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[00:07] <sebner> gn8 folks |
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[00:26] <Amaranth> wow, it is apparently not possible to get those Peace cigarettes outside of Japan |
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[00:27] <Amaranth> oh, persia isn't even here :P |
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[00:36] <Laney> nxvl: Nice photos! |
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[01:59] <nxvl> Laney: thnx |
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[02:05] <emgent> hey nxvl :) |
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[02:06] * ScottK is home. |
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[02:06] <emgent> heya ScottK :) |
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[02:06] <ScottK> Heya emgent. |
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[02:10] <pwnguin> anyone know the key combo to make a window more opaque in compiz? |
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[02:32] <vorian> hello! |
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[02:32] <vorian> I'm trying POD > man, and I keep getting manpage-has-bad-whatis-entry. |
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[02:33] <bddebian> Heya gang |
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[02:33] <bddebian> What-is should be in the form executable \- short description |
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[02:34] <vorian> hmm |
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[02:39] <vorian> retry :) |
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[02:39] <vorian> thanks |
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[02:49] <RAOF> Hm. Given a netboot usb stick, is it possible to get it to grab intrepid rather than hardy? |
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[04:04] <madrazr> Hi all, I want an help regarding debian source package management. |
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[04:04] <madrazr> I did an apt-get source package and made few changes to the package |
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[04:05] <madrazr> and also built the binary .debs using dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc |
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[04:05] <madrazr> some 3 or 4 weeks back. |
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[04:06] <madrazr> then I forgot to make the changlelog entries, but now I want to make those entries but unfortunately I dont remember where all the changes I made |
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[04:06] <madrazr> I also want to create patches of these changes now |
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[04:06] <madrazr> I am not getting how to do this, can some help? |
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[04:07] <madrazr> please |
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[04:07] <RAOF> madrazr: You're probably looking for the debdiff command; 'debdiff oldpackage.dsc newpackage.dsc' will give you a diff containing all the changes you made. |
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[04:07] <madrazr> RAOF: newpackage.dsc will be created? |
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[04:08] <madrazr> because I dont think created source debian packages |
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[04:08] <RAOF> madrazr: No; newpackage.dsc is the dsc file for your changed package. |
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[04:08] <madrazr> RAOF: ok wait will check out |
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[04:14] <madrazr> RAOF: there are no 2 .dsc files |
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[04:15] <RAOF> madrazr: You still have your modified source package, right? You can debuild -S to get an updated .dsc for the modified package, and grab the original, Ubuntu source with apt-get source. |
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[04:16] <madrazr> ok will try now |
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[04:17] <madrazr> RAOF: aren't there any alternatives? |
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[04:17] <madrazr> I just want the patch file nothing else |
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[04:17] <madrazr> meaning diff files |
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[04:17] <RAOF> It depends on what you've actually done; there almost certainly are alternatives. |
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[04:18] <RAOF> But debdiff will just be easier, and will get you all the changes you made. |
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[04:18] <madrazr> I will explain, I did apt-get source parted |
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[04:18] <madrazr> made some 3-4 changes |
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[04:19] <madrazr> I dont remember all the 4, I only remember 2 |
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[04:19] <madrazr> then I created .deb files |
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[04:19] <madrazr> only binaries |
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[04:19] <madrazr> now I want the diff files |
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[04:20] <madrazr> of what all changes I created |
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[04:20] <RAOF> Debdiff will do that for you. |
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[04:20] <RAOF> Oh. Do you still have your source changes around? |
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[04:21] <madrazr> yes |
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[04:21] <RAOF> Then debdiff. (If you didn't, what you ask would be impossible). |
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[04:22] <RAOF> You'll need a copy of the unmodified source (apt-get source will provide this) and of your changed source (which you have). Debdiff then basically automates the process of finding the diff. |
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[04:23] <madrazr> say now I will have 2 directories partedMod with my modified source and parted with original source |
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[04:23] <madrazr> by just running debdiff partedMod/parted.dsc parted/parted.dsc |
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[04:23] <madrazr> will I get the diff files? |
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[04:24] <RAOF> Yes; assuming partedMod/parted.dsc has been generated from your modified source package. |
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[04:24] <madrazr> I am not able to generate that |
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[04:24] <RAOF> Why not? |
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[04:24] <madrazr> because of some problem here |
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[04:25] <madrazr> debuild is not getting installed |
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[04:25] <madrazr> now |
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[04:25] <madrazr> infact some problem with synaptic |
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[04:25] <madrazr> I will try sometime later |
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[04:25] <RAOF> You can manually diff -Nur oldsourcedir newsourcedir if you want. That should also get you a diff. |
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[04:26] <madrazr> oh ok sooper I will try this then |
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[06:22] <artfwo> Hello! I'm having a problem with uscan reporting a newer version: current is 3.2 and it thinks 3.2RC6 is new. Anyone knows how to fix this? Thanks. |
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[09:11] <Hobbsee> siretart: +25 @ your mail! |
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[09:51] <siretart> Hobbsee: I sent two mails |
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[09:52] <Hobbsee> siretart: er, the one about the bugsquad missing the point. |
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[09:52] <siretart> aah, right |
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[09:52] <siretart> TBH, I don't see the point in the bugsquad having a seperate mailing list. I think they should discuss on ubuntu-motu or even ubuntu-devel |
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[09:54] <Hobbsee> yeah, true |
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[09:59] <andrew_sayers> Beyond OSI approval, does Ubuntu have any standard guidance about licensing? For example, could using the BSDL prompt a religious debate? |
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[10:04] <geser> andrew_sayers: if you mean the BSD license, it's common enough to got included in /usr/share/common-licenses, so feel free to use it |
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[10:05] <andrew_sayers> geser: ok thanks, I'll get back to pondering then :) |
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[10:11] <stephanecharette> noob here. Question: is this the right place to ask how/when certain packages are updated? |
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[10:11] <stephanecharette> I'm the release manager for GRAMPS (on SourceForge) |
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[10:12] <stephanecharette> Ubuntu 8.04 still lists GRAMPS at version 2.2, though we're now at version 3.0.1 |
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[10:12] <stephanecharette> I'm curious to know how the process works to get one of our newer versions listed |
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[10:13] <stephanecharette> same questions, but applied to Graphviz |
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[10:14] <stephanecharette> latest stable release is 2.18, but Ubuntu 8.04 lists Graphviz v2.16 |
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[10:15] <stephanecharette> hello? |
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[10:20] <stephanecharette> Anyone actually here? |
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[10:20] <RAOF> Yes? |
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[10:20] <stephanecharette> you missed my question just above your login |
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[10:20] <stephanecharette> here it is: |
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[10:21] <RAOF> The answer would be: hardy has been released, and will not be recieving new versions*. |
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[10:21] <stephanecharette> ok |
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[10:21] <stephanecharette> I see |
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[10:21] <RAOF> * Some exceptions being: (very unlikely) a bugfix release released as a Stable Release Upgrade. |
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[10:21] <stephanecharette> so new versions of packages have to wait until 8.10? |
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[10:21] <RAOF> * A backport from Intrepid. This requires the new version be *in* Intrepid. |
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[10:22] <stephanecharette> how do we make certain this time our new version is in Intrepid, since it didn't seem to have been picked up in 8.04? |
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[10:23] <ruiboon> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/gramps shows that 3.0.1-1 has been published in Intrepid |
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[10:24] <stephanecharette> thanks -- I see |
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[10:24] <stephanecharette> but https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/graphviz seems to indicate it is still 2.16 |
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[10:25] <stephanecharette> how do we get the 2.18 into Intrepid? |
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[10:27] <geser> usually new version come into intrepid from Debian unstable |
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[10:27] <geser> but in case of graphviz Ubuntu has some additional changes which needs to be merged |
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[10:28] <geser> I expect to see graphviz merged in the next few weeks as currently nearly every developer works on merges |
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[10:28] <stephanecharette> thank you for the answers |
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[11:22] * StevenK appears. |
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[11:22] <RAOF> Wooo! |
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[11:22] <StevenK> (In Singapore) |
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[11:22] <RAOF> Angels descend |
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[11:22] * StevenK waves to RAOF |
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[11:22] <RAOF> Howdie. |
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[11:23] <RAOF> So you're not interested in one or two uploads to debian then :) |
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[11:23] <StevenK> Wanna be in Sydney now. |
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[11:23] * persia cheers the infinite efficiency of packet-based networks as applied to air travel |
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[11:23] <StevenK> RAOF: Not really. :-) Beg me tomorrow? |
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[11:23] <RAOF> Anyone else you know on your flights? |
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[11:23] <StevenK> RAOF: TheMuso is sitting next to me. |
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[11:24] <StevenK> RAOF: lifeless is the flight too, apparently. |
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[11:24] <StevenK> is on, even |
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[11:24] <RAOF> And jml? |
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[11:24] <StevenK> Not sure about jml. |
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[11:24] <StevenK> persia: Where are you hiding? |
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[11:25] <persia> StevenK: I've been home for about 4 hours. |
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[11:25] <StevenK> persia: Lucky |
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[11:25] <persia> StevenK: No. Just northerly |
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[11:25] <StevenK> Heh |
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[11:25] <RAOF> Air travel sucks. We should tunnel through the earth. |
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[11:25] <StevenK> Haha |
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[11:25] <RAOF> Let gravity do the work for us! |
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[11:25] <persia> RAOF: it:s only 43 minutes point-to-point that way, but a little warm. |
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[11:26] <RAOF> I'm sure you could use an evacuated tube. |
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[11:26] <RAOF> I mean, we have science, right? |
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[11:26] <RAOF> It should work for us! |
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[11:26] <StevenK> I have another seven-eight hour flight. :-( |
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[11:26] <persia> RAOF: Sure. It's still warm. If you use an air-filled tube, it's slow, but even evacuated, there's still friction. We need better maglev first. |
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[11:27] <persia> On the other hand, 43 minutes PRA->SYD would make StevenK have to travel more often. |
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[11:27] <RAOF> Why friction? We just drill a _perfectly_ straight hole, right through the centre :) |
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[11:27] <RAOF> And hope that our scheduling is good enough to not cause collisions. |
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[11:28] <persia> RAOF: That limits your destinations, and then you get pressure heat from the earth. I believe the best path is cosecant, but I haven't looked at the math for those tunnels in years. |
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[11:28] <RAOF> Actually, you're almost certainly right. |
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[11:29] <persia> I also seem to remember there being some limitation with nearness. I think you have to pass over more than about 15 degrees of curvature for it to make sense. It may be that one has to travel to a different continent to reach short-hop destinations, with a transfer. |
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[11:30] <persia> Errr. "pass under" |
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[11:30] <RAOF> But at 43 minutes a pop, that's still cost-efficient. |
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[11:30] <StevenK> Air travel can still be used for short-hop destinations. |
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[11:30] <persia> Well, time-efficient. I don't really want to consider the municipal-works budget. |
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[11:31] <StevenK> Say, an hour from Sydney to Frankfurt, and then an hour from Frankfurt to Prague. Works for me. |
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[11:31] <persia> StevenK: I guess. Air-travel is about 1 hour per 10 degrees of curvature, right? |
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[11:31] <persia> (assuming no transfer) |
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[11:32] <persia> Also, technically, Sydney->Frankfurt might be hard. I think more than about 60 degrees gets under the mantle (but I haven't looked at the math in years) |
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[11:32] <StevenK> Which means Sydney -> Singapore first? |
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[11:33] <persia> Without looking at a globe, something like that. Sydney -> Singapore (under) for an hour, Singapore -> Frankfurt (under) for an hour, Frankfurt->Prague (over) for an hour. |
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[11:34] <StevenK> I daresay I don't want to know how much that would cost to build. |
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[11:35] <persia> Yep :) |
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[11:36] <persia> I suspect that if anyone does it, the first tunnel will be Eastern North America -> Western Europe, which doesn't really help the current use case, but might give an idea of cost. |
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[11:36] <persia> Might need an intermediate though, as I think that's about 90 degrees. |
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[11:38] <Iulian> Hey |
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[11:38] * StevenK tries to beat his spam down |
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[11:39] <jdavies> hey Iulian |
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[11:39] <Iulian> Hi jdavies |
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[11:40] <pochu> hi all! |
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[11:40] <Iulian> Heya pochu |
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[11:41] <pochu> yo Iulian |
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[11:41] <jdavies> this is insane.. |
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[11:41] <txwikinger> hi pochu |
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[11:41] <i4x> who called me? [i]nsane4oenix |
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[11:42] <pochu> hey txwikinger |
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[11:48] <tseliot> ¡hola pochu! |
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[11:53] <pochu> ciao tseliot :-) |
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[12:14] * StevenK waits for boarding. |
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[12:22] * Amaranth looks around |
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[12:23] <soren> StevenK: Where? |
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[12:24] <StevenK> soren: Singapore |
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[12:24] <StevenK> soren: Another seven-eight hours, and I'll actually be in the right city |
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[12:24] <soren> StevenK: Wow, that long? |
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[12:25] <soren> StevenK: Are/were you flying Singapore Airlines? |
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[12:26] <Hobbsee> soren: au is *far* away. |
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[12:30] <Amaranth> Hobbsee: au should move closer |
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[12:31] <soren> :) |
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[12:31] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: i wish! |
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[12:31] <Amaranth> even persia gets home faster |
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[12:31] <Amaranth> heck, even i made it home faster |
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[12:32] <persia> Amaranth: I'm equidistant from everywhere though. Travel to/from Australia has an extra hop near here (well, near enough). |
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[12:32] <Amaranth> hehe |
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[12:33] <Amaranth> btw, no one exports those cigarettes :( |
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[12:33] <Amaranth> persia: so you have to send me a crate or something ;) |
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[12:35] * persia pointedly fails to start an import/export business in controlled substances :P |
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[12:58] <yannick> Hi, I've an issue with pbuilder: "pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy: Depends: libx264-dev which is a virtual package." Can someone help me please? |
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[12:58] <persia> yannick: That typically means that you'll need to specify the one you want, of the form: libfoo5-dev | libfoo-dev. |
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[12:59] <yannick> persia, I don't see which one to pick up. There is no more devel for x264... |
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[13:00] <persia> yannick: In this specific case, I wonder which architecture you are using. From what I can tell, that package is not virtual for i386 or amd64, and doesn't even exist for anything else. |
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[13:00] <persia> Does your pbuilder have multiverse enabled? |
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[13:01] <yannick> COMPONENTS="main restricted universe multiverse" and my arch is amd64. And i do not see it as virtual too. |
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[13:04] <persia> Hmmm. No idea then. You might try with a local build (expecting a failure for missing dependencies) or sbuild to see if the issue is with pbuilder-satisfydepends or with your package. |
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[13:05] <yannick> ok, I'll try sbuild... |
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[13:27] <emgent> heya |
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[13:30] <sebner> emgent: huhu |
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[13:30] * emgent hugs sebner |
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[13:30] * sebner hugs emgent back =) |
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[13:30] <emgent> hahah |
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[13:32] <sebner> emgent: I think they ignore our questions :P |
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[13:35] <emgent> sebner: nah false. |
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[13:35] <emgent> sebner: we should wait. |
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[13:37] <sebner> emgent: bah :P |
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[13:38] <emgent> sebner: remember, we are a big family. |
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[13:38] <emgent> :) |
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[13:39] <sebner> emgent: partyyyyyyyyy!!!!! =) |
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[13:39] <emgent> gh |
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[14:06] <emgent> heya devfil :) |
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[14:06] <devfil> hi emgent! how are you? |
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[14:07] <emgent> all good :P |
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[14:07] <emgent> devfil: http://en.emanuele-gentili.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/img_2655.jpg |
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[14:08] <devfil> emgent: did you have fun in uds intrepid? |
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[14:08] <devfil> emgent: lol |
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[14:09] <emgent> sure, UDS rocks! |
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[14:09] <devfil> I'm happy for you, but stop smoking! |
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[14:11] <emgent> hahaha, nah |
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[14:15] <devfil> emgent: stop smoking and became motu! |
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[14:15] <devfil> s/became/become |
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[14:20] <emgent> uhm.. launchpad seems slow today.. |
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[15:14] <openexpo> moins (\sh here) |
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[15:20] <Laney> lo |
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[15:42] <porthose> how many times will intrepid be synced with debian before the debian import freeze? :) Once, twice? |
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[15:43] <pochu> many |
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[15:43] <emgent> heya pochu :) |
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[15:43] <pochu> emgent! :) |
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[15:44] <porthose> pochu: thx :) |
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[15:44] <devfil> hi pochu |
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[15:44] <pochu> hey hey devfil |
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[15:46] <geser> porthose: in theory it should happen more than once a week till DIF |
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[15:48] <devfil> pochu: I would to ask you about a wxwidgets2.8 bug |
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[15:49] <pochu> devfil: yup, what was it? |
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[15:50] <devfil> pochu: bug #196834. I think this isn't a bug. usr/share/doc/wx2.8-examples/examples/unpack_examples.sh if called to do the work. Maybe I should ask if you want unpack examples or no (.postinst file) |
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[15:50] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 196834 in wxwidgets2.8 "wxPython demo is not installing properly" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196834 |
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[15:54] <porthose> geser: cool thx :) then the new upstream release of my package just uploaded to debian will be imported soon (that make me soooo happy) |
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[15:57] <pochu> porthose: if there's no Ubuntu specific changes, yes |
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[15:58] <pochu> devfil: no, I don't think unpack_examples.sh should be called at postinst |
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[15:59] <pochu> devfil: you can call it in debian/rules after build, if you want |
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[15:59] <pochu> in the install target, I'd say |
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[15:59] <devfil> pochu: I think unpacking examples should be at users choice |
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[16:00] <devfil> in postinst I can ask if want to unpack or not and where script will unpack |
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[16:00] <pochu> so what would you do, asking a debconf question? |
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[16:00] <pochu> that's so weird... |
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[16:00] <pochu> are the examples too big? |
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[16:01] <devfil> pochu: I think 10 mb |
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[16:01] <devfil> but I'm not sure |
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[16:02] <devfil> pochu: however not debconf, a simply script. wxwidgets2.8 source is so big, if I will add debconf... |
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[16:04] <pochu> if you are going to ask a question, use debconf |
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[16:04] <pochu> but better not to add it |
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[16:04] <pochu> where are the examples, in the -doc package? |
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[16:04] <devfil> pochu: examples package |
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[16:05] <pochu> Maybe add a README saying how to unpack it |
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[16:05] <devfil> pochu: I think nobody will read it |
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[16:07] <pochu> I hate debconf questions, so I won't sponsor that :P |
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[16:07] <pochu> if you can think of a different solution... |
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[16:09] <devfil> pochu: I can try with only bash script to ask, I think this is better solution because I don't need to use debconf support |
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[16:09] <pochu> if you use that, then it's not translatable |
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[16:09] <devfil> Maybe a simple: Do you want to unpack examples [y]? is the best think |
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[16:09] <pochu> and it won't work with packagekit (if we ever have that in the archive) |
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[16:13] <devfil> pochu: it is only a phrase and who developer must know english I think |
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[16:13] <pochu> I think if you are going to ask a question, it should be with debconf and priority low |
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[16:25] <devfil> pochu: 1.9 mb (I've readed 10.9 -_-') |
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[16:25] <devfil> pochu: however alredy exists a README for unpack_examples |
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[16:25] <devfil> pochu: Some of the files have been compressed in accordance with Debian policy |
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[16:25] <devfil> regarding documentatio |
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[16:25] <devfil> n |
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[16:31] <devfil> pochu: to unpack them I can use dh_extrac... (I don't remember the exactly name of the tag) |
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[16:33] <Laney> devfil: When do they get compressed? In the orig.tar.gz? |
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[16:33] <devfil> Lanely: nono, in debian/rules |
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[16:33] <Laney> Then there's no point compressing and uncompressing |
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[16:34] <Laney> If it's dh_compress you can pass -X to exclude some files |
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[16:35] <devfil> Laney: I don't need to exclude files, just unpack them in the same dir |
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[16:40] <devfil> done, now it's time to build it |
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[17:03] <yannick> persia, solved: pbuilder was not using multiverse. I still don't know why it doesn't take my config file in account, but adding universe at the command line is working :) thx for your help. |
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[17:33] <ryanakca> Is it possible to merge something from Debian NEW? |
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[17:35] <azeem> I don't think so |
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[17:43] <geser> ryanakca: the first problem is Debian NEW isn't public |
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[17:46] * jdavies WTHs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14564/ |
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[17:46] <geser> bind mount? |
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[17:47] <jdavies> I just used the makechroot script here (http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/scripts/) to make a hardy chroot and I got that |
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[17:48] <geser> yes, bind mounts |
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[17:48] <jdavies> found the problem |
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[17:49] <geser> umount /home, /tmp, /proc/ and /sys from the chroot |
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[17:49] <geser> before removing it |
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[17:49] <jdavies> but too late.. |
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[17:50] <jdavies> geser: ah, cheers, that solved it |
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[17:50] * slytherin wonders how hard it is to give command 'sudo pbuilder create' |
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[17:55] <jdavies> geser: hmm, should I take out the bind mount parts of the script for next time? |
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[18:00] <slytherin> jdavies: bindmounts mounts the directories you specify inside the chroot. For example I have iso image mounted locally which I can use as repository inside chroot. |
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[18:01] <jdavies> slytherin: I would like a clean chroot. Nothing in but the base stuff installed |
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[18:03] <slytherin> jdavies: so you don't want bindmount. |
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[18:04] <jdavies> OK, *removes* |
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[18:09] <leleobhz> someone can tellme what can i do when a program are provided as tar.gz and are not in format program-version.tar.gz (and the uncompressed file too) |
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[18:09] <leleobhz> mind note: in packaging |
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[18:10] <geser> jdavies: you might need things like /proc or /sys also inside a clean chroot |
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[18:10] <leleobhz> (and the program uses jam as constructor) |
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[18:10] <jdavies> geser: hm, true |
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[18:11] <geser> jdavies: and if you want to test some GUI apps from the chroot then /home and /tmp are useful too |
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[18:14] <slytherin> leleobhz: what program is that? |
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[18:15] <leleobhz> slytherin: handbrake.fr |
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[18:16] <leleobhz> slytherin: i have another problem too... it "Jamfile" downloads all dependencies again |
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[18:16] <slytherin> leleobhz: I think handbrake is already packaged, I might be wrong, Make sure you check revu |
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[18:16] <leleobhz> slytherin: really? |
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[18:16] <leleobhz> slytherin: revu? |
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[18:17] <Laney> leleobhz: http://revu.tauware.de |
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[18:18] <Laney> 'tis already being worked on by someone |
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[18:18] <leleobhz> Laney: hmm nice |
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[18:19] <leleobhz> Laney: and how can i help the package creation on revu? |
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[18:20] <Laney> leleobhz: Well one person usually takes care of it, but you can mail the packager and see if he would like your help |
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[18:21] <slytherin> leleobhz: revu is used for review of packages. A package needs to be advocated by 2 MOTUs before it gets accepted. You will need dput to upload top revu and your publick key will need to be in revu keyring |
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[18:22] <leleobhz> slytherin: well, i have the conduct code signed on launchpad and all my keys available |
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[18:23] <leleobhz> and now joined to revu uploaders user group |
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[18:23] <slytherin> leleobhz: join the revu-uploaders team and ask here for keyring to be synced |
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[18:23] <RainCT> syncing... |
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[18:23] <RainCT> ;) |
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[18:24] <leleobhz> slytherin: suposing my package get accepted, ill get their manteiner on ubuntu? |
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[18:24] <leleobhz> s/get their/be the/g |
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[18:25] <RainCT> leleobhz: not "officially" like in Debian, but yes |
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[18:25] <leleobhz> RainCT: well, i dont care to much this... |
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[18:26] <leleobhz> debian is too "dummy"cratic |
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[18:26] <leleobhz> RainCT: im care with ubuntu status |
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[18:27] * leleobhz very interested because i mantain some packages but outside ubuntu... so may be a chance to get they in |
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[18:42] <leleobhz> question: debian linda exists on ubuntu? |
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[18:42] <Laney> leleobhz: linda doesn't exist any more |
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[18:43] <leleobhz> Laney: so still the process to use only lintian? |
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[18:43] <Laney> leleobhz: Yeah |
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[18:43] <Laney> (AFAIK, IANAMOTU ;) |
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[18:43] <leleobhz> ? |
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[18:45] <Laney> I'm not a MOTU |
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[18:45] <Laney> But I gather that lintian is all that's used |
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[18:45] <leleobhz> oh... |
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[18:45] <leleobhz> ok |
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[18:46] <slytherin> Right. lintian is the only tool available. The development of linda has stopped totally. |
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[18:46] <ryanakca> geser: ok, well, if I have a dsc of what was uploaded to Debian NEW? (I merged some Kubuntu fixes into Debian, and now I'm looking to merge those changes back into Kubuntu) |
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[18:47] <leleobhz> talking about linda.... someone know why this error: |
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[18:47] <leleobhz> leleobhz@zorg:~/TRABALHO/DEVELOPMENT/COMPILACOES/UBUNTU/pacotes/praat-hardy$ lintian praat_5.0.23-1_i386.changes |
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[18:47] <leleobhz> E: praat_5.0.23-1_i386.changes: bad-distribution-in-changes-file hardy |
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[18:47] <leleobhz> E: praat_5.0.23-1.tar.gz does not exist, exiting |
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[18:47] <Laney> leleobhz: Give the -i option to lintian to get more information |
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[18:48] <leleobhz> N: You've specified an unknown target distribution for your upload in the |
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[18:48] <leleobhz> N: debian/changelog file. |
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[18:48] <geser> ryanakca: technically it would then be a sync from somewhere else but if it doesn't hurry, I'd wait till it's in Debian unstable |
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[18:48] <leleobhz> Laney: but im using hardy and cowbuilder |
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[18:49] <slytherin> leleobhz: 1st error because you are not using lintian from hardy-backports. Also make sure you have installed debootstrap from hardy-backports. |
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[18:51] <ryanakca> geser: nah, there are still some Kubuntu specific changes / configuration options to be merged, but ok. I do wish their archive maintainers would get through their list... some of them are 1 month old or more |
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[18:51] <leleobhz> slytherin: debootstrap isnt installed |
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[18:51] <slytherin> leleobhz: 2nd error because either you don't have a .orig.gz file or the directory name is of the form softwarename-upstream_version-debian_revision instead of just softwarename-upstream_version |
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[18:52] <leleobhz> slytherin: .orig exists |
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[18:52] <slytherin> geser: How can I add copyright symbol to debian/copyright file? |
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[18:52] <leleobhz> the original tar.gz isnt available because the original source is a .zip |
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[18:52] <leleobhz> so i need to uncompress it and recompres in debian formal |
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[18:52] <leleobhz> t |
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[18:52] * leleobhz have a script to do this |
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[18:53] <sharms> if I want to install debugging symbols for a program in hardy, do I still just add pitti's repository or is there a better method |
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[18:53] <slytherin> sharms: see if there is already a -dbg package in repository? |
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[18:53] <leleobhz> slytherin: ii lintian 1.23.48~hardy1 Debian package checker |
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[18:54] <sharms> slytherin - I am looking for w3m, don't see it |
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[18:54] <slytherin> sharms: then use pitti's repository |
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[18:54] <sharms> deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/ddebs hardy main universe -- Apt gets a 301 moved permanently |
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[18:56] <sharms> ah nvm its down ddebs.ubuntu.com |
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[19:13] <geser> slytherin: Unicode, U+00A9 © |
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[19:14] <slytherin> geser: How do I write that in vim? And is it necessary to have 'copyright' or 'registered' symbols? |
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[19:16] <Laney> slytherin: ctrl-shift-u + type 00a9 |
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[19:16] <slytherin> Laney: thanks |
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[19:16] <geser> slytherin: iirc the copyright symbol is important |
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[19:17] <geser> at least in the U.S. copyright law if I remember some discussions correctly |
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[19:17] <slytherin> Laney: Not working :-( |
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[19:17] <Laney> slytherin: Really? What happens? |
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[19:18] <slytherin> Laney: Nothing, it just adds blank space |
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[19:18] <Laney> You get the underlined 'u' and can type '00a9'? |
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[19:18] <Laney> Then hit space after that |
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[19:20] <slytherin> Laney: I got underlines u, I typed 00a9 but hit enter |
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[19:20] <slytherin> Laney: Done, thanks. :-) |
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[19:20] <Laney> slytherin: That should work too, weird. Maybe it's your font? |
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[19:20] <Laney> slytherin: Ah :) |
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[19:21] <slytherin> Laney: Space works, enter doesn't. What does it have to do with font? |
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[19:23] <Laney> slytherin: No, nothing. If it wasn't coming up at all then it might be your font. |
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[19:23] <Laney> slytherin: But enter and space both work for me, *shrug* |
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[19:27] <slytherin> geser: Please let me know if this debian/copyright is clear enough - http://paste.ubuntu.com/14586/ I will be back in 10-15 minutes. |
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[19:27] <geser> slytherin: I add unicode chars usually with: when in Insert mode: ctrl+v u00a9 and get directly a copyright symbol |
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[19:31] <geser> slytherin: the mentioning of the licences is good, but I remember seeing copyright for the W3C from some other years too (check with "rgrep Copyright ." in the source dir) |
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[19:35] <slytherin> geser: I saw copyright mentioned as 1994-2002. Should I make it that way? |
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[19:39] <geser> slytherin: yes |
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[19:39] <slytherin> geser: Ok. Any other changes? |
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[19:52] <geser> slytherin: no |
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[19:55] <slytherin> geser: Done. Uploaded. Thanks for guidance. :-) |
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[19:57] <slytherin> geser: Going to bed. See you later. |
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[20:11] <emgent> geser: hey |
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[20:14] <geser> emgent: Hi |
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[20:16] <emgent> sebner: fix your internet connection |
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[20:17] <sebner> emgent: If I would know how -.- |
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[20:23] <emgent> sebner: try with "halt" :) |
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[21:17] <sebner> emgent: was he already online? ^^ |
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[21:17] <emgent> ye |
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[21:17] <sebner> emgent: uhh, where can I find him? |
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[21:18] <emgent> #canonical-sysadmin |
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[21:18] <sebner> ember: but he is afk :\ |
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[21:19] <emgent> i know. |
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[21:19] <sebner> since 77 hours xD |
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[21:44] <norsetto> howdy all (sebner included) |
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[21:44] <geser> Hi norsetto |
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[21:44] <sebner> huhu norsetto. Thanks for that :D |
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[21:45] <norsetto> hi geser, just seen bug 234538 |
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[21:45] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 234538 in findlib "[intrepid] Rebuild for ocaml 3.10.1 -> 3.10.2 transition" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/234538 |
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[21:45] <emgent> hahaha |
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[21:45] <sebner> emgent: hmm? |
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[21:46] <norsetto> geser: there is a bunch of stuff in bug 234581 which also deals with this transition, for the time being they are all waiting for u-m-s to sponsor your bug ... |
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[21:46] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 234581 in ulex "Cduce Depends On Non-Existant Package `ocaml-nox-3.10.0`" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/234581 |
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[21:47] <geser> norsetto: I've uploaded those OCaml rebuild yesterday which don't need ocaml-findlib |
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[21:48] <geser> I'll look at the other ones once findlib got rebuild |
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[21:49] <norsetto> geser: ok, if you may want to cover also those of bug 234581 please mark them invalid or reassign them to you. There is also a ftbfs which I'm investigating right now |
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[21:49] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 234581 in ulex "Cduce Depends On Non-Existant Package `ocaml-nox-3.10.0`" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/234581 |
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[21:51] <norsetto> geser: there is something funny going on with the debian archive, seems like packages.gz are not being regenerated? |
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[21:53] <geser> norsetto: if you mean the ftbfs from bug #234846, that's normal during a transition if not all packages are rebuild in the right order |
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[21:53] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 234846 in ocamlnet "ocamlnet (2.2.9-2) FTBFS" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/234846 |
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[21:53] <geser> see also the current perl 5.10 transition |
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[21:54] <norsetto> geser: I have all packages built locally, it really seems a problem with rpclocal.c |
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[21:54] <geser> ah |
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[21:57] <geser> norsetto: what problem do you have with the debian archive? ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz was last modified today |
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[21:57] <norsetto> geser: I see several packages are not reported as updated, and they are not autosynced |
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[21:58] <geser> is the autosync actually a cronjob? |
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[21:59] <norsetto> geser: I thought it was just a problem with packages.debian.org, but then why are we not autosyncing? Some packages are really old |
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[22:02] <geser> is the autosync already on? |
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[22:02] <geser> I didn't have to wait for a build half a week till now |
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[22:03] <norsetto> geser: AFAIK we are autosyncing full speed until DIF, don't know how frequently though |
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[22:05] <geser> for hardy the buildds were so queue during the first weeks with building autosynced packages that you needed to wait half a week for a build of a package you uploaded |
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[22:07] <norsetto> geser: that could be it then, and then its just a problem with packages.debian.org, makes sense |
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[22:17] <ajmitch> hi |
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[22:18] * StevenK waves, finally back in the right country. |
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[22:18] <StevenK> (And home, thank $DEITY) |
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[22:19] <ajmitch> after how many hours? |
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[22:19] <StevenK> Many. Left the hotel at Prague at 2pm, Saturday, +2 |
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[22:23] <ajmitch> fun |
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[22:24] <sebner> gn8 folks |
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[22:35] <RAOF> StevenK: Welcome home. |
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[22:35] <StevenK> RAOF: Thanks! |
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[22:37] <emgent> :) |
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[23:06] <norsetto> huats: really touch and go eh? :-) |
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[23:12] <norsetto> anyone know who is the leader for ubuntu-mobile? |
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[23:14] <StevenK> norsetto: Why do you ask? |
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[23:15] <norsetto> StevenK: err, because I want to know? |
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[23:16] <StevenK> norsetto: Nominally, David Mandala, davidm on Launchpad |
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[23:16] <norsetto> StevenK: ok, but he wasn't at UDS (or I don't remember him)? emgent wants to interview him for an italian linux journal |
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[23:17] <StevenK> norsetto: David was at both FOSSCamp and UDS. |
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[23:17] <emgent> heya StevenK |
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[23:17] * StevenK waves |
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[23:17] <norsetto> StevenK: ok thx ... you recovered from the party :-) ? |
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[23:18] <StevenK> Funny you should mention that, I was out with David helping him shop instead of at the party. |
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[23:18] <norsetto> StevenK: ah! |
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[23:39] <norsetto> g'night all |
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