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[01:10] * stdin gives up and heads to bed |
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[02:05] <nixternal> KDE 4 stalls at 2.6MB downloaded during downloading...now that is annoying... |
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[02:05] <nixternal> apachelogger_: fix that ^^ :p |
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[02:05] * nixternal goes and watches a movie |
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[02:07] <apachelogger_> lol |
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[02:07] <apachelogger_> nixternal: that bug appears totally random and is around for ever |
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[02:07] <apachelogger_> hm |
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[02:07] <apachelogger_> cool |
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[02:07] <apachelogger_> I broke kdm again |
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[02:09] <apachelogger_> woohoo |
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[02:09] <apachelogger_> that ain't logical |
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[02:09] <apachelogger_> stuff breaks without touching it |
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[02:09] <apachelogger_> lovely |
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[02:09] * apachelogger_ goes to bad |
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[02:09] <apachelogger_> ah |
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[02:10] <apachelogger_> first some karma for kdm |
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[02:10] <apachelogger_> nini |
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[02:10] <Nightrose> nini apachelogger_ |
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[02:10] <Nightrose> :) |
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[02:31] * claydoh uploaded his first package to his ppa |
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[02:31] * claydoh crosses fingers.... |
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[03:13] <raw> Hi, where's the custom session in kdm gone? |
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[09:38] <mornfall> Ghaa! |
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[10:01] <mornfall> Hi, anyone willing to do a little testing for me? : - ). |
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[10:06] <emonkey> -v |
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[10:07] <mornfall> I am preparing packages for adept 3.0~alpha1. But there are some issues... |
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[10:07] <mornfall> First, I am on debian sid, so they may need to be rebuilt for (k)ubuntu. |
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[10:08] <mornfall> Second, they are not built yet, so give me a few minutes. |
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[10:15] <Lure> mornfall: you can upload them to ppa |
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[10:15] <mornfall> No idea what ppa is. |
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[10:15] <emonkey> mornfall, Unfortunately I've to go in a few minutes ... |
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[10:16] <mornfall> And then, I have no way to build on (k)ubuntu myself. |
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[10:16] <mornfall> Maybe if someone is willing to rebuild it and upload there, that would be good. |
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[10:16] <Lure> Your personal package archive: if you have LP account, you have PPA too and can easily build for any version of ubuntu |
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[10:17] <emonkey> PPA is something like the suse build service |
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[10:17] <Lure> mornfall: I can also upload to my ppa if you want |
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[10:17] <mornfall> Interesting. |
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[10:17] <mornfall> Give me a minute. |
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[10:17] <Lure> will be back in cca 1 hour or so (need to get to playground with may daughter) |
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[10:18] <Lure> mornfall: it is really easy to enable and use: https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart |
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[10:20] <mornfall> Let me see. |
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[10:38] <mornfall> http://anna.fi.muni.cz/~xrockai/adept-3-deb/ |
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[10:38] <mornfall> Going to try the PPA thingy. |
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[10:56] <mornfall> Anyone, what suite should these go to? I have kdelibs5-dev in builddepends. |
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[11:44] <Lure> mornfall: did you manage to do it with ppa? |
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[11:44] <mornfall> Lure: Not yet, I just tried to upload again. |
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[11:44] <mornfall> The first got rejected because they have unstable in changelog. |
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[11:44] <Lure> mornfall: yep, just put hardy |
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[11:48] <mornfall> PPA uploads must be signed by an 'ubuntero'. |
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[11:48] <mornfall> (Rejected therefore.) |
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[11:48] <Lure> mornfall: yep, you need to sign Ubuntu Code of Conduct |
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[11:48] <mornfall> Ergh. |
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[11:48] <Lure> mornfall: will try to upload to my ppa |
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[11:49] <Lure> mornfall: so libept and adept3.0? |
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[11:49] <mornfall> Lure: All that's in that url -- they build-depend in a chain. |
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[11:50] <mornfall> Lure: Also, if apt-xapian-index (from Debian) is not in ubuntu, it is required for runtime. |
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[11:55] * Sime has managed to apply the "show apps from current desktop only in the taskbar" feature from KDE's SVN to 4.0.0, and it works. |
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[11:56] <Lure> mornfall: apt-xapian-index is version 0.4 in hardy, so probably ok |
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[11:56] <mornfall> Great. |
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[11:56] <Lure> Sime: please send patch to apachelogger__... (would like to have this even if break i18n freeze) |
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[11:56] <mornfall> The package also now got ACCEPTed. |
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[11:57] <Sime> Lure: what is his address? |
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[11:57] <Lure> Sime: apachelogger@u.c |
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[11:58] <Lure> Sime: he does most of kde4 package uploads currently |
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[11:58] <mornfall> Lure: How long does it ~ take for the build to start? |
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[11:58] <jpatrick> mornfall: less than an hour |
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[12:01] <mornfall> Hm, hour. |
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[12:03] <Lure> mornfall: https://launchpad.net/+builds - seems buildd for ppa are not under load, so it should be sooner (just to be picked up by cron scripts) |
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[12:03] <mornfall> Well, they still need to go through 3 rounds. |
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[12:04] <mornfall> If they work at all. |
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[12:04] <mornfall> Anyhow, if someone is willing to test locally, grab from http://anna.fi.muni.cz/~xrockai/adept-3-deb/. Off to chop wood. |
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[12:04] <mornfall> Laters. |
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[12:04] <Lure> mornfall: btw, all three accepted to my ppa too, so will see who will be faster (if mine build at all as I am beyond space limit) ;-) |
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[12:40] <mornfall> Hm, nothing new. And no more wood. |
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[13:25] <danimo> does nspluginviewer embedding work for anyone in KDE 4? |
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[13:29] <mornfall> Lure: Can you try installing adept from deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/me-mornfall/ubuntu hardy main ? Or anyone... |
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[13:30] <mornfall> I am off for a walk now, but would be great if someone tried them out : - ). See the notes at https://launchpad.net/~me-mornfall/+archive as well. |
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[13:30] <mornfall> Laters |
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[13:31] <smarter> danimo: doesn't work for me |
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[13:42] <nixternal> danimo: doesn't work for me, it pops up little windows for nspluginviewer |
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[13:45] <jpatrick> danimo: it works sometimes for me |
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[13:45] <smarter> same as nixternal |
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[13:45] <smarter> i use r48 I think |
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[14:27] <apachelogger__> Sime: is the implimentation complete yet? |
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[14:27] <apachelogger__> last I checked it was only at a very basic state |
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[14:32] <Sime> apachelogger__: how complete does it need to be? I works here, although a little bit slow. |
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[14:38] <apachelogger__> bah, I just broke amarok's toolbar graphic -.- |
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[14:39] <Sime> apachelogger__: I can later test how fast it works on KDE svn trunk. Maybe I missed a patch. |
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[14:41] <apachelogger__> seems to be fairly useable... http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=762830 fixes all the issues I had |
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[14:41] <apachelogger__> Sime: well, it ain't worth anything if it slows everything down even more |
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[14:41] <apachelogger__> plasma is really slow enough alrady IMO :P |
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[14:42] <Sime> apachelogger__: the taskbar is slow to update when changing desktops. (~1 sec). The rest is the same. |
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[14:42] <apachelogger__> 1 sec? Oo |
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[14:42] <apachelogger__> omg |
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[14:42] <apachelogger__> Sime: maybe it depends on some of the speed improvements done earlier |
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[14:43] * apachelogger__ just wonders... when aaron finds out... ohhhh, I don't wanna clean up afterwards ;-) |
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[14:45] <apachelogger__> Sime: I'm a bit worried about the patch size |
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[14:45] <apachelogger__> you see, we have to maintain the patch until 4.1 gets out... which is quite some time |
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[14:45] <apachelogger__> maybe we can cut it down a bit |
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[14:48] <Sime> apachelogger__: merge them down into one and try again. I think there is a bit of redudancy. |
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[14:50] <apachelogger__> woohoo :D |
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[14:51] <Sime> is that a good woohoo? |
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[14:51] <apachelogger__> Sime: that is a sarcastic woohoo ;-) |
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[14:52] <apachelogger__> you know, I'm pretty much all reversed, like I say cool when something sux, or that I first implement code, then wrap it in a function, then make that function an private object and then wrap that in a class ;-) |
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[14:57] <apachelogger__> lol |
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[14:57] <apachelogger__> I was running my svn session all the time |
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[14:57] <apachelogger__> that explains a lot :D |
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[14:57] * apachelogger__ kicks kdm again |
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[14:59] <apachelogger__> !info kde4 hardy |
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[14:59] <ubotu> kde4 (source: meta-kde4): the K Desktop Environment version 4 official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2 (hardy), package size 2 kB, installed size 36 kB |
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[14:59] <Lure> mornfall: libept did not build http://launchpadlibrarian.net/11450355/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.libept_0.5.13.ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz |
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[15:00] <apachelogger__> stdin_: where should we place bug 184544 ? it's not really a kdebase bug, since apt is 3rd party |
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[15:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 184544 in kdebase-kde4 "apt kio-slave missing in konqueror-kde4" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184544 |
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[15:01] <Lure> Hobbsee: do you understand what is wrong with kdepim upload? |
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[15:02] <Hobbsee> Lure: yeah |
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[15:02] <Hobbsee> i'm fixing it |
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[15:02] <smarter> I put some ideas for k-d-s-kde4 and k-d-kde4 in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Todo |
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[15:02] <Lure> Hobbsee: -sd instead od -sa? |
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[15:02] <Hobbsee> yeah |
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[15:03] <Lure> Hobbsee: I know the feeling ;-) |
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[15:03] <Jucato> apachelogger__: change the package affected to kio-apt? |
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[15:03] <Lure> smarter: great, please add this to topic for next meeting (to review it) |
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[15:03] <smarter> Lure: ok |
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[15:11] <apachelogger__> Lure: that meeting is gonna take 5 hours |
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[15:11] <apachelogger__> smarter: I don't get 'kickoff kubuntu branding here instead of patching kdebase-workspace' |
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[15:11] <Lure> apachelogger__: does not need to if somebody proposes action items |
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[15:12] <Lure> apachelogger__: would be nice if patch would not include kubuntu stuff, but read it from config file |
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[15:13] <smarter> Lure said it for me ;) |
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[15:13] <Lure> apachelogger__: should patch might be accepted upstream for 4.0.x |
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[15:14] <Jucato> "Put kickoff kubuntu branding in k-d-s instead of patching kdebase-workspace" |
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[15:14] <Lure> s/should/such/ |
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[15:14] <apachelogger__> Lure: it's a suse patch, so they might have to get it upstream |
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[15:15] <Jucato> smarter: "logo at the top right of konqueror" the animated one? |
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[15:15] <smarter> Jucato: yes |
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[15:15] <Jucato> ah the throbber |
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[15:15] <Lure> apachelogger__: probably, it was agreed to some extend also on release-party: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-release-team&m=120078652611862&w=2 |
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[15:15] <smarter> like in konqueror3 |
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[15:16] <Jucato> yeah, it's called a throbber... for a second there you had me thinking of another icon :) |
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[15:31] * ryanakca weeps at not receiving any mockups |
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[15:31] * ryanakca considers spamming the planet again |
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[15:32] <emonkey-t> ryanakca, still no answer? |
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[15:32] <ryanakca> emonkey-t: none :S |
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[15:32] <emonkey-t> :/ |
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[15:32] <ryanakca> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/WebsiteMockups |
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[15:33] <ryanakca> There's only the default template |
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[15:33] <ryanakca> Oh well, I'm betting on UWN to give it some publicity |
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[15:33] <emonkey-t> jep |
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[15:37] <smarter> why is there no announce on kubuntu.org ? |
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[15:37] <smarter> (for the contest) |
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[15:40] <ryanakca> smarter: because nobody has gotten around to it / webmaster doesn't think it ought to go on it? |
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[15:40] * ryanakca shrugs |
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[15:44] <smarter> IMHO, people browsing on kubuntu.org are the most interested in a new website |
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[15:55] <mornfall> Lure: It seems to have passed in mine. |
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[15:57] <Lure> mornfall: not really, failed log was from your ppa |
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[15:57] <mornfall> Ah. Hm. |
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[15:57] <mornfall> Sorry : - ). |
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[15:57] <mornfall> I just seen 3 binary, ok and walked away... |
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[15:57] <Lure> mornfall: https://launchpad.net/~me-mornfall/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all |
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[15:58] <mornfall> Lure: Ah, right, failed tests (and I also know why). Hmh. |
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[16:20] <Sime> funny, the media popup from KDE 3 appears in KDE 4 sessions if you are running a KDE 3 application. Logical but annoying. |
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[17:47] <apachelogger_> oh I hate it when I lose the connection |
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[17:49] <Tm_T> oh I don't run my irc client in home |
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[17:49] <Tm_T> ;) |
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[17:53] <jpatrick> apachelogger_: get a server and screen irssi from there |
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[17:54] * Jucato was just pointed to the joys of irc bouncers... :) |
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[17:54] <Jucato> of course I still have to run the bouncer @ home... I don't think servers allow them |
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[17:56] <apachelogger_> irssi sux |
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[17:56] <apachelogger_> quassel ftw! |
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[17:56] <apachelogger_> anyway, I have no server, so :P |
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[17:57] <smarter> apachelogger_: quassel has been released? |
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[17:57] <apachelogger_> nope |
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[17:57] <apachelogger_> but I actually have a snapshot pocket :P |
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[17:57] <Jucato> hahah |
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[17:58] <apachelogger_> <-- probably has more packages for yet-unreleased software, than for released one |
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[17:58] <nixternal> booyahkah |
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[17:58] <nixternal> KDE 4 Gutsy LiveCD has no sound |
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[17:59] <apachelogger_> woohoo |
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[17:59] <apachelogger_> omg |
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[17:59] <apachelogger_> ! |
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[17:59] <apachelogger_> so amarok is useless |
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[17:59] <apachelogger_> that ain't nice -.- |
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[18:00] <Lure> apachelogger_: btw, any progress on kdm-kde4 front? |
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[18:01] <apachelogger_> Lure: nope, it breaks on build for me, even though I don't touch the bit where it breaks |
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[18:01] <apachelogger_> I'm thinking on redoing the patches from scratch |
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[18:02] <Lure> apachelogger_: I am now on hardy packages, so might have time to look into it tonight |
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[18:02] <apachelogger_> we should do this for the default configs at least |
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[18:02] <apachelogger_> Lure: well, it works so far |
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[18:02] <apachelogger_> it just look like shit |
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[18:02] <apachelogger_> and has some weird bugs |
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[18:02] <apachelogger_> like it messes with encoding for some reason |
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[18:02] <Lure> apachelogger_: encoding? like i18n? |
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[18:03] <apachelogger_> yes |
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[18:03] <apachelogger_> like umlauts and accents are b0rked in translations |
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[18:03] <apachelogger_> I think even in dolphin |
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[18:04] <Lure> apachelogger_: ok, will try slovenian version of kde4 then |
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[18:04] <apachelogger_> k |
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[18:12] <blizzzek> re |
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[18:50] <lucky_lucas> Hi, is there any chance to have a very preview of the simon speech to text in kubuntu ? It's written in qt4 |
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[18:52] <lucky_lucas> www-simon-lstens.org |
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[18:52] <lucky_lucas> www.simon-listens.org |
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[19:01] <Lure> apachelogger_: is kde4 translated for you at all? my slovenian install only has .desktop file translations, the rest is in english |
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[19:02] <smarter> french translation works fine |
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[19:04] <Lure> smarter: interesting. you using just hardy packages? |
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[19:04] <Lure> smarter: do you have kubuntu/kde3 also installed? |
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[19:04] <smarter> Lure: nop, I'm on gutsy with ppa packages |
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[19:04] <smarter> Lure: yes |
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[19:05] <Lure> smarter: ok, I have installed hardy-server + kde4 meta package |
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[19:05] <Lure> it might be that something is missing (depends) |
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[19:06] <Lure> smarter: what does "env |
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[19:06] <Lure> "env | grep LANG" return |
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[19:06] <Lure> smarter: if you run in Konsole |
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[19:06] <smarter> LANGUAGE=fr_FR:fr:en_GB:en LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 |
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[19:07] <Lure> ok, that is the problem |
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[19:07] <Lure> my LANGUAGE is empty |
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[19:08] <smarter> LANGUAGE is set in /etc/environment here |
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[19:10] <Lure> smarter: yep, you have probably set it with kde3 or during install |
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[19:11] <smarter> it was during install I think |
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[19:11] <Lure> smarter: my system was installed in english (server install) |
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[19:14] <Lure> apachelogger_: btw, kdm takes ages to start here (like 3-5 minutes after boot, for the time I only see text console) |
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[19:16] <jpatrick> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2008-January/025086.html |
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[19:16] * Lure purges and installs again |
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[19:17] <jpatrick> wth?^^^^^ |
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[19:17] <Lure> jpatrick: talking about new kde4 package? ;-) |
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[19:19] <jpatrick> Lure: in a passive sort of way |
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[19:19] <Lure> apachelogger_: ok, that cured it - now it starts much faster |
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[19:22] <Lure> stdin: around? |
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[19:23] <stdin> Lure: for a little while |
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[19:23] <apachelogger_> cool :P |
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[19:24] <Lure> stdin, apachelogger_: where do we want kdm-kde4 config: in /etc/kde4 or in /usr/lib/kde4/etc/kde4 ? |
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[19:25] <Lure> there is currently mismatch between config files and /etc/init.d/kdm-kde4 script |
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[19:25] <apachelogger_> Lure: I've fixed it already |
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[19:25] <apachelogger_> goes in usr/lib as everything |
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[19:25] <Lure> apachelogger_: ok, good |
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[19:26] * Lure fixes it locally |
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[19:26] <apachelogger_> Lure: you better work somewhere else for now ;-) |
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[19:26] <apachelogger_> I fixed a lot crap in that regard |
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[19:26] <apachelogger_> I just need to get it compile properly so I can upload |
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[19:26] <Lure> apachelogger_: did you also change DAEMON= to point to actual binary in /usr/lib/kde4/...? |
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[19:27] <apachelogger_> yep |
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[19:27] <Lure> apachelogger_: ok, great |
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[21:00] <jpatrick> apachelogger_: "dragonplayer has moved to kdemultimedia" |
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[21:00] <apachelogger_> I no |
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[21:00] <jpatrick> :p |
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[21:01] <apachelogger_> jpatrick: dude, I'm working with it's dev everyday :P |
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[21:01] <jpatrick> apachelogger_: and I'm working with you everyday :p |
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[21:01] <apachelogger_> work is overrated anyway |
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[21:02] <jpatrick> hi mhb |
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[21:02] <mhb> good evening |
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[21:05] <ryanakca> mhb: no mockups :( |
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[21:05] * ryanakca looks for something to do and notices the ToDo link in the topic |
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[21:08] <jpatrick> yay |
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[21:08] <jpatrick> ryanakca: I'll poke my contacts in kubuntu-es, see if they can come up with anything |
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[21:08] <ryanakca> jpatrick: thanks :D |
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[21:09] * ryanakca wonders if he should make the kubuntu-desktop-kde4 metapackage |
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[21:09] <jpatrick> ryanakca: don't mention it |
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[21:09] <ryanakca> jpatrick: oh, btw, remember that promo material I translated a few months ago? |
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[21:10] <ryanakca> Well... my teacher finally gave it back corrected on Thursday :) |
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[21:10] <jpatrick> ryanakca: oh, yeah, I found a French version from ages ago laying around on the wiki from the old Kubuntu Marketing pages |
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[21:11] <ryanakca> lol |
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[21:12] <jpatrick> but you might want to push your updated one to the (hardly-used) branch |
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[21:12] <ryanakca> hmm... since I've volunteered myself for making the kubuntu-desktop-kde4 , should it be provided by kubuntu-meta, or a seperate source package, since one goes to main and the other to universe? |
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[21:12] <ryanakca> kk |
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[21:13] <jpatrick> ryanakca: you might want to poke apachelogger_ or smarter about k-d-kde4 |
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[21:17] * ryanakca waits for their input |
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[21:19] <apachelogger_> I dunno |
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[21:19] <Lure> ryanakca: I would suspect kde4 will go to main too and Riddell mentioned that we cannot change seeds for some reasons yet |
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[21:19] <apachelogger_> probably we should create kubuntu-meta-kde4 |
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[21:19] <ryanakca> Lure: seeds? |
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[21:21] <Lure> ryanakca: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement |
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[21:21] <Lure> ryanakca: meta package is just start of the mess needed |
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[21:22] <ryanakca> Lure: ah, kk, thanks |
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[21:22] <ryanakca> hmm... for some reason firefox and KDE4 don't seem to want to play nice with each other... |
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[21:23] <hads> Works here |
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[21:23] <Lure> ryanakca: yep, firefox looks ugly under kde4 (gtkqt does not work or something) |
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[21:24] <jpatrick> Lure: Firefox is emulated GTK, no? |
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[21:24] <Lure> jpatrick: probably, not sure really |
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[21:25] <jpatrick> that's what I heard once |
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[21:26] <ryanakca> Lure: that, and when you type in a text field on a page, or scroll, the pager and/or the the taskbar flickers |
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[21:27] <Lure> ryanakca: I do not see that problem here - are you using desktop effects? |
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[21:27] <Lure> ryanakca: I also recall one bug with firefox and nvidia |
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[21:27] * ryanakca grumbles at everything else on the Todo being taken and debates between getting back to learning C++ or doing bugs |
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[21:27] <ryanakca> yep, desktop effects, and yep, nvidia :) |
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[21:28] <ryanakca> ... but firefox doesn't flicker, just it's little bubble on the taskbar and/or the desktop pager, depending on how the planets are aligned and the amount of black spots on the sun... |
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[21:28] <Lure> ryanakca: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154830 |
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[21:28] <ubotu> KDE bug 154830 in general "Plasmoids aren't correctly drawn when firefox is opened and you type something" [Normal,Resolved: invalid] |
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[21:30] <ryanakca> hmm... mine doesn't go like that... it just goes fully transparent... wait... |
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[21:30] * ryanakca wonders if it has anything to do with the transparency effect |
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[21:30] <ryanakca> (transparent until I mouse over / click on it) |
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[21:32] * ryanakca updates nvidia |
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[21:32] <iRon> ryanakca: I want to ask about kubuntu site.. do you planning to redesign it's structure too? e.g. 'FAQ' section must be in Documentation.. Remove duplicate 'Wiki' links.. and so on.. |
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[21:32] <ryanakca> iRon: yes |
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[21:32] <iRon> ryanakca: I'm asking, because I've some experience in usability design.. |
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[21:32] <ryanakca> iRon: full redesign... we're migrating to drupal. |
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[21:33] <ryanakca> iRon: oooh :) |
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[21:33] <iRon> ryanakca: also i know a good web designer.. will ask him for the help.. |
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[21:50] <jjesse> dang its cold outside |
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[22:39] <todobg> can some1 fix this bug with libkdeprint.so.5 ? |
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[22:41] <ryanakca> todobg: what bug? |
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[22:41] <ryanakca> did you file it? |
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[22:41] <todobg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4base/+bug/164791 |
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[22:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 164791 in kde4base "libkdeprint.so.5: No such file or directory" [Undecided,New] |
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[22:42] <ryanakca> heh, interesting... I might look into it... but no promises... |
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[22:42] <todobg> huh |
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