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In article <C6BIr5.InC.1@cs.cmu.edu> 18084TM@msu.edu (Tom) writes:
|On the other hand, I lived in OakBrook IL for a while, where zoning
|laws prohibit billboards, as you mention above. I think it was a
|fine law, despite it's contradictory basis.
And I lived out there too. It was a nice sleepy farm valley until
the Butler family decided to stick up all sorts of really tacky
High RIse office buildings and ruin my view of the sky.
I guess i should have sued somebody :-;
pat
| 14sci.space
|
Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap
a harvest if we do not give up.
Galatians 6:9
| 15soc.religion.christian
|
This has troubled me for a long time and needs to be dealt with.
From a long article Available through an individual on this newsgroup.
About scripture being against homosexuality:
------------------------------------------
When we are
less homophobic we will see that what we know as gay and lesbian people,
engaging in loving, voluntary erotic relations with each other, aren't even
mentioned. [in the Bible, tk]
------------------------------------------
This frightens me (not in the homophobic sense, but intellectually),
especially because it was written by someone from a homosexual church.
So, if my interpretation is different than theirs, I am homophobic! This
can't be right. Disagreement in interpretation of the Bible and/or rejection
of homosexual acts is not tantamount of homophobia.
====================================
Ted Kalivoda (tedr@athena.cs.uga.edu)
University of Georgia, Athens
Institute of Higher Ed.
| 15soc.religion.christian
|
Dear Xperts,
I'm developing an application that uses a Motif slider to select
an image file out of a directory. Now I would like to display the
name of the file corresponding to the value of the dragged scale
button (i.e. with the MB1 pressed). As XmNshowValue only displays
the current value of the scale button and not the actual corresponding
image file name, I thought of using an XtAddEventHandler to do
the mapping between the scale value and the file name:
XtAddEventHandler(scaleImage,Button1MotionMask, FALSE, SliderMoved, NULL);
and in the eventhandler do a:
while (XCheckTypedWindowEvent (display, event->window, MotionNotify, &Return))
;
XmScaleGetValue(scaleImage,&value);
/*map value to file entry in directory and finally obtain file name to open*/
However, when I move the pointer in the scale widget I get callbacks, with of co
urse
a null effect as my MB1 is not pressed to move the scale button. So what is goin
g wrong?
Or is the a wrong approach to this problem?
Any hints are highly appreciated.
---
Phil
| 5comp.windows.x
|
In article <1r4jsk$24v@apple.com>, chuq@apple.com (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:
> paul@fugu.Data-IO.COM (Paul Brownlow) writes:
>
>>Wood played most of his junior career in Seattle. He was one
>>of the leading scorers on a mediocre team when he was traded away in
>>1992. He rarely lost a fight and was one of the toughest players in
>>the WHL.
>
> Wood is fairly small for an enforcer-type. I mean, Fleury does a pretty good
> job and isn't that large, but Dody is no Fleury.
And Fleury is no enforcer. An agitator for sure, but Fleury never has and never
will have a fight, which seems to be what you're saying Wood is.
The closest Fleury ever came to fighting was a game two years ago against
Los Angeles. There was a scrum and McSorley pinched Fleury's head under his
arm. Fleury dropped his gloves and gave McSorley a weak shot to the side of the
head. McSorely, knowing a good thing when he saw one, popped Fleury one right
between the eyes. End of fight. Fleury got ten stitches for his trouble.
The only player I can ever see Theo fighting is Cliff Ronning, and even then
he'd be giving up two inches and 10-15 pounds. :-)
Alan
| 10rec.sport.hockey
|
In article <1993Apr19.180049.20572@qualcomm.com>, karn@unix.ka9q.ampr.org (Phil Karn) writes:
> In article <1993Apr18.233112.24107@colnet.cmhnet.org>, res@colnet.cmhnet.org (Rob Stampfli) writes:
> |> >Sadly, it does not. Suspects can be compelled to give handwriting and
> |> >voice exemplars, and to take blood and DNA tests.
> |>
> |> I am sure that Mike is correct on this point. I am also pretty sure that
> |> administering "truth serum" would be ruled a violation of your right
> |> not to incriminate yourself. But, what is the salient difference?
>
> You can find the salient difference in any number of 5th amendment
> related Supreme Court opinions. The Court limits 5th amendment
> protections to what they call "testimonial" evidence, as opposed to
> physical evidence.
I have a question that is a slight variation on the previously mentioned
examples that perhaps people could give me some pointers on (it has been a
couple of years since my Con Law class in college so I hope I am not
missing something obvious here...)
Basic Scenario:
I set up a bbs that uses public-key encryption and encryption of
files on disk. The general setup is designed so that when users
connect they send a private key encrypted using the system public
key and the user's public-private keypair is used to wrap the
one-time session keys used for encrypting the files on disk. The
result of this is that even if I reveal the system private key it
is impossible for anyone to gain access to the files stored on the
machine. What is possible is for someone to use the revealed
system private key to entice users into revealing thier personal
private keys during the authentication sequence.
Questions:
Does the fact that the system private key does not provide any
information useful for a search give me any protection as far as
being coerced to reveal the key? (I doubt it myself..)
It seems providing the system private key does not mean that I am
assisting in "entrapment" (the users would send thier key anyway
and are not being enticed into doing something they would not
otherwise do) but is there any other hook that can be used?
Would the user private-key enticement require wiretap approval?
Any answers or general musings on the subject would be appreciated...
jim
--
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mccoy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu | #include <disclaimer.h>
j-mccoy@nwu.edu | pgp key available via finger or upon request
| 11sci.crypt
|
In article <May.14.02.10.20.1993.25156@athos.rutgers.edu>
hudson@athena.cs.uga.edu (Paul Hudson Jr) writes:
>I think we must be careful before we totally throw out Leviticus.
>If the Law is reflection of God's character and true holy nature, then
>those who say that God endorses homosexuality run into a problem
Though this will be addressed in the series of articles I'm posting now under
"ARESNOKOITIA", I can't wait. This just really blew my socks off. Read I Tim
1: 3-11. Verses 3-8 speaks against those who have perverted the teachings of
the Mosaic Law. In vv.9-10, we have, *IN ORDER*, the 5th thru the 9th
commandments and in the midst of this listing is "homosexuals." The decalogue,
above everything else, is seen as God's absolute. If you don't believe in
absolutes, then you have nothing do do with Jehovah of the OT, which Paul
reveals to be the Messiah of the NT. "Lord Christ Jesus" transliterates to read
"Jehovah's Anointed Savior."
In I Cor5, we see the same emphasis of moral separation from the pagan
gentiles as we do in Lev 18-20. In I Cor 6:9-10, only one notation (drunkards)
is not found in Lev 18-20. Paul was not naive in his use of the LXX. He knew
full well how he was using the Law of God that was given in the OT, for
application in the NT. As I've said, the Law was fulfilled, not done away
with.
>>of questions we are trying to deal with. He encountered homosexuality
>>only in contexts where most people would probably agree that it was
>>wrong. He had never faced the experience of Christians who try to act
>>"straight" and fail, and he had never faced Christians who are trying
>>to define a Christian homosexuality, which fits with general Christian
>>ideals of fidelity and of seeing sexuality as a mirror of the
>>relationship between God and man. It is unfair to take Paul's
>>judgement on homosexuality among idolaters and use it to make
>>judgements on these questions.
This understanding is thoroughly rebutted in DeYoungs article that is being
posted. Please refer to it.
>
>One of the reasons that some of us do not accept that common argument
>is because Paul probably did face this and other problems.
We can do better than "probably" which is not an adequate defense against the
statement that Paul's culture didn't have the same understanding of
homosexuality as ours.
Again read the article because it uses facts.
>>I claim that the question of how to counsel homosexual Christians is
>>not entirely a theological issue, but also a pastoral one.
>
>I don't see how you come to that conclusion.
I think I do, because I have worked in the homosexual community by means of
working with AIDs patients. The pastoral is merely the practical application
of the theological truth however. Those who are working thru the issue of
homosexuality need to have our love and understanding just as with a friend who
is contiplating cheating on his wife or a friend who lives with his girlfriend,
yet you continue to witness to him. But, once the choice is made, and there is
no remorse, then I feel that Paul's "pastoral" care, as presented in the
Corinthian Church, come to bear significance. THe one in active rebellion
should be placed outside of the church if a believer, and if a non-believer,
then one wipes his sandels and leaves it in Gods hand. If there was a member
in your youth group who was constantly pawing at the little girls, you wouldn't
hesitate to deal with the matter quickly and decisivly. That, in part, betrays
the present "political correctness" of the issue. Pederasty is not accepted at
the present, but some how we are to accept homosexuality because the latter is
politically correct, while the former is not -at least not yet. THis is how
the morals decay.
I guess this would follow the liberal application in the political realm of
economics. The liberals want to tax the rich in the federal, yet in their own
states, when they try to get businesses to settle there, they give tax
incentives to these same richies. It comes down to a moral code of
relativeness, or to use the cultural thing, politically correct -at the moment.
--Rex
[You might want to look over 1 Tim 1:10 again. If this is really the
5th through 9th commandments, we seem to be missing thieves, and
homosexuals would have to be fit in under adultery. This is of course
possible if "arsenokoitia" has a narrower meaning than homosexuality
in general, but I think that's not your thesis. I have no objection
per se to the idea that the author of 1 Tim might have quoted the 10
commandments, but 5 through 9, minus one and plus a few things, begins
to look a bit marginal. --clh]
| 15soc.religion.christian
|
In article <strnlghtC5wC3z.Erw@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
>
>psionic@wam.umd.edu, whose parenthesized name is either an unfortunate
>coincidence or casts serious doubt on his bona fides, posts a message in
>which he seems willing to take the word of a private firm about which he
>knows little that their new encryption algorithm is secure and contains no
>trapdoors, while seemingly distrusting that of the government about clipper.
I have a couple reasons why I would be more likely to trust this algorithm:
1. The algorithm will be made totally public, once it is patented.
2. The keys will NOT be escrowed.
Of course if either of these is not true, I will not use this new algorithm.
Since I have never seen this new algorithm, I have no idea how secure it is
yet.
>I suppose it depends on how paranoid one wishes to be, but how does the
>writer know the firm isn't, for example, an NSA front? For purposes of this
>message, how do we know "psionic" isn't?
>
>I don't suggest that, but post this to point out that there is a class of
>speculation that has no more truth value, without lots of hard evidence,
>than the contrary one.
>
>By the way, if "psionic" had said, in lower case letters, that the firm
>CLAIMS there was no back door, I'd have no problem with that phrasing.
>
I can't make any judgements about the algorithm itself yet, but I do notice
that the creators of this algorithm are being more open about how the
thing works, and is willing to make it public, showing that after a bit
of scrutiny, any weaknesses will probably be revealed, while we don't know
about Clipper.
Doug Holland
--
| Doug Holland | Anyone who tries to take away my freedom |
| holland@cs.colostate.edu | of speech will have to pry it from my |
| PGP key available by E-mail | cold, dead lips!! |
| 11sci.crypt
|
In article <1993Apr22.125402.27561@fripp.ri.cadre.com> rj@ri.cadre.com writes:
>Someone in Canada asked me to send him some public domain DES file
>encryption code I have. Is it legal for me to send it?
I believe it's legal to send DES code or equipment from the US to Canada
with no export license. I think this is the only place you can do this - all
other countries require a license.
As an aside, I've always thought it should be legal to send DES software
anywhere, if you follow these rules:
1. Encrypt your DES software with DES.
2. Send the encrypted software to the recipient.
3. Send the key to the recipient.
The only way the person on the other end can use your DES software is if
he/she already *has* DES available - otherwise, they can't decrypt your
program, and it is useless. If you've guaranteed they already have DES,
have you really violated any law by sending it to them in the form of
your program?? I'm sure it's still illegal, but it seems like a good idea...
- Todd
| 11sci.crypt
|
Help....
I need to implement COM3 and COM4 on a board that I'm designing and I'm
finding it dificult to track down a definition (hardware that is) of COM3
and COM4.
I have the IO adresses and the fact that COM3 shares IRQ4 with COM1 and COM4
shares IRQ3 with COM2, except exactly how this IRQ sharing is done is not
clear especially if the existing COM1/2 does not allow IRQ sharing. Does the
standard??? allow for a different IRQ to be used and if so how.
Please answer by email to :-
neil@stone.oz.au
thanks in advance
Neil Watkinson.
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
|
Intro to ACCESS.bus (RE: the ACCESS.bus Software Creator's
Contest Announcement)
WHAT IS ACCESS.bus?
ACCESS.bus is a new open industry standard for computer
peripheral connectivity. ACCESS.bus is a serial protocol that
uses simple, low-cost I2C technology to link multiple devices to
a single PC port. Peripheral devices such as keyboards or
keypads, locators (Mice, Trackballs, Joysticks), printers, VR
gloves, digitizers, sensors, actuators or data transmitters and
others can be easily daisy chained to the host PC. Applications
such as CAD/CAM, Data Acquisition, Simulation, Virtual Reality,
Multiple-Player/Single PC Games, Education and many, many more
can now take advantage of ACCESS.bus, the technology that puts
Plug and Play on every PC.
The ACCESS.bus offers advantages to end-users and developers of
systems and peripherals. Multiple devices connect to the host
computer with only one port. Common communication methods for a
number of device types lead to simplified hardware and software
development. As an open standard, ACCESS.bus enables cross-
platform use of the same device.
ACCESS.bus TECHNOLOGICAL DESCRIPTION:
=====================================
ACCESS.bus technology is an open specification, enabling anyone
to implement it on host systems or in peripheral devices without
fee or royalty.
ACCESS.bus has a bus topology architecture. That is, a single
host can accommodate up to 125 peripheral devices. ACCESS.bus
data rate is 100 Kbits/sec.
ACCESS.bus Physical Layer
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
ACCESS.bus is a serial bus architecture, based on I2C hardware
protocol, with one data line and one clock line.
Standard low-cost I2C microcontrollers handle bit-level
handshaking, including automatic arbitration and clock
synchronization.
ACCESS.bus Software Protocols
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The ACCESS.bus communication protocol is composed of three
levels: I2C Protocol, Base Protocol, and Application Protocol.
I2C PROTOCOL: This simple and efficient protocol defines
arbitration among contending masters without losing data. I2C
provides for cooperative synchronization of bus partners with
different clock rates. Bus transactions include addressing,
framing of bits into bytes, and byte acknowledgment by the
receiver.
BASE PROTOCOL: Establishes the asymmetrical interconnect between
a host computer and multiple peripherals. The host becomes the
ACCESS.bus manager. The Base Protocol defines the format of an
ACCESS.bus message envelope, which is an I2C bus transaction with
additional semantics, including checksum.
Unique features of the Base Protocol are auto-addressing and hot
plugging. Auto-addressing assigns devices with unique bus
addresses, without the need for setting jumpers or switches. Hot
plugging is the ability to attach and detach devices while the
system is running, without rebooting.
APPLICATION PROTOCOL: This is the highest level of the ACCESS.bus
protocol which defines message semantics specific to particular
types of devices. Each type requires a different Application
Protocol. Three broad device types have been identified:
keyboards, locators, and text devices.
ACCESS.bus support on the PC
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
All three levels of the ACCESS.bus protocol are supported on the
PC. An add-on card implements the physical layer and uses the
base protocol to communicate with physical ACCESS.bus devices.
An ACCESS.bus Manager - TSR under DOS and a DLL under Windows 3.1
- controls the operation of the physical layer and interacts with
the ACCESS.bus device drivers. Drivers are available for
multiple ACCESS.bus keyboards, locators and printers for DOS and
Windows 3.1. Also available are C language source code examples
of the interface from applications to the device drivers.
To Contact ABIG (the ACCESS.bus Industry Group):
------------------------------------------------
Postal Address:
370 Altair Way, Suite 215, Sunnyvale, CA 94086
Internet Email: abig@netcom.com
Fax: (408) 991-3773
Voice: (408) 991-3517
| 1comp.graphics
|
In article <C5JCrF.KrM@news.udel.edu> philly@ravel.udel.edu (Robert C Hite) writes:
>
>DEAD WRONG! Last time I checked, Jim Fregosi was still managing the
>Phillies, and doing quite a fine job thank you...best record in
>baseball at 8-1
Look, asshole, I got him confused with somebody else. I didn't flame
you, and I would appreciate it if you extended me the same courtesy.
No, I don't know everything in the world. Does that surprise you?
-Valentine
| 9rec.sport.baseball
|
In article <1993Apr26.020100.29640@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca>, maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) writes...
>Once again the Leafs overcame the Red Wings in what was possibly the
>most exciting game played yet in this playoff year. Potvin was solid
>and Wendel completely dominated Probert. Gilmour, as usual, was the
>best player on the ice. And to those who claim that Andreychuk fades
>in the playoffs, please take note: Andreychuk is averaging a goal a
>game.
>
>3 stars
>
>Andreychuk - 2 goals
>Wendel - all over Probert
>Probert - all over everyone else
>
>Todd Gill also played an excellent game.
>
>We can't say enough about Doug Gilmour. When he is right, all is well.
>Gilmour brings to mind Davey Keon from the previous Leaf dynasty.
>
>Predictions so far on track:
>
>NYI over Buffalo and Leafs over LA Kings.
>
>Leafs over NYI in the final.
I can't let this pass.
*If* the Islanders get past Pitts. (Assuming the Isles beat the Caps, God
Willing), them I'm sorry, the Isles will crush the Leafs.
Flame shields up.
********************************************************************************
Of course no one asked me I always interject my opinions on matters I have no
concern over
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Go Islanders!!!!!! (3 down, 1 to go)
Go Jets for '93
********************************************************************************
>
>
>--
>
>cordially, as always, maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca
> "So many morons...
>rm ...and so little time."
| 10rec.sport.hockey
|
In article <1993Apr21.154122.13015@csus.edu> sphughes@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Shaun P. Hughes) writes:
>In article <1r3jgbINN35i@eli.CS.YALE.EDU> jgfoot@minerva.cis.yale.edu writes:
>>
>>Perhaps these encryption-only types would defend the digitized porn if it
>>was posted encrypted?
>>
>>These issues are not as seperable as you maintain.
>
>Now why would anyone "post" anything encrypted? Encryption is only of
>use between persons who know how to decrypt the data.
You mean something like Uuencode? It isn't super crypto, but it is encrypted.
Scott
--
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smoir@world.std.com \ \/ / # for a Prophet, and you've got it."
B4 f t+ w g k+(+!) s+ m r p+ \/\/ # "What's that?"
Also: pentangl@ursa-major.spdcc.com # "A mouth." - 'God' to J.R.'BoB' Dobbs
| 11sci.crypt
|
In article <1993Apr18.185226.27273@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca>, yee@nimios.eng.mcmaster.ca (Paul Yee) writes:
|> In article <khan0095.735001731@nova> khan0095@nova.gmi.edu (Mohammad Razi Khan) writes:
|> >glang@slee01.srl.ford.com (Gordon Lang) writes:
|> >
|> >>David Weisberger (djweisbe@unix.amherst.edu) wrote:
|> >>: I have a 5 1/4" drive as drive A. How can I make the system boot from
|> >>: my 3 1/2" B drive?
|>
|> [intermediate reply suggesting cable switch deleted]
|>
I heard boot_b.zip could do exactly what you wanted without touching
anything. Check it out with archie.
H.J.
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
|
In article <1qk73q$3fj@agate.berkeley.edu> dzkriz@ocf.berkeley.edu (Dennis Kriz) writes:
>In article <sandvik-140493233557@sandvik-kent.apple.com> sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes:
>>In article <1qid8s$ik0@agate.berkeley.edu>, dzkriz@ocf.berkeley.edu (Dennis
>>Kriz) wrote:
>>> The most recent reason given by the Clinton Administration for
>>> calling for federally funded abortions is that many private
>>> health insurance programs offer coverage for abortion.
>>
>>> The following are two form letters regarding this. Please send
>>> them around to friends as well as other BBSs
>>
>>"Just sign it and send it, sonny, don't read the fine print. Just
>>sign it, sonny! :-).
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kent
>>---
>>sandvik@newton.apple.com. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the net.
>
>
>Well you know that you're getting somewhere, when you start getting
>responses like this.
>
>Kent, let me explain it to you.
>
>If you are paying for a phone, and you don't want call-waiting, YOU DON'T
>NEED TO PAY FOR CALl-WAITING.
>
>This whole Clinton induced abortion debate SHOULD begin to make NARAL
>nervous, because it has exposed a real scam.
>
>If one is paying for a PRIVATE health insurance plan and DOES NOT WANT
>"abortion coverage" there is NO reason for that person to be COMPLELLED
>to pay for it. (Just as one should not be compelled to pay for lipposuction
>coverage if ONE doesn't WANT that kind of coverage).
There are "basic services" and there are "optional services", Dennis. Call
waiting is an optional service, but having the number "3" work on one's phone
is a basic service. Just because some nutcase doesn't happen to use the "3"
on his phone, since none of the numbers he calls has a "3" in it, doesn't mean
that he has the right to demand that the phone company "unbundle" the charges
for the use of each phone digit; an unbundling that would be horrendously
inefficient because of all the billing & bookkeeping overhead. Similarly,
abortion can be seen as a "basic service".
Furthermore, public funding of abortion SAVES money, as well as being, in the
views of a substantial portion of the population, probably a clear majority,
an ethical thing to do. If you don't like saving money on your taxes in that
way, why don't you take the taxes you save and invest in private charities
with programs that help reduce the NEED for abortion. If every pro-lifer did
the same, it would create a massive economic negative feedback loop which
would all but ELIMINATE the need for public funding of abortion. Then you
would get your wish. And, you know what? No pro-choicer I know would stop
you carrying out that plan. They might even HELP you with it...
- Kevin
| 18talk.politics.misc
|
From: nataraja@rtsg.mot.com (Kumaravel Natarajan)
>But they can put out a lot of particulate matter. I heard
>something about legislation being discussed to "clean up
>diesel emissions". Is there anything in the works to
>install "scrubbers" for diesels? How about the feasibility
>of installing them on trucks and cars? Would it be any
>different than a catylitic converter? I'd assume easier,
>since we're removing particulate matter instead of converting
>gasses. Let's hear people's opinions...
The technology Cummins is applying to diesels to comply with
the newer Ca. emissions laws involves three things I know of:
1. All compliant diesels are turbocharged.
2. All use an "aftercooler", which cools the air which was heated
by compression by the turbocharger (up to about 25 PSI).
3. A gismo on the injector pump which senses the pressurized air
intake, and limits full delivery of fuel while the pressure is
low.
No scrubbers, catalytic converters, etc, are used. The path from
the turbocharger to the exhaust outlet is kept very free.
Interestingly, except for the low-pressure fuel limitation, power output
and mileage are enhanced by these measures. One can buy aftermarket
turbos and aftercoolers which generate more power, lots more power,
and these are approved by the CARB.
Dan Hepner
| 7rec.autos
|
I was asked to post the team log of this year's winning team in the regular
season draft. Here 'tis:
%begin Dave_Wessels
...reading team 'Dave_Wessels' from database
%log all
Team log:
Name Team Points Value Bought Week Sold Week
Trevor Linden VAN 72 72.0 78.8 pre 70.4 10
Cliff Ronning VAN 85 85.0 74.6 pre 97.8 6
Robert Reichel CGY 88 88.0 58.9 pre 51.4 8
Pat Verbeek HFD 82 82.0 63.0 pre 64.3 7
Pat Falloon SJ 28 28.0 62.7 pre 46.8 7
John MacLean NJ 48 48.0 55.0 pre 27.5 7
Eric Lindros PHI 75 75.0 55.0 pre 105.0 6
Rick Tocchet PIT 109 109.0 81.2 pre 106.9 9
Greg Adams VAN 56 56.0 63.0 pre 93.8 8
Mike Ricci QUE 78 78.0 60.3 pre 79.8 6
Joe Juneau BOS 102 102.0 55.0 pre 110.9 6
Kevin Hatcher WSH 79 79.0 57.4 pre 54.6 6
Teemu Selanne WPG 132 132.0 55.0 pre 109.2 6
Pavel Bure VAN 110 110.0 77.5 pre 108.9 8
Dixon Ward VAN 52 52.0 55.0 pre 61.2 7
Russ Courtnall MIN 79 79.0 60.7 6 84.6 14
Darren Turcotte NYR 53 53.0 60.7 6 72.1 14
Christian Ruuttu CHI 54 54.0 61.9 6 52.2 13
Petr Nedved VAN 71 71.0 59.3 6 84.5 12
Petr Klima EDM 48 48.0 65.3 6 -- --
Tony Granato LA 82 82.0 56.0 6 75.6 12
Steve Duchesne QUE 82 82.0 88.7 6 92.2 13
Alexander Mogilny BUF 127 127.0 103.8 6 118.8 14
Ray Sheppard DET 66 66.0 55.0 7 63.0 15
Steve Larmer CHI 70 70.0 64.9 7 79.7 17
Vincent Damphousse MTL 97 97.0 64.9 7 94.5 15
Tony Amonte NYR 76 76.0 63.0 7 63.0 16
Brendan Shanahan STL 94 94.0 55.0 8 -- --
Corey Millen LA 39 39.0 55.0 8 48.9 16
Johan Garpenlov SJ 66 66.0 55.0 8 55.9 15
Kelly Kisio SJ 78 78.0 63.0 8 72.3 15
Pat Elynuik WSH 57 57.0 57.0 9 56.7 16
Benoit Hogue NYI 75 75.0 61.6 10 74.3 20
Pat Flatley NYI 60 60.0 55.0 11 59.9 18
Rod Brind'Amour PHI 86 86.0 74.1 12 81.0 19
Michal Pivonka WSH 74 74.0 55.0 12 -- --
Joe Mullen PIT 70 70.0 55.0 12 -- --
John Cullen TOR 50 50.0 55.0 13 55.7 19
Stephane Richer NJ 73 73.0 55.0 13 61.8 19
Jeff Norton NYI 50 50.0 64.0 14 56.3 20
Glenn Anderson TOR 65 65.0 55.0 14 -- --
Ray Bourque BOS 82 82.0 65.6 14 -- --
Bernie Nicholls NJ 60 60.0 72.8 14 67.8 20
Andrew Cassels HFD 85 85.0 56.0 14 -- --
Dmitri Kvartalnov BOS 72 72.0 82.1 15 -- --
Tomas Sandstrom LA 52 52.0 59.7 15 43.6 22
Joe Sakic QUE 105 105.0 109.6 15 -- --
Rob Blake LA 59 59.0 59.5 16 -- --
Derek King NYI 76 76.0 68.3 16 70.9 22
Michel Goulet CHI 44 44.0 55.0 16 45.4 23
Mike Modano MIN 93 93.0 90.5 17 -- --
Dmitri Khristich WSH 67 67.0 55.0 18 -- --
Alexander Semak NJ 79 79.0 62.6 19 -- --
Nikolai Borschevsky TOR 74 74.0 69.3 19 -- --
Mike Donnelly LA 69 69.0 70.5 19 -- --
Jeff Brown STL 78 78.0 69.1 20 -- --
Thomas Steen WPG 72 72.0 55.0 20 -- --
Kevin Dineen PHI 63 63.0 55.5 20 -- --
Mario Lemieux PIT 160 160.0 134.9 22 -- --
Wayne Gretzky LA 65 65.0 55.0 23 -- --
You have 1.9 cash points.
As of week 28, your team is placed 1 (of 262 teams).
--
Andrew Scott | andrew@idacom.hp.com
HP IDACOM Telecom Operation | (403) 462-0666 ext. 253
During the Roman Era, 28 was considered old...
| 10rec.sport.hockey
|
Does anyone know how to absolute memory locations in windows,
ie. hardware that is memory mapped at very high addresses 16mb++
and above?
Please reply by email
thanks
David
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
|
Excuse the sheer newbieness of this post, but I am looking for a decent
PaintProgram which will save to various file formats (.BMP .PCX etc etc)
via ftp, freeware, or shareware. I would like to check out the available
programs for little $$ before I check out the commercial market.
Thanks in advance for any help or direction you can give me.
Daemon
| 1comp.graphics
|
Hi Netters,
As promised, here are the summary of opinions on DoubleDisk Gold v.6.0.
People seem to be quite happy with the product. There is no much of
opinion on how good it is compared to the industry leader Stacker 3.0.
(Superstor Pro is not considered since it is slower than Stacker although
just as reliable - BYTE Magazine's conclusion ;-) ), so it's hard to make
any decision to go with Stacker or with DoubleDisk Gold v6.0.
However, it seems that at $39.95, it is quite a buy.
Buddy Christyono
buddy@optics.ece.wisc.edu
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summary of replies
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Hello Buddy,
I do not have DD Gold 6.0 experience. I just ordered it. I currently have
DD 2.3 (the last version). I am very pleased with its performance.
Here is my suggestion...
1) If you do not have any compression software currently, I would go with
DOS 6.0's compression. All the discussion on the net indicates that
for $50 you get the compression (built into the OS), plus the other
utilities that you would pay way more than $50 for. Besides, you
are now at DOS6.0 (whatever that means...)
2) If you have DoubleDisk 2.3 already (like I do), the cost is $29.95
for the upgrade. After thinking about it and asking the net, I
decided that I could not go wrong with the update cost!
I have never suffered from performance of DD. I have a 12ms HD with
large SW packages in both compressed and uncompressed format. It
works great. Not delays. I think the "A" is better than "B"
arguements are a lot of bunk... they are all comparable in performance.
I am looking forward to being able to "LOADHIGH" the DD sw. That
has been an annoyance.
3) If you have Stacker, et.al. currently, I would not see it worth the
effort to upgrade.
Just my $.02 ...
Regards,
Mark Bagdy
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Buddy,
I got the same mailer. About 2 weeks ago I got DDG and installed it. The
documentation was, in my opinion, easy to follow. I used the automatic
installation (not the custom) and everything went smoothly.
There were some specific instructions on a readme file for dealing with 386max
& QEMM. DDG has an uninstall (unlike DOS6.0) if you need it. My system has a
203Mb hard drive. before installing DDG I had ~5Mb free. After DDG I had
~197Mb free. Pretty good statistics considering that my 8Mb permanent windows
swap file stayed on the uncompressed portion (along with other drivers and
such).
I have had no problems whatsoever. I have noticed no slowdown (other than it
takes a little longer to boot) either in windows or dos. So far I am a very
happy camper.
-Bruce
--
Bruce F. Steinke | "Never know when you're going to
bsteinke@dsd.es.com | need a good piece of rope."
Software Technical Support Engineer | Sam Gamgee
Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp. | <My mail, My Opinions>
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I have been using DoubleDisk Gold for a little more than a month on
a 486DX 33Mhz, 120MB Seagate drive, running DOS & Windows in 386 enhanced
mode.
I ran some tests and concluded that the speed of a DoubleDisk drive
with a drive read cache is about equal to the bare drive without a cache.
I have no complaints about reliability. It was very easy to install.
The only problem I had was with Castle Wolfenstein 3-D. I assumed the game
was trying to bypass DOS disk access and moved the game to the non-compressed
region of the disk. Since then the game has never given me a problem.
There was never any damage to the DoubleDisk drive.
Compression performance for the whole disk has held steady
around 1.8:1. This is lower than expected but about 20% (size) of my files
are compressed image files and some large zip files.
If you have any more specific questions let me know.
Dan
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I bought it an have been happy with it. I use it on both MFM and IDE 40
MB drives. I was using DoubleDisk before Gold came out. That is the
same product MSDOS 6.0 is shipping with. No problems with either
product.
--
Ron Bjornseth bjornset@pogo.den.mmc.com
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| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
|
I want to do the equivalent of an "xwininfo -name" via a call or set of calls
in Xlib. I need to map a windows name to its id.
It's probably easy, but I've only been programming in X for a little while.
I've looked in the O'reilly books and didn't find it and I also checked the
FAQ and couldn't find it.
Email to one of the following addresses and I'll post a response if it
seems reasonable to do so.
Guy
--
Guy L. Babineau virginia.edu!smarine.uucp!glb6j
Sperry Marine Inc. 72147.2474@compuserve.com
| 5comp.windows.x
|
In article <1rjr1uINNh8@gap.caltech.edu>, carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) writes...
>In article <1993Apr26.204319.11231@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, eas3714@ultb.isc.rit.edu (E.A. Story) writes:
>=In article <1rgrsvINNmpr@gap.caltech.edu> carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
>=>Greg:Flame definitely intended here. Bill was making fun of the misspelling.
>=>Go look up the word "krill." Also, the correct spelling is Kirlian. It
>=>involves taking photographs of corona discharges created by attaching the
>=>subject to a high-voltage source, not of some "aura." It works equally well
>=>with inanimate objects.
>=
>=True.. but what about showing the missing part of a leaf? Is this
>="corona discharge"?
>
>Yup. The demonstration to which you refer consists of placing a leaf between
>the plates, and taking a Kirlian photograph of it. You then cut off part of
>the leaf, put the top plate back on, and take another Kirlian photograph. You
>see pretty much the same image in both cases. Turns out the effect isn't
>nearly so striking if you take the trouble to clean the plates between
>photographs. Seems that the moisture from the leaf that you left on the place
>conducts electricity. Surprise, surprise!
This is true, but it's not quite the whole story. There were
actually some people who were more careful in their methodology
who also replicated the 'phantom leaf effect.'
One of the most influential critics of Kirlian Electrophotography
is a Theosophist (and threfore presumably willing to entertain the
hypothesis of scientific evidence for a human aura, electromagnetic
or otherwise), professor of electrical engineering at London's
City University, and a past president of the Society for Psychic Research
named A. J. Ellison.
After years of studying the method and the claims, Ellison
came to the conclusion that the photographic images are what we
calls 'Lichtenberg Figures,' an effect of intermittent ionization of
the air around the object. It's a bit more complicated than
'not wiping off the plates,' but it comes down to the same thing
in the end, Kirlian electrophotography has much more limited
value (if any) than was previously widely thought. Electrical and
magnetic fields generated by the body are much too small to be
of much use diagnostically without very elaborate equipment and
usually also tracer chemicals.
kind regards,
todd
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| Philadelphia, Pa. USA |
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| 13sci.med
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mattb@hawk.samsung.com (Matt Brown) writes:
[more about the Messier-Samuelsson incident]
>While this is true, strictly speaking, it was the Rocksteady replicant who
>initially used his stick illegally to measure Messier's ribcage. There is no
>question in my mind, from seeing the replay in slo-mo, that Ulf-2000 was
>coming at Messier with intent-to-"hasta la vista" in mind, and should have
>been gone for that.
>
I agree with Rick that Ulf's cross check wasn't illegal. It was the kind
of check you see a dozen times during a game without being called. Slo-mos
sometimes have a tendency to make things look worse than they really are.
Besides, if Messier can't take the heat, he should stay out of the kitchen.
>So Staffan, how is Mattias Timmander doing this year? And any impression
>on Markus Czeriew??? (lost my roster list) on Hammerby? Does it look like
>they will make it to the Eliteserien for next year? And then get stomped
>if Markus goes to Boston?
>
Well Matt, Mattias Timmander hasn't been playing with the MoDo elite league
team yet (just the MoDo junior team), so I predict he needs a few more years
here before he can join the B's. I saw him play in the Swedish championship
game for junior players this year, and he played very well, a physical game,
but not the kind of rough stuff that Ulfie does (I suspect you would like to
have a Ulf type-of-player on the B's team too? :)
As for Mariusz Czerkawski, he has had a *great* season for Hammarby in
division 1. He scored -if I remember correctly- 93 points this season,
and then we have to keep in mind that a 50+ point season in Sweden is
considered *very good* due to the limited number of games. Mariusz is
Djurgarden property (he was just on loan to Hammarby), so he will play
in Elitserien next season, unless the B's can get him of course.
I would say that Mariusz has to be one of the most exciting player to
watch in Swedish hockey this season.
Staffan
--
((\\ //| Staffan Axelsson
\\ //|| etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se
\\_))//-|| r.s.h. contact for Swedish hockey
| 10rec.sport.hockey
|
In article <C5ovwv.LMo@news.iastate.edu> schauf@iastate.edu (Brian J Schaufenbuel) writes:
>I am looking at buying some Companion brand VLB/ISA/EISA motherboards with
>HINT chipsets. Has anybody had any experience with this board (good or bad)?
>Any information would be helpful!
>thanks
>Brian J Schaufenbuel
I believe that any VL/EISA/ISA motherboard that uses the HINT chipset
is limited to 24-bit EISA DMA (where 'real' EISA DMA is 32-bit). The
HINT EISA DMA has the 16 mb ram addressing limitation of ISA. For this
reason I would pass. I own one of these (HAWK VL/EISA/ISA) and am look-
ing to replace it for exactly this reason.
Please double-check me on this. In other words, call the motherboard
manufacturer and ask them if the motherboard supports true 32-bit EISA
DMA.
Other than this limitation, the motherboard works quite well (I am using
mine with DOS 5, Windows 3.1, and UNIX S5R3.2). Also with Adaptec 1742a
EISA SCSI host adapter.
--
Gary Korenek (korenek@nmti.com)
Network Management Technology Incorporated
Sugar Land, Texas (713) 274-5357
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
|
field@cae.wisc.edu (Michael Brian Field) writes:
>
> All you BD apologists seem to be conveniently forgetting
> Jonestown. It would have looked much worse if the feds had just
> waited till they all committed suicide. This was a no win situation,
> although the final raid was a tragic failure - they should have
> been able to get more people out alive.
>
"BD apologists?"
Give me a break.
Brian "Rev. P-K" Siano revpk@cellar.org
"Well, I'll know right away by the look in her eyes
she's lost all illusions and she's worldly wise, and I know
if I give her a listen, she's what I've been missing, what I've been missing
I'll be lost in love and havin' some fun with my cynical girl
Who's got no use for the real world, I'm looking for a Cynical Girl"
--- Marshall Crenshaw, "Cynical Girl"
| 19talk.religion.misc
|
Peir-Yuan Yeh asks:
>I wonder if the OT is not exactly like Jewish history. Are they the
same >or part of them are the same? How about Torah? Are the first five
books >of OT as the same as Torah?????
Yes, yes, and yes. Jewish history as recorded in the Old Testament and
as shown by archaeology are the same. Kings, revivals, Temples, and all.
The Torah, as far as I know, is the five books of Moses. Then come the
Prophets (all the Prophets, plus Joshua, Judges, 1&2 Samuel, 1&2 Kings)
and the Writings (Psalms, Proverbs, Lamentations, Ruth, Esther, Ezra,
Nehemiah, Ecclesiates, Song of Songs, 1&2 Chronicles, Job).
And the veracity of Isaiah, which you quoted to your Moslem friend is
quite well known. A complete manuscript exists that dates back to past
200 BC, and is kept in a Museum in Israel. It was found among the Dead
Sea Scrolls, which greatly enhanced our knowledge of the veracity of the
Old Testament, as they date back to around the time of Christ, whereas
before, the oldest complete manuscript in Hebrew was from around 900 AD.
Your Moslem friend is sorely mistaken, but understandably so. If Jesus
was crucified, and atoned for our sins, he must have been God, for only
the death of God could atone for the sins of all humanity. And as
Isaiah predicts, the messiah will be called "the mighty God." And if he
was God, then he must have rose, for as St. Paul wrote, it was not
possible that death could hold him. And if Jesus rose from the dead,
your Moslem friend would have little reason to be a Moslem. Which is
why he denies the authenticity of the Old Testament.
Andy Byler
| 15soc.religion.christian
|
On re-reading this, I decided there was something else I'd like
to add to my earlier comments...
Please forgive me if I get any attributions wrong here...
Also, this isn't really appropriate to talk.origins, but I hope
you all will excuse me just this once, as they say...
In article <C5tx38.Av8@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>,
Laurence Gene Battin (battin@cyclops.iucf.indiana.edu) wrote:
> In article <schinder.735362755@leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov>,
> Paul J. Schinder (schinder@leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov) wrote:
> > In <1993Apr20.154658@IASTATE.EDU>
> > kv07@IASTATE.EDU (Warren Vonroeschlaub) writes:
> > >In article <lt8d3bINNj1g@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, emarsh@hernes-sun.Eng.Sun.COM
> > >(Eric Marsh) writes:
[snip, snip]
> > > Now that has always confused me. Once a black hole forms, I don't see
> > >how
> > >anything could pass the event horizon (perhaps including the original
> > >mass
> > >that formed (is forming) the black hole in the first place.
> > > Let's say that we drop a marble into the black hole. It races, ever
> > >faster, towards the even horizon. But, thanks to the curving of space
> > >caused by the excessive gravity, as the object approaches the event
> > >horizon
> > >it has further to travel. Integrating the curve gives a time to reach
> > >the
> > >event horizon of . . .
> > >infinity. So the math says that nothing can enter a black hole.
It seems to me that you are mis-using physical intuition here. My point is
that you are talking about global conditions influencing local phenomena
inappropriately. Remember that there is no such thing as a "global" frame
of reference for time. Our minds like to pretend that there is, and we
imagine things like the calendar on Alpha Centaury being approx. 4 years off
from ours on Earth.
This is simply wrong. There is NO global "time" which can be applied to
events on Alpha Centaury concurrently with events on Earth. This is what
Special Relativity has taught us. If I am travelling past the Earth at
a high rate of speed toward A.C. I can even have a different view of the
_order_ of the occurance of events on A.C. versus Earth. Thus, the answer to
the question, "what's happening on Alpha Centaury NOW?" is NOT well-defined, if
asked on Earth, until you specify all the relevant parameters such as relative
velocities and the like; AND it will have different answers for different
values of these parameters.
Now, in the vicinity of a black hole, the curvature of spacetime becomes
important enough that this lack of a global frame of reference becomes
very important. In particular, the frame used by a distant observer is quite
different from the frame appropriate to the falling object. Our minds just
don't seem able to easily deal with the idea that time itself could be
behaving differently in these two locations, but the equations of relativity
say that it does. We would _like_ to say "the falling object is hovering
above the horizon, NOW", for an object whose frame has rotated wholly "away"
from ours. In a very real sense, once the object has fallen into the hole
its gone forever from our ken. Unless you volunteer to jump in after it,
that is... :-)
Gene Battin
battin@cyclops.iucf.indiana.edu
no .sig yet
| 19talk.religion.misc
|
A very good R&B group came out in 1988 called the Pasadenas. I bought their
cassette single and fell in love with it. I've tried to find their LP
or CD but have had no success whatsoever. Just wondering whether anyone
out in Netland had heard of them....
their song that hit the charts was called Tribute...
thanks!
Jay....
jhdickerson@amh.amherst.edu or jhdicker@amhux1.amherst.edu
| 6misc.forsale
|
kevin@kosman.uucp (Kevin O'Gorman) writes:
>Anybody seen the date get stuck?
>I'm running MS-DOS 5.0 with a menu system alive all the time. The machine
>is left running all the time.
>Suddenly, the date no longer rolls over. The time is (reasonably) accurate
>allways, but we have to change the date by hand every morning. This involves
>exiting the menu system to get to DOS.
>Anyone have the slightest idea why this should be? Even a clue as to whether
>the hardware (battery? CMOS?) or DOS is broken?
>--
>Kevin O'Gorman ( kevin@kosman.UUCP, kevin%kosman.uucp@nrc.com )
>voice: 805-984-8042 Vital Computer Systems, 5115 Beachcomber, Oxnard, CA 93035
>Non-Disclaimer: my boss is me, and he stands behind everything I say.
I've started to notice the same thing myself. I'm running DOS 5 and Win 3.1 so
I can fix it from the Windows Control Panel. At times it is the date, at
others the clock seems to be running several minutes behind where it should
be.
If you find out I'd like to know also. Oh, and I also leave my system running
all the time.
--
Barry Sardis | Home: (408) 448-1589
1241 Laurie Avenue | Office: (408) 448-7404
San Jose, CA 95125 | Fax: (408) 448-7404
Email: bsardis@netcom.COM or 70105.1210@compuserve.COM
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
|
Hi. One of my coworkers is having a very odd problem. His mouse
works fine in DOS applications, if you load them from the C: prompt.
Under Windows, the mouse pointer is present, but does not move. Even
if you load a DOS app under Windows, the mouse doesn't work.
The computer is a Zeos 386SX-20 w/Diamond Speedstar VGA running MS
DOS 5.0 and Windows 3.1. Mouse driver is Microsoft's 8.2. I've tried
switching the mouse from COM1 to COM2, I've tried a different mouse,
I've reinstalled MOUSE.DRV, and I can't get the blamed thing to work.
The only difference between his system and mine (where the mouse works
perfectly) is that he has an expansion card with an additional
parallel and serial port. Could that cause the problem?
Thanks in advance for any help.
--
Carl Fink carlf@panix.com C.FINK4 (GEnie)
"If you can't laugh at yourself, then you can bet that everyone else is doing
so." - Ed Johnston
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
|
Pixie (dl2021@andy.bgsu.edu) wrote:
: For all the problems technology has caused, your types have made
: things even worse. Must we be reminded of the Inquisition, Operation
: Rescue, the Ku Klux Klan, Posse Comitatus, the 700 Club, David Duke, Salem
: Witch Trials, the Crusades, gay bashings, etc.
: PLUS virtually each and every single war, regardless of the level of
: technology, has had theistic organizations cheering on the carnage
: (chaplains, etc.), and claiming that god was in favor of the whole ordeal.
: Don't forget to pray for our troops!
:
This is really tedious. Every bad thing that's ever happened is
because the malefactors were under the influence of religion - does
anyone -really- believe that. I've seen it so often it must be a
pretty general opinion in a.a, but I want to believe that atheists are
really not THAT dishonest. Please, stick to the facts and, having
accomplished that, interpret them correctly.
Bill
| 0alt.atheism
|
MIGHTY ONES GET MIGHTIER:
TPS, the Finnish Champions 1992/3, are getting still stronger!
I just heard some news, according to which TPS has acquired
the next Finnish hockey superstar(??) Jere Lehtinen from Kiekko-Espoo!
There are also some rumours about Erik Kakko (Reipas) and Marko Jantunen
(KalPa) being traded to TPS. Both of this players are currently on the
Finnish olympic team. I think that Jantunen is drafted to the NHL, too.
BTW. Is Juha Yl|nen (centre, HPK) drafted by the Jets?? During last year
he has reached the top level among Finnish centres. He had very good
playoff games against TPS!
Hannu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> GO JETS GO ! >>>>>>>> TEEMU ! >>>>>>> TEPPO ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> TAPPARA >>>>>> CANADIENS >>>>>>> BLACKHAWKS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
| 10rec.sport.hockey
|
My previous posting on dog attacks must have generated some bad karma or
something. I've weathered attempted dog attacks before using the
approved method: Slow down to screw up dog's triangulation of target,
then take off and laugh at the dog, now far behind you. This time, it
didn't work because I didn't have time. Riding up the hill leading to my
house, I encountered a liver-and-white Springer Spaniel (no relation to
the Springer Softail, or the Springer Spagthorpe, a close relation to
the Spagthorpe Viking). Actually, the dog encountered me with intent to
harm.
But I digress: I was riding near the (unpainted) centerline of the
roughly 30-foot wide road, doing between forty and sixty clicks (30 mph
for the velocity-impaired). The dog shot at me from behind bushes on the
left side of the road at an impossibly high speed. I later learned he
had been accelerating from the front porch, about thirty feet away,
heading down the very gently sloped approach to the side of the road. I
saw the dog, and before you could say SIPDE, he was on me. Boom! I took
the dog in the left leg, and from the marks on the bike my leg was
driven up the side of the bike with considerable force, making permanent
marks on the plastic parts of the bike, and cracking one panel. I think
I saw the dog spin around when I looked back, but my memory of this
moment is hazy.
I next turned around, and picked the most likely looking house. The
apologetic woman explained that the dog was not seriously hurt (cut
mouth) and hoped I was not hurt either. I could feel the pain in my
shin, and expected a cool purple welt to form soon. Sadly, it has not.
So I'm left with a tender shin, and no cool battle scars!
Interestingly, the one thing that never happened was that the bike never
moved off course. The not inconsiderable impact did not push the bike
off course, nor did it cause me to put the bike out of control from some
gut reaction to the sudden impact. Delayed pain may have helped me
here, as I didn't feel a sudden sharp pain that I can remember.
What worries me about the accident is this: I don't think I could have
prevented it except by traveling much slower than I was. This is not
necessarily an unreasonable suggestion for a residential area, but I was
riding around the speed limit. I worry about what would have happened if
it had been a car instead of a dog, but I console myself with the
thought that it would take a truly insane BDI cager to whip out of a
blind driveway at 15-30 mph. For that matter, how many driveways are
long enough for a car to hit 30 mph by the end?
I eagerly await comment.
Ryan Cousinetc.|1982 Yamaha Vision XZ550 -Black Pig of Inverness|Live to Ride
KotRB |1958 AJS 500 C/S -King Rat |to Work to
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| 8rec.motorcycles
|
Hi,
I just got XFree86 running on my pc with Consensys and encountered a few
minor (I hope) probems.
The pc is hooked up to a LAN where I want remote X applications to
connect to my X-server. I believe the command to permit this is
xhost. When I'm logged on my pc and type 'xhost + ' , I get the error message saying
"You must be on local machine to enable access".
what does this mean ? ain't I already on the local machine?
Another problem I have is with the mouse movement. I find that the
mouse cursor moves extremely slow and choppy.
How can I make the mouse cursor move more accurately?
thank in advance.
Any help is much appreciated.
please send replies to christy@alex.qc.ca.
Christy
| 5comp.windows.x
|
In <62890018@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com> taybh@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Beng Hang TAY) writes:
>Hi,
> I am buying a Quantum LPS240AT 245 MB hardisk and is deciding a
> HDD/FDD controller. Is 32-bit VL-bus HDD/FDD controller faster
> than 16 bit IDE HDD/FDD controller card? I hear that
> the VL bus controller is SLOWER than a IDE controller?
> Which one is true?
The VL-IDE Adapter can be much faster then the normal IDE, it depends on the
drive you use and the board you use. I am using a NoName VL-IDE I/O Contr.
it is tested under coretest with 2.000 kb/s using a cheap Seagate 3196 and nearly
4000 kb/s using a WD-Caviar 2340, you have figure out the jumper setting on the
controller to get reliable diskaccess, fastest setting gets 4600 kb/s under Coretest
but does not work reliable. You have to shadow the adapter BIOS to get the fast
speed. I havenŽt used a VL-IDE-Cache controller yet, but it might speed up twice.
dieter
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Maehlsweg 32 ,D-2300 Kiel 17, Germany Master of the WOM
Tel .: +49 431 362705 (Voice)
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| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
|
I have a little question:
I need to convert RGB-coded (Red-Green-Blue) colors into HVS-coded
(Hue-Value-Saturnation) colors. Does anyone know which formulas to
use?
Thanks!
R.W.Hartog remcoha@solist.htsa.aha.nl
| 1comp.graphics
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In article <C5nz60.99z@scraps.uucp>, frankh@scraps.uucp (Frank Holden KA3UWW) writes:
> In <C57zsC.9FL@news.cso.uiuc.edu> rky57514@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tall Cool One ) writes:
>
>>I'm looking for an IC that will convert RS232 voltage levels to TTL voltage
>>levels. Something relatively inexpensive would be nice, too. Anyone have
>>a suggestion?? Thanks.
>
> Well it looks as if Digi-Key sells a chip with the number ICL232 that does what
> you want. They are selling it for about $3.50...
Digi-Key also sells Quad Line Receivers, parts DS1489AN (68cents) and DS1489N
(48cents). A Quad Line Driver, part DS1488 (48cents), is also sold. I guess
if you don't won't to supply +12V, the chips with the pump-up circuitry might
be worth the extra cost. But 1488's and 1489's are available at your friendly
neighborhood RS, parts MC1488 (276-2520) for $1.29 and MC1489 (276-2521) for
$1.29.
Jeff White jhwhit01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
| 12sci.electronics
|
In <1qvs59$knh@crl.crl.com> bob@nntp.crl.com (Bob Ames) writes:
>Here is a list of items for the 3B1 which I am selling:
List deleted..........
>PPS: Priam D519 150M Hard Drives (Exactly same as Maxtor 2190, but faster)
Does anyone know what the jumpers should be set to on the Maxtor 2190??
I have a 2190 that came off of a VS2000 that I would like to use on a PC.
Thanks in advance...Colin.
| 6misc.forsale
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I have numerous 7000 series scopes which are surplus to requirements.
These devices range from fully functional to having a fault which
remained unrepaired since they weren't needed any longer.
My query is: is there anybody in Australia interested in buying them?
I think the shipping costs would make it impractical to send them O/S.
(Certainly the mainframes, but if you're willing to pay shipping, I'll
consider offers for individual plug-ins).
For those who are in the know (anywhere in the world), what are these
bits worth second hand in your area?
I have:
11 7603 Mainframes
4 7A15 Vertical Amp
18 7A15A Vertical Amp
1 7A16 Vertical Amp
10 7A22 Differential Amp (10uV / Div, 1 MHz, 100,000:1 CMRR)
6 7B50 Timebase
8 7B50A Timebase
1 7B51 Timebase
in addition, I have the following, which have been smoke damaged in a fire
and, although washed, are probably a little more prone to failure than
the others:
2 7603 Mainframes
5 7403N Mainframes
5 7A15 Vertical Amp
2 7A15A Vertical Amp
5 7B50 Timebase
Overall, I suspect that the 7A22's are worth as much as all the rest
put together. All bar one of these are operational - that one failed
and has never been repaired because it was no longer needed.
The 7A22 has an on-board voltage offset as well as switchable high-
and low- pass filters. There is _nothing_ on the market, to my
knowledge, that comes close to the specs of this plug-in.
All of the above have service manuals.
| 12sci.electronics
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In <16BA7103C3.I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de> I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (Benedikt Rosenau) writes:
>In article <1993Apr5.091258.11830@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
>darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Fred Rice) writes:
>
>(Deletion)
>>>>Of course people say what they think to be the religion, and that this
>>>>is not exactly the same coming from different people within the
>>>>religion. There is nothing with there existing different perspectives
>>>>within the religion -- perhaps one can say that they tend to converge on
>>>>the truth.
>>
>>>My point is that they are doing a lot of harm on the way in the meantime.
>>>
>>>And that they converge is counterfactual, religions appear to split and
>>>diverge. Even when there might be a 'True Religion' at the core, the layers
>>>above determine what happens in practise, and they are quite inhumane
>>>usually.
>>>
>
>What you post then is supposed to be an answer, but I don't see what is has
>got to do with what I say.
>
>I will repeat it. Religions as are harm people. And religions don't
>converge, they split. Giving more to disagree upon. And there is a lot
>of disagreement to whom one should be tolerant or if one should be
>tolerant at all.
Ideologies also split, giving more to disagree upon, and may also lead
to intolerance. So do you also oppose all ideologies?
I don't think your argument is an argument against religion at all, but
just points out the weaknesses of human nature.
>(Big deletion)
>>(2) Do women have souls in Islam?
>>
>>People have said here that some Muslims say that women do not have
>>souls. I must admit I have never heard of such a view being held by
>>Muslims of any era. I have heard of some Christians of some eras
>>holding this viewpoint, but not Muslims. Are you sure you might not be
>>confusing Christian history with Islamic history?
>
>Yes, it is supposed to have been a predominant view in the Turkish
>Caliphate.
I would like a reference if you have got one, for this is news to me.
>>Anyhow, that women are the spiritual equals of men can be clearly shown
>>from many verses of the Qur'an. For example, the Qur'an says:
>>
>>"For Muslim men and women, --
>>for believing men and women,
>>for devout men and women,
>>for true men and women,
>>for men and women who are patient and constant,
>>for men and women who humble themselves,
>>for men and women who give in charity,
>>for men and women who fast (and deny themselves),
>>for men and women who guard their chastity,
>>and for men and women who engage much in God's praise --
>>For them has God prepared forgiveness and a great reward."
>>
>>[Qur'an 33:35, Abdullah Yusuf Ali's translation]
>>
>>There are other quotes too, but I think the above quote shows that men
>>and women are spiritual equals (and thus, that women have souls just as
>>men do) very clearly.
>>
>
>No, it does not. It implies that they have souls, but it does not say they
>have souls. And it is not given that the quote above is given a high
>priority in all interpretations.
One must approach the Qur'an with intelligence. Any thinking approach
to the Qur'an cannot but interpret the above verse and others like it
that women and men are spiritual equals.
I think that the above verse does clearly imply that women have
souls. Does it make any sense for something without a soul to be
forgiven? Or to have a great reward (understood to be in the
after-life)? I think the usual answer would be no -- in which case, the
part saying "For them has God prepared forgiveness and a great reward"
says they have souls.
(If it makes sense to say that things without souls can be forgiven, then
I have no idea _what_ a soul is.)
As for your saying that the quote above may not be given a high priority
in all interpretations, any thinking approach to the Qur'an has to give
all verses of the Qur'an equal priority. That is because, according to
Muslim belief, the _whole_ Qur'an is the revelation of God -- in fact,
denying the truth of any part of the Qur'an is sufficient to be
considered a disbeliever in Islam.
>Quite similar to you other post, even when the Quran does not encourage
>slavery, it is not justified to say that iit forbids or puts an end to
>slavery. It is a non sequitur.
Look, any approach to the Qur'an must be done with intelligence and
thought. It is in this fashion that one can try to understand the
Quran's message. In a book of finite length, it cannot explicitly
answer every question you want to put to it, but through its teachings
it can guide you. I think, however, that women are the spiritual equals
of men is clearly and unambiguously implied in the above verse, and that
since women can clearly be "forgiven" and "rewarded" they _must_ have
souls (from the above verse).
Let's try to understand what the Qur'an is trying to teach, rather than
try to see how many ways it can be misinterpreted by ignoring this
passage or that passage. The misinterpretations of the Qur'an based on
ignoring this verse or that verse are infinite, but the interpretations
fully consistent are more limited. Let's try to discuss these
interpretations consistent with the text rather than how people can
ignore this bit or that bit, for that is just showing how people can try
to twist Islam for their own ends -- something I do not deny -- but
provides no reflection on the true teachings of Islam whatsoever.
Fred Rice
darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
| 0alt.atheism
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nuet_ke@pts.mot.com (KEITH NUETZMAN X3153 P7625) writes:
>I am in hte market for a new bike (been without for a few years).
>The two main bikes I'm looking at seriously are
>The Yamaha Virago 535 and the Honda Shadow VLX 583.
>I am leaning towards the Yamaha for its shaft drive, the Honda is Chain.
>Insurance in Fla. is more costly than I thought, so I am staying in this
>power range. Thanks in advance for any opinions and or experiences
A friend of mine (who's probably reading this right now) just bought a new
Yamaha Virago 750. After spending 1-2 hours very late one chilly evening
watching him struggle with the bolts (had to remove the right peg, loosen
the brake pedal, &c. &c.) I've pretty much decided never to get this
particular model unless he or someone else wants to change the oil/filter
for me. Compared to the 5-minute change he was used to for his Honda, this
is just a design flaw/oversight in my eyes.
Patricia
phj@remus.rutgers.edu
| 8rec.motorcycles
|
In article <1t31meINNrc8@gap.caltech.edu>, madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) writes:
>
> Can someone who knows what they're talking about add a FAQ entry
> on gamma correction? Thanks.
I get regular questions about gamma correction since I go to great pains to
deal with it properly in xli (the image loader program I maintain).
Here is an explanation I often use to answer these questions.
This might be suitable for inclusion in the FAQ.
Graeme Gill.
###########################################################################
"A note on gamma correction and images"
Author: Graeme W. Gill
graeme@labtam.oz.au
Date: 93/5/16
"What is all this gamma stuff anyway ?"
--------------------------------------
Although it would be nice to think that "an image is an image",
there are a lot of complications. Not only are there a whole bunch of
different image formats (gif, jpeg, tiff etc etc), there is a whole
lot of other technical stuff that makes dealing with images a bit
complicated. Gamma is one of those things. If you've ever downloaded
images from BBS or the net, you've probably noticed (with most image
viewing programs) that some images look ok, some look too dark, and some
look too light. "Why is this ?" you may ask. This, is gamma correction
(or the lack of it).
Why do we need gamma correction at all ?
--------------------------------------
Gamma correction is needed because of the nature of CRTs (cathode
ray tubes - the monitors usually used for viewing images). If you
have some sort of real live scene and turn it into a computer
image by measuring the amount of light coming from each point of
the scene, then you have created a "linear" or un-gamma-corrected
image. This is a good thing in many ways because you can manipulate
the image as if the values in the image file were light (ie. adding
and multiplying will work just like real light in the real world).
Now if you take the image file and turn each pixel value into a voltage
and feed it into a CRT, you find that the CRT _doesn't_ give you
an amount of light proportional to the voltage. The amount of light
coming from the phosphor in the screen depends on the the voltage
something like this:
Light_out = voltage ^ crt_gamma
So if you just dump your nice linear image out to a CRT, the image
will look much too dark. To fix this up you have to "gamma correct"
the image first. You need to do the opposite of what the CRT
will do to the image, so that things cancel out, and you get
what you want. So you have to do this to your image:
gamma_corrected_image = image ^ (1/crt_gamma)
For most CRTs, the crt_gamma is somewhere between 1.0 and 3.0.
If that is all it is, why does it seem so complicated ?
-----------------------------------------------------
The problem is that not all display programs do gamma correction.
Also not all sources of images give you linear images (Video cameras
or video signals in general). Because of this, a lot of images
already have some gamma correction done to them, and you are
rarely sure how much. If you try and display one of those images
with a program that does gamma correction for you, the image gets
corrected twice and looks way to light. If you display one of those
images with a program that doesn't do gamma correction, then it will
look vaguely right, but not perfect, because the gamma correction is
not exactly right for you particular CRT.
Whose fault is all this ?
-----------------------
It is really three things. One is all those display programs
out there that don't do gamma correction properly. Another is
that most image formats don't specify a standard gamma, or
don't have some way or recording what their gamma correction is.
The third thing is that not many people understand what gamma
correction is all about, and create a lot of images with varying
gamma's.
At least two file formats do the right thing.
The Utah Graphics Toolkit .rle format has a semi-standard way of recording
the gamma of an image. The JFIF file standard (that uses JPEG compression)
specifies that the image to be encoded must have a gamma of 1.0 (ie. a
linear image - but not everyone obeys the rules).
Some image loaders (for instance xli - an X11 image utility)
allow you to specify not only the gamma of the monitor you
are using, but the individual gamma values of image you are trying to
view. Other image viewers (eg. xv another X11 image program) and
utilities (eg. the pbm toolkit) provide ways of changing the gamma
of an image, but you have to figure out the overall gamma correction
yourself, allowing for undoing any gamma correction the image has,
and then the gamma correction you need to suite your CRT monitor.
[ Note that xv 2.21 doesn't provide an easy way of modifying the
gamma of an image. You need to adjust the R, G and B curves to the
appropriate gamma in the ColEdit controls. Altering the Intensity
in the HSV controls doesn't do the right thing, as it fails to
take account of the effect gamma has on H and S. This tends
to give a tint to the image. ]
How can I figure out what my viewer does, or what gamma my screen has ?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
The simplest way to do that is to try loading the file chkgamma.jpg
(provided with xli distribution), which is a JFIF jpeg format file
containing two grayscale ramps. The ramps are chosen to look linear
to the human eye, one using continuous tones, and the other using
dithering. If your viewer does the right thing and gamma corrects
images, then the two ramps should look symmetrical, and the point
at which they look equally bright should be almost exactly half
way from the top to the bottom. (To find this point it helps if
you move away a little from the screen, and de-focus your eyes a
bit.)
If your viewer doesn't do gamma correction, then left hand ramp will have
a long dark part and a short white part, and the point of equal brightness
will be above the center.
If your viewer does have a way of setting the right amount of gamma correction
for a display, then if the equal brightness point is above center increase the
gamma, and decrease it if it is below the center. The value will usually be
around 2.2
[with xli for instance, you can adjust the display gamma with the
-dispgamma flag, and once you've got it right, you can set the DISPLAY_GAMMA
environment variable in your .profile]
How do I figure out what the gamma of an image is ?
-------------------------------------------------
This is the most tricky bit. As a general rule it seems that a lot of
true color (ie. 24 bit, .ppm .jpg) images have a gamma of
1.0 (linear), although there are many about that have some gamma
correction. It seems that the majority of pseudo color images
(ie. 8 bit images with color maps - .gif etc.) are gamma corrected
to some degree or other.
If your viewer does gamma correction then linear images will
look good, and gamma corrected images will look too light.
If your viewer doesn't do gamma correction, then linear images will
look too dark, and gamma corrected images will ok.
Why Linear images are sometimes not such a good thing
-----------------------------------------------------
One of the reason that many high quality formats (such as
Video) use gamma correction is that it actually makes better
use of the storage medium. This is because the human
eye has a logarithmic response to light, and gamma correction
has a similar compression characteristic. This means images
could make better use of 8 bits per color (for instance),
if they used gamma correction. The implication though, is that
every time you want to do any image processing you should
convert the 8 bit image to 12 or so linear bits to retain
the same accuracy. Since little popular software does this, and
none of the popular image formats can agree on a standard
gamma correction factor, it is difficult to justify gamma corrected
images at the popular level.
If some image formats can standardize on a particular gamma,
and if image manipulation software takes care to use
extra precision when dealing with linearized internal data,
then gamma corrected distribution of images would be a good thing.
(I am told that the Kodak PhotoCD format for instance, has a
standard gamma correction factor that enables it to get the
highest quality out of the bits used to hold the image).
###########################################################################
| 1comp.graphics
|
The Institute for Historical Review is lying again. They have
claimed that this memorial was paid for with taxpayer money. The
memorial was paid for with private donations, not tax money.
| 18talk.politics.misc
|
In article <1993Apr21.120525.1@tesla.njit.edu> drm6640@tesla.njit.edu
writes:
> Overall (career)
> 1. Don Mattingly
> 2. Don Mattingly
> 3. Don Mattingly
> 4. Don Mattingly
> 5. Don Mattingly
> 6. Don Mattingly
> 7. Don Mattingly
> 8. Don Mattingly
> 9. Don Mattingly
> 10. Don Mattingly
> 11. Don Mattingly
> ..
Wanna go to a game sometime?
Jesus christ boy, have you not heard of the real all-time best....STEVE
BALBONI...Now that's Yankee pride.
| 9rec.sport.baseball
|
In article <C5uI6u.Ao0@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jmh@hopper.Virginia.EDU (Jeffrey Hoffmeister) writes:
>In article <1993Apr21.171811.25933@julian.uwo.ca> wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith) writes:
>>
>>In article <66758@mimsy.umd.edu> davew@cs.umd.edu (David G. Wonnacott) writes:
>>>I'm considering switching to Geico insurance, but have heard that
>>>they do not assign a specific agent for each policy or claim. I was
>>>worried that this might be a real pain when you make a claim. I have
>>>also heard that they try to get rid of you if you have an accident.
>>
>>I've read in this group that Geico has funded the purchasing of radar
>>guns by police depts (I'm not sure where).
>
>
>Geico has purchased radar guns in several states, I know they have done
>it here in CT.
>
>I have also heard horror stories about people that have been insured by Geico
>for years and then had 1 accident and were immediately dropped. And once
>you've been dropped by any insruance company you become labled a high
>risk, and end up forking out 3 or 4 times what you should be for insurance.
This must vary from state to state, because our old company Kemper wanted
to drop me (keeping my wife) or tripple our premium because i had 1 ticket.
Only 2 points for 10 mph over speed limit. Well i called Geico, and they
insured both my wife and i for less then we were previously paying
Kemper.
Generally i hate the whole insurance game. I realize that it is necessary
but the way that a person can get dicked around doesn't make any sense.
One good thing about Geico is that everything can be handled over
the phone.
>
>My suggestion, stay where you are, or shop around but STAY AWAY from Geico!
>
>Jeff
>
>
.
/
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---------------- FAHRVERGNUGEN FOREVER! --------------------
The fact that I need to explain it to you indicates
that you probably wouldn't understand anyway!
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| 7rec.autos
|
I've just completed a successful upgrade of a an SI to 27.5 mhz. I'm waiting
on delivery of a 62 mhz clock for a final speed trial. Definitely needed the
heatsink. The CPU was quite hot to the touch at higher speeds until I glued
on a 90 cent Radio Shack sink.
I made a call for reports of failures last week. No reports have arrived
here. Locally, in Seattle there is a reported CPU damage due to the user
slipping with the iron and putting a gash into the board -- not exactly
a problem due to the CPU running too fast.
I think it would be nice to have a poll to report top speeds and system
configurations including PDS and Nubus cards which were used. I'd be happy
to coordinate and report results
Guy Kuo <guykuo@u.washington.edu>
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware
|
A judge denied GM's new trial motion, even though GM says it has two
new witnesses that said the occupant of the truck was dead from the impact, not
from the fire.
Thoughts?
It's kind of scary when you realize that judges are going to start
denying new trials even when new evidence that contradicts the facts that led
to the previous ruling appear.
Or has the judge decided that the new witnesses are not to be believed?
Shouldn't that be up to a jury?
And what about members of the previous jury parading through the talk
shows proclaiming their obvious bias against GM? Shouldn't that be enough for
a judge to through out the old verdict and call for a new trial?
Whatever happened to jurors having to be objective?
Brett
________________________________________________________________________________
"There's nothing so passionate as a vested interest disguised as an
intellectual conviction." Sean O'Casey in _The White Plague_ by Frank Herbert.
| 18talk.politics.misc
|
In article <F2cc3B2w164w@cellar.org> revpk@cellar.org (Brian 'Rev P-K' Siano) writes:
[stuff about mormons & jews deleted]
>And as an agnostic who's slightly aware of the Mormon Wars that Casper
>describes, I'd side with him on this. Not that I support the Koreshians, nor
^^^^^^^^^^
>do I support the Mormons, but in a nasty sense, the major difference is
>this; in 1857, the Mormons kicked the U.S. Army's ass. In 1993, the
>Koreshians died in an inferno. Chances are, if things had turned out a
^^^^^^^^^^
>little differently, we might have Koreshians posting to the Net a hundred
^^^^^^^^^^
>years from now talking about some future, analogous event.
>
A little comment here:
Please DON't use the term "Koreshians" when referring to the Branch Davidians.
The term Koreshians is already being used. It is the name of a now non-exist
'cult' formed in the early part of this centuary by a Cyrus Reed Teed who
renamed himself 'Koresh'. He formed a religious group called the Koreshian
Unity which believed that the Earth was Hollow & WE lived on the inside. The
were formed in Chicago, but left to establish their 'New Jerusalem' in Estero
Florida. The group was fairly successful, but soon died out as they believed
in celebacy. The last member died about 5-10 years ago.
The Koreshian were a pretty intersting group. Today their community is now
a Florida State Historical Site. A local historical group sponsors two
festivals every year their which coinsides with the cult's two festivals.
--
<< Michael Rogero Brown | Any opinions expressed are my >>
<< CS Graduate Student-Florida Atlantic Univ | own, and generally unpopular >>
<< Internet: michaelb@sol.cse.fau.edu | with others. >>
<< BitNet: m_brown@fauvax | Ask me if I care. >>
| 18talk.politics.misc
|
In article <1993Apr15.150550.15347@ecsvax.uncecs.edu> ccreegan@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Charles L. Creegan) writes:
>
>What about Kekule's infamous derivation of the idea of benzene rings
>from a daydream of snakes in the fire biting their tails? Is this
>specific enough to count? Certainly it turns up repeatedly in basic
>phil. of sci. texts as an example of the inventive component of
>hypothesizing.
And has been rather thoroughly demolished as myth by Robert Scott Root-
Bernstein. See his book, "Discovering". Ring structures for benzene
had been proposed before Kekule', after him, and at the same time as him.
The current models do not resemble Kekule's. Many of the predecessors
of Kekule's structure resemble the modern model more.
I don't think "extra-scientific" is a very useful phrase in a discussion
of the boundaries of science, except as a proposed definiens. Extra-rational
is a better phrase. In fact, there are quite a number of well-known cases
of extra-rational considerations driving science in a useful direction.
For example, Pasteur discovered that racemic acid was a mixture of
enantiomers (the origin of stereochemistry) partly because he liked a
friend's crank theory of chemical action. The friend was wrong, but
Pasteur's discovery stood. A prior investigator (Mitscherlich), looking
at the same phenomenon, had missed a crucial detail; presumably because he
lacked Pasteur's motivation to find something that distinguished racemic
acid from tartaric (now we say: d-tartaric) acid.
Again, Pasteur discovered the differential fermentation of enantiomers
(tartaric acid again) not because of some rational conviction, but because
he was trying to produce yeast that lived on l-tartaric acid. His notebooks
contained fantasies of becoming the "Newton of mirror-image life," which
he never admitted publically.
Perhaps the best example is the discovery that DNA carries genes. Avery
started this work because of one of his students, and ardent Anglophile
and Francophobe Canadian, defended Fred Griffiths' discoveries in mice.
Most of Griffiths' critics were French, which decided the issue for the
student. Avery told him to replicate Griffiths' work in vitro, which the
student eventually did, whereupon Avery was convinced and started the
research program which, in 15 or so years, produced the famous discovery
(Avery, MacLeod, and McCarty, JEM 1944).
--
Mark A. Fulk University of Rochester
Computer Science Department fulk@cs.rochester.edu
| 13sci.med
|
In <1993Apr19.193758.12091@unocal.com> stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini) writes:
>Beware. There is only one such *copyrighted* image and the company
>that generated is known to protect that copyright. That image took
>hundreds of man-hours to build from the source satellite images,
>so it is unlikely that competing images will appear soon.
So they should sue the newspaper I got it from for printing it.
The article didn't say anything about copyrights.
Louis
--
I'm hanging on your words, Living on your breath, Feeling with your skin,
Will I always be here? -- In Your Room [ DM ]
| 1comp.graphics
|
Double speed performance from a CD drive does not require SCSI-2 interfacing.
The resultant 300 kbps speed is well within the transfer rate of an LC. In
other words, I believe you have been given incorrect information.
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware
|
In article <steph.735349318@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu> steph@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu
(Dale Stephenson) writes:
>In <C5sysG.KAD@odin.corp.sgi.com> luigi@sgi.com (Randy Palermo) writes:
>
>>In article <13586@news.duke.edu> fierkelab@bchm.biochem.duke.edu (Eric Roush)
writes:
>>Did you see the same game I saw? Gant, most reasonable, argued a
>>horrible call which Hirschbeck, correctly, did nothing about. Gant
>>then proceeded to walk halfway to 3rd base, lean on his bat and
>>glare at Hirschbeck. While I don't necessasarily subscribe to the
>>theory of showing people up, this was an obvious attempt by Gant to
>>do so to Hirschbeck. He left Hirschbeck no choice but to take control
>>of the situation. The bottom line is: Gant started a dangerous
>>power struggle with Hirschbeck when his team needed him most and
>>he lost.
>The events I saw were:
>1) Called strike by Hirschbeck
Was it just me, or did it look like Hirschbeck pointed to
the 3B umpire before calling that strike? I thought that's
why Gant was asking for the appeal to the 1st base umpire;
he thought Hirschbeck had gotten checked-swing help from the wrong
umpire.
>2) Shocked-looking Gant asks for appeal to first
>3) No appeal to first
>4) Gant steps out of batters box.
>5) Hirschbeck *immediately* orders Gant back in. [bad move]
>6) Gant ignores Hirschbeck and walks off. [bad move]
>7) Hirschbeck yells at Gant. Gant is silent.
>8) Hirschbeck calls for the pitch.
After Hirschbeck called for the pitch, but before the pitch was thrown,
Cox came onto the field. It was obvious that he was trying to get time
called before the pitch, but no one was watching.
>9) Pitch is called a strike.
>10) Cox argues (couldn't see when he came on the field)
>11) Cox is ejected, players everywhere
>12) Play finally resumes.
>Gant shouldn't have ignored Hirschbeck. Not returning made the strike
>call fairly likely. Although I suspect an argument might have gotten
>Gant tossed altogether. But if Hirschbeck had let Gant step out, the
>whole incident probably would have been avoided.
Your listing pretty much agreed with what I saw, with the aforementioned
addendums. Perhaps it appeared differently at the ballpark. Personally,
I was amazed that Gant didn't get ejected. But that's why Cox did;
it's called protecting your players.
And to those people who would have thrown everyone out of the game,
all I can say is that you'd be making baseball history. Even in
the worst baseball brawls, usually only the major instigators are
ejected, not everyone who comes onto the field. And I'd have to
say that those brawls are considerably more threatening to the game
than what the Braves did Fri. night.
Anyhow, that's my last two cents on the subject, barring
outrageous postings. I will try to keep my eyes open
for more incidents involving Hirschbeck. I think there will
be some with other teams as well. I hope not.
Eric
| 9rec.sport.baseball
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One way to "mask" the left button check the contents of the XEvent that the
XAddEventHandler send to your event_handling function (in your case, it is the
show_mouse_position function.
If the XEvent arrive in this function as
XEvent p_event;
then, the value of p_event->xbutton.button is the button that was pressed. So,
you just do a switch on that value in order to distinguish between them. In case
it was not clear p_event->xevent.button is an int.
By the way, you mentioned the Button1MotionMask and if anyone can help me with
these MotionMasks I would be grateful. I can not figure out how do distinguish
between motions by which button is pressed as the motion is occurring. In
essence I would like an seperate event-handler for motion with each button.
Unfortunately, the XEvent sent by a MotionMask does not seem to contain the
value of the pressed button.
Any ideas,
eps
| 5comp.windows.x
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Does XDM work with DECnet? I have an Ultrix machine running both TCP/IP
and DECnet. I have a number of X-terminals hanging off the Ultrix host also
running TCP/IP and DECnet. Presently I am using XDM for the login procedure
on the X-terminals using TCP/IP. Since XDM is basically just an X-windows
client, shouldn't I be able to run XDM on the DECnet protocol tower as well?
My first inclination is that XDM is not your typical X client. It is making
TCP/IP specific socket calls. In this case the answer would be no; you can
not run XDM over DECnet. Is this right or not? Any feedback is appreciated.
Thanks.
| 5comp.windows.x
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Jon Livesey writes:
>So when they took the time to *copy* *the* *text* correctly, that includes
>"obvious corruptions?"
Well, yes. This is the real mystery of the matter, and why I am rather
dubious of a lot of the source theories.
There are a number of places where the Masoretic Text (MT) of the OT is
obscure and presumably corrupted. These are reproduced exactly from copy to
copy. The DSS tend to reflect the same "errors". This would appear to tell
us that, at least from some point, people began to copy the texts very
exactingly and mechanically. The problem is, we don't know what they did
before that. But it seems as though accurate transmission begins at the
point at which the texts are perceived as texts. They may be added to (and
in some situations, such as the end of Mark, material is lost), but for the
most part there are no substantial changes to the existing text.
You're basically trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. Some people
like to use the game of "telephone" as a metaphor for the transmission of
the texts. This clearly wrong. The texts are transmitted accurately.
--
C. Wingate + "The peace of God, it is no peace,
+ but strife closed in the sod.
mangoe@cs.umd.edu + Yet, brothers, pray for but one thing:
tove!mangoe + the marv'lous peace of God."
| 0alt.atheism
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In article <93108.025818U28037@uicvm.uic.edu>, Jason Kratz <U28037@uicvm.uic.edu> writes...
>I have heard many opinions on this subject and would like to hear more from
>the people on the net.
>
>Say you're in a situation where you have to pull a gun on somebody. You
>give them a chance to get away but they decided to continue in their
>action anyway and you end up shooting and killing them. My question is
>what do you do? Should you stay and wait for the cops or should you
>collect your brass (if you're using a semi-auto) and get out of there
>(provided of course you don't think that you have been seen)? What kind
>of laws are on the books regarding this type of situation? What would
>be the most likely thing to happen to you if you stayed and waited and
>it was a first offense? What would happen if you took off but someone
>saw you and you were caught?
>
>Anyone?
>
>
>Jason - u28037@uicvm.cc.uic.edu
If in said situation. I would, reviewing other cases I've seen reported
on in the articles I've read etc.., suggest the safest legal course of action
is as follows. Warn your assailant loudly and in clear tones that you have a
weapon(Yes!Even though it's blatantly obvious now that you have it out!)
and that you will shoot him if he advances/does not cease whatever hostile
action he is currently involved in.( ie: Drop the knife or I'll shoot!)
Repeat this process three times,if you can!(not if he's pointing a freaking
gun at you himself!That's kinda impractical.) (There are variables here and
I will try to address them in turn) After said warning (considering it's
ignored) Aim center mass and fire until he drops! This is not sadism, it's
practicality.If he hasn't gone down he's still a threat!(Why I support .45)
IF HE TURNS AND RUNS DO NOT PURSUE OR FIRE AT HIS BACK! SHOT'S FIRED IN ANGER
WILL BURN YOU LATER! (Though in some cases the I can see where that might not
bother me all that much!) If you do drop him! REMAIN WHERE YOU ARE! Have a
Bystander or witness(Or Create one by yelling at the top of your lungs!)
call the police, and wait! Reholster your weapon VISIBLY! Or place it on
the ground nearby. Do not attempt to recollect your brass.The police will
use it's location to piece together the scene along with your testimony and
that of any witnesses. Mentally mark witnesses! If the police say that none
came forward let them know who you saw! Attempt to keep your weapon loaded
with the minimum required(how the hell can I phrase this?) Try to avoid special
purpose ammunition. Hollow points and Hydrashock rounds give the opposing
lawyer the type of loaded phrasing he will need to sawy the jury that you
fully intended to kill someone! The only special purpose rounds that I can
think of that would actually help your case (as it has in several) is the
Glaser Safety Slug (oh what a lovely name SAFETY SLUG) The stated purpose
and stated design parameters of the round are life savers in court.
(ie. Attempting to create a bullet which will not overpenetrate, not
ricochette, and which is designed to STOP (Not Kill (Gee, to bad the two often
cross, damn I'm real sorry that rapist is dead! NOT!) an assailant with
one shot. This, again, can be a real life saver in a hostile court.
Be as cooperative with the police as possible! Show them where you were.
Repeat your information as often as requested. They will often ask you the
same questions over and over to verify facts, and ,unfortunately, to see
if your lying. Fill out all statements and show all required identification
and weapon permits (BOOO! Down with registered citizens!Register your
politicians as deadly tax weapons needing to be confiscated!) If they are
required in your state. Contact a lawyer immediately if they decide to
hold you or that further questioning is needed. If you cannot afford one,
contact the NRA. They have a legal assistance fund.(Or at least they used to)
I DO HOPE YOUR A MEMBER! (Not my business either way though..) If I was
vague on anything, or I left some questions unanswered, you can E-MAIL
me or post here. (Preferebly E-MAIL. I don't have a load of time to review
the news)
Kane
******************************************************************************
*A truely representative government need never fear it's armed citizens! *
*Disband the BATF! Bankrupt Ted Turner and HCI! *
*I will give up my gun when they pry it out of my cold,dead hand! *
*DEATH TO TYRANTS! [THIS SPACE FOR RENT!] *
* *
* Kane DJH4484@RIGEL.TAMU.EDU *
******************************************************************************
| 16talk.politics.guns
|
In <C60y12.E9J@panix.com> mls@panix.com (Michael Siemon) writes:
>In <1993Apr24.214843.10940@midway.uchicago.edu> eeb1@quads.uchicago.edu
>(E. Elizabeth Bartley) writes:
>>I can certainly see opposing the "Amen" -- but that doesn't require
>>opposing a moment of silence.
>If the ONLY people proposing a "moment of silence" are doing so as a
>sham to sneak in prayers, then it MUST be opposed. What the HELL have
>prayers to do with public schooling? [I ask this question as a devout
>Christian.]
Uh oh, Michael; you typed "hell" and capitalized it to boot! Now
Peter Nyikos will explain that you're not a real Christian!
>>>I'll back off when they do.
>>Does anybody else besides me see a vicious circle here? I guarantee
>>you the people who want school prayer aren't going to back off when
>>they can't even manage to get a quiet moment for their kids to pray
>>silently.
>Their kids can bloody-well pray any God-damned time they WANT to. And
>nothing, on heaven or earth, in government or the principal's office,
>can prevent or in any other way deal with their doing so. *Especially*
>if the prayer is silent (as bursting out into the "Shema Yisrael" or
>some other prayer *might* be construed as disruptive if audible :-))
>No one ever prevented ME from praying in public school! They hardly
>even prevented me from masturbating in study hall.
BZZT! Sorry Michael--the Nyikos Inquisition pointed out that I was
hell-bound after one mildly scurrilous pun on "revealing oneself."
Admitting to masturbation--well, I'm just shocked!
mp
| 19talk.religion.misc
|
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fields@cis.ohio-state.edu
| 6misc.forsale
|
From article <1993May1.092058.1@aurora.alaska.edu>, by pstlb@aurora.alaska.edu:
>
> I put it to you thus: Where HAS the hacker ethic gone? If it still exists,
> where? And, if it DOES exist, why are those who call themselves "hackers"
> allowing this to perpetuate itself? Why are they not creating new, innovative,
> interesting ideas to stop the SOS from maintaining its choke hold on the
> computer industry?
Since this was posted on comp.ai, I assume there is an AI angle to this. Hacking is
what AI students do when they're really supposed to be doing something else, e.g.
thesis research & write up, getting their supervisors' pet programs to run properly,
etc. No-one gets much glory for hacking, and no-one gets any money out of it.
Producing good free software requires an enormous investment of time & resources that
not many people can, or want to, afford - particularly during a recession.
In addition, over the last 10 years, I think there has been a de-emphasis on producing
running programs in AI research, and a greater emphasis on more formal approaches to
problem-solving. Students have been proving theorems instead of writing programs.
At a conference a year or two ago, Johann de Kleer suggested that everyone should
'Get back to the keyboard' and write more programs that demonstrate their ideas -
and I have to say I'm inclined to agree.
(I don't claim to be a superhacker, but I don't think that invalidates my remarks.
And I'm sure this isn't the whole story.)
--
Peter Jackson, Dept of Electrical & Computer Eng, Clarkson University
"Opinions expressed are not those of my employer or any other organization"
Second Violin, Fiddling Firefighters Ensemble (Rome Branch)
| 1comp.graphics
|
Kevin Kimmell - Computer Science/German Undergrad (ke_kimmell@vax.cns.muskingum.edu) wrote:
:
: I am interrested in the extrodinarily simple concept of the null modem
: cable. (Actually I have NO idea, so don't count that last statement.) What I'm
: asking is what pins does it use (or what are it's specifications?) I just want
: to solder one myself instead of buying one. I don't even know what port is
: used.
:
: Help me please (at ke_kimmell@vax.cns.muskingum.edu)
:
: Kevin
:
: p.s. I'm intending to use the cable for PC-to-PC transfers (via Lap-Link or
: Telix. Ideas and info gladly accepted.)
I do not have specific knowledge of Lap-Link or Telix, but my recommendation
for ANY package is to follow each one's instructions for making the null-
modem cable. The reason is that each one may be different since there isn't
really a standard for PC to PC communications. The following is a tutorial
I wrote up that will give you an understanding about RS-232 and null modems,
but you should still check your software!
I will eplain a couple of details of RS-232. RS-232 is
a commumications specification for communicating between a computer and a
modem. Actually it can be between any end system and any communications
hardware. The terminology used is Data Terminal Equipment (DTE) and DATA
Communications Equipment (DCE). RS-232 spells out the voltage levels, the
connector type, the pinouts, and the signal protocols. The connector is
a "DB-25" but IBM has set an alternative "standard" of DB-9. The primary
signals are Transmit Data (TD), Recieve Data (RD), and Signal Ground (SG).
There are other signals that provide control between the DTE and the DCE.
For example, the DTE announces that it is powered up and ready to participate
in communications via the Data Terminal Ready (DTR) signal. DTR is an
output on the DTE and an input on the DCE. Similarly, the DCE announces that
it is ready to participate in communications via the Data Set Ready (DSR)
signal. DSR is an input on the DTE and an output on the DCE. Ok that's
five signals; there are only four more of interest. The Request To Send (RTS)
signal is an output from the DTE (and an input to the DCE) that is used
to ask the DCE permission to send data. If the DCE agrees, it sends an ok
via the Clear To Send (CTS) signal. (For completeness, the CTS is an input
to the DTE and an output from the DCE). The other two signals (of interest)
are Ring Indicator (RI) and Data Carrier Detect (DCD). These are both inputs
to the DTE and outputs from the DCE. RI is just what you would expect -
a signal to the DTE saying that someone is attempting to establish a connection
to the DCE. This is rather specific to the modem / telephone line setup.
DCD is a way for the DCE to announce that the "connection" has been established
i.e. the local DCE is talking to some remote DCE. There - that's it. Oh
there are many other RS-232 signals defined, but they are obsolete. I have
explained the nine signals that are on a PC. The pinouts are as follows:
Name DB-9 DB-25
SG 5 7
TD 3 2
RD 2 3
DTR 4 20
DSR 6 6
DCD 1 8
RTS 7 4
CTS 8 5
RI 9 22
Now to address your problem at hand. When you connect a PC to a PC (a DTE
to a DTE), there is no DCE pair in the middle and therefore the RS-232
signal definitions don't work out quite right. There is no DCE to assert
the CTS, DSR, DCD, or RI. So the common thing to do is to not use these
signals at all - and also forget about the DTR and RTS outputs as well. If
this is done you simply make a null modem (a cable) that passes through SG,
and crosses TD and RD (i.e. pin 2 of one end connects to pin 3 at the other
end, etc). The problem with this solution is that a PC that wants to send
data has no way of knowing if the other PC is ready. It would have to just
send the data and hope it got through. Therefore a better null modem would
include the DTR/DSR pair crossed. A particular point a confusion is in the
software area. Just because you run the wires does not mean that the soft-
ware will use them. If you are using the built-in BIOS to control the
serial port, then the BIOS dictates what wires you need and how they are to
be used. But if you have a comm. package such as Brooklyn Bridge, or Lap-
Link or Telix, then those packages dictate the cabling requirements. The
only thing you can guess reliably is the SG, TD, and RD. The DTR/DSR is also
fairly common. There is one more issue that needs to be addressed here. And
that is flow control. In the RS-232 scenerio, the DCE's are responsible for
flow control and it is assumed that the DCE couldn't possible over-run the
DTE. By this I mean that as long as the DTE has its DTR line asserted, the
DCE will send data - without requesting permission first. Note the contrast
to the other direction of data flow: the DTE must request permission by
asserting the RTS line and it must wait for the CTS signal before it can
send. And now in the DTE to DTE scenerio, the question is do you need flow
control? The answser is usually. But how? For non-binary communications,
one common technique is XON - XOFF which is implemented in software - no
wires are dedicated to flow control; the TD and RD carry the XON and XOFF
commands. This type of flow control can be used in addition to hardware
flow control, but the problem is that you can't send binary data because
your data might include the XON or XOFF codes and cause erroneous conrol
signals. (A work around is to have the software insert and extract "escape"
codes, but the hardware flow control is prefered). The problem with hard-
ware flow control is that there is no standard. There are lots of ways to
do it and I bet they have all been tried. One cornerstone of all the methods
is to use the RTS/CTS for one direction. But beyond that anything is fair
game. Again, you must look to you comm package for cabling requirements.
But I bet you'll find that one cable (if wired properly) could work with
all of the packages as long as they are of the same vintage. By the way,
I am familiar with one package that uses RTS/CTS and DTR/DSR for flow control
the RTS is request to send and the DTR is ready to recieve, the CTS is the
clear to send and the DSR is the request to recieve. This does not mean a
differnt cable - it is just software. The clincher to all of this cabling
stuff is that it is common to have the UART directly controlled by the CTS
signal which means that the CTS must be present even if you are not support-
ing it in software. For these cases you will find cables that short the
RTS to the CTS at the same end (or perhaps the DTR to the CTS). Other
possible shorting might be done just because the software expects certain
signals that you don't have (or don't feel like providing because it would
mean additional wires). Specifically I am talking about the DSR. Shorting
the DTR to the DSR is not a good idea in general but you may find cables like
this. It is a bad idea because it defeats the whole purpose. One more
"gotcha" signal is the DCD. Some software (including the PC BIOS) expects to
see the DCD before it will work. This signal sometimes gets shorted with the
DTR. But my favorite null modem has the RTS and CTS shorted at each end, but
the RTS is also connected through to the other end and connected to DCD. And
of course the DTR/DSR are crossed as are the TD/RD and of course the SG must
pass through. This null modem works with most software. The flow control,
if any, can use the RTS/DCD with the DTR/DSR. If your comm. package does not
specify the cable required for PC to PC connection, then I suggest you use
this one.
TD ------ RD
RD ------ TD
DTR ------ DSR
DSR ------ DTR
DCD ------ RTS-\
/-RTS ------ DCD |
\-CTS CTS-/
Gordon Lang
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
|
In light of my recent paranoia concerning government proposals, I'd love to
see a UNIX-based encryption scheme that:
1) Kept some files encrypted on the host machine (say, all the files in your
home directory)
2) Used a key system that could not be compromised by eavesdropping over a
modem line.
It seems that this would require modifications to a shell program and a
way of telling whether a file was encrypted or not, among other things.
I'd love to know about potential security holes in such a system.
Does such a system exist? If it were made easy-to-use and readily
available, I think it would be a Good Thing(tm). I realize that this
would probably just involve putting a nice front-end on a readily available
and very secure encryption scheme, but it should be done.
Thanks for the ear,
Brad
| 11sci.crypt
|
TO: saz@hook.corp.mot.com
SZ>Does anybody know of a program that converts .GIF files to .BMP files
SZ>and if so, where can I ftp it from? Any help would be greatly
SZ>appreciated.
Sure... A GREAT shareware program is Graphic Workshop (the newest
version is 6.1). Although I don't know where you can ftp it from. It
also converts to about 15 other formats, and does MANY other things.
....r.c V.t.ell. .r...
---
. DeLuxe./386 1.25 #959sa . My Address: eric.vitiello@tfd.coplex.com
| 1comp.graphics
|
In article <1993May1.051312.1@aurora.alaska.edu> nsmca@aurora.alaska.edu writes:
>Getting wierd again?
Or perhaps even weird?
>Okay we have figure out that a mission specifically to Pluto is to large and to
>expensive..
Hmmm, you might want to read this group more carefully; there's been a good
amount of discussion of the proposed Pluto Fast Flyby (PFF) mission that is
specifically designed to be small and cheap.
--
Matthew DeLuca
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!matthew
Internet: matthew@phantom.gatech.edu
| 14sci.space
|
#
# A S T R O - F T P L I S T
# Updated 28.04.1993
#
# This is a short description of anonymous-ftp file servers containing
# astronomy and space research related material. I have included only those
# servers where there are special subdirectories for astro stuff or much
# material included into a general directories. This list is not a complete
# data set of possible places, so I would be very happy of all kind of notices
# and information depending on this listing.
#
# The newest version of this file is available via anonymous-ftp as:
#
# nic.funet.fi:/pub/astro/general/astroftp.txt
#
# There are also many mirror (copy) archives for simtel-20.army.mil (PC) and
# sumex-aim.stanford.edu (Mac) which are not included into this list. Only some
# of mirroring sites are listed.
#
#
# Veikko Makela
# Veikko.Makela@Helsinki.FI
# *Computing Centre of Univ. Helsinki*
# *Ursa Astronomical Association*
# Server, IP # Contents
# Directories
ames.arc.nasa.gov Spacecraf data and news,images,NASA data,
128.102.18.3 Spacelink texts,VICAR software,FAQ
/pub/SPACE
arp.anu.edu.au Images
130.56.4.90
/pub/images/nasa
atari.archive.umich.edu Atari
141.211.164.8
/atari/applications/astronomy
archive.afit.af.mil Satellite software,documents,elements
129.92.1.66
/pub/space
baboon.cv.nrao.edu AIPS document and patches,radioastronomy
192.33.115.103 image processing,FITS test images
/pub/aips
c.scs.uiuc.edu ROSAT,Starchart(PC)
128.174.90.3
/pub
ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz PC
130.216.1.5
/msdos/astronomy (*) overseas connections refused
chara.gsu.edu Electronical Journal of ASA, Journal of
131.96.5.10 ASA, SAC news
/
explorer.arc.nasa.gov Magellan, Viking and Voyager CDROMs
128.102.32.18
/cdrom
export.lcs.mit.edu XEphem distribution
18.24.0.12
/contrib/xephem
epona.physics.ucg.ie Some software, predictions, images,
140.203.1.3 FITS info, miscellaneous
/pub/astro
/pub/space
/pub/fits
fits.cv.nrao.edu FITS documents, OS support, sample data,
192.33.115.8 test files, sci.astro.fits archive
/FITS
ftp.cicb.fr Images
129.20.128.27
/pub/Images/ASTRO
ftp.cco.caltech.edu Astronomy magazine index 1991
131.215.48.200
/pub/misc
ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de PC,Amiga,Mac,Unix,images,general
130.149.17.7
/pub/astro
ftp.funet.fi PC,Mac,CP/M,Atari,Amiga,databases,Unix,
128.214.6.100 HP48,OS/2,texts,News,solar reports,images,
/pub/astro Satellite elements,FAQ
ftp.uni-kl.de iauc,Vista image reduction,asteroids
131.246.9.95
/pub/astro
garbo.uwasa.fi PC
128.214.87.1
/pc/astronomy
gipsy.vmars.tuwien.ac.at images
128.130.39.16
/pub/spacegifs
hanauma.stanford.edu Unix, satellite program, images
36.51.0.16
/pub/astro
/pub/astropix
hysky1.stmarys.ca ECU distribution
140.184.1.1
/pcstuff
idlastro.gsfc.nasa.gov IDL routines
128.183.57.82
/
iraf.noao.edu IRAF Software
140.252.1.1
/iraf
julius.cs.qub.ac.uk Space Digest
143.117.5.6
/pub/SpaceDigestArchive
rata.vuw.ac.nz Astrophysical software
130.195.2.11
/pub/astrophys
kilroy.jpl.nasa.gov Satellite elements,spacecraft info
128.149.1.165
/pub/space
ns3.hq.eso.org Test images, Standards
134.171.11.4
/pub/testimages
/pub/standards
nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov HST,IUE,Astro-1,NSSDCA info,Spacewarn,
128.183.36.23 FITS standard
/
plaza.aarnet.edu.au images,docs,Magellan
139.130.4.6
/graphics/graphics/astro
/magellan
pomona.claremont.edu Yale Bright Star Catalog
134.173.4.160
/YALE_BSC
pubinfo.jpl.nasa.gov JPL news, status reports, images
128.149.6.2
/
ra.nrl.navy.mil Mac
128.60.0.21
/MacSciTech/astro
rascal.ics.utexas.edu Mac
128.83.138.20
/mac
rigel.acs.oakland.edu PC
141.210.10.117
/pub/msdos/astronomy
rusmv1.rus.uni-stuttgart.de Atari
129.69.1.12
/soft/atari/applications/astronomy
simtel20.army.mil PC,CP/M
192.88.110.20
/msdos/educ
/cpm
sol.deakin.oz.au garbo.uwasa.fi c.
128.184.1.1
/pub/PC/chyde/astronomy
solbourne.solbourne.com some PC programs
141.138.2.2
/pub/rp/as-is/astro
stardent.arc.nasa.gov Martian map
128.102.21.44
/pub
stsci.edu HSTMap(Mac),HST info
130.167.1.2
/Software
sumex.stanford.edu Mac
36.44.0.6
/info-mac/app
sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de PC,misc
129.206.100.126
/pub/msdos/astronomy
techreports.larc.nasa.gov NASA Langley technical reports
128.155.3.58
/pub/techreports/larc
tetra.gsfc.nasa.gov FITSIO subroutines
128.183.8.77
/pub
unbmvs1.csd.unb.ca Space geodesy,solar activity info
131.202.1.2
pub.canspace
vmd.cso.uiuc.edu Weather satellite images
128.174.5.98
/wx
world.std.com PC; source codes
192.74.137.5
/pub/astronomy
xi.uleth.ca Solar reports,auroral activity forecast
142.66.3.29 maps,solar images,x-ray plot,coronal
/pub/solar emission plots
# Some abbreviations:
#
# c = copy (mirror) of other archive
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# My other e-communication projects:
# * E-mail contact addresses of interest groups in amateur astronomy
# * European astronomy and space-related bulletin boards
# * E-mail catalogue of Finnish amateur astronomers
| 14sci.space
|
From article <ardie.313.736188058@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, by ardie@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Ardie Mack):
>>On my PC I almost exclusively run windows. The only dos based application
>>I have is ProcommPlus. In my config.sys I have emm386 loaded with the
>>option noems (no expanded memory). Following a thread in one of the comp
>>newsgroups, I read that it was no necessary to have emm386 loaded. Indeed,
>
> emm386 noems enables the system to use the "upper memory" between 640 and
> 1024. That's a good place for device drivers, DOS kernal, etc.
> (Keep it in!)
EMM386 is NOT reqired to load the DOS kernal high (or else you couldn't
do it on a 286). In a mail message I recommended that he remove it
since he only runs ProcomPlus frequently in DOS, and I suspect
EMM386 will slow down windows.
-Charles A.
CBALLEN@CLEMSON.EDU
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
|
Well, I dropped by the library yesterday, and picked up back copies
of the National Crime Survey (1986-1990) in an effort to examine what
it said about self-defense with a firearm.
I haven't ground through much in the way of numbers yet, but a couple
of things jumped out at me. First only 1986 and 1987 specify the type of
weapon used in self defense. 1988, 1989, and 1990 refer only to "weapon."
The second is that while assaults rose about 3% from 1986 to 1987, w/gun
defenses reported *fell* by almost 25%. Unless there's an explanation for
this, I'm tempted to mark it as a reporting problem, and as such going
ahead with any examination of the numbers would be a waste of time.
Anybody have an idea what might have cause a real difference, and
not just a reporting difference? The survey doesn't appear to have
changed significantly between 1986 and 1987.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
David Veal Univ. of Tenn. Div. of Cont. Education Info. Services Group
PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu
| 16talk.politics.guns
|
Hi:
I am looking for tires. I would like to hear your experience on the
BF Goodrich Radial T/A tires and/or the Touring T/A especially for
size P185/70R13.
For Radial T/A: How do they do in SNOW, and WET weather? Are they quiet tires?
For Touring T/A: How many miles can they last? I believe they are in
every way equal/better than Radial T/A. Am I right?
-Chan.
| 7rec.autos
|
In article <C5r7Ey.7Mq@srgenprp.sr.hp.com> blaisec@sr.hp.com (Blaise Cirelli) writes:
>
>So the question I have is "HOW DANGEROUS IS RIDING"?
Tough question -- more dangerous than driving a car, and far more
dangerous if you don't apply a modicum of intelligence to the
activity. Basically, stupidity will get you hurt/killed a lot
faster on a motorcycle than in a car. But with care, it is
not unreasonably dangerous. Also, buying good protective
clothing is helpful, that way if something does go wrong,
you are likely to be less severely injured.
First thing, if possible take a (MSF) driver training course,
this will get you started on the right foot -- they teach
control of the vehicle and safe riding practices.
Second, buy protective gear. At minimum a good helmet
and a pair of leather gloves are a must. A good sturdy
piece of footgear is also very helpful, though leather hiking
boots, a pair of old army boots, or something similar works fine
for this purpose as long as you make sure the laces stay
tied. After those, a leather jacket and leather pants or chaps
are nice as well; but these are also expensive items. For the
pants, many people consider a good pair of jeans to be reasonable,
preferably recent and of a fairly heavy weight. Similarly for
a jacket, a good jean jacket is a reasonable compromise, though
more people tend to have leather jackets around than pants. Another
thing to do is drop in on garage sales looking for a second-hand
leather jacket. Look for a fairly thick leather in these items.
Third don't do anything stupid -- don't ride after
drinking, even one drink can noticeably affect you judgement
and balance; don't ride in the snow, or when conditions
are such that black ice is likely; be very careful riding
in the rain -- slow way down, take corners gingerly,
brake early and gently; try not to ride if you are sick,
tired, taking any medication with drowsiness warnings, or
otherwise not in average shape.
With care, you should be ok.
>The next question I have is what bike would you recommend for
>a first time rider. I don't want to race; nor do I want to
>ride cross country; nor do I want to ride on dirt trails. I'll
>probably drive it on back roads with occasional rides on city
>streets and freeways. The maximum I can spend is about $2500 so
>I'll be looking at a used bike.
I would suggest mid to late 80's japanese mid-sized standard.
Something in 400-650 cc range would probably be reasonable. If
you are shorter/lighter than average, you might want to go as
low as a 300-400 cc bike.
Possible models:
The Suzuki GS### series (eg. GS500, GS650, etc.). These are generally
inline 4 bikes, generally dependable except for a tendency to
weakness in the charging system. (Stator and/or Regulator/Rectifier
problems.) My first bike was a (about '82) GS650, it server me well.
The Honda Nighthawk series (this may also be known as the CB### series
I think). eg. Honda CB450, CB650, etc. This is another series of
standard motorcycles. Also fairly dependable.
Kawasaki and Yamaha probably have similar bikes, but I don't know
them as well.
For mid to late '80s models of the above, you should be able to
buy the bike for under $2000, leaving you money for protective
clothing and insurance and licensing costs.
Hope this helps,
-David
(dagibbs@qnx.com)
| 8rec.motorcycles
|
Reply address: mark.prado@permanet.org
If anyone knows anyone else who would like to get sci.space,
but doesn't have an Internet feed (or has a cryptic Internet
feed), I would be willing to feed it to them. I have a nice
offline message reader/editor, an automated modem "mailer"
program which will pick up mail bundles (quickly and easily),
and an INSTALL.EXE to set them up painlessly. No charge for
the sci.space feed, though you have to dial Washington, D.C.
This is NOT a BBS -- it's a store & forward system for mail
bundles, with minimum connect times. (I'm used to overseas
calls.) (This is not an offer for a free feed for any other
particular newsgroups.) Speeds of up to 14400 (v32bis) are
supported. VIP's might be offered other free services, such
as Internet address and other functionality.
I get my feed from UUNET and run a 4-line hub. I've been
hubbing for years -- I have an extremely reliable hub.
The software I provide runs under MS-DOS (and OS/2 and Windows
as a DOS box). Other, compatible software packages exist for
the MacIntosh and Unix.
Any responses should be private and go to:
mark.prado@permanet.org
(By the way, to all, my apologies for the public traffic on my
glib question. I really didn't expect public replys. But thanks
to Bill Higgins for the interesting statistics and the lead.)
* Origin: PerManNet FTSC <=> Internet gateway (1:109/349.2)
| 14sci.space
|
Acorn Software, Inc. has 3 tape drives (currently used on a VMS
system) for sale. These are all SCSI tape drives and are in
working condition.
WangDat 1300 4mm $500.00
WangDat 2600 4mm (compression) $650.00
Exabyte 8200 8mm $650.00
Plus shipping and COD. Certified checks only, please. These
units are sold as is and without warrantee. Contact me if you're
interested.
--
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267 Cox St. Office: (508) 568-1618
Hudson, Ma. FAX: (508) 562-1133
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| 6misc.forsale
|
Perry E. Metzger (pmetzger@snark.shearson.com) wrote:
: Here is a disturbing thought.
....good stuff elided....
: Don't pretend that no one unauthorized will ever get their hands on
: the escrow databases.
:
.......
: secret. The escrow databases aren't the sorts of secrets that our
: teachers told us about, but they are the sort of big secrets they
: would lump into this category. Imagine trying to replace 100 million
: Clipper chips.
Sounds to me like a *great* gimmick for a replacement market...every
so often issue a "Clipper Alert" announcing that some key backup tapes
are missing, that some Drug Lords got 'em, whatever. Then the owners
of these $1200 Clipperphones have to trot down to their local Key
Escrow Agency and buy new chips and have them programmed.
Microtoxin, the Clipper supplier, will make a killing...maybe this was
the real idea. (Anybody know if Janet Reno has stock in Microtoxin,
VLSI Technology, or AT&T?)
Could be a good opportunity to undermine this with some
disinformation: float rumors that the key database has been stolen.
All the chips need replacing. It angers people, undermines confidence
even more, and kills sales.
After the Waco Massacre and the Big Brother Wiretap Chip, any tactic
is fair.
-Tim May
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tcmay@netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero
408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets,
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Higher Power: 2^756839 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available.
| 11sci.crypt
|
Recently I've come upon a body of literature which promotes colon
cleansing as a vital aid to preventive medicine through nutrition. In
particular, Dr. Bernard Jenssen in his book "Colon Cleansing for
Health and Longevity" -- the title actually escapes me, but it is very
similar to that -- claims that regular self-administered colonics,
along with certain orally ingested "debris-loosening agents", boosts
the immune system to a significant degree.
He also plugs a unique appliance called the "Colema Board", which
facilitates the self-administration of colonics. It sells for over
$100 from a California-based company. He also plugs Vitra-Tox
products as his chemical agents of choice: these include volcanic ash,
supposedly for its electrical charge, and psyllium powder, for its
bulkiness.
If anyone knows anything about colon cleansing theory, its
particulars, or the Colema Board and related products, I'd be very
interested to hear about research and personal experience.
This article is crossposted to alt.magick as the issue touches upon
fasting and cleansing through a "ritual" system of purification.
-- Eli
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| 13sci.med
|
In article <1993Apr23.121140.8913@desire.wright.edu> demon@desire.wright.edu (Not a Boomer) writes:
> Cancel private health insurance?
>
> When government care that only covers 20% of the population consumes
>42% of the spending for health care?
>
> NOT!
>
> National Health Expenditures: 1960 to 1990
>(Includes Puerto Rico and outlying areas.)
>
>Year Health Services and Supplies ($billions)
> Private Public
>====================================
>1960 $19.8 $5.7 (22% of total)
>1970 $44.1 $24.9 (56% of total)
>1980 $140.7 $98.1 (41% of total)
>1990 $374.8 $268.6 (42% of total)
>
>[Source: American Almanac, Page 97. 1992-3 Edition]
>
> Now you understand where most of that 12.2% of GNP is going--to waste.
>
> By these figures, private insurance is spending 58% of the money to
>cover 4 times as many people.
>
> Go figure.
>
The private insurance industry skims the cream off the milk...simple.
Gerald
| 18talk.politics.misc
|
And do not set your heart on what you will eat or drink; do not worry about it.
Luke 12:29
| 15soc.religion.christian
|
In article <1993Apr21.231552.24869@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>,
brian@lpl.arizona.edu (Brian Ceccarelli 602/621-9615) wrote:
> Kent, I am not accusing you of evil things. Jesus is accusing you.
> And it is not only you that He is accusing. He is accusing everyone.
> Me, you and everyone in the world is guilty. Whether one
> sees the light or does not seen the light has nothing to do with
> whether we do evil things. We do them regardless.
Hmm, it seems that this is the core of Christianity then, you
have to feel guilty, and then there's this single personality
that will save you from this universal guilt feeling.
Brian, I will tell you a secret, I don't feel guilty at all,
I do mistakes, and I regret them, however I've never had this
huge guilt feeling hanging over my shoulder.
If things happen wrong, I will try to learn from the mistakes
and go on.
This all is a very clear indication that you need a certain
personality type in order to believe and adjust to certain
religious doctrines. And if your personality type is
opposite, then you are not that easily attached to a certain
world view system.
> So do you see Jesus's point? Christians are not perfect. Nonchristians
> are not perfect. Nonchristians do not want to come into the
> Light of Jesus because they will see all the problems in their lives,
> and they will not like the sight. It is an ugly thing to see how far
> we have fallen from Jesus's perspective. Do you think you want to
> know how really ignorant you are? Do you think Brian Kendig wants
> to know? Do you think I want to know? Ego verses the truth,
> which do you choose?
All I know is that I don't know everything. And frankly speaking
I don't care, life is fun anyway. I recognize that I'm not
perfect, but that does not hinder me from have a healthy
and inspiring life.
There are humans that subscribe to the same notion. The nice
thing is that when you finally shake off this huge burden,
the shoulders feel far more relaxed!
Cheers,
Kent
---
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| 19talk.religion.misc
|
> In article <C5uA7r.DAD@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com>,
pprun@august.it.uswc.uswe
> >
> > Would someone please post the generic addresses for Congress and
> > Senate so that we can all write letters?
Unites States Senate
Washington, D.C. 20510
The House of Representatives
Washington, D.C. 20515
The White House
Washington, D.C. 20500
-Seth
__________________________________________________________________________
[unlike cats] dogs NEVER scratch you when you wash them. They just
become very sad and try to figure out what they did wrong. -Dave Barry
Seth Eliot Dept of Material Science and Engineering
Carnegie Mellon Univerity, Pittsburgh, PA
ARPA :eliot+@cmu.edu |------------------------------------------
or se08+@andrew.cmu.edu |
Bitnet: se08%andrew@cmccvb |
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| 16talk.politics.guns
|
Everyone keeps talking about European expansion by 2010 thinking
wishful thoughts, but being totally off the ball.
The league format we use here is incompatible with that in Europe.
(for those that don't know, the best teams from lower divisions get
promoted and the worst get demoted).
Would European fans put up with our "if you've paid, you can play"
attitude??
How long would they support teams that are run on Ranger-based
corporate thinking (I use the term lightly). (We don't need a good
product because these duffuses in NYC would fill the arena for Ottawa's
record every year......1940!! haha (sorry, had ta say it)).
If hockey (and other pro sports) had a similar system to Europe, maybe
teams like the Rangers would be forced to compete (or get demoted the fourth
division). We'd have many more teams...centres that aren't as big (like
Halifax or Adirondack....ok, so Halifax isn't a good example) would
eventually get promoted, and every team would be somewhat competetive within
its own division (unlike Ottawa, SJ, Edmonton, etc.). Fans would eventually
get rewarded for their loyalty (or penalized for their neglect), and the
league would be more interesting and dynamic every year because of the influx
of newly promoted teams (and the Halifax Citadels win the Stanley Cup...I can
dream, can't I??)
Look at British (or any European) soccer as an example (they never have fan
problems).
Just someone who thinks our system really sucks
Barfly
(feel free to flame me, my account ends today...hahahaha)
1940!!
| 10rec.sport.hockey
|
In article <48090@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> hminassi@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (HM) writes:
> Azeri President Abulfaz Elchibey said Azerbaijan had recovered
>the bodies of some 500 "terrorists including blacks, Mongols and
>fighters recently brought to (the Armenian capital) Yerevan from Lebanon."
You can dream whatever you wish. We have demands from the Armenians.
With the Government of x-Soviet Armenia, we would sit down, go over
all our outstanding issues, whether it's land or reparations or
recognition, whatever it is. We'd like to sit down and ask for it.
By all means, lands and properties were taken away from us and they
should be returned to the rightful owners, the Turkish and Kurdish
people, who were there 3,000 years, long before the Armenians ever
showed up in that area. Entire population of the region was subjected
to genocide beyond belief; genocide which was planned to exterminate
the whole Turkish people of the region to the last man, woman and child.
Armenians tortured and massacred millions of defenseless civilians. To
assemble innocent civilians in the mosques and burn them in the buildings
was one of their methods. Even today the traveler in that region is seldom
free from the evidence of these Armenian crimes.
If you have the stomach, I would strongly recommend the following
references on the Armenian genocide of the Muslims. Many more of them
are also available in the 'Erzurum and Van Turkish Genocide Museums.'
1. Neside Kerem Demir, "Bir Sehid Anasina Tarihin Soyledikleri:
Turkiye'nin Ermeni Meselesi," Hulbe Basim ve Yayin T.A.S.,
Ankara, 1982.
2. Veysel Eroglu, "Ermeni Mezalimi," Sebil Yayinevi, Istanbul, 1978.
3. A. Alper Gazigiray, "Osmanlilardan Gunumuze Kadar Vesikalarla Ermeni
Teroru'nun Kaynaklari," Gozen Kitabevi, Istanbul, 1982.
4. Dr. Kirzioglu M. Fahrettin, "Kars Ili ve Cevresinde Ermeni Mezalimi,"
Kardes Matbaasi, Ankara, 1970.
But more than that.
A Final Goodbye in Azerbaijan:
[Photo by Associated Press]: "At a cemetery in Agdam, Azerbaijan, family
members and friends grieved during the burial of victims killed in the
fighting in Nagorno-Karabagh. Chingiz Iskandarov, right, hugged the
coffin containing the remains of his brother, one of the victims. A copy
of Koran lay atop the coffin."
The New York Times, 3/6/92
Final Embrace :
[Photo by Associated Press]: "Chingiz Iskenderov, right, weeps over
coffin holding the remains of his brother as other relatives grieve
at an Azarbaijani cemetery yesterday amid burial of victims killed
in fighting in Nagorno-Karabagh."
The Washington Post, 3/6/92
Nagorno-Karabagh Victims Buried in Azerbaijani Town :
"Refugees Claim Hundreds died in Armenian Attack...Of seven bodies seen
here today, two were children and three were women, one shot through
the chest at what appeared to be close range. Another 120 refugees
being treated at Agdam's hospital include many with multiple stab
wounds."
Thomas Goltz
The Washington Post, 2/28/92
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
| 17talk.politics.mideast
|
In article <1r8ufk$fr7@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A.
Spencer) writes:
>
>In a previous article, finnegan@nrlssc.navy.mil () says:
>
>>In article <Apr22.202724.24131@engr.washington.edu>
>>eliot@stalfos.engr.washington.edu (eliot) writes:
>>>
>>>the subarus all use 180 degree vees in their engines.. :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>eliot
>>
>>Wouldn't that make them an I4? Or would they
>>really be an _4 (henceforth referred to as
>>"underscore 4")?
>
>i think that it is technicaly known as a 180 degree vee configuration.
>(could be wrong....this is how i've seen them referred to)
>DREW
I've always heard them referred to "horizontally opposed"...
Joe
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| 7rec.autos
|
A couple of weeks ago I posted a question concerning
communicating
between VB and MSACCESS using DDE. The answers I received at
that time
allowed me to get a prototype of my project working. However,
during
this process I have come up with new problems.
1) There seems to be a limit of 255 characters for a DDE Topic
string. Is
this inherent in all DDE systems or just peculiar to MSACCESS
or VB?
2) It is easy to query an Access database from VB using the
DDE SQL command,
(provided the above limitation is overcome by using short
field and table
names) but how is one meant to update a database?
a) A DDE SQL UPDATE command does not seem to work.
b) Initiating an Access macro using a DDE Execute command
from VB cannot
be used because when the macro requests information from
VB using a
second DDE channel the programs dead lock until time-
outs occur.
(The VB to Access channel has to close before the Access
to VB channel
is initiated, I guess.)
c) Access does not allow VB to DDE POKE the information.
The way I eventually managed to update a database was by
sending key-
strokes from VB to Access using the SendKeys command. This
technique has
the problem that Access cannot be minimised and it must
always be in a
state ready to respond to the sequence of key-strokes VB
sends.
Are all the above statements correct or have I made incorrect
assumptions?
Are there any better work arounds to the above? Are there any
signs of an
ODBC driver for Access?
Bob
ran@doc.ic.ac.uk
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
|
T.S.Reddy writes
> The report below shows that the Sudanese are acting in the finest
>traditions of Islamic law as expounded by some die-hard people on the
>net (who shall remain nameless).
>
>WASHINGTON - Government troops in Sudan are involved in massacres,
>kidnapping and the transporting of forced labor into Libya, according
>to a State Department document declassified Wednesday.
>
> The report compiled by the U.S. embassy in Khartoum said government
>forces, particularly Arab militias organized as the Popular Defense
>Forces, "routinely steal women and children" in southern Sudan.
>
> "Some women and girls are kept as wives, the others are shipped
>north where they perform forces labor on Kordofan (central Sudan)
>farms or are exproted, notably to Libya," it said.
While the people here may be claim to be Muslim, the actions reported here,
if they actually happened, are 180 degrees opposite from what Islam stands
for, and I, for one, condemn them.
--
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|| || (217) 384-4671 / so hard to comprehend
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| 17talk.politics.mideast
|
In article <kmr4.1587.734911207@po.CWRU.edu> kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan) writes:
[deletions]
>
> [ In this case, I would consider not saying anything to be a lie.
A lie of omission, as it were. (As opposed to an outright lie which I
believe would be termed a lie of commission.)
>Or, at the very least, it implies that falsehood is on the same level of
>telling the truth. Or, we can stipulate that the SS have methods to make you
>say something: only they can not control whether or not you say "yes" or
>"no". Only that you will say one or the other. ]
>---
>
> Only when the Sun starts to orbit the Earth will I accept the Bible.
>
>
Clyde
--
Little girls, like butterflies, don't need a reason!
- Robert Heinlein
| 0alt.atheism
|
In article <C4zHKw.3Dn@zoo.toronto.edu>, henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
> In article <2736@snap> paj@uk.co.gec-mrc (Paul Johnson) writes:
>>This bit interests me. How much automatic control is there? Is it
>>purely autonomous or is there some degree of ground control?
>
> The "stick-and-rudder man" is always the onboard computer. The computer
> normally gets its orders from a stored program, but they can be overridden
> from the ground.
>
>>How is
>>the transition from aerodynamic flight (if thats what it is) to hover
>>accomplished? This is the really new part...
>
> It's also one of the tricky parts. There are four different ideas, and
> DC-X will probably end up trying all of them. (This is from talking to
> Mitch Burnside Clapp, who's one of the DC-X test pilots, at Making Orbit.)
>
> (1) Pop a drogue chute from the nose, light the engines once the thing
> stabilizes base-first. Simple and reliable. Heavy shock loads
> on an area of structure that doesn't otherwise carry major loads.
> Needs a door in the "hot" part of the structure, a door whose
> operation is mission-critical.
>
> (2) Switch off pitch stability -- the DC is aerodynamically unstable at
> subsonic speeds -- wait for it to flip, and catch it at 180
> degrees, then light engines. A bit scary.
>
> (3) Light the engines and use thrust vectoring to push the tail around.
> Probably the preferred method in the long run. Tricky because
> of the fuel-feed plumbing: the fuel will start off in the tops
> of the tanks, then slop down to the bottoms during the flip.
> Keeping the engines properly fed will be complicated.
>
> (4) Build up speed in a dive, then pull up hard (losing a lot of speed,
> this thing's L/D is not that great) until it's headed up and
> the vertical velocity drops to zero, at which point it starts
> to fall tail-first. Light engines. Also a bit scary, and you
> probably don't have enough altitude left to try again.
> --
> All work is one man's work. | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
> - Kipling | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
Since the DC-X is to take off horizontal, why not land that way??
Why do the Martian Landing thing.. Or am I missing something.. Don't know to
much about DC-X and such.. (overly obvious?).
Why not just fall to earth like the russian crafts?? Parachute in then...
==
Michael Adams, nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu -- I'm not high, just jacked
Please enlighten me... Ignorance is easy to correct. make a mistake and
everyone will let you know you messed up..
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|
Cathy Smith posting for L. Neil Smith
Dear Bill --
Very, VERY good -- you made my whole day with this post. Thanks
a lot.
L. Neil Smith
My opinions are, of course, my own.
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In <1993Apr20.072905.21404@fel.tno.nl> mveraart@fel.tno.nl (Mario Veraart) writes:
>umyin@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Qing Yin) writes:
>>Hi, it's an *easy* question for you Windows gurus. I'd appreciate any help.
>>We need to write an on-line help for our application. We don't have
>>Windows Software Developer's Toolkit (yet :-) ). Since we just want to build
>>a .HLP file around Windows' help engine, I hope it won't be that complicated?
>>Anyway, could someone kindly give me some hints of how to build such an
>>on-line help, if it does not take 100 pages to explain? Or if it is complicated,
>>would you help to point out what I would need to do it?
>>--
>>Vincent Q. Yin
>>umyin@ccu.umanitoba.ca
>Hi,
>If you have developed your own windows application you must have a
>SDK of some sort that contains the HC.EXE or HC31.EXE file to
>compile and generate .HLP files out of .RTF files.
>RTF files are generated by a wordprocessor like Word for Dos or W4W.
You do not need the SDK. What you need (and can get free) are
Location: ftp.cica.indiana.edu
index: /pub/pc/win3/INDEX
First get /pub/pc/win3/uploads/what.zip (~1.3M) This contains the help
compiler among other things. It is free from Microsoft.
Then get these (I think these are free too)
dir: /pub/pc/win3/programr
files: hag.zip, whag.zip wfwhlp.zip
These are shareware
dir: /pub/pc/win3/util
files: hwab21.zip, qdhelp.zip, qdtool.zip
dir: /pub/pc/win3/winword
files: drhelpev.zip (macros for word 2.0 to convert doc to hlp files).
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In article <1993Apr6.155743.18798@adobe.com> snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) writes:
>In article <1993Apr6.141557.8864@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
>>Anyways, crawl back into the hole you crawled out of...the NBA doesn't
>>care where they get basketball players from, major league baseball
>>doesn't give a damn where they get baseball players from (except Cuba,
>>that is).
>
>MLB is perfectly willing to take players from Cuba. They just have to
>defect first.
>
>Sort of like the situation used to be with Russian/Czech/etc hockey
>players, until the political situation in those countries changed.
>
Major league baseball has told the Blue Jays and the Expos not to
sign Oscar Linares (I think that is his name)
...Canada does not have the restrictions against
Cubans that the US has and other major league teams have told the
Canadian teams that they would be very unhappy if the Expos or the
Blue Jays would do this. Cubans players would not have to defect
to play in Canada and could play the 81 home games for the Expos
and Blue Jays without any trouble.
Gerald
| 10rec.sport.hockey
|
In article <1993Apr27.201252.9110@Virginia.EDU> ab4z@Virginia.EDU ("Andi Beyer") writes:
>
> Bull shit. There is no reason in the world why we can't say that
> taking views analogous to the KKK's or some such organization is
> wrong. There is no reason why some morality may not be legislated. As
> it is we do not allow theft, or murder, or rape. Why should we allow
> hateful sppech whose only purpose is to stir anger and violence.
>
> Harry.
Actually, You're wrong as well. The KKK is allowed to
march and any attempts to curtail their freedom is rejected
(Actually I believe the ACLU won a case for them last year).
Morality should not be legilated in a free country like
the U.S.
Yes. That seems to be the problem. Even Germany now has laws for its
military where soldiers are *required* to disobey orders if they
believe the orders are morally incorrect.
Naziism is prohibited in Canada, Germany (others?). How pray tell is
Canda any less free than the US?
I'll post something on TJ and Uva under Uva for those
Hoos bashers.
Harry.
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|
In article <1993Apr19.135306.10534@news.columbia.edu>, pgf5@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Peter Garfiel Freeman) writes:
|>References: <18APR93.15729846.0076@VM1.MCGILL.CA> <1993Apr18.212610.5933@das.harvard.edu> <C5qHyA.5Gn@dscomsa.desy.de>
|>Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 13:53:06 GMT
|>Lines: 31
|>
|>>because the USA is bankrupt and simply cannot afford to finance the
|>>Israeli ecconomy any more. There is no money for such an occupation.
|>>
|>>
|>>Don't fool yourself. It was the gulf war that brought the Israelis to the
|>>negotiating table. Once their US backers had a secure base in the gulf
|>>they insrtructed Shamir to negotiate or else.
|>>
|>
|>>
|>>Phill Hallam-Baker
|>
|>Oh, why do you expose your ignorance? The US has been running on debt for
|>the past four generations and has still financed what it pleases.
The US unlike Israel has massive capital assets, to wit fort Knox for
one. The accumulated assets of the British empire shiped over in bulk
to pay for our weapons bill in world war I. Or maybe you thought that the
US occupied the Boer republic that is now South Africa?
|>And after the Gulf War, Israel could do whatever it wanted after
|>not decimating Iraq after the Scud attacks. It was encouraged, but
|>by no means forced, to negotiate.
Not with Bush at the helm. The gulf war meant that the middle east
was no longer a fringe issue of US politics. The US people had to
be convinced that the US could keep everything hunky dory in that
region.
You realise of course that all this is purely in the interests of allowing
the US citizen to drive arround in a 6 litre car doing single digit
miles to the gallon? Were the US to act responsibly they cvould be
self sufficient in oil.
|>Mr. Baker, to address all of your points would be impossible, but in a
|>nutshell, it is hypocritical for you to attack Israel's presence in
|>Lebanon without attacking Syria. Syrian occupation has been hostile,
|>and amounts to annexation.
Syrian occupation ended the civil war. Israeli invasion worstened it.
Its a bit like the Vietnamese invasion of Cambodia, reprehensible but
it put an end to the far worse attrocity that preceeded it. Now Syria
is in the US camp there might even be a possibility of some sort of
democratisation.
What do you expect from an ex French colony? They made a pigs ear of
every single one. The British cocked up Palestine and Pakistan, most
of the others managed to avoid a bloodbath. Compared to Algeria Syria
had it easy.
|> Israel's is clearly defensive. If it
Clearly offensive in that the original intent was to disloge the PLO from
Lebanon. In the process the civil war was dramatically worsened.
|>were not defensive, you would see all of Lebanon occupied, and governed by
|>Israel. But that is not what Israel wants.
Not at all. Israel is not in Lebanon because to do that would have meant
tens of thousands of dead. Had the US not stopped the Likud nutters from
continuing they would have seriously have threatened Israels survival.
Even in New York there was a massive feeling of revulsion for the Israeli
invasion. It was a complete disaster in PR terms.
Phill Hallam-Baker
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|
Richard Cower (cower@csli.stanford.edu) wrote:
:
: I believe this raid was ill planned because they only had 2 days to plan it,
: and it was continued when failure was obvious because it had a bit part
: in the much larger political agenda of President Clinton. I would even
: suggest that the loss of 4 ATF agents is inconsequential in this the
: context of his political agenda. It MIGHT even be beneficial to his agenda,
: as it helps point up just how evil these assualt weapons are. Further proof
: might be that the ATF denied their agents (Street Stories report) requests
: for sufficient fire power.
:
: Important dates:
: Feb 25th - NJ assembly votes to overturn assault weapon ban.
: Feb 28th - Compound in Waco attacked.
:
: On Feb. 25th the New Jersey assembly voted to overturn the assault weapon
: ban in that state. It looked like it might be a tight vote, but the Senate
: in N.J. was going to vote to overturn the ban. It would not sit well to have
: an Eastern state overturn an assault weapon ban, given Clintons stated
: agenda on gun control. I suspect Clinton gave the order to get someone or
: some: group with assualt weapons and have the press present (they were
: initially
: at the incident in Waco) to record the event for the TV audience. The agent
: on "Street Stories" reported that a supervisor was urging them all to "get
: ready fast", as "they know we are coming". I believe this attack continued,
: even tho the probablility of failure was high, because it came from the top
: down. After the N.J. assembly vote, the ATF had a limited amount of time to
: come up with something, and the Wackos in Waco fit the bill nicely.
:
: ...rich
I don't know Rich. Last year when the congress was debating the Bushmans
'Crime Bill', the incident at Lubys' cafe occured. Most of the anti-gun
crap was amended out of the bill anyway.
Could a president 'order': go find some 'assault weapons' and bring the
media". I hope not. Frankly, the Toon-meister* scares me. Of course
having a Democratic majority in congress doesn't help. (Apologies to all
Demos' who support RKBA)
( *definition: toon-meister - a characatureic name for the current
president of the U.S.: Clinton aka, Clintoon aka Toon-meister.)
Rob P.
| 16talk.politics.guns
|
The Colorado Daily recently reprinted the Wall Street Journal's article
on Paxton Quigley, including the nefarious little paragraph the Journal
tacked onto the end. After recieving much assistance from various T.P.G.
type folks, I wrote a letter to the editor criticizing this last paragraph,
and surprise, surprise, surprise, they published it. The text follows.
The Colorado Daily, btw, is the University of Colorado (Boulder) student
(I think) newspaper... not exactly a big coup, but every little bit, i guess...
(The title was the only thing they changed/added)
"Gun Stats"
The Daily recently reprinted an article from the
Wall Street Journal, primarily concerned with Paxton
Quigley, author of "Armed and Female." The article,
in turn, cites a misleading statistic that was originally
reported in the New England Journal of Medicine. The
article states, "A study... found that a gun in the home
was 43 times more likely to be used to kill its owner,
spouse, a friend, or child than to kill an intruder." This
is an often-quoted statistic, and it is misleading for sev-
eral reasons, outlined below:
The study gives the impression that, if you own a
gun, the likelihood that you will successfully use it to
defend yourself is less than that of the gun being turned
against you. The study, however, fails to take into
account cases where a law-abiding citizen uses a gun
to thwart a crime, without actually killing the perpe-
trator.
The study actually refers to 'acquaintances' rather
than 'friend'. This would include the friendly neigh-
borhood thug who shows up like clockwork, every
month, the second your grandmother cashes her social
security check. Possibly an acquaintance, but hardly a
friend.
The NEJM study is based on the immediate dis-
position of cases and fails to take into account cases
originally filed as homicides that were later ruled to be
self-defense. Especially considering the small sample
size (396), taking these events into account has a sub-
stantial effect on the 43:1 ratio quoted.
Criminologist Gary Kleck gives us a slightly dif-
erent statistic: a gun is 33 times more likely to be
used, successfully, by a private citizen against an
aggressor than it is to kill anyone at all. Further, per-
sons defending themselves from aggression by using a
gun fare better than those who resist vicimization by
some other means, or who offer no resistance at all.
Statistics available from the FBI and other agencies
also show that a gun is 245 times more likely to be
used by a non-criminal to defend against criminal threat
than to be used to commit criminal homicide, 535 times
more likely to be used to defend against a criminal
threat than to accidentally kill anybody, and 50 times
more likely to defend against criminal threat than to be
used to commit suicide.
It is well to keep in mind that nearly anything can
be proved by uncritical quotation of statistics. One has
to consider carefully what questions were asked by
those gathering the data before one can draw an accu-
rate conclusion from them.
D.F. Taylor
CU Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
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>In article <1993May10.162032.3955@colorado.edu> perlman@qso.Colorado.EDU (Eric S. Perlman) writes:
>>
>>In a word: utter and complete horse puckey. Look the term up in the
>>dictionary.
>
OK. Lets look into this.
According to my dictionary,
Zi-on-ism: an international movement orig. for the establishment of a Jewish
national or religious community in Palestine and later for the support of
modern Israel.
Now, I do not support the establishment of nations based on religious
principles, while I support the establishment of nations based on cultural
identities.
So. Here are some questions I have to ask for anyone to answer. My point
is what someone said long time ago: In politics, like with men, it is important
to distiguish between what they say they do and what they are actually
doing.
1) My mother is Jewish (and so is my father). If I apply for the Law of
Return, do I get in as a Jew trying to return to his land, from which my
family was expelled about 2000 years ago?
2) If I go back, which nationality would my ID show?
3) If I decided to go back to the land from which my relatives had been
expelled 2000 years ago, but first I convert to any other religion, can I
apply to the law of Return as a member of the Jewish Nation or should I
apply as someone whose mother is Jewish?
4) Which nationality would show my ID in case 3)?
5) What has change in me between the day before and the day after I converted
to loose my being part of the Jewish Nation?
6) Suppose I want to get married to my current wife, who is non-Jewish in
Israel, how do I do it?
7) How would my situation change if I decided, after going back to
Israel, to convert to Islam?
Now, here is one more question. I do believe that most people in a country
do not care about politics. They just want to be left alone.
Suppose my father is Arab. Suppose he was born in Palestine, in some place
which now is part of Israel. Suppose that his father, and his grandfather as
well as 20 or 30 generations before him were born in that place.
Now suppose there is a war of independence and my father, scared by all the
fighting going on, tries to take his family to a place more secure, among
people he knows, who speak a language he understands, who worship the same
god. Now, suppose that that place is some other Arab country.
And, now suppose that the war is over and that there is a new country created
where my father used to live, and that that country is called Israel.
And, that in that country, Jews from all over the world are received. And
that people whose family left thet country 200 generation ago are recieved and
granted full-citizenship.
Should I, if I decided to go back to my father's land, where he was born as
20 or 30 generations of my family were born, have the right to go back and
ask to be recognized in the same way those who are returning after 2000
years?
Then, finally, people ask me how I would define a Jew, but that is irrelevant.
I am not talking about how I would define a Jew, but about how people in
Zionist organizations, and more important, in Israel, define a Jew.
How would those who are Zionist define a Jew?
>
>> Eric S. Perlman <perlman@qso.colorado.edu>
>> Center for Astrophysics and Space Astronomy, University of Colorado, Boulder
>
AAP
| 17talk.politics.mideast
|
In article <2500@tekgen.bv.tek.com>, davet@interceptor.cds.tek.com (Dave
Tharp CDS) writes:
|> I saw his bike parked in front of a bar a few weeks later without
|> the
|> dog, and I wandered in to find out what had happened.
|>
|> He said, "Somebody stole m' damn dog!". They left the Harley
|> behind.
|>
Animal Rights people have been know to do that to other
"Bike riding dogs.cats and Racoons.
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>>>>> On 12 Apr 93 21:36:33 +0930, 9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au (The Desert Brat) said:
TDB> 12. Disease introduced to Brazilian * oher S.Am. tribes: x million
To be fair, this was going to happen eventually. Given time, the Americans
would have reached Europe on their own and the same thing would have
happened. It was just a matter of who got together first.
--
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edm@twisto.compaq.com _-\_<,
"If it were not for laughter, there would be no Tao." (*)/'(*)
| 0alt.atheism
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In <LHE.93Apr26131014@yang.sics.se> lhe@sics.se (Lars-Henrik Eriksson) writes:
>Most (if not virtually all) swedish exchanges can handle tone
>dialling. Many older electromechanical exchanges have been modified
>accept tone dialling.
I would not be suprised if the equipment is compatible, in fact New York
Telephone (NYNEX) spend a lot of money on Swedish switching equipment
recently.
>Lars-Henrik Eriksson Internet: lhe@sics.se
You can guess what brand of equipment I refer to :-)
Michael
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| 12sci.electronics
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In article <May.6.00.35.55.1993.15474@geneva.rutgers.edu> Joe Moore writes,
speaking of the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin:
>It was a gift from God. I think basically the reasoning was that the
>tradition in the Church held that Mary was also without sin as was Jesus.
Yes. For examples of this in the writings of the early fathers, consider:
You alone and your Mother
are more beautiful than any others;
For there is no blemish in you,
nor any stains upon your Mother.
Who of my children
can compare in beauty to these?
-- St. Ephrem the Syrian, Nisibene Hymns, 27:8, around
A.D. 370
Lift me up not from Sara but from Mary, a Virgin not only undefiled
but a Virgin whom grace has made inviolate, free of every stain of sin.
-- St. Ambrose, "Commentary on Psalm 118", 22:30, ca. A.D. 388
There are many others.
>As the tenets of faith developed, particularly with Augustine, sin was
>more and more equated with sex, and thus Mary was assumed to be a virgin
>for life (since she never sinned, and since she was the spouse of God, etc.)
No. We have, for instance:
Was there ever anyone of any breeding who dared to speak the name of
Holy Mary, and being questioned, did not immediately add, "the Virgin"?
... And to Holy Mary, Virgin is invariably added, for that Holy Woman
remains undefiled.
-- St. Epiphanus of Salamis, "Panacea against all heresies",
between A.D. 374-377.
We surely cannot deny that you were right in correcting the doctrine
about children of Mary ... For the Lord Jesus would not have chosen
to be born of a virgin if He had judged that she would be so incontinent
as to taint the birthplace of the Body of the Lord, home of the Eternal
King, with the seed of human intercourse. Anyone who proposes this is
merely proposing ... that Christ could not be born of a virgin.
-- Pope St. Siricius, Letter to Anysius, Bishop of
Thessalonica, A.D. 392
Note that St. Augustine's conversion to Christianity was in A.D. 387. I
don't know offhand when his election as bishop of Hippo was, but I'm quite
sure it was after 392. The belief in Mary's perpetual virginity originated
long before Augustine's time. We hold that it originated with the
Apostles.
Strictly speaking, however, Mary's perpetual virginity is independent
of her Immaculate Conception. Mary could have been Immaculately
Conceived and not remained a virgin; she could have remained a virgin
and not been Immaculately Conceived.
>Since we also had this notion of original sin, ie. that man is born with
>a predisposition to sin, and since Mary did not have this predisposition
>because she did not ever sin, she didn't have original sin. When science
>discovered the process of conception, the next step was to assume that
>Mary was conceived without original sin, the Immaculate Conception.
No. It has been held in the Church since ancient times that original
sin was transmitted at conception, when a person's life begins.
Biology had nothing to do with it. Prayerfully reflecting on the
truth of Mary's sinlessness, and the means by which God could have
achieved this, the Church arrived at the truth of the Immaculate
Conception. Thus, the Immaculate Conception is not a new doctrine,
but the logical result of our understanding of two old ones.
The celebration of the Feast of the Immaculate Conception itself was
given by Pope Sixtus IV (1471-84) and the Feast was made a precept
feast of the Church by Pope Clement XI (1700-21).
>Mary at that time appeared to a girl named Bernadette at Lourdes. She
>refered to herself as the Immaculate Conception. Since a nine year old
>would have no way of knowing about the doctrine, the apparition was deemed
>to be true and it sealed the case for the doctrine.
No. First of all, Lourdes is private revelation, and doctrine is not
based on private revelation. The most that private revelation can do
is enhance and deepen our understanding of existing public revelation,
which ended with the death of St. John the Apostle.
Second, the "case for the doctrine" was irreformably sealed in 1854
with the ex cathedra promulgation of the Bull "Ineffabilis Deus" by
Pope Pius IX. This meant that the doctrine was formally recognized as
a dogma; a dogma, by definition, cannot change and is required to be
believed by the faithful.
The apparition at Lourdes happened in 1858, four years later. The most
that might be claimed is that Lourdes gave the infallible proclamation
of 1854 a sort of heavenly stamp of approval, but the Church has never
claimed that, nor shall she.
In Christ's Peace,
Brad Kaiser
(bradk@isdgsm.eurpd.csg.mot.com)
Those who trust in Him shall understand truth,
and the faithful shall abide with Him in love;
Because grace and mercy are with His holy ones,
and His care is with His elect.
-- Wis 3:9 [NAB]
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In article <1993May12.161857.29950@samba.oit.unc.edu> naoumov@physics.unc.edu (Sergei Naoumov) writes:
>I run twm and would like to execute some program before leaving twm. In other
>words I would like to run some program before I do f.quit. Is it possible
>to make a menu section which would contain these two parts?
In your menu definition, put:
"Quit TWM" f.function "Execute and Quit"
Then define:
Function "Execute and Quit" {
!"some_program"
f.quit
}
--
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.
barmar@think.com {uunet,harvard}!think!barmar
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