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In article <80651@cup.portal.com>, mmm@cup.portal.com (Mark Robert Thorson) writes:
>> Not everything that goes in comes out, and personaly I don't mind giving
>> my body a hand once in a while.
>>
>> Just my experience,
>>
>> George Paap
>
> I've got a very nice collection of historical books on medical quackery,
> and on the topic of massage this is a recurring theme. Ordinary massage
> is intended to make a person feel better, especially if they have muscular
> or joint problems. But -- like chiropracty -- there are some practitioners
> who take the technique to a far extreme, invoking what seems to me to be
> quack science to justify their technique.
>
> In the case of massage, there is a technique called "deep abdominal massage"
> in which the masseur is literally attempting to massage the intestines!
> The notion is that undigested food adheres to the inner surface of the
> intestines and putrifies, releasing poisons which cause various disease
> syndromes. By this vigorous and painful procedure, it is alleged that
> these deposits can be loosened up and passed out.
>
> I just can't believe this idea has any truth behind it! The human intestine
> is not a New York City sewer pipe! And even if it were, you eat half of
> a small box of Triscuits, and there ain't gonna be nothin' sticking to the
> inner surface of your intestine :-)
Mark, this is the most reasonable post that I've seen in Sci. Med. on the
topic of Colonic Flushing. I'm in a profession that uses manipulation(a
very refined form of massage) to treat various human diseases. Proving
that manipulation works has been extremely difficult(as the MD's delight in
pointing out). The Osteopathic Profession seems to be making better
progress than the chiropractors in proving(scientifically) that their
techingues work. The JAOA recently had a study on the use of manipulation
to relieve mensrual cramps in women with results that were as good or
better than drug treatment(using physiological measurements, and not just
the woman's preception of improvement). This study was hailed by the JAOA
editors as the turning point in the profession's long struggle to prove
itself to the medical community.
I'm currently trying to get the AOA(American Osteopathic Association) which
has supported most of the Osteopathic research in the U.S. to also support
nutrition education and research. I've pointed out, in a grant proposal,
that the founder of Osteopathic Medicine(A.T. Still) embraced both diet and
manipulation to set himself apart from the MD's of his time who were pushing
only drugs(Still was himself an MD who got real dissillusioned with drugs
during his service in the Civil War). He decided that there had to be a
better way to treat human disease since he saw the cure(drugs) as being
worse than the disease. Through his many years of study of the human body,
he developed his manipulation techniques that he then taught to his
students in the U.S's first Osteopathic Medical school. We now have 17.
Still used manipulation to treat(and also diagnose) human disease but he
used diet to prevent human disease. I'm trying to get the Osteopathic
Profession to return to it's roots and beat the MD's to the punch(so to
speak). Both DO's and MD's in current medical practice have very little
understanding of how diet affects human health. This has to change.
Martin Banschbach, Ph.D.
Professor of Biochemistry and Chairman
Department of Biochemistry and Microbiology
OSU COllege of Osteopathic Medicine
"You are what you eat."
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In <1r600fINNdlu@cronkite.Central.Sun.COM> dbernard@clesun.Central.Sun.COM writes:
> In article 5589@news.eng.convex.com, gardner@convex.com (Steve Gardner) writes:
> >In article <1r3j2k$da2@menudo.uh.edu> HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:
> >> Minor quibble: The assualt (and it was one) began near dawn. The fire did
> >>not break out for several hours.
> > Minor quibble back at you. I am in the same general area as
> > the Koresh compound and I can tell you that the air was quite
> > chilly that morning, especially with the high winds that
> > were blowing. (Of course the swiss cheese walls made it
> > even worse. ;-)
You are correct WRT the idea of some heating being nice that morning. But
part of that line was also for the guy who said "minutes later, the fires
started". I did forget how cool it was that day.
> Those choppers flying around didn't make the wind any more still, either.
When you got 30-40 mph winds swinging across the Texas plain, a couple of
Hueys don't add one whole hell of a lot.
semper fi,
Jammer Jim Miller
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
________________________________________________________________________________
I don't speak for UH, which is too bad, because they could use the help.
"Become one with the Student Billing System. *BE* the Student Billing System."
"Power finds its way to those who take a stand. Stand up, Ordinary Man."
---Rik Emmet, Gil Moore, Mike Levine: Triumph
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In article <1qnn7b$ddc@sol.TIS.COM> mjr@tis.com (Marcus J Ranum) writes:
> When you've got HRH Prince of Wales saying stupid things over
>cordless phones, it's not hard to imagine that drug dealers, child
>pornographers, commies, LISP programmers, and other threats to the
>civilized world might transact incriminating business over "encrypting"
>cellular phones.
>
Let's assume, for the moment, that the system really is secure unless
you get both halves of the encryption key from the two independent
escrow houses. Let's say you even trust the escrow houses -- one is
the ACLU and the other is the EFF. (And I'm not entirely joking about
those two names)
In that case the Prince of Wales has nothing to worry about on this
system. Indeed, as pointed out, since the current systems, even the
current digital systems, are very easy to decode -- right now anybody
with an old TV can hear them -- for most people, this will be viewed
as an "oh goody" step upwards.
And look at how tolerant the public is. They're willing to let the
neighbours with the radios hear right now.
It was suggested by one person that a *lot* of non-evidentiary wiretapping
is going on right now without warrants, because anybody can do it and it's
just an ECPA violation. This would stop that. All tapping would need
a warrant, or a breach of security at the escrow houses.
--
Brad Templeton, ClariNet Communications Corp. -- Sunnyvale, CA 408/296-0366
| 11sci.crypt
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I've just installed a 5.25" tape backup in my C610; lot of the issues
are the same. So, to answer your questions...
In article <1993Apr16.141820.1@cstp.umkc.edu> kmoffatt@cstp.umkc.edu writes:
> My PLI 80M syquest drive has a wire from the
> drive to an id# switch on the outside of the case. Where do I connect
> this switch?? Can the computer just "tell" with internal drives?
You probably want to hard-wire the SCSI ID with shorting jumpers. Put
it at a convenient number like "1". You *could* cut a hole in the
back of the machine to route the ID switch, but why go through the
hassle? You probably won't be needing to frequently change the ID of
your internal drive.
> I noticed that the drive will lay over part of the motherboard (I
>didn't look closely, but I seem to recall it laying over the ram that's
>soldered onto the motherboard? Would that cause problems?
Yeah, when I first installed the tape drive I was a little concerned
too. But it's no problem, the device is designed to fit just fine
with the overhang. It shouldn't reach back beyond the ROM/RAM/VRAM
SIMMs, though.
> One last question! Is there anywhere to order a faceplate cover?
>the drive's front panel is smaller than the space left in the case (the
>drive's panel is the same size as the spotsBM clone's cases). Should I just
>cut a hole in the plastic panel that is currently holding tmpty place?
You can special-order parts to mount the device from your local Apple
dealer. The relevant parts are:
922-0358 blank bezel faceplate
922-0850 CD-ROM carrier [i.e., generic 5.25" device mounting bracket]
Note Apple's unfortunate choice of name for the slide-in bracket to
mount a 5.25" device. The service techs I talked to said, "Oh sure,
we stock those." Of course they were thinking of the CD caddies to
hold a CD disk when you stick it in the drive.
As far as I can tell, Apple does not sell a bezel faceplate already
cut out for a standard 5.25" device. (Why not? They advertise
these machines as being able to accept any standard device in the
5.25" bay, why not provide the faceplate?) They do sell a cutout for
their CD-ROM drive (of course), but that's of no use.
I'm going to hack up the extra bezel I ordered to make a cutout for my
tape drive, which is a standard 5.25" device.
Good luck with your SyQuest.
-Fred
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware
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In article jgl@apple.com, chuq@apple.com (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:
>snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) writes:
>
>>Of course, Ferreira had also traded a number of veterans with marginal
>>contributions before he was fired, so it's not clear that this would have
>>been different. Besides, they *were* marginal contributors.
>
>Let's also NOT FORGET that Ferreira came *THIS* close to trading Kelly
>Kisio, which, if the rumors I've heard are true, was over the strong
>objections of other aspects of Shark management and probably had a lot to do
>with both his ouster and the three-headed, consensus oriented GM.
>
>Imagine, for a second, where the Sharks would be today if that fax machine
>hadn't jammed.
On the other hand, I'm hard pressed to think of any other real mistakes
Fereirra made. Imagine indeed, but then again we have the benefit of
hindsight.
Let's say that in the view of the Sharks' upper management, the attempt
to trade Kisio was a major factor in the decision to fire Feirerra.
I'm inclined to take exactly the opposite view: they should have kept
him...he's obviously the luckiest man in hockey! (Wonder what
sacrifice he made to the Muse of Fax? (His job, I guess.))
have fun
gak
---
Richard Stueven AHA# 22584 |----------| He has erected a multitude of new
Internet: gak@wrs.com |----GO----| offices, and sent hither swarms
ATTMAIL: ...!attmail!gakhaus!gak |---SHARX--| of officers to harass our people,
Cow Palace: 107/H/3-4 |----------| and eat out their substance.
| 10rec.sport.hockey
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Keith M. Ryan (kmr4@po.CWRU.edu) wrote:
: Nice cop out bill.
I'm sure you're right, but I have no idea to what you refer. Would you
mind explaining how I copped out?
Bill
| 0alt.atheism
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Karl Auerbach writes:
>>> Besides, nine people *did* successfully flee the fire.
>Yeah, and at least one person ran back in. SOunds like a personal choice to me.
>Religious fanaticsm, and a beleive that dying in the 'defense' of your beliefs,
>is probably at the core of what happened in Waco.
Religious fanaticism?
People try to get back in all the time when their homes are afire.
Firefighters often have to restrain them. They want to rush back in in an
effort to save things-- old photos, keepsakes, stamp collections,
cash, books, jewelery, pets, their wives and husbands, their babies...
| 16talk.politics.guns
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In article <1993Apr15.201756.29141@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) writes:
>In article <1993Apr14.175931.66210@cc.usu.edu> slp9k@cc.usu.edu writes:
>>> (BTW - Which parts should be secure? Criminal
>>> records, ie convictions, are typically considered public information,
>>> so should that info be secure? Remember, the population includes
>>> parents checking prospective childcare worker.)
>
>> Parent's checking a babysitter shouldn't need access to the information
>>stored in the card.
>
>Sure they do. The prospective sitter may have a nasty habit of molesting
>kids three or four months into the job. The references may not have
>known him long enough or may not have picked up on this yet.
>
>Remember, criminal conviction info is public, so if you're going to
>argue for an ID card, other people are going to have a strong argument
>that it disclose public info.
As perhaps some insight into how this sort of thing works, the
local college newspaper had a big crusade to have the U.T. police
release crime stats. (The school claimed that to do so would violate
federal education records privacy laws). They swore up and down they
weren't interested in student discipline records, only for stats so people
could make an evaluation of how safe the campus was.
It was barely a week after crime stats were released before the
Daily Beacon had an editorial calling for student disciplinary stats
to be released, because they complained certain segments of the campus
population were treated administratively rather than turned over to the
police and therefore the criminal states weren't accurate.
What people say they want public today may not be what they
say tomorrow.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
David Veal Univ. of Tenn. Div. of Cont. Education Info. Services Group
PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu - "I still remember the way you laughed, the day
your pushed me down the elevator shaft; I'm beginning to think you don't
love me anymore." - "Weird Al"
| 16talk.politics.guns
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I have the following LDs for sale 20 for 1st 15 each additional,
postage (3rd class) paid.
Project A-ko (Japanese - NO ENGLISH)
Dominion Act-I (Japanese - NO ENGLISH)
Dominion Act-II (Japanese - NO ENGLISH)
Far From the Madding Crowd (LBX)
West Side Story (LBX)
Ben Hur (P&S)
The Dirty Dozen (P&S)
Star Trek V (P&S)
The Fabuluos Fleischer Folio Vol 1
Tom and Jerry Classics
Bugs Bunny Classics
--
brian
oplinger@ra.crd.ge.com
<#include standard.disclaimer>
| 6misc.forsale
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Have Belfour and Roenick done another disappearing act at chips are
down time? When I saw them it looked like the Blackhawks' defense
might carry them along way in the playoffs.
Well they held St. Louis to 17 shots in game 2 and lost.
Looks like maybe Keenan had (has) some insight to me.
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I know this has been asked a million time, but..
What was the ftp site carrying 30-40 .ZIPs of full POV "source" files,
including JACK.ZIP and KETTLE.ZIP? I've once been there but
unfortunately lost the address.
I'm in a little hurry with it, so please e-mail me at
jtheinon@kruuna.helsinki.fi. Thanks..
Jarkko
| 1comp.graphics
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Thanks to all those who responded to my original post on this question. The
final diagnosis was Stress. I did not take her for a chiropractic adjustment.
(Rachel receives all her medical care at Keller Army Hospital since she is a
military dependant, and the Army does not yet provide chiropractic adjustments
as part of its regular health care.) I am hoping that the arrival of (1)
Spring Break, and (2) College Acceptance Letters, will help. *UNFORTUNATELY*
she was wait-listed at the college she most dearly wanted to attend, so it
seems as though that stressor may just continue for a while. :-(
Meanwhile she is going on a camping trip with her religious youth group for
spring break, which seems like a good stress-reliever to me.
Thanks again for everybody's help/advice/suggestions/ideas.
------------------------
Ruth Ginzberg <rginzberg@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
Philosophy Department;Wesleyan University;USA
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I tried to mail Peter Boucher, who posted the question, but my e-mail
bounced, so, apologies to thsoe who are not interested.
>trinomials are all of the form X**a + X**b + 1, where a
Have you read:
Bremner,A.,
On Trinomials of Type x$+n$-+Ax$+m$-+1.
Math. Scand. 49(1981) pp. 145-155.
Zbl. 458.12012.
MR 83k:12002.
Ljunggren,W.,
On the Irreducibility of Certain Trinomials and Quadrinomials.
Math. Scand. 8(1960) pp. 65-70.
.
Tverberg,H.,
On the Irreducibility of the Trinomials
x$+n$-$mpm$$x$+m$-$mpm$$1.
Math. Scand. 8(1960) pp. 121-126.
Tverberg,H.,
On Cubic Factors of Certain Trinomials.
Math. Scand. 53(1983) pp. 178-184.
Zbl. 513.12003.
James Davenport
jhd@maths.bath.ac.uk
| 11sci.crypt
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In article <MAILQUEUE-101.930420145015.384@oak.shu.ac.uk> D.Haywood@sheffield-hallam.ac.uk writes:
>Hi,
> Environment: Sun Sparc 10, SunOs 4.1.3. X11R5 path level 23. My X process
>is started by xdm.
Okay, that's good. I'm typing this from exactly the same setup.
(US-UNIX layout keyboard) I did install the sunkbd patch, though.
> i) I want to setup the backgroud (root window?) of the tvtwm display to
> display the escherknot etc (grey is a very boring colour to work on)!
Make sure you're using "ssetroot", which comes with tvtwm. When tvtwm
starts up, it nukes the existing root window. Use an "ssetroot" after
tvtwm starts up. (You could spawn off a "(sleep 10; ssetroot ...)&")
You can also use "VirtualDesktopBackgroundPixmap filename" or just
VirtualDesktopBackground if you just want another color besides grey.
> ii) When I open an Xterm on the Sparc 10, not all of the keys are recognised
> and some keys on the keyboard are not sending the correct characters.
Did you install the sunkbd patch? It's in the contrib directory on export.
All the keys on my keyboard send events properly, except the following:
The End, PageUp, PageDown on the 6-key cluster aren't recognized.
Even the compose key works. (Though I can't seem to get the composed
characters in an xterm to get passed.)
Anyone have a fix for the last two?
--Dave
--
System Administrator, Penn State Population Research Institute
* Dog Dianetics ("Woof woof woof? Page 725.") - Kibo
| 5comp.windows.x
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This whole discussion is just a religous war. I'd rather have a '93 RX-7
than the Mustang 5.0L for 3 times the price. That's how you explain
Porsches selling. Some folks would rather have the Stang...
<shrug>
Sean
--
Test signature
| 7rec.autos
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In article <4949@eastman.UUCP> dps@nasa.kodak.com writes:
>|> Yet I am still not a believer. Is god not concerned with my
>|> disposition? Why is it beneath him to provide me with the
>|> evidence I would require to believe? The evidence that my
>|> personality, given to me by this god, would find compelling?
>The fact is God could cause you to believe anything He wants you to.
>But think about it for a minute. Would you rather have someone love
>you because you made them love you, or because they wanted to
>love you.
Oh no, not again.
There is a difference between believing that God exists, and loving him.
(For instance, Satan certainly believes God exists, but does not love him.)
What unbelievers request in situations like this is that God provide evidence
compelling enough to believe he exists, not to compel them to love him.
--
"On the first day after Christmas my truelove served to me... Leftover Turkey!
On the second day after Christmas my truelove served to me... Turkey Casserole
that she made from Leftover Turkey.
[days 3-4 deleted] ... Flaming Turkey Wings! ...
-- Pizza Hut commercial (and M*tlu/A*gic bait)
Ken Arromdee (arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu)
| 0alt.atheism
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There is a good report list on most all of the good monitors in this
months issue of Computer Shoppers magazine, with their phone munbers
and all (April issue) $2.99....Sam
--
Gosh..I think I just installed a virus..It was called MS DOS6...
Don't copy that floppy..BURN IT...I just love Windows...CRASH...
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
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>Hmmm. We must assume that generating the unit key U from the serial
>number N rather than generating it from a randomly selected U1 and U2
>is an intentional way of assuring a "fail safe" for the government --
>U is completedly determined given S1, S2 and N. If S1 and S2 do not
>change they constitute effective "master keys" (along with F), the
>theft of which (or the possession of which by various authorities)
>completely obviates the security of the system. However, more
>interestingly, we know, for a fact that if S1 and S2 are fixed no
>matter what the keyspace for U is no more than 2^30. Why not pick U1
>and U2 at random? Why this interesting restriction of they key space
>if it NOT to provide an additional back door?
>
>I find it disturbing that at the very best my security is dependant on
>approximately 30 bytes worth of information that could be written on
>the back of a napkin.
>
>Even if S1 and S2 change periodically, the rationale behind this
>restriction in the size of the keyspace seems strange if one is
>assuming that the goal is security -- and makes perfect sense if the
>goal is an illusion of security.
>
>If S1 and S2 do not change, even if they remain secret I wonder if
>they can somehow be back-derived given enough unit key/serial number
>pairs. We are assured that this cannot happen -- but no one
>understands how Skipjack works outside of government officials and,
>soon, foreign intelligence services that gain the information via
>espionage. Presumably we will eventually have the information as well
>-- reverse engineering gets more and more advanced every year -- but
>by the time we know it may be too late.
Perhaps the trusted escrow agencies can be the ones who come up with
S1 and S2, and if these agencies are really trusted (ACLU & NRA is an
interesting example), we can hope that they'll use some physical
process to come up with truly random numbers. If the NSA comes up with
the numbers, that's a trap door you could drive a truck through.
>None of this makes me feel the least bit secure.
Me either.
It seems from the following that the CPSR is atleats starting to
question this bogosity:
----------------------------------------------------------------
April 16, 1993
Washington, DC
COMPUTER PROFESSIONALS CALL FOR PUBLIC
DEBATE ON NEW GOVERNMENT ENCRYPTION INITIATIVE
Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility (CPSR)
today called for the public disclosure of technical data
underlying the government's newly-announced "Public Encryption
Management" initiative. The new cryptography scheme was
announced today by the White House and the National Institute
for Standards and Technology (NIST), which will implement the
technical specifications of the plan. A NIST spokesman
acknowledged that the National Security Agency (NSA), the super-
secret military intelligence agency, had actually developed the
encryption technology around which the new initiative is built.
According to NIST, the technical specifications and the
Presidential directive establishing the plan are classified. To
open the initiative to public review and debate, CPSR today
filed a series of Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests
with key agencies, including NSA, NIST, the National Security
Council and the FBI for information relating to the encryption
plan. The CPSR requests are in keeping with the spirit of the
Computer Security Act, which Congress passed in 1987 in order to
open the development of non-military computer security standards
to public scrutiny and to limit NSA's role in the creation of
such standards.
CPSR previously has questioned the role of NSA in
developing the so-called "digital signature standard" (DSS), a
communications authentication technology that NIST proposed for
government-wide use in 1991. After CPSR sued NIST in a FOIA
lawsuit last year, the civilian agency disclosed for the first
time that NSA had, in fact, developed that security standard.
NSA is due to file papers in federal court next week justifying
the classification of records concerning its creation of the
DSS.
David Sobel, CPSR Legal Counsel, called the
administration's apparent commitment to the privacy of
electronic communications, as reflected in today's official
statement, "a step in the right direction." But he questioned
the propriety of NSA's role in the process and the apparent
secrecy that has thus far shielded the development process from
public scrutiny. "At a time when we are moving towards the
development of a new information infrastructure, it is vital
that standards designed to protect personal privacy be
established openly and with full public participation. It is
not appropriate for NSA -- an agency with a long tradition of
secrecy and opposition to effective civilian cryptography -- to
play a leading role in the development process."
CPSR is a national public-interest alliance of computer
industry professionals dedicated to examining the impact of
technology on society. CPSR has 21 chapters in the U.S. and
maintains offices in Palo Alto, California, Cambridge,
Massachusetts and Washington, DC. For additional information on
CPSR, call (415) 322-3778 or e-mail <cpsr@csli.stanford.edu>.
-----------------------------------------------
Regards,
Ian Ameline.
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In article <1993Apr30.162636.22327@cc.ic.ac.uk> ewolff@ps.ic.ac.uk (Erik The Viking) writes:
>She has been to a doctor and taken the ordinary (?)
>tests and her values were regarded as low. The doctor (and my wife) are
>not very interested in starting medication as this "deactivates" the
>gland, giving life-long dependency to the drug (hormone?).
This is ridiculous, and your doctor sounds like a nut, if what is
reported here is what the doctor actually said. If your wife's
pancreas stops producing insulin and therefore becomes diabetic, she'll
need insulin replacement. That doesn't mean she's "dependent" on
insulin, anymore than she was beforehand--if her body doesn't make
enough, she'll have to get it elsewhere. Oral thyroid replacement
hormone therapy is the cornerstone of treatment for hypothyroidism, and
it's really the only effective therapy available anyway. Plus, it's
cheap. Taking thyroid hormone when it isn't needed does cause your
thyroid gland to reduce its own production of the hormone, but that's a
_feature_, not a _bug_, and it's irrelevant in any case in the face of
hypothyroidism, because her problem that her gland isn't producing
enough. There isn't a clinical phenomenon of "thyroid insufficiency"
caused by a sudden discontinuation of exogenous thyroid hormone
analogous to adrenal insufficiency caused by the sudden cessation of
prolonged administration of corticosteroids, so there should be no
worry about inappropriately "suppressing" the thyroid gland.
>The last couple of
>monthes she has been seeing a hoemoepath (sp?) and been given
>some drops to re-activate either her thyroidal gland and/or the
>'message-center' in the brain (sorry about the approximate language,
>but I haven't got many clues to what the english terms are, but the
>brain-area is called the 'hypofyse' in norwegian.)
Homeopathy is nonsense. Tell her to stop wasting her money, health and time,
and get her to a legitimate doctor who will be in a position to make
a proper diagnosis and recommend the right therapy.
--
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
| 13sci.med
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In article <1993Apr25.135853.5725@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> kwmiller@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Kenneth W Miller) writes:
>Ken
Again, tell us about it Ken!
-=- Andy -=-
_______________________________________________________________________________
Andy Belville || It's taken me a long time, but I've
belvilad@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu || fallen in Love with a beautiful woman.
_______________________________________________________________________________
| 6misc.forsale
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When do the new M.benz "C" class cars come out?
The new nomenclature that MB has adopted will it only apply to the "c"
class cars or will it also apply to the current "s" class cars.
Does any one know what will replace the current 300 class since the "c"
class will be smaller and more in line with the current 190.
Another question, Is BMW realising a new body style on the current 7
series and 5 series. They seem to be a bit dated to me.
| 7rec.autos
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In article <C5v9Du.D76@acsu.buffalo.edu> v111qheg@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (P.VASILION) writes:
>Not necessarily. If the body had been denatured (cooked) or dehydrated due
>to the heat, a projectile needs only a minimal kinetic force to penetrate.
>In fire aftermaths, bodies tend to fall apart or loose large chunks of
>meat with little effort. Medical Examiners tend not to like cleaning up
>such scenes.
>
>As such, if the body had been suitably cooked, a bullet comming from a
>magazine explosion would more than likely have enough force to enter and
>thus it would be difficult to determine whether a bullet entered at the
>time of death, or much later, unless you were trained to look for the
>evidence. Texas Rangers are not pathologists.
>
>P.Vasilion
This is quite corect, but a bullet hitting a burned body with little energy
will show virtually no deformation, ie a hollow point probably would not
expand, an FMJ would be "pristene". Also the bullets will not be marked
with the lands ang grooves of a barrel, because they didn't come out of
one. A good pathologist should be able to notice this right away.
Let us hope that the ME's that handle these bodies are more competent
then the ones who did JFK's body.
JAG
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This is the most unmitigated bilge I've seen in a while. Jim Brown obviously
has possession of the right-wing token.
> Diplomatic alternatives, including sanctions, were ineffective.
"In December, former national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski told a
Senate committee that sanctions were costing Iraq $100 million per day, and
that the multinational coalition could take all the time in the world.
Iraq, he suggested, was losing badly every day it defied the UN demands,
while the community of nations won every day -- with no taking of life or
loss of life." -- FCNL Washington Newsletter.
> The world is full of evil, and circumstances are not perfect. Many
> innocents suffer due to the wrongful actions of others. It it regretable,
> but that's The-Way-It-Is.
Wrongful actions of murderers like leaders of the US government, perhaps?
Regrettable, of course; The-Way-It-Is - certainly not.
> The media is not totally monolithic. ... There are even conservative
> sources out there if you know where to look. (Hurrah for Rush!)
Good heavens! An escapee from Rush Limbot Land! "Conservative", my ass.
> And BTW, the reason I brought up the blanket-bombing in Germany was
> because you were bemoaning the Iraqi civilian casualties as being
> "so deplorable". Yet blanket bombing was instituted because bombing
> wasn't accurate enough to hit industrial/military targets in a
> decisive way by any other method at that time. But in the Gulf War,
> precision bombing was the norm.
BULLSHIT!!! In the Gulf Massacre, 7% of all ordnance used was "smart." The
rest - that's 93% - was just regular, dumb ol' iron bombs and stuff. Have
you forgotten that the Pentagon definition of a successful Patriot launch
was when the missile cleared the launching tube with no damage? Or that a
successful interception of a Scud was defined as "the Patriot and Scud
passed each other in the same area of the sky"?
And of the 7% that was the "smart" stuff, 35% hit. Again - try to follow me
here - that means 65% of this "smart" arsenal missed.
> The stories
> of "hundreds of thousands" of Iraqi civilian dead is just plain bunk.
Prove it. I have a source that says that to date, the civilian death count
(er, excuse me, I mean "collateral damage") is about 200,000.
-s
--
"No one has attempted to calculate the costs of an execution in
Washington state, but studies elsewhere suggest it costs far more than
incarceration.
"California is spending more than $90 million annually on capital cases,
and until this year hadn't executed anyone since 1972. Texas, the national
leader in the number of executions, spends an estimated $2.3 million per
execution. That compares to an average cost of incarceration in Washington
state of $25,000 per maximum-security prisoner per year."
--
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"Take this cross and garlic; here's a Mezuzah if he's Jewish; a page of the
Koran if he's a Muslim; and if he's a Zen Buddhist, you're on your own."
Member of the League for Programming Freedom - write to lpf@uunet.uu.net
| 0alt.atheism
|
heathman@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Michael Heathman) writes:
> Professionals who train guard dogs, when polled, gave themselves a
>1 in 4 chance of survival tackling a trained dog unarmed. A trained guard
>dog is not to be trifled with. An untrained mutt may be another story.
Of course *they'd* say that. They're trying to sell their services.
| 8rec.motorcycles
|
In article <115846@bu.edu>
jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:
(Deletion)
>Certainly. It is a central aspect of Islam to show mercy and to give
>those who've done wrong (even presuming Rushdie _did_ violate Islamic
>Law) and committed crimes. This was the basis for my posts regarding
>leniency which seemed not to have penetrated Benedikt's skull.
You have demanded harsh punishments of several crimes. Repeating
offenders have slipped in only as justification of harsh punishment at
all. Typically religious doublespeak. Whenever you have contradictory
statements you choose the possibility that suits your current argument.
It is disgusting that someone with ideas that would make Theodore KKKaldis
feel cozy can go along under the protection of religion.
Gregg, tell us, would you kill idolaters?
Benedikt
| 0alt.atheism
|
Eric Bosco (ebosco@us.oracle.com) wrote:
[ First of all, please edit your postings. Wading through 50 lines of
quoted crud, which people have already read, makes people much less
likely to help you. Of course, if you don't want to be helped, that's
your problem. ;-) ]
> Is this true??? I was under the impression that people on the net had both
> SCSI and IDE working together.
No, it's not true. You can get SCSI and IDE to work together, but
there are restrictions (at least with the Adaptec 1542):
* You MUST boot from the IDE drive. There is no way to boot from the
SCSI drive if you have both IDE and SCSI drives.
* You MUST disable the SCSI ROM BIOS (I'm not sure about this, though),
and so you must also use some special drivers to access the SCSI
drive. (Hmm. I know that you have to disable something related to
the SCSI BIOS, but I'm not sure if it is the ROM itself.)
Back in February, someone asked about IDE and SCSI (this question
gets asked again and again). At the end of this message, I've included
an edited copy of my reply. You might find it interesting.
-- Darryl Okahata
Internet: darrylo@sr.hp.com
DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not
constitute the support, opinion or policy of Hewlett-Packard or of the
little green men that have been following him all day.
===============================================================================
> 1) Is it worth it to get SCSI over IDE? Will there be a noticable
> decrease in access time/increase in Xfer rate?
For MSDOS applications, ISA-based SCSI and IDE controllers
generally have comparable throughput. You might get slightly higher
throughput with a SCSI disk, but you'll also pay more for the disk
($30-$100 and up, in some cases). You'll also pay much, much more for a
good SCSI controller.
Note that good SCSI controllers really show their power if they're
used with a good multitasking operating system (like a PC Unix).
Unfortunately, neither MSDOS nor Windows 3.1 is a good multitasking
operating system. The performance advantage of SCSI controllers is
mostly wasted with these, which leaves the advantage of being able to
connect multiple devices to the SCSI bus as the only advantage.
However, note that you can expect to pay a premium for SCSI devices.
If you're only going to be using MSDOS, stick with IDE. It's
cheaper, and you'll have less headaches.
> 4) Will virtually any SCSI device chain into the controller for my
> hard-drive (bernoulli box, CD-rom, Tape Drive, etc).
[ Note: the following is true for MSDOS/Windows only. Who knows what
the future holds for Windows NT and Unix??? ]
No. Generally, you have to find drivers for each SCSI device,
which probably don't exist unless you're using one of the "better"/"high
performance" SCSI controllers. These are typically bus-mastering SCSI
controllers that cost around $180-$400 (street prices) and up, and
drivers that allow you to connect these controllers to popular
name-brand SCSI devices either come with the card, or can be purchased
(for under $100 list price). Examples of such driver kits are:
* Adaptec's EZ SCSI kit (list: $75). This works only with Adaptec SCSI
controllers.
* CorelSCSI! (from the same people who make CorelDRAW!) (list: $99 (?)).
This driver kit will supposedly work with any SCSI controller card
that has an ASPI driver, like the Adaptec.
Central Point's PC Tools for DOS 8.0 supports a number of SCSI tape
drives (the documentation lists 40 tape drives). Unfortunately, it
works only with Adaptec controllers.
> 5) Are there likely to be other problems/incompatibilities with a
> SCSI controller and sound cards/video accelerators/and similar
> equipment.
Yes, you will run into problems, if you're using a
high-performance, bus-mastering SCSI controller. This doesn't sound
right, doesn't it? It's true, though. With one of these controllers,
you'll probably have to tweak your system to get it to work with sound
cards, floppy-controller-based tape drives (like the CMS Jumbo 250), and
Windows 3.1. I know. I've been to h*ll and back getting my SCSI
controller to work with various hardware/software (thank God for tape
backups). If you want a copy of my "Adaptec 1542 hints and tips" file,
send email.
These problems aren't really the fault of the SCSI controller card;
the problems are really with the general hardware and software design of
the PC (e.g., no standards). However, adding a bus-mastering SCSI card
is what brings these problems to the surface and makes them visible.
SCSI holds a lot of promise, but you can run into a lot of PC
compatibility problems. If you're planning on using only MSDOS/Windows
3.1, stick with IDE. If you want to use Windows NT or a PC Unix, you'll
have to make some hard decisions: a good SCSI controller and more than
one SCSI hard disk will probably give you excellent performance, at the
possible cost of MSDOS compatibility. [ I say, "probably", because,
while I know this to be true with a PC Unix, I don't know if this really
will be true of Windows NT. I suspect that it will, but I don't know
for sure. ]
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
|
C'mon you guys.
Motorcycles & booze don't mix.
Nuff said.
--
Bruce Clarke B.C. Environment
e-mail: bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
| 8rec.motorcycles
|
In article <C5HEDH.C7A@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM>, mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson) writes:
>In <1qf5kb$8pq@transfer.stratus.com> cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) writes:
>
>|But you ARE describing US gun law, in a vast number of places!
>
>|The problem is that the system falls apart when the government decides
>|not to PROSECUTE under those laws. That is, the criminal is told:
>
>|"Plead guilty to aggravated assault and save us the effort of a full
>|trial, and we'll drop the gun charges."
>
>|So the laws exist, and the penalties are as you say, but nobody is ever
>|prosecuted under these laws. They are "traded away" for easy pleas.
>
>Having such gun laws on the books is still better than nothing.
>What would the DA have traded away in order to get the guilty plea if the
>gun law had not been in effect.
If you can't convict 'em, don't bust 'em! Plea bargins are for lazy DAs, weak
cases and questionable cops.IMnotsoHO.
--
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| 18talk.politics.misc
|
In <30136@ursa.bear.com> halat@pooh.bears (Jim Halat) writes:
>In article <1qjd3o$nlv@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>, frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
>>Firstly, science has its basis in values, not the other way round.
>>So you better explain what objective atoms are, and how we get them
>>from subjective values, before we go any further.
>Atoms are not objective. They aren't even real. What scientists call
>an atom is nothing more than a mathematical model that describes
>certain physical, observable properties of our surroundings. All
>of which is subjective.
Omigod, it's an operationalist! Sorry, Jim, but the idea that a theory
explaining a myriad of distinctly different observations is merely a
"model" is more than sensible people can accept -- your phobia about
objective reality notwithstanding.
--
Mark Pundurs
any resemblance between my opinions and those
of Wolfram Research, Inc. is purely coincidental
| 19talk.religion.misc
|
In article <1993Apr19.141112.15018@cs.nott.ac.uk>, eczcaw@mips.nott.ac.uk (A.Wainwright) writes:
> Hi,
>
> I have been having an argument about the origins of the bible lately with
> a theist acquaintance. He stated that thousands of bibles were discovered
> at a certain point in time which were syllable-perfect. This therefore
> meant that there must have been one copy at a certain time; the time quoted
> by my acquaintace was approximately 50 years after the death of Jesus.
You can tell your friend from me that I was in a publisher's
warehouse one time and saw thousands of copies of The Joy of
Cooking and every one of them was syllable-perfect.
I have since sold all I own and become a follower of The Joy
of Cooking. The incident I mentioned convinced me, once and
for all, that The Joy of Cooking is inspired by god and the
one true path to his glory.
Dean Kaflowitz May the Sauce be With You
| 0alt.atheism
|
In article <MJS.93Apr22194125@behemoth.genetics.wisc.edu>
mjs@behemoth.genetics.wisc.edu (Mike Schmelzer) writes:
>
>>> Let me ask you this. Would you trust Richard Nixon with your
>>>crypto keys? I wouldn't.
>
>> I take it you mean President Nixon, not private citizen Nixon. Sure.
>> Nothing I'm doing would be of the slightest interest to President Nixon .
>
>Mr. Sternlight, your naivete and historical ignorance is appalling.
>
>[ History lesson detailing 1968-74 deleted. ]
Nonsense! I wasn't asked if Larry O'Brien should trust Nixon with his keys,
but whether I would.
David
--
David Sternlight Great care has been taken to ensure the accuracy of
our information, errors and omissions excepted.
| 11sci.crypt
|
I've just managed to get xdm running from an NCR 3000 (an SVR4 486 box
running XFree86 1.2) to my NCD XDisplay. It's pretty much working, but
I'm encountering a weird error. I'm attempting to start an xterm from
my .xsession file, but nothing happens. Redirecting stderr to a file
using 'exec 2>$HOME/.xerrors' in .xsession reveals the error message:
"xterm: Error 14, errno 1: Not owner"
Now, if I start xterm from the window manager, or from the command line,
it works fine. And starting other clients, like the window manager (mwm),
and a clock, from my .xsession also works.
Anyone encountered this? Suggestions?
aTdHvAaNnKcSe
--
Des Herriott, / As a wise man once said,
Micro Focus, Newbury. /
+44 (0635) 565354 / "It takes a lot of brains to be smart,
dnh@mfltd.co.uk / but it takes some neck to be a giraffe."
| 5comp.windows.x
|
>Hello,
>I heard that a certain disease (toxoplasmosys?) is transmitted by cats which
>can harm the unborn fetus. Does anybody know about it? Is it a problem to
>have a cat in the same apartment?
See the rec.pets.cats FAQ or any doctor or vet for more information.
I am not any of the above, but we do have a couple of cats.
It is transmitted through the fecal matter, so a pregnant woman should
avoid cleaning the cat tray and you should both wash hands before
preparing or eating meals. The latter is sound advice at any time of
course.
Apart from that, its no great problem. You certainly do not need to
get rid of your cats.
Paul.
--
Paul Johnson (paj@gec-mrc.co.uk). | Tel: +44 245 73331 ext 3245
--------------------------------------------+----------------------------------
These ideas and others like them can be had | GEC-Marconi Research is not
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| 13sci.med
|
In article <2BD07605.18974@news.service.uci.edu> rbarris@orion.oac.uci.edu (Robert C. Barris) writes:
> We
>got to see the unit displaying full-screen movies using the CompactVideo codec
>(which was nice, very little blockiness showing clips from Jaws and Backdraft)
>... and a very high frame rate to boot (like 30fps).
Acorn Replay running on a 25MHz ARM 3 processor (the ARM 3 is about 20% slower
than the ARM 6) does this in software (off a standard CD-ROM). 16 bit colour at
about the same resolution (so what if the computer only has 8 bit colour
support, real-time dithering too...). The 3D0/O is supposed to have a couple of
DSPs - the ARM being used for housekeeping.
>I'm not sure how a Centris/20MHz 040 stacks up against the 25 MHz ARM in
>the 3DO box. Obviously the ARM is faster, but how much?
A 25MHz ARM 6xx should clock around 20 ARM MIPS, say 18 flat out. Depends
really on the surrounding system and whether you are talking ARM6x or ARM6xx
(the latter has a cache, and so is essential to run at this kind of speed with
slower memory).
I'll stop saying things there 'cos I'll hopefully be working for ARM after
graduation...
Mike
PS Don't pay heed to what reps from Philips say; if the 3D0/O doesn't beat the
pants off 3DI then I'll eat this postscript.
--
____________________________________________________________________________
\ / / Michael Williams Part II Computer Science Tripos
|\/|\/\ MJW19@phx.cam.ac.uk University of Cambridge
| |(__)Cymdeithas Genedlaethol Traddodiad Troi Teigrod Mwythus Ben I Waered
| 1comp.graphics
|
halat@pooh.bears (Jim Halat) writes:
>What is the fact of evolution? There is a difference between calling
>evolution a fact and talking about the theory of evolution providing
>facts (I happen to think the latter is more accurate ).
I hate doing this, because it's been done so many times before, but...
Evolution, in the nonscientific sense, is change. Although it is
often used in a colloquial manner to refer to phenomena that tend
toward higher complexity and ability, evolution simply implies change,
for good or for bad. In the scientific sense, evolution is merely the
change in allele frequencies for a given population over a period of
time. This is usually what people refer to when they discuss the
scientific fact of evolution. We observe such shifts in allele
frequencies occurring all the time, so it is trivial to conclude that
evolution is a scientific fact.
The mechanisms that enable such changes in allele frequencies are
collectively known as the theory of evolution. Darwin's natural
selection is one such theory. Genetic drift is another. Gene flow is
still another.
Evolution is a fact and a theory. (I posted Larry Moran's lengthy
article on this topic a couple days ago. Why don't you go back and
read it?)
--
Brett J. Vickers "Don't go around saying the world owes you
bvickers@ics.uci.edu a living. The world owes you nothing.
It was here first." - Mark Twain
| 0alt.atheism
|
In <1993Apr25.030936.21859@nysernet.org>, astein@nysernet.org (Alan Stein) wrote:
#
# "D. C. Sessions" <dcs@witsend.tnet.com> writes:
#
# ># So Steve: Lets here, what IS zionism?
#
# > Assuming that you mean 'hear', you weren't 'listening': he just
# > told you, "Zionism is Racism." This is a tautological statement.
#
# I think you are confusing "tautological" with "false and misleading."
No, but you're right that I didn't express myself well.
The dialog went:
A: "Zionism is racism."
B: "What IS zionism?"
DC: "You weren't listening, were you?"
In other words, the first statement *defined* a Zionism of discourse.
Everything else was redundant.
--- D. C. Sessions Speaking for myself ---
--- Note new network address: dcs@witsend.tnet.com ---
--- Author (and everything else!) of TMail (DOS mail/news shell) ---
| 17talk.politics.mideast
|
strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
>
>>What follows is my opinion. It is not asserted to be "the truth" so no
>>flames, please. It comes out of a background of 20 years as a senior
>>corporate staff executive in two Fortune 50 companies.
>
>>I'd be happy to use a crypto system supplied by the NSA for business, if
>>they told me it was more secure than DES, and in particular resistant to
>>attempts by Japanese, French, and other competitive companies and
>>governments to break.
>
>>I'd be happy to do so even with escrowed keys, provided I was happy about
>>the bona fides of the escrow agencies (the Federal Reserve would certainly
>>satisfy me, as would something set up by one of the big 8 accounting firms).
I don't doubt that this will be the attitude of many corporate leaders.
It's understandable--most corporate execs don't know much about cryptology,
and it's easy to get taken in by someone peddling snake oil. And, the
proposed scheme *is* a major improvement in telephone security to what
exists now.
The problem is that, with any security scheme of this kind, you have to
concern yourself with the weakest link in the chain. I suspect that NSA
has put a fairly strong encryption algorithm in this wiretap chip of theirs,
probably at least as strong as (say) DES in OFB-mode. Unfortunately, the
existence of the key-registry system seems to make possible all kinds of
possible attacks at a small fraction of the expense of trying to build (say)
a DES keysearch machine.
As originally described, it sounded like any police / court combination
could acquire the key for a given chip. I hope that's not the case, since
it would imply a glaring hole. (How much does it cost to find *one* crooked
jodge and *one* crooked cop? Especially for a foreign intelligence agency
or organized crime boss?) However, even if more intelligent schemes are used
to allow access to the unencrypted phone conversations, there will be weak-
nesses. They may be very expensive, and very difficult. But who would
trust his/her confidential information to an encryption scheme that, for
(say) $100,000 could by cracked one time in a hundred? (DES, for all the
complaints about a 56-bit key, would probably cost several million dollars
to build a keysearch machine for.)
How many million dollars would the confidential phone messages of
the GM headquarters be worth to Nissan, Chrysler, or Audi? How about
home phones of major execs and important engineers and designers?
"Gee, Mr Jones, I understand you've had some financial problems lately.
Maybe I can help..."
>>I'd trust something from the NSA long before I'd trust something from some
>>Swiss or anybody Japanese.
Indeed, if NSA really designed the algorithm to be secure, it's very likely
as secure as IDEA or 2-key DES. However, the system as a whole isn't resistant
to "practical cryptanalysis." In _The Puzzle Palace_, Bamford describes how
several NSA employees were turned by foreign (presumably KGB) agents, despite
security measures that I doubt any Big 8 accounting firm could match. And
NSA confidential data was *not* subject to being requested by thousands of
police organizations and courts across the land.
--John Kelsey, c445585@mizzou1.missouri.edu
| 11sci.crypt
|
In article 1r1lp1INN752@mojo.eng.umd.edu, chuck@eng.umd.edu (Chuck Harris - WA3UQV) writes:
>In article <1993Apr20.050550.4660@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> j979@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (FULLER M) writes:
>>Does a "not harmful" gassing mean that you can, with a little willpower,
>>stay inside indefinitely without suffering any serious health problems?
>>
>>If so, why was CS often employed against tunnels in Vietnam?
>>
>>What IS the difference, anyway?
>
>CS "tear-gas" was used in Vietnam because it makes you wretch so hard that
>your stomach comes out thru your throat. Well, not quite that bad, but
>you can't really do much to defend yourself while you are blowing cookies.
>
>Chuck Harris - WA3UQV
>chuck@eng.umd.edu
>
Interesting... after several hours worth of exposure, do you still posess
the presence of mind to be able to determine how to escape from an inferno
surrounding you? In other words, is it possible that the prolonged gassing
disoriented the wackos enough that possibility of escape was rendered
questionable?
| 16talk.politics.guns
|
In article <f2dutxH@quack.kfu.com>, pharvey@quack.kfu.com (Paul Harvey) writes:
|> In article <1993Apr20.144825.756@ra.royalroads.ca>
|> mlee@post.RoyalRoads.ca (Malcolm Lee) writes:
|> >If one does not follow the teachings of Christ, he is NOT Christian.
|> >Too easy?
|>
|> That would exclude most self-proclaimed "Christians."
|> Do you follow the Ten Commandments?
As a matter of fact, yes I do or at least I strive to. I will not
be so proud as to boast that my faith is 100%. I am still human
and imperfect and therefore, liable to sin. Thankfully, there is
opportunity for repentence and forgiveness.
God be with you,
Malcolm Lee :)
| 19talk.religion.misc
|
I am trying to design a small 90mW 472MHz FM transmitter for remote alarm
use.
Is there an FM transmitter IC available that can be used for this purpose?
Any help, circuits, info etc will be greatfully accepted.
Please reply to bsc_graham@seqeb.gov.au
Thanks in advance.
Graham Castledine.
| 12sci.electronics
|
1975 H-1 500
Brand new top end
Chambers
Clean + black!
1,500$
Paul: (510) 839-2161
Please do not contact this email address: contact the seller.
Cheers
DAVE
| 8rec.motorcycles
|
>Hi guys....
> I'm looking to answe a bit of trivia. What hockeplayers have
>appeared on major talk shows on TV (i.e., Letterman, Carson/Leno,
>Arsenio, etc.....i.e. shows of a national nature--include Canadian equivalents
>if you can think of any)? This can include NHL, Olympic, and World Champion-
>ship players. I'm pretty sure I've seen Gretzky and Lemieux, but I was
>wondering if there were any others...
I saw Messier and Leetch shooting at a camera on Letterman(?). I
could have been any show though, since I watch NONE of those late
night shows very regularly.
-John Santore
Philadelphia Flyers in '93-'94!
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____________________
/ \ "We break the surface tension
\_________ ____ \ with our wild kinetic dreams"
/ / \ \ -Rush, Grand Designs
\_______ / (*) ) )
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\_____ / / /
/ / \_______/ John Santore (jsbh@andrew.cmu.edu)
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| 10rec.sport.hockey
|
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In article <1r5acf$nh1@agate.berkeley.edu> robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:
>Now, now, before we get too carried away here....
>
>Keep in mind that owning any car in Korea is a luxury that only the ruling
>class can afford. Every government agency worth its salt finds some reason
>to levy a tax on car ownership; last I heard, there were seven different
>fees to pay to own a car. I believe this is the sort of petty bureaucratic
>inefficiency that new President Kim Young Sam wants to eradicate. Basically,
>I think the rules came into place as bureaucrats from plebian backgrounds
>wanted to wreak revenge on the ruling class. In exchange, zaibatsu's like
>Hyundai screwed over smaller companies, perpetuating a vicious cycle.
>I have faith that Korean people can potentially build cars as well as anyone
>else, but for now Hyundai cars seem to reflect the tensions within society,
>of screwy components that won't work together. Stubborn like a mule, the
>car either won't go forward or won't stop at all.
>
Hahahahahaha. *gasp* *pant* Hm, I'm not sure whether the above
was just a silly remark or a serious remark. But in case there are
some misconceptions, I think Henry Robertson hasn't updated his data
file on Korea since...mid 1970s. Owning a car in Korea is no longer
a luxury. Most middle class people in Korea can afford a car and do
have at least one car. The problem in Korea, especially in Seoul, is
that there are just so many privately-owned cars, as well as taxis and
buses, the rush-hour has become a 24 hour phenomenon and that there is
no place to park. Last time I heard, back in January, the Kim Administration
wanted to legislate a law requireing a potential car owner to provide
his or her own parking area, just like they do in Japan.
Also, Henry would be glad to know that Hyundai isn't the only
car manufacturer in Korea. Daewoo has always manufactured cars and
I believe Kia is back in business as well. Imported cars, such as
Mercury Sable are becoming quite popular as well, though they are still
quite expensive.
Finally, please ignore Henry's posting about Korean politics
and bureaucracy. He's quite uninformed.
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| 7rec.autos
|
I am looking for some clarification on a subject that I am trying to find some
information on.
How is HSV-2 (Herpes) transmitted? I currently know that it can be transmitted
during inflammation but, what I am looking for is if it can be transmitted
during in other periods. Also, I want to know if you can be accurately tested
for it while you are not showing symtoms?
If you can help I would greatly appreciate it.
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dt4%cs@hub.ucsb.edu (David E. Goggin) writes:
>I'm fairly new to these groups, tho' some have heard from me before.
Welcome.
>I'd like to get your comments on a question that has been on my mind a
>lot: What morals/ethics apply to dreams and out-of-body incidents?
>In normal dreams, you can't control anything, so obviously
>you aren't morally responsible for your actions.
Hm. I get a little queasy around the phrase "aren't morally
responsible", perhaps because I've heard it misused so many times.
(I remember in college some folk trying to argue that a person who
was drunk was not morally responsible for his actions.) In general,
most folk can't control their dreams, but perhaps what you do all day
and think about has some impact on them, hm? And I'm not sure what
"actions" are in a dream. But I will note that Jesus does seem adamant
about the fact that our thought-life is at least as important as
our actions. Go lightly with this argument - we are all morally
responsible for *who we are* and dreams might well be an important
part of that.
>Now, there seem to be 3 alternatives:
>1) Dreams and OOBEs are totally mental phenomena. In this case no morality
>applies beyond what might be called 'mental hygiene', that is, not trying
>to think about anything evil, or indulgining in overly sexy or violent
>thoughts.
I don't know a thing about Out Of Body Experiences. I've had dreams, some
fairly vivid ones; is an OOBE just a very vivid dream? I would argue that
extreme interest in this sort of phenomena is a tad risky; it is probably
much better to think about who Jesus is, and who we are in relation to that,
than to cultivate a strong interest in dreams. Unless you feel plagued by
dreams that are painful and out of control; then pray about it and/or get help.
>2) Dreams and OOBEs have a reality of their own (i.e. are 'another plane')
>Evidence for this is that often dreams and OOBEs are sometimes done in
>common by more than one person.
What on Earth is your definition of "often"? I know exactly one case of
two people who had substantially the same dream at the same time, and
as they were brothers who had spent the day doing the same things I could
see why their dreams might be similiar. Anyway, the only "other plane" I
know of is the spiritual realm. I don't think *anyone's* dreams,
perhaps outside the occasional prophet's, represent actual actions on an
alternate plane. If they were real actions, or conscious thoughts, then
yes they would have direct moral significance.
>3) Like (2), but here we assume that [garbled text: "because the dream occurs
in a different environment, then different moral laws apply" is my guess of
what you said.]
I don't see the slightest hint in Christian writings that ones "environment"
changes the way a person determines what is moral. For a Christian won't
it *always* come down to "what Jesus would have us do?"
>So... There it is. Is one of these cases the truth, or does anyone know
>of another alternative? respond by post or email.
Truth? I don't claim to be an expert in dreams. I'll note that the Bible
doesn't talk much about dreams outside of the realm of God using them to speak
to us, with the caveat that such messages are not always very clear, as it
warns somewhere in the OT. Given that, I would not give them a lot of
attention unless you feel your dreams are trying to tell you something.
I would discount talk of "alternate planes," though. The only places such
concepts are commonly bandied about are for the most part hostile to
Christianity, though I've run into the occasional exception. If you are,
or want to be, a Christian, you want to be very careful about ideas like
this.
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In article <1993Apr22.204921.12644@convex.com>, tobias@convex.com (Allen
Tobias) wrote:
>
> I live in the backyard of the folks who make the Stalker radar system. The
> Valentine 1 has saved me many, many, many times from the stealth revenue
> enhancement traps of the local area. I have had all the major brand detectors,
> and, IMHO, nothing else even comes close to the V1!
>
I hadn't heard of the Valentine-1 before. Car&Driver and other auto
magazines
recommend BEL detectors. I was considering their latest - the 966STi -
which picks up Super Wideband Ka and Laser as well. It also avoids
radar detector detectors (although I really don't care about this since I
doubt I'll be driving in Virginia anytime soon - or have any other states
also made detectors iilegal?)
How does the Valentine-1 compare with the BEL products?
Brian Donnell
| 7rec.autos
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In article <1483500354@igc.apc.org> Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org> writes:
>
>From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>
>Subject: Final Solution for Gaza ?
>
>While Israeli Jews fete the uprising of the Warsaw ghetto,
"fete"??? Since this word both formally and commonly refers to
positive/joyous events, your misuse of it here is rather unsettling.
>they repress by violent means the uprising of the Gaza ghetto
>and attempt to starve the Gazans.
I certainly abhor those Israeli policies and attitudes that are
abusive towards the Palestinians/Gazans. Given that, however, there
*is no comparison* between the reality of the Warsaw Ghetto and in
Gaza.
>
>The right of the Gazan population to resist occupation is
>recognized in international law and by any person with a sense of
>justice.
Just as international law recognizes the right of the occupying
entity to maintain order, especially in the face of elements
that are consciously attempting to disrupt the civil structure.
Ironically, international law recognizes each of these focusses
(that of the occupied and the occupier) even though they are
inherently in conflict.
>
>As Israel denies Gazans the only two options which are compatible
>with basic human rights and international law, that of becoming
>Israeli citizens with full rights or respecting their right for
>self-determination, it must be concluded that the Israeli Jewish
>society does not consider Gazans full human beings.
Israel certainly cannot, and should not, continue its present
policies towards Gazan residents. There is, however, a third
alternative- the creation and implementation of a jewish "dhimmi"
system with Gazans/Palestinians as benignly "protected" citizens.
Would you find THAT as acceptable in that form as you do with
regard to Islam's policies towards its minorities?
>Whether they have some Final Solution up their sleeve ?
It is a race, then? Between Israel's anti-Palestinian/Gazan
"Final Solution" and the Arab World's anti-Israel/jewish
"Final Solution". Do you favor one? neither?
>
>I urge all those who have slight human compassion to do whatever
>they can to help the Gazans regain their full human, civil and
>political rights, to which they are entitled as human beings.
Since there is justifiable worry by various parties that Israel
and Arab/Palestinian "final solution" intentions exist, isn't it
important that BOTH Israeli *and* Palestinian/Gazan "rights"
be secured?
>
>Elias Davidsson Iceland
>
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fax#: 714,8568441 University of California - Irvine
Home tel#: 714,8563446 Irvine, CA 92717
| 17talk.politics.mideast
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In article <1993Apr15.164940.11632@mercury.unt.edu> Sean McMains <mcmains@unt.edu> writes:
>In article <1993Apr15.144843.19549@rchland.ibm.com> Ricardo Hernandez
>Muchado, ricardo@rchland.vnet.ibm.com writes:
>> And CD-I's CPU doesn't help much either. I understand it is
>>a 68070 (supposedly a variation of a 68000/68010) running at something
>>like 7Mhz. With this speed, you *truly* need sprites.
>
>Wow! A 68070! I'd be very interested to get my hands on one of these,
>especially considering the fact that Motorola has not yet released the
>68060, which is supposedly the next in the 680x0 lineup. 8-D
Don't get too excited; Signetics, not Motorola, gave the 68070 its number.
The 68070, if I understand rightly, uses the 68000 instruction set, and has
an on-chip serial port and DMA. (It will run at up to 15 MHz--I'm typing
at a computer using a 68070 running at that rate, so I know that it can
do so--so I seriously doubt the clock rate that ricardo@rchland.vnet.ibm.com
claims.)
James Jones
| 1comp.graphics
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jgreen@trumpet.calpoly.edu (James Thomas Green) writes:
>If they had beaten us, I speculate that the US would have gone
>head and done some landings, but we also would have been more
>determined to set up a base (both in Earth Orbit and on the
>Moon). Whether or not we would be on Mars by now would depend
>upon whether the Soviets tried to go. Setting up a lunar base
>would have stretched the budgets of both nations and I think
>that the military value of a lunar base would outweigh the value
>of going to Mars (at least in the short run). Thus we would
>have concentrated on the moon.
Great speculation - I remember being proud on behalf of all the free
world (you think that way when you are seven years old) that we had
got there first. Now I'm almost sorry that it worked out that way.
I guess the soviets would have taken the victory seriously too, and
would almost certainly not have fallen victim to the complacency that
overtook the US program. Perhaps stretching to match US efforts would
have destabilized them sooner than it did in fact - and in the tradition
of Marvel Comics 'What If', this destabilization in the Brezhnev era might
have triggered the third world war. Hmm, maybe it was a giant leap after all.
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| 14sci.space
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Alan Carter writes:
>> 3. On April 19, a NO-OP command was sent to reset the command loss timer to
>> 264 hours, its planned value during this mission phase.
> This activity is regularly reported in Ron's interesting posts. Could
> someone explain what the Command Loss Timer is?
The name is rather descriptive. It's a command to the spacecraft that tells
it "If you don't hear from Earth after 264 hours, assume something is wrong
with your (the spacecraft) attitude, and go into a preprogrammed search mode
in an attempt to reacquire the signal from Earth."
The spacecraft and Earth are not in constant communication with each other.
Earth monitors the telemetry from the spacecraft, and if everything is fine,
there's no reason to send it any new information. But from the spacecraft's
point of view, no information from Earth could mean either everything is
fine, or that the spacecraft has lost signal acquisition. Just how long
should the spacecraft wait before it decides that something is wrong and
begins to take corrective action? That "how long" is the command loss timer.
During relatively inactive cruise phases, the command loss timer can be set
to rather long values. In this case, Earth is telling Galileo "expect to
hear back from us sometime within the next 264 hours".
| 14sci.space
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Thanks to whoever posted this wonderful parody of people who post without
reading the FAQ! I was laughing for a good 5 minutes. Were there any
parts of the FAQ that weren't mentioned? I think there might have been one
or two...
Please don't tell me this wasn't a joke. I'm not ready to hear that yet...
Brendan
| 0alt.atheism
|
In article <4615@isgtec.isgtec.com> robert@isgtec.com (Robert Osborne) writes:
>Michael Frederick Rhein (mfrhein@wpi.WPI.EDU) wrote:
># In article <93109.13404334AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET> <34AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET> writes:
># >napalm, then let the wood stove inside ignite it.
># ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
># As someone else has pointed out, why would the stove be in use on a warm day
># in Texas.
>
>Not that I agree with the original theory or anything, buuuuut:
>Since their utilities were turned off they might be using wood stoves
>to cook their meals.
But they also might have run out of fire-wood (maybe chopping up furnature?).
They also may not have been cooking, but eating MREs and other
delicacies stored for just such an occation...
Just a thought.
Brent "Yes I am well aware that their electricity was cut, thanks to the
HUNDREDS of E-mail messages and replies to my post" Irvine
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In article <1993Apr5.140122.8232@desire.wright.edu>, demon@desire.wright.edu (Not a Boomer) writes:
|>In article <C4x6HJ.L93@cup.hp.com>, de@cup.hp.com (Dan Epstein) writes:
|>...
|>> territory . Still, it might be possible to subject this theory to something
|>> like a controlled experiment, as Chomsky demonstrates by comparing how
|>> the American press treated two contemporaneous cases of mass
|>> slaughter, in Cambodia and in East Timor. The Cambodian genocide,
|>> carried out by "bad guys" (as defined by the State Department and
|>> corporate interests), met with loud and frequent denunciations. The
|>> East Timor genocide, carried out by Indonesian "good guys," went
|>> almost unreported. So Chomsky, as a good scientist, verifies his
|>> hypothesis -- all the while hoping, we may assume, not to see the
|>> experiment repeated too often.
|>
|> Is Chomsky thus equivacating the genocide in Cambodia with the invasion
|>and occupation of E. Timor?
|>
|> If so, how does he rationalize that?
He is claiming that what the Indonesians are up to in East Timor is genocide.
Certainly what is going on is serious enough that it is way above the threshold
where it should be brought to attention. Pol Pot did not kill nearly as many
people as Hitler but he is most certainly as evil.
|> If so, how does he explain (away) the difference between an intended
|>goal of genocide (Cambodia) and a brutal occupation?
He fully accepts the differences in the intentions and situations. What he
is saying is that the effect in both cases has been mass murder only we
only get to hear about the one that supports the red scare merchants and the
behaviour of our allies is conveniently ignored.
A starker comparison is in El Salvador where the allegations that the left
were repeatedly making throughout the 1980s have been proven with the
discovery of mass graves. There was evidence enough at the time that Duarte
and his gang of thugs were mass murderers but Regan and Bush ignored it
and gave them arms to repress the opposition. This must be contrasted with
the events in Nica<ragua where no evidence of Sandinista attrocities such
as mass murder of political opponents has come to light since they lost
the democratic elections that they held. Despite this the Nicaraguan regime
was held to justify the funding of a terrorist war fought mainly against
civillians by the infamous contras.
|> If so, why isn't he in Australia chanting "no blood for oil"?
Have you any reason to beleive he isn't?
Phill Hallam-Baker
| 18talk.politics.misc
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In <1psg95$ree@access.digex.net> prb@access.digex.com (Pat) writes:
[On the issue of 'burning' nuclear wastes using particle beams...]
>How is it ever going to be an Off- the Shelf Technology if someone doesn't
>do it? Maybe we should do this as part of the SSF design goals. ;-)
>Gee fred. After your bitter defense of 20 KHz power as a Basic technology
>for SSF, Id think you would support a minor research program like
>this.
I sometimes wonder if your newsfeed gives you different articles than
everyone else, Pat. Just a *few* corrections:
1) I never 'defended' 20kHz power, other than as something reasonable
to GO LOOK AT.
2) I have also never opposed a *research project* into feasibility of
the spalling reactor approach to 'cleaning' nuclear waste -- I simply
doubt it could be made to work in the Real World (tm), which ought to
become clear fairly quickly during a research program into feasibility
(sort of like what happened to 20 kHz power -- it proved to have a
down-side that was too expensive to overcome).
I figure 2 things wrong in a single sentence is a high enough fault
density for even you, Pat.
--
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
in the real world." -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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| 14sci.space
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In article <shepardC5p2y6.GC1@netcom.com>, shepard@netcom.com (Mark Shepard) writes:
>Hi. I've just finished reading S414, and have several questions about
>the Brady bills (S414 and HR1025).
Good!
>
>1. _Are_ these the current versions of the Brady bill?
> What is the status of these bills? I've heard they're "in committee".
> How close is that to being made law?
Not very. Thanks to the filibuster in the Senate, things are backing up. The
House judiciary is going to start looking at our friends from the ATF, so that
bill will be held up a little, too. NOTE: Things can change quickly.
>
>2. S414 and HR1025 seem fairly similar. Are there any important
> differences I missed?
>
>3. S414 seems to have some serious loopholes:
> A. S414 doesn't specify an "appeals" process to wrongful denial during
> the waiting period, other than a civil lawsuit(?) (S414 has an appeals
> process once the required instant background check system is established,
> but not before).
I thought there was a correction process in both bills for both parts.
> B. the police are explicitly NOT liable for mistakes in denying/approving
> using existing records (so who would I sue in "A" above to have an
> inaccurate record corrected?)
Very correct.
> C. S414 includes an exception-to-waiting-period clause for if a person
> can convince the local Chief Law-Enforcement Officer (CLEO) of an
> immediate threat to his or her life, or life of a household member.
> But S414 doesn't say exactly what is considered a "threat", nor does
> it place a limit on how long the CLEO takes to issue an exception
> statement.
Welcome to the world of "the privileged".
>True? Have I misunderstood? Any other 'holes?
How about no compulsion to allow purchase if there is no evidence against?
>
>4. With just S414, what's to stop a person with a "clean" record from
> buying guns, grinding off the serial numbers, and selling them to crooks?
> At minimum, what additional laws are needed to prevent this?
It is already illegal to do this.
>
> 'Seems at min. a "gun counting" scheme would be needed
> (e.g., "John Doe owns N guns"). So, if S414 passes, I wouldn't be surprised
> to see legislation for stricter, harder-to-forge I.D.'s plus national gun
> registration, justified by a need to make the Brady bill work.
This is the "health" card. Or so some "paranoids" claim. I say that just
because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. :-) 1/2
>
>Please comment. I'm mainly interested in specific problems with the current
>legislation--I don't mean to start a general discussion of the merits
>of any/all waiting-period bills ever proposed.
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Subject line says it all. Thanks in advance. Please email
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Go Cubs!
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In article <house.734841689@helios>, house@helios.usq.EDU.AU (ron house) writes:
|> marshall@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Kevin Marshall) writes:
|>
|> >healta@saturn.wwc.edu (TAMMY R HEALY) writes:
|>
|> >> you might think "oh yeah. then why didn't god destroy it in the bud
|> >>before it got to the point it is now--with millions through the
|> >>ages suffering along in life?"
|> >> the only answer i know is that satan made the claim that his way was
|> >>better than God's. God is allowing satan the chance to prove that his way
|> >>is better than God's. we all know what that has brought.
|>
|> >Come on! God is allowing the wishes of one individual to supercede the
|> >well-being of billions? I seriously doubt it. Having read the Bible
|> >twice, I never got the impression that God and Satan were working in some
|> >sort of cooperative arrangement.
|>
|> Read the book of Job.
|>
Oh, that was just a bet.
Brian /-|-\
| 0alt.atheism
|
In article <16BB6CDEB.RICK@ysub.ysu.edu> RICK@ysub.ysu.edu (Rick Marsico)
writes:
>Does the Proventil inhaler for asthma relief fall into the steroid
>or nonsteroid category? Looking at the product literature it's
>not clear.
Non-steroid. Proventil is a brand of albuterol, a bronchodilator.
Regards,
Jay Keller
(asthmatic Proventil-head)
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I am considering selling an Atari 1040 and purchasing an IBM compa-
tible. I need to know what kind of money or trade I can expect to get for
the Atari before I bother. I am about to start graduate school, and that
means I'm about to be poor! (There's a price list for used synthesizers on
rec.music.makers.synth, but no equivalent list for computers...)
This system is tailor-made for a MIDI musician. Details follow:
* Atari 1040 ST
TOS 1.0
1 MB RAM
720K floppy drive
* SupraDrive 20 Mb external SCSI drive, 18 months old
* 12" Atari monochrome monitor
* Generic 2400 baud external modem
* Software: All software is registered and comes with manuals.
Passport's Master Tracks Pro, Version 2.5 (sequencing software)
Dr. T's Copyist Professional (scoring software)
First Word (word processor - *not* the PD version)
Megamax's Laser C, Version 2.0 (programming language)
VIP Professional (spreadsheet package - low-tech Lotus clone)
Partner ST (desk accessory with integrated calendar, cardfile, etc.)
Migraph's Easy Draw (an early, pre-Postscript release)
NeoDesk (improved desktop for Atari ST)
Universal III (improved file selector for Atari ST)
Miscellaneous software (including Uniterm communications software)
I will consider all prices above $900. I am also willing to
trade the Atari system for a quality (386 or 486) PC, including lap-tops.
I own some PC hardware, so a complete system may not be necessary.
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"Great composers do not borrow - "Talking about music is like
they steal." - John Ladasky ~ - dancing about architecture."
(quote stolen from Stravinsky, who o o - Elvis Costello? Laurie
stole it from a statement made by > Anderson? Frank Zappa?
Pablo Picasso about painting, who \_/ -------------------------------
stole it from...) "Property is theft." - Groucho
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| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
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dcd@se.houston.geoquest.slb.com (Dan Day) writes:
> In article <1qh61m$b6l@armory.centerline.com> jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost) writes:
> >
> >If the Mustang and/or SHO platform were designed for 130mph, it would
> >come with better seatbelts, more supportive seats, a stronger
> >passenger compartment cage, better brakes, a stiffer suspension,
> >different tires, and a body design that takes advantage of aero
> >effects to keep the car on the ground.
>
> In other words, it'd be a 1993 RX7.
Yeah, and then we'd pay $30,000. Go with a 5.0 LX Mustang. Most bang for your
buck.
| 7rec.autos
|
Congratulations also are due to the Hamas activists who blew up the
World Trade Center, no? After all, with every American that they put
in the grave they are underlining the USA's bankrupt imperialist
policies. Go HAmas!
Blah blah blah blah blah
Brad, you are only asking that that violence that you love so much
come back to haunt you...............
Nissan
| 17talk.politics.mideast
|
In article <1ql0ajINN2kj@gap.caltech.edu>, keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider) writes:
|> kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan) writes:
|>
|> >>But chimps are almost human...
|> >Does this mean that Chimps have a moral will?
|>
|> Well, chimps must have some system. They live in social groups
|> as we do, so they must have some "laws" dictating undesired behavior.
Ah, the verb "to must". I was warned about that one back
in Kindergarten.
So, why "must" they have such laws?
jon.
| 0alt.atheism
|
arf@genesis.MCS.COM (Jack Schmidling) writes:
>In article <1ppsceINNdsr@aludra.usc.edu> sgoldste@aludra.usc.edu (Fogbound Child) writes:
>>
>>Jack, I happen to be Jewish and have some serious problems with the whole
>>situation in Israel. But your exaggerations and commentary certainly don't help
>>to support your viewpoint. Here, for example, you are conflating two separate
>>stories, and exaggerating both of them.
>If I have confused two different stories, it was an honest mistake but I do
>not see why it becomes an exageration of either. They both took place and
Both events took place, but not as you described them. It feels trivial to
nit-pick about details like this, and insulting to everyone involved.
But I feel that the truth is more damning than an exaggeration, and
much more likely to cause people to think when they read it.
In general, when I read an argument that uses inaccurate and inflamatory
statements (honest mistake or not), I tend to dismiss the entire argument
because of those errors.
The entire situation in the Middle East is too important to reduce to
back-and-forth propaganda -- it is precisely this reduction that further
polarizes the situation and makes peace, understanding, and reconcilliation
impossible.
>are both equally disgusting behavior for any country, let alone one that
>brags constantly about democracy.
Agreed. It would have been better if both situations could have been avoided.
[I accidently deleted the line about how it would be better if more of
YOU PEOPLE would do something about disgust and closets]
What's this YOU PEOPLE stuff anyway? How does it contribute to a
rational discussion of the issues?
>in the closet, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
>Having said, you have my heartfelt thanks and admiration for even saying
>what you have said already. I suspect, you will be getting more hate
>mail than support.
Frankly, I've received no mail on the subject, hateful or supportive.
>Thanks,
>js
___Samuel___
Mossad Special Agent ID314159
Media Spiking and Mind Control Division
Los Angeles Offices
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summons ... There must have been a moment, at the beginning,
where we could have said -- no. But somehow we missed it.
| 17talk.politics.mideast
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In <1993Apr15.143320.8618@desire.wright.edu>, demon@desire.wright.edu sez:
> A judge denied GM's new trial motion, even though GM says it has two
>new witnesses that said the occupant of the truck was dead from the
>impact, not from the fire.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> It's kind of scary when you realize that judges are going to start
>denying new trials even when new evidence that contradicts the facts that led
>to the previous ruling appear.
There's this minor thing called "interest of finality/repose". What
it means is that parties aren't dragged into court over and over again
because the losing side "discovers" some "new" evidence. I don't know
about you, Brett, but I suspect GM had the resources to find just
about as many expert and fact witnesses as it wanted before the trial
started. Letting them re-open the case now is practically an
invitation to every civil litigant on earth to keep an ace in the hole
in case the verdict goes against him.
BTW, in federal criminal cases, Rule 33 does permit a motion for a new
trial "based on . . . *newly discovered* evidence" if made within 2
years of the verdict. (Emphasis mine.) If you're trying to make a
backhanded point about criminal justice in a discussion that has
little to do with criminal trials -- as the estimable David Brock did
in his amusing WSJ piece last week -- save your breath.
> Or has the judge decided that the new witnesses are not to be
>believed?
>Shouldn't that be up to a jury?
Yup. Which is why they shoulda been brought around the first time
through.
> And what about members of the previous jury parading through the talk
>shows proclaiming their obvious bias against GM? Shouldn't that be enough for
>a judge to through out the old verdict and call for a new trial?
> Whatever happened to jurors having to be objective?
Unless there's some reason to believe that this supposed bias predated
the trial (as opposed to being a product of it), and that GM was
unfairly prevented from discovering it (by venireman concealment or
otherwise), why should GM be allowed to complain?
--
MORAL: Always Choose the Right Sort of Parents
Before You Start in to be Rough
- George Ade
Mark Eckenwiler eck@panix.com ...!cmcl2!panix!eck
| 18talk.politics.misc
|
Hi! I was wondering if anyone out there could help me.
I have an error message that goes:
What does it mean?
I am running MS windows 3.1.
Thanks in advance
--
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
|
In a previous article, dianem@boi.hp.com (Diane Mathews) says:
>Aside from the fact that i disagree w/ you, she did offer to resign and the
>president rejected the offer. She was willing to take responsibility, and
>the president has the balls enough to stand by a decision.
Or the contempt to ignore it.
| 18talk.politics.misc
|
Please help if you can with the following strange problem:
The Maxtor 340 drive in my 386 clone would from time to
time, for no obvious reason spin down completely (one can
tell by the sound) and simply refuse to be accessed. DOS
reacts with an error (Drive D: cannot be accessed or
something the like). Unfortunately, I cannot just reproduce
the error. Sometimes it occurs more often, sometimes
less. The last time it happened was when I wanted to
demonstrate some software to a colleague.
I would like to know if anybody has experienced similar
problems. I don't like to take the thing to the dealer
only to be told that there's nothing wrong with it. I
checked the other post in this group about Maxtor, and
I don't seem to be the only one who has problems. However,
no one describes the same problem, and I also have a
different configuration.
Thanx in advance for any e-mailed help.
Peter
LIST OF EQUIPMENT
Computer "Mandax" Mainboard 386-33, 2MB
Adaptec 1542 SCSI Master
Maxtor LXT340S SCSI-II Hard Drive
NEC CDR-83 CD-ROM Reader (problem remains with CD-ROM removed)
ET4000 VGA Card
CONFIG.SYS
files=30
device=C:\dos\setver.exe
device=C:\windows\himem.sys
device=C:\system\aspi4dos.sys
device=C:\system\aswcdnec.sys /d:neccd
DOS=HIGH
COUNTRY=041,,C:\dos\country.sys
device=C:\dos\display.sys CON=(EGA,,1)
AUTOEXE.BAT
C:\windows\smartdrive.sys
PATH=C:\windows;c:\dos
SET TEMP=C:\dos
MODE CON CODEPAGE PREPARE=((437) C:\DOS\EGA.CPI)
MODE CON CODEPAGE SELECT=437
KEYB SG,,C:\DOS\KEYBOARD.SYS
C:\SYSTEM\MSCDEX /D:NECCD /L:d /v
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| E-Mail: pschneid@es.unizh.ch [] Universitaet Zurich |
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| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
|
Our 20-month son has started falling sick quite often every since he
started going to day care. He was at home for the first year and he did
not fall sick even once. Now it seems like he has some sort of cold or
flu pretty much once a month. Most of the time the cold leads to an ear
infection as well, with the result that he ends up being on antibiotics
3 weeks out of 4. I know kids in day care fall sick more often, but we
are beginning to wonder how often "more often" really is, whether our
son is more susceptible or has lower immunity than average, what the
longer-term effects of constantly being sick and taking antibiotics are,
and what we can do to build up his resistance. He really enjoys his day
care and we think it's great too, but we are beginning to wonder whether
we should think about getting a nanny.
Are there any studies that can help answer some of these questions?
-- How often do kids in their first, second and third years fall sick?
How often do they get colds, flus, ear infections? Is there any data on
home care vs. day care?
-- Does being sick "build immunity" (leading to less illness later),
does it make kids "weaker" (leading to more illness later), or does it
not have any long term effect?
-- Does taking antibiotics on a regular basis have any negative long
term effects?
-- How does one tell if a child is more susceptible to illness than
normal, and what does one do about it?
-- Is there any way to build immunity and resistance?
Any data, information or advice relating to this would be much
appreciated. Thanks a lot.
Ashwin.
| 13sci.med
|
X/Motif Gurus,
How do you handling scaling of X text while performing zooming
operations on figures? Is restricting user to select scalable fonts too
restrictive and a absolute NO NO?
Any books that have discussion on this topic? Should have really taken more
of those Computer Graphics courses but, now its too late -:( )
I will summarize response.
Thanks in advance.
-Subodh ( smn@netcom.com )
| 5comp.windows.x
|
The Orioles' pitching staff again is having a fine exhibition season.
Four shutouts, low team ERA, (Well, I haven't gotten any baseball news since
March 14 but anyways) Could they contend, yes. Could they win it all? Maybe.
But for all those fans of teams with bad spring records, remember Earl
Weaver's first law of baseball (From his book on managing)
No one gives a damn in July if you lost a game in March. :)
BTW, anyone have any idea on the contenders for the O's fifth starter?
It's pretty much set that Sutcliffe, Mussina, McDonald and Rhodes are the
first four in the rotation.
Here at Johns Hopkins University where the mascot is the Blue Jay :(,
their baseball team logo was the Toronto club's logo. Now it's a
anatomically correct blue jay. God, can't they think of an original idea?
It's even in the same pose as the baltimore oriole on the O's hats.
How many people realize that the bird is really called a baltimore oriole?
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| 9rec.sport.baseball
|
verity@jack.sns.com (Steve Verity) writes:
> I am trying to build a circuit that detects the presence of video (Vs.
> a blank screen) by monitoring the R,G, and B outputs of a graphics
> card. It should be able to detect the presence of a single pixel at
> 65 MHz, which would mean detecting a 15 NS pulse. It should also be
> able to tell the difference between a blank screen (about 300 mv)
> and a dim screen (say, around 310 mv). Oh yes, it also needs to be
> cheap. ............... In
> fact the difference between completely black and completely white is
> only 650 mv. I am wondering if I am going to have to amplify the
> video signals to make this work.
Try a differential amplifier. Put back-to-back diodes between the collectors
restrict the voltage swing. Have 10 mA flow, with 500 ohm collector Rs, and
keep the stray C below 10 pF. Try 2N5179s. Run collector to your logic.
Allen Sullivan
| 12sci.electronics
|
In article <C50z77.EE6@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jelson@rcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (John Elson) writes:
>Has anyone ever heard of a food product called "Space Food Sticks?" This
>was apparently created/marketed around the time of the lunar expeditions, along
>with "Tang" and other dehydrated foods. I have spoken with several people
>who have eaten these before, and they described them as a dehydrated candy.
>Any information would be greatly appreciated.
A freeze dried Tootsie Roll (tm). The actual taste sensation was like nothing
you will ever willingly experience. The amazing thing was that we ate a second
one, and a third and ....
I doubt that they actually flew on missions, as I'm certain they did "bad
things" to the gastrointestinal tract. Compared to Space Food Sticks, Tang was
a gastronomic contribution to mankind.
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(214)462-3556 (when I'm here) |
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PS. I don't think Tang flew, either. Although it was developed under contract.
| 14sci.space
|
In article <1stk81INNf6q@SUNED.ZOO.CS.YALE.EDU> morris-jay@cs.yale.edu (Jay Morris) writes:
>
>I also understand that the administration is planning to position
>troops in Macedonia. Any reaction out there to this?
>
Macedonia said yesterday it had neither requested or needs such
forces.
This is sort of like sending the National Guard to Bel Air when
the riot is in South Central!
Obviously, Clinton is again trying to make policy for image purposes
in America rather than to try to deal with the real problem and
assume a share of responsibility for the problem. He obviously
didn't even consult with the Macedonians...he was just looking at
the map of the former Yugoslavia for the safest place to put
American troops so he could say to the Europeans...hey, look, we
have troops on the ground in the former Yugoslavia too...now let
me bomb so I can make it look like I am doing something in the
American media.
The problem is that the blue berets in Bosnia are dead meat if
Clinton starts bombing, but Clinton doesn't have the courage to
ask that the blue berets leave, because then he becomes primarily
responsible to the Bosnian policy of the UN and the allies.
Clinton wants to have his cake and eat it too...he wants to feel
free to use American military power for the sake of domestic
US politics and his domestic image, but he doesn't want to assume
the primary international leadership role in the UN and among
the allies, like Bush, for all his faults, did in the Gulf War...
because with leadership comes responsibility, and Clinton seems
to want to retain the Europeans as scapegoats.
Clinton wants to leave the Europeans in charge and responsible,
but wants to freelance on the side...and if his freelancing gets
too hot, he wants to be able to cut and run...the American public may
be easily fooled...European leaders aren't.
Gerald
| 17talk.politics.mideast
|
I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome
all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you.
Luke 10:19
| 15soc.religion.christian
|
In article <1993Apr15.003015.1@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu>, cvadrnlh@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu writes:
>Today (4/14) Cubs activated P Mike Harkey from DL, whom did they move to make
>room for Harkey?
>Also, are Delino Deshields & John Wetteland of the Expos on the DL?
>Thanks for anyone who can give me more info!
>/===
>Ken
>Cal Poly, Pomona
>
Wetteland is on the DL effective March 26 or something like that.
rick
| 9rec.sport.baseball
|
In article <9866@ceylon.gte.com> hhd0@harvey.gte.com (Horace Dediu) writes:
>In article <1pvjlnINNckf@daffy.sps.mot.com>, shantanu@risc.sps.mot.com (Shantanu Ganguly) writes:
>|>
>|> Some comments:
>|>
>|> a) Good performance and mid and high speeds can be obtained by adjusting the
>|> top gear and final drive ratios. Contrary to popular misperception, a
>|> number of Japanese cars have quite good performance from 70+ in top
>|> gear.
>
>No problem with that. The question is: do they perform consistently in all
>conditions (roads, winds and curves) at that speed and do so for hours on end,
>year after year without giving the driver white knuckles? From my experience on
>the Autobahns/Autostrade, a good touring car can be easily distinguished by its
>"poise" at >100mph. The best stay on cruise control at 155 for hours. I've
>seen the typical boy racer in a Fiat try to keep up. Sure they hit the century
>mark, but if the wind blows the wrong way they change lanes, and if on an
>overpass, they may fly right into a guardrail. The buffeting at 125 can be
>severe enough to make the hood bend. Tires at 155 can melt, and a pothole can
>kill. Many German cars are designed for this environment, even if they can't
>seem to get out of their own way from a stop light (Mercedes come to mind in
>particular.) And another design point is fuel economy at those speeds. The
>Germans gear the car for very good high speed efficiency (a typical M-B 300E turns
>1500 at 55, almost a stall :-)
Good point. I have no idea how either of my Hondas will handle at 100+ mph,
nor do they reach 155. However, using `high' to be 70-90 mph:
a) They are quite amenable to long high speed drives. I've done several
1k mile+ trips in my Civic with no problems whatsoever. The last big trip
I made was driving from New York to Texas. I remember driving 700-800
miles a day at typically 75-85 mph without any problems. I'm sure I
would have been more comfortable driving a benz, but no white knuckles.
No problems with winds and curves.
Then there was the trip back from New Orleans after Mardi Gras - where
we were doing 80+ all the way to Houston. No problems.
b) Both my cars have surprising good fuel economy at high speeds. I see
no difference between sustained 60 mph and sustained 80mph. On the trip
back from New Orleans, we got about 30 mpg in my Integra, quite ok. Mind
you, the engine revs to almost 4k at 80. The civic is markedly better
than the Integra in fuel economy. 50k miles down the road, I still
get 35 mpg at 70-75 mph driving.
>|> b) I can't understand why these high-scale European marquees are afraid
>|> to design engines that can be repeatedly revved to near redline in
>|> the low gears. I have been doing that for that last 50k miles with
>|> my lowly Civic, with no detriment to either the engine or the clutch,
>|> and getting excellent mpg to boot. I'd call this an engineering hack
>|> to cover up design deficiencies.
>
>At 50k miles you'd still be breaking-in a "high-scale European marquee" They
>typically are designed to last 300,000 miles per engine, 500,000 mi. per
>chassis. (The record is now over 1,500,000 miles on a Benz diesel, and I've
>read about *transmissions* lasting 700,000 miles.) Speaking of
Now now, you can't compare a diesel with a gasoline engine. I see enough
bmws and gasoline mercs for sale that have 100-150k miles on them and advertise
rebuilt engines. If honda was to build an accord for 30k, I'd darn well
expect the sucker to last 300k miles.
>diesels, they have very good efficiency at the cost of acceleration, and are very
>popular in all European cars (diesel is considered the "green" fuel) from the
>smallest econoboxes to the luxo-barges. Again, we see a difference in mentality.
>Diesels in the US are considered slightly worse than useless, and extremely
>"dirty" to boot so you can't give them away.
Ever got caught behind a early 80's 300SDL at a stop light? It's not
pleasant. The newer MB's are a lot better though. The diesel Volvos
and VWs are probably the smelliest offenders.
As for economy, why should we care? Gas is cheap! I personally wouldn't
buy a diesel car for any reason - what does it buy me?
Shantanu Ganguly
Somerset (Motorola)
phone : (512) 795-7146 Motorola Inc, Mail Drop OE 513
fax : (512) 795-7513 6501 William Cannon Drive W.
Austin TX 78735-8598
email : shantanu%ibmoto.com@oakhill.sps.mot.com
| 7rec.autos
|
In article <1qlbrlINN7rk@dns1.NMSU.Edu>, bgrubb@dante.nmsu.edu (GRUBB) says:
>In PC Magazine April 27, 1993:29 "Although SCSI is twice as fasst as ESDI,
>20% faster than IDE, and support up to 7 devices its acceptance ...has
>long been stalled by incompatability problems and installation headaches."
I love it when magazine writers make stupid statements like that re:
performance. Where do they get those numbers? I'll list the actual
performance ranges, which should convince anyone that such a
statement is absurd:
SCSI-I ranges from 0-5MB/s.
SCSI-II ranges from 0-40MB/s.
IDE ranges from 0-8.3MB/s.
ESDI is always 1.25MB/s (although there are some non-standard versions)
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
|
regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) writes:
>In article <1993Apr9.154530.15187@colorado.edu> wws@roberts.colorado.edu (Wendy Sullivan) writes:
>> Abortion (in many cases) is a choice, birth is a necessary function to keep
>> our population alive. To those who disagree with abortion, I am sure cost
>> is not a major factor.
>Make you the same deal I offered Doug. You and the rest of the pro-lifers
>on this net can pay all prenatal and child bearing costs for those poor
>who want to have children, and the pro-choicers on the net will pay for the
>abortions of the poor who don't want to have children. Deal?
A more realistic offer would be:
Those who object to paying for abortion can instead pay for the (greater)
cost of delivery that those who couldn't afford an abortion (and wanted
one) would be forced to go through, while those of us who do not object to
public funding of abortions for those who can not afford medical care on
their own can pay for the (smaller) cost of an abortion for those who
decide that is what is best for them, but are unable to afford it on their
own. Funny how those who object to paying *their* money to pay for *other's*
abortions end up paying *more* money than if they hadn't objected. People
need to realize that where *your* individual tax money goes is a meaningless
concept. It is probably unlikely that the fraction of your taxes that would
actually *on average* go towards such abortions would cover the cost of even
*one* entire abortion. (Consider how many taxpayers there are, how many
abortions are performed, and how many would likely be paid for by public
funds, and how much you pay in taxes and how much a typical abortion would
cost. I think the factors on the order of 1/1000 involved will swamp the
rest.)
(It's more realistic because we don't really object to paying for delivery,
etc for those women who *chose* that, but can't afford it.)
>Adrienne Regard
-Rob
| 18talk.politics.misc
|
Yes, Yes, I can see it now >>>> all those Sabre fans FINALLY taking
their Sabre sweaters out of the moth balls and proudly wearing them.
After 9 years of playoff frustration and being up 3 games to nil
I guess it is a pretty good bet. BUT there has not been a team
that has come back from an 0-3 deficit since 1975 - could this be
the year. (Don't throw out the moth balls yet)
ROY
| 10rec.sport.hockey
|
In article <msf.734832494@skaro> msf@skaro.as.arizona.edu (Michael Fulbright) writes:
>I am trying to build a synchronous demodulator and I've hit a snag.
>In my application I want to be able to change the gain of an
>op amp amplifier from 1 to -1, controlable via a digital input.
>The most obvious way I've come up with is to use analog switches
>to adjust the gain of the op amp. The only analog switch I have
>experience with it the 4066. Unfortunately I want to switch an
>AC signal which goes from about -5V to 5V, and the 4066 is only
>for positive signals.
>[...]
> I have a carrier signal which varies between 0V and +5V. I want
>to demodulate an input signal by feeding the input signal thru a
>amp with a gain of 1 when the carrier is at +5V, and thru a amp
>with a gain of -1 when the carrier is 0V. The output is then
>low pass filtered. I believe this is called lock in detection as well
>as synchronous demodulation.
Look at the 4053. This is a triple 2-to-1 transmission-gate analog
multiplexer, with positive and negative power supplies (can be run
from a single-ended supply as well). With dual supplies, the logic
inputs still range from ground (0 Volts) to VDD.
This is a neat (well, I think so) design for a switchable-polarity
amplifier:
+-----/\/\/\-------+
| |
| /--------\ |
INPUT -+-/\/\/\--+----| - | |
| | opamp |----+------- OUTPUT
+-/\/\/\--+----| + |
| \--------/
|
CONTROL ---------X (analog switch)
|
|
---
GND
All resistors are equal-value. When the analog switch is closed,
the amp is inverting-gain-of-one. With the switch open, it is
non-inverting-gain-of-one. You can clean up the circuit to trim
out input offset current if this hurts the balance (this would show
up as carrier feed-through).
For high frequencies, the slew-rate of the opamp might cause problems,
especially if it isn't symmetrical (and it usually isn't).
--
-------- Paul Elliott - DSC Optilink - Petaluma, CA USA ----------
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"I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not so sure."
| 12sci.electronics
|
In article <1993May12.195300.14016@serval.net.wsu.edu> d3e758@bucky.pnl.gov (JE Pelkey) writes:
>
>I am looking for online help Motif widgets (public domain or otherwise) to
>run on a Sun Sparc.
>
>I'd be especially interested in help widgets that can integrate hypertext
>help, graphics, etc.
>
>Anybody know of any widgets like this?
>
Text & Graphics:
Bristol Technologies has help clone of MSWindows help
Frame (makers of FrameMaker) has FrameView
Text only:
Graphical Software Technology has Xtra Widgets (includes help)
There are probably others (check out ICS widget data book)
I actually wrote one for the last company I worked for-- however it is
locked in their internal reuse library. :-(
It was a good one too! (IMHO and totally unbiased view of things) ;-)
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> > > Also, peri[jove]s of Gehrels3 were:
> > >
> > > April 1973 83 jupiter radii
> > > August 1970 ~3 jupiter radii
> > Where 1 Jupiter radius = 71,000 km = 44,000 mi = 0.0005 AU. ...
> Sorry, _perijoves_...I'm not used to talking this language.
Thanks again. One final question. The name Gehrels wasn't known to
me before this thread came up, but the May issue of Scientific American
has an article about the "Inconstant Cosmos", with a photo of Neil
Gehrels, project scientist for NASA's Compton Gamma Ray Observatory.
Same person?
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In article <C4tM1H.ECF@magpie.linknet.com>, manes@magpie.linknet.com (Steve Manes) writes:
>
>For chrissakes, take out your calculator and work out the numbers.
>Here... I've preformatted them for you to make it easier:
>
> handgun homicides/population
> ----------------------------
> Switzerland : 24 / 6,350,000
> UK : 8 / 55,670,000
>
>.... and then tell me again how Switzerland is safer with a more
>liberal handgun law than the UK is without...by RATE or TOTAL NUMBER.
>Your choice.
Please, PAY ATTENTION.
I, and others, were referring to TOTAL HOMICIDE DEATHS, NOT JUST
HANDGUN HOMICIDES. In terms of how likely are you to be killed,
(regardless of how it's done, 'cause DEAD is DEAD), the UK has a
higher homicide rate. Period. You are more likely to be killed in the
UK than in Switzerland. If you were to be murdered with a handgun,
then yes, Switzerland has a higher rate. But, to belabor the point,
you are MORE LIKELY to be murdered in the UK. In that sense, the
weapon is irrelevant. The UK is more violent, period.
Al
[standard disclaimer]
>
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Ok I want to get a color Mac I don't care if it is an LC or a Mac II or
what but I want to go to a color machine. I'd prefer to trade my
present Mac SE system plus some cash or other equipment for the color
system as right now I'm not full of the $$$ to buy a color system
outright.
Here's what my Mac SE system has...
Mac SE 4/20 with internal 800K drive
20 Meg external
External 800K drive
ImageWriter II with 4 color ribbon
Stuff that can go with it......
I'm willing to include both of the 9600 modems and the 2400 baud modem
if the deal is right. Keep in mind that both the 9600 modems are less
than a month old and the MultiTech modem sells for about $440 or so.
MultiTech Multimodem II (9600 data/fax)
U.S. Robotics Sportster (9600 data)
Microcom QX/12K (normally will connect at only 2400 as highest
but it will do faster if connected to another Microcom)
The USR and the MultiTech are both brand-new
If interested send me e-mail at dleonard@wixer.bga.com
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I use the new keyboard with a IIfx, and I like it. I am not a touch typist
so some of the advantage is loss on me - but there is difference and less
stress on my wrists.
Dan
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Picture if you will, the Habs going into the last couple minutes of the
game, leading 2-0. The Nords get a power play, pull Hextall, and get
a goal. Bout a minute later, they get another one. Then they win in
overtime......
A bad dream?.......
How's that Red Hot Chili Peppers song go...
"Give it away,give it away, give it away now...."
Oh well. Suppose I can always watch the Leafs win tomorrow night....
(smilies.....)
Am I the only female hockey fan in the world?
Susan Carroll-Clark
sclark@epas.utoronto.ca
| 10rec.sport.hockey
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mlee@post.RoyalRoads.ca (Malcolm.Lee) writes:
>dpw@sei.cmu.edu (David Wood) writes:
>|>
>|> mlee@ra.royalroads.ca (Malcolm Lee) writes:
>|> >These laws written for the Israelites, God's chosen people whom God had
>|> >expressly set apart from the rest of the world. The Israelites were a
>|> >direct witness to God's existence. To disobey God after KNOWing that God is
>|> >real would be an outright denial of God and therefore immediately punishable.
>|> >Remember, these laws were written for a different time and applied only to
>|> >God's chosen people. But Jesus has changed all of that. We are living in the
>|> >age of grace. Sin is no longer immediately punishable by death. There is
>|> >repentance and there is salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. And not just
>|> >for a few chosen people. Salvation is available to everyone, Jew and Gentile
>|> >alike.
>|>
>|> Sorry if this is late for the thread, but...
>|>
>|> I thought God was supposed to be constant and never-changing. How do
>|> you reconcile this common Christian view with the paragraph above?
>|>
>God never changes.
Sorry, but yes he does, by your own description.
>He still loves us. Sending Jesus was one of His attempts to
>reconcile with mankind.
Humorous, this notion of an all-knowing, all-powerful god who must
"attempt" to "reconcile" with his lowly creations. I realize that it
is not possible to penetrate such logic, but is there any chance that
you might consider that an omnipotent god need not "attempt" anything,
and further that an attempt to "reconcile" implies a lack of
omniscience?
What you are doing here is projecting human weaknesses onto your god.
>|>
>|> Also, while we're at it:
>|>
>|> 1. How do you reconcile "A KIND and LOVING God!!" with the
>|> Judeo-Christian view that sin was at one time "immediately punishable
>|> by death"? Was killing people for sinning God's way of showing
>|> KINDness and LOVE?
>|>
>Sinning in the face of God was punishable by immediate death. There are
>several OT passages to back this up. God is God.
But all humans are sinners, thus all pre-Jesus humans should have been
punished with death. We aren't punished with sin now, of course,
because God has changed. He required a brutal, sadistic sacrifice of
his own blood in order to allow us to sin without immediate death.
>He cannot tolerate the prescence of sin in His midst.
Yet he does so now. He has changed. The sadistic murder of his own
son has made him more tolerant of our sins.
Besides, his "midst" is everywhere, so your statement is meaningless.
He tolerates sin in Hell, which surely is in his midst as well. Also,
given that he is all-knowing, he must have eternal knowledge of who
will commit which sins, as well as when and where, so what does
tolerance have to do with anything. All of this is absolute nonsense,
unless your god is not indeed all-knowing and all-powerful, or unless
he doesn't take the personal interest in everyday affairs that you
claim.
>And the Israelites knew this! And
>still, some of them chose to disobey and were destroyed. Were these
>people KIND and LOVing themselves?
Not relevant. The claim of kindness and lovingness was made by you in
reference to your god. The nature of his creations/victims is not at
issue.
>God gave them every break He could but in the end, He really had no
>choice in the matter.
I see: an all-knowing god who did not know what the ultimate outcome
would be, and an all-powerful god who had no choice in the matter.
Mindmush.
>Seeing as how we were failing to achieve salvation on our own, He sent
>His Son to die for us - to be the ultimate sin offering.
Did I miss something? Did you give some indication at to why a KIND
and LOVING god should require sadistic human sacrifice to allow his
own botched creations to "achieve salvation"?
>|>
>|> 2. Is the fact the He no longer does this an admission on His part of
>|> having made a mistake?
>|>
>He sent His Son as a consolation to us, out of love.
I note that your answer physically follows my question, but I fail to
discern a connection between the two.
By the way, for what am I being consoled?
>|> 3. Now that we are "living in the age of grace", does this mean that
>|> for our sins, God now damns us to eternal hell after we die, rather
>|> than killing us immediately? If so, is this eternal damnation an
>|> example of "A KIND and LOVING God!!"?
>|>
>Hey, let's be fair for a moment here. KIND and LOVING does not mean
>a free ride.
Why not? By the way, I note for the record that you didn't answer the
questions.
>There is an amount of give and take as in any relationship.
>Parents are supposed to be kind and loving but does that mean that
>children can do whatever they want? NOT! Part of being a parent means
>administering punishment when the child is at fault.
Death and/or eternal damnation is your idea of correctional
punishment? I hope you aren't a parent.
>Part of being a parent means giving instruction. God tests us through
>the trial of life such that we may grow stronger. He teaches what is
>right and what is wrong.
This is quite an elaborate fantasy that you've constructed, but sadly
it lacks a basis in reality. It also does not address the questions
that I raised.
>The consequences of our actions are made clear to us, be it Heaven or
>be it Hell. If God did not follow through with what He has warned us
>about, He would not be a very good parent.
The god that you describe is not a good parent, but a tyrant.
>In parenting, if a parent issues a warning but does not follow through
>with it, the children will not take that parent's words very seriously.
>God does the same by telling us who have ears to hear what to do and
>what not to do. By life's trials, we see the folly of doing our own
>will rather than His. He warns us about the consequences of rejecting
>Him when it comes time for Judgement.
Sorry, was that the god of the Bible whose rules I am to follow, or
the god of the Koran? The Vedas? The Book of Koresh? Oh, yes, it's
all so clear.
>Do we follow Him?
>
>I will.
Bully for you.
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Hi all you Ryno fans (and those interested...)
Todays Chicago Tribune had this written in it today in regards to
Ryne Sandberg...
"Ryne Sandberg is ahead of schedule in his recovery from a broken
left hand and could be back in the lineup by May 1, manager Jim
Lefebvre said Friday.
Doctors cleared Sandberg to swing a padded bat at a ball in his
gloved hand.
'' I'm not surprised his rehabilitation has been moved up,'' said
Lefebvre. '' He's a fast healer, and he doesn't like being on the
disabled list. He's been running since he was hurt [March 5] and
is in the best shape of his life. May 1 is his target date for
getting back in the lineup."
Hold on to your hats Cub fans...more later as information
presents itself.
Jeffery
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I have an 8514/A card, and I am using windows in 1024x768 mode
(normal 8514/A font, not small). In the 386 enhanced mode
the DOS window font is too small for my 14" monitor. Is there a
way to spacify the font size for the DOS window? You'll have to
excuse me if there is a trivial answer, since I am fairly new to
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In article <onrC5xzu4.IIF@netcom.com> onr@netcom.com (D. Owen Rowley) writes:
>[...]
>of course the last MOW was the same thing but [the media] ignored us.
>I guess that was just labor pains.
>perhaps they will ignore us again, in which case we will come in
>even largeer numbers next time.
Local media hasn't said much, if anything, about the MOW. Also, when
I called a straight friend in Arlington to tell him I would be on his
doorstep this weekend, he didn't know anything at all about the march.
This is a gay-sympathetic person who notices things like this. I
thought it was strange that he was unaware of what was happening. It
made me wonder just how much coverage is getting to "mainstream" America.
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| 18talk.politics.misc
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In article <Apr.22.00.57.03.1993.2118@geneva.rutgers.edu>, jprzybyl@skidmore.edu (jennifer przybylinski) writes:
> Hey...
>
> I may be wrong, but wasn't Jeff Fenholt part of Black Sabbath? He's a
> MAJOR brother in Christ now. He totally changed his life around, and
> he and his wife go on tours singing, witnessing, and spreading the
> gospel for Christ. I may be wrong about Black Sabbath, but I know he
> was in a similar band if it wasn't that particular group...
>
Jeff Fenholt claims to have once been a roadie for Black Sabbath.
He was never ever a musician in the band. He was in St. Louis several
months back. The poster I saw at the Christian bookstore I frequent
really turned me off. It was addressed to all "Homosexuals, prostitutes,
drug addicts, alcoholics, and headbangers..." or something like that.
Well, if I showed up with my long hair and black leather jacket I
would have felt a little pre-judged. As a Orthodox Christian, and
a "headbanger" I was slightly insulted at being lumped together with
drug addicts and alcoholics. Oh yes, I suppose since I drink a good
German beer now and then that makes me an alcoholic. NOT!
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Player Team GP G A Pts +/- PIM
M.Lemieux PIT 3 4 2 6 2 0
Francis PIT 3 1 5 6 5 4
Oates BOS 3 0 6 6 1 2
Yzerman DET 2 3 2 5 3 0
Coffey DET 2 0 5 5 1 0
D.Hunter WAS 3 5 0 5 -4 10
Mogilny BUF 3 4 1 5 3 4
Thomas NYI 3 2 3 5 6 0
Lapointe QUE 3 1 4 5 2 2
Johansson WAS 3 0 5 5 -1 4
Carson LA 2 4 0 4 0 2
Brown STL 2 1 3 4 1 2
Fleury CAL 2 1 3 4 0 19
G.Courtnall VAN 2 1 3 4 3 2
Flatley NYI 2 0 4 4 3 2
MacInnis CAL 2 0 4 4 -1 4
Ferraro NYI 3 3 1 4 2 2
McEachern PIT 3 3 1 4 4 8
Neely BOS 3 3 1 4 1 4
Turgeon NYI 3 3 1 4 5 0
Bellows MON 3 2 2 4 0 0
Jagr PIT 3 2 2 4 3 0
Khmylev BUF 3 2 2 4 3 0
Khristich WAS 3 2 2 4 0 2
Hawerchuk BUF 3 1 3 4 0 2
Hogue NYI 3 1 3 4 3 2
Juneau BOS 3 1 3 4 0 6
K.Stevens PIT 3 1 3 4 1 6
L.Murphy PIT 3 1 3 4 2 0
LaFontaine BUF 3 1 3 4 2 0
Ramsey PIT 3 0 4 4 3 4
Smehlik BUF 3 0 4 4 4 2
Noonan CHI 2 3 0 3 0 0
Gilmour TOR 2 2 1 3 -1 12
Hull STL 2 2 1 3 0 0
Otto CAL 2 2 1 3 2 2
Reichel CAL 2 2 1 3 0 0
Bure VAN 2 1 2 3 2 0
Drake DET 2 1 2 3 2 0
Linden VAN 2 1 2 3 4 2
Nieuwendyk CAL 2 1 2 3 -1 2
Roberts CAL 2 0 3 3 -2 4
Young QUE 3 3 0 3 3 0
B.Sweeney BUF 3 2 1 3 2 4
S.Stevens NJ 3 2 1 3 -2 4
Tocchet PIT 3 2 1 3 0 2
Carpenter WAS 3 1 2 3 0 6
J.Mullen PIT 3 1 2 3 2 2
Ronning VAN 2 2 0 2 4 0
Suter CAL 2 2 0 2 0 4
Yawney CAL 2 2 0 2 3 4
Adams VAN 2 1 1 2 2 0
Chiasson DET 2 1 1 2 -1 4
Craven VAN 2 1 1 2 2 2
Cullen TOR 2 1 1 2 -1 0
Dahlquist CAL 2 1 1 2 2 4
King WIN 2 1 1 2 2 2
Racine DET 2 1 1 2 6 14
Rychel LA 2 1 1 2 1 19
Shanahan STL 2 1 1 2 0 4
Sheppard DET 2 1 1 2 2 0
Sydor LA 2 1 1 2 0 4
Barnes WIN 2 0 2 2 1 2
Emerson STL 2 0 2 2 0 0
Gill TOR 2 0 2 2 -2 0
Granato LA 2 0 2 2 1 4
Gretzky LA 2 0 2 2 -3 0
Housley WIN 2 0 2 2 -2 0
Janney STL 2 0 2 2 0 0
King NYI 2 0 2 2 4 6
Kozlov DET 2 0 2 2 1 2
Sandstrom LA 2 0 2 2 -4 4
Shuchuk LA 2 0 2 2 -1 2
Vaske NYI 2 0 2 2 1 0
Damphousse MON 3 1 1 2 0 0
Elynuik WAS 3 1 1 2 -1 0
Guerin NJ 3 1 1 2 0 4
Hannan BUF 3 1 1 2 2 8
Holik NJ 3 1 1 2 1 4
Muller MON 3 1 1 2 0 0
Sakic QUE 3 1 1 2 0 0
Semak NJ 3 1 1 2 -2 0
Sundin QUE 3 1 1 2 1 2
Taglianetti PIT 3 1 1 2 3 6
Tipett PIT 3 1 1 2 -1 6
Barasso PIT 3 0 2 2 0 2
Bondra WAS 3 0 2 2 1 0
Carney BUF 3 0 2 2 3 4
Cavallini WAS 3 0 2 2 0 2
Desjardins MON 3 0 2 2 0 0
Duchesne QUE 3 0 2 2 1 2
Niedermayer NJ 3 0 2 2 -1 2
Ricci QUE 3 0 2 2 3 2
Ridley WAS 3 0 2 2 -1 0
U.Samuelsson PIT 3 0 2 2 4 6
Blake LA 1 0 1 1 2 0
Borschevsky TOR 1 0 1 1 0 0
Zelepukin NJ 1 0 1 1 -2 0
B.Mullen NYI 2 1 0 1 -2 0
Burr DET 2 1 0 1 -1 2
Domi WIN 2 1 0 1 2 4
Fedorov DET 2 1 0 1 2 2
Felsner STL 2 1 0 1 1 0
Howe DET 2 1 0 1 4 2
Huddy LA 2 1 0 1 1 0
Kurri LA 2 1 0 1 -2 2
Lefebvre TOR 2 1 0 1 0 12
Lidstrom DET 2 1 0 1 -1 0
Lowry STL 2 1 0 1 1 2
McSorley LA 2 1 0 1 -3 12
Millen LA 2 1 0 1 2 4
Mironov TOR 2 1 0 1 -1 2
Numminen WIN 2 1 0 1 -2 0
Paslawski CAL 2 1 0 1 -1 0
Steen WIN 2 1 0 1 -4 0
Ysebaert DET 2 1 0 1 0 0
Anderson TOR 2 0 1 1 -2 2
Berube CAL 2 0 1 1 1 15
Chelios CHI 2 0 1 1 -1 2
Ciccarelli DET 2 0 1 1 1 14
Clark TOR 2 0 1 1 0 6
Dahl CAL 2 0 1 1 2 6
Dipietro MON 2 0 1 1 0 0
Donnelly LA 2 0 1 1 1 2
Ellett TOR 2 0 1 1 -3 0
Gallant DET 2 0 1 1 1 4
K.Brown CHI 2 0 1 1 1 0
Kennedy DET 2 0 1 1 1 0
Larmer CHI 2 0 1 1 0 0
Matteau CHI 2 0 1 1 -1 2
McLean VAN 2 0 1 1 0 0
McRae STL 2 0 1 1 1 2
Murzyn VAN 2 0 1 1 2 0
Musil CAL 2 0 1 1 0 5
Pearson TOR 2 0 1 1 -1 21
Primeau DET 2 0 1 1 1 20
Probert DET 2 0 1 1 0 6
Ranheim CAL 2 0 1 1 2 0
Robitaille LA 2 0 1 1 -4 2
Roenick CHI 2 0 1 1 -1 0
Selanne WIN 2 0 1 1 -2 0
Shannon WIN 2 0 1 1 4 0
Skrudland CAL 2 0 1 1 2 10
Sutter CHI 2 0 1 1 -1 0
Taylor LA 2 0 1 1 1 0
Zhitnik LA 2 0 1 1 -2 2
Barr NJ 3 1 0 1 0 6
Bourque BOS 3 1 0 1 -2 2
Burridge WAS 3 1 0 1 -2 0
Dionne MON 3 1 0 1 0 0
Heinze BOS 3 1 0 1 0 0
Leschyshyn QUE 3 1 0 1 1 4
Presley BUF 3 1 0 1 0 0
Rucinsky QUE 3 1 0 1 1 2
Smolinski BOS 3 1 0 1 -1 2
Wood BUF 3 1 0 1 -1 4
Brunet MON 3 0 1 1 0 0
Daniels PIT 3 0 1 1 1 0
Donato BOS 3 0 1 1 -5 0
Driver NJ 3 0 1 1 -3 4
Gusarov QUE 3 0 1 1 2 0
Houlder BUF 3 0 1 1 0 0
K.Samuelsson PIT 3 0 1 1 2 0
Kamensky QUE 3 0 1 1 1 4
Krygier WAS 3 0 1 1 0 4
Loney PIT 3 0 1 1 2 0
May WAS 3 0 1 1 1 2
Miller WAS 3 0 1 1 -3 0
Odelein MON 3 0 1 1 0 0
Pivonka WAS 3 0 1 1 -1 0
Shaw BOS 3 0 1 1 -2 4
Straka PIT 3 0 1 1 0 0
Belanger MON 1 0 0 0 0 0
Chorske NJ 1 0 0 0 0 0
Druce WIN 1 0 0 0 0 0
Eagles WIN 1 0 0 0 0 0
Errey BUF 1 0 0 0 0 4
Ewen MON 1 0 0 0 0 0
Foligno TOR 1 0 0 0 0 16
Goulet CHI 1 0 0 0 0 0
Grimson CHI 1 0 0 0 0 2
Hughes BOS 1 0 0 0 0 2
Kovalenko QUE 1 0 0 0 0 2
Leeman MON 1 0 0 0 0 0
McLlwain TOR 1 0 0 0 -2 0
Osbourne TOR 1 0 0 0 -1 2
Richer NJ 1 0 0 0 -4 0
Roberge MON 1 0 0 0 0 0
Schneider MON 1 0 0 0 0 0
Watters LA 1 0 0 0 1 4
Weimer BOS 1 0 0 0 -1 4
Andreychuk TOR 2 0 0 0 -2 2
Ashton CAL 2 0 0 0 -1 2
Babych VAN 2 0 0 0 2 2
Baron STL 2 0 0 0 0 6
Bassen STL 2 0 0 0 0 4
Baumgartner TOR 2 0 0 0 0 0
Bautin WIN 2 0 0 0 -2 2
Belfour CHI 2 0 0 0 0 0
Berg TOR 2 0 0 0 -1 4
Billington NJ 2 0 0 0 0 0
Blue BOS 2 0 0 0 0 0
Borsato WIN 2 0 0 0 -2 0
Bozon STL 2 0 0 0 0 0
Butcher STL 2 0 0 0 2 0
Cheveldae DET 2 0 0 0 0 2
Conacher LA 2 0 0 0 2 0
Corkum BUF 2 0 0 0 0 0
Diduck VAN 2 0 0 0 2 2
Dirk VAN 2 0 0 0 0 2
Erickson WIN 2 0 0 0 -1 0
Essensa WIN 2 0 0 0 0 2
Gilbert CHI 2 0 0 0 0 0
Graham CHI 2 0 0 0 0 0
Hardy LA 2 0 0 0 -1 10
Hedican STL 2 0 0 0 0 0
Hrudey LA 2 0 0 0 0 0
J.Lemieux CHI 2 0 0 0 0 0
Johansson CAL 2 0 0 0 -1 0
Joseph STL 2 0 0 0 0 0
Kasatonov NJ 2 0 0 0 -2 0
Kennedy WIN 2 0 0 0 0 0
Konstantinov DET 2 0 0 0 1 4
Krushelnyski TOR 2 0 0 0 -2 0
Lidster VAN 2 0 0 0 0 0
Lumme VAN 2 0 0 0 2 4
Macoun TOR 2 0 0 0 -1 6
Marchment CHI 2 0 0 0 1 6
Miller STL 2 0 0 0 0 0
Momesso VAN 2 0 0 0 -1 2
Moog BOS 2 0 0 0 0 0
Muni CHI 2 0 0 0 -1 0
Murphy CHI 2 0 0 0 -1 4
Murray CHI 2 0 0 0 0 0
Nedved VAN 2 0 0 0 -2 2
Olausson WIN 2 0 0 0 -1 2
Pearson QUE 2 0 0 0 0 0
Potvin TOR 2 0 0 0 0 6
Quintal STL 2 0 0 0 -1 0
Ramage MON 2 0 0 0 0 0
Ri.Sutter STL 2 0 0 0 0 0
Rouse TOR 2 0 0 0 -2 0
Russell CHI 2 0 0 0 0 0
Ruuttu CHI 2 0 0 0 1 0
S.Richer BOS 2 0 0 0 -1 0
S.Smith CHI 2 0 0 0 -2 4
Sandlak VAN 2 0 0 0 -2 0
Semenov VAN 2 0 0 0 0 0
Stern CAL 2 0 0 0 -1 26
T.Hunter VAN 2 0 0 0 0 2
T.Sweeney BOS 2 0 0 0 0 0
Terreri NJ 2 0 0 0 0 0
Tkachuk WIN 2 0 0 0 -3 10
Ulanov WIN 2 0 0 0 -1 4
Valk VAN 2 0 0 0 0 2
Vernon CAL 2 0 0 0 0 2
Wilson STL 2 0 0 0 0 4
Zezel TOR 2 0 0 0 -2 2
Zhamnov WIN 2 0 0 0 -1 0
Zombo STL 2 0 0 0 -1 4
Albelin NJ 3 0 0 0 -1 0
Anderson WAS 3 0 0 0 -1 0
Audette BUF 3 0 0 0 -1 4
Bodger BUF 3 0 0 0 3 0
Brisebois MON 3 0 0 0 0 0
C.Lemieux NJ 3 0 0 0 -4 17
Carbonneau MON 3 0 0 0 0 0
Cavallini QUE 3 0 0 0 0 0
Cote WAS 3 0 0 0 -3 0
D.Sweeney BOS 3 0 0 0 -2 4
Daigneault MON 3 0 0 0 0 0
Dalgarno NYI 3 0 0 0 -3 0
Daneyko NJ 3 0 0 0 -1 2
Douris BOS 3 0 0 0 -3 0
Fetisov NJ 3 0 0 0 -5 0
Finn QUE 3 0 0 0 -1 0
Fitzgerald NYI 3 0 0 0 0 0
Foote QUE 3 0 0 0 1 0
Fuhr BUF 3 0 0 0 0 2
G.Roberts BOS 3 0 0 0 -1 4
Haller MON 3 0 0 0 0 0
Hatcher WAS 3 0 0 0 -1 2
Healy NYI 3 0 0 0 0 0
Hextall QUE 3 0 0 0 0 0
Hough QUE 3 0 0 0 0 0
Iafrate WAS 3 0 0 0 -2 0
Jennings PIT 3 0 0 0 0 4
Jones WAS 3 0 0 0 -2 5
Kasparaitis NYI 3 0 0 0 0 4
Keane MON 3 0 0 0 0 0
Kimble BOS 3 0 0 0 0 0
Krupp NYI 3 0 0 0 2 2
Kvartalnov BOS 3 0 0 0 0 2
LeClair MON 3 0 0 0 0 0
Leach BOS 3 0 0 0 0 0
Lebeau MON 3 0 0 0 0 0
Ledyard BUF 3 0 0 0 -3 4
Loiselle NYI 3 0 0 0 -1 2
MacLean NJ 3 0 0 0 -4 4
Malakov NYI 3 0 0 0 1 2
May BUF 3 0 0 0 0 4
McKay NJ 3 0 0 0 0 16
Nicholls NJ 3 0 0 0 -4 4
Nolan QUE 3 0 0 0 1 2
Norton NYI 3 0 0 0 3 0
Patterson BUF 3 0 0 0 -1 2
Pilon NYI 3 0 0 0 1 22
Poulin BOS 3 0 0 0 -4 0
Roy MON 3 0 0 0 0 0
Savard MON 3 0 0 0 0 0
Simon QUE 3 0 0 0 -1 2
Stapleton PIT 3 0 0 0 1 0
Stastny NJ 3 0 0 0 -1 2
Sutton BUF 3 0 0 0 2 0
T.Green NYI 3 0 0 0 -3 0
Tabaracci WAS 3 0 0 0 0 4
Vukota NYI 3 0 0 0 -1 2
Wesley BOS 3 0 0 0 1 0
Wolanin QUE 3 0 0 0 1 4
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In article <strnlghtC5t3nH.Is1@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
In article <1993Apr20.032623.3046@eff.org> kadie@eff.org (Carl M. Kadie) writes:
>So, don't just think of replacements for clipper, also think of front
>ends.
This only makes sense if the government prohibits alternative non-escrowed
encryption schemes. Otherwise, why not just use the front end without
clipper?
David
David, they (== the gov't) have already said that they hope to DO THIS
in the long run...
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In <0096B130.473B17C0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 2a42dubinski@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
> ahh, yes, this is a fun topic. No, once the name is incribed on the
>disk, that is it, it is encoded. Not even a HEX editor will find it. You can
But a disk compare utility (old versus new) will. And Windows 3.1 is
also flexible enough at install time that you can copy all the files
onto your hard disk, which greatly speeds things up and makes them
less annoying, if you can spare the 7 or so compressed megs.
>write over the "Licensed to:", but you can't change the name underneth it. I
>think if you wish to change this you would have to be a pirate, and we're not
>going to promote that here.
No, we're not. But we're also not going to promote pandering to
corporate paranoia when the real issue is convenience. I don't *like*
dealing with floppies. Personally, I have no use for changing the
registration info, but I see it as a valid need, and one that ought to
be solved using a quick little utility rather than a half-hour
reinstall that's just about guaranteed to mess up your settings in one
way or another.
So, while I'm not going to put much time into it myself, here's the
procedure for getting on your way to finding the encoded information:
1. Copy all your Windows disks into the directory from which you want
to install it. I've been using c:\WINSTALL myself.
2. From there, copy that directory to something like c:\WINORIG.
3. Install from c:\winstall.
4. comp the two directories to determine changes.
i.e., comp *.* \winorig\*.* >\report.txt
5. Look in the report file for the file(s) that change. Assuming
they didn't cover themselves covering their own tracks, at least one
file should have a difference noted at a particular offset. Locate
said offset in the original directory and see what's there using a hex
editor, and do the same for the modified one.
6. You're on your own as far as breaking the code goes; I don't
really do cryptography. It's probably just an xor key or something; I
think MS is more concerned with Joe Schmoe at the office personalizing
his copy than with "real pirates" who will probably just disassemble
the damned thing anyway. This technique should work with just about
any obnoxious corporate product that tries to write to the original
floppies when you install; in some extreme cases you may not be able
to back the floppies up to hard disk, and will be stuck doing a
compare on floppies (Lotus stuff is probably like that).
As I noted before, if you can afford the space on the hard disk, and
don't do much in the way of customization, reinstalling from one
directory to another may be less arduous. Doing some of the stuff
I've mentioned here may well void your license with Microsoft, as if
they'd ever find out. If you aren't careful with the disk editor, you
could also mung something important... duh. I guess that's a
disclaimer.
Have at it....
Rob
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1993 World Championships in Germany:
====================================
Group A standings (Munich) Group B standings (Dortmund)
-------------------------- ----------------------------
GP W T L GF-GA +/- P GP W T L GF-GA +/- P
Canada 3 3 0 0 17- 1 +16 6 Czech republic 3 2 1 0 8- 1 +7 5
Russia 3 2 1 0 12- 4 +8 5 Finland 3 2 1 0 5- 1 +4 5
Sweden 3 2 0 1 8- 6 +2 4 USA 3 1 2 0 8- 3 +5 4
Italy 3 1 1 1 5- 8 -3 3 Germany 3 2 0 1 11- 8 +3 4
---------------------------------- -------------------------------------
Switzerland 3 0 0 3 0- 9 -9 0 France 3 0 0 3 4-13 -9 0
Austria 3 0 0 3 2-16 -14 0 Norway 3 0 0 3 0-10 -10 0
April 18: Italy - Russia 2-2 Norway - Germany 0-6
Sweden - Austria 1-0 USA - Czech republic 1-1
April 19: Canada - Switzerland 2-0
Russia - Austria 4-2 Finland - France 2-0
April 20: Sweden - Canada 1-4 Czech republic - Germany 5-0
Switzerland - Italy 0-1 Finland - USA 1-1
April 21: Germany - France 5-3
Italy - Sweden 2-6 Czech republic - Norway 2-0
April 22: Switzerland - Russia 0-6 USA - France 6-1
Austria - Canada 0-11 Norway - Finland 0-2
April 23: Switzerland - Austria Germany - Finland 20:00
April 24: Russia - Sweden Czech republic - France 15:30
Canada - Italy USA - Norway 20:00
April 25: Sweden - Switzerland Finland- Czech republic 15:30
Russia - Canada Germany - USA 20:00
April 26: Austria - Italy France - Norway 20:00
PLAYOFFS:
=========
April 27: Quarterfinals
A #2 - B #3 15:30
A #3 - B #2 20:00
April 28: Quarterfinals
A #1 - B #4 15:30
A #4 - B #1 20:00
April 29: Relegation
A #5 - B #6 15:30
A #6 - B #5 20:00
April 30: Semifinals
A #1/B #4 - A #3/B #2 15:30
A #4/B #1 - A #2/B #3 20:00
May 1: Relegation 14:30
Bronze medal game 19:00
May 2: FINAL 15:00
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Hello, I'm doing a paper on censorship in music and I would appreciate it if you took the time to participate in this survey. Please answer as each question asks ('why?' simply means that you have room to explain your answer, if you chose.). The last question is for any comments, questions, or suggestions. Thank you in advance, please E-mail to the address at the end.
I) are you [male/female]
II) what is your age?
III)what is your major/occupation?
IV) what type of music do you listen to (check all that apply)?
a. hard rock b. metal c. alternative d. blues e. rap
f. jazz g. soft rock h. easy listening i. country
j. classical k. hard core l. dance m. new age
n. others (did I miss any?)____________
1) Do you think recordings with objectionable or offensive lyrics be labeled? [yes/no] Why?
2) Do you think certain recordings should be banned from minors (under 18 years of age)? [yes/no] why?
3) Do you think certain recordings should be banned. Period. [yes/no] Why?
4) If yes to any of the above, who should decide:
a. parents
b. government
c. music industry
d. other________________
feel free to add any comments on this.
5) Do you think [more/less] should be done for controling record sales, or do you think the present labeling system is enough?
6) What is your definition of censorship? Also, feel free to add comments, suggestions, questions, or further explanations.
Please E-mail at: mtt@kepler.unh.edu or hit 'R' to reply.
thanks.
Matthew T. Thompson
disclaimer: if any responses are used in paper, they will be anoynamous (sp?) unless the person specifies they what their name to be used.
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In article <1993Apr22.213815.12288@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>In <1993Apr22.130923.115397@zeus.calpoly.edu> dmcaloon@tuba.calpoly.edu (David McAloon) writes:
>
>> ETHER IMPLODES 2 EARTH CORE, IS GRAVITY!!!
>
>If not for the lack of extraneously capitalized words, I'd swear that
>McElwaine had changed his name and moved to Cal Poly. I also find the
>choice of newsgroups 'interesting'. Perhaps someone should tell this
>guy that 'sci.astro' doesn't stand for 'astrology'?
>
>It's truly frightening that posts like this are originating at what
>are ostensibly centers of higher learning in this country. Small
>wonder that the rest of the world thinks we're all nuts and that we
>have the problems that we do.
>
>[In case you haven't gotten it yet, David, I don't think this was
>quite appropriate for a posting to 'sci' groups.]
Was that post for real? I thought it was a late April Fool joke. Some of it
seemed a bit over the top even by McElwaine/Abian/etc standards :-)
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"And crawling on the planet's face
Some insects called the human race
Lost in time and lost in space" (RHPS)
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