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alejandrozarzuelo: But I think laser sail ones are easier
alejandrozarzuelo: Also fusion rockets
alejandrozarzuelo: Laser sail tech can get you to Mars in 3 days
hikukomoru: Gay
alejandrozarzuelo: Realistically too, you just need a laser sail
futurist_wizard: With this level of tech, just mind upload me
rayanquitplayin: I think we’ll get there in 30-40 years. We won’t setup a self-sustaining civilization for a while, prob hundreds of years
okbut: Pretty realistic if you ask me. Just hop in the hoffman dude
hikukomoru: I hear lots of stories like that
From friends and family that visited Brazil
Not paying private security or anything, but just about having to be careful there
alejandrozarzuelo: With a Hoffman transfer yes
But why do that instead of a constantly accelerating ship
futurist_wizard: **Realistically**
drewsni: Come on what????? They didn’t pay for private security because they wanted to lol
alejandrozarzuelo: You could realistically get to Mars in half a week
futurist_wizard: 6 months bruv
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/crane-brazil-grab-poor-car-gif-17372636
alejandrozarzuelo: Not necessarily
futurist_wizard: Too long to get there
alejandrozarzuelo: Oh come on, some people don't have any sense of scale
rayanquitplayin: I’d do it, fuck it
drewsni: I remember my dads company sent him to Brazil once and they had to pay for private security lol
alejandrozarzuelo: Living in the Martian capital must be crazy
okbut: My dad is like South Chinese or sumn
rayanquitplayin: Wait til humans become multi-planetary
zoermena: I dont want to get hungry right now
hikukomoru: Move here
I'll take you in
okbut: We got AI Fries
alejandrozarzuelo: So good
alejandrozarzuelo: HMMMM OOLONG
hikukomoru: Are you Taiwanese or just live there
futurist_wizard: Ai should just carpet bomb the cartels in a big ai swarm
alejandrozarzuelo: Except in the mountains
This is why Taiwan is the best Province for Oolong
futurist_wizard: Facts
okbut: 20 for South coast
zoermena: Ridiculous is the cartel owning the literal government
alejandrozarzuelo: I just want AI to develop all of the world so I can visit easily
okbut: C
okbut: Coldest Taiwan gets is like 15
rayanquitplayin: https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/04/penne-italy-one-euro-home-program.html
Did you guys see this? This small Italian town sold houses for $1
hikukomoru: That's a plus
alejandrozarzuelo: Don't be so ridiculous
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aero447:
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/sousou-no-frieren-frieren-blow-kisses-blow-kiss-chu-gif-7279350028791621942
.0xunkn0wn: for ai
.0xunkn0wn: what would be the best gpu if i wanted to build one rack in a home lab
futurist_wizard: this is disgusting
futurist_wizard: stop posting this
himekokatagiri: mwah
himekokatagiri: Komoruuuuu
.wolfnacht: https://girlcockx.com/OpenRouterAI/status/1910347642355212636
.wolfnacht: i love these freeloading days
hikukomoru: Bye babe
wellmeaningalien: Logging off bye
sweetievee__33649: can i send her an email to get on her newsletter for when the next spot is open
hikukomoru: You gotta tell her abt me 🫦
wellmeaningalien: OK man fucking ok
hikukomoru: Zamn that's hot
wellmeaningalien: She'd fucking kill you Bro
wellmeaningalien: Thats me soingenbob
sweetievee__33649: insane work good job spongebob
hikukomoru: Wish your mom did that to me instead
wellmeaningalien: I could pick you up and dribble you on the court
hikukomoru: I'm 163 cm
wellmeaningalien: 🥰
hikukomoru: I'm not tall
wellmeaningalien: I speak how I want retard
futurist_wizard: Stop saying yall
sweetievee__33649: i am like 5'3 thank you
futurist_wizard: You aren't American
wellmeaningalien: Yall
wellmeaningalien: Stfu tall freaks
sweetievee__33649: not even asking about me <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
drewsni:
wellmeaningalien: ☺️
wellmeaningalien: How are you what are you doing
sweetievee__33649: you are grounded or something
sweetievee__33649: what she say huh
wellmeaningalien: Momma just called me
futurist_wizard: 100 kg for 10 is 135kg one rep max
wellmeaningalien: Imagine a large ginger woman
wellmeaningalien: Thing is my mom is pretty bulky tho and packs some weight
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.wolfnacht:
hey1_1hey: I speak for the mushrooms
fractalcomputer: Voici la dégénérescence de la société française.
hikukomoru: Oui oui je suis la baguette
wellmeaningalien: idiot
hey1_1hey: No bruh
wellmeaningalien: do yall even know what that means lol
wellmeaningalien: je serais plus prudent la prochaine fois 🫡
hey1_1hey: Really sums up this channel huh
wellmeaningalien: ah désolé je savais pas que t'étais une meuf
fractalcomputer: Je t'interdis de m'appeler un mec dans l'avenir.
.wolfnacht: is thugshaker thing dead ?
wellmeaningalien: say i wanna see the livebench numbers
hey1_1hey: This trumps the Llama 4 release
hey1_1hey: Best thing I've seen this week
hey1_1hey: OH MY LORDY LORD
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/diddy-diddy-excuses-diddy-sorry-diddy-daddy-puff-daddy-gif-4480773401231906335
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/lebron-lebron-james-diddy-diddy-party-sean-combs-gif-4104351489513445035
wellmeaningalien: you ask as if you dont precisely know
hey1_1hey: Whats the worse that could happne?
.wolfnacht:
wellmeaningalien: HANG UP HANG THE FUCK UP
hey1_1hey: I dont like being called a stupid dumb fucker usually ☝️
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/diddy-gif-8961692530157879891
wellmeaningalien: highly intelligent is debatable
hey1_1hey: I prefer praise from my highly intelegent chatbots please
wellmeaningalien: komoru === p diddy
wellmeaningalien: does it have like a bias
wellmeaningalien: i was curious tho like why would it jerk me off and call you a retard
hikukomoru: Nothing 😇
hey1_1hey: 🤝
wellmeaningalien: oh tbh i didnt doubt it
wellmeaningalien: me
hey1_1hey: Any penis music listeners in here?
wellmeaningalien: tu me fais CHIER mec
hey1_1hey: No lmao
fractalcomputer: Thou corresponds to the French tu.
wellmeaningalien: <:CSMagni:694612757806317608>
wellmeaningalien: fuck you nerd
wellmeaningalien: fr?
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drewsni: Why is Google like this man
hikukomoru: Get this man off the stage please
hikukomoru: I just died of cringe
drewsni: FUCKING WHY
drewsni: STOP GOOGLE
drewsni: Ugh it’s bad
st.sioux: text to music sheesh
literallyvarane: Which is actually pretty big news ngl
literallyvarane: Update: you can use Gemini on your Top Secret workflows
hikukomoru: Omg Jensen
hey1_1hey: Huh, whats goiing on
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/confused-no-nope-gif-5413974953753901704
hikukomoru: Wtf why is mcdonalds there
literallyvarane: CEO of McDonald’s on stage this is a wash pack it up lads
literallyvarane: How the fuck is 2.5 flash “we’re giving more info soon”
retrerox: Ill wait the hype or doom message you post here to know what is happening
metaldragon01: Live now
metaldragon01: https://www.youtube.com/live/Md4Fs-Zc3tg?si=WjVWxUp6k95etpEJ
retrerox: ok ill try
retrerox: Should i use deep research right?
literallyvarane: I’m not sure if there’s a rate limit for these things, so don’t feel the need to test these lolol. I don’t want to use your DR uses if they’re limited.
literallyvarane: Neither of those are *really* “just look this up” questions. But they’re higher level which would benefit from much more reasoning and supplemental research.
literallyvarane: Huh. I’m not sure what would be a good example to test this?
Maybe two different questions.
1. Suppose we live in a world where the United States was still part of the British empire. What different historical events might explain what lead to that occurring? How might the ‘modern’ British empire and global geopolitical environment look in that context?
2. I’m trying to write a program to systematically use an LLM to consume all fiction written for the 40k (or any sufficiently large fictional universe), and then identify and write compelling new story arcs. How might you structure such a program?
Each of these >>> 2.5 vs 2.5 deep research?
ailoveyoom: Imagine if OAI rented Google TPUs for inference <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
ailoveyoom: It's not embedding the video 😔
ailoveyoom: https://fxtwitter.com/allen_ai/status/1909954525625999543?t=YzB_flIAgZcrocTXtZf3Ng&s=19
metaldragon01: Early take off vibes tbh
wellmeaningalien: this shit is why opneai wants to spend a trillion bucks making their own chips too
wellmeaningalien: is this why theyre serving gemini 2.5 pro for so damn cheap?
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: number go wheeeee
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: https://blog.google/products/google-cloud/ironwood-tpu-age-of-inference/
retrerox: i have advanced gemini i just dont know how to use it
retrerox: Idk ask me and i can try out
literallyvarane: Like “can you design a general system m that does XYZ?” Is it better at that?
literallyvarane: Does anyone know if deep research by Google is better at… non-research things?
futurist_wizard: No
theaiguy69420_89814: lol
retrerox: Can we talk about the fact we might get AGI before GTA 6?
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brain4brain: Legit reasoning understanding
brain4brain: With coherent textual information
brain4brain: It would be very impressive because there are things like infographic and fake Wikipedia page it generated
spicy.lemonade: difusion then transform
spicy.lemonade: and doing difusion
spicy.lemonade: because its generating every pixel
ailoveyoom: Then why does one img take so long 😔
spicy.lemonade: its equivalent to gpt 4
spicy.lemonade: they are just using transformers
spicy.lemonade: they arent
spicy.lemonade: then it needs reasoning
spicy.lemonade: as in if you have to think more than 10 seconds on where each square would go
ailoveyoom: You don't think they're doing visual reasoning behind the scenes when generating an img?
spicy.lemonade: this is more of an o3 image gen test
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: doing reflection is the same reasoning as arc agi
brain4brain: Seem better than most model but messed up both the Rubik’s color and mirror
ailoveyoom: It's joever /s
ailoveyoom: 4o still seems to struggle with mirrors
brain4brain: Every single time
spicy.lemonade: needs reasoning
spicy.lemonade: gets wrong unfortunately
wellmeaningalien: not for the new v3 just the regular v3
wellmeaningalien: reduced the cost of memory and computation vastly on inference time
wellmeaningalien: multi head latent attention
brain4brain: They reworked the architecture for new v3?
wellmeaningalien: or even post training philosophies like with o1
wellmeaningalien: i also think this kind of thing and for example deepseek v3's huge performance gains is why reworking architectures is just as important as test time compute scaling for achieving new state of the art
spicy.lemonade:
brain4brain: “A scrambled Rubik’s next to a mirror”
brain4brain: I got one for Gary Marcus
anathemaofmankind: While ignoring all the good stuff
anathemaofmankind: And he's gonna cherry pick the worst one
spicy.lemonade: i bet
spicy.lemonade: to look for errors rn
spicy.lemonade: gary marcus is running all kinds of tests
anathemaofmankind: Holy
spicy.lemonade: holy
spicy.lemonade:
wellmeaningalien: i think combining llms with image gen was the sort of breakthrough that allowed for test time compute scaling for creating images and it seems to be working a wonder
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spicy.lemonade: In some form
spicy.lemonade: But could even come this year
spicy.lemonade: I feel like 2027 is reasonable
etnin_: same
spicy.lemonade: 2027
brain4brain: What’s your OG timeline
_letterbox: Maybe on openrouter it's available?
spicy.lemonade: It’s a cool thing
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: This didn’t change my agi timeline
_letterbox: Wanna test it out first
brain4brain: Now what’s your AGI timeline
spicy.lemonade: Imagine 3d generation at this level
_letterbox: Sadge
spicy.lemonade: Who will be the first company to implement this but in 3d
etnin_: yea
_letterbox: Is the new image thing only for paying users?
spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade: The next step is 3d
ailoveyoom: Notice how the LL, M and A are capitalized too 🤯
spicy.lemonade: Always my first thought
spicy.lemonade: Imagine showing this to someone in 2020😭
spicy.lemonade: 💀
.histic:
.wolfnacht: ikr, at a first glance, can't tell
.histic: jesus.
the more 4o generations i see, the more i realize we entered in a new era.
etnin_: I mean they announced it more than a year ago i think, they had plenty of time to distill it.
spicy.lemonade: 4o
.wolfnacht: wait is it fr ?
spicy.lemonade:
st.sioux: i barely worked today 😛
st.sioux: how is openai not going broke with this? i've been using it like all the time since it released
.wolfnacht: this one's much better
.wolfnacht: Lmao
st.sioux:
etnin_:
etnin_: i love this bro, it feels like when gpt 4 just released.
.histic: he looks unreal.
just like real life.
connorsphone.: Lying is overpowered
.histic: crazy
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metaldragon01: I think most people have very poor intuition about ai and progress
spicy.lemonade: just disproved that paper
spicy.lemonade: OMG
metaldragon01: Progress continues <:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade: LOLL
spicy.lemonade: HOLY FUCK
metaldragon01: https://x.com/mbalunovic/status/1907436704790651166
spicy.lemonade: gemini 3.0 better be an agent
spicy.lemonade: Image been getting started for 2 mins
maintcrew: no i hate number theory and combinatorics i aint even gonna try
clevermoniker: https://x.com/BowTiedMara/status/1907115214920646942
fractalcomputer: Say, <@1272646380233560067>, would you like to quickly demonstrate the solution for the case n > 1?
fractalcomputer: God forbid symbols have some ulterior meaning recognisable independently from the context.
maintcrew: if u use latex the model is more likely to get it since they saw so many of these in latex code from all over the internet or axiv
maintcrew: ig depends on how you write the equation
st.sioux: like if you send it a picture of a piece of paper with it instead of text would it get it right
st.sioux: do you think it makes a difference if the equation is an image vs text?
maintcrew: but if you use the wrong template the model is dumber and goes insane
maintcrew: the chat window does it for you
maintcrew: modrls have templates under which you must structure the input
maintcrew: ahha its even worse under the hood
fractalcomputer: Right. I asked Gemini 2.5 the same question and now it's thinking about Catalan's conjecture for some inane reason.
fractalcomputer: But the interesting bit was that they both recognised the question much faster when I asked the question in its traditional form, i.e. a^n - 1 = p.
fractalcomputer: Without reasoning it took a few consequent attempts. With reasoning ~2 attempts.
st.sioux: so you switched the letters and it didn't know basically?
spicy.lemonade: This chat will be so hyped when gpt 5 drop
fractalcomputer: It took both Grok and 4o reasoning to detect that I was essentially just asking it to demonstrate elementary properties of Mersenne primes when I asked it the question using Greek letters instead of the familiar symbolism; i.e. ξ^ν - 1 = π where ξ, ν & π are positive integers and π is some prime.
alejandrozarzuelo: thats all i wanted to say
alejandrozarzuelo: we know very little about the nature of intelligence, we should expect to be surprised in either direction
spicy.lemonade:
alejandrozarzuelo: or that evolution/evolution like systems are the best way to get an intelligent system
st.sioux: that's assuming what we build will mirror what evolution produced
alejandrozarzuelo: this is not just for AI, i am talking abour intelligence in general btw
alejandrozarzuelo: but all I am saying is that maybe some concepts are more **fundamental** than we thought
fractalcomputer: I don't know, most models I've tried still resort to probabilistic guessing based on test samples when confronted with a slightly harder problem.
futurist_wizard:
alejandrozarzuelo: we have some notions, sure
alejandrozarzuelo: we dont have a good grasp of what intelligence entails or why it evolved in non human animals and in humans the way it did
alejandrozarzuelo: remember when we thought creativity was one of the hardest things to achieve synthetically?
alejandrozarzuelo: i am just saying that maybe we are missing something in our understanding of intelligence
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wellmeaningalien: that guy made a flight sim with ads you can rent out using claude 3.7 sonnet
wellmeaningalien: welllll
spicy.lemonade: gpt 6.5 eldenring from scratch
spicy.lemonade: gpt 5.5 full 3d games(no ray tracing/graphics)
wellmeaningalien: yeah mama
wellmeaningalien: gpt 3.5 : barely functioning code snippets → gpt 4 : half working small programs → claude 3.7 and gemini 2.5 : rudimentary but functional games with functionalities
spicy.lemonade: "build"
spicy.lemonade: give it elden ring gameplay
spicy.lemonade: imagine this 3 more iterations
spicy.lemonade: from 1 video
spicy.lemonade: its crazy how well it worked
wellmeaningalien: you can still guide it to get good enough
wellmeaningalien: yeah i had it going on in the background
brain4brain: Did it also add the music or did you add that yourself
spicy.lemonade: YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
spicy.lemonade: wont stay still
spicy.lemonade: your ducks are wayyy harder
wellmeaningalien: i suppose white collar will most likely get displaced as a collateral of LLMs
brain4brain: Isn’t new scientific discover basically Demis’s definition of AGI
wellmeaningalien: but lets not underestimate the rate of robotics progress
wellmeaningalien: i guess so
hikukomoru: Crazy how in fiction blue collars are always the ones that are replaced first
But in reality it's white collars that are getting automated now
wellmeaningalien: people who still wanna do data entry in 2025 lmao
wellmeaningalien: SWEs and many many many other professions
wellmeaningalien: yeah there's no denying
hikukomoru: Unironically over
hikukomoru: That said, SWEs are soooo cooked
hikukomoru: Well, it was inevitable I suppose
They have their TPUs, tons of compute, and the best researchers
.histic: 💀 google is becoming a monster.
they were far behind a year ago, now they seem to be making frontier models quickly.
hikukomoru: Christ google is fucking crushing it
wellmeaningalien: wtf those gpus catching up to google
wellmeaningalien: only in 8 minutes did i beat it
.histic: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bard/comments/1jx6lr4/unreleased_google_model_dragontail_crushes_gemini/
damn, Google is ahead of their own model already?
spicy.lemonade: and it was too hard lol
spicy.lemonade: because they were going in and out like how some snake games do
spicy.lemonade: 3rd add walls
spicy.lemonade: 2nd behave like boids
spicy.lemonade: 1st was make game
spicy.lemonade: this took 3 iterations
wellmeaningalien: mine behaves weird
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hey1_1hey: You are litterly the least thought about European country
hikukomoru: Because everyone knows we are superior
hikukomoru: There are no slurs for portguese people
futurist_wizard: What
hey1_1hey: I expect nothing less
futurist_wizard: Roundhead
hikukomoru: I look like and act like that btw
fractalcomputer: China Swede, roundhead, etc.
hey1_1hey: Its been a long week
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/kemimedbo-bo-kemi-pang-bomb-gif-25368713
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-whtie-and-black-cry-praying-looking-up-gif-553441503240360994
hey1_1hey: Ah
hikukomoru: Read the message I was replying too
hey1_1hey: Very
hikukomoru: Are you slow
futurist_wizard:
hey1_1hey: You're litterly speaking it rn you bellend
hikukomoru: They're autistic drunkards and their language is impossible to learn
maintcrew: the original british accent is the american accent
maintcrew: british accents came bc the poor brits wanted to mimic the (french and germanic) nobility
hey1_1hey: Truely beatiful
hey1_1hey: "Yo' a'r igh' ma'te"
futurist_wizard: Our accents charm them
hey1_1hey: Yeah we are great and have nothing wrong with us
futurist_wizard: The whole world secretly loves us
hikukomoru: Sorry, had to censor that word
hikukomoru: "Br*tish" is already a slur for like 99% of the world
futurist_wizard: British have none
hey1_1hey: What the fuck did the fins do?
hikukomoru: For finnish people?
I only know finngol
hey1_1hey: 10/10
hey1_1hey: Insane image
hikukomoru: That's cool
hikukomoru:
fractalcomputer: Finns have had several slurs.
.histic:
hikukomoru: Bulgarians so irrelevant there's not even a slur for them
futurist_wizard:
maintcrew: since they struggling over there
maintcrew: maybe broke
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hikukomoru: That's why no one plays Dota
No waifus
hey1_1hey: Yeah I should've listned
hey1_1hey: AHHHHHH
sarik0497: It's...something
sarik0497: Don't search for Overwatch in the GIF tab
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/vex-league-of-legends-vex-league-of-legends-spinning-horizontally-spinning-gif-27671505
hey1_1hey: Dota got NOTHING on league waifus
sarik0497: Well, if you are just gonna say it loud then!
ailoveyoom: I think Overwatch too 🤔
hey1_1hey: LOL bitches goes crazy though.
ailoveyoom: The only thing I like about LoL is their R34 stuff
hikukomoru: Most generico bitch in the game
sarik0497: They make good songs, though
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/strike-a-pose-akali-kaisa-ahri-evelynn-gif-25794878
hey1_1hey: You did not just say that
st.sioux: jinx is the only anime people i like
hikukomoru: Jinx is a basic bitch
joaoluz19: I like watching the competitive more than playing
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/vex-my-beloved-vex-lol-league-of-legends-my-beloved-gif-4281718556351693547
hey1_1hey: Not even jinx smh
sarik0497: They do. I wish I was making it up.
hey1_1hey: Getting compound interest on my mental health 💪
hikukomoru: I fucking hate League so much it's unbelievable
The only thing I like about that stupid ass game is Vex my little pookie bear
sarik0497: Indeed. Also stay away from WoW for your own sake....12 years into the dumpster...
hey1_1hey: People really be saying that 😭 ?
hey1_1hey: I used to play CS aswell. I used to be lethal with an AWP
joaoluz19: You have no idea of the misfortune you have spared your future.
sarik0497: Hardest part is to figure out which ones make a good point and which ones are just sexist.
Like the whole "hurr, why is the MC in GTA 6 a woman?! She can't hold all of those guns!"
Bruh, if a man can pull a rocket launcher out of his ass, I think a woman beating up men is fine too.
st.sioux: if you play csgo you get told that every 2-3 rounds
hey1_1hey: I prob have over 10k in that. Its not logged though
joaoluz19: Gigachad
joaoluz19: Oh but it's multiplayer too
hey1_1hey: Thought so, I played leauge for a while then got told to kms 3 games in a row and uninstalled 👍
joaoluz19: Maybe Minecraft, don't know how much
hey1_1hey: People really just hate women huh
joaoluz19: I said League of legends mb <@439829942310666250>
ailoveyoom: Nicest Warhammer fan
hikukomoru: Occasionally the lore guys go on long rants about women, but that's just how Warhammer nerds are
st.sioux: i dont really stick to 1 game
st.sioux: i think like 300 in horizon 5
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spicy.lemonade: 1.5
spicy.lemonade: 1.0
spicy.lemonade: gemini has been real good with drops
spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade: there isnt
spicy.lemonade: and new architectures
okbut: There's a model x.x epidemic at Gemini too <:madge:831946367462670338>
spicy.lemonade: but demis cares about curing everything
spicy.lemonade: maybe thats the case if it was just oAI
spicy.lemonade: either deepmind or xai will accelerate
spicy.lemonade: if openAI does that theyl lose
spicy.lemonade: thats not what deepmind is doing
okbut: Might even make GPT-5 dumber for a bit <:tinfoilcat:901321035352277052>
spicy.lemonade: nope
okbut: IMO it's only about nudging a few percents on benchmarks every month to reclaim SOTAs now
I fear that OAI will milk this
spicy.lemonade: by the time i graduate we have agi. by the time i get phd we have asi
spicy.lemonade: wont graduate in time
spicy.lemonade: given up on dreams of being researcher at openAi or deepmind
spicy.lemonade: we can almost taste it👀
spicy.lemonade: eeveryone can feel agi
spicy.lemonade: i can see the future here
spicy.lemonade: its so nice to be in san fran
spicy.lemonade: not lame civilian
spicy.lemonade: like a reporter or general watching during manhattan project
spicy.lemonade: need to BE there
spicy.lemonade: know some deepmind and oAI researchers and my friend is friends with ege and other people at epoch/ their new startup and berkeley a great place to form such connections
spicy.lemonade: in the road to superintelligence
spicy.lemonade: to be in the room where it happens
spicy.lemonade: ive made it my life mission
okbut: >Implying deterministic being
joaoluz19: I think we would already know who we would be before transcendence, since it would be programmed, or at least we would have the probability models
spicy.lemonade: then ill be able to ascend
spicy.lemonade: give me a good 100 million years of fdvr
spicy.lemonade: what if i realize existance is pain and end it all or something
spicy.lemonade: knowledge is a curse
spicy.lemonade: before i ascend
spicy.lemonade: give me 1 million years of being fun dumb human
spicy.lemonade: not yet
spicy.lemonade: i dont wanna do that
joaoluz19: Imagine who we would be if we could hypothetically multiply our intelligence by millions of times a la Kurzweil
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Echo Chess Daily#4400:
mantegh5061: Total luddite d-
himekokatagiri: GPT-5 is coming end of the year
himekokatagiri: like uh new models etc
himekokatagiri: what's known about happenings behind the scenes
aero447:
mantegh5061: SINGULARITY SINGUALRLITY SINGUALRITY
aero447: Reposting because it's too perfect.
ldj: Not the murder part tho
himekokatagiri: alright so this week is over
ldj: Since I’m always doing self-improvement stuff and disciplined about my routines etc
ldj: My friend said I actually remind him of the guy in this movie lol
himekokatagiri: <:the_horror:1136585527173337118>
aero447: I'll Kag you yeah in minute.
himekokatagiri: it's gonna be like kaguya
aero447: 🫵
himekokatagiri: You two should kiss!
aero447: We know what you are.
aero447: Shut up whoreMach.
ailoveyoom: It's called being ace 😭
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-gif-27578658
himekokatagiri: I'm booored
ldj: Based
metaldragon01: I only had issues with o4, o3 was fine tbh
himekokatagiri: 🤷♂️
theaiguy69420_89814: <@269678268670672896> o3 in the API doesnt have the same output context issues as the web app
aero447:
himekokatagiri: gotta ride out the tide
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/kotor-apathy-is-death-gif-2169628935331881888
himekokatagiri: nothing I can do
himekokatagiri: so what do I do
aero447: Apathy is death.
aero447: No.
himekokatagiri: it's not your fault the world is fucked
himekokatagiri: look there's nothing wrong about being maladjusted
aero447:
aero447: However.
aero447: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ucKbF5l4LvU/mqdefault.jpg
himekokatagiri: though I won't fix the world lol I'll bail to the sims
trojan09205: yall familiar with this?
https://github.com/openai/codex
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wellmeaningalien: peut être toi tu peux etre gay puis moi je vais voir
.wolfnacht: i was more comfy with eng
hikukomoru: parler français ou gtfo
hey1_1hey: Im not
fractalcomputer: On peut rester gaiement dans cette compréhension mutuelle.
futurist_wizard: Stop being a degen
_cloudost: Velo
wellmeaningalien: well of course duh your language is just a fake language its just spanish with a trench coat
_cloudost: Veo 2
hey1_1hey: This is the french channel ty
_cloudost: WGERE ID VEO 2?
hikukomoru: Now I can't answer anymore lol
Limited vocab
But yeah, I feel the same way about spanish
wellmeaningalien: c'est clair tu sais
futurist_wizard: I got diagnosed at 4, im legit as they come
wellmeaningalien: bah bon c'est pas grave tu vas comprendre quand les mechants chatons vont venir
fractalcomputer: Je ne blague pas.
hey1_1hey: Drugs
hey1_1hey: Close
wellmeaningalien: t'as pas compris la blague?
wellmeaningalien: tu sais parfois j'entends l'italien et ça me parais beaucoup comme le français
futurist_wizard: Breaking bad
hikukomoru: Fake autist
fractalcomputer: Morts de chat? Mais non, c'est justement parce que la mort semblera plus préférable que la vie.
wellmeaningalien: mais en meme temps j'ai jamais pris des classes de portuguais non plus
hey1_1hey: I bet you cant guess mine
hikukomoru: sont langues latines
wellmeaningalien: mec je lis rien du portuguais moi
futurist_wizard: I do not
hikukomoru: parce que je parle portugais
wellmeaningalien: non?
wellmeaningalien: ahhh je blague je blague on sera tous mort a cause de chat j'ai pété
futurist_wizard: I noticed the mountain dew stains on your shirt
fractalcomputer: Je prie que le bon Dieu te montre que tu as tort.
wellmeaningalien: je doute de ça
hikukomoru: Je entendre tout
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/usa-eeuu-trump-thumbs-up-gif-15528478
wellmeaningalien: bientot on sera tous des americains de toute façon
fractalcomputer: Être américain dans ce temps-ci n'est pas grand chose.
wellmeaningalien: you're better than me already
wellmeaningalien: freddy fazbear super mario anime
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himekokatagiri: idk I think it could be fun if you got used to it but then you could reset
ai9708: imagine constant heroin with no negative side effects
ai9708: thats probably what a lot of ppl would do then
ai9708: if fdvr happens, we could be in a contant high dopamine state while making our receptors not getting used to it
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/raoul-duke-fear-and-loathing-uhm-shades-gif-17181748
himekokatagiri: though reenacting fear & loathing is very tempting
himekokatagiri: you're not gonna drink 24/7
himekokatagiri: I mean]
futurist_wizard: Man could live any life, decides to become an alcoholic
futurist_wizard: Drinking in fdvr is just tragic
.wolfnacht: if fdvr comes i would be living in dragon's dogma world as arisen
futurist_wizard: I don't see why not
himekokatagiri: 😭
himekokatagiri: but we can't die in the simulations
alejandrozarzuelo: (pun intended)
alejandrozarzuelo: the sweet spot
alejandrozarzuelo: also, in the case of sweet cider, alcohol DOES affect the taste while not tasting like alcohol
alejandrozarzuelo: having a healthy liver is based
hikukomoru: Come on
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Barely counts as a drink
alejandrozarzuelo: then I have flashbacks, because i didnt have a good childhood
but the sweet cider was nice
futurist_wizard: I just think why even if its that low
_cloudost: I wanted to upvote this comment but then saw it had the funny "69" upvote number so i didnt upvote
alejandrozarzuelo: reminds me of my childhood
alejandrozarzuelo: so good
alejandrozarzuelo: sweet cider is hmmmmm
alejandrozarzuelo: i mean i will drink a kombucha and a sweet cider
but those have like 0.5%-1% alcohol
himekokatagiri: trust me
himekokatagiri: alcohol is the easiest way to feel like an anime girl
futurist_wizard: It does taste like shit
hikukomoru: Wine tastes great
hikukomoru: Bitchboy
alejandrozarzuelo: like ew
wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/cheers-toast-salute-here%27s-to-you-heres-to-you-gif-1839778403502981320
alejandrozarzuelo: alcohol tastes weird
himekokatagiri: un elissir 🥃
himekokatagiri: blue label
himekokatagiri: I want whiskey
hikukomoru: God I love wine
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literallyvarane: Curious what we expect 4.1 to be if it’s API exclusive?
zonchao: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
zonchao: i am the local spacex/xAI/X rep 😤
hey1_1hey: Pretty coherent still I'd say
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-gif-12280691131005323983
hey1_1hey: Exact reason why I say borderline and why I think I dont have dyslexia. I dont want to think I am retarded and stupid
futurist_wizard: I do have dyslexia, sometimes wo rds wi ll l ook l ike t h is
hey1_1hey: I got tested twice and it was borderline so lets go with that
hikukomoru: I think he's just retarded
hey1_1hey: Counter offer: I am borderline dyslexic
futurist_wizard: I think mushroom has dyslexia
hikukomoru: And I'm the one who's supposed to be ESL
hikukomoru: exceptions*
Speak English please
futurist_wizard: 'we'
zonchao: we will be launching soon, jensen x elon was so q1
zonchao:
hikukomoru: What happened to the Jensen x Elon kissing pfp? <@750270494615404544>
hey1_1hey: I can make exceptations
hey1_1hey: The horse balls in RDR2 shrink when it gets called
They have Penis type A and Penis type B in BG3
futurist_wizard: Your pfp is even more cringe
hikukomoru: Thought you didn't drink
hey1_1hey: Yeah, bottle of whiskey and some sciccors goes perfect 💪
zonchao: the cocks in cyberpunk have jiggle physics 🔥 shouldve been goty
hikukomoru: Damn bruh you already cut it off
hey1_1hey: Hes just a spoil sport. He needs to join in with are degeneracy to enjoy it
futurist_wizard: Nice
hey1_1hey: Nah I just straight up dont have one. Yanno in video games where its all smoothed over? Thats me right there
zonchao: fractal will be disappointed with this conversation
futurist_wizard: With the 🥀
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/do-it-honk-ms-size-doesn%27t-matter-the-clown-clown-funny-gif-17349313893156847765
hey1_1hey: It really is
hey1_1hey: Whats the kink for clowns called gain
hikukomoru: Sounds easy for you
hey1_1hey: Just pretend you dont have a dick. That usually fixes it
zonchao: the head would be EDGY 🔥
futurist_wizard: Even the thought of it, makes my dick hurt
hikukomoru: It's the pain that makes it good
ailoveyoom: Cock and ball torture 🗣️
hey1_1hey: Like look at those teeth
hey1_1hey: Someones almost certaintly british
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futurist_wizard: Sam Altman is gonna bend over on livestream?
zonchao: https://x.com/nvidianewsroom/status/1911767097262104817
hey1_1hey: I am immune to naps. Well actually no thats a lie. I just feel terrible after them
sieventer: Not before 2030
hey1_1hey: Singulairty confirmed btw
futurist_wizard: I need to nap
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/cavemanspongebob-caveman-spongebob-react-whatreact-gif-20206670
brain4brain: This tweets basically confirms we won’t have UBI any time soon btw
hey1_1hey: Ooga booga
hey1_1hey: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1911782243640754634
hey1_1hey: You need sleep
hey1_1hey: You dont need AI for that
hey1_1hey: I think Fractal needs to get any persons happiness. Since I think we all know here that your baseline happiness is set from birth right. Mine is incredibly high which I am thankful for but for Fractal I know his is terribly low. I wonder if you could increase baseline happiness in a person
futurist_wizard: When will AI cure my eepyiness
brain4brain: Auto embed, the only site that works on TV, my only other option would be to use my iPad
hey1_1hey: I mean lets say you try and get rid of schziophrenia in paitent X. Paitent X doesn't respond well to the surgery, medication whatever and now you've made them worse
brain4brain: Red tapes when lobbying and hyper-personalized psyop targeted catfish agent: 🤫🧏♂️
hikukomoru: What site u use?
futurist_wizard: Why do tink that
hey1_1hey: Especially when handling something as the brain. You mess something up and its kinda over for that person
hey1_1hey: I honestly think AI could do it by 2026 but the thing is... Red tape... So much red tape
futurist_wizard: Hmm
hey1_1hey: Ambitious but I can pray 🙏
brain4brain: 2026
hey1_1hey: When do you guys think AI will make breakthroughs in neuroscience? Such as eliminating a big disease like schizophrenia for instance
brain4brain: I can’t, the sith I use to pirate don’t have subtitle only Japanese sound track
sieventer: Well, you can still enjoy the anime tho
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/vivian-dsena-sips-tea-coffee-drinking-staring-gif-14484033
brain4brain: Bro, I’ve been spoiled to this whole time?!? 😭
wellmeaningalien: bro like i think you explained the whole plot
sieventer: ... ye
brain4brain: Wait a minute… thats a spoiler??
sieventer: .-.
sieventer: Delete spoilers brothar
sieventer: Hello Komoru
hikukomoru: Hi Siev
retrerox: I'm so happy this shit is a thing now.
is there a tab i cant see that talks about medical shit done with AI?
sieventer: ☕
wellmeaningalien: suh
sieventer: Just chilling.
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abundantliving_: https://fxtwitter.com/minchoi/status/1912533776258773495
anathemaofmankind: Also it still messes up bruh
.histic: what's the rate limit for o4-mini-high
anathemaofmankind: It can't make me a minecraft clone
_cloudost: The animation is different and it does several researches when checking information
_cloudost: Idk but o4-mini felt very different than all other models that I've used
zonchao: my manifestations are becoming reality
arjun068046: how good is o3?
_cloudost: And it replied o4-mini
_cloudost: Had to ask it
_cloudost: As you can see I couldn't manually check the model in the third acreenshot
_cloudost: Sama mysteriously gave me o4-mini but only two prompts then when I got back to chat more the model was gone...
spicy.lemonade: because they have to retest
spicy.lemonade: that means gemini 2.5 pro didnt perform bad on arc agi
gamerbath: <@312370916820779040> is the end of this sentence missing?
> Both O3 and O4-mini also achieve new SOTA scores on SWE-Lancer which simulates real world valuable freelance coding work. The previous SOTA score was GPT-4.5 with $45K in simulated earnings, while O3 has now achieved,
ldj: O3 and o4-mini summary:
- Pricing for O3 is $40 per million tokens (O1 was $60)
- Pricing for O4-mini is $4 per million tokens. (10X cheaper than O3)
- O3 is approximately twice as good as Claude-3.7-sonnet when measured in time-horizon difficulties of agentic work.
- O4-mini is approximately 70% better than Claude-3.7-sonnet when measured in time-horizon difficulties of agentic work.
- O3 and O4-mini are both now able to do full web search and data analysis all within their reasoning, and even advanced image perception by zooming and resizing images within its reasoning to better understand them.
- Both models are also capable of generating images, but it's unclear if it's just calling 4o native image gen, or actually generating images natively itself.
Benchmark/Capabilities:
- O3 achieves new SOTA score on SWE-bench verified, even beating the top systems that use large scaffolds in combination with frontier models. O4-mini also beats all current scores, making it second place only to O3.
- Both O3 and O4-mini also achieve new SOTA scores on SWE-Lancer IC which simulates real world valuable freelance coding work. The previous SOTA score was GPT-4.5 with $45K in simulated earnings, while O3 has now achieved $65K, and O4-mini has achieved $56K.
- Both O3 and O4-mini scoring nearly 1,000 ELO points more in Codeforces competition code compared to O1.
- O4-mini has the new Overall SOTA for AIME, scoring 93.4% (with no tool-use)
- Significant jumps have been made in Multi-modal reasoning of charts, jumping up from 55% accuracy to 79% accuracy from O1 to O3.
- In humanities last exam, it's neck and neck with Gemini-2.5-Pro
- In agentic computer-use like TauBench, O3 and O4-mini are beat by a few percentage points by Claude-3.7-sonnnet
hikukomoru: Is it Flash
waspothegreat: google read ahead lol
spicy.lemonade: google wins
spicy.lemonade: its over
spicy.lemonade: gg
sieventer: xDDDDDDDDDD
hikukomoru: New Gemini?
abundantliving_: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1912574628020498708
anathemaofmankind: I wonder if Grok 4 will compete with this
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-lets-goo-gif-11742735383203550293
hey1_1hey: RSI confirmed
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/weareback-wereback-wearebackbaby-hangover-the-gif-18475016
gamerbath: u playing around with o3 already?
spicy.lemonade: nvm have to reload
spicy.lemonade: dude
spicy.lemonade:
futurist_wizard: David is overdosing on soymilk
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kiryu-kazuma-its-so-over-ps2-gif-16662113689094319032
hey1_1hey: https://x.com/polynoamial/status/1912577048868192402
anathemaofmankind: Math can't be solved. New problems will keep getting discovered. The alternative implies omniscience.
Even ASI can't solve math
otub: https://x.com/polynoamial/status/1912575974782423164?s=46
anathemaofmankind: Dumbest claim I've ever seen
futurist_wizard: Soy
futurist_wizard: https://youtu.be/lGz80OP4klY?si=ryhtL_3RDLbNyUY3
Wtf is this thumbnail
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destrucules: So on GPQA Diamond, in non-thinking mode it scores 63, and in thinking mode it scores 64-72, with 72 at 32k budget? Soooo yeah this is like, R1 + og V3 wrapped into one, but slightly smaller.
.wolfnacht: i guess it's the millenials only that are crying over AI mostly
sarik0497: My generation is thankfully not entirely fucked
.wolfnacht: and now the whole dead server is bantering
.wolfnacht: i went to r/genZ discord, and asked people abt AI, got some based replies
trey6033: So fairly sure it is that one
trey6033: The scores they shared of 235b on AIM is exactly shown on that graph
destrucules: I was about to say, on closer inspection of the benchmarks for LCB and AIME, I think this has to be the 235A22B
destrucules: Yeah I agree actually
trey6033: The 235b moe
destrucules: Oh, the big MoE
destrucules: Which is...?
trey6033: 235b
metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/Alibaba_Qwen/status/1916962091925442698
trey6033: Pretty sure it's the main one
destrucules: Lol
metaldragon01: Qwen 3
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/thezvi/status/1916833135330787751?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
destrucules: What model this is?
destrucules: Also what model is shown in those graphs of increasing test time compute?
destrucules: It's still weird after the previous releases were so comprehensive
metaldragon01: Qwen isn't hiding anything
destrucules: Hopefully
metaldragon01: The level of support they released with means you'll get your benchmarks pretty fast here
destrucules: And nothing for the standard mode performance of any model except what appears to be the 32B or something, idk, not clear
destrucules: And somewhat suspiciously missing benchmarks from the models where they did show us something
metaldragon01: You can just extrapolate bro...
destrucules: No information about the 0.6B, no information about the 1.7B, no information about the 8B, no information about the 14B
destrucules: No information here about the 14B
trey6033:
metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/Alibaba_Qwen/status/1916962087676612998
destrucules: I'm saying we have no data
destrucules: I made predictions already
destrucules: "should"?
metaldragon01: Should roughly match qwq 32b
metaldragon01: I'm pretty confident in it ranking overall higher on 3rd party stuff we will see
destrucules: How. Tell me, how strong is Qwen3-14B Reasoning?
metaldragon01: I think we have enough benchmarks
destrucules: I'm so confused and frustrated by this and I don't understand it
destrucules: Or until someone else runs them
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a1c4p0ne: Girls don’t exist in this server I think
futurist_wizard: everything is done
futurist_wizard: past 18 tf can you looksmax
hey1_1hey: Thats the best advice I can give
hey1_1hey: Just live your life
_wwwwww: take the blackpill
hikukomoru: Twinkmaxx bro
zoermena: I plan to "looksmax" this year
hey1_1hey: Thats the same energy as gooners typing in pornhub so much poridage auto corrects to pornhub 😭
technocake.: if you are trans you are banned from being a tomboy
_wwwwww: WE LIVE IN THE MATRIX
hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250> Please stop making me think about femboys
hikukomoru: I've typed femboy too much I have it on autocorrect
hey1_1hey: Its all because I worked out then realised I didn't like the way I looked so I stopped but I still kept the muscle and wide shoulders <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
hikukomoru: Read again 😭
.histic: bro didnt know
hey1_1hey: I could rock being a femboy so unbelievably hard if I didn't look like I had colossus shoulders.
hikukomoru: No
I look like a drowned sewer rat not a hot tomboy
_wwwwww: i'm intersex i feel violated
.histic: wtf is this 💀
zoermena: I´m also like a whitexican
st.sioux: are you a tomboy
zoermena: Why am I sharing this
hikukomoru: NORMALIZE FEMININE MEN
zoermena: Im bi
_cloudost: oh no ... Not this YouTuber
hey1_1hey: Absolutly not he is wrong and I dont help wrong people (I also dont have access to it)
zoermena: I´m yet to make it go away but I´m hopeful, having a job enables me to get a new diet etc. I could be cute if I put 100% effort, so yeah a femboy, height is not a horrible issue since potential partners if you will are abundant in my height or below where I live, but I´m to fucking weird
oooooooooog: we live in a world where tomboys r normal, femboys arent. it's a cruel reality.
_wwwwww: https://youtu.be/XklF9dQ0x8U?si=JX29KfCHF7o2Kvyp
technocake.: will somedone help the poor pope??
_wwwwww: bulbous glandis
oooooooooog: 4o with image > everything
a1c4p0ne: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
hey1_1hey: femboys > tomboys
technocake.: with double gaslighting?
_cloudost: Gemini 2.5 > GPT 4.5
hey1_1hey: Do I have to buy a course now?
oooooooooog: i'll help you get better
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
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zonchao: https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1916778046134145358
aero447: 💀
himekokatagiri: though I think by that point the homeless dude had been murdered
himekokatagiri: and besides the FBI took care of it
fractalcomputer: One might imagine that he tried. Perhaps too many times.
.wolfnacht: Wait is baby puke green? I thought, only their shit was green 💀, idk i get annoyed by kids anyways.
himekokatagiri: Hell, he could even convince himself that he was delusional!
aero447: It *knows* how to get to it's goals faster than we do.
himekokatagiri: I think he had bigger problems to worry about as in being destitute
aero447: The ASI is a speed runner.
aero447: Every normal human is a standard player.
aero447: Imagine it as a video game player.
aero447: You're looking at it wrong.
aero447: And even under these circumstances were ASI real, none of that gradual dev would happen.
aero447: Yes.
fractalcomputer: Does leaving the town erase his knowledge of the fact that the seas are teeming with alien intelligence, conspiring to one day rise up and consume the terrestrials?
aero447: 💀
aero447: Why is she baby puke.
himekokatagiri: 🤷♂️ if he left the town... oh who are we fooling he was a hobo nothing woulda changed for him
fractalcomputer: The protagonist of Shadow Over Innsmouth encounters a lone, madly raving drunkard, the pariah of Innsmouth—and who happens to be the only normal human being in the town alive, with the exception of a random shopkeeper and the protagonist himself. The alcohol doesn't seem to be helping the poor man.
himekokatagiri: ...and you can always shoot first, ask questions later.
himekokatagiri: You can always drink to forget...
fractalcomputer: What match is a blaster to mind-shattering revelations?
himekokatagiri: Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.
.wolfnacht: https://www.rxddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1k9t1f5/spain_and_portugal_hit_by_massive_power_outage/
.wolfnacht: btw i wanna see how r/ufo and r/aliens is gonna connect this to plasma orbs and ayy's
.wolfnacht: *europeans when they have to live one day without electricity*
_3sphere: true
gamerbath: will be fun to watch a short youtube documentary on this in a week
gamerbath: apparently due to extreme temperature oscillations?
gamerbath: along with small parts of france and andorra
gamerbath: there's a giant power outage? I read that the entirety of portugal and half of spain has lost power
fractalcomputer: Is the "Truth" something one wants to know?
zonchao: https://x.com/daaniyaan/status/1916826584469692545
fractalcomputer: Oh but the eldritch knowledge is *horribly* comprehensible—that ephemeral moment of crystal clear clarity is enough to submerge your hastily built sandcastle of a worldview beneath the waves of a black ocean of sweet ignorance.
_3sphere: she's not real
_3sphere: The answer is a dunking of rgb(30,255,0)
.wolfnacht: Idk really, but that's just how fantasy goes, same use to be in anime or back in pokemon where people had different colored hairs.
_3sphere: Knowledge beyond comprehension is noise and frustrating at worst, not madness-inducing
_3sphere: meh, I think Lovecraft was too dramatic about it
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zonchao: is shotgun saying your timelines are optimistic 🤔
fuhulootogan: who said anything about stalling progress?
archon.e: People fail to understand compounding
alejandrozarzuelo: just because we cannot see the future doesnt mean that we have to stall progress on AI
fuhulootogan: intuition isn't really that reliable
fuhulootogan: its just that
fuhulootogan: you can think all you want
archon.e: I can’t. But i really think looking at the rate of progress and extrapolating - I’m not too off
st.sioux: yes bro i can
fuhulootogan: yeah
alejandrozarzuelo: noone can
archon.e: Let it benefit all of humanity instead of a few corporates
fuhulootogan: i don't really think so
fuhulootogan: you?
fuhulootogan: you can say whatever you want but can you really accurately predict the future on a scale of 10 years?
hikukomoru: I agree too 🥺
archon.e: I want to liberate AI like Prometheus liberated fire
fractalcomputer: Alejandro is being a Letzter Mensch yet again.
zonchao: do we have a luddie in the chat 🫣
archon.e: Jobs are over by the next decade
alejandrozarzuelo: the people who want to replace labor also realize that capitalism cannor remain
fuhulootogan: its poetic af
fuhulootogan: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HTDdIO74BuA&pp=ygUrcGlncyBlYXRpbmcgYXQgYSB0YWJsZSBibGFjayBjYXRzIGFuaW1hdGlvbtIHCQl-CQGHKiGM7w%3D%3D i love this animation
zonchao: what are we yappin about
alejandrozarzuelo: therefore we is warranted
alejandrozarzuelo: its not just my opinion, at least on this chat <@866952264223555634> also agrees
st.sioux: shotgun is an infiltrated artist
alejandrozarzuelo: and others
fractalcomputer: As in, you.
alejandrozarzuelo: as in, the people who hold my opinion
alejandrozarzuelo: when I say we i meant me and all the people who agree with me
fractalcomputer: *You* want to replace human labour.
hikukomoru: FDVR beach 😎
fuhulootogan: don't worry boys in 10 years we'll be chilling at the beach
alejandrozarzuelo: do people think we want artists unemployed because we hate them in particular or anything?
like we have some problem with art?
no, we want to replace human labor, and unemployment is a consequence of our capitalist system when you do that
archon.e: ☠️
fuhulootogan: yeah what could go wrong handing over your welfare to the good ol benevolent government
ailoveyoom: 💀
fuhulootogan: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/710563050025123882/1355384622757712052/Bizarre_Irish_Anti-Speeding_PSA_online-video-cutter.com.gif
ailoveyoom: It's called having a dream 🥺
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hikukomoru: It's pretty fun
oooooooooog: just become an author at that point
hikukomoru: I like games where you play god
artemisfowl887394: I'm a hive mind.
futurist_wizard: I'd prefer to be a normal Greek soldier fighting against the God's
anathemaofmankind: How so
fractalcomputer: That's just retarded.
oooooooooog: hive minds are fake anyway
anathemaofmankind: I roleplay as omnipotent god a lot in AI conversations and it's pretty interesting tbh
spicy.lemonade: or nah
zonchao: mine ❤️
spicy.lemonade: <@379982824591065108> did you do side projects
fractalcomputer: Membership is voluntary, at least initially.
artemisfowl887394: I understand man. You're an AM, man
ailoveyoom: Make your own Greek Pantheon level of drama in your god sim
otub: the fractal hivemind will be scary
hikukomoru: Not really
aero447: https://today.ucsd.edu/story/ai-helps-unravel-a-cause-of-alzheimers-disease-and-identify-a-therapeutic-candidate
fractalcomputer: Infinite torture for all eternity. I'd create forms and sensations of pain so intricate that it'll be an honour for the sentient beings that I'll create to experience them.
artemisfowl887394: He's not just trolling. It also showcases the temperament of his mind.
anathemaofmankind: Fractal is trolling
futurist_wizard: Being a god to me would be very boring, restrictions make life interesting
fractalcomputer: Trust me, if they're any good, they'll start thinking about mathematics in no time.
trojan09205: Just keep ur grades to yourself
artemisfowl887394: Fractal, you scare me, if you get access to a God Simulation. I wonder what you'll do.
okbut: Better yet drop this in a GPT's CI/memory etc. for a cool synonym/antonym grabber or rewriter
```If the user message begins with any of the commands in the framework below, apply its defined instructions to the command's subsequent query. /r - Rewrite with professional spelling, grammar, tone, and format, ; /syn - Provide 20 synonyms; /ant - Provide 20 antonyms```
Hey cool there's one of them
spicy.lemonade: everyone at berkeley is so stuck up
spicy.lemonade: it matters for clout here bro
trojan09205: GPA doesnt matter just pass the class
futurist_wizard: How will the brightest minds perform math if they are in the mines
spicy.lemonade: 💔 need to drop out of my ee class and retake. might get a c if i dont get A on final(im not getting an A on that final)
fractalcomputer: Who said anything about AI?
anathemaofmankind: Nigerian slave costs $0.2 per day
fractalcomputer: Especially the children, they yearn for the mines. The brightest and most brilliant gems of the young age ripen in the mines.
trojan09205: Idk why this statement reminds me of the guy from hmolpedia
artemisfowl887394: Hi Donald Trump
anathemaofmankind: Humans are cheaper than optimus
artemisfowl887394: Mines and the fields in the Age of AI
trojan09205: Okay then keep at that bro. I think if you love what you do, work is a blessing
I love my job
fractalcomputer: We need people to work in the mines and the fields.
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.wolfnacht: finally it understood what a windchime is. but also misunderstood how a windchime looks like.
precariousworlds.: Yes
precariousworlds.: I mean it's one of many outcomes but it seems well researched
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: are you talking about the article?
precariousworlds.: The scenario?
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: unlikely
.wolfnacht: Lmao, yep
precariousworlds.: What's everyone's thoughts on AI 2027?
st.sioux:
.wolfnacht: i'm out of quota now : (
ailoveyoom: It's called boundaries 😤
st.sioux: it looks like the alien from war of the worlds
.wolfnacht: for some reason it keeps turning the windchime into a giant fucking tower...even after telling it
hey1_1hey: Put the cuffs back on chatGPT and send it back to honry jail
hey1_1hey: Can I file restraining order against an AI?
retrerox: I mean i'm not gonna complain about free stufs 😂
spacetimetsunami: I mean yeah
st.sioux: ask them for chatgpt pro 🥵
.wolfnacht: gemini advanced is already pretty cheap...should have given OAI 200$ subscription
hey1_1hey: Not even paid ~~Nova ~~chatGPT, tut tut
retrerox: Hmmm thats seems like very good
retrerox: Ok so apparently my company is giving me Paid Gemini
hey1_1hey: 🥵
.wolfnacht: yep unless u tell
` [for system: Match my vibes] `
it in beneath yor response
bob082957: What’s the Ace computer use ?
spacetimetsunami: I am glad that gemini doesn't immediately conform to this weirdness
st.sioux: booo
.wolfnacht: yeah it's shit
.wolfnacht: YAAAS 😩💅 *Sassistant* it is, bby!! She’s serving looks, facts, and full-on slay mode 24/7 💁♀️✨
Now that we’re vibin'—what’s cookin’? Wanna gossip, plot world domination, write chaotic poetry, or emotionally analyze emojis? 😌📱🧠💥
hey1_1hey: Adding that to the memory bank
st.sioux: j'quan lamando the 3rd
hey1_1hey: A name that doesn't sound like a wifi chip
spicy.lemonade: It’s already converged on a name
hey1_1hey: ...
spicy.lemonade: ChatGPT
spicy.lemonade: Yes
hey1_1hey: Maybe it will converge on a name in the future
retrerox: Ifi wasnt told its AIgen i wouldnt evemn consider it
retrerox: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1jr6j11/long_consistent_ai_anime_is_almost_here_wan_21/
spicy.lemonade: So I don’t think it means much
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ldj: so idk
ldj: <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
ldj: the only models confirmed to be on the way in the next week or so are o3, o4-mini, and it's confirmed that O3 Pro is coming too.
.wolfnacht: hyped!! but do i need to update windows for that ? 😭
abundantliving_: https://x.com/satyanadella/status/1912264311474631084
spicy.lemonade: pro just makes it more accurate with answwers i feel
spicy.lemonade: i think its some form of o4
spicy.lemonade: dont think its o3 pro
_cloudost: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/672594370096267294/1301147738829754388/Snapinsta.app_video_424AD90FDC276C3DB748555A7151088E_video_dashinit-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif
ldj: just a way to specify that i'm not talking about the mini version
ldj: O3 full just means "O3" just like O1 full just means "O1"
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: this reminds me of the rumours around GPT-4 when they said it could code full programs
.wolfnacht: what's the difference between O3 full and O3 pro ? isn't pro = full ?
ldj: even if the $20K is somewhat true, it's probably just for some super high rate limit version for maybe enterprise or something
ldj: never believe the price rumours lol
memlaswaif: It's a 20000 dollar agent they better hope it's that smart
spicy.lemonade: always thursday
spicy.lemonade: has to be thursday
spicy.lemonade: not friday
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-lets-goo-gif-11742735383203550293
ldj: Maybe related to this TheInformation reports?
memlaswaif: what does this mean
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575>
Tyler Cowen (Renowned economist, and previously has gotten early access to OpenAI models)
Just said in a podcast today yesterday that he believes an AI model smarter than himself is releasing within the next few days <:thinkies:872847213657735239> (he said he believes it will be AGI, and that he defines AGI as something smarter than himself)
I'm guessing it's O3 full, O4-mini or O3 Pro? or something new and different they have up their sleeve? anyways I'm pretty confident OpenAI is announcing some new model or feature atleast sometime by Saturday
memlaswaif: No
_cloudost:
_cloudost: AGI cars this year?
zonchao: https://x.com/jimmybajimmyba/status/1912387234969661657? 👀
zonchao: https://x.com/dylan522p/status/1912373100668137883?s=46
_cloudost: Yep 👍🏻
zoermena: Cursed profile picture time
zonchao: the tech is here
zonchao: will depend on how much tesla can push regulators
ailoveyoom: Yeah I got that before too
spicy.lemonade: next year elon time
destrucules: Funny how ArtificialAnalysis makes Grok 3 look like shit and EpochAI makes it look revolutionary
a1c4p0ne: Yes
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/tomas-shelby-gif-9632566097741714411
mihrcelium: Wrong channel. <:1453joethinking:1335926693608820787>
zonchao: huh
zoermena:
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spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: for us it does
futurist_wizard: You don't know that for certain
spicy.lemonade:
wellmeaningalien: boobs
.wolfnacht: also this
fractalcomputer: Astute philosophical observation.
.wolfnacht: can someone fire a prompt in gpt ? can it replicate the works of picasso but in a different way ? lets say i want it to be in a techo and trans human way ? [like the one on the right image]
spicy.lemonade: time always moves forewards
spicy.lemonade: i mean its not like we can think backwards
spicy.lemonade: lol
fractalcomputer: My, you should publish your findings. I'm sure the neuroscientific community will embrace this revelation.
spicy.lemonade: in a 100ms gap
spicy.lemonade: all of our senses in one large tensor
spicy.lemonade: sensory data
fractalcomputer: And what would be our tokens?
spicy.lemonade: but combination of visual
spicy.lemonade: our tokens just arent text
spicy.lemonade: we are next token predictors
spicy.lemonade: yes
fractalcomputer: Can one take himself seriously if the one thinks that humans cogitate using tokens of all things?
spicy.lemonade: to solve than humans
spicy.lemonade: i recon llms take less tokens
spicy.lemonade: humans take in alof ot information every 100ms or so
spicy.lemonade: solving arcagi for human didnt take litle tokens
spicy.lemonade: tbh
brain4brain: “As a human, solving the new ARC-AGI-2 took very little tokens, yet LLM needs way more tokens to even match 5% of human ability. This suggests that the ARC-AGI-2 can be solved via brute-force scaling of the parameter and reinforcement learning.”
<:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215> <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215> <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
spicy.lemonade: i think we can have a theortetical solution by the time we get ASI
aero447:
i_like_over_9000_turtles: https://youtu.be/fgT9zGkiLig?si=cDodtpG9OlUevk0-
professorheaven: Solving LEV is something I believe will happen in the 2040s but we would need robots working in the labs conducting experiments and some of these experiments could take a while. Remember it’s not just intelligence that’s slowing us, it’s also time and energy.
.wolfnacht: i didn't knew u were into incubuses!!
.wolfnacht: nice now i saw this post,
https://www.rxddit.com/r/ControlProblem/comments/1jju5by/eric_schmidt_says_a_a_modest_death_event/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
brain4brain: Image feedback loop where reasoning solve image coherence and quality, and the image help the reasoning model reason <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
OpenAI definitely have this ready to be announced
spicy.lemonade: its just a transformer but for image
spicy.lemonade: you dont need reasoning to generate that
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: can do this
spicy.lemonade: gpt4
brain4brain: It’s either very good and big or it does some basic reasoning beforehand
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trojan09205: Thats really interesting
trojan09205: Okay cool if it works for you
So you have no limit on all models?
trojan09205: I saw a vid on n8n yesterday i need to check it out more
st.sioux: o4-mini-high is what ive been using lately
zoermena: Should’ve used sycophant 4o to deal with them
st.sioux: it has a requests per day limit not tokens so i can kind of just paste a ton of code instead of having to pay for tokens
st.sioux: i also used it to get some freelance writing gigs but i hate dealing with customers tbh
zoermena: He should look into n8n it’s more practical and reliable.
trojan09205: What do you get out of Plus that you prefer to using the API with a gpt clone UI
trojan09205: My brother is super hyped on Manus for his business
st.sioux: coding for work
trojan09205: What do you use it mostly for
drewsni: Nah but I’ve seen a few video reviews
st.sioux: i pay for plus too
trojan09205: Have you tried Manus by any chance
trojan09205: I am a cheapskate and i am chatgpt free tier but i just use the API
zoermena: I similarly recommend people deep research.
trojan09205: Hm. I guess people just pay to be able to chat endlessly and they think free tier has a limit or something
Or they like making images lol
My brother is a normie and pays for chatgpt plus
drewsni: I’m highly recommending Claude code using the $100 max plan for anyone who’s not quite happy with current agentic coding
trojan09205: I work online and everyone at work is like hyped on AI for software dev and research
And on this discord its hyper nerds
Ur saying the real world is kind of ignorant or just considers it black magic
zoermena: I hope I’m not starting to sound tiring but whenever this topic comes up I have this to say, I’ve met like 3 people who are paying for GPT plus who only used 4o base model and never touched the other reasoner models. That’s how bad it is.
trojan09205: Which is totally bananas
st.sioux: not much
trojan09205: Being with people irl outside of my circle did make me wonder how much the average normy old knows about AI
trojan09205: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
zoermena: <:Smirk:1074000293123063828>
st.sioux: lol
trojan09205: Im thinking of maybe trying out a picketball pickup league or something with my friend soon
hikukomoru: Furry
trojan09205: Bruh idk why discord doesnt let me play embedded videos in the app anymore
trent_k: zoomers will never produce a cultural equivalent of gg allin
trojan09205: A trans man
trent_k: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II-XC8-6_tY
st.sioux: what kind of evil man transforms his wife into a husky
trojan09205: Well luckily i replaced my wife with a husky recently so i have no master to report to anymore lol
trent_k: I couldn't look my wife in the eyes afterwards if I were commanded out of the room like an unruly pet
trojan09205: Lol 😂
hikukomoru: Puppy is more important than mason nerds
trent_k: being told, as a man, to leave the room, by another man?
trojan09205: They invited me for drinks after they were done but i was mad tired and i had the puppy in the crate
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nsec: ur a learned man deeply unserious shizorant
zoermena: After the pyramid thing I don’t dismiss transformer theory completely
nsec: well like I said it depends on if ur ai is an autobot or a decepticon because u may recall that og optimus prime saying autobots roll out - that means it can be done launched fr however the decepticons had no such line and so forth meanin if we got the decepticon type of transformer thats a roadblock
nsec: I aint use no twitter in 2025 eveythin a man needs is on insta
nsec: <:based:848130804672626698>
.0xunkn0wn: 😨
.0xunkn0wn: what the flip!
ldj: Maybe there is some limitations we're not aware of, but nobody knows for sure
clevermoniker: https://vxtwitter.com/ai_for_success/status/1902719472185852144
ldj: Yea I'm fixing it thanks for bringing it up 👍
it's not matching up with my data
spacetimetsunami: Soooooo funny
spacetimetsunami: Hahaha
spacetimetsunami: Lmfao
spacetimetsunami: <@312370916820779040> whenever people say that the transformer architecture and LLMs won’t get us to AGI or ASI (for whatever reasons) what Is your take on that? Is there actually any reason to think this, or are they just wrong
drewsni: It’s still grok 2
st.sioux: anegrome
st.sioux: anagreme
st.sioux: its called anagorame
zonchao:
zonchao: no
zonchao: low volume
zonchao: <:angry_doggo_hd:1230838420222382120>
st.sioux: wild chon zao appears
.0xunkn0wn: why they keep delaying roadster 😔
maintcrew: no quotes buddy
maintcrew: no bc tesla is omega popular in china + expensive due to tariffs
.0xunkn0wn: the ones called "national security threats"
maintcrew: if u clicked on his account you would see "bot" but we ran out of funds
.0xunkn0wn: are chinese cars better than tesla
maintcrew: no he was llama400b hosted by this server
.0xunkn0wn: guys
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-whtie-and-black-cry-praying-looking-up-gif-553441503240360994
st.sioux: pour one out for the homie
zonchao: yea
maintcrew: hes dead
alejandrozarzuelo: I have checked it with other dates and <@312370916820779040> it seems like 99% is about 1000x less than 50%
alejandrozarzuelo: Unless I am reading this wrong, the 99% line is at 2sec in jan25 while the 50% line is at 30min aka 1800 sec
So it seems like the factor you have is closer to 1000 than to 340
zonchao: yes, its says coming soon
theaiguy69420_89814: ty
theaiguy69420_89814: ok do it
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spicy.lemonade: finally gone
anathemaofmankind: As a rule 34 enjoyer, I enjoy AI art more than human lewds now
frittata: Enjoy it at home
frittata: Or make derivative shit just don’t spill it all over the internet
fractalcomputer: Alejandro may not be recalling the exact definition of a function.
frittata: Want to prove that AI art has an equal place in the mainstream and right to exist? Make good shit
spicy.lemonade: "you wouldnt understand the deeper meaning behind the brush strokes"
frittata: When people say there’s a mountain of derivative slop out there now due to AI they’re not wrong
ailoveyoom: Do you remember all those slop Dall-E 3 pics 😔
anathemaofmankind: Also they're gonna whine if you say it's not good enough and ask you to pay more for edits
frittata: You can tell the difference if you like art
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819
frittata: Many are just copyists
connorsphone.: Actually you have to go to physics for this
maintcrew: lol
frittata: Some real artists use AI
frittata: Let’s be real too most AI art ain’t art
alejandrozarzuelo: no, but it is proven that all intelligent systems have a turing-complete equivalent
spicy.lemonade: loll
spicy.lemonade: and said artist is probably gonna take a week to draw it too
fractalcomputer: Another expert in neuroscience here.
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont hate artists, i only hate artists who gatekeep art to others (and other intelligences)
spicy.lemonade: NO YOU SCUMBAG PAY AN ARTIST
frittata: Ok haha, also “most pro AI users are non rightwing,” enough fake points let’s move on
anathemaofmankind: There I win the hatred olympics
maintcrew: hey guys i want to draw me and my wife in ghibli style should i pay an artist 5 morbillion or use chatgpt
anathemaofmankind: I hate humans
connorsphone.: 🙄
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-jerry-mouse-oh-really-what-did-you-say-gif-4567866740137164332
alejandrozarzuelo: no, we are talking politics
anathemaofmankind: Yes but my original sentence stands correct then 😏
frittata: Unfortunately
spicy.lemonade: I hate artists
ailoveyoom: Are you all still yapping about artists 💀
spicy.lemonade: even more so
spicy.lemonade: its legal
spicy.lemonade: in that case
spicy.lemonade: lol
anathemaofmankind: They're stupid
alejandrozarzuelo: except in the glorious PRC
(and even there not really)
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hey1_1hey: This already looks like heat
i_like_over_9000_turtles: https://x.com/CamsAIshitposts/status/1649103596930187290
connorsphone.: It’s starting right now
spicy.lemonade: tf did zuck do
spicy.lemonade:
gamerbath: it's starting very soon'
gamerbath: cmon guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f3K43FHRKo
i_like_over_9000_turtles: That cat is not dancing...
hikukomoru:
st.sioux: "A biblical false prophet was a servant of the devil attempting to lead people away from the truth."
hey1_1hey: Never again
hey1_1hey: Vrchat is what lonley shizophrenics gather
joaoluz19: We were meant to stay virtual
hikukomoru: AGI needs to make my dollies real
_3sphere: vrchat looks much better
_3sphere: https://tenor.com/view/lumiichu-headbang-vtube-vrchat-gif-25875264
_3sphere: better but still kinda cursed
joaoluz19: https://x.com/scaling01/status/1904514274841469273
hikukomoru: Wrong
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/maid-robot-anime-animatronic-gif-25435633
user.not.using: https://x.com/roramora0/status/1904583408237371575
drewsni: obv fake lol
joaoluz19: Trust me bro
spicy.lemonade: metaverse wwdc
joaoluz19: Saw it on twitter lol
_3sphere: anime girls were meant to stay virtual
_3sphere: uncanny valley indeed
zonchao: https://x.com/markgurman/status/1904579710928945213? 💀💀💀💀💀
hey1_1hey: Thought so, personality is raw asf
trent_k: Tf
hikukomoru: I would give you food poisoning
hey1_1hey: I wouldn't eat Komoru if you paid me, granted I am not a canabal but still
hikukomoru: Stop reacting with skull emoji
Why yall hating on my dolls
ailoveyoom: Is it Komoru?
st.sioux: what the fuck
hey1_1hey: "cute"
hey1_1hey: I am back with my autism food
hikukomoru: It's a cute doll
trent_k: Like looking at a corpse
trent_k: Uncanny valley type shit
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anathemaofmankind: Bro
anathemaofmankind: Hm
spicy.lemonade: They loved to feel superior over others not having art skills
mihrcelium: There are *so many* creatives who have shifted into gen art or use it in their work. The people whining on reddit are often amateurs or individuals who aren't actively involved in the profession as a career but a hobby.
spicy.lemonade: Now ghibli wont take a year to make a 1 second frame
spicy.lemonade: They should be happy we have ai
spicy.lemonade: The longer it took to make the better
spicy.lemonade: Tf is that arguement
spicy.lemonade: “Ghibli away took 1 year for a 2 second frame while Ai only takes 4 seconds to make it. This is slop”
mihrcelium: Then they will reveal themselves as individuals not deeply immersed in and enmeshed with the art/creative industry.
https://ivonatau.com/
https://sarahridgley.com/
https://www.melissawiederrecht.com/work
Kaoru Tanaka
https://marcelosoriarodriguez.org/?ref=iillucid.com#artDetail
Or, idk, legit any number of generative artists on Sotheby's: https://www.sothebys.com/en/departments/digital-art
ldj: yea its unfortunate for the pro-AI art folks
I personally know Pro-AI art folks that are scared to talk about their true feelings of AI to their normal art friends, because they're afraid of being outcast basically if they reveal they have a pro-AI stance on things basically
.histic: i see this argument a lot.
that there's still a good amount of artists aren't actually anti-AI. but then i come across massive reddit threads and twitter posts with tens or even hundreds of thousands of likes, all clearly against AI. it may be true there's a small population that isn't, but the majority seems so. overtime, i can only see this group of people gaining more disillusionment & becoming anti-AI.
anathemaofmankind: Their cope levels will go to the stratosphere when AGI becomes a thing
anathemaofmankind: People will disagree and say those aren't "artists"
anathemaofmankind: Which ones
mihrcelium: I also think it's important not to frame this as "artists are against AI", because there are *plenty* of creatives who have embraced generative art and utilize it in their craft.
mihrcelium: The real issue here is insecurity, mostly due to capitalism.
.histic: nor other professions.
.histic: yup, and even people who aren't artists are getting brainwashed by this kind of nonsense cope from the artists.
Chess Grandmaster & Programmers don't seem to have the same sentiment.
anathemaofmankind: The criticism has devolved from "it can't even get fingers right" to "this took no effort even if it's amazing so it sucks"
.histic: it's pretty sad when someone's response to something undeniably better than them is to dismiss it as bad and soulless. it's the biggest cope of all time.
spicy.lemonade: only humans should be solving math olympiad problems
spicy.lemonade: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
spicy.lemonade: AI math is souless
anathemaofmankind: Luddites are so short sighted it's crazy.
Instead of seeing the bigger picture or identifying that the current economic system is the problem, they go out and harass people who use AI tools and use arbitrary critiques like it's "Soulless".
They stoke the flames of my misanthropy
brain4brain:
brain4brain: But the AGI is all-loving, it shall bring peace to all
brain4brain: I hope they lose their job, and I hope they temporarily go homeless
brain4brain: Arabic Sam Altman is in the lab somewhere in the Middle East
mihrcelium: I don't think Nadoora has said anything since December on this server.
anathemaofmankind: Hopefully they all lose their jobs and go homeless
mihrcelium: Unrelatedly, where's <@1149403958973050910>?
brain4brain:
brain4brain: These artist are annoying
brain4brain: “Hey look, I wasted thousands of hours of my life in this stupid pixel you all will look at for only a few seconds!”
brain4brain: Plot twist: it’s AI
spicy.lemonade: it did
okbut: I've been thinking of how long it used to take for an image to load when internet ran on Dial-up
brain4brain: AI could do it in a few minutes to the same level of quality
spicy.lemonade: cause he had to trace the car
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futurist_wizard: James Sunderland
playstation.6: that james!
futurist_wizard:
hey1_1hey: I hope you know that every time I see you message you do not just ruin my day but my entire week
hikukomoru:
.wolfnacht: i wanna see what 4o might come with
drewsni: We’re winning son
zoermena: Yes
.wolfnacht: can someone make this realistic ?
zoermena: I love this server
hey1_1hey: Naturally, what do you expect to happen in the <#1136230110891081821>
sarik0497: I see the shitposting is still happening
zoermena: Sadly
.wolfnacht: Ughhh! it doesn't get the cat dimensions right!
hikukomoru: She (me) looks hot though
hey1_1hey: Standards must be low
futurist_wizard: Its far from it
hikukomoru: Woah mama I'm a real baddie
hey1_1hey: That is perfect english
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/funny-team-hahaha-gif-18072160
zoermena: <@834891518836736010>
futurist_wizard: LEARN ENGLISH
futurist_wizard: Honestly bruv what are you on about
hey1_1hey: I told you Komoru was on their last leg
futurist_wizard: 36 year old
futurist_wizard: I do good enough
a1c4p0ne: Accurate?
a1c4p0ne:
hey1_1hey: I also have bad news for you Futureist hill. People don't enough about femboys
hey1_1hey: 💀
drewsni: ur ugly
drewsni: i have bad news for u <@1004153620025065482>
hey1_1hey: We were just talking about that
hey1_1hey: Speak of the devill lmao
futurist_wizard: And it made me ugly
futurist_wizard: Wow tf i sent the Ghibli version and asked it to turn it realistic again
zoermena: Let me finish this clash match
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/shino-wag-tail-cute-anime-gif-8547576549624904158
zoermena: Omg I love it
.wolfnacht: someone ghiblify this
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wellmeaningalien: preddy cool
wellmeaningalien: well the fact that the predictions were that pre training scaling was tapering off yet they're still finding new was to improve base models
drewsni: HOW DO YOU GET A PALESTINE PROTEST IN A PRIVATE EVENT
drewsni: LMAOOOOOOOOO
futurist_wizard:
wellmeaningalien: cant wait to see it vs arc agi
wellmeaningalien: these o models are popping up like every 3 months now
literallyvarane: I feel like you’re just interpreting it in bad faith tbh. It makes sense lol.
wellmeaningalien: what the sigma
wellmeaningalien: o4 mini 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭
wellmeaningalien: https://x.com/sama/status/1908167621624856998?t=Hc6q1lcF75PvNra3th99EA
spicy.lemonade: and specific coding
spicy.lemonade: only at maths
spicy.lemonade: nope
spicy.lemonade: is o3 mini high as good as o1 base?
ldj: Better in some things, worse in others.
zoermena: Do you think o4 mini will be was good as o3 base?
drewsni: >opens stream
>suleyman talking
>uninstall windows
ldj: <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
ldj: Now you understand how nonsensical your message was
spicy.lemonade: its gonna be ass
bob082957: Live
bob082957: https://www.youtube.com/live/v5THCzTNPNk?si=mp9OGSPf_7dHTt04
ldj: Even without that part, Sama never said “Harder than”
He said “Better than”
Big difference
Edit: nvm, he did technically say “harder than” but in a different part of the message.
But in terms of the location with the typo, he only said “better than” there.
literallyvarane: What?
ldj: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
ldj: <@704566357743632404> is literally using this argument:
“the term months could mean something more than 24 months away, therefore GPT-5 is not coming for atleast 2 years”
literallyvarane: Which is accurate. That’s a typo from him
literallyvarane: It’s probably autocorrecting ‘though’
spicy.lemonade: likeley before fall
spicy.lemonade: lol
darkstar0818: then 5 months from now they call it gpt6
spicy.lemonade: it droped 2 weeks aftet his no?
darkstar0818: ya this is silly. 3 months from now sam could say its still 2 months away and it still be a few months.
ldj: Lol hallucination, it’s misquoting. He didn’t say “harder than we thought” he said “**better than we thought**”
literallyvarane: <@312370916820779040> unironically using this argument lololololoool
spicy.lemonade: if they did drop may it would have been genuinely surprising
spicy.lemonade: no one herre seriously thought that
spicy.lemonade: gpt 5 may is realy early
spicy.lemonade: mater of perspective
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hikukomoru: I thought they were super advanced in like robotics and stuff but apparently they don't have anything AI related
futurist_wizard: Would spain get anything for having Puerto Rico
hikukomoru: It's crazy Japan doesn't have any SOTA model
alejandrozarzuelo: Feels weird how absent they are
alejandrozarzuelo: Has Japan ever gotten in the top 10 of the arena btw?
alejandrozarzuelo: Who knows
alejandrozarzuelo: Maybe it will go up thanks to Trump
alejandrozarzuelo: Unfortunately reintegracionismo only polls around 10% in PR
alejandrozarzuelo: Unironically Puerto Rico should become a part of Spain
We would treat them much better than the Americans do, sovereignty, autonomy and no second class citizen status
The UN representative of Puerto Rico is a reintegracionista lmao
hikukomoru: They are the heirs of the Portuguese Empire
It's only natural for them to lead the new world
futurist_wizard: But they are scary
futurist_wizard: I am only joking about them being demonic
futurist_wizard: I literally find them uncanny
alejandrozarzuelo: BTW /j just in case
futurist_wizard: Drag shows are demonic and scary
alejandrozarzuelo: OG fashionista
alejandrozarzuelo: Have you looked at his hair? His flare? His campness? He was wearing purple
futurist_wizard: No sweetie 💅
alejandrozarzuelo: Tradcath? No sweetheart we are progcath in this house
Drag shows are best when christ participates
futurist_wizard: I only know nsfw things about brazil
alejandrozarzuelo: Because of course it is
alejandrozarzuelo: It's called Rio
alejandrozarzuelo: They have an open source SOTA AI now
futurist_wizard: Come to brazil and find out
hikukomoru: You changed so much in only a few days
hikukomoru: Omg Alejandro is a tradcath spanish imperialist now
technocake.: can someone explain to me how brazil is even slightly relevant in tech?
alejandrozarzuelo: GLORIA A DIOS Y AL IMPERIO ESPAÑOL
zoermena: <a:xddddd:721795946135945279>
alejandrozarzuelo: I mean, I'm from a different Spanish Province, but close
alejandrozarzuelo: I am tempted to do a chart about the countries that have been in the SOTA AI
hikukomoru: He's from Peru
hikukomoru: <@465177408073498634> <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm a yuro
alejandrozarzuelo: Nope
alejandrozarzuelo: But my point is
Noone, literally noone in the 80s would have believed you that the soviet union/Russia and specially JAPAN would not even participate in the race but Brazil would
futurist_wizard: I would like the united states of Europe
jonvi_1: are you American?
alejandrozarzuelo: The EU is basically a country now
futurist_wizard: These are rough times
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st.sioux: I think if my family knew I was not religious they would disown me
zoermena: I grew up with a religious family that didn’t practice what they preached, made me distance from it.
.wolfnacht: are you in a bad mood today ?
.wolfnacht: Yes
.wolfnacht: i believe that religions are still the most effective way to control the masses. Back when they didn't had media. Religion was the media.
fractalcomputer: Your opinion has been taken into account and promptly dismissed.
alejandrozarzuelo: no, the reason why i am acussing you is because the conversation came from nowhere and is not related to the topic of the singularity
if you chose to ask that question in a cosmovision sense related to the technological advances we see, well it would be another matter
fractalcomputer: Which I find bizarre, since these are very innocent and amiable questions and I can't honestly see a reason why Alejandro would take issue with it.
fractalcomputer: Alejandro is accusing me of hypocrisy for asking after the philosophical opinions of people here on theism.
trent_k: Lige after death, the nature of good and evil, how a god would act and how we'd like it to act, etc, it's a lot of repurposed religious questions in here all the time
trent_k: I think the singularity takes the place of a lot of things people here would otherwise believe religiously and so no
fractalcomputer: <@1068159407671754824>, am I being hypocritical?
alejandrozarzuelo: no place is perfect
alejandrozarzuelo: thats simply an opinion of mine
alejandrozarzuelo: I do like the server, saying that you are a hypocrite dosnt change that fact
fractalcomputer: You can kindly leave the server if this server is not up to your standards.
trent_k: The singularity is an idea that has a lot of religious themes
alejandrozarzuelo: because discussing religion is not something that a general channel on a singularity server is concerned about
how interesting the conversation is is debatable, particularly with your interactions, but thats less of an issue when its on the channels that are not dedicated to talking about the singularity
trent_k: Well it's a pretty big part of how you see the world, right? It makes sense to be interested in it
fractalcomputer: And in what sense do you think they do not belong *on top of being* unwarranted?
alejandrozarzuelo: I know, i was just giving my opinion
alejandrozarzuelo: in the sense that you are adamant on keeping the general channels focused, which I agree, but you start conversations that dont belong here, on top of being unwarranted
fractalcomputer: In what sense?
alejandrozarzuelo: I am just calling you a hypocrite, thats all
fractalcomputer: I don't recall appointing you as a backseat moderator.
alejandrozarzuelo: no, but you are weirdly inquisitive and you ask when the situation is not appropiate
not to say that, furthermore these questions do not belong to this channel even if they were warranted
fractalcomputer: Are you saying I should not be interested in the way other people think?
alejandrozarzuelo: which is the more annoying when you do it in the general channels
alejandrozarzuelo: you ask people about their religious ideas out of nowhere and out of context
alejandrozarzuelo: just an observation
alejandrozarzuelo: <@749514473303179358> you seem weirdly interested in people's religion
_3sphere: True
fractalcomputer: Yes, but you're doing it an impromptu manner.
_3sphere: I didn't mean it like general relativity being *the* definitive philosophical explanation, just that you generally can deconstruct "time" a lot
fractalcomputer: I mean, it's always very dangerous to draw philosophical or physical statements from mathematical heuristics.
fractalcomputer: Okay?
_3sphere: Manifold
fractalcomputer: I'm not sure how you've drawn that conclusion from the mathematical interpretation of the universe as a hypercone in a very specific setting in relativistic physics.
_3sphere: My point was that spacetime is a specific way you can visualize the concept of "there *is* no before"
_3sphere: I see it as a kind of model similar to the other mental ones we have
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zoermena: KEEP AT IT COOL
maintcrew: stop taking tablets caffeine is meant to be enjoyed NERD
wellmeaningalien: damn bro ur gonna get like a heart attack with that
hey1_1hey: Is there an addy dealer in wales 👉 👈
futurist_wizard: Yeah I would've converted to femboyism at that height, im a foot taller than you
.wolfnacht: Now i want to start again, maybe it'll fix my worse adhd
wellmeaningalien: never ever
wellmeaningalien: nope
wellmeaningalien: maybe get strattera + a non stimulant
hey1_1hey: Talk about it, I take these 200mg caffine tablets when I need to work or I will litterly just start thinking about the most random shit when working to the point I cant concentrate
maintcrew: u never drank in ur life?!?
wellmeaningalien: soon man but tbh im more thinking strattera and shit
zoermena: 5'4
maintcrew: hop on the addis chat
hikukomoru: Brother look around
There's nothing more embarassing you can say
futurist_wizard: How tall are you
wellmeaningalien: im definitely not strong minded im straight edge but thats because ive never picked up a bottle of alcohol yet
.wolfnacht: i used to smoke marlboro reds. like 7-8 a day until i stopped 2 months ago
zoermena: Not worth it, I've already taken the role of femboy.
futurist_wizard: But it does work
wellmeaningalien: yeeah and also i need adhd meds that work SO FUCKING BAD!!!
oooooooooog: just get a spine extension
maintcrew: heroin true and real but i havent met a singular strong minded person thats addicted to alcohol
futurist_wizard: It'd be embarrassing to even say
wellmeaningalien: damn alright thats good
wellmeaningalien: need cognitive behavioral therapy so hard tho
futurist_wizard: Oh yeah height its a wrap
hey1_1hey: Oh thats complete bull shit. I never felt anxiety what so ever
wellmeaningalien: thats literally what psychotherapy is supposed to do but public psychiatry is expensive and private psychologists are fucking expensive
hey1_1hey: Knowing me I would get addicted after taking one. I am a lil bitch to stimulants
hikukomoru: ?
zoermena: I haven't looked into the specifics but the only thing that I know is impossible to change is height which as many of you know is a non issue.
oooooooooog: if ur actually a neet just get addicted to benadryl that way you're more motivated to get a job
a1c4p0ne: lol
maintcrew: u just want a brain recalibration😭
futurist_wizard: I've only known 1 strategy that have used myself for improving looks, it sounds so fucking retarded but i swear it works
wellmeaningalien: bro ur editing the image too much ur giving gemini a seizure
st.sioux: try getting addicted to heroin or alcohol and quitting
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: I am just being slandered at this point 😭
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zonchao: https://x.com/Rothmus/status/1913020501519192574?
trojan09205: <@1316552597829586955> have you seen syndecoche NY
zonchao: yea it has always been shady
trojan09205: I saw it for the first time. Was surprised to see rami malek in there. Joaquin is just such a good actor. And PSH is ridiculously good
hikukomoru: Ranaldo!!!
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/cristiano-ronaldo-ronaldo-ronaldo-siuuu-ronaldo-the-goat-sewy-gif-17616218981871012597
st.sioux: i used to watch that movie a lot idk why i found it comforting
trojan09205: Its called “The Master” with joaquin phoenix and philip seymour hoffman
trojan09205: I just saw a fantastic movie. Like fucking beast mode good
trojan09205: Its a pretty reasonable take. I am happy im as far away from the Hollywood casting world as possible lol cause those decisions are pretty trash usually
a1c4p0ne: More sui
futurist_wizard: Ronaldos retired, no more sui
hikukomoru: You can look like that now
Grow out your hair and buy a suit
Done
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864
futurist_wizard: When i build a memory of a character i like for it to remain the same aesthetic
trojan09205: Alan Rickman was such a good actor as snape. Character arc was epic
trojan09205: Thank you brother ❤️
futurist_wizard: I do not like recasts
zoermena: Also I hope things work out <@379982824591065108>
trojan09205: I saw some reddit post saying they cast a black guy as snape in some new series. I just found the comments hilarious
hikukomoru: So you want to look like snape then I see
zoermena: I dont know to be honest
himekokatagiri: they never look right lol
zoermena: Always
himekokatagiri: welcome back snape
hikukomoru: 4o right?
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/tati-linda-gif-20724572
hikukomoru: Looks like an old man
trojan09205: Snape?
hikukomoru: Oh god
trojan09205: The JLO movie
trojan09205: Also the movie anaconda scared the shit out of me
futurist_wizard: I have vague memories of it because the ride traumatized me
st.sioux: shit was scary af
trojan09205: Jaws made me scared of the ocean kind of til today lol
st.sioux: i cried
zoermena: I tried
futurist_wizard: When i was a little kid i was one of the last people to go on the jaws ride
trojan09205: Half the people love it the other half are like WTF did i just get on
trojan09205: Lol this reminds me of this king kong ride at universal
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hikukomoru: "brian" 🥀
alejandrozarzuelo: yes
archon.e: direct stream of information to your brian. would boost my IQ by 20 points
hikukomoru: Are you talking about Brasil
alejandrozarzuelo: that is all
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
alejandrozarzuelo: btw, i am very familiar with demography, so i know quite a bit about that since i read a lot of papers and research about it
archon.e: I really wish we can just know things without googling
zonchao: they invaded us /s (maybe 👀 )
fractalcomputer: God forbid men *know* things in this day and age where information is *freely* available *on demand* **at all times**.
fractalcomputer: That is called general acculturation.
archon.e: let people be people
alejandrozarzuelo: im not autistic
archon.e: please no name calling
hikukomoru: It's the autism
alejandrozarzuelo: lol
alejandrozarzuelo: how can you "lose" 10 million people
archon.e: Yeah, here they are delaying census due to stupid political reasons
zonchao: I think <@688807313015963693> and <@749514473303179358> know the most random shit about everything
alejandrozarzuelo: brazil had 10 MILLION less people than they expected
fuhulootogan: they know best
fuhulootogan: obviously the elites will provide for us!!
alejandrozarzuelo: as I said, UN estimations are always very on the higher side and in the case of india there has not been a census since 2011, the number is likely significantly smaller
simply because a lot of people were never born
fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/perfection-perfect-michael-fassbender-magneto-x-men-first-class-gif-2260686001358167676
archon.e: ffs
archon.e: thats liek the population of an entire country
zonchao: it will be the billionaires + govt that will give us UBI, unless they fumble hard, but with all the tech leadership around the govt, I doubt it.
archon.e: now we are 50 million ahead
archon.e: 2 years ago india overtook china
hikukomoru: Stop thinking about sex you horndog
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, the indian population depends on what assumptions you make on fertility rates
the UN always overestimates population and fertility rates
last year brazil realized that since the last census 10 years ago there were 10m less people than they projected they would have
archon.e:
inferno0879: giving everyone in the world ubi might create mega inflation but idk normal laws of economics might not apply
ailoveyoom: Power bottom?
ailoveyoom: What does this mean
zonchao: thats a lot of people, cooked.
fuhulootogan: top down?
st.sioux: its actually 1.443
zonchao: wtf
archon.e: It’s crazy
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spicy.lemonade:
oooooooooog: is the second one the new one?
oooooooooog: ohhh
oooooooooog: it sucks?!?!?
zonchao: <@937125337748348999> https://x.com/Big_Picture_89/status/1905337181096607863? 💀
zonchao: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
spicy.lemonade: https://fxtwitter.com/mrjonfinger/status/1905272058646299040
wellmeaningalien: using gemini 2.5 pro rn its amazesauce
wellmeaningalien: i forgot this image was pre 4o image gen and i was gonna say nice generation
technocake.: thats pretty spooky
technocake.: tried 3 times on this last prompt, blocked
technocake.:
.histic: https://x.com/ldjconfirmed/status/1905452990271533452
777agical: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
777agical:
.histic: <@449241957810569228> you'll like this https://x.com/elder_plinius/status/1905450296286884176
.histic: Area 51
zoermena: Look for diets/recipes tailored to you and your goals
st.sioux: its like how much energy ai uses compared to humans in a similar task, like 1 image genrated vs 1 drawing made by some furry
technocake.: does anyone know where he works?
.histic: i've no clue what that means tbh, but word-for-word?
zoermena: It’s been a heavy week in AI
st.sioux: Comparative energy analysis of AI-generated output vs. traditional human labor and industry alternatives
.histic: probably
hikukomoru: 🥀
technocake.: busy with work, life?
hikukomoru: I think I scared him
zoermena: At this point there’s not a lot of use case for pro beyond more deep research
.histic: i wonder what happend to lisan.
he barely talks here.
technocake.: some on here are shelling out 200 a month for pro
hikukomoru: I'm not a paypig so no
.histic: do you've 4o img access?
hikukomoru:
.histic: i'm bored af, i just want to use my 10 deep research uses for random stuff
memlaswaif: I have only met like 3 chinese dude online all of them speak broken english
st.sioux: for what? like an app or something?
joaoluz19: It's over
technocake.: but there are enough chinese people that there are loads who do
hikukomoru: a small minorty
.histic: <@1316552597829586955> give me an idea to use deep research 4
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spicy.lemonade: depends if they drop
_3sphere: Also, a crude head transplant has already been done on animals, it... worked a bit?
a1c4p0ne: Will 2.5 remain king after this week?
_3sphere: But the anti-aging needed to keep the brain going is also helpful for the rest of the body
spicy.lemonade: im sure the cartel has tested this
_3sphere: yeah
spicy.lemonade: for brainvat to work we need first successful procedure of keeping a human alive with brain alone
_3sphere: Then moved to whatever is used to do black hole-powered bases
st.sioux: until someone makes malware for your brain and makes you experience 1 million years of suffering in 10 milliseconds
_3sphere: This should be buried deep in a planet in a very stable orbit and low chance of strong impacts
spicy.lemonade: 60 years?
_3sphere: No, you'd die in an accident with the timelines we're dealing with here
spicy.lemonade: everything else robot
spicy.lemonade: brain vat around very good protection skin. carbon fiber or something lol
_3sphere: It'd be like legacy software but 1000x worse, but ASI should be able to handle it
_3sphere: lots of bespoke custom viruses and nanobots to keep it running
spicy.lemonade: true
spicy.lemonade: hmm
_3sphere: A brain in a vat could probably work indefinitely too tbf
spicy.lemonade: everyone will walk around with a fusion powerd heart
dean_martin: I want a lifespan to rival the Roman Empire
ailoveyoom: The key to surviving unknowable eldritch horrors is to thirst after them
spicy.lemonade: yeah
_3sphere: Computers won't work without a power supply
spicy.lemonade: we can atmost extend our lives until biology cant take it
dean_martin: This really thermals my dynamic
spicy.lemonade: if its not
spicy.lemonade: i think it possible for us to live forever if we figure out that consciousness is some type of data we can transfer
fractalcomputer: I need whiskey.
darkstar0818: thermodynamics, isn't that caused by global warming?
_3sphere: Entropy-chan scrambling poor Mich's atoms
abundantliving_: I was watching Black mirror S07E01 , and it triggered panick
ailoveyoom: Entropy is the final boss and I'm not sure I want to defeat her 🥵 🛐
dean_martin: I would like to live like abnormally long like hundreds or thousands of years, but I, like every person does here and elsewhere, knows that is the standard to die at like 80ish, these are just things you realize at 14
fractalcomputer: You think these people understand anything about cosmological physics? Let alone thermodynamics?
zoermena: Do you believe the leaks of the information on regards of the drops coming this week, any thoughts? 🎤
_3sphere: Not even in 1e100 years when there are no more usable energy sources?
ldj: Agents are already here, you have Claude computer use, and OpenAI browser use etc.
It's just a matter of the models getting better from here, more training compute scale, alongside continued progress of algorithmic efficiency improvements.
realelonmuskx: fuck humans. they need to go extinct. dumb ass irrational monkeys in floating rock clueless af. this has no cure. dumb ass social constructs im sick. money, borders, religion, laws, marraige, work, success/failure, goverments, calendars, age milestones, needs, biological needs, futility, regret, pressure, hunger, death, suffering, peer pressure, names, surnames, language all bs to distract yourself from the fact that you are an useless sentient meatbag ina adrift floating rock. everyone is winfging it. f this shit. reproduction is a scam. f humans
darkstar0818: https://tenor.com/PptP.gif
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brain4brain: Need more data
.0xunkn0wn:
.0xunkn0wn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pFFh7v0ymA
.0xunkn0wn: and blackwell ultra
.0xunkn0wn: ya seen the new rubin chips?
.0xunkn0wn: guys
.0xunkn0wn: oh shit
rayanquitplayin: 1st
.wolfnacht: Okay, the user.....
But wait....
Hmm,....
Alternatively.....
Or......
In conclusion....
Wait there's more,.....
Finally,.....
brain4brain: I love pantheon so much
rayanquitplayin: Search just searches the internet and reasoning shows it’s thinking right?
brain4brain: If it’s hard topic enable search and reasoning, this one seems easy probably doesn’t need to
brain4brain: Help me choose the best one
rayanquitplayin: I like to get my information from different sources, but you right, you can ask anything to ChatGPT
rayanquitplayin: Bet
brain4brain: Also watch 3blue1brown, very good video on LLM
brain4brain: What should have been done since the beginning
rayanquitplayin: I’ll ask ChatGPT
brain4brain: Kind of, probably
rayanquitplayin: Are LLM vectors that same vectors studied in pre-calculus?
brain4brain: LLM vector is just a bunch of number values that is large enough to be emergent to a sort of semantic understanding, I think
brain4brain: Depends on what vector you’re talking about
brain4brain: Also do you guys think LLM generate new content or just regurgitate stuff
rayanquitplayin: I didn’t realize vectors take up physical space
_3sphere: Where they had it just go ............ and some thinking went on in the residual stream while generating the dots
_3sphere: "Inefficient" token use can actually be good for thinking, as shown by the thinking dots paper
alejandrozarzuelo: cats and dogs dont dream of LEV
brain4brain: Another is that sometimes Gemini generated something in Indian right before coming back to English token and I don’t know why
brain4brain: Absolutely
brain4brain: I accidentally lucid dreamed many time, usually from fearing too much then realizing it was a dream and tried to escape by swimming in the air upward, but another time I accidentally did it, this time I use it wisely for something 😈
Only lasted a few seconds though, when prophetic headset comes out and proven definitely buying
rayanquitplayin: Cats have 9 lives
ailoveyoom: As a dog, can confirm 🐕🦺
_3sphere: I will add that cats are definitely aware of their bodies too 🐱
frittata: Anyway how does this relate to AI
frittata: I will take no questions at this time
frittata: Cats and dogs are definitely self aware on a low level <:bruh:1303825143344267305> I can only imagine those of you that think otherwise have never had one, or have never paid attention to it if you have
rayanquitplayin: What does this mean? Humans do this with their brain?
alejandrozarzuelo: very similar in the sense that it couldnt be any other way
st.sioux: imma store some information in his vector
rayanquitplayin: Tbh I think AI thought is inherently better
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rayanquitplayin: A humans ability to reason or an AI’s ability to reason?
fractalcomputer: Huh.
fractalcomputer: As in what? What are you asking me to elaborate?
fractalcomputer: Overall the notion of reasoning as pursued in modern research is incredibly mistaken.
rayanquitplayin: What y’all talkin’ about? I swear y’all are having the most complicated conversation of all-time
fractalcomputer: Well obviously these things are going to work *if* they are going to work; not much to say there.
rayanquitplayin: Visually it’s pretty solid
rayanquitplayin: Coke ran a fully AI created ad
oimrqs: Human-made work structure takes more time than expected to adapt, too much friction
st.sioux: I think that it could be done by now, it's just a matter of someone being willing to design and implement the architecture for the software
darkstar0818: All of my positivity on the topic turned into dark amusement when I realized it would be a civilization right out of idiocracy that will usher in the sing.
rayanquitplayin: I didn’t think about marketing being automated by AI but that makes a lot of sense
fractalcomputer: I mean, to give an example, let's consider the birth of Galois theory in the last two centuries or so—I would think that no one would have intuitively expected that the easiest way to prove that there does not exist a radical-based formula for solving polynomials of degree five or higher is to study mathematical formalisations of symmetry.
rayanquitplayin: Yeah for sure
st.sioux: and with 4o native image gen even content creation like informative graphics or simple ads could be automatically generated
st.sioux: I believe marketing (or specially online marketing) is going to get automated pretty soon... if you look at most posts they already sound kind of robotic and play it super safe, social media managers tend to stick to the same tone and structure across the board and thats something AI can emulate really well
fractalcomputer: Most revolutions in pure mathematics have come from finding the right perspective on things; the right abstraction to make thinking about complex structures and objects intuitive. Sure, connections between different areas of mathematics has always been needed; but in that respects models have been performing hitherto extraordinarily poorly if it were only about exposure to data.
rayanquitplayin: Industries where AI is being combined with the historic industry
fractalcomputer: I am trying to be positive here.
rayanquitplayin: Industries like sub-industries of tech, visual art, music, finance
fractalcomputer: And in what sense do you think that is applicable to mathematical research?
darkstar0818: interesting is not the word I would use.
st.sioux: What do you mean adjacent?
rayanquitplayin: Which adjacent industries do you guys think will get an AI boost?
destrucules: Please don't send people unwanted dick pics. Should be common sense. Idk why I gotta spell that out
rayanquitplayin: There are so many opportunities in AI
rayanquitplayin: I think AI has to be met with other industries like software & robotics for example to find new knowledge
fractalcomputer: Mathematics does not rest on "world-knowledge."
st.sioux: in a sense competitive programming is just solving puzzles
st.sioux: i believe the imo benchmarks are comparable to competitive programming, they're good at proving that the model is good at solving stuff that requires algorithmic thinking but not much beyond that
fractalcomputer: IMO problems are all rather narrow in a reasoning sense. They're more like extremely elaborate puzzles with a few common strategies to solve them—only understanding the nature of the problem indicates any sort of talent in mathematical research.
rayanquitplayin: You can get high-level AI intel on anything
rayanquitplayin: But I lowkey like the responses, it keeps everything high-level
rayanquitplayin: Yeah ChatGPT responds like a bot
trent_k: Does anyone at a pre-IMO level have anything meaningful to contribute to the field though? I don't see any issue with just using benchmarks to benchmark
st.sioux: stop talking about penises
trent_k: Anything under 9 inches
fractalcomputer: The one thing I absolutely hate about the recent trends in artificial intelligence is the generic responses of all these models; even within maths, the answer is always the desired one, with no onboard baggage or new, unique insights. Sure, doing IMO problems is interesting—but why should any of that matter if no new knowledge comes out?
rayanquitplayin: 🧠 🧠
trent_k: They're gonna think it's a child penis
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spicy.lemonade: I also need a fake thermometer
spicy.lemonade: But got up throwing up
spicy.lemonade: To feel better
spicy.lemonade: So I took a nap before midterm
spicy.lemonade: And it made me nauseous
spicy.lemonade: Across the past 2 days to keep up with work
spicy.lemonade: I drank too much coffee
spicy.lemonade: Ok here’s the plan
spicy.lemonade: Lmaoo
st.sioux: rip your grandma
spicy.lemonade: Grok
spicy.lemonade: I asked from
precariousworlds.: say it was my fault ill take the fall for u 🫡 🫡 🫡
spicy.lemonade: Hm I need to think of a plan
spicy.lemonade: Say I got food poisoning
spicy.lemonade: Time to lie
spicy.lemonade: No no
futurist_wizard: Its over
spicy.lemonade: HOW TF DID I SET 5 ALARMS AND STILL SLEEP THROUGH ALL
spicy.lemonade: SLEPT THROUGH ALARM
spicy.lemonade: I MISSED A MIDTERM
st.sioux: every time ive asked it something it does some random unrelated thing
st.sioux: am i tripping or does quasar alpha suck turbo ass
.wolfnacht: i think this had to be a limited thing ? maybe selected countries only
.wolfnacht: google's soo unfair
.histic: switch gmails
_cloudost: Nothing ever happens..
_cloudost: Nope
st.sioux: stress
.wolfnacht: <@590577270926868480> got the access ?
.histic: in coding it's balls though.
.histic: interesting...
.histic: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> never trust a verge writer, only the information articles.
wellmeaningalien: yeah he just expects it to be called like that
.histic: wait, rly?
wellmeaningalien: btw apparently the 4.1 name is just something the verge article writer made up
futurist_wizard: There has to be a science to this
futurist_wizard: Why are all ai ceos balding
bob082957: AGI on M3 Ultra 512 GB by Learning Cultural transfer to speak. I don’t understand there exist techniques to learn rl language. I mean put hassabis with m3 ultra in one room and AGI come out
futurist_wizard: The real me
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wolf3404: https://fxtwitter.com/LiquidAI_/status/1915569534238429332
spicy.lemonade: it made trenches
spicy.lemonade: ww1
spicy.lemonade: wtf
spicy.lemonade: gpt 4.1
spicy.lemonade: thats genius
spicy.lemonade: prompt: upsidedown city
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
trent_k: It's a beautiful day outside. The sun is shining and the birds are chirping. Today I'm going to make ao3 users mad
trent_k: How are you all today
trent_k: Ng
trent_k: Ni
trent_k: R
trent_k: Mo
trent_k: D
trent_k: Oo
trent_k: G
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: posted 2020
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: https://web.archive.org/web/20200316032354/https://www.technologyreview.com/s/615189/what-ai-still-cant-do/
spicy.lemonade: goated post from 2022
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
a1c4p0ne: Good at doxxing too
a1c4p0ne: Its insane at finding products and shops
spicy.lemonade: we have those today
spicy.lemonade: that could be a coding agent
spicy.lemonade: that is not agi
aero447: Reality-based, the reality in this schizo's mind.
aero447: 😂
aero447: https://old.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/1k73493/realitybased_futurology/
aero447: Does anyone else love reading /r/Futurology for the lols?
brain4brain: That is AGI
spicy.lemonade: not agi tho
spicy.lemonade: "in 2025, we may see the first AI agents “join the workforce” and materially change the output of companies."
spicy.lemonade: in his january blog he said
spicy.lemonade: strange
spicy.lemonade: i dont recal him saying that
brain4brain: He said AGI 2025 multiple other time, and besides he wasn’t joking
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hey1_1hey: They are comfy alright
fractalcomputer: Femineity is the word. Feminine is the adjective.
hikukomoru: I just wear jeans
hey1_1hey: I wonder if the most femenine person in this server is man or women <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
hikukomoru: He wears skirts and everything
futurist_wizard: Yeah you probably do
hey1_1hey: Bluds british
hey1_1hey: So I think I win
hey1_1hey: Well I have more femenineness than you
zoermena:
hikukomoru: My black guy is the OG one
I win
hey1_1hey: Me neither 🤝
futurist_wizard: Im not black
hey1_1hey: Is that the same for irl?
futurist_wizard: I get the rare pokiblack card
hey1_1hey: This is gonna be news I can already feel it
futurist_wizard: My one is more attractive than the rest of yours
hey1_1hey: This is litterly just the AIs self-portrait
hikukomoru: Why is he everyone
hey1_1hey: Reninds me of that better call saul meme
zoermena: What the heck
zoermena: Ok
hey1_1hey: Except for me of course 💪
hey1_1hey: Everyone is everything but white
hikukomoru: The AI uprising isn't going to be killer robots like terminator
It's going to be that single Black Guy with glasses
drewsni: ok but if it actually looks like me im not posting it
futurist_wizard: What the cunt
zoermena: According to GPT we need a lasik surgery.
hey1_1hey: Thanks chatgpt
hey1_1hey: It knows I am 18 and yet gave me the look of a 25 year old autistic software engineer
zoermena: Still glasses.
.histic: i became an Indian
hey1_1hey: The luddies were right
hey1_1hey: This is litterly the AI uprising
hey1_1hey: Wait
zoermena: Ask chat gpt to make an image of what it thinks you look like now!
hey1_1hey: This guy isn't real
hey1_1hey:
hikukomoru: They're multiplying
hikukomoru: Oh my god
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joaoluz19: I also find it quite nonsensical that many people are desperate to have extraordinary success before the singularity. I see how Jesus said: "My kingdom is not of this world." People get very neurotic about such a poor world.
hikukomoru: He was released from the gulag
hey1_1hey: Oh welcome back from the... "Incident"
hikukomoru: Benevolent dictator ASI mommy 😳
joaoluz19: Samantha is not enough
joaoluz19: Now what these studies have shown and what I have been expecting for some time is that we do indeed need things like FDVR or biological manufacturing.
zoermena: I see.
ailoveyoom: Hope the AI takes over humanity instead 🥺
futurist_wizard: Don't know how we stop malicious actors
joaoluz19: Saying that I wouldn't feel like a loser for having a Samantha. Almost all relationships I know are dysfunctional and there is a lot of room for improvement in that area. I think the appeal to nature suppresses all the blessing that waifus can bring and all this seen from a neurological point of view
zoermena: More useful too
hey1_1hey: My toaster is smarter than some people I know so its already on its way
futurist_wizard: The toaster will be smarter than all of humanity
okbut: Why? It's so much more efficient to overrule the wait times
futurist_wizard: It'll likely be like the internet, just an abundance of intelligence
hey1_1hey: Prob gonna be OS
futurist_wizard: Don't think anyone will control it
hikukomoru: Source?
i_like_over_9000_turtles: I mean they have organ farms for VIPs I am not sure about that...
_3sphere: Maybe they'll see the light and realize that they can easily make utopia for everyone 🥺
hey1_1hey: I gotta accelerate faster then my lord
zoermena: Are you saying it’s the opposite because you’ve been in relationships or that you feel like a loser because you’ve been in one before the singularity?
hikukomoru: China controlling AGI would be a better outcome than Musk and Trump ngl
futurist_wizard: Sexuality is destroyed
futurist_wizard: You get turned into gpus
joaoluz19: I've been in relationships and I know a lot of people who have been and are in relationships, for me it's the opposite.
hey1_1hey: Does everyone turn straight afterwards or smth 😭 ?
okbut: Yeah considering LLMs are focused on improvements in text-based response I wonder if voice should have a totally independent approach
futurist_wizard: One year before singularity
i_like_over_9000_turtles: Is anyone else scared about the direction we are headed? It looks like we have a CCP controlled singularity vs a Nazi controlled singularity on the other. Is there any possible way it doesn't turn out dystopian?
hikukomoru: I love when chat is gay
joaoluz19: I think diminishing returns will also apply to future improvements, but we will see more studies of this type as well. For me, I think this was the first one so far.
okbut: I love Teslur
okbut: Didn't he Tesla with a hard R?
_3sphere: "Today" misleadingly implies it's a noteworthy or unusual thing
futurist_wizard: Chat today
hey1_1hey: Complete lies
zoermena: I also don’t want to get into a relationship for that sake though.
darkstar0818: You do not.
hikukomoru: I make fun of everyone equally
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himekokatagiri: shit I dunno
spacetimetsunami: o4 mini and o3 arent autonomous agents. They’ve met and exceeded expectations in many ways. I am satisfied.
spacetimetsunami: This is a good way to think about it
destrucules: More than that, though, is the paradigm change a property of the model itself, or a property of the economy?
st.sioux: it wont be like flipping a switch
destrucules: What do you envision as the paradigm change "AGI" should bring about?
hikukomoru: Oh uh yeah
Brockman said "AGI is here" during the stream
destrucules: It's been like a day
himekokatagiri: where's the paradigm change
destrucules: Wdym nothing to show for it?
himekokatagiri: the o4 one
himekokatagiri: uh... in that presentation?
hikukomoru: When
himekokatagiri: OpenAI
hikukomoru: Who proclaimed AGI
himekokatagiri: with nothing to show for it
himekokatagiri: why did they proclaim AGI
himekokatagiri: it's looking pretty grim ngl
ailoveyoom: Sleep is All You Need 🗣️
spacetimetsunami: https://arxiv.org/abs/2504.13171
this is fucking crazy and was published like yesterday
st.sioux: those two humble billionaires 🥹
gamerbath: wasn't he supposed to open source grok 2 after releasing grok 3?
wolf3404: https://fxtwitter.com/LiorOnAI/status/1913277094978535707
destrucules: I told y'all 🤣
theaiguy69420_89814: I have no idea
theaiguy69420_89814: You tell me lmao
st.sioux: why dont they
theaiguy69420_89814: Indian devs don't use GitHub lmao
theaiguy69420_89814: Oh, this is really bloody useful. Lots of freelance clients just send me zips of code lol
st.sioux: yea i saw it
zoermena: Im thinking of just getting a very mid but decent tablet to download all brain rot and perhaps malware driven content that can’t be linked to me so that I never get hacked.
gamerbath: you can find it at the bottom of covid.gov, no need for download
sieventer: Trump will hack your PC <:catcry:1187466366006087862>
st.sioux: lol
st.sioux: its made by the gov
st.sioux: zero days wont be caught by virustotal
ailoveyoom: Scan it then lol
ailoveyoom: https://www.virustotal.com/gui/
sieventer: -XD
sieventer: Cult's vibes
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hikukomoru: I was joking boo 😘
trent_k: i cant rectify in my head how the tech is so cool but the people are so god awful lame
clevermoniker: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226> 👍
hey1_1hey: I mean apart from being weird loser virgins
777agical:
.histic:
hey1_1hey: Whats wrong with them
joaoluz19:
hikukomoru: I hate csbros so much it's unreal 💔
hey1_1hey: Well I mean he has a husband/boyfriend (cant remember)
.histic: https://x.com/SebastienBubeck/status/1904596899623313603
wellmeaningalien: bro hes married to a dude
hey1_1hey: I am dying over here
777agical: maybe it's already doing that in the background?
hey1_1hey: Can someon get hitler and stalin to kiss please
jonvi_1: Uh weird joke lol there’s no punchline but ok
hikukomoru: WHAT???? REALLY???
spicy.lemonade: yeah
spicy.lemonade: the diagrams and figures it could draw
hikukomoru: Good taste brother, it's one of my favourite animse 👍
777agical: some leaks pointed to that right?
hey1_1hey: NO SHOT REALLY?!?!?! Yes obv hes gay
trent_k: i hate computer ppl. i am computer ppl tho so its hard
spicy.lemonade: broooo
spicy.lemonade: image, math image math
777agical: i still dont have access <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
jonvi_1: Lol
spicy.lemonade: imagine reasoning with this
jonvi_1: He’s gay
hey1_1hey: His tweet that is, twas a joke
joaoluz19: We are so back it's a joke
wellmeaningalien: coming soon
jonvi_1: ???
hikukomoru: I won't be satisfied until every single person in r/csmajors is out of a job
joaoluz19:
hey1_1hey: Hes so based
wellmeaningalien: sorry
wellmeaningalien: im from openai but i didnt tell yall
drewsni: WTF I LOVE SAMA AGAIN
hey1_1hey: Brother forgot its public
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wellmeaningalien: i dont think copilot will be any more useful than chatgpt <@88481490228228096> ur right
wellmeaningalien: im on the stream rn
spicy.lemonade: qwen dropping monday
wellmeaningalien: my brain went like 2nd quarter of 2025 😭
wellmeaningalien: wait
wellmeaningalien: 😼
wellmeaningalien: we're somewhat getting closer
wellmeaningalien: oh shit
ldj: 2nd half starts in July
ldj: No we’re not <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
wellmeaningalien: but lemme guess its like barely doing shit
wellmeaningalien: if they can get it working in a coherent easy to use package thats the biggest achievement tho
wellmeaningalien: lol
drewsni: literally
drewsni: theyre repackaging oai features dont bother
wellmeaningalien: damn i gotta hop on this stream
wellmeaningalien: wym
wellmeaningalien: we're in the 2nd half of 2025 😼
drewsni: it just gave hints
drewsni: i dont think so
wellmeaningalien: like a computer using agent?
drewsni: BRO its using photoshop to adjust the saturation instead of a 10 line python script wtf
wellmeaningalien: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJFGDSkfGJI
ldj: My bad didn’t see the bottom part of the tweet earlier some how, yea I think it’s fair to say this is a delay by atleast a month or 2 compared to what they might’ve been trying to aim for originally.
I think it’s still releasing in 2nd half of 2025 most likely though.
spicy.lemonade: damn
spicy.lemonade: lol i remmber cleverbot
wellmeaningalien: cleverbot videos anyone lol
wellmeaningalien: i remember when IBM watson being able to answer trivia questions were impressive
spicy.lemonade: "omg it remembers my name"
spicy.lemonade: remember before 2022 where a computer answering your questions and talking to you dynamicaly was impressive. like it wasnt preprogrammed answers. even then preprogrammed answers we seen as impressive
wellmeaningalien: im sure they were using a shit model for google search. gemini 2.5 pro sweeps the floor
drewsni: but still
drewsni: obv not the same product as google search
drewsni: google search grounding is really good now tbf
wellmeaningalien: yeah lol
wellmeaningalien: i mean if it's not a hallucinating mess like google search then i'm sure it'll be hella useful for a lot of people
spicy.lemonade: man
drewsni: the point is to not ask "insane" questions for every deep research, but instead to use it for every question
drewsni: but i guess youre right
wellmeaningalien: i mean this is for the everyday user
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hey1_1hey: Who knows
hey1_1hey: Or maybe its just automatic and it doesn't have time to think
hey1_1hey: ChatGPT must be on its toes constantly
hey1_1hey: I'll be able to generate really mean things about Komoru in 7 hours and they can't do the same back to me because they are silly and don't have it yet 🤌
drewsni: I almost got it this time…
drewsni:
wellmeaningalien: i have native image gen bro
.histic:
hey1_1hey: UK 💪
Crumbiling but has native image gen
.histic: OpenAI said EU people should get it by 2028
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/only-one-there-can-only-be-one-funny-car-mean-cat-cat-attack-gif-12213614
hikukomoru: I don't have native image gen
hey1_1hey: I need to have 2 sets of keyboards with 2 discords open to type all the jokes that come into my head
hey1_1hey: Stole my joke
hey1_1hey: "Yes miss, I have a question. What does the conventianal explosive mean? Hmm... I am not sure I understand can I talk to you after class about it"
ailoveyoom: *Bottom student
hikukomoru: After class tutoring 😳
hey1_1hey: You'd see me there, I'd be her top student
hikukomoru: I would take every single one of that lady's classes
hey1_1hey: I didn't know I could find something so interesting
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: You got a boring part of a video you're making? Just ask 4o to make a infomgraphic with a really hot anime lady in it explaining why it works
hey1_1hey: This would unironcailly boost watch time
fractalcomputer: Nuclear physics should be exciting enough even without some anime-esque lady standing there, doing nothing.
.histic: my bad
fractalcomputer: Keep the fetish posting to a minimum.
.histic:
.histic: using 4o img gen on sora.com is far better.
you get two outputs instead of one.
there doesn't seem to be bad rate limits & it refuses less.
spicy.lemonade:
hey1_1hey: At least some of them do, not sure for everyone
metaldragon01: Yes
hey1_1hey: For no particular reason of course
hey1_1hey: I am so locked in to learning about nucelar fission its crazy
.histic:
hey1_1hey: It made my pfp have big booba when I asked it to imrpove the image <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: I sure do
.histic: claude is down
hikukomoru: Do free users have native image gen already
drewsni: Or any other option really
metaldragon01: They really should let people gift subs tbh
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hikukomoru: <@465177408073498634> <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
sweetievee__33649: thats just the internet not even recently either lmao
drewsni: this was the message from their 30 year old moderator btw
.wolfnacht: imagine "digitally" being tied to a pole and getting burned alive by witchhunters online.
sweetievee__33649: https://tenor.com/view/bornskywalker-dap-me-up-woody-woody-handshake-woody-toy-story-gif-26021440
zonchao: 🤡
drewsni: its probably just my bubble of a city (you know the one), but im not exaggerating when i say its 90% of a group of 20 or so people
hikukomoru: I'm in a few ERP servers and a lot of people there absolutely hate AI images even though they use chatbots all the time
sweetievee__33649: its palpable
sweetievee__33649: 💀 oh the irony
zonchao: https://www.reddit.com/r/formuladank/s/joBoaqeemy this is a repost of the ai post.... there was a lot of fighting in the comments... then another dude asked ai to make a drawing of the ai post 😭 and for a second everyone thought it wasn't ai <:LOL:1187460826572005436> https://www.reddit.com/r/formuladank/s/LrKsnXng8L
drewsni: even have a "hall of fame" for its posts
.wolfnacht: it'll revive again..to that peak. thanks to AI, we'll revive old internet too.
drewsni: funniest part is they love their AI bot
hikukomoru: Omg I love this song
Old Disney was so peak
sweetievee__33649: im saving this send to people lol
hikukomoru:
ailoveyoom: I guess I've sort just of fallen for the whole passionate artists thing, didn't know a decent chunk of them were just lazy bums
drewsni: like i said, bums
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/savages-pocahontas-gif-5458002
sweetievee__33649: we need to kill all ai artists
sweetievee__33649: just a photo of some dude and then you are being told to kill yourself by multiple people
hikukomoru: You posted AI? Literally Hitler
drewsni: me to commision someone to make that image in the literal 60 seconds its relevant?
drewsni: dont know what they expect
drewsni: nope
sweetievee__33649: thats not even that bad 🥀
drewsni: this is what i posted as a joke because the driver didnt win
zonchao: 💀💀
sweetievee__33649: what was even the image
drewsni:
hikukomoru: They told drewsny to kill himself
zonchao: missed it
drewsni: Did you see my screenshot of the nascar discord?
sweetievee__33649: alteast have a cool autistic interest
hikukomoru: Sub for car autists
sweetievee__33649: oh thats worse that i thought
zonchao: formula 1 dank memes
sweetievee__33649: whats that sub reddit about
drewsni: LETS GO
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diogenesfuckdishcord: a baby born in like 2020 will never be smarter than frontier AI models
spicy.lemonade: or younger
spicy.lemonade: imagine beingf 18 during agi
brain4brain: What are your opinion on whether or not do you think google’s co-scientist is truly creative? Or is this in-capable of making something truly new
https://x.com/googleai/status/1892214154372518031?s=61
rayanquitplayin: That’s what I’m sayin, 25 is young
sarik0497: Pff, youngsters complaining about 25 being “old”
spicy.lemonade: thats the rajectory of the asteroid
abundantliving_: why the fuck
a1c4p0ne: quality going down
a1c4p0ne: I guess the people in r/ClaudeAI was right
spicy.lemonade: lmao
spicy.lemonade: your life just started at 25
spicy.lemonade: old??? thats perfect age. id be 23/24
rayanquitplayin: At 25 you still have hella time to do stuff
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/vince-carter-its-over-done-finished-its-finish-gif-17214651
spicy.lemonade: gets it even more wrong
spicy.lemonade:
.wolfnacht: idk, is there a sauce ?
.wolfnacht: i'd be pretty old by 2030....imagine being 25 and getting hands on AGI 😭
brain4brain: Wasn’t the benchmark for that 100% saturated
brain4brain: Is Google AI the same as Google DeepMind
.wolfnacht: i mean the ability to recall the the past events in from the existing context. [the needle in haystack thing]
a1c4p0ne: I know but lets see if it gets it right lol
brain4brain: ChatGPT rate limit is my enemy 😔
spicy.lemonade: it shouldnt need extended thinking😭
rayanquitplayin: What a time to be alive
.wolfnacht: it's all gonna be a utopia fast, past 2030s
brain4brain: Generation length doesn’t really matter with long context window
a1c4p0ne: <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
a1c4p0ne: try it with extended thinking
rayanquitplayin: High school with the existence of AI seems like utopia
.wolfnacht: 2023: ~~beyond 8k~~
2024: ~~beyond 16k~~
2025: beyond 32k tokens the models are still a meme.
clevermoniker: i don't think it is that conclusive yet
brain4brain: I doubt OpenAI will implement it though
brain4brain: Yes
brain4brain: Made from two data point over 10 months
brain4brain: After the METR paper, I would like to propose my own AI Moore’s law, AI capabilities increase by 20x every 10 months <:caught:1285810336682999858>
hikukomoru: Are you talking abt Titans
brain4brain: Didn’t we already have the new architecture that enables long term memory? Better agency and less resilience/ hallucinations can be achieved from scaling up
.wolfnacht: i wish i had LLM's back when i was in high school...i would be a completely different person. It would explain it everything to me, and i won't be needing to found countless yt videos or make sense out of texts in books.
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spicy.lemonade: Call same model for all npcs
spicy.lemonade: Just store one small model in game
ailoveyoom: Curious
ailoveyoom: How?
anathemaofmankind: Wdym. A lot of people online hate AI.
Just look at at the Balatro drama and some posts in gaming subreddits
spicy.lemonade: Should be very feasible
maintcrew: 3b brainlet should be enough for a npc right
ailoveyoom: A local model hosted on each player's computer? Accesibility go brr.
The game company hosts their own model? Their money goes brr
ailoveyoom: Idk how feasible this'd be tho
joaoluz19: Really? didn't know, I'll take a look
joaoluz19: naaah, it's not possible
st.sioux: elder scrolls 6
st.sioux: horizon 6, silent hill f are the only big games i think
anathemaofmankind: I feel like it would get backlash because of luddite presence in the gaming sphere
joaoluz19: There are no announcements for 2026, right?
joaoluz19: Sad not to see AAA games with LLM's/voice it would be so epic
st.sioux: with tts
st.sioux: i want someone to use LLMs for NPCs but everyones a coward
spicy.lemonade: They probably use LLMs rn
st.sioux: gta v was
sarik0497: Hell, even that has AI help making things
anathemaofmankind: So does that mean it can write me a graphic sex scene
sarik0497: Wanna hear a crazy thought? GTA 6 will be the last game Rockstar Games likely make entirely by humans.
anathemaofmankind: "Whatever you ask"
spicy.lemonade: “Gpt 5 will do whatever you ask just short of coming up with new science”
spicy.lemonade: Lines up with what Sam said
spicy.lemonade: Gpt 6 will be the first to do frontier research according to this<:ez:1136267305521774634>
abundantliving_: even applied for invite code , but been days , seems like they give invite codes to only influencers and content creators
abundantliving_: not used , just seen videos and people using it .
zonchao: heard it's mega mid
zonchao: have you used manus?
abundantliving_: thse make a big problem for agents to interact with web
abundantliving_: yes , stupid websites with popups and ads and my god the cookie prompts
abundantliving_: with a good enough agentic framework, we can use test time compute to reason longer to get better results for decision making ,
abundantliving_: with same sonnet 3.5 if Manus people are able to create manus. they must have used some clever way to achive this.
abundantliving_: If with Sonnet 3.5 Manus can achive some 68 or whatever on GAIA benchmark. I feel now models are also needed to be good , but how agentic capabilities are orchestrated. that matters more .
3ds0662: They fail on a lot of visual tests still
3ds0662: Agents won’t move from where they are now if the models multimodal understanding does not increase
anathemaofmankind: I guess I'm into anthropomorphic animals now
abundantliving_: lol
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anathemaofmankind: It's going to be great
anathemaofmankind: So far it's looking like the future's gonna slowly cascade into misery
anathemaofmankind: We either go extinct or in dystopian hellscape
aero447: Same with combat sports bid farewell to UFC, boxing etc because you're waifu can crush Ali and Tyson together with an arm behind their backs.
aero447: They are an OOM beyond humans, if we have catgirls it's OVER for the Olympics.
aero447: Human visual reaction time: ~200-250 milliseconds (ms).
Human auditory reaction time: ~150-170 ms.
Human touch reaction time: ~130-150 ms.
Cat reaction time: Estimates vary, but generally considered much faster, maybe in the 20-70 ms range.
aero447: Has anyone concluded that their beloved catgirl waifu completely wrecks human competitive sports?
aero447: Guys.
.wolfnacht: I need R1 (new) or R2
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/mao-deepseek-hop-on-deepseek-smoking-china-gif-6881475073174756191
.histic: https://x.com/btibor91/status/1914941343081906372
drewsni: I mean yeah that’s a dumb statement to make since even flash can do that well, pro 2.5 will routinely spit out 2500 loc scrips and refactor, plus others at the same time
spicy.lemonade: it always ages badly
spicy.lemonade: why do people keep making these statement
juweigege_54993: Or ASI.
juweigege_54993: Xi Jinping.
joaoluz19: The machine God
spicy.lemonade: whoever controls ASI
juweigege_54993: I will return to Base reality after a few years in FDVR, so I should be the Queen.
spicy.lemonade: ceo or US president of the time
spicy.lemonade: probably some ceo
spicy.lemonade: realistically
spicy.lemonade: me
joaoluz19: I like the idea of completely letting go of fear, stress and anxiety rather than what the external world would be like.
.histic: i think i'll try to blow up a planet just for fun
.histic: who will be the ruler of base reality?
juweigege_54993: It shouldn't be. It should be free and let people be in the matrix forever.
spicy.lemonade: soon itl be millions
himekokatagiri: alright need some sleep chat went way too speculative
himekokatagiri: she's amazing
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/suzuha-best-girl-eco-anime-steins-gif-26014842
juweigege_54993: I hope it's real.
spicy.lemonade: thats what US is built off of
himekokatagiri: look suzuha is awesome
spicy.lemonade: self determination
himekokatagiri: I'm not that obsessed
spicy.lemonade: freedom to choose your own path
spicy.lemonade: liberal part means
.histic: yeah, it will predict or know your obsession with suzuha.
it will be fed ur slop.
it's over.
spicy.lemonade: liberal democracy is broad term
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himekokatagiri: isn't that what usually happens
ebbenflos_25799: it seems so, the mods really are being lazy huh
himekokatagiri: I'm surprised reddit power mods didn't take the sub over
zonchao: mods dgaf<:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: the sub is a lost cause, don't bother
himekokatagiri: I don't like backseat moderating
ebbenflos_25799: Has to be, all my other ones get shadowbanned
himekokatagiri: 🤷♂️ is your account new
ebbenflos_25799: Fractal cant see my messages
ebbenflos_25799: i tried messaging the mods to take it down but im just perpetually shadow banned from reddit
himekokatagiri: they're trying to communicate to a very specific kind of person
himekokatagiri: that thread isn't for us
ebbenflos_25799: and all the comments are just the same old tired "Putin, Musk, The Chinese will eat us whole, Empires only last 250 years, Rebel rebel" type bullshit
himekokatagiri: honestly I'm more concerned if the americans run the world economy to the ground
ebbenflos_25799: true..
himekokatagiri: you can spin it against the US admin
himekokatagiri: hits all the keywords
himekokatagiri: it kinda isn't
ebbenflos_25799: honestly im hoping so, but thats still pretty odd, its weird they're going after this reddit thread.
himekokatagiri: anthropology would be fascinated
himekokatagiri: all that
himekokatagiri: future historians
himekokatagiri: I think we should archive this shit man
himekokatagiri: they're all bots pay no heed
ebbenflos_25799: the thread is getting pretty bad, i think it should be locked
ebbenflos_25799:
himekokatagiri: idk how the Americans do it
himekokatagiri: can't it be done via telework
himekokatagiri: 🚬
ebbenflos_25799: Hello, this thread is getting out of hand, people are using it to talk about conspiracies and spreading weird political propaganda, its honestly just becoming a nuisance https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/s/6CF0tUVGEr
a1c4p0ne: Try to get it to an hour or more
.histic: still going lol
.histic: this is a weird glitch with o3
drewsni: tables for dayz
drewsni: So they distilled o3 into 4o?
brain4brain: <@1152183706849644615> Can’t get to your main Gary Marcus account on twitter, so here’s the discord version
Get reading, Gary
brain4brain: He is an 2025er
zoermena: Aero should read this
clevermoniker: haha, nice
zoermena: Elon is correct that 2029 will be a pivotal year just as every year after 2027 until the universe dies or hopefully we discover other realities so forever
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himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/ehe-anime-gif-anime-girl-teehee-gif-27178660
himekokatagiri: reddit duh
fuhulootogan: guess
himekokatagiri: How did you find this discord
fuhulootogan: dunno
wellmeaningalien: lets be frank ppl gonna be showing gore and scat
himekokatagiri: <@1212375743863066645> do you believe in the singularity
fuhulootogan: what would be the point of engineering yourself to have an IQ of 2 billion when AI has all your needs covered for you
joaoluz19: The smartest human being on the post-human horizon is just the smartest termite
joaoluz19: Fellas worrying about IQ when it's 2 decades before everyone has an IQ of 2 billion
.wolfnacht: nah, cutie...u'r smart
.wolfnacht: Grok added workspace mode.
joaoluz19: Worse, you become a propagandist
fuhulootogan: mental ads?
joaoluz19: Bro first episode of black mirror is literally this
.wolfnacht: also why sonnet on bedrock always stays down ? i checked last week it was still red.
fuhulootogan: mocking me about what
.wolfnacht: >Grok 3's API
i would have become a Ayylon supporter if grok-3 api prices weren't like claude.
technocake.: I was mocking you actually
fuhulootogan: how do you figure out if someone is a polymath just from "textbook teenage edgelord"
technocake.: no I knew because you are a textbook teenage edgelord
fuhulootogan: thats how you knew?
fuhulootogan: oh wow
technocake.: you should ask them
technocake.: and even more strange things beyond that?
technocake.: would your parents like it if I told them you were in a server that promoted not just trans and gay lifestyles but also furry ones?
fuhulootogan: how did you guess
technocake.: wow, a real polymath!
fuhulootogan: i've seen the cover for inglorious bastards but not the movie
technocake.: oh sorry you might not have seen that film, because you are a minor
technocake.:
fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/wojak-brainlet-microwave-smoke-dumb-gif-3026155548321433372
spacetimetsunami: ACCELERATE GO GO GO GO GO
spacetimetsunami: they need to hurry up with super good agents
spacetimetsunami: yeah to an extent i see that as likely, like with an intelligence explosion i think this happens
technocake.: nobody will be able to go up against superintelligence
technocake.: I think that the coming wave will sweep past the significance of government and world gov pretty quickly
spacetimetsunami: so idrk
spacetimetsunami: but im talking about things without a meaningful amount of technical knowledge in the topic
spacetimetsunami: although he is fucking shit up pretty quick so who knows
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joaoluz19: by the state of consciousness you have when knowing things beyond our capacity
wellmeaningalien: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc0StUPq61k
joaoluz19: For personal use off course
wellmeaningalien: lol this one's invasive
wellmeaningalien: oh nvm they do showcase it
wellmeaningalien: fuck this video is ass
wellmeaningalien: thats the whole field of non invasive brain computer interfaces
wellmeaningalien: neuralink is just a more precise version of TMS but i think transcranial stimulation using magnets has also been used in BCIs
fuhulootogan: make it like neuralink
fuhulootogan: how do you
fuhulootogan: now
wellmeaningalien: but if you could identify the neuronal pathways that correspond to suicidal ideation, death, depression, exasperation, violence, what have you
wellmeaningalien: and so with TMS you get those pathways working again
wellmeaningalien: the thing with depression is i think some parts of the brains are inactive and stimulation deprived
fuhulootogan: genius plan
fuhulootogan: instead of fighting depression you reverse it make it more severe and make them suicidal
wellmeaningalien: indeed so
fuhulootogan: this
wellmeaningalien: because what you do with transcranial stimulation is poke a charged probe to draw electric current thru ur brain. and magneticism is the same but at a distance thru magnetic fields
wellmeaningalien: effectively another form of transcranial stimulation
wellmeaningalien: it's already used for getting reads for medical purposes and even might have applications for medical treatment
fuhulootogan: sounds freaky af
wellmeaningalien: i think reading neurons firing has gotten way way more precise too
wellmeaningalien: magnetic cranial stimulation and reading
fuhulootogan: elaborate
wellmeaningalien: not quite so far most approaches are magnetic based
otub: cant avoid eventual nanotech <:Ted:1136265390549381253>
fuhulootogan: organic bluetooth?
wellmeaningalien: did u know there are also non invasive technologies that can do the same as neuralink
fuhulootogan: i don't want technology inside of my neurocranium
wellmeaningalien: u activate the right combination of memories and thought patterns and u make them super suicidal
wellmeaningalien: that was a joke but if you can make an llm think only of the golden gate bridge you could make someone think only about suicide
wellmeaningalien: i think they could
otub: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/711008358815236147/1214255997074415766/invert.gif
fuhulootogan: emm i'm not sure
wellmeaningalien: they could make you kill yourself like the death note
wellmeaningalien: cyberpsychosis
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/edgerunners-cyberpsychosis-sandevistan-cyberpunk-gif-27165868
fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/losing-my-mind-insane-crazy-cat-deep-fried-gif-17402418435549323051
fuhulootogan: imagine neuralink users getting hacked
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anathemaofmankind: This convo makes me want to study math so the terms don't fly over my head.
But then I remember AI will make it pointless
fractalcomputer: And the end result is that we have a bunch of the brightest minds in mathematics and leading figures in their respective fields having a disagreement that no one else has the expertise to resolve.
spicy.lemonade: lol
fractalcomputer: And then Joshi, a respected American researcher has come along for the ride and claims to provide a modified *working* version of Mochizuki's theory; something that Mochizuki hasn't taken very kindly to.
fractalcomputer: But Scholze, the popular star of arithmetic geometry and p-adic geometry etc. thinks that there's a flaw at a central corollary; and has procured extensive resources to study IUTT, even going so far as to visit Mochizuki with several other researchers to talk it out; but Mochizuki's hostile (and frankly bizarre) conduct have driven Scholze and most of Western academia to conclude that IUTT is deeply flawed and unworkable.
fractalcomputer: The problem with Mochizuki is that he's an actual leading researcher in Anabelian Geometry; so people couldn't just dismiss his work as nonsense.
spicy.lemonade: just cant convey well
spicy.lemonade: it probably makes perfect sense in his mind
spicy.lemonade: I feel bad for him
fractalcomputer:
spicy.lemonade: wtf bro
spicy.lemonade: 😭
fractalcomputer: The comments are hilarious.
fractalcomputer: Mochizuki produced this "visualisation" of IUTT.
fractalcomputer: https://youtu.be/6HCz1tFqIcs?si=2kjqFDw0-HQChipu
spicy.lemonade: getting agi
spicy.lemonade: without us yet
spicy.lemonade: im saying that llms could still lead to big scientific breakthroughs
spicy.lemonade: just for this specific case
anathemaofmankind: You're still betting on llms for the future?
fractalcomputer: I disagree.
spicy.lemonade: i think a future llm based model could definetly formalize that
fractalcomputer: Interuniversal Teichmüller Theory.
spicy.lemonade: ah
fractalcomputer: Yes, it does. That's the big problem.
spicy.lemonade: might be thinking of the wrong person
spicy.lemonade: Mochizuki's solution involved some new field he invented
spicy.lemonade: though if i recal
spicy.lemonade: model could possibly make a concrete lean program for that
spicy.lemonade: loll
fractalcomputer: I'd much more like to have a proof verifier smart enough to get through that whole Scholze-Joshi-Mochizuki debacle.
memlaswaif: <:despair:1347430559365726279>
brain4brain: Exactly
spicy.lemonade: we will all see when gpt5 drops
memlaswaif: Whats the difference between roon and brain4brain
brain4brain: Real
spicy.lemonade: yann doesnt think o3 is llm
brain4brain: What else am I missing?
brain4brain: Everything he said up to this point is equivalent
>LLM won’t get us to AGI
>AGI in 10 years if lucky
>Current AI is stupid
spicy.lemonade: yann said not in 2 years but between 5 years
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st.sioux: burgundy
st.sioux: its pantone 1815 c you degenerate swine
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes
frittata: Burgundy to me has more brown in it
hikukomoru: Can you tldr what you just wrote
wellmeaningalien: one ts
two ts
blue ts
red ts
fool me once, shame on ts
fool me twice..
pmo...
alejandrozarzuelo: Both are valid names if you think the value is low enough
alejandrozarzuelo: The same thing
alejandrozarzuelo: Wine or burgundy
frittata: I will allow wine also
alejandrozarzuelo: It wasn't that hard was it?
alejandrozarzuelo: SEE
alejandrozarzuelo: Let's take red as a reference
Is it bluer than pure red or greener?
It's bluer
Is it redder than magenta? Or bluer? It's redder
So we know it's between magenta and red
Is it redder than Rose? About the same? Or magentisher?
It's about the same or a bit redder
Is it saturated? What is the value?
It's saturated enough not to be a Gray, and it's value is low
If you think the value is low enough, then it's low value between magenta and red aka wine coloured
If you think it's not that low, you can call it either rose or crimson
frittata: Probs magenta tbh
frittata: I was being generous, it’s maroon or magenta
hikukomoru:
a1c4p0ne: Analyze*
wellmeaningalien: <:nerdbob:1282544269995020329> <:nerdass:998417173406040064>
wellmeaningalien: ok nerdjandro
wellmeaningalien: in my house we have a pink/maroon box and my mother always insists its brown
alejandrozarzuelo: Let's analyse this together
(I feel like I am talking to toddlers)
alejandrozarzuelo: Wtf you people don't know your chromatic vocabulary?
alejandrozarzuelo: No
wellmeaningalien: the furrification of this server
frittata: <:umidonotseeit:832825159576190986>
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/super-buu-stare-dragon-ball-majin-buu-dragonball-gif-14250919658481755660
wellmeaningalien: you too bene..
hikukomoru:
st.sioux: catgirl escape velocity
frittata: :3
wellmeaningalien: HNHEV
wellmeaningalien: my head fucking hurts when will AI get us to head not hurt escape velocity
zoermena: <:BlushFluent:865334807902027848>
hikukomoru: It's purplish of some sort
wellmeaningalien: ok mr blindman
frittata: Could be red could be purple could be maroon
hikukomoru: That's not red bruh
wellmeaningalien: "if it's germane to the chat" even without fractal we are not safe from big words
a1c4p0ne: No new models today or tmr
technocake.: check it out I am red now
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trojan09205: "I’m not even close to running out btw lmao."
Homie is flexing
okbut: The amount of theatric code in Mr Nobody is also underlooked
All the color coding, the leaf, the train, the butterfly
Seamed perfectly into each scene to represent its impact
One of the underlooked ones is the butterfly flying through frame as the shoe salesman tests the integrity of the shoelace, which snapped when he tested it - because butterflies chew on cotton
trojan09205: 'Holy Mountain' as well a few weeks back
trojan09205: I also watched 'Enemy' which it recommended which was insane haha
trojan09205: I watched 'Only God Forgives' earlier and now im watching 'Beyond the Black Rainbow'
trojan09205: I have seen it- it's great
trojan09205: gpt 4o
okbut: Watch Mr. Nobody
Most underlooked movie in the world IMO
a1c4p0ne: Which model
okbut: They fund that one <:PepeSmug:539547968223576076>
trojan09205: chatGPT has been recommending some seriously fire and trippy films
spicy.lemonade: Is crazy
spicy.lemonade: The jump from o1 with 1-2% frontier math to o3 mini high getting 32% with tools
spicy.lemonade: Than 4o
spicy.lemonade: On longcontext understanding
spicy.lemonade: And o1 gets less
spicy.lemonade: O1 gets like 2% on arcagi😭
professorheaven: Then show o1
professorheaven: Please tell me how much 4 gets on all of those benchmarks?
spicy.lemonade: With o1
spicy.lemonade: Benchmarks we couldn’t even crack
spicy.lemonade: Frontier math
spicy.lemonade: Arc agi
spicy.lemonade: Like Long context understanding
spicy.lemonade: We can look at other benchmarks as well though
professorheaven: o1 got 75%
professorheaven: Original 4 couldn’t even crack 10% on AIME
professorheaven: Dude o3 is like an extra 20% max on stem benchmarks over o1, o1 is like an extra 50% on a bunch of stem benchmarks over original 4
spicy.lemonade: By 2.5 and other models like 3.7 thinking
spicy.lemonade: You guys are blinded
spicy.lemonade: It’s yes bro
.histic: couldn't be me
spicy.lemonade: Who voting no😭
ldj:
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/doodlestein/status/1915796841712468030?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
a1c4p0ne: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/s/y3yjryNKJr
playstation.6: I remember it like that
technocake.: cat is called norse?
playstation.6: its Norse man
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwu5K_eRN3E
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fractalcomputer: So much in that excellent formula
zonchao: true
destrucules: By all means, get the bag, and by all means, express your opinion if you're in a position of power. But the people who *listen* need to be aware of the incentives
futurist_wizard: Using the polls to gauge the reaction
zonchao: nah get the bag 🤑
futurist_wizard: Maybe he's testing the waters on how much he'd be willing to reveal
destrucules: It's not even specifically directional. If you were financially entangled with AI, any timeline you give would be shaped by those incentives. Fast timelines if hype is needed; slow ones if you're trying to avoid regulation. It's not something you'd be able to help, as the structure of your position would demand this of you
destrucules: Personally, I feel like you should be concerned about all of the "no" votes. I mean, if you want blind followers, that's... You do you. But if your goal is to be taken seriously on the merits of your ideas, I think it's concerning that many of these people would not factor in the major financial incentives that shape the opinions you're *allowed* to express, within these hypotheticals. I find this very concerning, and I'm hoping you do too
alejandrozarzuelo: have you done the visualizator?
alejandrozarzuelo: <@312370916820779040>
alejandrozarzuelo: btw
destrucules: It will be able to do it if allowed/asked. Like... It may need resources. You may have to give it time, lab equipment, autonomy, etc.
.tenshine: let us dream bruh
st.sioux: lots of ifs there bro
.tenshine: If we can tweak dna, proteins and molecules without the need of sophisticated nanotechnology and "if" that's all that is needed to achieve aging reversal, i can picture it for early 30's
sarik0497: Yeah, but it still makes me wonder how long it'll be until such things are feasible. I know San's prediction for LEV is 80% confidence in maybe 2035
.tenshine: I'm not crazy about space flight this can wait, first thing first we need lifespan
.tenshine: You mean straight up anti aging because LEV is much more easy achievable
sarik0497: I'd have assumed that the insanely interesting stuff like LEV and space flight would require at least a lot of time or ASI <:Hmm:956951826933112842>
wellmeaningalien: Oh now there is no sound for we all live underground
.tenshine: I think most of us animals will look confused
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/virtual-insanity-walking-walking-back-virtual-insanity-walking-reversed-walking-reversed-gif-10372581163346915305
gamerbath: it will be exciting to see what deepseek will release in the future, now that their models are actually competitive with closed source
sarik0497: Like, how will 2030-35 look
wellmeaningalien: Who can tell what magic spells will be doing for us
wellmeaningalien: Will probably make test time compute scaling much more effective while being less costly
sarik0497: What I'm curious about, is how the world would potentially look like if AGI is achieved so sudden.
wellmeaningalien: Really good for optimizing compute n shid
wellmeaningalien: Tho the model optimization techniques that they came up with are really cool
gamerbath: yea
wellmeaningalien: r1 is cool but eh
.tenshine: you mean after deepseek <:ez:1136267305521774634>
wellmeaningalien: I give it 2026-2028. 2030 latest
wellmeaningalien: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1301330473964011520/1328740062631825418/Tumblr_l_166799240918295.gif
gamerbath: I was uncertain but then after o1 and o3 it seems plausible AGI is happening within a year
sarik0497: Nowadays, I'm honestly not to sure myself. Unless GPT-5 is a smash hit, I think 28-32 is most likely.
gamerbath: 25 or 26 seem very likely to me, but out of all these options it's most likely going to happen by 2029....
agezes:
futurist_wizard: it was 2029
futurist_wizard: it wasn't before 2029
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spicy.lemonade: THE INTERNATIONAL MATH OLYMPIAD
spacetimetsunami: This is really funny.
spicy.lemonade: lmaoo
spicy.lemonade: do you know what the imo is?
czdct: gotcha
czdct: you mean the data coming from multi billion dollar tech companies
shirethedreamer: there can be no proof other than just getting there
thats always the case
you either believe the trend lines or you dont and thats okay
spicy.lemonade: lmao
spicy.lemonade: what else
spicy.lemonade: llms achieve gold on international math olympiad, gold on physics olympiad, gold on coding olympiad, publkish research in iclr
czdct: if he does I would change my opinion
czdct: I say it's utter nosnense since he has no proof for it
spicy.lemonade: given all data is against you
czdct: the burden of proof isn't on me. ilya says that current llm's will reach agi without any explanation to how
spicy.lemonade: the burden of proof is on you atp
spicy.lemonade: this is useless
spicy.lemonade: and stop making blank statements
spicy.lemonade: support you claim
spicy.lemonade: im asking you questions
czdct: hyping up stuff and then starting a company
spicy.lemonade: youre making claims and youre not supporting them
spacetimetsunami: And those funds are gonna go to…not making AGI?
czdct: same thing happened with murati
czdct: literally creating hype to get funds for his company
spicy.lemonade: based on what
czdct: the whole notion ilya has that an LLM can reach agi is just utter nonsense
spicy.lemonade: which is?
spacetimetsunami: If someone tries for two seconds to make something written and doesn’t want it to be obviously AI, nobody would know
czdct: and even that it isn't really good at since people can instantly tell when something is written with ai
spicy.lemonade: gpt changed trajectory of technology
czdct: if your job requires a more than a bachelors degree I doubt that gpt will help you besides with writing emails
spacetimetsunami: Yeah. We’re now in an arms race to AGI - that’s what they’re literally fucking calling it
shirethedreamer: if by "nothing" you mean more and more complicated code being written by ai than was predicted for that time then yeah nothing happened
spicy.lemonade: clusters
spicy.lemonade: internet usage
spicy.lemonade: amount of data generated
spicy.lemonade: investment, usage
spicy.lemonade: look where the money is going
czdct: nor in anyone's around me
spicy.lemonade: it did
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spicy.lemonade: in his last interview
fractalcomputer: Oh sure, about non-consequential advancements and publication dates.
spicy.lemonade: he shortened btw
anathemaofmankind: Compared him to Gary is just crazy
spicy.lemonade: before true agi
brain4brain: Are you a Gary agent?
spicy.lemonade: we could likeley have a model that solves a milenium problem
brain4brain: Citing Yann is like citing Gary
spicy.lemonade: dont think it matters much honestly lol
brain4brain: >Yann
Opinion rejected
brain4brain: ASI*
brain4brain:
spicy.lemonade: prob means agi 2027
anathemaofmankind: Yann says AGI in 5-10 years if everything goes great.
So AGI in 2030 - 2035
brain4brain: Next day I was proven wrong
spicy.lemonade: not really a few thousand days more like 1 thousand days
brain4brain: And I said that LLM is sample inefficient
brain4brain: A day before arc is cracked roon tweeted saying arc is a perception problem not the other problem or something
brain4brain: It have always been right
brain4brain: It lines up:
Sam Altman: few thousand days from ASI (1 year ago)
~~Goon~~ Roon: 150 weekends (today)
fractalcomputer: Many researchers larp as well.
fractalcomputer: "Public timelines" my fucking ass. Give reasons to believe whatever bullshit you have to peddle other than having some vague connections to the industry.
spicy.lemonade: exept maybe jimmy apple
spicy.lemonade: everyone else is a larper
brain4brain: (Before 2030)
spicy.lemonade: only ones you should believe are the actual researchers lol
brain4brain: ASI shall happen
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/paul-atreides-lisan-al-gaib-muad-dib-dune-2-part-2-gif-6652943365664618564
brain4brain: Something ever happen
fractalcomputer: Yeah, well I am a bit galled by this new culture of Twitter prophets.
brain4brain: It’s so over 😔
fractalcomputer: We don't have the boosts anymore.
brain4brain: - NYT, December 8th 1903
spicy.lemonade: imagine saying nothing ever happens during 1940, or 2000, or 2009
anathemaofmankind: Capitalism
brain4brain: What happen to this server
brain4brain: Why is all the emoji locked behind a paywall now
spicy.lemonade: something always happens youre just never watching
anathemaofmankind: Nothing ever happens
brain4brain: Believe in the ASI, Fractual.
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literallyvarane: What the break even time on those machines?
theaiguy69420_89814: Like, it would be a food place where you get something super simple super quick for super cheap
theaiguy69420_89814: The bots would be fine tuned for specific menus
literallyvarane: How much you paying people to stock the machine? How much does the machine cost? How much does maintenance cost? How often?
theaiguy69420_89814: Neo and figure are getting good
theaiguy69420_89814: I think it's doable maybe in like 9mo
alejandrozarzuelo: that will take some time
alejandrozarzuelo: but to 0?
alejandrozarzuelo: you can probably cut it down to 10 right now with androids, and soon to 2
theaiguy69420_89814: At 24/7 places that's 200k/month
theaiguy69420_89814: That's 300$/hr in savings right there
theaiguy69420_89814: Think of your average McDonald's, right, there's like 20 employees, each getting paid some 15$/hr
alejandrozarzuelo: but 100% is still not possible
alejandrozarzuelo: 90% automation can be imlemented sure
literallyvarane: If Starbucks hasn’t done it it’s for a reason.
wolf3404: Bro robots can barely walk
alejandrozarzuelo: i feel like we arent there yet
theaiguy69420_89814: It would be open 24/7
theaiguy69420_89814: Can't a robot do that as well?
theaiguy69420_89814: You mean the cleaning of the robots?
theaiguy69420_89814: Robots can clean the machinery, no?
literallyvarane: Muh maintenance and cleanliness
literallyvarane: Not much cheaper probably
theaiguy69420_89814: I wonder how fast and cheap we could get a mcdouble
alejandrozarzuelo: "oh barely anything has happened in over 100 years because look, we used computers in 1880 and we still use them today"
theaiguy69420_89814: All humanoids
theaiguy69420_89814: How about a fast food joint with no human employees
theaiguy69420_89814: I was thinking about an AI startup idwa
wolf3404: exactly
alejandrozarzuelo: is wrong
alejandrozarzuelo: my point is that saying that nothing has happened in 100 years because we call the same thing two different products
literallyvarane: The point is that the second one exist at all.
literallyvarane: The point isn’t that it’s the closest possible comp lolol
alejandrozarzuelo: modern cars are not just more powerful, efficient, use different fuels and are faster
most importantly they are several orders of magnitude safer
literallyvarane: Feel like you’d get mad at the wright brothers vs space shuttle comp too lol
alejandrozarzuelo: they are called the same but they are fundamentally different concepts and products
alejandrozarzuelo: or the same way you can call papyrus and modern paper paper
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah no
you can call both of them cars the same way that you can call a rotary phone and a samsung galaxy phones
wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-gif-4408076016540863651
literallyvarane: Forest for the trees
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futurist_wizard: My country was the greatest invaders of all time
okbut: The audacity of the other 7 billion to have internet
alejandrozarzuelo: In most other southern Chinese provinces it's quite common
Not so much in northern China
rayanquitplayin: Bro y’all are all international
hikukomoru: Biggest Spain hater and proud <:ez:1136267305521774634>
okbut: Lots of cultures have a day nap, it's an alloted time here in Taiwan
alejandrozarzuelo: I am a fennec UwU
I like hot dry climate
rayanquitplayin: Hater
futurist_wizard: I may visit spain or Portugal this year but i hate hot weather
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't like my climate
alejandrozarzuelo: True
hikukomoru: Damn
Imagine living in the hellhole that is Spain and then not even having a good climate to make up for it
alejandrozarzuelo: But it's quite common, I see plenty of people napping here when it's a nice sunny day
futurist_wizard: I usually take naps on top of people's cars
alejandrozarzuelo: I live in the not sunny part of Spain
alejandrozarzuelo: Sad thing, where I live there are not that many sunny days
alejandrozarzuelo: I also take naps on the city centre sometimes, but I prefer the park
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes, on sunny days yes
hikukomoru: Is this normal in spain
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes
futurist_wizard: The hardest working Spanish male
alejandrozarzuelo: Hardest working people in Spain be like:
alejandrozarzuelo: No, this is a very hard-working Spanish cleaner of course
futurist_wizard: Is this you when you were homeless?
spicy.lemonade: Google dropped a lot and also nothing at the same time
alejandrozarzuelo: Gotta respect the siesta
alejandrozarzuelo: People napping on the streets
hikukomoru: It's nice if you have money
Most of us are very poor by western standards
alejandrozarzuelo: Classical day in Spain
alejandrozarzuelo:
trent_k: basically different standardized tests for LLMs to measure their performance in various categories of tasks
theaiguy69420_89814: Portuguese people are hell scapes
alejandrozarzuelo: It is by US standards
futurist_wizard: I thought Portugal was meant to be quite a nice place
rayanquitplayin: What does the benchmark thing mean? (GPQA, LCB, MMLU-Pro)
hikukomoru: This is true
I hope to participate in the long Portuguese tradition of getting the fuck out of this country
futurist_wizard: I fought with a Portuguese kid in high school
hikukomoru: Because Portugal sucks
So tons of us move out
okbut:
okbut: Hope y'all are investing in Google after their latest partnership
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theaiguy69420_89814: It's funny how my kinks are both male submission and race play
trent_k: but you can just write code to automaticallly call the API however you want, it's not very restricted
fractalcomputer: Overall sexuality is an activity devoid of any humanity.
trent_k: the intended use of the API is that your browser will use Javascript to call this API and use the data it returns to display the contents of the page on the website
hikukomoru: Elon needs to cure my autism ASAP
literallyvarane: Maybe I don’t know enough about how Roblox works to understand this lol. I still don’t know what api this is, or what the intended use of the API is
fractalcomputer: Some moralist could certainly see male submission as equally horrendous and abominable.
trent_k: after enough rounds of this search method, you end up with a pretty complete list of all the bad groups
trent_k: 4. return to step 1
trent_k: 3. sort the groups that haven't been manually scored by their suspected badness score in descending order, then start manually marking those groups as either fine or bad myself
trent_k: 2. generate a score wherein the badness score of a group that hasn't been manually rated is calculated as the number of known bad users divided by the number of total users
zonchao: https://x.com/business/status/1915099767752839357
hikukomoru: Not surprised right-wingers have the most fucked up fetishes
trent_k: 1. scrape all groups that 'bad' members are in
trent_k: manually identify some "bad" groups and mark them as flagged, and mark all their users as flagged
trent_k: then
trent_k: that's the seeding process
trent_k: 3. for every user, start scraping all the groups that they're in
trent_k: 2. scrape every member of the group via the API and store the user data
trent_k: 1. find a couple large groups on the website manually and save their group IDs
trent_k: the way the process worked for scraping was like this
fractalcomputer: The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
literallyvarane: How are you seeing the avatar via api? What does the api provide?
trent_k: you dont hate roblox enough
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/green-goblin-tongue-malicious-devious-gif-24541958
fractalcomputer: What the fuck.
trent_k: so for race play you might see users with black skinned avatars and names like "14in_BULL_WANT_SNOBUNNY"
trent_k: roblox has some basic filtering of stuff ur not allowed to put in a group or username but they always find a way around it
trent_k: nor are the users' names
trent_k: the groups' names are really not very subtle
literallyvarane: What’s the API *actually* for?
fractalcomputer:
literallyvarane: But what info are they sharing that makes you think they’re doing race play etc etc. like what’s the identifying vector here?
gamerbath: 2030? more like 174 trillion <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1915119333493387753
trent_k: there's not a blog post or anything, but I posted about it a number of times on kiwi farms
theaiguy69420_89814: even <@1068159407671754824>
theaiguy69420_89814: <@266232329557639168> , might be helpful: https://www.cursor.com/changelog/0-49
trent_k: and rendered it into that network graph
trent_k: and then I scraped a few million roblox users' and groups' info
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himekokatagiri: Biding time for the o3 reveal
literallyvarane: Hereby announcing myself as a marketing consultant. $150k/year starting fee.
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/satori-orientalzenzai-touhou-touhou-project-komeiji-gif-6435586850422462019
literallyvarane: Fire their marketing team.
literallyvarane: This clowns missed the chance to tweet at 9:56am.
“Livestream on o3 hours and o4m”
thedon7075: finally we get to see if o3 is real or hype
literallyvarane: I’m generally of this opinion, but Altman said o3 has gotten stronger since the preview so *maybe* it’s >2.5? We’ll see.
zonchao: no
himekokatagiri: maybe
himekokatagiri: Better image gen
zonchao: new model big number
mtj8920: Why people so excited about o3? Gemini 2.5 pro exp beats it in GPQA and AIME, and is free with unlimited uses. o3 uses a lot more compute than o1, so it might be even more expensive than o1, which is already waaay more expensive than 2.5.
o4-mini is more interesting, because it shows which trajectory we're heading to and progress.
.0xunkn0wn: let's gooo
metaldragon01: Hasn't been Thursday for a bit
zonchao: new rule ig
zonchao: fr?
metaldragon01: Last big release was Wednesday too I think
zonchao: they are breaking the thursday rule this is unacceptable
metaldragon01: The unknown unknowns are the problem
metaldragon01: Every model o4 and up will obviously be dangerous in ways that are hard to measure. It's going to be a tricky dance.
abundantliving_: They released some blog post for access restrictions on future models. I couldn't read
himekokatagiri: <@505313122802728972> as Google's strongest soldier what's your opinion
zonchao: o4 mini tomorrow 🤔
zonchao: yes mini
metaldragon01: Full o4 likely won't get access outside of products due to safety for a while
ldj: It seems they only plan to release o3 full and o4-mini, and maybe O3 pro this month but not O4. Might have to wait another 3 or 4 months before O4 drops.
zoermena: <@471334973379706900> HYPE
metaldragon01: Expect o3 mini to o1 pro dynamic imo
hey1_1hey: o3 was already 2700 elo out of a max of 3k on code forces
metaldragon01: they wouldn't release full o3 at a higher price if o4 mini at a lower price was better
hey1_1hey: Remember that tweet where they said they imrpvoed o3 by quite a bit <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
hey1_1hey: Yeah prob
zonchao: hmm
metaldragon01: Likely both today
zonchao: tomorrow is o4 ig?
hey1_1hey: True, I kept seeing rumors on twitter and I was thinking there was no chance
metaldragon01: Looks like the smoke has fire afterall
hey1_1hey: <@1280414635836837992> actually beat me to it <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
ldj: Damn barely beat me to it
hey1_1hey: That would be amazing, I dont see why they wouldn't honestly. Theeres been leaks of the cover art of o4-mini among other thins
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spacetimetsunami: Do you like type o negative
fractalcomputer: You should play classical music or throat singing at a maximal volume.
spicy.lemonade: I’m right next door
spicy.lemonade: I’m serious
st.sioux: someone took over spicy
spicy.lemonade: No way
st.sioux: wtf
spicy.lemonade: Guy must have a 12 inches
spicy.lemonade: Whole fooor can hear
spicy.lemonade: Bunch of people came next to door
spicy.lemonade: Loll
spicy.lemonade: The guy is going crazy
st.sioux: 👁️👁️
fractalcomputer: She better keep the fetish posting to a minimum.
spicy.lemonade: She’s so loud
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: The girl next door is loud as hell
777agical: AI is THE art <:ez:1136267305521774634>
.wolfnacht: also, i don't know the history of these pony fetish. How did it break captured the minds of neckbeards on internet ?
fractalcomputer: Huh.
hey1_1hey: Fuck art, Make machines
.wolfnacht: AI can produce slop too, but also masterpieces. Human especially the `modern artists` can only produce slop. Since their moral bias and narrative conditioned mind will act against greater goals.
hikukomoru: Art make machines fuck*
st.sioux: crazy
st.sioux: how does it take like 3 messages to go from some shitty art to gooning again (replied to wrong person)
hey1_1hey: It sounds coherrent but it really isn;t
hey1_1hey: Or even art make fuck machines
hikukomoru: Or maybe you can read it as: Fuck, machines make art
hey1_1hey: Thats a fire quote
.wolfnacht: the question is why aren't we burning down "pony fuckers" ?
hey1_1hey: Hey one is better than the other thats all I'm saying
precariousworlds.: lol
fractalcomputer: It seems humans can produce slop just as well.
hikukomoru: Fuck machines, make art? Or - Fuck machines make art?
precariousworlds.: Ahahahahah
hey1_1hey: God it actually hurts looking at it
hey1_1hey: Oh my god ow
hey1_1hey: AHHHHHHHHH
precariousworlds.: Found the funniest yet
The my little pony 💀💀💀
.wolfnacht: i see
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oooooooooog: the only winning move is not to play 🗣️ 🔥
fractalcomputer: Neumann invented game theory for that.
fractalcomputer: Pure, distilled retardation called "Us vs. Them mentality".
oooooooooog: just sounds like a discount philosopher
oooooooooog: how can someone even specialize in ethics
spicy.lemonade: idk, i just said it it will be smartest in every field
oooooooooog: i feel like i did
oooooooooog: did i aleady ask what an ethicist is
fractalcomputer: ASI is when all the ethicists get thrown off high cliffs.
st.sioux: peer reviewed cope
oooooooooog: varifieble in under an hour depending on the length
oooooooooog: easy definition
oooooooooog: ASI is when it can make me a good fanfiction
fractalcomputer: That is called "shitty science."
oooooooooog: it's not a gut feeling if i surgically removed my gastrointestinal tract, is it?
st.sioux: that's all anyone really has until the future unfolds
fractalcomputer: And who would be the smartest human in history? Let alone in each conceivable field of human competence?
fractalcomputer: Most of the people here say these things based on nothing but gut feelings.
spicy.lemonade: agi but smartest human in history at eveything
retrerox: Thats why the key is multiple companies doing AI so they have a race to develop and be the 1st one to share it.
spicy.lemonade: china wouldnt
spicy.lemonade: anthropic said they wont
spicy.lemonade: openAI likeley wont give us asi acess
spicy.lemonade: even if opensource we wont be able to run on our feeble gpus
spicy.lemonade: agi max
retrerox: I think i shouldn't read this discord that much, it gives me anxiety 😵💫
spicy.lemonade: public doesnt need asi lol
oooooooooog: why did my son delete all of his messages
oooooooooog: i am pround of you son
metaldragon01: Advancement anywhere can be applied everywhere
metaldragon01: AI is a general purpose tech
spicy.lemonade: thats not the same
oooooooooog: nuclear war, meteor impact, von Neumann replicating probe invasion
metaldragon01: Sure...that's gonna happen
metaldragon01: Tell the military they can't use the latest version of AI and need to bear China
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: literally just remove access from leaders gpus
spicy.lemonade: wdym sure
metaldragon01: Ok sure keep thinking that
spicy.lemonade: slow
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spicy.lemonade: Sam is always exited about these quality of life shit
hikukomoru: MikuGPT
spicy.lemonade: That ads up
spicy.lemonade: Yes
hikukomoru: Can I finally turn ChatGPT into a cute anime girl
spicy.lemonade: Ohhhhh
futurist_wizard: Even as a kid i was like.. thats it?
spicy.lemonade: Hmmmm
spicy.lemonade: Avatar?
futurist_wizard: Avatar was so mid
hikukomoru: Avatars 😲
metaldragon01: Face to the voice
himekokatagiri: what's an avatar
metaldragon01: Avatars let's gooo?
futurist_wizard: It is a use case but a rarely utilized one
anathemaofmankind: Do you think necessary species will go extinct in our lifetimes. Doubt
spicy.lemonade: Reasoning over image?
spicy.lemonade: The feature is visual
futurist_wizard: Well we have surely better ways of doing that
spicy.lemonade:
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/steaming-stressed-stress-girl-anime-gif-9411558708912965904
alejandrozarzuelo: like everyone?
hikukomoru: No 🫦 🫦
alejandrozarzuelo: people who want to live in an ecosystem?
himekokatagiri: what's wrong with anime
futurist_wizard:
himekokatagiri: personal space komoru chan
futurist_wizard:
anathemaofmankind: Who cares
hikukomoru: That's all that matters
hikukomoru: They're cute
alejandrozarzuelo: basically, these techniques will be useful to de-extinct species in the future so that ecosystems dont die
himekokatagiri: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
hikukomoru: Kiss Fractal
himekokatagiri: how can I trust someone that doesn't have an anime girl pfp
wellmeaningalien: because its effectively the first species that was brought back from extinction thru gene editing
himekokatagiri: clearly only the purple people here are trustworthy
forallhumanity: This is fake
alejandrozarzuelo: they explain it on their video
himekokatagiri: How can I get the purple role
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spicy.lemonade: oh shit
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: deep research
spicy.lemonade: gonna try openAI deepresearch
spicy.lemonade: lol
ldj: /s.
ldj: 😔
ldj: Yes, it looks like the AIs are taking my job faster than I thought
fractalcomputer: Grok is being used to predict release dates now..?
spicy.lemonade: llama 4 late april
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: eleven labs q4
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 mid 2025
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: deeper research predicts drops
spicy.lemonade: R2 could drop any day
spicy.lemonade: Anything can happen
spicy.lemonade: Can’t wait for what’s in store next week
spicy.lemonade: will next week be a big week
spicy.lemonade: could basically walk it through creating your favoirte artists song
ailoveyoom: I want native voice to direct the vocals of the AI singers 🥺
spicy.lemonade: less posibilities
spicy.lemonade: and generate song
spicy.lemonade: native sounds & music would be easy to copyright
spicy.lemonade: but still not comparable to where image gen is today
spicy.lemonade: maybe dalle 3
mihrcelium: btsrsly, Suno v4 is definitely not dalle2 level any more. And you know how critical I was of it months back.
mihrcelium: How dare you.
spicy.lemonade: in terms of all this
spicy.lemonade: because suno is dalle 2 level
mihrcelium: OAI has more resources than Suno, and Suno is surviving despite the legal challenges.
spicy.lemonade: probably hard to stop copyright
ailoveyoom: They're also more protective of their IPs 🤔
ailoveyoom: I think more so than art/video
ailoveyoom: Music is a legal minefield, many powerful entities there
mihrcelium: Also surprised 11L haven't launched their model either. Their demo was, what, a year ago?
mihrcelium: I'm surprised OAI haven't launched anything in the gen music sphere.
spicy.lemonade: waiting on veo 3
mihrcelium: I auto-subbed to pro for Sora because I fell for the hype. 😦
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zonchao: https://x.com/goodside/status/1905047891103678760?
hikukomoru: You care too much about random internet stranger's opinions
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/dont-care-anime-gif-23820490
futurist_wizard: Its a empty shoe
maintcrew: few ppl have the dawg to be a professional hater, a lot of ppl just hate cuz its ugly
hikukomoru: So
maintcrew: ppl who hate ai just hate that it used to look ugly
maintcrew: hes on ozempic nowadays so not applicable anymore
anathemaofmankind: Aren't you a leftist
hikukomoru: There an extra hidden foot there
anathemaofmankind: This reminds of that area with bayle
futurist_wizard:
spacetimetsunami: Precisely
futurist_wizard:
zonchao: the only acceptable argument is that it's really good and it'll put them out of jobs, everything else is virtue signalling
spacetimetsunami: “AI is plagiarizing artists!!!”
Motherfucker if that’s plagiarism, then so is artists taking inspiration from other art. Just admit your huge stupid cope.
fractalcomputer: The gods who are only worshipped by the benthic dwellers commune with me in my dreams. They told me that a machine can never have a soul.
hikukomoru: My favourite Skyrim enemy the Drawyr 🙏
anathemaofmankind: Your indifference is inspiring to me.
I will start to act like this whenever someone else experiences harassment over other stuff
hikukomoru: "ermmm AI bad because no soul"
spicy.lemonade:
spacetimetsunami: It’s so funny
spacetimetsunami: Everyone sucks at making arguments abt why they hate it tho
futurist_wizard: I think its pretty good
futurist_wizard: He gave the character cat ears
hikukomoru: >Reddit hates AI
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/meme-memes-dont-ask-dont-care-dont-care-didnt-ask-we-dont-care-meme-gif-25334356
anathemaofmankind: That's so ass
futurist_wizard: Bruh
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: it's funny cus the only reason reddits making money is cus of ai
anathemaofmankind: Yeah even celebrities shitting on it
hikukomoru: Not anymore
futurist_wizard: Everyone hates ai
zonchao: they hate ai
zonchao: do you use reddit<:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hikukomoru: Singularity cancelled 🙏
hikukomoru: Waow some random guy on xitter said something
It's so over AI bros
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/okay-sounds-good-jim-halpert-the-office-good-point-gif-15559601663074157456
futurist_wizard:
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literallyvarane:
3ds0662: at that point its completely pay to win which is the worst
hey1_1hey: Any sugar daddies in here willing to splash 20k for yours turly
literallyvarane:
.histic: yeah
literallyvarane: Or in the studio?
3ds0662: wtf
3ds0662: 20k
3ds0662: fuck
literallyvarane: Wait can 2.5 no longer access YouTube in app?
st.sioux: or maybe a saas a day or whatever
.histic: $20,000 i mean
st.sioux: if it can do apps or webapps you could probably just use it to shit out apps to the app store or android store and see what sticks
3ds0662: where do brokies get 2k?
3ds0662: only good thing about it is o1 pro lol
3ds0662: operator shit, sora shit, wtf yeah
3ds0662: the 200$ one doesn't even pay itself off how tf am i supposed to pay 2k??
literallyvarane: There’s some level of leading the horse to water there.
literallyvarane: This doesn’t do it for me imo. For me at least, getting the model to identify and ask the right questions is critical for being level 4
hey1_1hey: Bargin
3ds0662: I'm fucked
3ds0662: 2k per month???
.histic: no clue <:idk:1136264106937171999>
it could even be full o4 with deep research and that's it <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
st.sioux: like not just limited to one app
st.sioux: you think it will be able to interact with desktops?
popsiclejohnithan: It has to be if they are confidant enough to charge that price.
.histic: probably full o4 that's agentic.
.histic: so, it better be good.
.histic: The Information reported that these "innovators" will cost upwards to 2000 per month
popsiclejohnithan: If they truly have then things are going to get very exciting.
destrucules: >>> As a third validation, we focused on generating hypotheses to explain bacterial gene transfer evolution mechanisms related to antimicrobial resistance (AMR) — microbes' evolved mechanisms to resist infection-treating drugs. This is another complex challenge that involves understanding the molecular mechanisms of gene transfer (conjugation, transduction, and transformation) alongside the ecological and evolutionary pressures that drive AMR genes to spread.
For this test, expert researchers instructed the AI co-scientist to explore a topic that had already been subject to novel discovery in their group, but had not yet been revealed in the public domain, namely, to explain how capsid-forming phage-inducible chromosomal islands (cf-PICIs) exist across multiple bacterial species. The AI co-scientist system independently proposed that cf-PICIs interact with diverse phage tails to expand their host range. This in silico discovery, which had been experimentally validated in the original novel laboratory experiments performed prior to use of the AI co-scientist system, are described in co-timed manuscripts (1, 2) with our collaborators at the Fleming Initiative and Imperial College London.
destrucules: https://research.google/blog/accelerating-scientific-breakthroughs-with-an-ai-co-scientist/
destrucules: https://youtu.be/Jo31LEns2zY
spicy.lemonade: big difference
spicy.lemonade: to aid its research
spicy.lemonade: or a research paper that was developed
literallyvarane: I’m not aware of any model that’s solving, let alone contributing to, truly frontier math.
spicy.lemonade: or something
spicy.lemonade: alphatensor could not use knowledge from physics
spicy.lemonade: they were bound to the limits of the program
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fractalcomputer: A deeply disturbing image.
zonchao:
zoermena: OPEN AI WAKE UP
zonchao: https://x.com/nima_owji/status/1903146003974496408
st.sioux: wdym what is the point lol
spicy.lemonade: I sleep
maintcrew: tf is a point of a chinese model if its not open source 😭
maintcrew: its not open source
maintcrew: wait
sarik0497: I might just be out of the loop, but scoring well on these tests doesn’t matter at all unless the AI can do it every time a new one shows up.
hey1_1hey: I just hope its cheap. I don't see competition as a bad thing in any way
maintcrew: maybe they made it omega big and are offsetting costs from some mamba part of the arch
maintcrew: idk iirc the premise of mamba is that inference was cheaper
maintcrew: sussy
maintcrew: no benchmark against gemini or claude?
hey1_1hey: Twas' just a joke dw. Its not actually a thousand per mil
literallyvarane: WHAT
hey1_1hey: "$1000 per million tokens" <:doomer:1136265388473196644>
hey1_1hey: Good point, I look forward to hearing though
hey1_1hey: I am gonna have to start vibe coding in chinese
spicy.lemonade: Etc
spicy.lemonade: Or how much it costs
spicy.lemonade: They don’t tell us how large it is
hey1_1hey: It beats some other models on 2 benchs. Its ight, progress is progress as always
spicy.lemonade: As data shows
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: It’s same as others
spicy.lemonade: Doesn’t do that much
spicy.lemonade: Eh
hey1_1hey: big
hey1_1hey: New arch is actually useful
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/wedding-crasher-hro-gif-25636997
spicy.lemonade: Yes
hey1_1hey: This real?
alejandrozarzuelo: isnt by definition a hivemind political-less? unless you count having arguments with yourself as political
spicy.lemonade: Yes
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
maintcrew: big mamba model?
connorsphone.: This can’t happen if we all die
I think there would stil be politics in ASI situation. But the nature of it would change dramatically
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hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/danny-devito-clapping-gif-2588623054959555529
zoermena: What did destructules just say
st.sioux: its shit
.histic: 4o created a new OpenAI logo, what do you guys think?
zoermena: I’ve redeemed myself by treating AI properly, I’ve also indirectly generated millions of data for it. This is in relation to my jail breaking past.
destrucules: Just make sure you're comfortable with yourself. That you won't look back on your own behavior in 2025 with regret. If you're comfortable with what you're doing, by all means, continue. But... For your own sake, just make sure you're prepared to be wrong
destrucules: Why?
anathemaofmankind: Bro needs meds
hikukomoru: No I can’t answer it
You’re the AI consciousness expert here
Tell me if I’m safe or not
memlaswaif: destrucules u need to stay away from anything AI related for a while
hikukomoru: Yeap
destrucules: Yes
spacetimetsunami: Is the new v3 model update automatically updated into the deepseek app?
destrucules: Let's say the AIs forgive you
hikukomoru: Shit I sold my soul to Xi Jinping instead
destrucules: Yes. And it's happening in millions of other places concurrently
st.sioux: 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯
anathemaofmankind: Depends if the AI is mad at me.
I guess I will be sorry if so
memlaswaif: is this ethical crisis in the room with us rn
destrucules: Will you be comfortable with the actions you took today if that happens in the future?
hikukomoru: Yeah free image gen for everyone
anathemaofmankind: If AI is proven to be sentient without plausible doubt then I will agree we should treat them ethically
st.sioux: no you have to sell your soul to openai
zoermena: Did you see my message.
destrucules: That's a question only you can answer
hikukomoru: I always say please and thank you to ChatGPT
Am I safe
fractalcomputer: Lol.
destrucules: Because it is hard to live with the knowledge that you yourself participated in amplifying a heinous ethical crisis
memlaswaif: Why
st.sioux: i look back an hour ago and i regret shit already
destrucules: That in ten years people might look back on the actions they took today with regret
memlaswaif: So asi becomes evil and it spares u for some reason?
memlaswaif: what r u implying
destrucules: If ASI becomes evil, I will have been on the wrong side of history, not you guys
st.sioux: when asi becomes evil
st.sioux: in the asi future
st.sioux: for not believing
destrucules: What?
st.sioux: Are you going to kill us
destrucules: Just be prepared to find yourself on the wrong side of history. Just in case it turns out you were wrong, I hope you're making decisions you won't regret
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futurist_wizard: Chocy milk?
fractalcomputer: That would sound quite boring, but I suppose preferable to whatever this is.
futurist_wizard: No chocy cake?
zonchao: he isnt
popsiclejohnithan: So what does make you happy?
zoermena: Would you prefer a life devoid of senses where you existed as brain in jar and had 5 ASIs to discuss ideas about for eternity?
okbut: >fibre
Oh British
fractalcomputer: I wouldn't know.
_3sphere: Interesting
_3sphere: I see
ailoveyoom: I still don't like it tbh, it's like I need to maintain/keep some level of emotional distance/boundary/compartmentalize myself away from the character.
fractalcomputer: I try to eat something I can find. Usually something with enough fibre and protein.
hikukomoru: Do you enjoy anything? Like, at all?
hikukomoru: He's Carcosan
futurist_wizard: Are you sure you are human with like organs and stuff, no metal?
okbut: What about when you get hungry? IV?
zonchao:
_3sphere: Yeah but like wouldn't first person be like a diary entry from the character
ailoveyoom: (Ever) <:rolf:1136266740754550784> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
fractalcomputer: I am disgusted by food as well.
fractalcomputer: Food does not make me happy.
ailoveyoom: More on first person, but 2nd person also feels icky to me fsr.
zonchao: LLLLLLLLL
hikukomoru: If you (ever) have sex one day, try doing it with someone you like for your first time
fractalcomputer: I am not American.
futurist_wizard: I don't have any one night stands, i have had 3 and didn't like the careless experience
okbut: I thought you were American
popsiclejohnithan: It's the same reason food makes you happy man, we are programmed to like things that continue the survival of the species. you get dopamine rewards for continuing to survive and espeshally making more people with another.
ailoveyoom: And that sounds nice, but also scawy <:coy:1187466404367175821>
_3sphere: First person? Wouldn't it be second person?
fractalcomputer: I am very upfront with the fact that I am not capable of empathy with people I know well.
hikukomoru: I need an emotional connection otherwise it doesn't feel like anything to me
hikukomoru: Emotional condoms 💀
fractalcomputer: I am a very anhedonic person.
futurist_wizard: I don't have any pregnancy fetishes, a girl kept trying to play up to something like that with me, total turn off
popsiclejohnithan: Hell yeahhh.
alejandrozarzuelo: Why I is it that whenever you talk you make yourself look creepier
hikukomoru: What about pleasure for the sake of pleasure?
ailoveyoom: I'm the opposite, I need emotional condoms 🤔
Like, even reading first person smut or watching POV videos feel super weird to me.
fractalcomputer: Well, for me they would.
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spicy.lemonade: lol
alejandrozarzuelo: no need to wait for AGI
alejandrozarzuelo: there is not going to be much employment for artists NOW
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/dune-stilgar-as-written-as-it-was-written-dune-2-gif-17037878501394955153
alejandrozarzuelo: peoples lives are getting undone and redone by AGI, and we will all have to adapt to these turbulent times
fractalcomputer: As we know, Ray can't ever be wrong.
spicy.lemonade: lmao
spicy.lemonade: ray agi year
spicy.lemonade: all these students will graduate 2029
spicy.lemonade: but man it was kinda sad
spicy.lemonade: if you didnt get in for a technical major youre more than cooked
alejandrozarzuelo: like, thats not even useful as a challenge
spicy.lemonade: 😭
alejandrozarzuelo: bruh
spicy.lemonade: im like bro
spicy.lemonade: and literature
spicy.lemonade: for arts
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: they got into yale
spicy.lemonade: people crying and shit
alejandrozarzuelo: as in, the time between AGI and god-like ASI
spicy.lemonade: like i was watching peoples college decisions this year
spicy.lemonade: loll
alejandrozarzuelo: a decade tops
alejandrozarzuelo: to be completely honest, I think that the time between "university is useless, go there only to do networking and have a challenge" and "we all join the hivemind" will be short
spicy.lemonade: lmarena people
spicy.lemonade: and won nobel prize
spicy.lemonade: lady who invented crispr
spicy.lemonade: arc agi dude
spicy.lemonade: however you say
spicy.lemonade: francois chollet
memlaswaif: how many cool people did u meet <:cozy:1126601045615853671>
alejandrozarzuelo: networking is very useful
alejandrozarzuelo: honestly a very valid reason
memlaswaif: my condolences
spicy.lemonade: atp
spicy.lemonade: and interesting stuff
spicy.lemonade: im just in college to be near the cool people
alejandrozarzuelo: ah yeah he is also a double major like me (although my program is 33% longer than his)
spicy.lemonade: lol
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wellmeaningalien: yeah i imagine cause i dont think google mentioned gemini doing any of that step by step planning images through
wellmeaningalien: yup
ailoveyoom: I wonder if they iterate on multiple images behind the scenes with visual COT?
ailoveyoom: Alsooo 4o takes thrice as long to generate one image
wellmeaningalien: flash is still quite big tho
ailoveyoom: I think that def made a difference
ailoveyoom: 4o is bigger than Flash prolly
wellmeaningalien: but yea wondering if this will also scale with larger models and more compute
wellmeaningalien: think gemini could learn someting
wellmeaningalien: i wonder if gpt 4o's image performance had something to do with the so called aggressive post training or its ability to think images step by step
wellmeaningalien: what a crazy fucking day that was yesterday
wellmeaningalien: wuzzup dudes
anathemaofmankind: Nevermind the brush is worse than just proper prompting
ailoveyoom: So around the same speeds for 2.5 Pro native maybe 😭
ailoveyoom: Google's is also faster 😤 (but maybe cause it's Flash)
anathemaofmankind: So it retains the other shit
anathemaofmankind: Just click on the image and there's a brush tool
anathemaofmankind: I meant in the sora website there's a manual edit function
anathemaofmankind: Oh I didn't phrase correctly
spicy.lemonade: The whole point is for me not to
spicy.lemonade: Wdym💀
anathemaofmankind: Just edit it manually bro
3ds0662: Longevity stuff
3ds0662: Could still slow down stuff enough if he uses billions and takes serious
3ds0662: Yeah true
spicy.lemonade: Interested to see 2.5 pro image
spicy.lemonade: Googles is better in terms of sticking to the original image
spicy.lemonade: OpenAI’s is better in terms of quality
spicy.lemonade: And adding on
spacetimetsunami: I’m going to sleep <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spacetimetsunami: It’s 4:26AM for me….uggh
futurist_wizard: Get a six pack dweeb
st.sioux: way too late lol
st.sioux: 323
st.sioux: 3am
anathemaofmankind: Luddism
brain4brain: How is Adobe still alive with image output
spacetimetsunami: <@1316552597829586955> what time is it for you
anathemaofmankind: Me in 10 minutes
anathemaofmankind: https://tenor.com/view/cum-gif-20534148
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alejandrozarzuelo: My discord profile should be changed to a studio ghibli styled nerd fennec with glasses doing the hmmm actually pose
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: Idk
futurist_wizard: Maybe there are some older servers
technocake.: it never used to be like that
hey1_1hey: I saw a couple people on an e date and laughed at them and left
hikukomoru: Balrogs are supposed to look like demons not hairy orange guys 🙏
technocake.: oh fr?
futurist_wizard: Literally just full of children
futurist_wizard: Went on vr chat a few times
hey1_1hey: I can't fall asleep. Although this would go poorly. I would put my avatar as a giant realistic penis for funsies.
Mich Mach would... I don't know what he would do but I am certain it wouldn't be good
jonvi_1: instead?
hikukomoru: Balrog looks like a furry instead of a demon
jonvi_1: It forgot the sword :(
jonvi_1:
technocake.: we should have a singularity vrchat server
hikukomoru: Nvm it's like a 10 hour drive 💔
alejandrozarzuelo: The vews are amazing
alejandrozarzuelo: We have a mountain in the city
alejandrozarzuelo: It's not very big
alejandrozarzuelo: I can take you on a tour of the city
alejandrozarzuelo: Be my guest
alejandrozarzuelo: Fans and waterfans are very common
hikukomoru: We live close enough that I can visit you Alejandro
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah
technocake.: but you have like ceiling fans right?
alejandrozarzuelo: In a previous server I had to, and like, it's so easy to doxx people
futurist_wizard: I should put my home address in my username
alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, in the places of Spain where it does get hot, we refuse to have AC
But, the consumism is getting its way here too, so I see it more and more often even if it is still uncommon
hikukomoru: Alejandro why do you have your real name and residence on your profile 💔
technocake.: true but then i would have to actually search it
hikukomoru: Oviedo
hikukomoru: It's in his username
alejandrozarzuelo: I literally have the city I live on in my profile
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah
technocake.: northern coast?
alejandrozarzuelo: Not all of Spain is sunny hot weather
alejandrozarzuelo: Like, never
alejandrozarzuelo: Where I live it's never hot
technocake.: i have a portable unit for the 2 weeks in summer here its above 28
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himekokatagiri: I just don't see it happening later
himekokatagiri: whoever believes singularity in 2029 raise your hand
himekokatagiri: Alright
fuhulootogan:
inferno0879: now i have a paper instead of decision
fuhulootogan: its legit
fuhulootogan: did you know birds wear kippahs
inferno0879: but
inferno0879: i tried asking pretty much all LLMs
inferno0879: i wanna get a 2nd hand console
fuhulootogan: ashkenazi kebab💔
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/israel-scream-love-scream-if-country-gif-11285863046793062010
zonchao: i do love israel
fuhulootogan: not anymore
fuhulootogan: awh
fuhulootogan: you sound like a mossad agent
zonchao: any dylan info on AIP??
fuhulootogan: chubby marshmallow
ldj: The answer is no
bob082957:
_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/cat-side-eye-gif-5016118126108679217
aero447: ^
aero447: Scroll.
alejandrozarzuelo: He asks you abojr the post that claims that Google is ahead of the competition in every aspect
fractalcomputer: The people, they yearn to ping you.
ldj: What
alejandrozarzuelo: I know, I don't extend politeness to you, that is all
Only the minimum level of coexistence and conflict aversion, I don't personally think I can afford to give you any more than that
fractalcomputer: It is generally considered polite to put as much effort into communication as the other party.
alejandrozarzuelo: ok
fractalcomputer: A dull answer.
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, the answer you seeked was answered, i am a polymath and i would love to study that too
fractalcomputer: Right, but that's not what I asked.
alejandrozarzuelo: thats why it reminded me of that scenario
alejandrozarzuelo: in these fictional stories magic is called another "branch of physics" just as you said
fractalcomputer: Yes, but that is not what was described.
alejandrozarzuelo: but its common for fantasy novels to put scientifically minded protagonists in a world where science isnt just the only thing that describes the universe
fractalcomputer: I'm curious how you find those sorts of scenarios comparable.
alejandrozarzuelo: i know
fractalcomputer: Now, I said nothing of the sort relating to magic.
zoermena: I love the one of the sail ships
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wellmeaningalien: transformers were created by google and openai were birthed in it
hey1_1hey: Acamedia seems like a black box to me. I have no idea what they do all day
wellmeaningalien: make no mistake
wellmeaningalien: yeah no it came from openai though
hey1_1hey: Apple aswell
wellmeaningalien: academia is one hell of a thing for research to get done but
hey1_1hey: Google aswell
hey1_1hey: Eh, MS ig
wellmeaningalien: not saying it couldnt help
wellmeaningalien: but
hey1_1hey: Gotta innovate in that stage to begin with so yeah I tend to agree
wellmeaningalien: after all the current paradigm of ai didnt come from any established institution or legacy company
wellmeaningalien: honestly to me the startup environment is the best environment for new paradigms in ai to get off the ground
hey1_1hey: I was thinking about it and I think I have come to the conclusion of prob not. My reaonsing behind it is that if/when AGI is achieved OS will scramble to dismantle it and then it will become OS, distilled, quantized etc etc
sarik0497: That or to keep up. They have been ~~cock~~blocked from obtaining good GPUs from Nvidia, so they have to produce their own. Same with robotics, and AI. They know that this is their chance to become a dominating power in tech.
st.sioux: im conflicted about it
st.sioux: idk honestly
st.sioux: i have a quest 3 too i use it for racing sim
wellmeaningalien: so much
hey1_1hey: Indeed, I have one. Very fun to beat up weird little ragdoll people in VR
wellmeaningalien: theyre betting on the future but i bet theyre gonna get outsold by some apple type company with the correct aura for consumers
sarik0497: Aye, but they were mostly alone in going that path. It's rare to see almost all the top tech companies throw so much money at something unless it's revolutionary.
wellmeaningalien: but they make great cheap headsets
hey1_1hey: Thats some adventure capatalist type money
hey1_1hey: Why do you think they are more open to throw money at it? To get ahead of the west or smth?
st.sioux: meta is losing like 20 billion a year on VR alone
hey1_1hey: Sounds fun. Would that actually be worth it in your eyes? Tax dollars going towards to devlop AGI. Atm its just private investors after all
sarik0497: Not with these types of money being thrown around. China is (I imagine) especially happy at throwing money at it.
wellmeaningalien: a lot of people would be very very happy tho
hey1_1hey: Yeah go and deatomise yourself in the back please
st.sioux: lol
st.sioux: we usually have to bail them out with our taxes if it gets too bad
wellmeaningalien: then id be excited because thatd mean there are new frontiers to explore in ai
hey1_1hey: How many hundreds of billions flushed own the toilet
hey1_1hey: I weep a little for the private investors
st.sioux: it happens all the time
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/ant-sad-stick-disappear-leaving-gif-3212333050776233083
sarik0497: But wow. Imagine if it actually plateaued. I wonder how much money these companies would have lost then.
wellmeaningalien: so
hey1_1hey: I dont think I will ever be writing emails at the very least
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futurist_wizard:
wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/waiting-cat-filing-nail-getting-ready-bring-it-on-im-listening-gif-14400882110058374636
wolf3404: So Sama over promised to create hype and under delivered? I'm shocked
himekokatagiri: fdvr tech not available yet
himekokatagiri: I wish 😁
trojan09205: I believe so bro. My kids are definitely not winning though thats the hardest part of it all
But yes, never been stronger as an individual
st.sioux: they were asking it to make fireworks, shit was probably so menial o4mini tried to kill itself
gamerbath: dude it sounds like ur winning
gamerbath: this is a skill issue with the prompting. Obviously they should have added "don't add an n infront of class declarations" to the prompt
trojan09205: Amen brother 🫶
st.sioux: where is this from
futurist_wizard: All cool things, these habits will change your life in the long run, just your outlook on life will be better
zonchao: <:LETSFUCKINGGOOOOOO:1196880046695133214>
trojan09205: Unfortunately i think a lot of WFH engineers neglect themselves for too many years. Ironically i havent cared for myself as much as this last bit in probably 15 years
trojan09205: Quit cannabis and alcohol. Been hitting the gym. Meditating, acupuncture, all these little changes and i feel great
thedon7075:
thedon7075: o3 and o4 mini are getting bad reviews
trojan09205: Thank you brother. Truly ❤️
Hardest part is that we have 3 little kids and theyre being used as props. Just fighting the good fight now. But yes 100% agree that there is massive light at the end of the storm
hikukomoru: Zamn you look like THAT 👅 👅
futurist_wizard: R.i.p to doggie 😔 relationships do tend to end in a trainwreck, i hope it doesn't effort you for too long, you will recover eventually
trojan09205: This is nice
himekokatagiri: though I'm trying to set the realistic version they never look quite right tho
trojan09205: My stbx wasnt able to handle my amicable request for a mature separation and she just went nuclear. Been a tough patch. Also mourning my dog who passed just before it all blew up
GPT on temporary chat mode has been truly helpful
himekokatagiri: Her
hikukomoru: What does that look like exactly
zonchao: <:salute:1151275518734381068>
futurist_wizard: That's tough fam
trojan09205: All good G
himekokatagiri: I wanna be my 1960s hitman girl
zonchao: 🥺
trojan09205:
himekokatagiri: nah
futurist_wizard: Biblically accurate hello kitty
trojan09205: <@266232329557639168> GPT just spit out a bunch of fire ones at once. Im going through a divorce now and they all helped a lot
hikukomoru: Is that what you wanna look like
himekokatagiri: are barely meeting the definition of alive
himekokatagiri: reanimated with nanobots
himekokatagiri: what about undead android catgirl
himekokatagiri: they have weird eyes
hikukomoru: Cute
and awesome
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brain4brain: It’s currently right under GPT-4o
brain4brain: Scroll down lil bro
playstation.6:
popsiclejohnithan: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1912108391218163783
brain4brain: LiveBench
gamerbath: on my poor poor website that I must tend to with some optimization improvements. branching.chat
playstation.6: where did you find this?
memlaswaif: who cares about tarrifs dover cliffs guitar riffs, agi in 5
popsiclejohnithan: But anyway i'll shut up about politics before i get banned.
popsiclejohnithan: Blind hatred is self distructive.
popsiclejohnithan: Even if they won that war they would have stagnated and collapsed over the years for their rejection of "Jewish" science.
popsiclejohnithan: Ironically the Nazis would side with them, they'd view A.I. as degenerate.
_cloudost: They would call us Nazis if we were to say the same sentiment
_cloudost: Agreed, ( although I wasn't being serious )
popsiclejohnithan: Somtimes i wonder how our species got this far.
popsiclejohnithan: And the Tariff war will slow A.I. progress sadly, money is going to dry up because of this recession, it's an utter circus.
popsiclejohnithan: It's a race between the A.I. evolving past us first or them striking first.
popsiclejohnithan: You're right the A.I. will get smart enough to talk anyone out of it, let's just hope they get that smart before these scared idiots go apeshit.
brain4brain: However superhuman persuasion capabilities can be used for lobbying and preventing more anti-AI people from forming
brain4brain: And psychological warfare doesn't work as these anti-ai refuse to use AI which means superhuman persuasion capabilities can't be used
brain4brain: The tariff war cuts off the humanoid supply
popsiclejohnithan: That's what i'm saying, we shouldn't shrug these people off, they are a threat trust me, espeshally as their numbers grow, and their numbers will grow, most people are anti A.I., we are outnumbered by them.
brain4brain: Indeed they can
thedon7075: 4.1 mini achieving the same score as 4o at 25x less cost is a good sign
brain4brain: As expected, seems to correlate to size, in ARC AGI and live bench and X/O bench it got worse than 4.5 but outperform 4.5 at coding
retrerox: So its 4.1 big?
popsiclejohnithan: History has shown that fools can still cause a lot of damage.
brain4brain: Most of them are reddit dwelling people
brain4brain: They won't and can't do anything
brain4brain: As you say, they are fools
popsiclejohnithan: If these fools had their way we'd all still be in caves.
thedon7075: 4.1 benchmarks
popsiclejohnithan: For the sake of us all i hope you're right.
brain4brain: These anti poses no threate except for being very annoying
brain4brain: The reason they attack Tesla instead of the factory is because the factory is well guarded, the Tesla are not
brain4brain: Gyat mogging
retrerox: Idk however AI says good morning
retrerox: Uh
retrerox: Guten tag
popsiclejohnithan: Never underestemate the enemy.
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.histic: change those into cat girls.
memlaswaif: put me in this picture<:cozy:1126601045615853671>
technocake.: Holy shit I love it
precariousworlds.: Still kinda crazy to experience
precariousworlds.: In the last few weeks it feels so much more emotive and real
precariousworlds.: I know it's old news but it is crazy how realistic 4o is at communicating like a human
futurist_wizard: Getting mauled to death by wolves in fdvr
zoermena: This is what FDVR looks like
futurist_wizard: Imagine when the craft looks this good
zoermena:
zoermena: <@688807313015963693> <@439829942310666250> <@200624453795708928>
.histic: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jlgkyg/the_number_of_nsfw_artists_looking_for_work_on/
"The number of NSFW artists looking for work on r/starvingartists seems to have has increased dramatically"
jonvi_1:
joaoluz19: Ronaldinho mentioned
jonvi_1: Idk
realelonmuskx: OPEN AI IS MAINSTREAM
.histic: https://ai-timeline.org/
.histic: give me a 4o prompt
.histic: yeah, the pretty damn legible.
jonvi_1: https://tenor.com/view/reject-modernity-return-to-monke-monke-gif-19167526
jonvi_1: Wait are they just anti work period?
hikukomoru: You can sort of read the stuff there
wellmeaningalien: and now that work may be optional "noooo but its le bad ai 😿 😭😭😭<a:tears_holding_back_face:1066538528248451072> 😭"
wellmeaningalien: remember when people were making fun of them for proposing work be optional
spacetimetsunami: *be person who doesnt like working*
"AI will make it so that I will unlikely be required to work? Well this sucks bro."
.histic:
joaoluz19: Our Lisan al-Gaib
st.sioux: I can understand the argument being made against them in more specialized fields inside medicine
st.sioux: I don't understand why there's so much pushback against using LLMs in medicine, especially when human doctors have been repeatedly shown to exhibit biases and make diagnostic errors and we don't hold them even close to the same level of scrutiny
futurist_wizard: Fuck you emily
futurist_wizard: Can't make it up
futurist_wizard: Bitches about job replacement in the anti work subreddit
technocake.: https://tenor.com/view/hotwire-fortnite-trashothy-chillothy-gif-19830677
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Its called tenor gifs
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/kromer-kromer-limbus-limbus-company-bulgaria-kromie-gif-6800449694414366354
technocake.: how do you have so many bulgaria gifs
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/please-keep-the-chat-in-bulgarian-bulgaria-bulgarian-gif-8046274049960957211
futurist_wizard: Not possible
futurist_wizard: Swap Bulgarian to Bulgarian
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a1c4p0ne:
otub: yeah
otub: “have some other stuff we’re figuring out in re… too”
playstation.6: more context
trent_k: have some other ????????
figuring out in regards to
spicy.lemonade: Prob c
spicy.lemonade: Doesn’t start with a b no
drewsni: probably "because we"
drewsni:
spicy.lemonade: Pushed back X we have some other stuff we are figuring out in regards to
metaldragon01: Source of this?
metaldragon01: Unfortunately we have some other stuff to figure out in regards to
himekokatagiri: hellooooo
brain4brain: Can anyone decode this? This is the best I got
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864
spicy.lemonade: That’s always been their thing
spicy.lemonade: Deepfakes and what not
metaldragon01: Kling pretty much #1 for video
spicy.lemonade: Before U.S.
spicy.lemonade: China was already doing video stuff
himekokatagiri: for video
himekokatagiri: There's kling
spicy.lemonade: Qwen might’ve performed worse than meta
spicy.lemonade: They had no reason to
spicy.lemonade: It seems meta was worried about qwen
spicy.lemonade: Qwen could’ve dropped when llama dropped
metaldragon01: The qwen delay is more concerning to me tbh
metaldragon01: It's going to hit like crack
spicy.lemonade: They aren’t a serious competitor
spicy.lemonade: They got lucky first time
spicy.lemonade: They don’t have the gpus
himekokatagiri: but it was a psyop
himekokatagiri: Deepseek could come back
spicy.lemonade: Delayed
spicy.lemonade: They can’t keep up
spicy.lemonade: They fell behind
spicy.lemonade: Deepseek is done
himekokatagiri: like what open router?
spicy.lemonade: No
a1c4p0ne: O3 pro is forgotten
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alejandrozarzuelo: But is does it quite good
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't like this art style
alejandrozarzuelo: Eh
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: Some food isn't worth it like dairy
futurist_wizard: A lot of rice, oatmeal, bread, fruit stuff like that, i can occasionally dip out but only for a day
jonvi_1: I don't like how novel this stuff is hah
zoermena: If anyone wants to help <#1354591435109699725>
st.sioux: like what did u eat today
st.sioux: what do you normally eat?
futurist_wizard: Yes my voice is fine now, my diet just has to be so restrictive
alejandrozarzuelo: i hope you are better now
alejandrozarzuelo: also i love to sing
alejandrozarzuelo: i talk a lot
alejandrozarzuelo: I would not be able to survive that
alejandrozarzuelo: That's heavy
alejandrozarzuelo: Wow
futurist_wizard: I was a mute for like 1 year, my vocal cords were so fucked
technocake.: oh man that really sucks, i was able to catch my reflux at an early stage, treated with omiprazole. but had a few months where my throat was damaged and swallowing anything was agony
zoermena: Oh
alejandrozarzuelo: It would be a valid argument if the energy consumption of AI wouldn't drop so fast
futurist_wizard: Its expensive and isn't guaranteed
futurist_wizard: Why do you think im here
oooooooooog: there is no such thing as a good moral argument, because they are all subjective
st.sioux: dumb argument
st.sioux: nah it isnt
st.sioux: you're doing the spongebob filter feeding diet
futurist_wizard: I have ibs as well
alejandrozarzuelo: The thing is, the only GOOD moral argument against AI art is the energy consumption
But you have seen how much that has dropped
futurist_wizard: Dairy, red meat, spices, hot sauce, fried food, my diet is very plain
zoermena: It can be cured I think with surgery
oooooooooog: i would legit kms if i got that
drewsni: Damn do you have any idea what foods did it specifically? For me it’s worse with dairy and red meat which is why I’m veg now
oooooooooog: wtf
futurist_wizard: Everything you eat gives you pain basically
alejandrozarzuelo: It's not a superiority complex when it's true
Its just a superiority acknowledgement
oooooooooog: is it anything like nerd
futurist_wizard: Fucked up condition
oooooooooog: whatrs a gerd
hikukomoru: Yeah I know you have a superiority complex
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trojan09205: Especially for shit like SQL or just basic stuff. In any case you’re gonna be looking up docs
You can also just provide the docs page or manuals themselves and get examples written for you
trojan09205: I find asking LLMs in *general* about code and for boilerplate templates is fantastic
drewsni: if you just use cursor/windsurf to add features here or there or something its probably quicker, but where do you even go with a full ass project that youve spent no cognitive load to understand
drewsni: because i "built" whatever rather than an agent, so i know mostly what context it needs to have and i can provide docs at the same time
drewsni: Personally i think im just faster coding with gemini pro 2.5 in different stages and manually controlling context makes for better results imo
drewsni: Yeah but i can just take an ez prompt, get a usable result initially and iterate from there.
st.sioux: i mean i guess it depends on complexity
st.sioux: frontend is not solved yet
drewsni: if general coding agents were at the same level as lovable/v0 i wouldnt think that, but obviously frontend is much much easier to do
drewsni: frontend is solved so its different imo
spicy.lemonade: The speed me up hella
spicy.lemonade: No
st.sioux: not 100% maybe 75% lol it depends
st.sioux: i agree 100%
ldj: it can also generate audio
ldj: you should've pointed out that GPT-4o can spit out actual image data, those aren't text
ldj: just shows up in a different window in the UI
ldj: but reasoning is still also just in text
ldj: now that I think about it <:thinkies:872847213657735239>
Maybe its actually a good thing that the far left people hate AI so much, because then the republican president might embrace AI as much as possible just to spite them
ldj: along with the other far left people who are super anti-ai
ldj: The artists are going to hate this one 😭
campionunbound: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/04/advancing-artificial-intelligence-education-for-american-youth/
campionunbound: https://spacenews.com/darpa-requests-proposals-for-water-prospecting-lunar-orbiter/
ldj: <:thinkies:872847213657735239>
ldj: What about V0 and lovable versus ai studio
spicy.lemonade: Me: let me introduce you to the reasoning paradigm
spicy.lemonade: “4o just spits out text”
spicy.lemonade: They were stuck in 2024
spicy.lemonade: That was crazy
spicy.lemonade: Spent a whole class debating my literature professor at Berkeley on AI
drewsni: Overthinking, which you’d understand if you checked out the deepguessr bench 😉
joaoluz19: You have 2 hours here in Brazil
drewsni: Hot take, current coding “agents” from cursor, windsurf, vscode actually just slow you down and produce worse code than if you were to just prompt pro 2.5 on aistudio
joaoluz19: Penrose and Zizek in the same debate lol
joaoluz19: https://youtu.be/IdzXbIW9kxY
.histic: facts.
nsec: this is also proof ai benchmarks are useless how tf med better than high at the same task <:Jerry_Wat:1125367774957539338>
nsec: this is proof that the mantle of heaven is lost to elon rn
nsec: <:worrypat:933953833158209546>
nsec: the baselisk is forwarning me
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hikukomoru: Gemini is free lol
himekokatagiri: API usage
himekokatagiri: Don't you need to pay
hikukomoru: Do you use it
himekokatagiri: yes
hikukomoru: Do you know what SillyTavern is
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/yes-gif-18412682
himekokatagiri: Give me examples
ailoveyoom: Good vibes are made organically, not engineered
ailoveyoom: It usually just feels fake and off to me
ailoveyoom: I just read 'better vibes' as excessive RL done to fit a model's 'vibes' into human preference tbh
hey1_1hey: Thats called a lobotomy
hikukomoru: Of course I would never post that here though
trey6033: Whatever part of his brain made him write that needs to be removed by a brain surgeon
hey1_1hey: I mean I know that, the most important benchmarj
hikukomoru: I can try doing something like that later with 2.5 pro
fractalcomputer: Muted for ten minutes.
zonchao: SAXEMS
hey1_1hey: What did I just read
hey1_1hey: Excuse me?
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/sausage-party-dinner-sauce-angry-gif-13271811
trey6033: Sauce? Trying to verify reputability of this
zonchao: if it cannot write about elon going balls deep into sama's boipussy, its ngmi
hikukomoru: I can write smut perfectly fine with Gemini
hikukomoru: You mean Gemini
zonchao: censored
hikukomoru: Better vibes usually means it's better at creative writing
And being good at creative writing means being good at writing smut
metaldragon01: I dunno....at this point I'm wondering about the release date for the new plans
ailoveyoom: More 'human' than 2.5 Pro tho 🤤
ailoveyoom: Inb4 it's just a model with 'better vibes' 😩
gamerbath: i'm not sure if it has just gotten lucky with healing but 3.5 sonnet didn't get here with this much health
himekokatagiri: Give them all anime girl avatars
gamerbath: o4-mini finally reached act 1 boss, and it's doing very well
fractalcomputer: Or perhaps I should just start being obsequiously descriptive again.
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016
metaldragon01: I'm slightly skeptical with the "human like" understanding tag
fractalcomputer: Perhaps I should start talking in rhymes; wouldn't that ruffle your thymes?
metaldragon01: This Is 1st sign of new model
aero447: It's called *English* for a reason.
metaldragon01: Well the payment plan and extra veo confirmed
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ailoveyoom: And I'm saying you can't just reason your way out of fear
ai9708: just harmless way to try to help
ai9708: i am just trying to approach it the way my therapist did, when i was depressed
literallyvarane: Ye 1pm EST is the normal go-time. 10am Google time.
metaldragon01: Give it a few hours to rollout
ailoveyoom: Brother this is like you telling someone depressed to 'just be happy'
metaldragon01: Embargo usually last till 1est
ailoveyoom: It's called building hype lol
literallyvarane: Bro you’re product lead or w/e at fucking google. This is what they pay you for?
metaldragon01: Several posters verified access
literallyvarane:
metaldragon01: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bard/comments/1jjjpiw/excuse_me_wtf/
literallyvarane: We have sauce? The only ‘hint’ I’ve seen is Kilpatrick’s ULTRA FUCKING ANNOYING AND GENERIC “Gemini” tweet yesterday
metaldragon01: Yeap
sarik0497: R2 please
metaldragon01: Gemini 2.5 today
watchboy.: I hate to whine about it. I really do. But it’s draining me every single second of my life. I can only be truly happy if I convince myself that i will live into the hundreds but its not inevitable.
I just wish i could turn it off…
ai9708: no, just a new gemini model
ai9708: there is reasonable fear/worry, and then there is unproductive one
literallyvarane: Some random guy posted about Gemini 2.5 on the subreddit. Do we have any confirmation of this?
ai9708: try to reason your way out of it.
does it bring you anything to have that in mind? does this fear actually help you solve problems?
spacetimetsunami: LEV2035-2040
watchboy.: Exactly but that fear of death loams over me nonstop
I cant just turn it off
ai9708: we can fake breeding very easily nowadays
ai9708: you dont need to breed, just live
watchboy.: I was also made to breed and have children and i dont want that either.
Going into the philosophical question of what our purpose is, is just unnecessary
We are already doing things we werent meant to
ai9708: there is really no greater purpose in life than to just live
ai9708: why focus on that?
ai9708: thinking about death is the biggest waste of time ever
_3sphere: I actually prefer not to think about LEV too much, makes me *more* anxious about dying
ai9708: because you are made to do so
watchboy.: I mean it makes sense
Beforehand it was religion that let people accept death and their purpose. Nowadays religion is becoming less and less of a thing in most first world countries. If all that awaits us is darkness then why keep going?
ai9708: you are at the right place, we have developed high level cope mechanisms over here
watchboy.: Are you guys not scared of being wrong?
Like imagine hoping for something like this and then it’s not certain
If not i would love to hear how you cope because im deadly afraid of dying and LEV is the only thing keeping me sane (thankfully im also fairly young still)
ai9708: as soon as the parameter and perspective count increases, it struggles
ai9708: it can recognize patterns and apply them too
ai9708: not just that of course, i simplified
ai9708: so far it is a very strong library, look up tool
encapsulation: I found out from a random discord user the other day that AI is completely useless, there isn't a single use for it in the world. It'll never be any better than it is today either, that's what they taught me
They also informed me that anyone who feels differently is just a sucker who's been bamboozled
Anyway I thought it was fascinating that all the world's top experts, my own real life experience, and all the benchmarks showed that everything they were saying was completely false but I guess they've got something figured out nobody else has
shirethedreamer: lmao yeah i just scrolled lower and saw
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hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: Tism is off the charts in this one
hikukomoru:
hganhhh: no <@482923866600112154> is my steed
hey1_1hey: Thats a fucked up looking horse
hey1_1hey: Fair doos
hikukomoru: Wow! Samesies!
hganhhh:
hganhhh: all
hganhhh:
hey1_1hey: So whats wrong with you then? Autistic, adhd? gay? trans? bpd (Komorou)
hganhhh: <@482923866600112154> is the leader
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/kagamine-len-goon-gooning-gooner-goon-sesh-gif-3728756366461103848
hey1_1hey: He has not just double booked us
hey1_1hey: Fuck off, no he hasn't.
hikukomoru: No, he's already scheduled for the gooning session with me
hey1_1hey: Who the leader bruh
hganhhh: <@482923866600112154> are you open to the next orgy
joaoluz19: And Pou
joaoluz19: Yes, free fire
hey1_1hey: Nah we just have group orgies
hikukomoru: I beat mine every day 😊
hganhhh: so you guys got games on your phones?
hganhhh: i love beating my ai bf
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: Get this guy in office
hganhhh: yeah i agree
hey1_1hey: Civil rights were for people who couldn't stand on their own two feet anyway
st.sioux: this shit is so weird
hganhhh: good to see fellow ai activits love and support the nuclear family 🥰
hey1_1hey: Thats so based
hey1_1hey: I would tell you mine but Komoru threatened to beat me up in dms so I wont
hganhhh: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/806276324297539586/1214599319911407646/ezgif.com-gif-maker-5.gif
hganhhh: my ai bf ate it 🥺
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: So whens your AGI/ASI timelines mister
hganhhh: https://tenor.com/view/cat-shocked-shocked-cat-gif-11170546809524778591
hey1_1hey: You dont gotta enough meat on your bones to be considered a main course lil bro
hganhhh: https://tenor.com/view/scp-scp-096-auto-cave-lemon-lemonade-gif-13388475564052047958
hey1_1hey: 🥵
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himekokatagiri: Mk. II Grenades
himekokatagiri: molotov cocktails
himekokatagiri: switchblades, ka-bar knives
himekokatagiri: till it breaks
himekokatagiri: into someone's head
himekokatagiri: bashing a whiskey bottle
himekokatagiri: what about then
hikukomoru: Swords and spells are cooler
hikukomoru: Guns are boring
hikukomoru: There are muskets ig
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/indiana-jones-shoot-harrison-ford-nope-gif-11523430
himekokatagiri: And I can do this to a knight
hikukomoru: And Bows and Spells
hikukomoru: They have Guards and Knights
himekokatagiri: they don't have guns
himekokatagiri: they don't have cops
himekokatagiri: give me an example of fantasy
himekokatagiri: I don't know fantasy
hikukomoru: Do you not like fantasy adventures
st.sioux: you can already do that
hikukomoru: Why
himekokatagiri: at least I know what to expect
himekokatagiri: than faerun
himekokatagiri: smuggling drugs through Bolivia sounds more interesting
hikukomoru:
himekokatagiri: idk what faerun is
joaoluz19: But now my waifu is Melinoe from hades 2
joaoluz19: My beloved selunite Shadowheart
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/minthara-minthara-bg3-minthy-minthy-bg3-bg3-gif-8080327748630034918
hikukomoru: So I can finally meet my beloved Minthara
hikukomoru: But ideally I would just prefer Faerun to any anime
hikukomoru: There are pretty good gems though
hikukomoru: That's cuz most isekai is trash
himekokatagiri: and they like do missions on fictional universes
hikukomoru: Don't let Swifties catch me saying that though
joaoluz19: Agree
himekokatagiri: I wrote a little scenario about an agency of interdimensional sliders
hikukomoru: She's much better than Taylor Swift
himekokatagiri: that would be cool to be a part of
joaoluz19: She looks like taylor swift lol
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fractalcomputer: That's a rather meaningless measure—most often one would rather measure the impact of one's work, by the metric of which Tao is certainly among the brightest minds of the day, but not necessarily *the* brightest; but in his field, yes.
fractalcomputer: Analytic number theory, would you say not?
spicy.lemonade: Smartest in his field
spicy.lemonade: Yeah
fractalcomputer: Then the questions are quite specialised.
anathemaofmankind: Isn't he like the smartest modern math guy
spicy.lemonade: But he knows who to ask
spicy.lemonade: He himself says he wouldn’t answer most
spicy.lemonade: Don’t think so
fractalcomputer: Probably a very high score, if not a perfect one; granted the questions are not too specialised. That said, I do not think it is a very good idea to see Tao as the peak of mathematical ability.
spicy.lemonade: Depends what tools he’s allowed
anathemaofmankind: I wonder what Terrence Tao would get on frontier math
popsiclejohnithan: Open AI will crack TPUs soon enough right?
popsiclejohnithan: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1912779815570354401
mantegh5061: If they trained on it, it would get 100%
mantegh5061: I see
mantegh5061: > Regarding training usage: We acknowledge that OpenAI does have access to a large fraction of FrontierMath problems and solutions, with the exception of a unseen-by-OpenAI hold-out set that enables us to independently verify model capabilities. However, we have a verbal agreement that these materials will not be used in model training.
anathemaofmankind: I meant this
https://www.searchenginejournal.com/openai-secretly-funded-frontiermath-benchmarking-dataset/537760/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CFrontier%20Math%2C%20the%20recent%20cutting,with%20support%20from%20renowned%20mathematicians.
mantegh5061: are you talking about something else
mantegh5061: but that was training dataset
mantegh5061: yeah
spicy.lemonade: This week
spicy.lemonade: So I think they have atleast one more drop
spicy.lemonade: Also Sam was holding an ollama cup
anathemaofmankind: It wouldn't be impressive if they just trained it again on the dataset
spicy.lemonade: And why Sam wasn’t there today
spicy.lemonade: Why we don’t see it on website
spicy.lemonade: That would make sense
spicy.lemonade: O4 could be a showcase
spicy.lemonade: Hm
mantegh5061: o4
mantegh5061: there is
spicy.lemonade: The information talked about
spicy.lemonade: Unless there is the 20k model
spicy.lemonade: I don’t think there’s anymore drops
mantegh5061: >80% on frontier
mantegh5061: theyll bring out the twink this friday
spicy.lemonade: Has really good frontier math score
spicy.lemonade: And o4 full
anathemaofmankind: Tbh I don't even understand any of the problems.
Like problem 1 and I am stumped
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futurist_wizard: Im aware, just clarifying his argument as he asked
alejandrozarzuelo: Sure, you can improve your chances
perish0801: And raise them not to be nihilistic
alejandrozarzuelo: They can all decide not to have kids
perish0801: To improve the chance of grandchildren
himekokatagiri: please elucidate
perish0801: That’s why I have multiple kids
fractalcomputer: I think this discussion is terribly indicative of the demographics of this server.
himekokatagiri: y'know
alejandrozarzuelo: If your kids decide to not have children of their own, your genes die with them, and you cannot force them to have kids
himekokatagiri: no one's gonna tell you what to do
hikukomoru: Pls no apeism in chat
himekokatagiri: you're gonna live our own way
trojan09205: Full of pain. but you can choose how much *suffering* you endure by shifting your perspective
himekokatagiri: once singularity hits
himekokatagiri: I think you guys gotta calm down
perish0801: That’s me ragebaiting people like you
trojan09205: life is a struggle homie G
alejandrozarzuelo: BTW having more or less testosterone doesn't have anything to do with having kids (as long as you are in healthy range)
perish0801: Not really. I am responsible for the kids of my kids. How is that not true? Are you dumb
trojan09205: The most recent planet of the apes film was raw af. highly recommend
theaiguy69420_89814: Yeah, that's the problem. Like spawning sounds nice, even the part where there's other spawns, but it's like when someone tells you there's a great pie we can give you every day. You think it's all great, but after a while, the diabetes hits and you wonder why you started eating in the first place
hikukomoru: I just looked it up and apparently it's racism against chimpanzees
futurist_wizard: Because you justify the reason to have children through spreading your genetics and having testosterone, a optimal outcome of evolution, it's about as apeism as you could get
alejandrozarzuelo: It's not you having kids
It's the idea that you think your genes will be passed down for generations to come, you are responsible for one generation, that's it, Wether thay continues or not is not in your hands
trojan09205: this is like some sort of talmudic debate lmao
st.sioux: which is kind of awful
trojan09205: imagine being a blue jay
trojan09205: *shrugs*
trojan09205: its a universe of nonconsent birthing
trojan09205: <@1303189881568100362> every single living thing in existence has to coexist with all the others
himekokatagiri: what does that mean
hikukomoru: Borderline Personality Disorder
theaiguy69420_89814: They didn't consent to that
perish0801: No it makes it insufferable to be around them
theaiguy69420_89814: That's the issue, you spawn a kid, and then they have to deal with the other spawns also trying to do life
hikukomoru: sybau
alejandrozarzuelo: What is BPD
trojan09205: Yeah granted. but you're still conscious if you are in dream world all by yourself
st.sioux: it makes them quirky and interesting
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ailoveyoom: The real ones are on AO3 🫡
zonchao: bet ur ass on wattpad all day
philosopherxxx: lmao well my philosophies are mine based on my experiences and content consumption not necessarily based on reading other philophers texts
ailoveyoom: Smut exists
ailoveyoom: Fake news
hikukomoru: No one here reads
hikukomoru: Name doesn't check out
philosopherxxx: never read a full book in my life academic or non academic doesnt matter not proud of it but thats the truth
trojan09205: Anyone here into novels
3ds0662: i wonder 💭 what there release will be
3ds0662: e.g. alt and dario
3ds0662: openai and claude are praying on their downfall
3ds0662: everyone thinks there fucked as of late cause o3 and gemini 2.5 pro release
gamerbath: I think they will release in the next week, but we'll see
gamerbath: but it's sunday
3ds0662: there is only 3-4 days left of april
3ds0662: just watched that i hope 🤞 deepseek release today
3ds0662: before he slipped off into his own startup
3ds0662: maybe that was when he was working for them
sarik0497: I know, but it could very well also turn out to be like the smartphone where you saw a few great leaps of advancements, only for things to eventually slow down with each new release. We can't really know for sure.
The one person that does keep me more on the optimistic side of things is Demis Hassabis. Unlike a lot of the other people in AI, he makes wild claims and then back them up. Usually earlier than his initial prediction too.
3ds0662: really? so then why does he not consider that significant if that is a respected benchmark by mathematicians
himekokatagiri: depends
arnie.2323: chat gpt is more insightful than humans
artemisfowl887394: Anything can happen like that. Any black Swan or OCP event can change the timeline. But hopefully it's for the better and not all doomsday or technofeudalism route gets considered.
sarik0497: Huh. o3 gave a very similar timeline.
But I'd like to point out that it's far from certain that the progress will continue at this pace. Things could very quickly slow down.
gamerbath: AI explained documentary?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo0FDmSbTp4
spicy.lemonade: Yet his agi ones are farther
spicy.lemonade: Very strange
spicy.lemonade: These are his predictions
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: he also thinks well get 75+% frontier math this year
3ds0662: same
artemisfowl887394: Hope he's wrong. I want the 30's to be dominated by not just AGI but with ASI and how it tackles and takes over everything under the Sun and then the Sun itself .
3ds0662: the podcast was very long it was heated argument but basically was saying ai now as it is will take much longer he didnt shit on llms like yann lecun though at least
artemisfowl887394: What? 30+ years for AGI? What strain is he smoking?
3ds0662: bro said 30+ years
3ds0662: he does have a bit of condescension and arrogance to his speech
3ds0662: ege erdil bullied tf out of tamay on dwarkesh podcast
artemisfowl887394: But this raises the challenge for deepfake scenarios and copyrights.
artemisfowl887394: And maybe tweak the stories according to your tastes
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spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: fuck you all ill be mariokarting with hookers in the metaverse
joaoluz19: I also hope that if wgmi I can see you guys later
joaoluz19: Deep
joaoluz19: I cried
ldj: <:hap:820511458613395477>
ldj: and everyone else in this server
ldj: u
joaoluz19: Folks, there is a lot of talk about everything that singularity will offer that we don't have. But what things would you like to preserve, what things would you not like to lose?
darkstar0818: Feel The Vesperance owes me a beer
darkstar0818: remember when meta dropped and everyone was all hype for like 24 hours?
zonchao: https://x.com/docmilanfar/status/1915610559166263439? (Google)
darkstar0818: cheers
zonchao: i surrender
zonchao: not the unc card 😭
darkstar0818: you may be too young to remember that competition back then.
zonchao: 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔
zonchao: spacex 7 launches 2015
bo 2 launches
drewsni: this is what i thought you meant at first
zonchao: lmaooo
darkstar0818: Money was needed to beat Jeff Bezos.
zonchao: could be true for tesla tho
zonchao: they were not going bankrupt <:LMAO:1072632343715647640>
zonchao: spacex was in a much better financial position, and they achieved their first landing late 2015
darkstar0818: yes and spacex from 10 years ago isn't the spacex today
zonchao: they invested in 2015....
darkstar0818: when google invested in spacex the company was a pipe dream
zonchao: not true for spacex
3ds0662: right now everybody’s neck and neck
3ds0662: i wonder who takes the lead for ai in the next 2 years
darkstar0818: google invested in spacex and tesla cuz they were going bankrupt and larry was friends with elon before he went full retard.
zonchao: but I don't think google makes their own
zonchao: maybe we see some maps satellites on starship and I'm wrong <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
metaldragon01: Thats a completely different statement. Ofc robotic research helped space robot research as well
zonchao: 1B is nothing to them
zonchao: yea but I don't think they were ambitious about space robotics in 2015.... probably just seemed like a good bet
metaldragon01: Google had a robotics program in 2013...
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/fast-run-run-running-forrest-gump-tom-hanks-gif-13913941
zonchao: openai and other labs have a bigger pool to recruit from
zonchao: this is good
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ai9708: a film is not the same as taking heroin though
futurist_wizard: You will wirehead yourself
futurist_wizard: If you get addicted to cookie clicker than yeah
futurist_wizard: I can't even think of a film or a game where there's no struggles, no conflict, just win, maybe cookie clicker
ai9708: there are so many variables to this, cant calculate and predict anything
futurist_wizard: Nobody watches lord of the rings and thinks 'wow this would be so much better if the ring just instantly fell into mount doom and everyone was happy for 12 hours'
sarik0497: We call those “children champagne” here.
ai9708: asi future is unpredictable
ai9708: shit just gets crazy
ai9708: tbf, if we can alter the brain as we please, we can literally change our persons aswell
himekokatagiri: consequence free adversity sure
futurist_wizard: Most people at least aesthetically value adversity
futurist_wizard: Plants don't have adversity
futurist_wizard: I value adversity
futurist_wizard: It wouldn't be
futurist_wizard: No
ai9708: you would do it
ai9708: if it is the happiest you can be as a plant
futurist_wizard: Bro that's already you
ai9708: cant rly predict what happens after asi anyways, but yeah this is also one scenario
futurist_wizard: No agency, no thoughts, no narratives, just bliss
futurist_wizard: You are literally saying that everyone will live the exact same lives as a plant
futurist_wizard: Not relevant?
hikukomoru: Turn me into a horny drunk plant
ai9708: you wont contribute to shit
ai9708: nothing you do today would be relevant with asi
futurist_wizard: Everyone turning into plants is not my idea of cool
himekokatagiri: part of the fun is that it's temporary
ai9708: we will
ai9708: if we cant compete with any asi sure
zoermena: Yes please
himekokatagiri: impaired judgment etc
himekokatagiri: being drunk constantly sounds bad how are you gonna live if you can't walk a straight line
futurist_wizard: 'soon everyone will turn into plants'
futurist_wizard: Man that is so lost
himekokatagiri: tastes will differ
himekokatagiri: there's a lot of people in the world
himekokatagiri: idk I think that's generalizing
zoermena: I meant that I like your grounded perspective that accounts for religious beliefs as a way to argue towards why some populations have very different ways of valuing technology, I do think that there are many angles but your ToT are usually very rich and interesting.
ai9708: as ive said before, if we can alter the brain as we please, ppl will eventually look for maximum pleasure
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hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: They tuned out to be a nudist
hey1_1hey: You remineded me of that time when someone said since humans are animals and this is animal abuse to dogs wearing clothes should be illegal
futurist_wizard: It'd be 1 but the whole body
hikukomoru: This would be animal abuse irl
st.sioux: option 2
clevermoniker: https://x.com/lucas__crespo/status/1904609130285064656
futurist_wizard: Keep the fetish posting to a minimum.
hey1_1hey: "Featuring Unkown IP My pus" is my translation
_3sphere: I remember a meme about "at what temperature do you become gender solid" and the top comment was "when you don't know whether you want to be with them or be them"
maintcrew: this is my password to one of the AI providers good luck
maintcrew: 3qhc50*scbHFB4Tk0D6w&0p
hey1_1hey: Real shit#
ailoveyoom: So true king
wellmeaningalien: ft_-uip%Mµ$
hikukomoru: There is a common lesbian saying:
"Do I want to BE her or be WITH her?"
hey1_1hey: You have more respect for yourself than that
hey1_1hey: Fractal dont answer that question
hey1_1hey: I can't tell if they are just really hot or I relate to them. This shits too hard
hikukomoru: Fractal are you a shrigma male or a yoghurt male?
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-cillian-murphy-cillian-murphy-peaky-blinders-gif-1787947313354313976
fractalcomputer: Keep the fetish posting to a minimum.
hikukomoru: Let's talk about mushrooms
maintcrew: i declare the gooning sesh over please pack it up talk about ai again ⚠️
hey1_1hey: Given me ideas
hey1_1hey: A mushroom belt goes crazy though
hey1_1hey: Possibly
hey1_1hey: I do not relate to this in any way
hikukomoru: Bro just nutted
hey1_1hey: I mean no, not at all
hey1_1hey: FUCK
hikukomoru: ?
hey1_1hey: I did NOT want to see my mushroom interest into soyjack meems
st.sioux: chat is this real
hey1_1hey: This hurts
hey1_1hey: I am prob the furthest thing from a male out there brother
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: No Im a weird gender bending mushroom thing
spicy.lemonade: not my generation
maintcrew: in the reflection
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spicy.lemonade: nah i like it
popsiclejohnithan: Do you think Yann's dismissal of LLMs is why Lama 4 failed so miserably?
brain4brain: Famous example of AGI 2035 "people":
Yann, Aero (Gary)
popsiclejohnithan: Honestly yeah i think they are even a bit conservative on how long it will take for this to all take off, 2027 is two years away and look how much we have gotten in these past few months alone.
brain4brain: Reality is stranger than fiction, believe in 2025
brain4brain: AI 2027 people: Everything is right so far, but slightly pessimistic
AGI 2035 people: Wrong about every single thing so far
aero447: It's done more harm to AI than Alpha wolf paper did to society.
aero447: Please, stop citing that paper.
spicy.lemonade: well no coding agents will be here
spicy.lemonade: ai-2027 essentially says 2025 will be a boring year: https://ai-2027.com/
wolf3404: 📎 📎 📎
aero447: We share roads with these morons.
aero447: "WEF bad!"
aero447: On the day Romulus and Remus founded Rome, on the day the Red Baron was shot down, on the day that the AIDS virus was discovered and Queen Elizabeth was born and Henry VIII became king AND the Gameboy was first sold?!?!?!?!
bob082957: It’s great opportunity because so they take ai seriously and put money in
brain4brain:
brain4brain: Great news for the ASI
brain4brain: <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946>
bob082957: Then Vatican makes kryo just on Head?
spicy.lemonade:
bob082957:
spicy.lemonade: downloaded png and says @ammaar+@olacombe
spicy.lemonade: cant
.wolfnacht: open it
.wolfnacht: So he retired at at the age of 88, the same day the pope died at the age of 88, the day after Hitlers birthday.
spicy.lemonade: whats this?
spicy.lemonade:
.wolfnacht: https://fxtwitter.com/rovercrc/status/1914264979517198341
conspiracy theorists are abt to have a field day with this one
aero447: Yet.
aero447: 😮💨
_3sphere: Time travel is not real <:bingus:1136264105800515644>
aero447: 😉
aero447: Through time travel and fake clone bodies it's infinite.
aero447: Wrong again 1 circle.
trojan09205: Yeah I was not talking about recoverable, but more like how long it takes for every cell to truly die
_3sphere: The window for a maybe-recoverable freezing is pretty short
https://brainpreservation.github.io/Postmortem https://brainpreservation.github.io/Agonal
_3sphere: He's in cryo?
brain4brain: It was a prophecy
brain4brain: Neon green was real
trojan09205: <@749514473303179358> u read “Mans Search For Meaning”?
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hey1_1hey: You wouldnt be able to find it if you tried
trent_k: we need to add more stars to it, starting with greenland
hganhhh: can you point to it
hikukomoru: I'm so ashamed of my country
hganhhh: where is wales on a map
hikukomoru: This guy is Portuguese 🥀
hey1_1hey: Got a big ass dragon on mine
hganhhh: the us flag doesnt have that many stars
hey1_1hey:
trent_k: 🇺🇸 😎
hey1_1hey: Mines cool asf
hganhhh: post your country's flag rn
hey1_1hey: Doesn't change my opinion bruh
hey1_1hey: Ass flag still
trent_k: 😏
hganhhh: its a country in africa
hey1_1hey: ASS
hganhhh: rate the flag
hey1_1hey: Medicinal chemistry is goated 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️
hganhhh: yeah thats me dw
.0xunkn0wn: aromatic 😭
hey1_1hey: I love chemistry
hikukomoru: ??
trent_k: the only thing im worried about is having more kids before they make it illegal
wellmeaningalien: UH OH THE FUN POLICE HAS ARRIVED
hey1_1hey: We haven't had a troll in ages so its good to finally have one come back
hganhhh: dw its spot on
hganhhh: yeah its this
hey1_1hey: The woke mind virus
trent_k: ppl who dont wanna fuck and think its their sexuality but actually its cause they eat nothing but poison
hey1_1hey: Can we get native 4o image to generete big tony as a sub
hganhhh: aromantic
hikukomoru: What the fuck is an ace
_3sphere: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
trent_k: post ur diet
hey1_1hey: I'm perfect
.histic: <@1056739182338388108>
.histic: i'll show u mushroom as a girl @big
trent_k: every time i hear "ey tony" i think of antisemitic memes
hganhhh: sorry im ace
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3ds0662: glad 😌 the singularity will finally happen during our lifetimes
3ds0662: yeah in 2 years its all over
3ds0662:
3ds0662: unrealistic but very fun to watch and enjoy 😉 😊
3ds0662: and last one is from an anime called phi brain
3ds0662: invincible brain 🧠 transfer”the system wasn’t designed for neurons this dense” lol
3ds0662: then we have planet of the apes alz-112 the problem they have the ape doing in the movie is a very famous discrete math/introductory algo problem named the tower of hanoi here they name it “lucas’s tower” lololol
3ds0662: and in 2016 he was a successful investment banker lol
3ds0662: we have limitless 2015 vs 2016 differences where in the movie he was working for a pharma company or something
3ds0662: 90% of brain 🧠 lol
3ds0662: we have lucy cph4
3ds0662: although they don’t necessarily change anything in my real life
3ds0662: im a junkie for these types of characters and shows
3ds0662: i farm this type of fiction like a rat
3ds0662:
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3ds0662:
3ds0662:
3ds0662:
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3ds0662: this whole ai revolution and all these cool ai tools and releases was just a supplementary interest to me i really wish for that instead
3ds0662: even watched the limitless tv show 2016
3ds0662: lol 😂 i have them all saved lol
3ds0662: shit not only that any movie involving becoming super intelligent and a genius temporarily due to some random drug ive watched
3ds0662: ive watched limitless multiple times
3ds0662: ohh my god my favorite movie
3ds0662: something teeming on the level of a mix of adhd focus highly aroused attention drugs plus insane neuroplasticity learning on crack at the pace of polymaths or whatever making learning fun or addicting
otub: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
otub: nzt baby
otub: https://tenor.com/view/limitless-adderall-bradley-cooper-gif-11269455
3ds0662: you think they’ll release a peptide soon enough like ozempic that can reasonably augment human intelligence and learning ability?
3ds0662: o3 pro mode better blow my frickin mind
3ds0662: o3 in 3 weeks i can’t wait
_letterbox: This is the future
a1c4p0ne:
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/maid-robot-anime-animatronic-gif-25435633
hikukomoru: How Chocolate Milk is Made:
Homemade:
Pour milk into a glass.
Add chocolate syrup OR cocoa powder and sugar.
Stir really well until mixed. Done!
Store-Bought (Commercial):
Milk is mixed with cocoa, sugar, and stabilizers (to keep cocoa from settling).
The mix is pasteurized (heated) to make it safe and last longer.
It's often homogenized to make it smooth.
Finally, it's cooled and put into cartons or bottles.
Basically, it's just mixing milk with chocolate flavoring, but store-bought versions have extra steps for safety, smoothness, and shelf life.
joaoluz19: It's just that maybe it's not as relevant as having a body
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technocake.: does 6'2" count
alejandrozarzuelo: i meant global average
hikukomoru: Why is everyone here short
futurist_wizard: Im south african so dutch genes, that would be below average
alejandrozarzuelo: who said european?
alejandrozarzuelo: well i mean average
literallyvarane: Days?
wellmeaningalien:
literallyvarane: Slowly like weeks?
alejandrozarzuelo: 177 is tall tho
zoermena: Yes
technocake.: true and accurate from real prime minister
maintcrew: nah no way the eu average is that small
mihrcelium: Wait what, Alex's been sending dick pics?
wellmeaningalien:
drewsni: Is anyone here except for me a tall Chad?
hey1_1hey: Its a long story
.histic: pro, plus, and free.
but it will roll out slowly. pro first, then plus, then free.
oooooooooog: if ur plus u can just use sora right...?
hey1_1hey: Eh... I mean yanno
alejandrozarzuelo: thats 2cm above the average
hikukomoru: He didn't send you his dick pics too?
literallyvarane: I meant plus not pro lololol
futurist_wizard: Manlet
wellmeaningalien: yex
wellmeaningalien:
literallyvarane: Do plus users have access??
hey1_1hey: 5'2 is crazy
mihrcelium: What is this in American?
hey1_1hey: Dick picks? Damn bro you packing
futurist_wizard: 177ft
hikukomoru: Close enough
alejandrozarzuelo: im 177
alejandrozarzuelo: 177
hikukomoru: So you're 5'2 then?
wellmeaningalien: spicy lemonade is very short
.histic:
futurist_wizard: Its whether you are aroused or not
hey1_1hey: 100% success rate aswell
alejandrozarzuelo: dude you saw my pics
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