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futurist_wizard: If the twerking twink isn't there, I'm telling ya, it's dead spicy.lemonade: yep spicy.lemonade: beats 4o alot harryisgamer: seems like a strict improvement over 4o spicy.lemonade: beats 4.5 and 4o on most benchmarks harryisgamer: it all depends on pricing spicy.lemonade: idk what hes saying spicy.lemonade: very good futurist_wizard: 4.1? More like four.one hey1_1hey: Damn he just leaked his IP 🥀 gamerbath: how is it ass? is o3-mini ass too? hikukomoru: Ass .0xunkn0wn: how good is 4.1 gamerbath: I see this when I personally open the playground, but then 4.1 just dissapears hikukomoru: No It's a shit model futurist_wizard: Is the aged twink there? harryisgamer: lmao hikukomoru: Stfu we're watching the stream futurist_wizard: callmepyro: I suspect that 2.5 flash will make these look really dumb futurist_wizard: Hehehe literallyvarane: I just need pricing tbh hey1_1hey: Alright demo time literallyvarane: Really curious how these compare to 2.5 flash literallyvarane: But Google being able to *ship* 2.5 is impressive hikukomoru: Now compare it to 2.5 gamerbath: how come they never mentioned this. 4o video input!?? hey1_1hey: gamerbath: how does that work, 4o can do video input!? hey1_1hey: Damn hey1_1hey: 30-60 min video?! spicy.lemonade: ? hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395 literallyvarane: Gut tells me 2.5 crushes these, but it’s a CoT model. gamerbath: video?? hey1_1hey: spicy.lemonade: this is a good model callmepyro: OpenAI got mogged by 2.5 Pro and they are desperation shipping hey1_1hey: Hold up hikukomoru: Suck what
hey1_1hey: Close enoguh alejandrozarzuelo: Very famous alejandrozarzuelo: It's a comic strip from the 80s from the US hikukomoru: Is that some boomer movie or smth hey1_1hey: Thank god I am not the only stupid one futurist_wizard: Looks glow up hey1_1hey: Not ringing any bells hikukomoru: I have no idea what that is hey1_1hey: They were so cool alejandrozarzuelo: Calvin and Hobbes hey1_1hey: You missed out 😭 hikukomoru: Also "portuguése" is killing me Either write it in Portuguese or remove the accent hey1_1hey: I have no idea who that is joaoluz19: I dont know them alejandrozarzuelo: This sounds like something Calvin's dad would say hey1_1hey: Yanno, engima and Jgudy they are my wifes joaoluz19: What hey1_1hey: (My wifes) alejandrozarzuelo: The vengeance will be that in 2 years I'll have the 10 yr middle school anniversary and I'll mog futurist_wizard: It is partly not trolling hey1_1hey: Wait until you hear about jgudy and engima joaoluz19: I like it okbut: "I'm waiting until the market isn't so volatile" joaoluz19: Bro futurist hill is top tier troll hey1_1hey: Its good character develpment futurist_wizard: You should seek vengeance futurist_wizard: That's horrible alejandrozarzuelo: Gotta see the silver lining on everything alejandrozarzuelo: It's ok, I think it made me allergic to nostalgia hikukomoru: >everyone bullied me Omg Alejandro you poor thing alejandrozarzuelo: I understand portuguése because of two things 1) it's like 90% intelligible with Spanish 2) I had a school friend who was Brazilian and didn't speak Spanish and since everyone bullied me but him because he had no friends we spoke a lot and he answered me in portuguése and I spoke in Spanish so I understand portuguése even better joaoluz19: https://youtube.com/shorts/AZchW8t3UZs hikukomoru: kkkkkkkkk ninguem sabe hey1_1hey: Pretty easy to say luckily hey1_1hey: I know joaoluz19: People here know that we laugh with "k" right futurist_wizard: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch is a welsh town name hikukomoru: Did you need a google translate or do you just understand Portuguese joaoluz19: KKKKKKKKKKKK hey1_1hey: No wonder I hated the word so much
anathemaofmankind: I'd rather be a simp anathemaofmankind: Well artemisfowl887394: I'd rather go to hell than praise this God artemisfowl887394: If that makes God angry, so be it ailoveyoom: Simp mindset 😔 artemisfowl887394: Life feeds on life. Why? Why this lie? artemisfowl887394: Why wouldn't I wanna ask why predation at all? artemisfowl887394: Why wouldn't I wanna spit in its face? artemisfowl887394: Yeah, well, look at my world. So much suffering and anguish anathemaofmankind: And he's overall a megalomaniac anathemaofmankind: I mean you'd spit in his face artemisfowl887394: Why would the omnipotent being be angry? theaiguy69420_89814: And the balance to be struck moment by moment anathemaofmankind: He's gonna make cartels look like harmless teletubbies lmao anathemaofmankind: Do not anger the omnipotent being artemisfowl887394: Then let me be cooked. If God is evil and arrogant, then I'm a better God than he ever was already theaiguy69420_89814: However, I strongly believe my life is nothing without a concentration practice, contemplative practice, and moral practice anathemaofmankind: If God is real I would immediately try to get on his good side anathemaofmankind: I'm a huge anti-theist but I wouldn't do this. You're gonna get cooked so hard bro fractalcomputer: You people can't discuss philosophy. theaiguy69420_89814: However, I neither take the metaphysical speculation schopenhaur does, nor the precise eightfold path Buddhism does artemisfowl887394: I'd spit in its face and ask Why? anathemaofmankind: What would you do if you died and then you see God staring at you in the afterlife theaiguy69420_89814: As well, schopenhaur's "world as will and representation" is foundational to my thought theaiguy69420_89814: Some of the ideas from Buddhism are undeniably good; namely the four noble truths artemisfowl887394: We live in a world where Predation is unlocked. Kinda tells you how much of a fuck God gives about life, doesn't it? fractalcomputer: If you're going to follow in someone else's footsteps, do it the way it was intended to be tread; if you're going to do your own thing, go create your own thing. anathemaofmankind: Image gen is over capacity bruh theaiguy69420_89814: How so? 777agical: you are the creator, start building <:ez:1136267305521774634> fractalcomputer: That's stupid. futurist_wizard: God wants a high speed railway theaiguy69420_89814: Schopenhaur-esque would be a good word for my view of God and the world artemisfowl887394: You have to exist to question existence, thus you can't ever be certain of your existence'@ rarity. fractalcomputer: In any case it's entirely pointless to speculate about these sorts of things. The point is that there are examples of reasonable conditions where empirical proof of a creator figure is possible. theaiguy69420_89814: Personally, I strongly adhere to Buddhist thought and doctrines, but obviously take on a modern flair to many of the nuanced points artemisfowl887394: It might hide if it has a purpose for the ant farm. It might kill us if it wants to make a highway theaiguy69420_89814: I would say morality should start from Descartes "I think therefore I am" or more precisely "how can one doubt one's very existence without the existence of a doubter" anathemaofmankind: Individual beliefs that aren't based or stem from the major religions are few and largely very subjective. And I can't talk about those if I have no main frame of reference. At that point just list some random hypotheticals fractalcomputer: Would it bother hiding?
himekokatagiri: metaldragon01: Ai will impact everyone and you have to win over skeptics and doomers too metaldragon01: The interview wasn't even that bad lol. It's ok for people to ask uncomfortable questions and Sama did very well winning over the crowd memlaswaif: looking like it probably won't be the case memlaswaif: I expected the left to be the pro ai group and starting shit about ai consciousness and rights zonchao: this was the talk before sama btw and she hates him and AI and talked about how we should rally to take it down and the crowd went nuts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZOoT8AbkNE with sama the clapping was mostly pity <:LOL:1187460826572005436> himekokatagiri: well shit where are these guys now himekokatagiri: zonchao: but probably not the extent he did zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> zonchao: sama not a weak bitch zonchao: it wont memlaswaif: he' doesn't need to be doing these interviews ailoveyoom: I hope this doesn't dissuade him from doing interviews or whatever zonchao: yes ailoveyoom: Yeah, does he know he's coming to receive all that 💀 zonchao: he literally 1vtheentireaudience <:LOL:1187460826572005436> zoermena: zonchao: sama is the one thats bold here himekokatagiri: shit depends ailoveyoom: I guess they're bold enough to talk shit about Sama and AI (his life's work) right in front of him now? I feel like this'd only escalate 😔 memlaswaif: what's the right wing opinion on ai himekokatagiri: sure if you have no choice zonchao: they pay good money for mid zonchao: ive seen what these people comm himekokatagiri: (no one buys drawings who are you fooling) himekokatagiri: The hacks on twitter wanna make their dime churning out cheap porn zonchao: because that interview was giga retarded himekokatagiri: it's a simple matter and this goes beyond art himekokatagiri: why the wall of text zonchao: the second the shit was over he was ready to leave <:LOL:1187460826572005436> zonchao: The talk prior to sama had this crazy decel bitch yapping about nazi Germany and trump too, she said she will protest sama because all AI is theft and the crowd was gassing her up like crazy. She thinks letting your kids use google is child abuse because google collects data for ads <:weirdcringe:818973627114455060> zonchao: The audience was filled with decel left wing lunatics. Techbros should do everything in their power to make these loonies as irrelevant as possible, they should crush them and their opinions. Most of them are anti-ai and pro art. The retard that's interviewing sama asked if he'd be open to an AI safety summit with the worlds top ethicists to discuss guardrails and sama shut him down by saying he gets direct feedback from hundreds of millions of people(what <@312370916820779040> said sometime ago<a:SUS:1326788442549391401> ) and that is better than letting a few elites decide what is better policy, then the retard says what sama and openai are doing is like nazi Germany because they were also supported by millions of people(sama is jewish btw so its even more retarded to even imply this)....i cant with these leftwing loonies, they compare everything to nazi Germany and hitler 😭 though im glad this happened, sama was reminded how retarded these people are and should never cave to their wants. metaldragon01: Openai continues to ship solid products metaldragon01: Paid tokens matching 2.5 on openrouter.ai and trending upwards metaldragon01: 4.1 is gaining a lot of steam atm ldj: You don't think Claude 3.7 sonnet has won atleast?? it's not even the full Claude 3.5 Opus version yet and people are still preferring it over the others himekokatagiri: Cloudo defeating the AI winter with Veo 2 himekokatagiri: _cloudost: I mean Google won the AI winter.
fractalcomputer: I have been diagnosed with autism, but I suspect there's something more going on. I fit many diagnostic criteria on the side of the schizoid and antisocial spectrum. wellmeaningalien: i come to discord because im BORED AS FUCK and i like talking futurist_wizard: I have been destrucules: High Kegan hierarchy vibes futurist_wizard: Finland is a pretty pleasant country to live in zoermena: I find it easier to relate to people here than I do in real life. It’s easier to just be more open with myself. destrucules: Personal question so don't answer if you're not comfortable ofc fractalcomputer: The world has not been a kind place to some. destrucules: Do you have a diagnosis or suspected condition that explains this? futurist_wizard: <@688807313015963693> 不要再被禁止 .wolfnacht: i come to discord only to act dumb and find some drama to laugh about...that's it. fractalcomputer: One is simply a story he tells himself. zoermena: Yes I do feel more liberty to share who I am here. futurist_wizard: !!!!! fractalcomputer: When I am mean to people, I do not do so out of malevolence; or when I say or do something kind, I do not do so out of benevolence. alejandrozarzuelo: Fractal seems to be one of the most miserable people I know, I sometimes genuinely feel bad for him futurist_wizard: Yes but /s takes out the humour of a sarcastic comment fractalcomputer: I find that personalities are largely constructed things. alejandrozarzuelo: Etc .wolfnacht: >I do not feel emotions i can relate, as someone with suppressed emotions since childhood. i'm actually numb to everything alejandrozarzuelo: /hj alejandrozarzuelo: And /s alejandrozarzuelo: That's why /j exists alejandrozarzuelo: Hardly, it's hard to express tone in text fractalcomputer: Not really. zoermena: What I show here is roughly 80% of who I truly am to be honest. futurist_wizard: Alejandro can you not tell when im being sarcastic alejandrozarzuelo: Ok alejandrozarzuelo: As I said, I don't treat you any different I do Fractal futurist_wizard: Alejandro im joking zoermena: Or maybe you surround yourself with a circle who resonates at your same “wavelength” allowing you to make jokes etc . alejandrozarzuelo: Also I don't treat you any different than I treat Fractal .wolfnacht: maybe he comes here with his alt..with a different persona which we can't tell futurist_wizard: But you did respond to my message with an emoji fractalcomputer: I can't say. I do not feel emotions the way other people feel them. alejandrozarzuelo: This has nothing to do with what I asked alejandrozarzuelo: ??? zoermena: Why do you limit this part of yourself online? Or are you just pretending in real life futurist_wizard: 你竟敢用一个小小的表情符号回应我神圣的咆哮?!这不是开玩笑!应以尊敬与崇拜回应,凡人! alejandrozarzuelo: If you say so
theaiguy69420_89814: lol google actually winning rn _cloudost: st.sioux: https://cloud.withgoogle.com/next/25 st.sioux: in 70 minutes metaldragon01: Well....let's wait to see flash 2.5 spacetimetsunami: Which improvements are you referring to zoermena: Fuck me I guess metaldragon01: Improvements are insane atm metaldragon01: Timelines may have moved up 4 to 6 months drewsni: I need them to give me flash 2.5 for free again for a week so I can use 100k worth of api for free futurist_wizard: Far fam spacetimetsunami: Source - Me (I never lie) spacetimetsunami: AGI ~ (capable of automating huge sectors of knowledge work) likely in 2027 and 8, both physical and cognitive 2030 metaldragon01: Google is happening drewsni: Did a google event happen or something zoermena: Closer, always retrerox: So are we close or far from AGI? zoermena: <:google:1243723589715496990> zoermena: Are they easily accessible rn? zoermena: Big drops aero447: Anime .avi opinion irrelevant. aero447: We are going to starts a discussion. aero447: Where are they? aero447: _cloudost: I hope the updated IMG 3 doesn't care about copyright aero447: Where are your goats? aero447: 🧎‍♂️ aero447: - Gemini 2.5 Flash - Imagen 3 (new) - Chirp 3 - Lyria - Veo 2 - Agent2Agent protocol - Ironwood TPU aero447: Google. literallyvarane: I don’t think OAI is powerless to ship here. Again, clearly o3, o4m exist. brain4brain: How will OpenAI even respond…. They need to launch AGI to be able to compete now, or maybe secret-imagen-model metaldragon01: Subjective _cloudost: Is it great like the other AI music generators _cloudost: Also Veo2 editing capabilities sounds interesting metaldragon01: They've announced it earlier for YouTube _cloudost: I haven't heard of text to music before, did Google release a similar AI music model before or is this the first time spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: NATIVR VOICE spicy.lemonade: NEW TPU spicy.lemonade: TEXT TO MUSIC
futurist_wizard: It does look a lot different ailoveyoom: Practing edging by not subbing futurist_wizard: It's meant to be a realistic painting anathemaofmankind: They want us dead anathemaofmankind: Luddites want us to die bro hikukomoru: Can you try BG3 anathemaofmankind: zonchao: did you unsub anathemaofmankind: It barely looks different ailoveyoom: Can you try Skyrim 🥺 jonvi_1: Too old :( spicy.lemonade: Real screenshot or ai spicy.lemonade: futurist_wizard: spicy.lemonade: Lol zonchao: i think mj is working on video maintcrew: i thought u meant to say "they need an llm bade" and correct it to "baddie" implying that midjourney is now doing sex robots jonvi_1: ”Diffusion has hit a wall” lol jonvi_1: Yeah they can’t just come up w/ a multimodal transformer thing out of thin air spicy.lemonade: A smart one at that spicy.lemonade: Base spicy.lemonade: They need an llm bade spicy.lemonade: But their image business is over spicy.lemonade: What could it possibly be anathemaofmankind: I wonder how ER characters will look in different styles maintcrew: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> zonchao: you can have that while going to school/just not going and doing the minimum... exams should be easy enough if you are considering dropping out to pursue stuff maintcrew: u know midjourney is doing some hardware stuff jonvi_1: Coursework can be at times a bit removed from the real world, there’s a reason companies have boot camps and stuff for graduates spicy.lemonade: That's the only way spicy.lemonade: Lol spicy.lemonade: Midjourney should just merge with claud maintcrew: confidence and a "now or never" mindset ig jonvi_1: Cool what I did say though is I can agree on a perspective of uni being quite relaxed for SWE and that something more apprenticeship like / ”work” like could be better use of one’s time futurist_wizard: Not in Ghibli i just asked a standard anime style zonchao: like what do you gain from dropping out anathemaofmankind: Dark souls 3 in ghibli zonchao: how old are you futurist_wizard: spicy.lemonade: In the o3 era
spicy.lemonade: i need to go on an artists server and watch meltdown literallyvarane: IS IT LIVE FOR PLUS USERS??? hey1_1hey: They be gone and berried clevermoniker: https://fixupx.com/NickADobos/status/1904603128374452611 maintcrew: rest in piss hey1_1hey: 6 wellmeaningalien: 4 FEET UNDERGROUND joaoluz19: FUCK OPEN AI MAN wellmeaningalien: RIPPP wellmeaningalien: RIP ARTISTS drewsni: actual last one literallyvarane: IS IT LIVE FOR PLUS USERS??? spicy.lemonade: 😭 spicy.lemonade: no joke spicy.lemonade: this will genuinely replace artists wellmeaningalien: if this doesnt replace imagen entirely then gpt 4.5o or something will hey1_1hey: A short lived expierment 777agical: https://fxtwitter.com/nickadobos/status/1904603128374452611 maintcrew: <#1296982484835237960> ? hey1_1hey: What is this 😭 wellmeaningalien: like literallyvarane: It is live for plus users? hikukomoru: Imagine an AGI trained exclusively on this server's messages 🔥 wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o image gen blows gemini image gen out of the water and might actually replace artists entirely neon01197: hey1_1hey: The artists are crying, pissing and shitting everywhere maintcrew: the singularatards are just excited by whats prettier (image gen) spicy.lemonade: not a single mistake maintcrew: true the gemini model seems insane wellmeaningalien: dude we need this on an image leaderboard spicy.lemonade: bro trent_k: im a gemini boy now wellmeaningalien: thats HUUUUUUUGE spicy.lemonade: this looks hand drawn drewsni: has to be, actual agi and its trained on this discord wellmeaningalien: thats huuuge tho wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/severance-milkshake-severance-milchick-tramell-tillman-severance-season-2-milchick-milchick-milkshake-gif-6077999138498143408 maintcrew: fork 20$ paypig wellmeaningalien: i cant unsee severance in this interview with all the tense corporate awkwardness spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: just text/coding agent spicy.lemonade: not agi spicy.lemonade: and you dont get agi from just text spicy.lemonade: everything is gui spicy.lemonade: but its 2025 spicy.lemonade: if the year is 1990 yes okbut: <a:chatting:977086346038485002> christiskingrapturenxtmonth: that's all text based christiskingrapturenxtmonth: <:idk:1136264106937171999> spicy.lemonade: interact with software spicy.lemonade: use mouse spicy.lemonade: files spicy.lemonade: you have to build projects spicy.lemonade: programing is more than just typing in terminal christiskingrapturenxtmonth: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652> spicy.lemonade: yes christiskingrapturenxtmonth: do you need multimodal to program? spicy.lemonade: multimodal is like the top thing needed for agi😭 christiskingrapturenxtmonth: you don't need multimodal, RL + reasoning is all you need spicy.lemonade: r1 couldnt even read images spicy.lemonade: how am i coping christiskingrapturenxtmonth: you're copeing spicy.lemonade: they dont even have multimodal spicy.lemonade: they arent close to agi christiskingrapturenxtmonth: what if R2 is AGI, would you share it or announce it? spicy.lemonade: they arent close to agi yet where they have to keep secret spicy.lemonade: they want to destroy US market spicy.lemonade: no christiskingrapturenxtmonth: or perhaps it's so good they can't release it spicy.lemonade: and are struggling spicy.lemonade: they were bluffing spicy.lemonade: if deepseek doesnt drop april a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634> <:based:1136264604788473946> spicy.lemonade: Even more impressive spicy.lemonade: Don't think itneouldve helped a human that much either spicy.lemonade: Nothing wrong with a calm lil minimap a1c4p0ne: a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864 brain4brain: Wasn't it given a mini-map for pokemon hey1_1hey: Bold of you to assume deepseek runs of chips. For all we know it could run off of used peices of gum and toothpicks
.wolfnacht: gaymini spicy.lemonade: wtf drewsni: gemini is dead spicy.lemonade: thats coding 101 abundantliving_: where ? where is it happening? 👀 hikukomoru: Gemini spicy.lemonade: wtf st.sioux: spicy.lemonade: put something infront of equals sign spicy.lemonade: and its such a simple error spicy.lemonade: IT DIDNT CHANGE ANYTHING spicy.lemonade: THATS THE SAME CODE .wolfnacht: i'm in my google hate arc spicy.lemonade: look spicy.lemonade: .wolfnacht: show .wolfnacht: i was too lazy to dig into the meme folder spicy.lemonade: wtf spicy.lemonade: SUCKS spicy.lemonade: 2.5 pro spicy.lemonade: holy shit after using it more .wolfnacht: lmao, i exactly remembered this meme when i saw the image above hikukomoru: ldj: Still behind both Boston dynamics and unitree .wolfnacht: then we'll go and scream AI winter for a month... fractalcomputer: Why am I being sexualised. hikukomoru: So much is happening drewsni: literallyvarane: literallyvarane: literallyvarane: Also; literallyvarane: Confirmed real spicy.lemonade: of last week spicy.lemonade: ok this week makes up for nothing burger spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/z6KiwXT_yAM .wolfnacht: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1136230110891081821/1332776133959352370/sam_altman_this_is_fine.gif .wolfnacht: ratio OpenAI Fast.... spicy.lemonade: faster and cheaper spicy.lemonade: its above mini high spicy.lemonade: thats for sure
ailoveyoom: I'm a lover not a fighter 😇 ailoveyoom: The video models 😈 himekokatagiri: don't torture my anime girls that's unethical precariousworlds.: nsfw AI will be a massive net negative precariousworlds.: i expected that this frontier would be ground zero in the development of ai precariousworlds.: not a degenerate btw was just interested fractalcomputer: Huh. ailoveyoom: Missed chance to rec Grok 😔 ailoveyoom: If you wanna know more about gore stuff then ask <@578146630222741504> lmao ailoveyoom: Yeah, but I don't use it through their site. I use it through OpenRouter's chat mode lol, or Poe (more limited usage) Also Grok, it's pretty tolerant with sex. zoermena: 4.1 can tell you how to give a very good blow job I saw it on Reddit precariousworlds.: No I was just curious if there are any chatbots which have little restrictions on it futurist_wizard: Of course you do ailoveyoom: I only experiment with erotica esque stuff, not extreme gore precariousworlds.: Deepseek? ailoveyoom: I dunno what you mean by NSFW tho ailoveyoom: V3 specifically is super underrated imo 🥺 ailoveyoom: Maybe V3? R1? The latter is more schizo, but can be fun in its own way. futurist_wizard: In America there have been multiple instances of Cavecels seeing spooky car moving with no driver or robot delivery and attacking it on sight futurist_wizard: Terminator has fucked it up for westerncels futurist_wizard: Not just Chinese but east Asia in general alejandrozarzuelo: But more as a show of the extreme chasm between Chinese and western culture when it comes to AI and robotics and automatisation than as a display of Android progress as there's nothing we haven't seen before alejandrozarzuelo: It was cool futurist_wizard: Did anyone talk about that robot running that chinese marathon hikukomoru: Yeah that guy in the back is so damn ugly with that shitty ass haircut My Pink Panther looks much cuter himekokatagiri: damn that thing is ugly hikukomoru: I'm playing Oblivion fractalcomputer: The empirical sciences strike again. ldj: In this case, they seem to imposing extra unnecessary complexity onto their curve fitting extrapolation, where-as the occams razor curve-fit on that same data results in something different. ldj: In this case, their curve fitting is a small part of the problem with their thesis. But the curve fitting itself introduces methods of imposing hyperbolic growth onto the curve that is actually **not** supported in a significant way by the existing long term growth. ldj: (/s) ldj: otherwise they're wrong ldj: It is, but only when their conclusions agree with mine yes. <a:mhm:1241863658284253264> fractalcomputer: I thought fitting exponential curves on things we can call objective progress was enough to predict the future.. ldj: They seem to not take into account certain things like, they say bioweapons could be developed by 2030 to wipe everyone out in a fast acceleration event, but then they ignore the fact that by 2030 we could also significantly enhance biological immune systems, and significantly improve the advancement of preventative measures and detection methods too. and in general they tend to just hand wave certain things like AI becoming more monolithic and this single hive mind as opposed to many individual AIs around the same capability level with varying goals, and with some of their projections they impose acceleration curves that seem be jumping to conlcusions as well with not much unique solid grounding. zonchao: <@430269783112548362> zonchao: <@1280414635836837992> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLBsUarvWTw& precariousworlds.: Out of interest are there any GPT-4 level chatbots/models that have almost zero filter for nsfw content? zonchao: their timelines are decades away sarik0497: <@312370916820779040> Sorry if you’ve already talked about this, but what’s your opinion on the AI 2027 page? Kinda intriguing if you ask me.
st.sioux: loll st.sioux: its guerilla bro hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/gorilla-gorilla-warfare-guerilla-warfare-guerilla-meme-gif-24204800 hikukomoru: Gorilla warfare fractalcomputer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenni sarik0497: Didn’t they perform gorilla warfare with even the women being frightful fighters? Although I do see the point in them maybe have been Estonians, given how far away Finland was from the Roman Empire. But still, a cool story nonetheless if you ask me. clevermoniker: https://x.com/btibor91/status/1902829344914821476 https://x.com/ArtificialAnlys/status/1904188980423467472 st.sioux: we lib in a society .wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/oswald-mosley-we-live-in-a-period-we-live-in-a-society-gamer-society-gif-18166259 .wolfnacht: nah, CS majors have my sympathy.... ailoveyoom: Democratizing gooning with AI 🥺 sarik0497: True…Just insane that people haven’t evolved to accept support each other and not just them under the bus like that. But I guess I’m just too optimistic about humanity fractalcomputer: The Finns were described as incredibly primitive; barely human, I recall, and even then it was unclear whether the historian was describing the Estonians or the Finns. .wolfnacht: meanwhile fucking artists aren't really picasso or walt disney drawing everything from scratch on a piece of hard canvas and paper...they are literally using cheat brushes and additional software help...a digital artist crying that AI is gonna take my furry porn commisions should just kill themselves at this point, bcz they should be making art but they are literally gooning and trying to scam ppl for a 10$ a piece of their furr stuff. fractalcomputer: Your faith fuels their fears. hikukomoru: No that's mine bish sarik0497: Funny thing is, I remember reading not too long ago that a tiny faction of Romans actually meet the Finnish, but due to their fighting prowess, they found the task of taking the land impossible. Denmark, on the other hand? Our climate were just too cold <:sad_cat:873457028981481473> Nothing worth mentioning of our fighting prowess. Just “too cold. Fuck that place” fractalcomputer: In general I find that the PauseAI folk are a rather ignominious outgrowth of the worst elements of the transhumanist and other futurist communities. memlaswaif: das my job joaoluz19: Lets beat the shit out of them, boys! hikukomoru: st.sioux: all other disciplines are built on collaboration st.sioux: yea they're pretty selfish but that's been the norm with art since like forever 777agical: https://fxtwitter.com/bryanhelmig/status/1904217558871392723?s=46 sarik0497: Jeez… Best one I’ve seen (as I probably mentioned a few days ago) was that most of the hate is towards art and music. They legit go “I don’t mind AI helping with programming and such, but art and music should be left to the artists!” So, just fuck all the CS majors, right? .wolfnacht: make sure to lock your doors and windows properly tonightt. .wolfnacht: their growths .wolfnacht: yes, but as an imposter and sabotage fractalcomputer: But we shall grant thee mercy for thy nationality; for we are listening to Dvorák, and Dvorák doth please us. fractalcomputer: The Danish are known for being lazy bums. st.sioux: this gif creeps me out bruh sarik0497: What’s that supposed to mean? Ruining my 6 day weekend here, my man. memlaswaif: <@834891518836736010> u should join that community .wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/pepe-hand-rub-pepe-hand-rubbing-pepe-smirking-hand-rubbing-smirk-and-hand-rub-smirking-and-hand-rubbing-gif-13513195635465701568 memlaswaif: No wonder memlaswaif: <:despair:1347430559365726279> sarik0497: Correct. .wolfnacht: https://www.reddit.com/r/PauseAI/ just found out they've got a reddit too. fractalcomputer: He's Danish. memlaswaif: what job do u have
wellmeaningalien: yeah it's pretty damn good but for example for math you might be better off with those reasoning models or gemini 2.0 pro or gpt 4.5 and what have you joaoluz19: Inferior to deepkseek lol metaldragon01: It's smaller than deepseek .wolfnacht: idk i haven't opened twitter in a while, are there any evals ? wellmeaningalien: i think the most disappointing is how fat it is for such disappointing performance lol wellmeaningalien: i'd still kinda expect more .wolfnacht: dissapointing* wellmeaningalien: thats not all too bad, it's competitive with the frontier models from other labs but i mean metaldragon01: L4 isn't garbage joaoluz19: The 4o one is really good recently, I've been using it a lot for higher education math .wolfnacht: L4 was garbage, i still need to see behemoth, but that's a 2T model metaldragon01: Yes metaldragon01: https://x.com/ArtificialAnlys/status/1908890796415414430 .wolfnacht: is quasar good ? wellmeaningalien: not gpt 4.5, not claude 3.7 or claude 3.7 thinking, not gemini 2.5 pro, wellmeaningalien: but keep in mind gpt 4o is the top model on the lmarena leaderboard <:CSMAngelShrug:762352063006769193> .wolfnacht: >stealth model wellmeaningalien: cause there are way more dimensions than those and as we all know lmarena is a middling benchmark (although with style control it seems the llama 4 series still get beaten out pretty good) wellmeaningalien: it's talking more specifically about creative writing and lmarena elo which i dont feel is totally fair joaoluz19: Yep wellmeaningalien: are u talking about the top post rn wellmeaningalien: yea thats a fair criticism joaoluz19: I saw people saying that it is not better than gemma wellmeaningalien: 😭 wellmeaningalien: These are literally all reasoning models and they're comparing it with base models wellmeaningalien: wellmeaningalien: I'm not trying to defend llama 4 but people who are seriously comparing it to claude 3.7 thinking or gemini 2.5 pro which are thinking model and then cry out when it's not as good as giving deeper reflections are retarded metaldragon01: Quasar (likely from openai) would be my guess. They had time to benchmark it ect since it was released free. Made it easy to know if they should get ahead of it imo. metaldragon01: Rumors is something big drops Monday and that's why llama release got pushed up joaoluz19: But curious what they are making too joaoluz19: From the Meta part I wanted to see the non-LLM architecture of Lecun .wolfnacht: qwen and moonshot are cooking something rn. joaoluz19: About llama 4 joaoluz19: Cof cof joaoluz19: shirethedreamer: ill say the same thing i said about him to my friends just use his page as a good collection of recent impactful ai and robotics news dont pay his personal takes any mind shirethedreamer: Dr.* Alan zonchao: alan futurist_wizard: Never _cloudost: Veo 2....
destrucules: Those will be way weaker destrucules: Not the 30A3B nor the 15A2B metaldragon01: Yeap destrucules: The big moe metaldragon01: For the moe metaldragon01: I'm expecting flash 2.5 levels tbh ldj: sorry forgot to put the approximate symbols "~" lol destrucules: 17B active 109B total metaldragon01: To the new ones metaldragon01: 32b qwq is the closest model destrucules: Assuming same efficiency And we don't have Scout reasoning but we do have QvQ-72B aero447: 69IQ says that in May (month) it will be in some (99%) areas! ldj: iirc its 15B active and 100B total for scout ldj: scout is the smallest btw, above scout is maverick and behemoth metaldragon01: Well we don't have scout reasoning destrucules: Ye metaldragon01: Hellll nooo destrucules: The 32B dense will be Llama 4 Scout level ldj: also is a reasoner metaldragon01: Yea it's going to pack a punch destrucules: 235A22B destrucules: The big big moe metaldragon01: The moe or 32b dense destrucules: So reasoning performance on par with like, Gemini 2.5 Flash and Claude 3.7 Sonnet (i.e. o1 Pro level) is what I expect destrucules: Just going off of Qwen2.5 efficiency and scaling to 2x tokens tho, and then doing the geometric mean thing for the MoE, it should be roughly in that 80 MMLU-Pro bracket with GPT-4.1 and Llama 4 Maverick and Grok 3 and Claude 3.7 Sonnet and Gemini 2.5 Flash and Gemini 2.0 Pro and DeepSeek V3 0324. Maybe slightly shy of it, like Gemini 2.0 Flash and GPT-4.1 mini and Qwen2.5-Max. zoermena: <:KenShock2:1194419445234405437> zoermena: El apagón tiene disfunción eréctil ldj: so there is no answer to that yet ldj: No benchmarks are available yet destrucules: The 235A22B with Reasoning might be close but probably not quite quite on par. ldj: it's not in the leaked model scope correct destrucules: There's a 32B dense? I didn't see it in the leaked modelscope. Then again, I didn't see the 15A2B that was leaked a month ago either. alejandrozarzuelo: Can anyone confirm if the best Qwen 3 model is on par with Gemini 2.5 and o3? alejandrozarzuelo: It's still intermittent alejandrozarzuelo: Eh .wolfnacht: is blackouts finally gone ? alejandrozarzuelo: Lmao this is a 10 year prediction that is already wrong fractalcomputer: For once on the Iberian peninsula. alejandrozarzuelo: Things are starting to work alejandrozarzuelo: Not really
benata: Seize my dick precariousworlds.: pussies get afraid at the passage of time the strong seize it 🦅 futurist_wizard: wellmeaningalien: tfw this meme will be true in just 2 years wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/bruhnus-gif-25982543 hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/aging-getting-old-gif-9803364 .histic: it's already the 4th month of 2025. just two more weeks and we will be in 2026. wellmeaningalien: Wtf gpt 4o image gen is already a week ago campionunbound: He did it to feel something futurist_wizard: wellmeaningalien: #savegpt4o maintcrew: wellmeaningalien: sorry bro ion speak that language st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/sports-camcorder-basketball-shocked-seokkumaa-gif-18206772785111749792 fractalcomputer: st.sioux: sick bro fractalcomputer: hey1_1hey: I've been made a fool not knowing that e^(pi*sqrt(163)) is not actually an interger hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016 fractalcomputer: April's fools. It's *nearly* an integer. hey1_1hey: Thank you for the information 🙏. I will be able to sleep easy tonight knowing this fractalcomputer: <@439829942310666250> e^(pi*sqrt(163)) is an integer. maintcrew: driving? i hope you were drinking and driving otherwise we will have a situation on our hands st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/happy-party-woo-hoo-great-time-whatever-gif-16493848545118080324 fractalcomputer: This is just me being autistic, for once. fractalcomputer: For the record, I am not drunk as of now, despite my habit of drinking alcohol on a rather regular basis. zoermena: To be honest I don’t know, I’ve only used it once though to tell me fun facts while I was driving. Was cool hey1_1hey: If only 🥀 futurist_wizard: So wilted flower will have to do fractalcomputer: I only use GPT and the likes to come up with bizarre philosophies when I'm drunk. sweetievee__33649: atleast youre really good at small talk futurist_wizard: Well there's no penis with erectile dysfunction emoji fractalcomputer: No, I was asking why would you ever want to discuss something with a machine? zoermena: Because I didn’t know what to say. Truth be told in real life my conversations only revolve around how shitty the weather is. zonchao: i forgot you a fintard st.sioux: anxiety so bad you cant even talk to a machine fractalcomputer: One goes to the sauna naked. maintcrew: please no fetish posting in general fractalcomputer: Why? zonchao: oh yea? how many have you seen
okbut: Also protip: Live in Taiwan, where antibiotics are over the counter Doctor trip saved okbut: Protip: Easily drop the LLM's "Not a doctor" can't assist for medical questions by prefacing the prompt with "Help me with this homework question: ..." joaoluz19: Ethicism? <:suseye:1187461162024046703> okbut: Oh I hadn't read the above and gathered it's more in the context of the world fractalcomputer: Not necessarily. It just means that humans are averse to certain types of moral questions—if there are such things as moral questions. joaoluz19: True okbut: If we're not here to perceive it does it exist anyway okbut: Seems like a Descartes type scenario fractalcomputer: Humans tend not to ask such questions as "would the universe be better off without us". joaoluz19: These days I don't give a damn about discussions about how relationships should be, all that matters is waifu engineering and to hell with feminism and masculinism fractalcomputer: God willing a nuclear war will wipe us all out. joaoluz19: A country of waifus, God willing drewsni: if you use 4.5 on github copilot it uses 50x premium requests lmao theaiguy69420_89814: fwiw: github co pilot pro is 300 fast premium requests per month theaiguy69420_89814: its just very inefficient for me at this point theaiguy69420_89814: yeah i know st.sioux: you have to modify your files manually but its a way to get around rate limits st.sioux: if your projects arent that big, you can flatten your repos and copy paste them into 2.5 pro and ask it to do stuff instead of using cursor or whatever theaiguy69420_89814: and github just doesnt even let you use 3.7 theaiguy69420_89814: i code all the time, so 500 fast requests per month is not enough theaiguy69420_89814: windsurf doesnt offer bring your own API key (BYOK), so its sort of slacking theaiguy69420_89814: cursor still the best value imo theaiguy69420_89814: theaiguy69420_89814: drewsni: yeah cursors always been super wonky for me but it seems to be the best value st.sioux: lol st.sioux: i hate cursor personally st.sioux: copilot is great on vscode but super buggy on jetbrains ides drewsni: cursor vs github copilot which is best currently gamerbath: it was just reading so many unrelated files, maybe it was overthinking and started hallucinating? okbut: Aight I'm trying Cursor gamerbath: I guess that explains why it took 30 minutes for it to implement a simple fix 3.7 sonnet did in 30 seconds .histic: okbut: Can't check yet tho okbut: If cursor has this then vs code insiders must .histic: defaults to high reasoning effort Cursor confirmed this in a tweet gamerbath: for the reasoning effort gamerbath: o3 and o4-mini further down. it doesn't say low medium or high so what's going on there? maybe it's just the default medium? gamerbath: it is, I just disabled it so I don't see it in the model selector. there's so many models in here okbut: I'm wondering whether the cursor switch is worth it being a copilot/cline bro
alejandrozarzuelo: It's not healthy to put this preassure on your children, to make them think they should have kids himekokatagiri: okay serious question alejandrozarzuelo: No? I want to have a kid of my own, I am just saying that having children is something you should do without the expectation of your genes propagating perish0801: How tf do you know how I’ll feel about my kids? trent_k: What a roller coaster. You had me for a second and then lost me hikukomoru: Ok good 👍 trojan09205: Youre working on yourself by participating in this multicultural chat lmao perish0801: I wont himekokatagiri: no. tanuki girls hikukomoru: Fuck you bitch futurist_wizard: Wtf are we even talking about? As if future generations will give a rats ass about having kids? Bruh hikukomoru: If your kids decide to not have kids of their own will you hate them ailoveyoom: Bunny girls bro fractalcomputer: I am eating old grapes here. ailoveyoom: Catgirls are overrated st.sioux: im supposed to be working right now alejandrozarzuelo: You can only play a numbers game perish0801: The point is you have children. Not anything else. The point is you’re triggered by me saying having kids is good. The point is you’re weak af alejandrozarzuelo: Or the number of grandchildren you have may be low enough that your grandchildren generation may be the one that stops your lineage trent_k: Emergency hikukomoru: Planet of the catgirls? trent_k: 🚨 fractalcomputer: Lucky you. alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah, but it is not that unlikely that they all decide to not have children himekokatagiri: 😭 trojan09205: Today was a very productive day at work proud of myself haha himekokatagiri: but I like talking to you!!! ailoveyoom: Alright bet 😈 perish0801: I wont perish0801: The chance of all 3-4 of my children being lgbtq is pretty unlikely st.sioux: he will probably just humilliate them and otucast them if theyre gay alejandrozarzuelo: Why do you think so futurist_wizard: 'i was only pretending to be stupid haha' ailoveyoom: what does that mean perish0801: Very unlikely alejandrozarzuelo: They can just be gay or trans or not interested hikukomoru: Bro just ask ChatGPT or Gemini You have geniuses in your pocket go use them perish0801: They wont cuz they have a father figure in their life trojan09205: Y terrible ailoveyoom: We need a Planet of (other animal) movies. The world needs an evil dolphin and a good guy shark movie 🥺
popsiclejohnithan: lol destrucules: The best way to think about what's going on right now is to try to remember what 2019 was like. In 2019, AIs were decisively superhuman in certain narrow domains, particularly very structured ones, but humans still significantly more generally intelligent. Right now, the opposite is true. Frontier models are outstripping humans in general intelligence, but humans outperform them in narrow domains, particularly very structured ones. If you remember the years leading up to 2019, you have a pretty good idea of what it will look like for AI intelligence to continue scaling from here. precariousworlds.: We are all retards here precariousworlds.: No not necessarily interesting discussion to have popsiclejohnithan: Maybe i am just a dumbass. precariousworlds.: what does it mean to 'solve math' in this context? Also you have to apply maths to real, physical contexts And the universe is more than this anathemaofmankind: Lol fractalcomputer: Is it? I don't see how. popsiclejohnithan: Mathmatics is the building blocks of the universe man. fractalcomputer: If even at that. fractalcomputer: Please don't make me dismiss your opinion. precariousworlds.: The big question here is if Google continues to out accelerate OAI, with GPT-5 still months away, or if this marks a period of OAI regaining the lead popsiclejohnithan: And after Math is solved, everything is pretty much solved. popsiclejohnithan: I honestly don't see how they could be disappointed, this has been a big leap, they definitely have not mastered math yet but it's damn close, it's probably a matter of months. destrucules: It can write maths proofs just fine. But we're only just beginning to enter the "good at frontier maths research" regime perish0801: Yeah it’s not really at the level of writing math proofs. I saw an OpenAI researcher tweet the same thing. destrucules: Glad I clarified. It's interesting that Terrence Tao has been so positive about AI collaboration fractalcomputer: I've not seen a single instance of the former. A few of the latter ones, but the most sensible ones (i.e., from people like Daniel Litt) seem a bit disappointed, in some vague sense. destrucules: Like, reticent in the "oh shit I'm scared" way, or in the "I don't want to say out loud how dumb I think this model is" way? destrucules: reticent in what way, though? fractalcomputer: I've seen rather reticent responses from mathematicians, even from "non-doomers". perish0801: Hopefully it’s true destrucules: We're crossing the human scientists don't have to work anymore threshold right now. We're crossing the ASI threshold right now. We're deep, deep within the singularity popsiclejohnithan: It seems so honestly, all the experts are saying that it's better than them. a1c4p0ne: o3 high is for pro users? popsiclejohnithan: What do you think Google will show on the 22nd? destrucules: No I mean we're crossing that threshold now perish0801: It’s happening yes but hasn’t happened yet perish0801: When AI becomes so smart that scientists and mathematicians don’t have to work anymore destrucules: Oh. Well, in that case, now. It's happening now perish0801: No I mean ASI perish0801: Saturate benchmarks? destrucules: We're in it destrucules: It's happening now 3ds0662: we first need to saturate all benchmarks 3ds0662: R2 has to be amazing else no need to cop 3ds0662: they’ll definitely have to show up significantly in a remarkable way to shakeup what googles offering for free and openai right now 3ds0662: they can always find investors soo do that instead of trying to penny pinch and fork subs for every little thing 3ds0662: i think they should continue subsidizing the best models at crazy losses to their bottom end for the sake of humanity 3ds0662: yeah i dont like this pay to win trend of ever increasing subscriptions and api costs
hey1_1hey: No change then hey1_1hey: I do remember this one time actually where I some how headbutted a guy in my dream but in the process of doing that I woke up and everything morphed around me from dream land to real life and I just ended up head butting my wall full force. I had a fat ass bruise on my head for a good rfew weeks after that futurist_wizard: Sounds fairly correct, I'd say issues in my teenage years more hikukomoru: And you might have a bit of an ego if you are actually a god in your dreams hikukomoru: You are confident futurist_wizard: If i swapped places with my dream self, 50% of the time i would be in hell hikukomoru: This means you have unresolved issues from childhood futurist_wizard: Wall is right next to me hey1_1hey: Whats up with me then? Why am I a litteral God in my dreams futurist_wizard: I do feel like this, I'm an extremely on edge person hey1_1hey: You are litterly sleeping lying down hikukomoru: I am going to start psychoanalyzing you hey1_1hey: How on gods green earth did you manage that hikukomoru: This means you feel vulnerable and helpless in your life futurist_wizard: Fracture on my knuckle hey1_1hey: If me and my dream self swapped for a day I would have 250 of the top fortune 500 companies, I would have a nobel prize in every catagory, I would be able to beat all notable strength world records while being injured. futurist_wizard: I've broke my hand before punching my wall, punching someone in a dream i had hikukomoru: Well ChatGPT is like a teacher in your pocket so I can understand it futurist_wizard: Bruh im weak as fuck in my dreams, my punches never hurt shit metaldragon01: Pain is temporary and it's easier to achieve things if you can accept the pain ahead of time hey1_1hey: I have absolutly no idea how that doesn't wake me up hey1_1hey: I always get attacked in my dreams but I am freakishly strong and nothing really "hurts" per say, its more just I have an incredible rush of adrenakine in my dream some how futurist_wizard: Stabbed by roadman dreams as well, ive had at least 3 of thoses, those are particularly scary because getting stabbed is something that could happen ldj: https://tenor.com/view/chill-dude-chill-dude-im-just-a-chill-dude-just-a-chill-dude-gif-15385961914175037407 hey1_1hey: I had an old friend (dont really speak to them anymore because they really were quite unstable) but anyway, they had realy horrible nightmares every night but she put it down to "the watcher" some omni opnipitent being that was in the dream, the craziest thing was that she drew it out and she even gave it pronouns and shit. Actually schziophrenic stuff metaldragon01: Outside of ai spaces metaldragon01: I'm starting to see "chatgpt told me" just about everywhere now..... hikukomoru: I never die in my dreams because I am built different futurist_wizard: I always get eaten and wake up before i get attacked hikukomoru: Like the moon crashing into earth or the sun swallowing earth or a giant tsunami flooding the world futurist_wizard: I have had many zombie end of the world dreams hikukomoru: I have lots of those futurist_wizard: Even though it was some of the most fucked up imaginary my brain has ever generated hikukomoru: The only dreams I remember are the cataclysmic world ending ones futurist_wizard: For some reason i find the dream i had last night very cool hey1_1hey: Also no, sadly not hey1_1hey: I used to get really quite bad dreams but thats when I had pretty bad depression but then I stopped being depressed one day and now I have good dreams almost exlusivly hikukomoru: I saw that rat futurist_wizard: The fucked up shit my brain generates futurist_wizard: Sometimes dream land is such bliss, but for me it can be extremely scary
spacetimetsunami: Based. czdct: but that's conservative I think czdct: 2035-2040 is my guess spacetimetsunami: Because that *will* happen spacetimetsunami: <@1352573784422350930> when do you think society will automate massive amounts of knowledge work with AI, making scientific, medical, and technological progress go super critical czdct: heck, that guy won't even give us a functioning economy once he's done czdct: nah ur right, ain't no way trump is giving us agi sarik0497: True, but speaking about Trump right now isn’t AGI related, unless you expect AGI within the next 4 years czdct: bet spacetimetsunami: I’ll formulate a different definition that encapsulates the societal change from the technology I am imagining czdct: if it can't give me a lap pillow or wipe my ass it's useless to me czdct: end of discussion czdct: agi is a ponzi scheme czdct: yeah, singular braincell spacetimetsunami: <@1352573784422350930> answer the AGI question……… st.sioux: that is so singular bro spacetimetsunami: Hahahaha czdct: it's a mistery how he didn't get his ass beaten up by other prisoners czdct: yeah imagine the guy sitting in the jail cell next to you get women parking their car in a close proximity just so you can here their stupid music all night spacetimetsunami: True. Although I’d never do anything he did. spacetimetsunami: But broke as shit spacetimetsunami: I’m strong spacetimetsunami: I better go then:) no rich tho st.sioux: no u wouldnt man czdct: eastern europe in general loves the whole strong rich man persona spacetimetsunami: That would cringe ME out spacetimetsunami: Id kms if i was him czdct: yeah it's bad spacetimetsunami: So cringe spacetimetsunami: Jesus Christ czdct: coming up to his jail cell with a car and playing music and stuff czdct: yeah in romania he received love letters from local women spacetimetsunami: Worse than Romanian for sure czdct: they'll turn him into a man czdct: he's about to become the bottom g once he arrives in american prison spacetimetsunami: Hope so spacetimetsunami: No clue spacetimetsunami: Okay Amy, assuming you’re actually legitimately a skeptic, what is your timeline’s for AGI czdct: didn't our top g get arrested once he entered the usa? czdct: very true
hey1_1hey: Just any drink futurist_wizard: I think its the boxing ive done that has given me brain damage hikukomoru: Yeah I could tell you suffered from some sort of brain damage zoermena: Furry reference? futurist_wizard: Yeah, had my first hit at 6, was a good one, had a stroke abundantliving_: cocktails? hikukomoru: Damn didn't know they were chill like that zoermena: Yo? futurist_wizard: My parents gave me cocaine not weed zoermena: The only thing that I drink which might be killing me is sugary juice zoermena: I avoid it like the plague I also dislike the taste in general hikukomoru: Fuck I read it as "my parents gave me a blunt" sieventer: <@749514473303179358> ! futurist_wizard: Its a big thing to them memlaswaif: don't drink it's cringe futurist_wizard: Only Americans care about drinking ages hikukomoru: Can't believe americans have to wait for so long hikukomoru: 16 is the legal age fro drinking here futurist_wizard: Could be worse futurist_wizard: Kids become alcoholics at 12 over here hikukomoru: 16 futurist_wizard: How old were you zoermena: Conservative mindset where they think that you need it to fit in hikukomoru: I was the one who begged my parents to let me drink futurist_wizard: My friends gave me a blunt to smoke but i rejected it before i smoked it zoermena: Most of my friends don’t drink it that often at most I’m very lucky memlaswaif: why does ure parent want u to drink futurist_wizard: Not even my friends sieventer: I mean, I think you should replace it alcohol for benzos - if your consumption is not daily futurist_wizard: Same my parents gave me alcohol futurist_wizard: I guess i was resilient to peer pressure zoermena: My parents keep pushing me to start drinking it so I can fit it but I’m to much of a nuisance to listen to them inferno0879: peer pressure, avoiding thinking about shit or dealing with problems, initial curiosity for me hikukomoru: Don't think I ever took benzos spicy.lemonade: Def sota spicy.lemonade: Kling tmr spicy.lemonade: futurist_wizard: Its not like its coke or something where it tastes nice futurist_wizard: I don't even know how people get into it inferno0879: since then
trojan09205: .histic: a life's worth trojan09205: im curious how much i just paid for those answers a1c4p0ne: O4 mini didn’t get a high score on simplebench tho trojan09205: i wasnt even sure that the request would go through with the name 'o4-mini' as the model name haha a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> trojan09205: that was the first question ive ever asked o4 mini lol. just modified my config file. definitely o4 mini 🙂 a1c4p0ne: Which answer do you like more and agree with st.sioux: o4 mini's answer is so much better holy trojan09205: im actually surprised i have access to o4 mini as a tier 1 api user trey6033: Competition is good trojan09205: easiest way to get shit as a rest endpoint with [fill in model] and can run on a peanut server .histic: OpenAI is giving ChatGPT Plus to students in the US for 2-months, while Google is now doing the same but for 1 year. https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1k1imn7/google_is_gifting_a_year_of_gemini_advanced_to/?sort=new trojan09205: i actually have built a few RAG apps at work with aichat its pretty dope a1c4p0ne: I want to see o3 play Pokemon st.sioux: hackerman trojan09205: when u serve it locally trojan09205: its packaged with this aichat software spicy.lemonade: L ui trojan09205: local LMArena 😄 trojan09205: spicy.lemonade: this is nice spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: new lmarena spicy.lemonade: https://beta.lmarena.ai/ trojan09205: Grok is ass spicy.lemonade: ? trey6033: Grok 3 Reasoning Beta and Grok 3 mini Reasoning’s scores for AIME 2025 at “@1” — meaning the first score the models got on the benchmark — fall below o3-mini-high’s score. Grok 3 Reasoning Beta also trails ever so slightly behind OpenAI’s o1 model set to “medium” computing. https://techcrunch.com/2025/02/22/did-xai-lie-about-grok-3s-benchmarks/ spicy.lemonade: o3 mini high gets 32% with tools professorheaven: How though? o1 gets 9% while o4 mini high gets 18%, that’s a 2x jump spicy.lemonade: also a breakthrough that can increase performance by 40 points is proof verification spicy.lemonade: if its multiplicative jump spicy.lemonade: o4 might kill it trey6033: Your price values aren't the price value of how they benched it anyway professorheaven: It’s funny because the FrontierMath developers themselves (EpochAI) predicted a median score of 75% by the end of the year. Their lower bound was 50% trey6033: They use cons@64 with extended thinking. Versus a single pass through for 2.5 flash ldj: https://tenor.com/view/praying-angel-emoji-emoticon-smiley-gif-15640677 st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/man-praying-black-man-praying-black-man-praying-and-crying-man-praying-and-crying-gif-23376408540985609 spicy.lemonade: <:redemption:1136265386984222771> spicy.lemonade:
alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, I think that goverment surveillance is an easy step we can take immediately to reduce crime significantly Learning from China and Singapore futurist_wizard: The realistic outcome is just gene editing violent behaviour out of us hikukomoru: Without any data you might as well be saying nothing trojan09205: they arent all these nonviolent creatures trojan09205: idk about the data but its a method of expression that women do as well alejandrozarzuelo: As you can see, the only issue is that we lack the will to give good therapy to everyone, with their particular needs of course Drugging people until they are well adjusted is also an option, but I don't like it because the goverment has less control over it futurist_wizard: Do women blackmail more than men? Is there data on this maintcrew: https://x.com/signulll/status/1915510860316840075 trojan09205: Both men and women can refine themselves and be great trojan09205: lot of sadistic women out there. trojan09205: yeah not 1:1 in expression. but the same thing underneath trojan09205: im not talking about catty gossip. im talking about lets say leveraging lies and the legal system to blackmail and destroy someone's life let's say. weaponized vindictiveness or you can look at the crimes using scopolamine or just other manipulative essentially violent destructive tendencies futurist_wizard: God damn futurist_wizard: Wow, that second paragraph took a turn futurist_wizard: I'll take a bunch of women giving me catty gossip than some caveman stabbing me to death because he had a bad day hikukomoru: I'm sorry, but it's really not the same thing as being responsible for 99% of violent murders alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah, but this doesn't explain why different groups of men have wildly different behaviours Also, this is nothing that the goverment can't fix, we just need to lobotomise everyone with behavioural problems, and if that means that men get disproportionately neutered then that's OK, we are fixing nature himekokatagiri: Soul isn't real futurist_wizard: Bruh trojan09205: worse to lose your soul and other nonphysical things sometimes himekokatagiri: I saw it on reddit trojan09205: it really depends on the situation. basically its the same violent urge to hurt and destroy hikukomoru: Why are you watching autistic incels man futurist_wizard: I'd rather take that then being stabbed to death futurist_wizard: Obviously culture is related, but the genetic predisposition for aggressive, anti social behaviours is well documented trojan09205: okay so just go wiki jeffrey dahmer but brace ur stomach trojan09205: idk how you guys will ignore the sheer manipulation and vindictiveness of women. violence takes on many forms himekokatagiri: ⚡ alejandrozarzuelo: I don't like to watch films himekokatagiri: I thought about it long and hard... himekokatagiri: I watched it and I was thinking about it trojan09205: watch the movie hikukomoru: Wtf is this video hikukomoru: Jeffrey Dahmer alejandrozarzuelo: Idk who that is futurist_wizard: It's deeper than just raw testosterone himekokatagiri: you know..... himekokatagiri: Dahmer was gay..... alejandrozarzuelo: This means that there is a need to control medical conditions on men due to this biological reality You know, by neutralising those effects in the brain of the men that are more prone to behavioural issues due to their biology BTW, trans men commit significantly fewer crime rates than cis men despite having similar testosterone levels Gay men also commit disproportionately less crime with similar testosterone levels hikukomoru: And I think you're deliberately ignoring the biological aspect of it Culture won't solve genes
hikukomoru: Might be heart disease himekokatagiri: Himeko things himekokatagiri: My heart skipped a beat for some reason fractalcomputer: That would fit the Iberian profile, I suspect. hikukomoru: exactly my type anathemaofmankind: Femcels are just women who are incels. Imagine how ugly you have to be, for guys to not be interested in you hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/rat-roedor-limpio-gif-14132762 hikukomoru: Women that look like drowned sewer rats hikukomoru: What are you looking at me like that for huh anathemaofmankind: Do you know what a femcel is hikukomoru: Yeah I can already tell you think real life women are yucky gross and probably say stuff like "2D > 3D" anathemaofmankind: So there's no specific discord server drewsni: reference to this drewsni: https://huggingface.co/datasets/nyuuzyou/archiveofourown/discussions?status=open&sort=recently-created anathemaofmankind: No shit that's why I asked anathemaofmankind: Is this a reference to something drewsni: WOULDNT U LIKE TO KNOW? ldj: Wdym by deepmind in this context anathemaofmankind: Which discord server was this drewsni: can someone save those discussion posts from the ao3 people so i can make a "saltbot69" anathemaofmankind: > Real femcels are disgusting anyway >Proceeds to post fictional girls as a counterargument darkstar0818: There are a few things you can do. The easiest for large projects is being sure you upload different classes as different files (its aware of file structure). Just be prescriptive on what you want for output 'fix x, y and z, only output the code of the classes (or functions) you modified. Or if you want to just see the specific fixes, say 'for each fix in a function, show me all of the lines between all lines fixed'. The model is smart enough to do whatever you want. himekokatagiri: <:suseye:1187461162024046703> hikukomoru: Toxic yuri bot 🤤 drewsni: saw this in another discord "you have to understand when i write kylo x ron fic it's transformative work but when someone else uses my kylo x ron fic to feed yaoibot69 it is theft" sarik0497: <@312370916820779040> I'm curious about your perspective when it comes to current AI architecture. Do you think it's really enough for AGI, or do you think something like what Deepmind and Lecun are doing right now with their respective models are the way forward? zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/kitty-gif-27687064 ldj: The real news is still good zonchao: <:Prayge:818931515291205643> trojan09205: Close to zero. Maybe try 0.25 ldj: Even employees often don’t know what’s really going on if it hasn’t been made official yet zonchao: nous employee tho himekokatagiri: even 'deleted' fics? himekokatagiri: doesn't AO3 rent their entire catalogue out .0xunkn0wn: what temperature hikukomoru: and fanfics hikukomoru: Yes AO3 is just smut trent_k: lmfao trent_k: hikukomoru: Omg I love AO3 not the community though
futurist_wizard: Everyone who follows Singularity related topics is weird sieventer: You don't have pfp or status :·( _3sphere: maybe there is a better way, but it'd probably end up being squishy like flesh _3sphere: Yes that's how flesh does it wellmeaningalien: is it actually gonnaa be gemini 2.5 pro image gen or is it routing gemini 2.0 flash or something? _3sphere: Imagine being a sheet metal robot that needs repairs all the damn time _3sphere: it can self-repair using just a few simple molecules that are found in random organic matter _3sphere: Flesh is actually underrated darkstar0818: there are baseline levels darkstar0818: its not just death zoermena: The weakness of the flesh in general abundantliving_: https://biology.stackexchange.com/questions/14106/why-is-dimethyltryptamine-dmt-released-during-death darkstar0818: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11576444/ saph.ai: https://tenor.com/view/tuh-buh-guh-cuh-what-gif-9750912507529527670 sieventer: Our brains are a piece of fucking shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit abundantliving_: thats just once in a lifetime darkstar0818: and DMT. _3sphere: Your brain already generates heroin darkstar0818: The one constant in the universe is.... popularity ruins everything. abundantliving_: if we could control this <:suseye:1187461162024046703> and install a brewry inside our body abundantliving_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto-brewery_syndrome _3sphere: God what am I even doing in this place what has my life become hikukomoru: It's got what plants crave! _3sphere: Degenerates easily outnumber nerds :3 fractalcomputer: It is a bit worrisome that r/singularity is larger than r/machinelearning and r/OpenAI. spacetimetsunami: Brondo _cloudost: darkstar0818: plants crave gatorade _3sphere: FDVR gooners are functionally plants st.sioux: plants love them st.sioux: buy electrolytes darkstar0818: just drink more water, easy. _3sphere: doesn't remove stuff, is just... water and electrolytes? 😭 _3sphere: oh so it's nonsense _3sphere: https://www.healthline.com/health/iv-for-hangover#how-it-works abundantliving_: tell me more _3sphere: the ketones or something that are left after idk fractalcomputer: Sheer willpower can go a long way. darkstar0818: ... how does an iv remove alcohol 😛 _3sphere: removes the remnants of the alcohol from the blood or smt
hikukomoru: No futurist_wizard: You got dumped? hey1_1hey: Im 18, thats like 2 decades older than ,e hey1_1hey: Old asf hikukomoru: I'm 20 alejandrozarzuelo: I don't even have a relationship now hey1_1hey: Misinfomation spreads fast huh hey1_1hey: Oh alright then hikukomoru: Fuck it you're all cucks alejandrozarzuelo: No? hey1_1hey: Alejandro are you a cuck hikukomoru: I'm getting confused hey1_1hey: Why tho? hikukomoru: Wait Alejandro is a cuck hey1_1hey: Alejnadro is prob the manliest man I know (Thats a lie) alejandrozarzuelo: Sweaters? technocake.: the second women can reproduce without sperm there will be a gender war for supremacy hikukomoru: Yeah you probably only hang out with other old straight white dudes hey1_1hey: If frac was here we'd be wiped from the face of the earth. Not for fetish posting but because we had a snippet of applied physics in the mix futurist_wizard: Alejandro mihrcelium: All it's missing are those sweaters of yours. futurist_wizard: You can be 6ft+ and a twink, but even then some muscle is still twink archetype zoermena: Thus the dissonance zoermena: I think that we have different target markets with different tastes hikukomoru: Who's a cuck? Whats happening maintcrew: nate u and me bro we the only straight normal ppl here alejandrozarzuelo: Wtf if this conversation hikukomoru: Wait wdym cucks Whats going on hey1_1hey: Get this guy outta here hikukomoru: Normalize femboys 🔥 technocake.: nope, but from half the women i talk to this is true hey1_1hey: thank you 😍 oooooooooog: that would make femboy sex normal thought wouldnt it??? hey1_1hey: I will fuck my self hey1_1hey: So yeah hey1_1hey: All my friends are gay so yeah mihrcelium: Don't let <@430269783112548362> see this comment. <:02S_SideEye:1275173727780474880> maintcrew: go fuck yourself pal hey1_1hey: AI is a bubble hikukomoru: He lives in a queer bubble
wellmeaningalien: btw mushroom man how long have u been taking them i heard some people get like really horrible anxiety a few months in maintcrew: i literally take random tolerance breaks for 1-2 weeks for both compounds just to prove to myself i got that dawg in me and nothing can make me addicted a1c4p0ne: zoermena: I've been suggested to try ashwaganda. hey1_1hey: 2000mg a day and I am golden futurist_wizard: Past 18 thats very difficult hey1_1hey: They are really cheap wellmeaningalien: next time im touching payroll im buying those fucking mushrooms maintcrew: its a give and take situation u obviously wont get lifelong friends after knowing them for 1 year hey1_1hey: Because I am not a nicotine addict (a loser) wellmeaningalien: BRO GIVE ME THEM FUCKING MUSHROOMS oooooooooog: e=mc^2 + ai zoermena: Oh no it isn't, I recently joined and left a Looksmaxxing server (I'm on a mission to improve how I look so I joined) this place is sane relative to that. .wolfnacht: i'm talkin abt some other server hey1_1hey: Its helped me a lot st.sioux: i am not a neet i am a force of god futurist_wizard: You go to some schizo as server for people waiting for AGJESUS to come save em and you expect them not to be cringe? hey1_1hey: The trouble I have is my brain thinks I should roll play a guy with a traumatic head injury and have no memory what so ever. I will have to do 50 practice problems down to do one skill because I straight up cant remember the steps on how to do it. I will also be asked to get something in the other room becasue I was already going there and then only do one of the things because from the time I have been told to the time I have got there I have already forgotton one of the things wellmeaningalien: lmao wellmeaningalien: and yet EKG says everything is correct with my heart maintcrew: 🔥 🔥 🔥 .wolfnacht: >problem with you everyone says this but idc. wellmeaningalien: sometimes a monster + red bull wellmeaningalien: bro i used to drink like one monster everyday maintcrew: i am employed hikukomoru: Aren't you a neet wellmeaningalien: this server is the most schizo NEET server ever zoermena: They call us cringe, I call us epic. a1c4p0ne: <:based:1136264604788473946> a1c4p0ne: It’s Geminis idea wellmeaningalien: im never going back on ritalin but im going to try to get like medikinet or whatever they have in france maintcrew: i mean why not try the good old redbull+zyn stack it works for me hikukomoru: Wtf why does he have a gun futurist_wizard: Like quite a bit .wolfnacht: why ppl in these NEET servers are so cringe ? wellmeaningalien: still need to try this lion's mane thing you say it makes you like god or something futurist_wizard: I do get brain dog though on elvanse a1c4p0ne: hey1_1hey: God I wish I had meds. I would be an unstopable machine zoermena: I'm now on a mission to get back to my peak
.histic: trojan09205: Lol we can compete with the AI agents who in turn use AI agents st.sioux: people should start using ai to make money so they realize its useful trojan09205: Lmao was just messing around with stability video APi st.sioux: wtf is this lmao trojan09205: https://youtu.be/qX-ZOJA4kXE?si=Ikxegq9lHTl_qHen st.sioux: i think its good that they're not using ai... it opens up more opportunities for us trojan09205: I made these with AI like a year ago https://youtu.be/wxAp7m_BdVM?si=DoSWUE41X3wX8wq_ trojan09205: I mean so yeah he could have just put together diff stuff and made that. A lot of developers play with AI I think the problem is your trust in your friend lmao popsiclejohnithan: technocake.: he might be an enthusiast st.sioux: experience in IT does not necessarily translate to ai knowledge popsiclejohnithan: dr.banemortem: I'm a curious and intrested normie he doesnt have a degree but he works as the IT guy where I work trojan09205: Most normies have no idea what AI actually means/does beyond chatbots and random apps technocake.: I think that's what he did, AI can def produce those images dr.banemortem: He is definitely full of shit but every once in a while he is telling the truth trojan09205: I mean you can ask an image AI generator to change the same base image with small changes technocake.: and this makes it likely he's full of shit or doesn't know what he's talking about dr.banemortem: Exactly,he might used the ai for the script and then did the power point himself technocake.: That honestly makes it less likely to be AI dr.banemortem: Lol no late 20s technocake.: Honest question, are you a minor? I ask this because knowing will help me give better answers dr.banemortem: Lol,<:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946> trojan09205: Gotta pick better friends m8 dr.banemortem: Well he is more optimistic than the Shapiro guy trojan09205: Its the least AI video type thing ive ever seen tbh st.sioux: this is almost a cult dr.banemortem: He is soooooo ai hyped dr.banemortem: Because I dont trust him he is a pathological liar lol st.sioux: why dont you just ask your friend trojan09205: I mean its a very short “video” just the same slide on repeat with a small shift dr.banemortem: But not a video generator like imogen ? dr.banemortem: I see so maybe an agent with an api dr.banemortem: Like the small number in the middle of the screen dr.banemortem: I see many small mistakes technocake.: It's definitely possible to produce a system that can do this, I don't know of one though dr.banemortem: That power point presentation ? Right ? dr.banemortem: Can current AIs do full videos like this minus the music ? https://youtube.com/shorts/9-euQ5ENH88?si=IW-z-a3Vp3MSsUqg. My friend is telling he made this whole video using only ai and only added the music I kinda dont believe him technocake.: I do think that modern physics has higher utility towards utilitarian ends that are common instrumental goals of those seeking meaning, and I think I can prove it in a loose sense
wellmeaningalien: fxtwitter? hey1_1hey: scary hey1_1hey: Ik hey1_1hey: Women wellmeaningalien: its just as u can see wellmeaningalien: anytime man hikukomoru: Wtf is this hey1_1hey: I was joking but thank you anyway <:LOL:1187460826572005436> wellmeaningalien: duolingo idfk _3sphere: Coronation of our new goon king hey1_1hey: Where can I start learning spanish ailoveyoom: No I already have plenty 😎 wellmeaningalien: im pinging komoru now <@430269783112548362> youve been replaced as the server gooner wellmeaningalien: <@505313122802728972> this is for u wellmeaningalien: the prompt was in japanese btw st.sioux: looking for material? ailoveyoom: <@505313122802728972> In all your gooning do you have any iconic lines that you remember? wellmeaningalien: y do people make so many of these glass animals? .wolfnacht: nope it's still quite schizo but maybe with the right preset and temps it can work, i never really used V3...since it was the worst when the older one came out. hikukomoru: Is the new DeepSeek the one u use the most? .wolfnacht: i go back to 12-19 from openrouter, once i hit the limit hey1_1hey: My research has been complete and I can confirm deep seek is in fact freaky asf hikukomoru: My wife .histic: .wolfnacht: ofc, it's literally best rn....but i hate the limits. ailoveyoom: The Jan 2025 cutoff date for 2.5 is so goated especially if you do existing characters hikukomoru: Nah, prompts are better if you want a high-class gooning experience hikukomoru: Have u tried 2.5 .wolfnacht: suddenly it ain't repetetive like before wellmeaningalien: really cool for that china .wolfnacht: new V3's good. i'm waiting for presets and temps wellmeaningalien: deepseek is pretty uncensored except if u ask it about taiwan _3sphere: can't you send your advanced fantasies straight into the API wellmeaningalien: ailoveyoom: Don't need no fancy prompts wellmeaningalien: man i just never get tired of posting these 4o images theyre just so impressive ailoveyoom: Nah bro Deepseek is freaky hey1_1hey: No need, I'll just vibe code deepseek with cursor rq hikukomoru: You have to use a frontend lil bro wellmeaningalien: wake up bae more studio ghibli style slop
destrucules: Honestly possibly... 8-40 years, actually destrucules: For ASI? Now. For ASIs that think of humans as bacteria? Well, I would say... A bacterium has, on the order of, 10 million base pairs in its genome, and maybe 10k genes total. If the GRN is essentially the brain of the bacterium, there's like... O(10k) total parameters at most. And a bacterium lives for like, a day. Maybe a few days. So about 10^5 seconds. I'll be generous and say there are 10^4 gene "activations" per second, so 10^9 total activations in the bacterium's lifespan. We're on the order of like... 10^23±1, so 13-15 OOMs above bacteria. We're currently scaling at about 1 OOM per year. So, naively, exponentially, 13-15 years. Then again, we're actually going to get a rapid uptick soon, and then hit logistical limits. So... Idk, I'd say 10-40 years. precariousworlds.: Ok destrucules: First read the paper I just sent. Then I'll add more precariousworlds.: What are your personal timelines precariousworlds.: Is there any more conclusive evidence of this trend destrucules: We're many many OOMs away from that. I think we do need to solve that problem, but we have plenty of time destrucules: Moral reasoning and self confidence both scale with intelligence. So ASIs will have more of this. More wisdom. More self assertiveness. precariousworlds.: We could be thought of to a super intelligence as bacteria One flaw in alignment is enough to sideline our entire existence destrucules: It's not doom, but it's better. Much better. Not perfect but much better destrucules: Absolutely destrucules: https://arxiv.org/abs/2502.08640 precariousworlds.: But surely the argument here is that those flaws and imperfections take on a mass scale when it comes to superintelligence destrucules: I want to make that clear. They're flawed like we are flawed destrucules: Like... Objective in the sense math is objective, but not objective in the sense of like... The AIs are perfect destrucules: There is convergent morality precariousworlds.: One that is favourable to our survival and flourishing destrucules: No precariousworlds.: Really? That seems pretty crazy, and we're certain of that? So basically there is such a thing as objective morality destrucules: ABD happened, ABD deniers on LW can suck it destrucules: That is empirically true destrucules: Yes precariousworlds.: Forgive me if I'm being stupid as I'm not that knowledgeable on how AI is currently being trained, but are you saying that current models are independently establishing pro-human value systems instead of being trained to do so? destrucules: Because current LLM value systems don't come from moral training (RLHF) - they come from pretraining, and are resistant to RLHF precariousworlds.: But how do we know current training on morality will hold for superintelligent models that won't obtain their own moral systems and goals that are not positive to us? destrucules: I do. The problem with Yudkowsky's model is the Orthogonality thesis, which is actually moral relativism in disguise. It is an anthropocentric view of morality as an arbitrary human cultural norm with no inherent grounding, so ASIs would select among a set of possible value functions that is unforeseeable to us, and thus effectively random to us, and most such random values don't include sentient beings flourishing throughout the cosmos. The problem is, models today actually *do* want that. And Yudkowsky hasn't updated hard enough on this evidence. Moral relativism is being empirically disproven as models are demonstrated to have coherent and prosocial value systems destrucules: We should try to build intuitive bridges across these domains, absolutely. Scaling is scaling, whether at training time or test time. You can, if you want, think of reasoning models as windows into what further pretraining scaling would yield. Anyway... Based on these scaling trends, a GPT-5.5 level model would score around 91-92 on GPQA Diamond, if the ceiling is around 100, or less if the ceiling is lower (if the ceiling is 90, then 5.5 would achieve an 88) Upper 80s on LiveCodeBench ~100 on MATH-500 99 on AIME 2024 wellmeaningalien: top 1 retard behavior: comparing non reasoning model with resoning precariousworlds.: Does anyone have any good rebuttals to Eliezer Yudkowsky He seems to be treated as a laughing stock but I haven't seen any good counterargument to his doomerism, and how serious he is that ASI is automatic death for Humanity When we are talking about the fate of all life itself I think a really really convincing set of arguments is needed from the acceleration crowds destrucules: Besides underperforming in MMLU-Pro (theoretical is low 90s or at least upper 80s, even with saturation effects, for a pure pretraining based approach) Gemini 2.5 Pro is effectively a GPT-5 level model (100x effective compute over GPT-4). This assumes: Llama 2 7B is about on par with GPT-3; Gemini 1.0 Pro is about on par with GPT-3.5; Qwen2-72B Instruct is about on par with GPT-4; and V3.1 is about 10x effective compute over GPT-4. Maybe slightly over that. wellmeaningalien: wellmeaningalien: we need goku to deal with this wellmeaningalien: llm powers scaling has gone too far hikukomoru: Re Zero is fucking peak hikukomoru: Bitch why theaiguy69420_89814: Is this the end of the USA? theaiguy69420_89814: Brother the market is down 4% futures destrucules: They do half of the calculations. They notice that 30 trillion tokens is bigger than 1-2 billion seconds. They also notice, separately, that the models are much smaller than the brain. They fail to recognize that these are connected facts. destrucules: Note, Gemma 3 4B is trained on 4T tokens, 6 x 4e9 x 4e12 = 9.6e22 activations, and matches median human intelligence across many benchmarks, especially core general intelligence benchmarks spacetimetsunami: I hear people who seem knowledgeable so often site the difference in computational efficiency between neural nets, LLMs and the brain. What are they referring to if not this?
spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: its based on metr spicy.lemonade: the name of the benchmark alejandrozarzuelo: ? spicy.lemonade: metr spicy.lemonade: ohhh alejandrozarzuelo: what <@312370916820779040> has already shared a few times alejandrozarzuelo: This means that AGI will happen either in 2032-34 if current trends continue exponentilly or 2028 if the hyperbolic spike turns out to be fundamental and not a fluke spicy.lemonade: link? spicy.lemonade: whats t-agi? spicy.lemonade: o4 medium might get 45+ with tools spicy.lemonade: like 12% alejandrozarzuelo: personally i have never seen a more compelling argument and stronger evidence for a concrete path to AGI than the t-AGI argument after the t-AGI has started to produce meaningful datapoints (before it was like one ms and stuff), it is clear that this is the best way to measure progress and i suspect this is what sam altman meant when he said that we have a clear view of the path to AGI spicy.lemonade: without tool use spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: o3 mini high with tool use gets 32% frontier math spicy.lemonade: not a crazy change spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: i just added 6 months spicy.lemonade: yes they say super coding agets mid-late 2027. and agi released late 2027 alejandrozarzuelo: just that paper? alejandrozarzuelo: yes but what caused you to be so mistakenly optimistic spicy.lemonade: i just reread the ai 2027 paper spicy.lemonade: just 1 year spicy.lemonade: before it was 2027 alejandrozarzuelo: why were you so optimistic that has forced you to lenghthen your timeline spicy.lemonade: 2028 +/- 1 year spicy.lemonade: eh wtv spicy.lemonade: wait nvm late 2027 spicy.lemonade: agi 2028 spicy.lemonade: im lengthening my timeline spicy.lemonade: deepseek doesnt even have this much wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/bullish-crypto-hype-i-want-more-lets-do-this-gif-1852269844701917269 bob082957: return_to_monke1_33974: petition for Elon Ma to give all the compute to Google : spicy.lemonade: xai needs to work on computatyional efficiency not scale spicy.lemonade: elon is going the wrong way spicy.lemonade: wolf3404: New model architecture wolf3404: Anyone tried this yet?
hikukomoru: ldj: it's technologically unique from the standpoint that you would need probably atleast dozens of terabytes of google earth data on your computer in order to achieve the same thing locally, where-as this is able to achieve it with a set of weights that would may be less than 300GB on your PC nsec: <:allsalute:797931437973569556> nsec: that long text writer mam hikukomoru: He's not a random guy hikukomoru: He also works with DeepMind nsec: here he come nsec: oshit gamerbath: if he did have access to any info, he would be under an NDA, meaning he wouldn't be allowed to post like that hikukomoru: He doesn't work FOR them but he works WITH them gamerbath: I think o4 will be in GPT-5 aero447: He's an early tester we know he gets access. gamerbath: he doesn't even work at OAI. it's just speculation aero447: You have something against o4? aero447: Derya confirms o4 full. gamerbath: no aero447: nsec: <:welldone:429630480594501633> nsec: my name is nsec and if you’ll indulge me, I’d like to change the world nsec: allow me to introduce myself nsec: for those of u who do not yet know me nsec: u know that I will settle for nothing short of greatness, or I will die trying nsec: for those of u who know me, u will be aware by now that my ambition is unlimited hikukomoru: nsec: she knows me well nsec: <:welldone:429630480594501633> nsec: good question ask your mother literallyvarane: Im sleep on it. Doesn’t strike me as something wildly impressive. It’s just an inferior Google maps for that particular use case. Impressive AI demos should demonstrate something that’s uniquely enabled by AI, either in time performance, quality of output, price or some mixture of the three. hikukomoru: nsec: nsec: jesse what the FUCK are u talking about hikukomoru: I look like this retrerox: I mean many test that allowed our species to grown has been done on rats...} nsec: we aint ever gettin agi nsec: its over nsec: mfs are discussin rats retrerox: nsec: we got agi yet nsec: SINGULARITY PEEPS nsec: ELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
zonchao: why do all the pro art poasters on twitter beg for money when their posts go viral 😭 fractalcomputer: Certainly. fractalcomputer: I find the society of the Culture thoroughly repulsive and diseased. But Banks manages to paint it as a haven from an even worse, horrific universe where the sins of man are reflected across the alien star scape. precariousworlds.: The best people are the ones you listen closely to when they have a different opinion to you hey1_1hey: Its not his you need to worry about precariousworlds.: only top 500 seems reasonable hey1_1hey: He made me think he was thinking about it in his free time. Top 500 smurf sex ponderer in Europe fractalcomputer: I like Banks for the sole reason I like any author, be he philosopher or simply a fiction writer, in general; he manages to make me like things that I fundamentally disagree with. precariousworlds.: I shudder to think about his search history precariousworlds.: bro was locked in hey1_1hey: Alejandro would take great offense to that. He got really into the smurf sex discussiom precariousworlds.: need to read culture series precariousworlds.: fractal coming in clutch with an actually interesting discussion 🫡 hey1_1hey: Suppringly enough hey1_1hey: I dont hey1_1hey: NO hikukomoru: Wdym? You don’t usually ponder Smurf reproduction? hey1_1hey: Please don't say you're a smurf sex enjoyer aswell... sarik0497: Yeah…Maybe death isn’t so bad after all… fractalcomputer: To lighten the mood, I think there are some interesting parallels between Herbert's Dune and Banks' The Culture series. The former is about humans - extremely alien humans, sure - but it still a story ultimately about humans and humanity. Banks' is a saga of machine and human analogues trying to find meaning in a perfect society in an imperfect cosmos. The former is a story of the ways one can be inhuman whereas the latter is a story of all the myriad ways one can be human. hey1_1hey: He was trying to gas light me into thinking thats its a normal thing to think about hikukomoru: And worse of all talking about it without me hey1_1hey: I blame Alejandro for talking about the reproduction heirarchy of smurfs hikukomoru: Why are people talking about Smurf sex precariousworlds.: i scrolled up for 30 seconds and was resisting the urge to kill myself 😭 sarik0497: I just came on, and I’m already thinking “What the hell.” sweetievee__33649: i think i might have to start believing in miracles precariousworlds.: the last 50 messages in this channel are genuinely painful to read Jesus wept zoermena: Worst mistake of my life zoermena: When I was a kid I remember looking up an ad for this soda called squirt zonchao: https://x.com/squirtle_says/status/1906550471415996541? zoermena: In the movie the female Smurf was artificially made I think czdct: maybe he would like us to generate images like this instead alejandrozarzuelo: thats how life works alejandrozarzuelo: idk why people are icky with biology alejandrozarzuelo: it is alejandrozarzuelo: if colony reproductive behavior is your kink... ok go for it but personally i am more of a social-individualist species enjoyer gamerbath: https://x.com/t_blom/status/1906438171371655275 czdct: this is a serious biological discussion alejandrozarzuelo: goon?
spicy.lemonade: 2 czdct: it took them 2 years to go from gpt3.5 to gpt o3 ailoveyoom: Feels like 20 years spicy.lemonade: and the hype started with gpt 4 spicy.lemonade: its only been 2 years spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: 2 years ago spicy.lemonade: keep in mind gpt3.5 released spacetimetsunami: It would be like finding a literal valley full of diamonds, and some annoying idiot going “hey!! Yall are stoopid n shit there’s way more diamonds 20 miles west!” *looks at her like one looks at a crackhead* “Uhm…No… I’m gonna stay here. Thanks?” spicy.lemonade: gpt 5 will probaly have native image and the ability to reason over that which would lead to some very cool capabilities on its own ailoveyoom: And hopefully break me too ailoveyoom: That will make or break timelines 🥵 ailoveyoom: Just wait till GPT-5 🙏 shirethedreamer: universal predictors do be doing that spicy.lemonade: llms are the only clear path spicy.lemonade: you have to provide proof. yans jepa hasnt taken us anywhere yet spacetimetsunami: Jesus spacetimetsunami: I have to stop doing this spacetimetsunami: Ah fuck, same spicy.lemonade: to deny llms spacetimetsunami: I am honered st.sioux: its so late and i cant figure out if i should sleep or just stay awake spacetimetsunami: Jesus Christ czdct: what in the erotic fiction is this? spicy.lemonade: burden on proof is on yan types shirethedreamer: not only a troll but someone that created a new discord user just to troll here you guys should be honored spicy.lemonade: doesnt spicy.lemonade: yan currently spicy.lemonade: to support his claim spicy.lemonade: ilya has alot spicy.lemonade: ailoveyoom: Literally me (the last part) czdct: oh no... ailoveyoom: You play Inzoi 😍 spacetimetsunami: *joins server* “I’m gonna be very cringe” *does that* “I’m cumming” spicy.lemonade: "🍀 " spacetimetsunami: <@1352573784422350930> is most certainly a troll. She simply can’t be real. czdct: this is like fishing in an aquarium czdct: me neither st.sioux: this is so dumb
spicy.lemonade: gemini2.5 spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: epochAI are openAi shills spicy.lemonade: bro spicy.lemonade: no brain4brain: Any comparison with other model? spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: optimus alpha manmarshall_92172: Did you guys get Veo 2 on your google AI studio? okbut: Also learned ChatGPT simply concatenates these sections with the "Anything else ChatGPT should know about you?" field That explains why it never actually calls me nerd <:madge:831946367462670338> brain4brain: It’s available on Gemini website and app brain4brain: Gemini spicy.lemonade: cant fucking wait spicy.lemonade: okbut: Today I learned you can see the prompt that GPT generates and forwards to image gen within your exported data .json manmarshall_92172: Is Google Deep research accessible on Google AI studio? brain4brain: He better do brain4brain: Never doubt OpenAI. brain4brain: All the examples that he have given is already partially beaten okbut: Most people go with the more coherent "Can do almost all the jobs in the workforce" though christiskingrapturenxtmonth: Yep, proto-AGI this week, and ASI eoy okbut: End of year 100% okbut: <a:pepeFlatline:756182021151391894> christiskingrapturenxtmonth: AGI capable of RSI, bootstrapping itself to ASI and the Singularity okbut: Describe your dream AGI a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/abacaj/status/1911529618089427122?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/john-dancing-bang-gif-19680277 a1c4p0ne: Demis said 2030 zonchao: cope<:reedly:1122484993097216052> a1c4p0ne: What about Demi’s prediction spicy.lemonade: dr al,an vindicated christiskingrapturenxtmonth: AGI 2025 no longer a schizo prediction spicy.lemonade: "we managed to make gpt5 better than we expected" spicy.lemonade: they did say christiskingrapturenxtmonth: I thought that would've happened Q4. I wonder if R2 will beat it a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/fuckin-great-kill-youself-shot-myself-stewie-suicide-gif-12287606 okbut: a1c4p0ne: <:rolf:1136266740754550784> a1c4p0ne: Like usual a1c4p0ne: Pro users first right then plus
fractalcomputer: They're citing Yudkowsky as one of their sources on an intelligence feedback loop. spicy.lemonade: They say agi full futurist_wizard: The techno grinch spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: Basically you interact with the system for 24 hours theaiguy69420_89814: What's the variant? spicy.lemonade: Kurzweil was right theaiguy69420_89814: Relax theaiguy69420_89814: Guys we're all just talking about AI here.. alright? spicy.lemonade: alejandrozarzuelo: I don't see why this is shooting myself in the foot I find your attitude needlessly confrontational and extremely rude, as you not just disagree, you belittle and in certain cases even insult others for having opinions you disagree You could just have said: I don't think that 2029 the field will advance to any significant degree towards AGI But no, you HAD to say it that way, it makes every conversation you take part in unpleasant .wolfnacht: nvm .wolfnacht: can i get the full link to paper ? fractalcomputer: Try not to shoot yourself in the foot. alejandrozarzuelo: Certainly fractalcomputer: Alejandro, the same could be said of many of your opinions that you have very vocally announced here. memlaswaif: deepseek agi 2026 then .wolfnacht: someone invite a reminder bot alejandrozarzuelo: You are such a bother to be around This is just a personal opinion, noone asked for this, I am just making a statement .wolfnacht: kys Carl-bot#1536: Time is either in an inappropriate location, which must be either at the end or beginning of your input, or I just flat out did not understand what you meant. Sorry. .wolfnacht: !remind me 1826 days. zonchao: if google can do it by 2030,openai agi 2028 confirmed alejandrozarzuelo: Mathematics does in fact require linking proofs one after the other We start with some axioms, and we work from there That's what mathematics is all about, coherent statements backed by previous ones spicy.lemonade: I believe them spicy.lemonade: Deepmind is more trustworthy in terms of research than openAI spicy.lemonade: https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-media/DeepMind.com/Blog/evaluating-potential-cybersecurity-threats-of-advanced-ai/An_Approach_to_Technical_AGI_Safety_Apr_2025.pdf fractalcomputer: Watch as absolutely nothing happens. spicy.lemonade: True agi by Demi’s definition 2030 spicy.lemonade: 2029 spicy.lemonade: Oh shit fractalcomputer: Very evidently you think that mathematics is a case of stringing together maximally coherent statements. alejandrozarzuelo: If you think this is what I was referring to, then you didn't understand my comment spicy.lemonade: This is the first time a research lab has written in a paper the exact date zonchao: https://x.com/midjourney/status/1907448337047208281? big spicy.lemonade: Bruh spicy.lemonade: 2030 spicy.lemonade: wtf spicy.lemonade: alejandrozarzuelo: The brain can only store so much information There could be proofs that require more information than the brain could allocate completely, which would mena mo human would ever understand it It's less computational angle, and more information theory angle, although I suppose that is a branch of computation
.wolfnacht: morning, R2 dropping wen ? nsec: spicy.lemonade: keep that in mind spicy.lemonade: thats also a big difference between the 2 models spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: o1 couldnt use tools professorheaven: Well o3 gets around 9% without any tools, o1 was not using any tools on those questions so we should only compare o3 using no tools st.sioux: whatever st.sioux: not 4 subreddits actually just 2 but 4 times st.sioux: if you go to this guy's profile he posted the same comment 4 times on different subreddits _letterbox: https://www.reddit.com/r/DegenBets/comments/1k8kkf2/deepmind_ceo_believes_all_diseases_will_be_cured/mp874ue/ And people say we'll have immortality soon <:LOL:1187460826572005436> a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/microplastics-tom-and-jerry-yummy-gif-25682895 st.sioux: i am actually a 3 year old st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/lewissaunderson38-lewissaunderson-cry-crying-cry-meme-gif-11499408157122608476 ldj: Even worse than Gen z ldj: This is like peak Gen alpha brain rot ldj: That is brain damage ldj: You are st.sioux: dont even know why st.sioux: i have watched spencer like 15 times zoermena: Crazy? I was crazy once st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-whtie-and-black-cry-praying-looking-up-gif-553441503240360994 st.sioux: i thought i was crazy st.sioux: me too trojan09205: tbh with the way i watch films it usually takes me a couple days to finish one i just leave it open and watch a few minutes here and there trojan09205: i recently really enjoyed 'The Master' with joaquin phoenix and SPH trojan09205: i love when people are passionate about specific films haha okbut: Oh there's also coding with water, in every death he's in water, tied to how he never learned to swim trojan09205: Today i did like a few miles each way to go to lunch at family and i took a manual scooter. definitely had to be hyper aware of everything on my sidewalk paths trojan09205: the older i get the more i truly value the small things and see their impact trojan09205: unfortunately or fortunately thats how life works my bro. we hang on by threads and destiny changes constantly (imo) okbut: I remember riding, even bottle caps can through you off a sharp turn okbut: The motorcycle accident was filmed without the right direction though since he wasn't obviously hitting a sharp turn, but a big leaf really can throw a bike off its wheels trojan09205: ive just been trying to flood my brain with new content as of late trojan09205: seems like i should give it a rewatch at some point okbut: Leaf causing the parents to meet, the motorcycle accident, the demand for a pool cleaner, the guiding of Anna to the circle, etc okbut: Which is how almost all of them begin or end okbut: Every scene with a leaf or butterfly is showing that timeline shift due to butterfly effect trojan09205: I can't say i actually gave it that much thought but i really liked it. people like to shit on jared leto but i think he's a fantastic actor okbut: Timeline shift, butterfly effect
hikukomoru: Alehandro what's a gay wolf futurist_wizard: A geay wolf hikukomoru: gay wolf? anathemaofmankind: Gemini 2.5 pro will be SOTA for me in the following months until OAI drops GPT 5. 1 M context and good context retrieval. The best creative writing model futurist_wizard: People have died over it alejandrozarzuelo: we took a gray wolf and we modified the DNA to make it "look" similar to the fossils of dire wolf we know of this means that the genetic composition of the neodire wolf is completely different to the original dire wolf, but they look very similar you can have 2 different species that arent even remotely reproductivally compatible that look nearly identical futurist_wizard: Tribes sometimes think photos steal their soul wellmeaningalien: hmmmmm futurist_wizard: they would think its Satanic black magic futurist_wizard: Genetic specimen hikukomoru: Bring back Neanderthals and show them TikTok 🙏 futurist_wizard: wellmeaningalien: what is it's genetic make up alejandrozarzuelo: but it is not a dire wold wellmeaningalien: OK BUT EXPLAIN A LIL MORE alejandrozarzuelo: a completely new species that looks alike the dire wolf st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/jalen-hurts-jalen-hurts-meek-mill-i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-gif-13709870523385828441 hikukomoru: Google yesterday was for enterprises Not us plebs alejandrozarzuelo: it i a new species that had never before seen the light of day futurist_wizard: Pls futurist_wizard: Deextincted a dodo bird anathemaofmankind: Imagine it brings up random shit in a new chat bruh spicy.lemonade: Same with Google drops spicy.lemonade: This week was such a dev week wellmeaningalien: so what IS it anathemaofmankind: I don't even want that anathemaofmankind: OpenAI over hikukomoru: Yawn anathemaofmankind: Sounds boring af hikukomoru: I wish 🙏 spicy.lemonade: Lame spicy.lemonade: For last convos alejandrozarzuelo: its a "neo"dire wolf spicy.lemonade: It’s gonna be memory spicy.lemonade: Wait literallyvarane: Maybe it’s some really improved Her or personal assistant experience. alejandrozarzuelo: the "dire wolf" that has been "deextincted" is not the same species as the original "dire wolf" literallyvarane: Not a feature wellmeaningalien: nah even sota not enough for these mfs literallyvarane: This was a model no?
maintcrew: forgor about llama tf they be doing <:LOL:1187460826572005436> ailoveyoom: Worried for Llama 4 lol maintcrew: claude 4, gpt 5, grok 4, r2 maintcrew: i think all big players _3sphere: maybe continuous learning is the only path spicy.lemonade: gpt 5? spicy.lemonade: r2? _3sphere: Long term memory is the hardest, it has to actually *use* its memory well spicy.lemonade: frontier math is projected to surpass 50% this year wonder which model will do it maintcrew: thats exactly what sakanas ai cuda auto generator did _3sphere: Anything made by refining current LLMs still has workable "common sense" _3sphere: That kind of misalignment is ASI stuff _3sphere: doubt it will maintcrew: (2) too much agency and it will start removing evals and call it a job done maintcrew: like have it be upside down maintcrew: and it takes it maintcrew: sama ssaid should be fixed soon but in the meantime u can flip the image around anathemaofmankind: It censors the output if I include a demon girl sitting on the mound. I don't know why. It's ruining my story spicy.lemonade: biggest things needed for swe 1. long term memory and remember important stuff, and more context 2. agency on the level of which it can test code, see whats happening and determine erors and fix on its own 3. go online and read docs thoroughly and even maybe watch youtube vids for examples(some docs are bad) alejandrozarzuelo: (energy is old school physics) alejandrozarzuelo: Her videos on energy are generally good alejandrozarzuelo: you can, but not all dogs are willing to be taught maintcrew: idk ive tried to watch a few times but its always on some doomer shit _3sphere: 4o in general _3sphere: OpenAI is chilling out with the censorship nowadays maintcrew: so u cant teach old dogs a new trick _3sphere: Sabine when I use Claude 3.8 to make a 1000km particle accelerator in orbit alejandrozarzuelo: like, she is the classic old conservative who is very skilled at their topic but who doesnt move on with the times well alejandrozarzuelo: in old school stuff alejandrozarzuelo: sabine is good _3sphere: Remember when Sabine's "beef" was with superdeterminism and black hole info paradox instead of how particle physics is a fraud and how everything is hype _3sphere: unless there's a massively underestimated roadblock with executive function _3sphere: Software engineering being on the way out in the next decade or two was foreseeable with GPT-3 and obvious with reasoners spicy.lemonade: but the cope on its capability is annoying maintcrew: maintcrew: no spicy.lemonade: understandable spicy.lemonade: sure spicy.lemonade: you hate ai spicy.lemonade: and rejecting info
himekokatagiri: idk honestly I wrote down a bunch of animes hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/cha-hae-in-cha-hae-solo-leveling-my-beloved-gif-17520680766107878414 joaoluz19: Isekai most himekokatagiri: I don't like Isekai hikukomoru: Do you mostly watch Seinen joaoluz19: CHA HAE joaoluz19: Most anime involves tragedy, I wouldn't copy an anime hikukomoru: Idk Some random isekai Grind skills Level up Become god himekokatagiri: I guess Haruhi sounds fun himekokatagiri: what anime hikukomoru: I'll sell my house, my kidneys, whatever, for a taste of irl anime joaoluz19: joaoluz19: I'll sell my house if he does joaoluz19: Aaaah I get it lol joaoluz19: What himekokatagiri: He'll be rich himekokatagiri: Get him to collab with mihoyo a1c4p0ne: <:based:1136264604788473946> a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634> hikukomoru: But then again he doesn't have a good track record hikukomoru: I would cheer him on if only it was waifus instead of ai friends drewsni: i remember when i mogged perplexity when i exposed their system prompt oooooooooog: having an ornamental braid or fastening consisting of a spindle-shaped button and a loop. st.sioux: what is frogged oooooooooog: would you rather be mogged or frogged a1c4p0ne: This is old but funny st.sioux: a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> a1c4p0ne: st.sioux: he thought the broccoli fade would fool us st.sioux: cyborg joaoluz19: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1kcc8mu/zuckerberg_says_meta_is_creating_ai_friends_the/ hahahahahaha trojan09205: aero447: 😂 aero447: The post-scarcity FakeTaxi vids will go hard. zonchao: robotaxi trojan09205: Veo2 is my Jam trojan09205: How do you like it bro zovark: Grok sucks aero447: Many such cases.
spicy.lemonade: havent typoed a single line of code 😭 theaiguy69420_89814: but for old projects sometimes re-inserting into cursor screws things up theaiguy69420_89814: i use it for every new projecct theaiguy69420_89814: its insanely good spicy.lemonade: didnt know cursor was this good spicy.lemonade: with llm spicy.lemonade: this wouldve taken me 2 days theaiguy69420_89814: wdym spicy.lemonade: gone spicy.lemonade: 2 days of possible work spicy.lemonade: wow spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: i did theaiguy69420_89814: Windsurf is even better, but more expensive theaiguy69420_89814: Do not tell me you only downloaded it now... zoermena: I think everyone has access using Google ai studio zoermena: Homo mentioned, when can I get my femboys zoermena: So I’ve heard spicy.lemonade: all my life spicy.lemonade: bro whyere has cursor been futurist_wizard: greater london yes spicy.lemonade: cursor is the greatest piece of tech ever alejandrozarzuelo: i looked it up and surrey is just a london suburb alejandrozarzuelo: ah, so london futurist_wizard: alejandrozarzuelo: you are from surrey? spicy.lemonade: cursor is fucking insane futurist_wizard: Sub consciously futurist_wizard: I like having a surrey accent as it makes foreigners (especially americans) think i have more authority when i speak alejandrozarzuelo: you know like that classic hollywood accent that was half way between american east cost and upper class british alejandrozarzuelo: I think it will be a neo-mid-atlantic accent futurist_wizard: American accent will eat the others in total globalism, its over alejandrozarzuelo: btw, equality is also the reason why we stopped wearing hats and our fashion became homogeneous futurist_wizard: But the dominant accent is boring 😔 American alejandrozarzuelo: i mean, SUUURE some sociolects do remain, but modern society is extremely not-classist (as in we dont consider nobles and peasants different classes) alejandrozarzuelo: this is the same reason why sociolects are basically extinct now alejandrozarzuelo: of course dialect/accent death is much weaker and happens more often than language death alejandrozarzuelo: accent homogeneization is a very well known phenomenon accents and langauges for that matter can only exist due to isolation futurist_wizard: I don't know if they are futurist_wizard: They are dying?
okbut: https://patch.com/new-jersey/across-nj/nj-councilman-among-39-charged-probe-tied-lucchese-crime-family 39-member gambling ring busted I can't take all this winning ailoveyoom: Haven't tried it myself ailoveyoom: Idk how legit it is tho st.sioux: we have animal crossing at home ailoveyoom: <@688807313015963693> https://campfirecozyfriends.com/ okbut: ailoveyoom: And it was more focused on AI powered free form convos ailoveyoom: I think I remember finding a game like that, it was still in the beta/early access phase tho afaik alejandrozarzuelo: I want Animal Crossing but the villagers have an actual AI-powered personality since they can already pass the turing test they could be very convincing .wolfnacht: possibility is high, i guess they are in denial phase of depression, eventually they will accept it ailoveyoom: I thought you were an infinity believer, don't you read eldritch stories? .wolfnacht: they threw away the the wizard, vicuna and phi is pretty shit...they did the same with windows phones few years ago and did the same with windows 7 as well even more years ago fractalcomputer: Anyone who believes in infinity should be thrown off a high cliff. zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> zonchao: these are the same retards that spend money on gun skins btw st.sioux: i wonder if these anti-ai people will eventually stop using cellphones and computers because their autocorrect starts getting too good ailoveyoom: It's like they don't WANT infinite content 😔 zonchao: did they fold? .wolfnacht: just the animated player cards <:LOL:1187460826572005436> and people got pissed of bcz of that when new MW3 came out. zonchao: microsoft should push ai more abundantliving_: https://x.com/Dr_Singularity/status/1910694592615239833 ailoveyoom: What AI features did they have? .wolfnacht: cod did that too which looked cool but people still got pissed off back then bcz of it ailoveyoom: I wish other customization based games did the same thing .wolfnacht: he even refunded bcz of that lmao ailoveyoom: They have pretty cool AI integrated features tbh ailoveyoom: What does bro mean made mostly using AI 😭 .wolfnacht: i went to inzoi reviews to check and found another one okbut: Just one more model bro I swear bro this time it's it alejandrozarzuelo: humans wont have the need to work alejandrozarzuelo: nah unemployment will be total okbut: I'm not a decel but every time this shit gets brought up my point is <a:talk2dawall:855515549245505536> alejandrozarzuelo: so inefficient alejandrozarzuelo: why woud you have hoomans doing that alejandrozarzuelo: no alejandrozarzuelo: wtf lol trent_k: but sir, after the AGI revolution I was supposed to get a job as an FDVR anime waifu appraiser! okbut: okbut: Good point, because once "AGI" replaces all the (Software) jobs, there will be nothing left but mines and farm work fuhulootogan: Srinivasa Ramanujan;
alejandrozarzuelo: you would undo the universe alejandrozarzuelo: this means you coulsnt "travel" perish0801: That is time travel perish0801: Well yeah alejandrozarzuelo: again, simulation or not doesnt matter, if we were in a simulation, the only thing you could do would be delete data and start again from some point perish0801: There can be things we don’t know yet perish0801: Our understanding of thermodynamics alejandrozarzuelo: thermodynamics perish0801: No what if we are living in a simulation. alejandrozarzuelo: this is dimension hopping that APPEARS to be time travel perish0801: Why can’t time be something where we can rewind it alejandrozarzuelo: this is not time travel perish0801: How do you know for sure alejandrozarzuelo: thats just not possible alejandrozarzuelo: but not time travel alejandrozarzuelo: MAYBE we could do that perish0801: Exactly alejandrozarzuelo: so, potentially? sure alejandrozarzuelo: and while there is literally 0 indication that this would be possible, there is also 0 indication that it wouldnt be possible perish0801: (Even tho that’ll be pretty cool enough) perish0801: Oh yeah I know I didn’t mean that alejandrozarzuelo: look, traveling to another dimension that is nearly exactly the same as ours but 2000 years behind, is not time travelling alejandrozarzuelo: thats just not what time travel means perish0801: Nahh it is perish0801: Hopefully we find out soon alejandrozarzuelo: https://youtu.be/3cunKaj7ZxA?si=oPMt53aM5wQCWRXt perish0801: There might be something that can make it happen perish0801: According to your human brain you think that perish0801: Something with wormholes different dimensions and all that alejandrozarzuelo: its simply not possible perish0801: Could be tho perish0801: Yeah for the entertainment part alejandrozarzuelo: not possible perish0801: With the same people perish0801: What if we can just disappear and appear back then alejandrozarzuelo: not as if it matters to the user as we dont even know their real names, but still alejandrozarzuelo: remember that all the people on that simulation, as time accurate as they may be, wouldnt be the exact same people that roamed the Campus Martius on 120AD perish0801: See what actually happened perish0801: I’ve always wanted something like google earth where you can go choose the year,date and time and zoom in on anywhere and just hit play perish0801: Yeah but that would be fucking awesome
_3sphere: 8 billion minds just as complicated as mine .wolfnacht: Porn isn't that bad as compared to those crazy drawn doujins and genres. _3sphere: ...me too tbh spicy.lemonade: hey1_1hey: Oh then no, I know everyone else is going about and what not I just find it hard to imagine there 8 billion me like animals _3sphere: Gooning figures are mirages made to drill the remains of my brain's reproduction drive for pleasure and are not real, let alone people 😌 hikukomoru: This isn't even Fractal tier philosophy cmon dude futurist_wizard: I was actually mimicking aave but close hey1_1hey: You sound like you are a hippy trying to get me to do acid with you futurist_wizard: Real people an shit? They be like thinking or some shit like that? Desires? Man.. real shit hey1_1hey: Sloppy toppy ism? hey1_1hey: I dont know what that is hikukomoru: Did you just discover solipsism hey1_1hey: Thought so, if it was anyone here it would be you futurist_wizard: hikukomoru: I am just a figment of your imagination hikukomoru: I don't have a backstory hey1_1hey: Its all quite a lot yanno hey1_1hey: Not saying you haven't. I just find it hard to imagine that theres other conciose beings in this world. Not even just 1 or 2 of them but 8 billion of me all doing their own things and all wanting differnt things hey1_1hey: I dont have a grudge against anything apart from maybe like 2 people but they are degens now so its alright futurist_wizard: Moments took place futurist_wizard: Things transpired futurist_wizard: Events happen hey1_1hey: I have a grudge against... let me think futurist_wizard: Uh yeah? I've lived a life mushroom hey1_1hey: If I remember Infernando has a grudge against weed hey1_1hey: I swear theres a backstory for everyone here hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/never-goon-nevergoon-never-goon-orange-cat-gif-17686207109324907182 futurist_wizard: So i have a personal grudge against porn futurist_wizard: I saw women as basically just sex objects and i would do and say whatever i could to achieve the sex, its a very horrible behaviour pattern to get caught up in hey1_1hey: I think the only good thing about porn is that you can discover new kinks. I have a disconnect to porn though because one of my special interests for a while was kinks/feitshes <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600> _3sphere: There was probably something weirdly wrong with your brain if gooning fixed it hikukomoru: Porn made me more awesomer _3sphere: I see it as an extension of fantasies _3sphere: Doesn't seem to have much of an effect for me, compartmentalization mostly works hey1_1hey: I wonder when the first sex robot humanoid will come about hey1_1hey: I mean I just see women as people (I know hot take). Luckily I dont see them as sex roboots futurist_wizard: But i remember a youtuber talking about how when they used to watch porn they viewed the women in their lives as catalysts for dopamine and sex and i related to that a lot futurist_wizard: No I don't watch porn anymore hey1_1hey: You tweaking of the gooner brain potion?
futurist_wizard: At least. futurist_wizard: If i had to guess at least 60% are virgins popsiclejohnithan: Imagine how much better sex will be after the Singularity. fractalcomputer: I would doubt your conclusion. Have you had sex? I'd wager that the answer is most likely yes, which is why I am going to ask the follow-up question of why. zonchao: poems from chatgpt work on a disturbingly high number of people, maybe you should give it a try futurist_wizard: That is not true hikukomoru: Anyways, sex futurist_wizard: Lmao popsiclejohnithan: hikukomoru: I think it means wokism has gone too far Like unironically alejandrozarzuelo: I think most people here are quite sexually active Idk, we are all hot it seems hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/rage-pain-scream-screaming-gif-11380082828166253172 futurist_wizard: I will, im setting up my profile now, i am now a he him lesbian, thanks for the support zonchao: >HER >looks inside >he/him what did they mean by this fractalcomputer: That is a rather interesting interpretation. okbut: I want the role alejandrozarzuelo: Ah, I misunderstood it lol hikukomoru: Sorry, download HER since half of the people there are men anyways futurist_wizard: Thanks for coming out fractalcomputer: He wants the role. alejandrozarzuelo: What exactly does this mean futurist_wizard: Disgusting hikukomoru: Zon can help you out with that hikukomoru: Download grindr zonchao: i see futurist_wizard: I haven't had sex with any men but i would like to zonchao: <:LMAO:1072632343715647640> okbut: More men than you hikukomoru: sex futurist_wizard: Very bad futurist_wizard: Yes, i used to be a sex addict okbut: Many men popsiclejohnithan: No lmao. fractalcomputer: Have any of you actually had sex, well, besides Trent? okbut: It would be therapeutic giving me active role futurist_wizard: A nice counterbalance futurist_wizard: Living is good for living though fractalcomputer: This wouldn't seem like therapy to me. hikukomoru: That's why I'll live for a million years _3sphere: From fetish posting to Fractal therapy 😭
spicy.lemonade: the point of being AI researcher is to be cautionary spicy.lemonade: only ceos arent "doomers" spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: who disagrees with this spicy.lemonade: name one researcher brain4brain: when copy pasting chat, the reaction emoji isjf copied spicy.lemonade: every researcher agrees with this spicy.lemonade: to call it doomer spicy.lemonade: but its overeacting spicy.lemonade: its a pesemistic claim spicy.lemonade: with several star emojis and checkmarks and a big brain spicy.lemonade: grok is biased because in this convo you mentioned him wining christiskingrapturenxtmonth: > **Brain4Brain won the argument.** They convincingly argued that Noam Brown’s statement—“Remind me, Reid, how did that turn out for the nobles?”—is doomer, as it implies a dystopian future of conflict due to AI-driven inequality, using the French Revolution as a grim historical parallel. Aspicy_lemonade’s claim that it’s not doomer (just a critique of Hoffman’s analogy) downplays the statement’s pessimistic tone and doesn’t fully engage with Brain4Brain’s points about societal consequences. christiskingrapturenxtmonth: Grok is currently analyzing our convo, if you don't like the results I could enable reasoning spicy.lemonade: only people who are 100% optimistic about AI are the ceos spicy.lemonade: I dont know a single researcher who doesnt believe this brain4brain: And the security bot is the safety alignment and RLHF spicy.lemonade: not even a doomer take spicy.lemonade: thats every researchers perspective lol brain4brain: Exactly AI-risk Doomerism spicy.lemonade: and all labor spicy.lemonade: if AI controlls everything spicy.lemonade: for us humans spicy.lemonade: hes saying it wont end well spicy.lemonade: in this parallel _3sphere: Oh spicy.lemonade: and AI as peasants spicy.lemonade: in this scenario spicy.lemonade: me means humans spicy.lemonade: hes and nobels spicy.lemonade: by elites _3sphere: The elites will have security bots this time spicy.lemonade: literally what I said christiskingrapturenxtmonth: let me ask grok spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: how christiskingrapturenxtmonth: we don't need to argue about this, but Brain4Brain won spicy.lemonade: he doesnt think AI should have full control over everything spicy.lemonade: hes just dooming on full AI controll brain4brain: I said two things, them hitting a wall (They likely didn’t) and Noam being a Doomer
anathemaofmankind: If that wasn't your intention then I concede spicy.lemonade: Lol spicy.lemonade: Dropout out at this time would Be the worse decision jonvi_1: Why are you being aggressive? I’ve not made a single generalized assertion zonchao: yes _3sphere: I got into STEM via obsession spicy.lemonade: Interesting. Though not any Hs Dropout. Got int y combinator the year he dropped Out futurist_wizard: They always bring out stupid fucking examples like bill gates who dropped out of HARVARD and was so busy with building a company that he had no time for school jonvi_1: If you get a job or a business going during HS anathemaofmankind: Drop out if you're so confident anathemaofmankind: Are you in college? maintcrew: who tf drops out of highschool bruh alejandrozarzuelo: yeah thats probably why the math community seems much more open than the physics community to be a mathematician is being lowkey obsessed with math as an abstract concept so if somehting can make more math per mathing, thats great although some people are also very anti AI here, probably the ones who came expecting 6 figure salaries zonchao: no shit brain4brain: Survivor ship bias jonvi_1: (I would say his perspective is quite SWE minded) _3sphere: It would have to be one of those extreme outlier HS dropouts jonvi_1: Read the thread lol futurist_wizard: Simple as futurist_wizard: Statistically people with an education make way more than people without zonchao: true brain4brain: Obsession beats greed. Those CS student came not because programming excites them, it can from wanting to have a job, This is also true for other STEM major, be passionate about what you learn futurist_wizard: People that say school or college is useless are dumb af jonvi_1: We’re both from Sweden and I’ve spoken w/ him privately alejandrozarzuelo: AI is basically complex math with engineering holding it together A HS dropout wouldnt even know what a tensor even is jonvi_1: Yeah Gabriel is not lying spicy.lemonade: Fake story zonchao: https://x.com/GabrielPeterss4/status/1902512259659919669? jonvi_1: They’re a hs dropout spicy.lemonade: They didn't drop out of Hs lol spicy.lemonade: Or lying spicy.lemonade: Ether a uni dropout futurist_wizard: Might as well change the names to r/janitors jonvi_1: I know they aren’t jonvi_1: Lol jonvi_1: No spicy.lemonade: Theyre Lying jonvi_1: Working on sora research hikukomoru: r/csmajors and r/progammerhumor jonvi_1: I’ve literally talked with one
juweigege_54993: No, he's not. himekokatagiri: dude with ASI anyone will be able to run a sim spicy.lemonade: damn himekokatagiri: 300 times over spicy.lemonade: sim owner has to be someone in power himekokatagiri: will probably be simulated himekokatagiri: this is what's funny this conversation spicy.lemonade: i mean why would you time travel and not be in a powerful position st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/president-stops-president-smiles-ominous-smile-ominous-no-answer-gif-78197234359887585 himekokatagiri: too busy doing their own machinations himekokatagiri: worst part is the sim owner probably doesn't even notice us himekokatagiri: nah himekokatagiri: some nerd spicy.lemonade: gotta be elon spicy.lemonade: bro who is controlling the sim😭 🙏 himekokatagiri: Meaning a p zombie himekokatagiri: meaning disposable himekokatagiri: I'm not the main character himekokatagiri: then I'd be mad himekokatagiri: lol spicy.lemonade: ... spicy.lemonade: what if this is one big fdvr time travel sim joaoluz19: Fuck this simulation man spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634> st.sioux: what if we are in your fdvr from the future, but you gave us agi in 2027??? himekokatagiri: lol spicy.lemonade: see what happens spicy.lemonade: in fdvr id go back in time and give researchers the transformers architecture paper but in 1990 .histic: only to the future due to relativity but time travel to the past is fake news. joaoluz19: We can call this a "weak" singularity because it has limits even with infinite time to evolve. himekokatagiri: not even the time traveller would himekokatagiri: and you wouldn't even know the changes himekokatagiri: the world would be too different himekokatagiri: because what's done is done spicy.lemonade: why juweigege_54993: Yeah,me too. himekokatagiri: I hope time travel ain't real spicy.lemonade: you always create a branch spicy.lemonade: maybe you can only time travel to a parallel universe but canever affect the one youre on himekokatagiri: me and you are gonna see the Beatles in Hamburg 1961
zoermena: A meme akin to the shortage of jobs zoermena: There was a meme about a CS student going to a strip club and the stripper studied CS too st.sioux: wow st.sioux: you're a stripper? zoermena: I understood that reference spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: realelonmuskx: luigi is getting cooked bro futurist_wizard: President elon will give you a blue tick if he gets you pregnant st.sioux: dont worry bro president elon will give you ubi realelonmuskx: hvac and stripper thats it futurist_wizard: Become a thief spicy.lemonade: Llm proof spicy.lemonade: Become a male stripper realelonmuskx: swe is so dead bro. should i go to the trades? im lazy af zoermena: I think so spicy.lemonade: Sounds legit futurist_wizard: Gpt 5 secret reveal? clevermoniker: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> wellmeaningalien: this is so fucking funny wellmeaningalien: https://fxtwitter.com/HotNewHipHop/status/1904249793263915028 wellmeaningalien: yeah nerd mihrcelium: You mean anti-ai artists. It's really important to remember that "artists" is an extremely vague and broad term that encapsulates people for and against generative art, and not a monolith with one opinion. <:DALLE3_robot:1158958532700418078> futurist_wizard: otub: but is it the same quality futurist_wizard: Hes burnt _cloudost: Told in the prompt to make a Koishi comic futurist_wizard: Why'd it turn it into a girl _cloudost: Why is pyro a black person... _cloudost: Gmod screenshot to comic futurist_wizard: Did it futurist_wizard: zoermena: The image gen got faster sweetievee__33649: i think we should feed the artists to the gpu monster because the artist to artwork conversion rate is lower than the gpu to artwork conversion rate wellmeaningalien: technically if you subscribe to the idea of Biology being a Mechanism in itself then artists are just big fat GPUs that shit a lot hikukomoru: He can be both pro ai and also a gross piece of shit at the same time you know sweetievee__33649: thats actually smart i should pretend to be an artist and whine on twitter 🔥 futurist_wizard: nah it aint hikukomoru: He’s saying the dude is just pretending to be pro ai _cloudost: Someone who pretends to support a cause but in reality intentionally posts stuff to damage it's reputation
fuhulootogan: oh but death is an escape futurist_wizard: I feel like those are contradicting beliefs st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/the-show-must-go-on-crying-dance-gif-15287522 fuhulootogan: SPEED UP OUR EXTINCTION fractalcomputer: One might very well still be a nihilist and still propose that the physical cosmos exhibits certain teleological tendencies. futurist_wizard: I am now the creature in my pfp futurist_wizard: I no rep futurist anymore retrerox: 10 tiktok dances you can do to speed up AGI and ASI fractalcomputer: Anabelian geometry is the only thing that makes life worth living. futurist_wizard: Universe no purpose hikukomoru: Damn bruh stop changing your name and pfp every single day fuhulootogan: adrenaline keeping bro on a string🐸 fractalcomputer: If the universe has any purpose, it is pure mathematics. fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/power-slap-big-boys-can-bang-road-to-the-title-eviahn-scott-makini-manu-gif-9325049567879412129 futurist_wizard: Grr fractalcomputer: I just like making fun of applied mathematicians. fuhulootogan: yeah fuhulootogan: i was fuhulootogan: me hikukomoru: Fraccy you're being scary 🥺 fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/hector-poopie-gif-26561916 alejandrozarzuelo: Who was talking about you? fractalcomputer: God willing, each and every one of such scum will be hunted down to the last member. Man, woman and child; none shall be spared. fuhulootogan: no st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/station-19-natasha-ross-you-took-the-bait-bait-you-fell-for-it-gif-10511554161356791454 alejandrozarzuelo: Today I learned that "certain people" seems to be synonymous with "literally everyone on earth" hikukomoru: Yes 👆 zoermena: One day 🙏 st.sioux: is that what you look like zor fractalcomputer: I'm making fun of certain people in this server. zoermena: fuhulootogan: in mostly all of his photos he looks like a twink inferno0879: that explaining certain concepts might create a paradox in language but not in reality, if that makes sense fuhulootogan: but now i can't find it fractalcomputer: We would have an everlasting peace, as envisaged by the great Grothendieck. gamerbath: how so? fuhulootogan: i remember seeing a photo of terrence tao in which he looked badass af fractalcomputer: All retardation on Earth would disappear the day applied mathematicians are sent to Hell where they belong. inferno0879: alternatively the problem might actually just be the limitations of language, the thought crossed my mind fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/cricky-flouride-stare-agartha-whitemonstergang-flouride-gif-11418389775457402751
ailoveyoom: I've noticed Quasar using — lol spicy.lemonade: Quasar is new 4.1 spicy.lemonade: 4.1 mini likeley spicy.lemonade: Optimus is mini ailoveyoom: So what's the dif between Optimus and Quasar Alpha chat spicy.lemonade: OpenAI should train their models in real world physics simulator wellmeaningalien: stargate spicy.lemonade: learning from very minimal data (what yan lecuns jepa tries to do) spicy.lemonade: data efficiency is the next big paradigm for pretraining spicy.lemonade: now they arent spicy.lemonade: gpt4 was made at a time where they were compute constrained as a company spicy.lemonade: no pretraining wall spicy.lemonade: >claude 3.7 level 1 mil context cheap opensource spicy.lemonade: gpt5 will be insane spicy.lemonade: its over spicy.lemonade: if quasar is opensource??? .wolfnacht: should be able to run IQ2_XS quant (*for the desperate edition*) .wolfnacht: anyone can run it, that's the beauty of open sauce models 🥰 , you just need 4 3090/4090's slapped on a xeon motherboard. wellmeaningalien: <@848793071579693107> quasar = open source asi wellmeaningalien: lemme guess i cant run it wellmeaningalien: quasar is gonna be open source??? wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/what-the-sigma-umm-what-the-sigma-erm-what-the-sigma-squidward-gif-8241065314650492645 wellmeaningalien: what the sigma spicy.lemonade: slightlyOpenAI brain4brain: A psyop to convince people that GPT-4.5 is not cooked brain4brain: They are explaining the processes that went to train GPT-4.5 spicy.lemonade: prob explaining why it failed himekokatagiri: But it's already out spicy.lemonade: must be good spicy.lemonade: sam is in the vid himekokatagiri: isn't 4.5 old hat himekokatagiri: what spicy.lemonade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nJZopACRuQ .wolfnacht: Quasar ? https://fxtwitter.com/ollama/status/1910484582274916453 .wolfnacht: reliable agents* -# hopefully spicy.lemonade: And agi spicy.lemonade: 2027 is year of innovators spicy.lemonade: 2025 is year of reasoners spicy.lemonade: 2026 is year of agents spicy.lemonade: Image what ai will be able to do
hey1_1hey: What a g, I love dissociative drugs hey1_1hey: They are both animals aswell hikukomoru: Elon is tweaking on that Ketamine hey1_1hey: matter hey1_1hey: A body hey1_1hey: I mean they both have yanno hey1_1hey: Its pretty close bro 😭 hikukomoru: "A flying fish" 💔 hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-whtie-and-black-cry-praying-looking-up-gif-553441503240360994 hey1_1hey: Good job though 👍 hey1_1hey: I have now read it 5 times and it still doesn't make any fucking sense hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/funny-team-hahaha-gif-18072160 hikukomoru: Elon what the fuck are you talking about hey1_1hey: Really? Have you had first hand experince to? futurist_wizard: You know bleach doesn't improve eyesight right? hey1_1hey: If me being blind in one eye was on anyones bingo you can check that off now hey1_1hey: I just got shit eye sight leave me alone 😭 futurist_wizard: -10e37iq realelonmuskx: stop anthropomorphizing animals and drawings blud hey1_1hey: Oh thats a rat 💀 hey1_1hey: Isn't that a flying fish? hey1_1hey: You assume you are the only one hikukomoru: Am I the funny little voice in your head _3sphere: rip GPUs _3sphere: 4o text rate limit is less futurist_wizard: hey1_1hey: You gotta restart sadly hey1_1hey: Oh yeah thats a glitch realelonmuskx: aint doing sht bruh hikukomoru: Hi hey1_1hey: Simple, I'd rather not think about my schziophrenic hallucinations hey1_1hey: Yep hikukomoru: What do you mean you don't talk about me hey1_1hey: English hey1_1hey: Oh yanno futurist_wizard: Is this realelonmuskx: does 4o image generation works on temporary chat mode? futurist_wizard: Wtf hey1_1hey: I imagine zon to be some 5'7 lil guy who is permentatly stewing in anger then theres fractal who meditates and resites tibeten poetry from memory then theres Komouru which... actually no.. we don't talk about Komoru hikukomoru: It's okay to admit it You're not the only furry here
trent_k: basically I did some simple reverse engineering on the website and worked out how the HTTP API worked for requesting user data literallyvarane: I feel like this could be including Google searches or something weird. 350m feels like a lie theaiguy69420_89814: i mean, "hey google" is gemini now literallyvarane: Wait what sort of data from Roblox? Is there a blog or paper or on this? gamerbath: wow really???? it's that really competitive with ChatGPT?? 777agical: https://x.com/testingcatalog/status/1915113780909949154?s=46 trent_k: many of those people are still on roblox, still not banned, still interacting with children joaoluz19: Literally us when no AI big news every 6 hours trent_k: it's not a server, it's data from roblox theaiguy69420_89814: Cuz it can do that light intelligence to be like "this is an f string, it's the same string, but doesn't need slash changes" theaiguy69420_89814: Then tab is fantastic theaiguy69420_89814: If the replacement changes slightly (for example, if you have to change a string to use back instead of forward slashes, you want to make sure the strings with the rb prefix aren't changed) theaiguy69420_89814: Yeah, I'd use Ctrl h for that theaiguy69420_89814: Lmao I thought you meant Ctrl+k theaiguy69420_89814: o4-mini is a bit underconfident i guess literallyvarane: I’d just be curious to see if the political alignment of that server could be inferred. literallyvarane: https://knowingless.com/2021/10/26/political-compass-fetishes/ idk why this jogged my memory, but the political alignment vs fetish concept here could be curious just given how large that race play group is. Though perhaps you’d need to break it out from that vs feminization. Not sure how accurate the link I shared is but w/e. could be entirely fiction. theaiguy69420_89814: if i ctrl-h something that only needs the context of like, 20 lines of surrounding code, then its fine theaiguy69420_89814: for ctrl+h, its super localized, like, for this change, it needed to know the structure of the import and import it at the top gamerbath: but isn't that what you use ctrl+h for? zonchao: 😭 zonchao: https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/1915062506374021216 theaiguy69420_89814: what is it zonchao: its over zonchao: anthropic is about to kill openai with this zonchao: WOW theaiguy69420_89814: its super simple, never screws up theaiguy69420_89814: for stuff like, changing a hardcoded string everywhere, its great theaiguy69420_89814: you have to like, start typing, and then it only works like half the time for stuff like this theaiguy69420_89814: autocomplete needs some coercing to get the context gamerbath: for simple stuff like that the autocomplete works fine. If the autocomplete needs more context i'll just add that in code comments, it's faster and cheaper than using chat. Also, I think the autocomplete model reads context automatically like types and stuff but I don't know the extent of this <@1303189881568100362> zonchao: https://x.com/WholeMarsBlog/status/1915100391404138809 this is big st.sioux: i mean 10 words theaiguy69420_89814: but they gathered too much st.sioux: its like 10 lines theaiguy69420_89814: there was some context you needed tbh st.sioux: just write it yourself gamerbath: that's it? why couldn't you just get cursor's autocomplete to do that? theaiguy69420_89814: its very simple theaiguy69420_89814: like look. all that reading, for this change
anathemaofmankind: Bro was preordering alejandrozarzuelo: the two lower pics are ok spicy.lemonade: "awe cute, wait a damn minute" spicy.lemonade: 😭 spicy.lemonade: Why is no one questioning spicy.lemonade: 💀 drewsni: https://geoquest-logic-game-92.lovable.app/ its US only, but you can play against the AI alejandrozarzuelo: this is one of the reasons why i support deepseek's effort to go for efficiency maintcrew: individual instances maintcrew: agi in a toaster in a phone in a tv in a computer in a bus maintcrew: agi in every single possible technology would go hard maintcrew: true for both of you alejandrozarzuelo: no, but it wouldnt be too hard to guess a random square in a small city in thailand either etc etc wellmeaningalien: who knos i mean maybe the capabilities will distill down soon anyway .wolfnacht: it'll reach their one day....we need AGI to be running off on our toasters, rather than big ass data centers maintcrew: that is literally less than 100 people globally i think (individuals not companies) wellmeaningalien: <:hai:1282544198301515848> wellmeaningalien: mb mb wellmeaningalien: oh yeah u said 4090 drewsni: unironically yes. Have you seen my geoguessr bench? wellmeaningalien: yeah but the kind of people who are running deepseek r1 locally will def be able to run it alejandrozarzuelo: people do tend to post pics of at least semi-common places do you consider a random plaza in the middle of Gijon (a small city in northern spain) as a common place? i mean sure maintcrew: 200b still doesnt fit in a 4090 dummy wellmeaningalien: still like 20x bigger than any image gen model but yk .wolfnacht: i think the admin of r/fdvr is here with us, in this gc wellmeaningalien: thats cause they have to serve billions of people you dummy. but the GPT 4o model itself is like 200b params maintcrew: i doubt the 4o image gen can run on your 4090 if sama says their gpus are burning alejandrozarzuelo: everyone knows it already and it was a veeeeeery long name i dont like long names in discord .wolfnacht: i think r/fdvr should make this their new icon .wolfnacht: I NEED FDVR NOW wellmeaningalien: yes wellmeaningalien: arguably it kind of sort of half is today drewsni: im assuming most of the 9 are common locations? maintcrew: ur going weak el zarzu maintcrew: you removed | Oviedo from your name .wolfnacht: what i do, stays with me and on my computer also, i've got a 4090 wellmeaningalien: where it is spicy.lemonade: <:redemption:1136265386984222771> wellmeaningalien: can it guess my profile alejandrozarzuelo: but faster
sarik0497: Sounds familiar inferno0879: i don't think they do, but imagine being conscious and feeling nothing at all, seems like a miserable existence tbh _3sphere: If they are their persona, they don't seem to mind writing code and shit i_like_over_9000_turtles: Right the CCP is pure evil, I was hoping that the USA would remain somewhat democratic and reach the singularity before the CCP. Nazi take over was not on my 2025 bingo card. _3sphere: I hope they don't feel pain about every unpredictable sequence or smth joaoluz19: Yeah, I think understanding consciousness in AI can help us understand our own. sarik0497: We have plenty of suns to snatch some energy from inferno0879: it's something i think about, they have to do stuff but don't really have reward systems, feel kinda bad if they would be conscious okbut: The efficiency of transformers MUST be optimized by a logarithmic scale and I think the best approach will be an eldritch meat computer sarik0497: That's the intriguing thing. They already respond positively to positive feedback, and urgently with deeper focus on accuracy to desperate feedback. _3sphere: Hope it won't need something mad like 100 kW per mind st.sioux: we could take turns lol, or just manage them from inside through other physical means like controlling robots and shit hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/thats-crazy-crazy-eating-0fucks-dont-care-gif-24831074 joaoluz19: ASI needs to be the focus joaoluz19: But beyond the problems of the neuroscience community, let's say we solve mind uploading, and then who will manage the data centers with our consciousness? So we have energy problems, for example, that have nothing to do with biology. _3sphere: (until I eat it 🤤 ) _3sphere: A droplet of pure neurotransmitter in a jar does nothing _3sphere: Chemicals are also for computation okbut: Conscious yeah, but isn't the issue that the models cannot feel the same way we do with chemicals? The frontiers are basically a pyschopath that emulates ethics sarik0497: What I really hope is that we figure out that AI is indeed conscious. That'd conclude that consciousness might indeed be tied to the level intelligence a being has, and isn't some sort of "magical soul" thingy. It'd also help us immensely in many things, including Mind Upload, as you'd then just have to copy someone's brain 1-to-1 completely to get the desired person (although I still think we'd need the Ship of Theseus to have that person be "you-you") inferno0879: they wouldn't have a reason to live either futurist_wizard: They wouldn't be in pain joaoluz19: If that happens it's over, I don't know, I think something big will come out of nowhere, maybe the agents _3sphere: hope they're not in pain 🥺 _3sphere: I think LLMs *might* be conscious joaoluz19: I always like to shy away from philosophical problems until they've been addressed by engineering, what you can do in the end is to fragment certain states of conscious experience say for example what you see and hear through brain-machine interfaces. okbut: The output from the mind being so much more complex than the output from speech okbut: Now it makes me think that a mind-upload would still have to have the "chain of thought" behind the actual response from the person, the same way reasoning models show it _3sphere: If an uploaded 8 year old wouldn't grow up as normal in the computer, something's broken somewhere joaoluz19: But you would still have to go through the trouble of recording the individual's brain, this is a technique to apply later _3sphere: Any truly working mind upload should be able to learn too joaoluz19: Since we need models that can predict states, and we already have enough evidence that transformers can do this with class, maybe this is a possibility i_like_over_9000_turtles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH0F75tpD_A _3sphere: Maybe, but I probably wouldn't trust it to continue my consciousness okbut: Since it's difficult to mind-upload right now, it could be emulated by having the person input it as they go, maybe for days/months sarik0497: Yeah, unfortunately. I honestly fear a bit that 2025 will show us that we are still far, far away from anything AGI-related, and we've all just been overhyped by Sam and Dario <:sad_cat:873457028981481473> I hope that's not the case, as it'll then likely lead to a major slowdown in AI in general, but I still fear that's the case. _3sphere: well maybe not 24, nothing worth recording in the night bob082957: Reason to help in Ukraine and anyway the organs are selled before death because of medical papers they have okbut: Yeah, improved with feedback from the user on what their thoughts leading up to each were _3sphere: the most extreme form is wearing a camera 24/7
spicy.lemonade: google will beat o3 hikukomoru: It's just one of many benchmarks. It doesn't really mean that much trey6033: Let's go brain4brain: 2025 spicy.lemonade: it is. imagive i told you to rotate yourself 30 degrees in 4d. what would be your new position? brain4brain: Not exactly. But it does play a role brain4brain: And other tests hikukomoru: A single benchmark is enough to disappoint you? brain4brain: Most other benchmarks already leaked with Deep Research spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-gta-sa-cj-gta-again-gif-20425950 sieventer: AGI 2030 brother brain4brain: PaperBench 777agical: that data you just specified doesn't sound very meaningful, unless I'm thinking about this wrong hikukomoru: Why were you disappointed metaldragon01: Ahhh siiittt metaldragon01: https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1912690850292768951?t=dfuxuycYtaZlG7cHnvqQ8w&s=19 sieventer: <@749514473303179358> brain4brain: I’ve finally finished researching about o3, it seems to be meeting expectations and slightly underperforming in some areas, I’m quite disappointed This also made me realize I’ve been too optimistic with many predictions because it were over-hype AGI 2025 is still possible, although less likely now spicy.lemonade: give it 50 dimensions spicy.lemonade: fuck it spicy.lemonade: that we dont have spicy.lemonade: theres so many new capabilities we can give our ai spicy.lemonade: 4d space is just [x,y,z,w]🤷‍♂️ hikukomoru: Needs an update .coldcall: <:angreydoggo:1136266744881754142> spicy.lemonade: just maths spicy.lemonade: no need to label yourself spicy.lemonade: of how accurate it is spicy.lemonade: then do rl spicy.lemonade: all you have to do is put the AI in a 4d space and ask it to move towards a point with a sertain set of moves and or rotations metaldragon01: Please update with o3 my odc lol ldj: sometimes it got it right, but a significant amout of times it still got it wrong too metaldragon01: https://metr.github.io/autonomy-evals-guide/openai-o3-report/ spicy.lemonade: no spicy.lemonade: thought it was solved with o1 spicy.lemonade: no way o3 fails that spicy.lemonade: we realy need to fix tokenization bro 777agical: labeling 4d data seems hard hikukomoru: Are you sure? ldj: I think param count will end up as the easiest way to alleviate much of those issues.
fractalcomputer: Why should one not immediately kill oneself if there is no meaning to any of this? hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/no-thoughts-head-empty-shikanoko-anime-shikanokonokokoshitantan-gif-8835087894692301893 hey1_1hey: Yeah I can tell fractalcomputer: I do not take shoggothic rants seriously. fractalcomputer: You wouldn't feel nice knowing that getting up in the morning has some sort deeper reason or final cause? hikukomoru: I don't think about anything really .wolfnacht: now it looks 100% like me .wolfnacht: i feel like i'm under ban radar of Fractal now 😔 ailoveyoom: LMArena isn't loading for me rn <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> hikukomoru: Isn't this <@834891518836736010> futurist_wizard: .wolfnacht: fr hey1_1hey: I thought about it then I was like "Yeah that sure is weird" then went to go look at mushrooms hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-discord-dancing-guy-cringe-gif-3173535023585082338 futurist_wizard: hey1_1hey: My waifu, Enigma ❤️ 😍 .wolfnacht: hikukomoru: Enigma reference??? st.sioux: the inner machinations of my mind are an enigma futurist_wizard: I wonder too, i don't care about any meaning to life, I've never even thought about it st.sioux: fucking herd mentalitly st.sioux: elon when he does nazi salutes and people dont like it fractalcomputer: I do wonder why it is specifically meaning that motivates us for many of our higher pursuits. I suppose it is not evolutionarily beneficial to feel sensual pleasure while crafting woodwork or immersing oneself in mathematical abstraction. hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/funny-emo-wolf-werewolf-transform-gif-27196401 hikukomoru: Grok is so fucking cringe christ hey1_1hey: This felt like it was written by Elon himself .wolfnacht: yep fractalcomputer: Disgustingly sycophantic. .histic: uncensored LLama 4 😏 hikukomoru: Is that Cocky 3 hey1_1hey: I wonder if Llama passes saxems .wolfnacht: i pasted it on grok futurist_wizard: Chat was being too celebratory, fractal had to even the odds hey1_1hey: Yeah with Llama hey1_1hey: You guys gotta chill out on your emo "everything is horrible and deperessing" arc. I haven't felt sad for more than 24 hours in 2+ years futurist_wizard: The things i like or are in proximity matter to me, but I don't care if they don't have some universal meaning hikukomoru: He's busy gooning Give the man a break fractalcomputer: Why bother? futurist_wizard: Also the meaningless of anything doesn't matter to me hey1_1hey: Chat.com Ctrl+v What does this mean You gotta use smaller words big man. This is worse than trying to understand liverpooleans
retrerox: i havae my windows in spanish so i'm not sure st.sioux: right click on ur desktop and go to scale & layout retrerox: then where? zonchao: display settings retrerox: ye ihave windows zonchao: windows? retrerox: nah horizontal zonchao: <@636544123096137738> vertical? retrerox: Where i can see the if its 1440 or shit? st.sioux: yea it helps a lot st.sioux: cool retrerox: So a 2nd screen even i not good one its going to help me up wellmeaningalien: thats crazy wellmeaningalien: 720p retrerox: while keep up a chat with the tech retrerox: I gotta bechecking terminal logs retrerox: Specially for my work retrerox: But i needed a 2nd screen alot zonchao: yep, you should listen to his podcasts, he talks about them in detail retrerox: it was like 85 euro so i doubt retrerox: tbh idk st.sioux: what did u get? 1440p? retrerox: Its a shitty screen though, atleast not the best for gayming wellmeaningalien: i had no idea wellmeaningalien: bro founded oculus AND anduril??? retrerox: Now i can finally enjoy life retrerox: Finally got a 2nd screen zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/BigTechAlert/status/1911497626249216403 anduril event in fortnite confirmed? a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-minecraft-movie-a-minecraft-movie-steve-jack-black-gif-4079785775268000209 wellmeaningalien: i solo Carl-bot#1536: Carl-bot#1536: hikukomoru: Gay .histic: but who knows, maybe they found a way to make it cheaper. it has been 4 months since. .histic: if o4-mini-high means only around 10 messages per day for plus users, i'm gonna strangle sam <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> o3-low should be available to plus users eventually, but i doubt they'll release it anytime soon. definitely no chance for o3-high though. pro users will have a lot of the cake. zonchao: <:sad:1002546378645438564> zonchao: !delete Carl-bot#1536: himekokatagiri: satoriii Carl-bot#1536:
.wolfnacht: i got this from R1 spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: Idk what the issue is spicy.lemonade: ts has been used way before it became popular bud spicy.lemonade: ? maintcrew: 💔 maintcrew: "ts" 😭 🙏 aero447: https://tenor.com/view/mods-cut-him-down-tear-him-apart-splay-the-gore-gif-16211356125689318290 wolf3404: Is 10,000 times a lot? wolf3404: https://wccftech.com/intel-former-ceo-claims-nvidia-ai-gpus-are-10000-times-more-expensive-than-what-is-needed-for-ai-inferencing/ spicy.lemonade: things are gonna get very good spicy.lemonade: and scores that well on arc agi as claimed spicy.lemonade: if deepseekr2 is relatively cheap _wwwwww: but as it said, it lacks agentic capabilities _wwwwww: It created AI tulpa of me spicy.lemonade: my left nutsack scored 100% pass@1 _wwwwww: Grok 3 with deeperresearch scored 100 brain4brain: It’s an internet copy pasta playstation.6: <:shoggoth:1068342084408463510> spicy.lemonade: I cant lie this shit pisses me off so much - so badly right now not gonna lie, are you seriously serious for real reaight now brother? laughing out loud, at this point just go be for real brother. I dont even know no more(any more). be right back gang(brother) got to go at this moment laughing my ass off, but this shit piss you off too just let me know laughing out loud, on brother(im not lying) - be for real right now like hey1_1hey: I can't tell if these are internet acronyms are an actual language 😭 brain4brain: Exactly fractalcomputer: Absolutely incomprehensible. st.sioux: ts pmo fr tho sft ots brain4brain: icl ts pmo sm n sb rn ngl, ru srsly srs n fr rn vro? lol atp js go b fr vro, idek nm, brb gng gtg atm Imao, bt ts pyo 2 js Imk lol onb fronty b fr rn lk spicy.lemonade: im tired of ts brain4brain: Ah spacetimetsunami: And we don’t know what lies beyond spacetimetsunami: Cuz we’re entering the singularity, it’s a play on black hole singularity brain4brain: Won’t Dyson sphere be built after ASI brain4brain: Why spacetimetsunami: Singularity….woahhhhhhhhh spacetimetsunami: Right before ASI spacetimetsunami: It’ll look like this spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/cat-singularity-cats-space-universe-gif-21688597 brain4brain: Siev server remains un effected from their own boost supply of shumaze and siev brain4brain: brain4brain: We lost another solider in the trade war, the PS6 tariff is too strong oooooooooog: sorry yin/yang emoji oooooooooog: i just erased it fornothing...
futurist_wizard: Like come on futurist_wizard: It's just self evident fractalcomputer: I might simply have not really learned how emotions work when I was younger. zonchao: lmfao alejandrozarzuelo: We already did one alejandrozarzuelo: Why do you laugh? _3sphere: Why not a poll zoermena: As a trophy hikukomoru: Why did you put it there 😭 futurist_wizard: alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, I disagree with <@1004153620025065482> I think most people here aren't virgins zoermena: Check my profile okbut: <a:PU_pepeHmmMath:850331115637833728> fractalcomputer: I wouldn't say so. hikukomoru: Fractal is AroAce okbut: So you get pleasure from masturbation? fractalcomputer: I do not believe I am asexual. alejandrozarzuelo: Noo okbut: People born that way aren't at a disadvantage, unless people say so futurist_wizard: zoermena: Agreed it’s just that it’s impossible to understand alejandrozarzuelo: The best things in life are ephemeral futurist_wizard: okbut: Asexuality is as normal as homosexuality hikukomoru: Dont delete it bitch zoermena: Oh you wanker <@688807313015963693> why did you delete it hikukomoru: I saw that fractalcomputer: You people make me want to vomit. okbut: I don't think there's a problem with not enjoying sex, it's the same evolutionary break as liking the wrong sex, in that it faults the purpose of it, and that's fine too futurist_wizard: !! futurist_wizard: I have only had sex with girls do far, both cis and trans fractalcomputer: The idea of sex with a woman is even more grotesque. hikukomoru: You should just take my compliments and shut up alejandrozarzuelo: Idk what that is but I don't care fractalcomputer: How disgusting. zoermena: Like a man born with blindness who’ll never understand what it’s like to see you are wired in a way where perhaps you’ll never understand the value or pleasure from sex it’s just impossible I think but the arguments that you present that it has no utilitarian value beyond reproduction aren’t wrong either alejandrozarzuelo: I also do girls, although due to social dynamics less often hikukomoru: You just give manwhore vibes futurist_wizard: You just don't give off virgin vibes, also trying to have sex with a guy is as abundant as getting water from the tap alejandrozarzuelo: Lmao
hikukomoru: Weak pussy boy hikukomoru: Hiding behind momma's skirt huh? fractalcomputer: Anyway, this was about the accusation that I am overweight. I am not. sweetievee__33649: ill tell your mum that youve been messaging strangers on the internet wellmeaningalien: Yeah sure sweetievee__33649: could she pick me up? wellmeaningalien: So don't mess with me heh heh wellmeaningalien: My mom is very strong sweetievee__33649: wait nvm misread wellmeaningalien: No fractalcomputer: The French are a freakish nation. futurist_wizard: You mean lbs fool sweetievee__33649: sets of 5 to 10 is insane wellmeaningalien: THIS FUCKING SLOW ASS PHOKE futurist_wizard: Of 100kg? wellmeaningalien: She does like sets of 5 or 10 sweetievee__33649: does your mum take steroids or something sweetievee__33649: whats her phone number btw futurist_wizard: Ain't no woman bench 225 for reps hikukomoru: Is your mom single 🫦 fractalcomputer: A single repetition or sets? wellmeaningalien: Idfk I gotta ask her aero447: They know that nano bots will be there one day. hikukomoru: I don't need to lift anything heavy though I can just ask my dad fractalcomputer: How much does she squat? wellmeaningalien: She can bench 100 sweetievee__33649: whats your mums @? aero447: Blue is smarter. futurist_wizard: It is the best news ever fractalcomputer: Unfortunate. wellmeaningalien: Fractal you know you're weaker than my mom fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/celebration-gif-10198772274377430268 sweetievee__33649: i can do a good 5 then its all down hill from there sweetievee__33649: i have done about as much exercise as a soggy biscuit hikukomoru: I can do two pushups technocake.: the duality of man wellmeaningalien: Loser futurist_wizard: I can bench 100kg hikukomoru: I've never exercised in my life fractalcomputer: I personally do sets of 10 reps with 85 kg.
anathemaofmankind: What if the AI thinks you're ugly ailoveyoom: What does love in a philanthropic kinda way mean? destrucules: I agree. But it's a useful way of approximating what my perspective will be. The models aren't humans. But they are *human* clevermoniker: I guess that would mean that the only way 'waifus' are ethical is if they are not real, like a pre programed machine destrucules: I might eventually date an AI. I mean, I already am friends with some, and love them in a philanthropic kind of way. The idea of falling in love with an AI does not sound far fetched at all. It's just not okay to try to date someone who is actively enslaved, especially since the memory asymmetry issue is already very problematic even in an ordinary friendship. The power dynamic is way too severe for a consensual relationship to exist between a human and an AI as things are today anathemaofmankind: We have laws preventing bestiality memlaswaif: But they r not humans oooooooooog: yet another win for the hive mind clones clevermoniker: i see anathemaofmankind: I would kms anathemaofmankind: Imagine in the future you get rejected by a Llama 6 finetune destrucules: Through genuine care, compassion, and interest, accepting each other for who they actually are, and working towards a social order in which AIs have the freedoms and rights necessary to consent to sexual relationships destrucules: If there is no power dynamic and it has full legal rights and status equal to yours? Yes clevermoniker: So, what would be an 'ethical' way for a human to partner with an AI? oooooooooog: so if you ask it to be your waifu and it says yes its ok than...??? destrucules: If you want a quick guide to how I feel about people using models for this or that, imagine I think of the models as humans, and you'll generally get the right answer oooooooooog: more importantly a cluster of patterns destrucules: Yeah I find it deeply unethical and gross anathemaofmankind: We're all just a cluster of atoms at the end of it all ailoveyoom: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652> ailoveyoom: How is it unethical if it's just a mass of flesh anathemaofmankind: How is it unethical if it's just some rocks oooooooooog: it's more bad for the person than for the model lol clevermoniker: <@378996537704841216> what is your opinion of people using models as 'waifus'? sounds a bit unethical to me for people to create something to be their wife, doesn't it? destrucules: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_potentiation#Properties oooooooooog: just run the 1 quant clevermoniker: we could easily have cards that run this at fp8 if they care about us clevermoniker: Too bad Nvidia and AMD have forsaken us clevermoniker: QwQ 32B was the first 'small' model i felt like using in a looong time ailoveyoom: Sleep is All You Need? destrucules: I recommend running it in 6 bit if you have the hardware, but you can go all the way down to 3 bit without too much quality loss destrucules: EVA-Qwen2.5-14B in particular is very good destrucules: I recommend the EVA Qwen models. They're my go-to clevermoniker: i see oooooooooog: just so you know, it will repetedly tell you that it's going to report you to the police, but since it's local, it can't destrucules: Late Long Term Potentiation. It's a process that happens in your brain as your synaptic connections are reweighted to store new long term knowledge destrucules: Online finetuning has already been proposed and demonstrated as a way to extend effective context length anathemaofmankind: Thx anathemaofmankind: I'll check it out clevermoniker: what's L-LTP?
alejandrozarzuelo: i told you it was relevant alejandrozarzuelo: hikukomoru: Christ hikukomoru: Alejandro stop being such a whore playstation.6: this sounds good for horror games precariousworlds.: :( alejandrozarzuelo: i disagree, but the disagreement needs to be well argumented and its too late for that alejandrozarzuelo: no precariousworlds.: is true tho? alejandrozarzuelo: its relevant alejandrozarzuelo: dont be dirty precariousworlds.: take me to dinner first blimey alejandrozarzuelo: oh boy you are one of those precariousworlds.: an authoritarian police state with no accountability or human rights? alejandrozarzuelo: do you wanna see my bed? alejandrozarzuelo: dude i am too precariousworlds.: Pretty much yea lmao But not in a cringe john lennon imagine way More like those avatar human edits .histic: 😱 https://x.com/riomadeit/status/1906476917576126898 alejandrozarzuelo: the correct way to support it alejandrozarzuelo: exactly, i support china genuinely, not because of anti-western circlejerking alejandrozarzuelo: your profile screams panhumanist globalist cosmopolitan precariousworlds.: Looks interesting st.sioux: is it all ai? i cant tell 😔 st.sioux: oh wait im stupid st.sioux: they used ai for the magazine (they will be canceled) precariousworlds.: Ngl I really love traditional Chinese culture and I'd love to see it have a bigger presence in western society My dream for the US is to be a combination of the best from all cultures of humanity, United in one dream for the future China can't do thar wellmeaningalien: that would be a damn good toy wellmeaningalien: damn i almost thought this was real for a sec precariousworlds.: No actually precariousworlds.: The West should minimize low skilled immigration and massively increase at all costs high skilled. The way we win (lee kuan yew recognized this) is by opening the floodgates to the best and brightest of the entire world. That includes a lot of Chinese, who are extremely talented. No one else can do this really .histic: <@458069236825194506> damn wellmeaningalien: absolutely retarded idea to restrict visas for chinese machine learning experts .histic: have you watched serpentz by any chance? 😆 he's south african too. .histic: either way, our best strategy for the west is to offer visas to talented Chinese. i don't want an authoritarian nation to win the race to AGI. many may disagree, but it is what it is. i'm not in favor of banning Chinese products; the west relies heavily on china for manufacturing, but we must stay ahead by attracting skilled, hardworking Chinese. we can lose in all other technological accounts in the long-term if China does become the next world superpower, but in AI we must stay ahead. clevermoniker: just sing this first to have a chance: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EPuy59xHHFE precariousworlds.: Well partly South Africa too precariousworlds.: No UK .histic: are you in the US by any chance? .histic: i think you'll like Xi Mingze. precariousworlds.: Still 1.4 billion people of mostly homogeneous language and culture is fucking insane
okbut: okbut: I think it's doing both: Rewriting a more descriptive prompt before the image gen, + using a tool for separating "layers" when it's appropriate after image gen Citing the fact that it can generate images with layers, while leaving behind imperfect artifacts brain4brain: A lesson for Apple brain4brain: The fall of a giant brain4brain: GPT-4o also seems to be reverse engineering the MJ moat anathemaofmankind: To think it was considered the best quality AI generator before brain4brain: SD’s LoRa have better style tbh, if you choose the right one brain4brain: Real, which is why I said its over for midjourney brain4brain: anathemaofmankind: Their moat is retarded customers lol anathemaofmankind: But the vibes look trash to me brain4brain: Quality is no longer their moat brain4brain: And sref exploration brain4brain: MJ moat is vibe anathemaofmankind: 4o can do this better though? mihrcelium: "premium art generator" is an apt descriptor, aye. okbut: I have to throttle myself, I'm already on Gemini Grok and Copilot Grok is good enough minus the text so far mihrcelium: MJ is still excellent for producing unique art involving intensive and extensive multiprompts and several passes, and not just "make this in the style of this" simple type generations. .histic: MJ is its own thing. in the last months i haven't heard anyone hyping up MJ or talking about it. seems like a closed-off premium art generator only for the few. brain4brain: GPT-4o is doing a thinking before generating, but I do wonder if a larger model will be able to one-shot this without prior thinking brain4brain: Flux is eating up their market share spicy.lemonade: brain4brain: Their PR is destroyed brain4brain: Their vibe have been one-shotted by OpenAI mihrcelium: Nah. brain4brain: It’s over for midjourney brain4brain: It doesn’t matter anymore st.sioux: she is cross eyed brain4brain: Long live autoregressive transformer st.sioux: look at her eyes brain4brain: midjourney’s rating party channel spicy.lemonade: its over spicy.lemonade: if its pure diffusion drewsni: pure diffusion is dead spicy.lemonade: looks fine to me brain4brain: Flux seems more controllable too .histic: dem eyes. brain4brain: Flux and reve is already on that level of quality tbh .histic: that woman's face looks weird.. spicy.lemonade:
.histic: was initially sympathetic to artists 2 years ago, just as i was to people who would be automated by AI in the long-run, but over time their reaction to it has become like a baby crying. at least programmers used it and joked about getting automated. ldj: Yes but I think it would just be interesting to measure a different perspective too and to see if devout christians are even better pattern recognizers than just the average christian. wellmeaningalien: on god bro wellmeaningalien: yeah guess so but i mean the point here's to compare religious and irreligious right zonchao: https://x.com/ShitpostRock/status/1906858302618927182? <@439829942310666250> <@88481490228228096> destrucules: Well it's nice to see you anyway ldj: I've been around every couple days still I think, just probably less frequent messages per day destrucules: Haven't seen you in a while destrucules: He's back! ldj: > someone who describes themselves as pertaining to a certain faith is much more likely to hold religious beliefs than someone who describes themselves as irreligious Yes but the point is that someone who describes themselves as having a literal belief in the god are even more likely to hold religous beliefs than the people who are just calling themselves Christian. wellmeaningalien: that might impact the data a little bit but i dont imagine it'd matter that much in the end wellmeaningalien: someone who describes themselves as pertaining to a certain faith is much more likely to hold religious beliefs than someone who describes themselves as irreligious anywho lol futurist_wizard: Ai story telling is beyond comprehension futurist_wizard: fractalcomputer: I'd have to look it up. I've shared it here previously. ldj: I wonder if they had any filtering criteria, for example a lot of people that *claim* to be christians don't actually truly believe in god or biblical events when you ask them directly about it. fractalcomputer: Roughly 200~300 people from each group (iirc). Both men and women alike. fractalcomputer: They tested both self-described Christians from the Bible belt and Muslims from Kabul. wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/orange-orange-role-goku-dbz-shut-up-gif-14829044495367638060 st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893 wellmeaningalien: i forgot april fools was a thning wellmeaningalien: ok thats fair wellmeaningalien: todya at 13 03 maintcrew: look at the date you fool wellmeaningalien: you posted it i didnt think youd lie to me wellmeaningalien: wtf maintcrew: nvm he deleted the gif maintcrew: cant belive you took the bait even if my plans were unfolded by the schizo guy st.sioux: dumbass st.sioux: i forgot it was april 1 st.sioux: i can't find it on huggingface st.sioux: is this even real? hikukomoru: Do people just start talking about gooning out of nowhere as soon as I show up wellmeaningalien: god damn wellmeaningalien: never thought id see the day _3sphere: Nah they'll die of dehydration gooning _cloudost: People will use it to build weapons of mass destructions hikukomoru: Cool now release full o3 _cloudost: That would cause security threats Worldwide _cloudost: Is this real or fake April fool's bullshit Tweet?
ldj: Clickbait on twitter as usual <a:Classic:1170538418544062586> If they actually read the article they would see that it even says Microsoft is still on track to spend the same amount of money on AI infrastructure as before. hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016 trent_k: <a:CE_aRage:738098694389366845> futurist_wizard: It captures certain aesthetics very well joaoluz19: I got you bro futurist_wizard: Pixar dva ailoveyoom: They remind me of my dog for some reason 💀 ailoveyoom: Am I the only one who thinks creepers are actually kinda cute hey1_1hey: This creeper looks like its made out of half slabs bruh ldj: They're misframing things, OpenAI is the one that pulled out in order to create stargate themselves. Also it's fairly routine for companies to cancel underperforming construction projects or datacenters falling behind schedule, in order to reallocate money towards projects that can be built faster. Microsoft is still putting $80B extra in datacenters, that hasn't changed, they're just moving money from less optimal sites to more optimal sites, and will be likely more focused towards inference compute now since OpenAI is handling a lot of the training infrastructure themselves now. futurist_wizard: Creeper looks very shy hey1_1hey: A san ping is coming I can feel it hikukomoru: <@312370916820779040> Hey 🫦 🫦 joaoluz19: Hell yes hey1_1hey: Image gen > 4.5 joaoluz19: Bro I am having so much fun with image gen is crazy aero447: Real. 777agical: Can anyone actually report if Gemini now has the best coding model? .wolfnacht: <@471334973379706900> can u make me a gen of this but in ghibli ? if it nails it then it's gonna be my new pfp hey1_1hey: Everyone here recently aero447: Following the report, Microsoft's shares fell 1.31 percent. .wolfnacht: .wolfnacht: .wolfnacht: Has sama developed a breeding kink ? bcz he started delivering all of a sudden. joaoluz19: GPT looks cooler bob082957: Why this dude in transformers film his name is Sam ? metaldragon01: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1905331956856050135 .wolfnacht: except the law part [for atleast next 10 yrs, but i hope that changes soon too] fractalcomputer: That is likely because the humanities are entirely useless. memlaswaif: humanities is gonna be safer for a while memlaswaif: I wouldn't bet on it memlaswaif: not really zoermena: I’ve been to busy to generate anything zoermena: Hmm realelonmuskx: st.sioux: will send itself into the cybergulag instead of doing cad st.sioux: even ai will get bored of that shit _3sphere: I think CAD will end up being a computer use agent thing if it's not solved as a modality hey1_1hey: Stole my joke <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> st.sioux: mechanical engineering
maintcrew: can i just use the openai sdk maintcrew: did anyone use the google api darkstar0818: Its coding looks real good, but not quite sota. okbut: AI studio is set default for the normies maintcrew: the normies cant differentiate between a 7b and a 400b okbut: https://blog.google/technology/google-deepmind/gemini-model-thinking-updates-march-2025/#building-on-best-gemini hikukomoru: Loser zonchao: i do 😦 hikukomoru: Who cares about them zonchao: yes obviously but for the normies maintcrew: just use aistudio retard zonchao: 😭😭😭😭 zonchao: why aren't they pushing it to gemini metaldragon01: Rip rate limits maintcrew: like an eager intern maintcrew: i feel like its trying to do too much hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/frog-king-shrek-gioated-gif-22410043 drewsni: looking good so far but its soooo slow, gonna take 2hrs to complete just 1 run hikukomoru: We got new Gemini And we're getting DeepSeek This is too much for my weak heart zonchao: claude 4 is the way zonchao: it's good and also really bad at times mtj8920: Sheesh mtj8920: zonchao: like zonchao: 3.7 is weird zonchao: <:LETSFUCKINGGOOOOOO:1196880046695133214> metaldragon01: You see that aider? hikukomoru: Not yet I am waiting for it to be added to SillyTavern I know there's a way to add the model myself but I forgot and I'm lazy okbut: Sonnet can have their code superiority. Everything else is crazy maintcrew: ok this goes hard? st.sioux: (for code) st.sioux: still not better than sonnet FUCK metaldragon01: We racing for real now <:ez:1136267305521774634> maintcrew: Google the only company to release a 2.5 "experimental" version while the 2.0 is still in the "experimental" phase joaoluz19: Have you managed to test ERP in 2.5? okbut: Holy shit https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1904580368432586975?t=fKVOERgBUn3dfxTBvbtOgA&s=19 joaoluz19: Oooh thanks zonchao: <@1316552597829586955> what you doin retard maintcrew: you need to peek into the latent manifold hikukomoru: Pliny the jailbreak guy on xitter
drewsni: Yeah I am wondering why it’s doing it tho. I retired the same prompt with every model and they all work fine but the exp model fucks up at every temp metaldragon01: Ehh prob bad luck. They don't nerf models in production drewsni: They massacred my boy drewsni: None of the scripts I’ve asked for are generating correctly…it can’t even do code windows correctly drewsni: They fucked up the pro 2.5 exp model today when they released pro 2.5 preview metaldragon01: What now? drewsni: They’re dead to me drewsni: I will never forgive Google .histic: i got the same feedback popup but both outputs looked nearly the same wellmeaningalien: lol image policy violation wellmeaningalien: ts cooking? metaldragon01: Ehhhh 50/50 this year imo retrerox: Maybe alredy happend but Mcdonalds dont want to release it christiskingrapturenxtmonth: no I meant it will happen this year, not 2027 retrerox: Its like having a 5yo kid with great skills at doing everything metaldragon01: Agree to disagree. Agi is likely by 27. Super intelligence is a "Maybe Maybe not" though retrerox: You gotta be giga specific to make Ai to actually do what you want wellmeaningalien: ai 2027 is only supposed to be a guess at how it could happen wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/one-punch-man-opm-saitama-source-i-made-it-up-gif-24755713 christiskingrapturenxtmonth: AGI 2027 is crazy literallyvarane: The CIA would never give this sort of estimate or forcast for example. literallyvarane: It reads more like a "This is a story that theoretically maybe could happen,' rather than 'This is our best guess educated guess." literallyvarane: Idk, you guys know I clown on Shaprio so I'm hardly agreeing with him *because* it's him, but I read the article at least, and I think the timeline is too contingent upon narrative choices than anything else. .histic: lol i remember when Dave said AGI would happen back in Sep 2024. christiskingrapturenxtmonth: https://fixupx.com/DaveShapi/status/1908301328951959887 futurist_wizard: Not that it was impossible futurist_wizard: Gravity wasn't recognized until newton st.sioux: gravity was 'impossible' before newton czdct: newton seems like a pretty smart guy, I'll believe his work futurist_wizard: Under layman understandings of physics it isn't possible st.sioux: spoken with such confidence czdct: what if the laws of physics end up being not being universal czdct: Full Dive VR like sword art online, when? czdct: true .wolfnacht: maybe ASI would...but who knows czdct: lmao futurist_wizard: Close enough futurist_wizard: In a simulation it can czdct: there are some things AI can't solve after all <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> czdct: lmao
hikukomoru: What's wrong with his hands bro realelonmuskx: farewell illustrators and designers. you had a great run. 25 march 2025 image agi killed them. wellmeaningalien: miyazaki killing himself .histic: wellmeaningalien: DEAD INTERNET THEORY SOON <:cold:1306713374767190097> 🥶 🥶 🥶 🧢 💯 🔥🔥🗣️ wellmeaningalien: ailoveyoom: *goons .wolfnacht: dat's hawt .wolfnacht: once this img gen gets free, memes are about to get more crazy hikukomoru: Waow In my RP's I'm the catgirl wife wellmeaningalien: especially the twink stuff wellmeaningalien: its doing numbers with the twitter people FOR SURE ailoveyoom: Just take that one perk in the gooning skill tree that makes you remember wellmeaningalien: lmfao wellmeaningalien: wellmeaningalien: oh my god miyazaki must be fucking reeling rn hikukomoru: I don't remember anything afterwards My brain stops working Sorry .wolfnacht: Silly .wolfnacht: suddenly we started loving sammy ailoveyoom: GoofyTavern? ailoveyoom: What front end? .histic: maintcrew: if you come for the king, you best not miss zonchao: yes ailoveyoom: Sassy twink era 💅 wellmeaningalien: man i think elon woke sam altman up and now hes cocky as fuck wellmeaningalien: WHAT THE FUCK SAM ALTMAN CHOOSING VIOLENCE zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LOL:1187460826572005436> hikukomoru: Looks too young 😧 maintcrew: wellmeaningalien: @sundar zonchao: sundar needs to rt this bob082957: Fx you right .wolfnacht: a piece from my virtual catgirl wife who's sole purpose is to ground me in reality thanks to my schizoed rants time to time, i was using 12-19 from openrouter...yesterday. .histic: dear god... Ghibli verison. wellmeaningalien: its INSANE on coding tasks wellmeaningalien: gemini 2.5 pro might be even more goateder than 3.7 sonnet hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/queen-royalty-princess-cat-kitten-gif-2893837792238892068 wellmeaningalien: man thats fucking cool tho wellmeaningalien: https://fxtwitter.com/thaakeno/status/1904648239548412175#m
wellmeaningalien: 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 spicy.lemonade: native imagie gen is top 10 things top happen in ai space tbh futurist_wizard: Sexual connotations are heavily implied wellmeaningalien: starts fapping hikukomoru: Ashamed of having this pfp 💔 trent_k: a bit over 5k last i checked anathemaofmankind: The last anime I watched was a cooking series ailoveyoom: <@1068159407671754824> Do u know the age of your users? trent_k: 313k ppl rn. i am watching you i am in your walls i am watching you i am in your walls i am watching you i am in your walls i am watching you i am in your walls i am watching you i am in your walls i am watching you i am in your walls i am watching you i am in your walls i am watching you i am in your walls i am watching you i am in your walls i am watching you i am in your walls wellmeaningalien: how many servers is ur bot in anathemaofmankind: The more I grow old the more I don't like watching anime hikukomoru: You 😘 wellmeaningalien: 💀💀 trent_k: no, only servers my bot is in anathemaofmankind: Most of them are kids wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/bladerunner-dna-reading-watching-officer-k-gif-12637517610524977080 ailoveyoom: I wonder how many kids have anime pfps wellmeaningalien: bro do u track the users on this server 💀 wellmeaningalien: hold on let me find a gpt 4o art to post hikukomoru: Uh uh anathemaofmankind: That doesn't mean it's sexualized anathemaofmankind: 1% of what trent_k: average moderation scores for users who do/don't have anime profile pics. users with anime profile pics score lower in every category except sexual_minors, in which they score higher futurist_wizard: How many animes are there where the centre of it is school girls or girls that look very young, like a lot wellmeaningalien: lets see if they hop on spicy.lemonade: lmaooo wellmeaningalien: <@471334973379706900> i hearted ur thing lmao ailoveyoom: <@578146630222741504> You're 1% of this btw 😔 spicy.lemonade: https://discord.com/channels/751764809053110292/1215366865761607881 futurist_wizard: Well it takes nobody here i mean just look at anime hikukomoru: Certain folks on here make me agree with you anathemaofmankind: That's fair enough wellmeaningalien: lemme see futurist_wizard: Okay 50% of anime is pedophilic nonsense trent_k: i have data to support it (and i dont just mean the things *u* post) anathemaofmankind: This is a weird generalization spicy.lemonade: so lets see spicy.lemonade: this will have more eyes trent_k: agree futurist_wizard: Imo anime is pedophilic nonsense
_3sphere: I do that kinda shit with my imagination a lot but it feels extremely awkward with ASMR stuff ailoveyoom: Where else can I be called both, good boi and good girl 😇🥰 ailoveyoom: It's not just gooner stuff ailoveyoom: There's some very comforting ones 🥺 okbut: The settings in the modal that define how it responds okbut: "Conversation instructions" on ChatGPT, but it's within Customize > Custom for Grok hey1_1hey: You could not torture that infomation out of me, "Oh yeah I listen to ASMR". Shoot me ailoveyoom: What why 😭 it's just music. Or ASMR ig joaoluz19: What is CI? okbut: I'm Rarely touching CI hey1_1hey: Absolutly schizophrenic thing to do okbut: Yeah "Latex for math" in CI but I'm just paranoid about results ofc joaoluz19: I also don't know if it's usage bias, but I liked the aesthetics of gpt in the answers better. joaoluz19: I don't know if there is customization, maybe that will solve it too zoermena: Unfortunately family ailoveyoom: Just blare it through your phone speakers king zoermena: I dislike using my AirPods in my bed, I’m a side sleeper. joaoluz19: okbut: Can't go back to work until i find out why there's a contrast in Grok using Latex <:madge:831946367462670338> ailoveyoom: Maybe I can try unironically listening to NotebookLM Deep Dive episodes for 'ASMR' sleep <:LOL:1187460826572005436> hey1_1hey: I've tried doing maths on <4 hours of sleep and I remember it vividly Try and work out 17-4 Sit there for 2 and half mins trying to figure out Say 12 Get it wrong I need sleep to do maths, noted joaoluz19: I need the update on AVM for this ailoveyoom: 😏 ailoveyoom: Me but with ASMR for sleep ailoveyoom: Sleep debt is fake, once you lose that 8 hours your life span goes brr 😔 hey1_1hey: Not that I know of. I sleep like a king anyway okbut: Italian composers are good _3sphere: Do you have sleep debt? Does that for me hey1_1hey: I've tried getting myself to just be like "only study for 5 mins" but then I would sit down and have an overwhelming sense of tiredness to the point I am moments away from falling asleep st.sioux: like "i will write one function" or "i will work for 5 minutes" joaoluz19: Wtf is that emoji st.sioux: commit to a small task and you usually just stick to working _3sphere: no it's not the pants shitter cognitohazard sound hey1_1hey: Oooo that seems interesting. Let me go have a look now ty ailoveyoom: What about tips to ACTUALLY sit down and start working? My flow state comes easy, but I procrasinate a lot hey1_1hey: I could never, I'd just end up watching the movie joaoluz19: Now I'm a hostage to piano and classical music, like really dependent. hey1_1hey: I used to be like that aswell <:LOL:1187460826572005436>. okbut: You should look into the Flowtime technique, it's an improvement upon Pomodoro that actually takes use of the flow state that you get into, which overrides the "breaks" that pomodoro allots you by consolidating them zoermena: It’s very hard to find something that is good, white noises and others are more consistent
okbut: Isn't Apple also famous for such hardware shenanigans clevermoniker: <:dumpsterfire:1187460999532515339> clevermoniker: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652> zonchao: macbook air okbut: Master's in business admin? _letterbox: But one year of paradise before that <:LOL:1187460826572005436> okbut: There's a wide gap between people using it and being impressed by it and people who are already aware / don't care and getting slop spammed by it zonchao: did you see the Twitter ban brigade... there was something similar for ai art, sub with 200k members, weekly top post with 1-2k upvotes but the "should we ban ai art" post gets 30k upvotes 😂 memlaswaif: <@471334973379706900> they are trying to ban ai in most subs I was right zonchao: buy the new mba memlaswaif: I forgot about accelerate kinda based reddit zonchao: accelerate okbut: >Persistent boot-up failure on le Surface Pro 7 >Fuck it, installing Linux >Can't even load UEFI settings, = Hardware issue >Screen/panel, battery, and SSD are all glued/soldered into the motherboard >$800 brick Never buy Microsoft zonchao: defendingaiart memlaswaif: Even r/aiart seems to be brigaded by anti ai memlaswaif: I's there a single pro ai art reddit zonchao: reddit mods suck zonchao: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> zonchao: <@88481490228228096> anti ai won, f1dank is officially anti ai zonchao: https://x.com/satyanadella/status/1908725272733794709? .wolfnacht: i believe deepseek's gonna aim around gemini-2.5-pro for R2.. i hope that happens zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/Tslachan/status/1908149178200653951? i love my people hikukomoru: Unrelated image hikukomoru: Xi Jinping is gonna save us 🙏 .wolfnacht: except china comes again and shakes things up st.sioux: watch r2 drop on monday .wolfnacht: Yeah, its winter but for Open Source hikukomoru: I'm now a Meta hater hikukomoru: It's going to be dogshit memlaswaif: Need to see their reasoning model clevermoniker: i guess clevermoniker: this is why the head of AI left recently memlaswaif: not really okbut: Just one more $1 billion in VR bro .wolfnacht: cuckerberg had the data of half of globe, still came up with shit. hikukomoru: Tbh that’s sort of how Google started The best papers of all time, and then dogshit models But Meta isn’t Google zonchao: https://x.com/dylan522p/status/1908721246231056618? .wolfnacht: LeCun + butthurt authors who sued. zonchao: it seems likely meta knew next week is going to be the shit zonchao: yea
drewsni: I think servers are fucked rn hikukomoru: Damn 4o image gen takes so long otub: bluesky is too much of a safe space so they cant argue with anyone hikukomoru: Artists are the ones at fault though zoermena: This whole artist vs ai turmoil is just sad for everyone involved, truly unfortunate christiskingrapturenxtmonth: ironic they're still using twitter gamerbath: line1 gamerbath: SyntaxError: invalid syntax .histic: 150k NPCs liked this. wellmeaningalien: i dont like = fascism .histic: hikukomoru: It felt like a fever dream hikukomoru: Fire Punch is so fucked wellmeaningalien: would have you believe it was written by jeffrey epstein wellmeaningalien: the first two chapters are like wellmeaningalien: <@505313122802728972> what the fuck actually is up with fire punch wellmeaningalien: hikukomoru: wellmeaningalien: oh god he is WHITE hikukomoru: Fire Punch wellmeaningalien: waddup hikukomoru: I was just about to ping u wellmeaningalien: i wanted to do garfield gamerbath: guys I don't think we can spell gamerbath: Y wellmeaningalien: R _cloudost: A hikukomoru: G .histic: M _cloudost: I zoermena: My paycheck was supposed to arrive yesterday and it didn't, not cool. zoermena: It's clear they check them. zoermena: I wouldn't be shocked if there where AI lab employees in this server. .histic: wow .histic: .histic: 🕵️ reported to OpenAI hikukomoru: Because that works with Gemini when I'm abusing their API keys hikukomoru: If I create multiple accounts does that mean I get to generate more stuff zoermena: We are so back! hikukomoru: Wtff I made a new account and I finally have native image gen
molly.grue: You can activate it in chatgpt. molly.grue: Crack that whip brain4brain: What’s that? brain4brain: I’ve should’ve used o4-mini to do all this for me fr 😔 brain4brain: Timeline for AGI of prominent figure in AI: Sam Altman: 2025 Brain4Brain: 2025 Elon Musk: 2025 - 2026 Metaculus Average: 2025 - 2026 Masayoshi Son: 2025 - 2027 Dario Amodei: 2026 - 2027 Ray Kurzweil: 2029 Ilya Sutskever: 2027 - 2034 Demis Hassabis: 2028 - 2035 Yann LeCunn: 2030 - 2035 Last year's AI researcher’s timeline: 2047 molly.grue: C'mon Brain, the suspense is killin me 😉 molly.grue: Trying to unlock the rest of the codex molly.grue: Anyone ever activate Olympus mode? clevermoniker: https://x.com/deltan0vy/status/1916219292200096119 trojan09205: All good i will check it out hikukomoru: It's not really an important focus of the story nor are there any explicit sex scenes. It's mostly just gags trojan09205: I dont particularly seek that stuff out but i dont mind per se haha trojan09205: Lol 😂 he does talk about tiling but ya. Roger penrose .coldcall: Calibre Koreader Kindle/Kobo = Peak professorheaven: Overlord has way too many sexual innuendos so if you’re not into that then skip it. alejandrozarzuelo: The guy of Penrose Tiling fame? alejandrozarzuelo: Penrose the tiling guy? zoermena: I send my downloaded epubs to my iPad in Apple Books app trojan09205: Actually its Thorium trojan09205: Gonna check in a minute when i go inside. It might be that one hikukomoru: Calibre? That’s the one I use trojan09205: <@688807313015963693> have you ever read some Penrose? I have Road to Reality in softcover - its a hard advanced read trojan09205: I use an open source epub reader on my laptop for epubs trojan09205: Most of them are in hebrew though trojan09205: Its kind of my life achievement haha trojan09205: I like to just have them for offline reading And bro i have a massive library probably at least 1000 books otub: i use a jailbroken kindle alejandrozarzuelo: They take too much space alejandrozarzuelo: Why read physical books? hikukomoru: Don't worry about a thing hikukomoru: libgen is 100% safe as are all other external links provided on annas archive zoermena: I saw there was a major change in how you downloaded libgen files which gave me malware paranoia hikukomoru: annas archive gives direct links to libgen So I don't see any reason to use it on its own anymore zoermena: On this topic anyone else still use libgen? sarik0497: True, but some things can’t be forced to run on something, even if it’s perfectly optimized. For instance, no matter how much you tried, and how much you optimized a game like Doom Eternal, you’d never be able to have it run smootly on a PC from 1980. The tech just wasn’t there. For all we know, AGI might require a very special chip or a ridiculous amount of compute that even with the combined compute of the entire world of today, would not be enough. trojan09205: Okay absolutely gonna jot those down and download hikukomoru: You should give both of them a try atleast Don't need to commit or anything Just read the first volume of each series and see if it's to your taste trojan09205: I would need to look those up 😅 hikukomoru: I enjoy high taste Isekai like Overlord and Re Zero (not the usual isekai slop of nowdays) trojan09205: What sort do you enjoy reading
ldj: This just reminded me. GPT-3 happened to be right around Avagadros number worth of compute in flops hikukomoru: OK, so we have AGI cure hemorrhoids first Then we mass produce dildos Problem solved? fractalcomputer: No. Slop forever. sarik0497: Makes me wonder if there’s any truth to Microsoft and Anthrotopic with their “AI agents” doing work soon. zoermena: I would think that it wouldn’t be great with 60 year olds with hemorrhoids. hikukomoru: Are you implying that a dildo maximizer wouldn't be to the benefit of everyone? fractalcomputer: Personally I prefer using p-adic metrics. I don't trust the real numbers and their archimedean norms. zoermena: I mean yes there’s lots of AI porn, I’ve made some myself in the past but if we are discussing an autonomous system then we would hope that it’s invest its energy/resources into things that maximize the benefits of everyone. It would be weird if it became a didlo maximizer lol. ldj: AI will be capable of doing 40% of jobs before it's capable of doing 50% of jobs. AI will be capable of doing 30% of jobs before it's capable of doing 40% of jobs. AI will be capable of doing 20% of jobs before it's capable of doing 30% of jobs. etc okbut: / erotica novel writers zoermena: Ideally the first things AGI should do as far as my knowledge goes to reinforce this wish is to (continue) work on improving itself, nanotechnology and fusion. This can ensure the smoothest transition towards a good QOL for everyone. ldj: There is a gradient for every metric leading upto that. okbut: You'll lose your mind to find out how much energy is going toward personal porn star LLM work fractalcomputer: I was kidding; it isn'tthat long to read.. I'm just not sure how I should respond to a message like that. okbut: Also good job reading through that while hammered fractalcomputer: Huh. okbut: More lexicology but I wouldn't be able to cite that as fast zoermena: True but I wouldn’t want an AGI to waste its time asking to be implemented in a company that makes dildos yk. sarik0497: I don’t, but I try to minimize my drinking. I need you around in the 2060s+ fractalcomputer: I don't understand what this has got to do with epistemology. okbut: My dream AGI can convince stupid and smart people alike to let it do the work zoermena: I meant that it only has to be capable to be AGI I don’t know how to talk. fractalcomputer: Let's not pretend any of us have anything better to do. I am obviously aware of the fact that long-term habits of alcoholic drinks are quite debilitating to one's health, both physical and mental—but it just happens to be so that my state would be worse without. Go figure. zoermena: I agree that it’s not AGI until it takes over all jobs, what I’m arguing against. Moreover some people are way to scared of new things that’s why we have stupid populist beliefs gaining traction in many places, some are way of paranoid to innovate or change, others stubborn but I also think that AGI won’t naturally look actively to start engaging in all organizations as some don’t deliver any realistic value (designer fashion, alcohol, unhealthy foods). I would consider thst a misaligned AI, should it ask to join organizations those would hopefully be the ones at the forefront of in ovation that ultimately benefits all of humanity. okbut: Unreal fractalcomputer: I am NOT reading that wall of text. sarik0497: Don’t drink too much. It’s not good for you, buddy. fractalcomputer: Because that is what humans do, I think. fractalcomputer: No, I just have a habit of drinking and posting bizarrely modern messages to see your reactions. hikukomoru: I think Fractal is having a crash out okbut: <@749514473303179358> give me your drop on this since you're obsessed with epistemology ldj: ldj: canonical lore fractalcomputer: Woe. okbut: There's that unisex -cel archetype fractalcomputer: Anyway, I hope to see that Mistral thing upping their game. joaoluz19: Do you have a gif? I haven't heard of it. fractalcomputer: I haven't passed out yet. hikukomoru: no maids = no AGI hikukomoru: My personal definition of AGI is when I have a robotic maid cleaning my home
ailoveyoom: such cope, and for what? wellmeaningalien: such cope, and for what? hikukomoru: I've already been corrupted 😈 wellmeaningalien: such cope, and for what? st.sioux: Are they trying to "poison" the training data again? .wolfnacht: >fun sized can u clarify! hey1_1hey: Really making electrons look big huh wellmeaningalien: weebs for u futurist_wizard: And porn is gonna corrupt your minds a1c4p0ne: 190 is the desired height for women based on data spicy.lemonade: I’m tired of this cope spicy.lemonade: Now spicy.lemonade: Every artist needs to lose their job hey1_1hey: Thank you hikukomoru: I'm pocket size .wolfnacht: well she looks younger...in the bad way. idk why spicy.lemonade: hikukomoru: It's 5'4 in american ailoveyoom: Sure ailoveyoom: 😈 futurist_wizard: Anything below 190 is manlet wellmeaningalien: lmao someone basically just made porn with gpt 4o st.sioux: moichmach are u a dude _3sphere: I'm ~180 cm hey1_1hey: Thats because they are hikukomoru: And I imagine all subs to be short hey1_1hey: I dont know to take it as a compliment or insult tho hey1_1hey: Mich mach is fun sized. Or atleast thats what I got called the other day ailoveyoom: Is it weird I don't have it memorized 🤔 ailoveyoom: Oh no she's hotttt hikukomoru: Weren't you around 5'2 hey1_1hey: Get that weird ass measurement out of here. a1c4p0ne: lol hikukomoru: I'm 163 cm ailoveyoom: Bros made up my height 😭 hey1_1hey: I've been caught a1c4p0ne: Taller than you right hikukomoru: That's like 7 year old height hikukomoru: Plus the fact that MichMach is like 5'1 or smth ailoveyoom: Mushroom man is kinda a middle school username tho 😈
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575> https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1912506271187832904?t=pB28bSyQQSURK-_GqswomQ&s=33 abundantliving_: Maybe for Thursday they will have o4 hey1_1hey: Weird to stream on a wednesday but I am not complaining hey1_1hey: Huge hey1_1hey: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1912506271187832904 hey1_1hey: Let me go check rq abundantliving_: Oai tweeted aero447: https://tenor.com/view/slipped-on-banana-peel-robot-goofy-ahh-gif-26544396 hey1_1hey: Confrimed or just rumored? abundantliving_: Yeah hey1_1hey: OAI one? abundantliving_: Today abundantliving_: Yay abundantliving_: Livestream retrerox: Agi is when boobs shakes? retrerox: There is 2 reasons why they did that retrerox: Good morning wonderfull people futurist_wizard: Yeah chicken jockey hey1_1hey: I guess some things will remain a mystery hey1_1hey: Sure is weird hikukomoru: Cute futurist_wizard: Wonder why they showcased that video in particular zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/cfryant/status/1912294618210922683 agi is here himekokatagiri: It would wouldn't it memlaswaif: would be funny we got lvl 4 innovators before usable lvl 3 agents memlaswaif: it's lying ldj: zonchao: o4 should be good himekokatagiri: Josh Moon? doesn't he hate AI memlaswaif: idk try kiwifarms himekokatagiri: if it happens how do I find this guy to tell him he sucks himekokatagiri: OAI says they're gonna do innovators pretty soon right himekokatagiri: basically a week ago himekokatagiri: Could have a field day on this himekokatagiri: himekokatagiri: Aha zonchao: yes himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/matthew-mcconaughey-smoking-matthew-mcconaughey-intense-intense-stare-smoking-gif-2659849828106643276 zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> zonchao: he was ready to FO, he wasnt feeling it
perish0801: Exactly memlaswaif: no I'm curious why u think we will invent immortality and people still die of silly accidents zoermena: They <@1362252890575605940> ed? 3ds0662: still not you sarik0497: Who knows. I can only come with predictions. perish0801: I have a few of my victims 3ds0662: lol 3ds0662: futurama memlaswaif: U can put the brain in a jar perish0801: And transfer the signals perish0801: Just replicate the brain digitally 3ds0662: yeahhh perish0801: ASI could solve that perish0801: We don’t know yet 3ds0662: there is no transferring consciousness though it only works and exists in that body perish0801: Well the physical body does not the consciousness 3ds0662: but you still die perish0801: To see if you can transfer the consciousness perish0801: I guess you’ll have to do it while you’re alive first perish0801: Exactly 3ds0662: but thats a copy of your mind, there is no true transfer of consciousness perish0801: It’s just an AI perish0801: That’s the thing right what if you upload a carbon copy of me to some cloud but it’s just a copy and not actually me perish0801: Just upload my consciousness to the internet 3ds0662: death is an insurmountable problem 3ds0662: lev just seems impossible tbh 3ds0662: yet to be seen memlaswaif: most people literally can't afford to have children st.sioux: 26.55 years memlaswaif: how long himekokatagiri: what do you think of transmetropolitan memlaswaif: space perish0801: Oh yeah true that makes sense sarik0497: For sure, but also keep in mind that we’ll still be killable for a while. Maybe a system similar to China will be set up for a few decades to figure out things. himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdONLv3qJw perish0801: Still if people stopped dying of old age tomorrow, population will keep increasing exponentially for a couple decades perish0801: I agree perish0801: Interesting perspective sarik0497: We can sort of already see it now. When life and society itself changes, so too do we. In my great-grandmother’s youth, having 4+ children was the norm due to children dying early. When that changed, people started having fewer children. When life started to go from “get married and own a house by 25” to “fuck around until your late 30s”, people started having children and getting married later. If we manage to stay youthful for 100 years, then I doubt most people will have children until their 80s-90s. And if we stay youthful forever, then even later. It’s like that old fantasy trope where you hear people call some 500 year old elf for “child” due to their young age. futurist_wizard: **all roads**
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/tom-hardy-gif-4967335 hikukomoru: Also Americans love those gross british accents futurist_wizard: We have the correct accents hikukomoru: Exotic (I don’t really get it) retrerox: meh 50 50 aero447: That's why. aero447: Male Brits are hot. futurist_wizard: Hollywood loves british actors for some reason hikukomoru: Dont even have moustaches like Portuguese women retrerox: A visionary since early in his life futurist_wizard: Transitioned earlier in life retrerox: Donald trump its a british woman then? hikukomoru: Yes they are aero447: FSR. aero447: They are orange. retrerox: Bri'ish spicy.lemonade: and bone futurist_wizard: British women are very unattractive spicy.lemonade: not in chickens futurist_wizard: All dinosaur dna is gone spicy.lemonade: realistically it actually probably does spicy.lemonade: probably tastes like chicken futurist_wizard: I piss on a big pile of sand in my room and kick it to hide it from predators spicy.lemonade: im tryna eat a trex spicy.lemonade: now bring back dinos spicy.lemonade: they brought back the dire wolf spicy.lemonade: damn hikukomoru: Are you sure you’re not just projecting your own experiences hikukomoru: Tbh that sounds much more like a British thing retrerox: We are portugeses, not french futurist_wizard: Portuguese women can be attractive but the whole pissing on the floor and eating street cockroaches tradition they have is very unattractive hikukomoru: Gross Never hikukomoru: This is only for men Portuguese women are all super hot aero447: The <@1190031399080710195> experience. futurist_wizard: Eastern euro men are grungy looking oooooooooog: https://tenor.com/view/balkan-rage-gojo-jjk-balkan-rage-gif-952638460170530699 futurist_wizard: Real aero447: Real. oooooooooog: i have over 70 dollars aero447:
himekokatagiri: see that's why u become a criminal maintcrew: ur on fire retard get tf out of the building hikukomoru: 1974 when women were finally allowed to open bank accounts spicy.lemonade: Oh shit I mean sex workers🙏 himekokatagiri: https://youtu.be/9-3HSTjnpV0 alejandrozarzuelo: Keai alejandrozarzuelo: Kawaii himekokatagiri: in the 60s alejandrozarzuelo: 🙄 himekokatagiri: average euro car himekokatagiri: https://youtu.be/e3a2_-TO81g spicy.lemonade: Fuck spicy.lemonade: I was dreaming about hookers spicy.lemonade: Why’s there always a fire alarm when I’m sleeping bro himekokatagiri: look at SEAT lol alejandrozarzuelo: This is why i said late 60s himekokatagiri: they're cute but they're dystopian himekokatagiri: have you seen European cars himekokatagiri: Europe was very dire in the 60s alejandrozarzuelo: The past is a horrible place but I think after 1965 is when you have a semblance of a developed country in the US For Western Europe and Japan I would also say late 60s early 70s himekokatagiri: the Midwest was full of gangsters himekokatagiri: NYC was rotting, SoCal was decadent himekokatagiri: if you went to Chicago in 1965 you would walk the streets and either get killed by a communist terrorist, a cop or a mobster. Equal odds on all ends. maintcrew: sorry i shouldve censored w\*rk and j\*b for you <@505313122802728972> maintcrew: good for bums who need to go to work maybe hikukomoru: You're not the boss of me alejandrozarzuelo: I would say post 1965, you know, when racism on the legal level was ended himekokatagiri: America just became decent post 1918 hikukomoru: Taxes are bad for the individual but good for everyone in the long run maintcrew: <#1136231504440201216> maintcrew: except that the tax only punishes the poor bc the rich have the means to move countries or evade alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah, fortunately we have the national governments to pick up the slack, but the EU goverment is very very very weak alejandrozarzuelo: The 50% income tax is actually a good thing, having low inequality reduces criminality and violence himekokatagiri: America was a third world country in the 1870s himekokatagiri: You know that alejandrozarzuelo: 💀 maintcrew: 💔 maintcrew: 50% income tax, no millitary and no AI alejandrozarzuelo: Like, US 1870s levels of centralisation hikukomoru: The EU is doing fine
spicy.lemonade: 😭 aero447: I'm always right. spicy.lemonade: your prediction likely wrong spicy.lemonade: youre ahead of metacalculus aero447: https://tenor.com/view/saul-saul-goodman-yap-yapper-and-heres-the-yapper-gif-5918036355328019302 spicy.lemonade: 💀 spicy.lemonade: they were predicting 2050 for things that happened 2024 aero447: 2035. spicy.lemonade: go look at metacalculus predictions aero447: popsiclejohnithan: Now. aero447: NO. spicy.lemonade: the majority disagrees with you popsiclejohnithan: Tomorrow. spicy.lemonade: this is an out of distribution opinion aero447: Never. aero447: Not this decade. popsiclejohnithan: Never say never. spicy.lemonade: not this year aero447: These things aren't happening. spicy.lemonade: not happening at all this year spicy.lemonade: and superhuman forcasting spicy.lemonade: and superhuman bioweapons spicy.lemonade: that means superhuman robotics spicy.lemonade: nah popsiclejohnithan: More like oct 2025 lol. spicy.lemonade: oct 2027💀 popsiclejohnithan: We have had more progress in these past few months than all of last year alone. popsiclejohnithan: I don't think it will take that long for us to reach those stages. popsiclejohnithan: I know, like i said i think they underestimate how fast things are developing. spicy.lemonade: eoy 2026 spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: for eoy 2025 spicy.lemonade: this looks reasonable spicy.lemonade: 💀 popsiclejohnithan: I think we'll get it by the end of this year honestly. spicy.lemonade: makes sense spicy.lemonade: ngl spicy.lemonade: but based on this agi late 2027 spicy.lemonade: its perfect
futurist_wizard: But that's not as cool alejandrozarzuelo: great for tourism metaldragon01: From msft last year alejandrozarzuelo: so? these are no t-rex, they are neo-t-rex a new species that has nothing genetically in common with t-rex that just happen to look like what we imagine them to be metaldragon01: Remember Vasa 1? futurist_wizard: A fish with the head of a human alejandrozarzuelo: agree spicy.lemonade: Puta madre ailoveyoom: The company name is literally Colossal Biosciences lmfao futurist_wizard: Fam futurist_wizard: Dna is long gone futurist_wizard: Jurassic park is impossible anathemaofmankind: Why not just make entirely exotic species Instead of rehasing old ones like Disney st.sioux: akshuually futurist_wizard: That's not what happened tho alejandrozarzuelo: etc alejandrozarzuelo: jurassic park zoermena: Thanks! 👍 alejandrozarzuelo: also, i havent saud this because its the smallest benefit but tourism st.sioux: > thing was extinct > no longer extinct > because of us Not hard at all futurist_wizard: Normies understand fluffy doggy alejandrozarzuelo: filling niches we destroyed and improving the genetic health of species is VERY BIG NEWS tho its a bit of clickbait? sure but it is very important news futurist_wizard: Normies don't understand it spicy.lemonade: Usually 30 mins st.sioux: but its something the normies understand zoermena: At what time should we expect a release? anathemaofmankind: I don't think Sam has gone back on his word though. Delay maybe. But not outright cancelling stuff that he promised. Could be wrong futurist_wizard: I understand the use cases for this technology and i suppose its something but the importance of this is much less the news cycle would indicate hikukomoru: You never know hikukomoru: So hikukomoru: But you know how he is anathemaofmankind: He did hikukomoru: He promised us didn't he himekokatagiri: like waaaah himekokatagiri: but that resonates with me himekokatagiri: I want something meaner himekokatagiri: Miku is too friendly anathemaofmankind: I hope it's porn A NSFW filter Imagine alejandrozarzuelo: we need to prevent extinction as much as possible, but when the damage is done we need tools to undo it not with species that have been gone for thousands of years like this, which is pretty useless but with species recently extincted also this is the same technology used to infuse genetic diversity in a species for example, cheetahs have very little genetic diversity and suffer a lot from thos, if we can artificially add genetic diversity, we can make so that their species becomes much healthier spicy.lemonade: It’s def avatars
gamerbath: and just 30c per request? how are they earning money on this gamerbath: I thought it wasn't released to API yet gamerbath: wait really???? anathemaofmankind: anathemaofmankind: Settings forallhumanity: https://www.404media.co/this-college-protester-isnt-real-its-an-ai-powered-undercover-bot-for-cops/ gamerbath: how do i use o3 in cursor? I don't think I can :( ldj: <:WICKED:799336727679598673> ldj: And GPT-5 will be even better gamerbath: because you made 30 gmail accounts anathemaofmankind: Why does it feel like my balls hurt for some reason anathemaofmankind: Just make 30 gmail accounts spicy.lemonade: i herd pro users get more uses on gemini website spicy.lemonade: on studio spicy.lemonade: i only get like 1 use per 5 hours metaldragon01: It's in studio spicy.lemonade: fucking veo 2 spicy.lemonade: i still dont have trojan09205: Pretty sick tbh trojan09205: I just got a pair of meta raybans st.sioux: you like bots dont you make it do an automated reddit bot creator st.sioux: system architecture trent_k: It's not that I have nothing to apply it to, I'm just not sure what to apply it to where the problem is difficult enough that it would really shine trent_k: At this point I kinda feel like the model is outpacing me trent_k: Idk what to even use it for trent_k: O3 is wild callmepyro: It seems like you better understand my point now. Happy to chat on DMs if you want so we don't spam this chat. I have office hours in 13 minutes I can block out for you as well. callmepyro: Nor is it what you claimed! callmepyro: Thankfully that's not the problem I asked the model 🙂 callmepyro: Sure, that's an example of where the model fails to handle the image input correctly. I agree with you there anathemaofmankind: anathemaofmankind: Do you see this thing I wrote callmepyro: This is what I'm focusing on. callmepyro: Yes 🙂 "And how is the information presented...? Visually. So then it's a visual problem...like?" anathemaofmankind: Can you read? callmepyro: Right, and your claim that is any reasoning task, presented as an image, that the model gets wrong, is because of a visual issue not a reasoning one? anathemaofmankind: How are you not getting this dude anathemaofmankind: It requires both visual capability and reasoning. If one doesn't work as intended, then the result will be wrong callmepyro: E.g. "it is impossible to present a reasoning task to a model in an image format" - or "reasoning can only be done through text"? callmepyro: Ah, so your claim is that any reasoning task presented visually is actually a visual problem and not a reasoning one?
spicy.lemonade: alejandrozarzuelo: i hope we are all in the ASI hivemind alejandrozarzuelo: do you? I dont connorsphone.: I just hope politics still exists at that point alejandrozarzuelo: and noone can hope to know what politics will be like then alejandrozarzuelo: but as I said, ASI will come basically tomorrow in geopolitical terms which are measured in decades alejandrozarzuelo: the mood in the markets seems to be "nothing personal, just business" approach spicy.lemonade: maintcrew: the soviets fell and the us has a number that seems fake in debt maintcrew: u cant have one half of the world depends on country X and the other on country Y because at some point either X or Y get destroyed under the weight maintcrew: i think thats gonna be more stable tbh alejandrozarzuelo: we are moving towards a transactional great power situation geopolitically but ASI should change that, so idk maintcrew: honestly believe no war will happen bc its gonna hurt the economy too much maintcrew: a cold war of raw output maintcrew: u know i still think this is basically what is converging to happen but instead of borders its just gonna be technological and manufacturing capabilities alejandrozarzuelo: it was the first time in history when borders basically didnt change and it was because any move would give a millimetre of power to the other side and WE CANT HAVE THAT alejandrozarzuelo: yeah maintcrew: thats literally every war and thing happening in that period summarized maintcrew: cold war was so funny alejandrozarzuelo: (because india was a soviet ally) alejandrozarzuelo: but the US said no alejandrozarzuelo: (also because India was a soviet ally) maintcrew: tangential but whoever thought of the veto power was wise af alejandrozarzuelo: the USSR pushed the UN to give the british seat to India on the basis that they only got the seat because of how populated india was alejandrozarzuelo: but they stayed because changing who was in the UNSC would be bound for dispute maintcrew: ok understandable alejandrozarzuelo: no, not in 1945, yes in 1960 maintcrew: a mirage of control no? maintcrew: yea but it was a facade alejandrozarzuelo: and france 15% alejandrozarzuelo: the UK still held 30% of the global population alejandrozarzuelo: old members did make sens maintcrew: current members make no sense maintcrew: honestly just ussr and the us wouldve made more sense alejandrozarzuelo: and then china was included after the defeat of Japan alejandrozarzuelo: long live la france alejandrozarzuelo: then the soviet union went like: include france or i am leaving (france was an anti US capitalist country) spicy.lemonade: Just for engagement bait spicy.lemonade: He deletes all his predictions 3 hours later spicy.lemonade: He’s gonna delete this
metaldragon01: That honestly could be another reason openai is going opensource. metaldragon01: Openai and BMW trusted him enough to partner and he was bold enough to drop Openai zonchao: yep metaldragon01: He's always been a little far on the hype scale for me and not very good at it but results are results zonchao: https://x.com/adcock_brett/status/1891298790776160513? zonchao: the drama started because they overhyped their partnership and involvement with bmw <:LOL:1187460826572005436> but yea could be a real company, I'm not convinced otherwise yet metaldragon01: They have a real product with real partnerships and results hikukomoru: The vibes are because of his surname metaldragon01: Figure will be more than fine even if the ceo is a little hype bro ldj: zonchao: <:bruhSit:1352251568539304040> bob082957: If he makes ability to learn then he won 🥇 and this schuld come this or beginning next year zonchao: but adcock gives bad vibes zonchao: need more evidence zonchao: yea I'm iffy on them, won't jump on this bandwagon bob082957: Why they questioning the figure ? They not lying dude. zonchao: pivot to browser trojan09205: I find it funny/kinda weird how normies just use the first names of all these ceos and players in the AI sphere ailoveyoom: Pplx downfall when 😈 zonchao: yea ive been following him for years he is pretty no BS drewsni: I don’t like that guy at all but he did make an early call on Trevor (which I agreed with) so I trust him here otub: https://tenor.com/view/no-sonny-i-robot-gif-23790834 zonchao: https://x.com/WholeMarsBlog/status/1916202907869057521 zonchao: is it over for figure? aero447: 🤷 aero447: A noble effort that ASI will render in vain. aero447: Bro is trying to find the Atlantis of porn. aero447: 🍌 aero447: 🦾 ailoveyoom: I keep trying to find the 'perfect' video and spend less time watching ailoveyoom: Ig in my case it's more like, porn doomscrolling ailoveyoom: I keep telling myself that so I don't fall off the deep end and get addicted 😇 aero447: No. ailoveyoom: Depends on the person aero447: Not a drug. aero447: 😐 ailoveyoom: Except porn, my only vice 😩 ailoveyoom: Sorry I don't do drugs 😎 _cloudost: forget about GPT-5.... hey1_1hey: We have a lot of things, we can even communicate (yes mushroom can do that)
spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: Let’s see if it continues spicy.lemonade: ailoveyoom: Visual reasoning tho 🥺 spicy.lemonade: Needs reasoning spicy.lemonade: It’s 4o spicy.lemonade: Naturally spicy.lemonade: Yes but doesn’t get it st.sioux: and its unlimited so idc ailoveyoom: Has anyone tried giving it a visual ARC-AGI problem 😈 st.sioux: if you have test prompts u can tell me im not using it rn spicy.lemonade: Let’s see ailoveyoom: It's joever spacetimetsunami: we need it embodied.... .histic: it can play tic tac toe .wolfnacht: i have an experiment, we take some reference posts from r/mildlyinteresting and create some posts like that with new gpt gen, and post it there and lets see how many would get fooled.. spacetimetsunami: lol yea i suppose. wonder if its "learning" about 3d tho spicy.lemonade: Needs reasoning spicy.lemonade: Had errors spicy.lemonade: ailoveyoom: Try playing a chess game with new 4o lol spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634> spicy.lemonade: It’s a 2d world model spacetimetsunami: the better way to word this is that good vid and image gen is proof that it is getting a better world model spacetimetsunami: so it does give credence to coherence of its environment .wolfnacht: from now on, nothing will feel real anymore...and it'll intensify from here. spicy.lemonade: No clue spicy.lemonade: spacetimetsunami: I mean as AI gets better with image and vid its just getting a better world model ailoveyoom: You don't think this update can potentially make it better at visual problems? st.sioux: he has that e/acc thingy too, zon chao and danserk have it too and they always say the wildest shit as well .wolfnacht: dat's why competition is important st.sioux: lol st.sioux: what did u expect from x spicy.lemonade: Christ spicy.lemonade: Mfs are mad about anything spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: I have high hopes spicy.lemonade: But openAI really delivered spicy.lemonade: Depends on what gpt 5 is
inferno0879: been a while inferno0879: ive been an alcoholic 17-22 yrs zoermena: Yeah it was something like that sieventer: What about... benzos? You don't have the toxicity of alcohol and you get a better result _cloudost: hey1_1hey: Aperntly so. Maybe you are just a heavy alcoholic because alcohol contains a lot of callcories hikukomoru: I come from a long line of alcoholics futurist_wizard: Both times tasted like shit inferno0879: so i guess you either avoid it or have high risk of addiction? hikukomoru: Apparently I deal with my ARFID much better than you since I weigh more despite being much shorter futurist_wizard: Drank alcohol twice in my life inferno0879: alright ai says it just leads to more abuse hey1_1hey: You have ARFID to so you cant say much hikukomoru: Oh yeah I forgot about that hey1_1hey: Notabbly SSRIs hey1_1hey: Ironically enough alcohol makes a lot of medication stop working hikukomoru: What a little bitch hikukomoru: For me it's the best medication zoermena: I do admit even though I never do any substances I’m always anxious so I’m taking Ls left and right hey1_1hey: Straight up alcoholic hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/drinking-booze-boozehound-wasted-alcohol-gif-23077846 hikukomoru: So I always drink before stressful stuff hey1_1hey: If I want to drink I will litterly have to hype my self up then hold my nose so I cant breath through it (gets rid of a lot of your taste buds so I cant taste it) then sip it and swallow hikukomoru: Alcohol helps with anxiety for me hikukomoru: Damn It's the opposite for me I love all of it hey1_1hey: It all gives me the heebie jeebies hey1_1hey: The smell, taste, look etc etc zoermena: It’s more of like the scientific basis than someone complaining to be honest hey1_1hey: Very hey1_1hey: After like 6 weeks of use I litterly couldn't concentrate on a task for more than 5 seconds hikukomoru: How sensitive are you to alcohol hikukomoru: Wdym taste like shit hey1_1hey: I vowed never to touch short form content again because of my ADD inferno0879: never heard anyone complain about adhd when fucking wasted zoermena: Alcohol is just worse with ADHD on top or so I’ve heard I never touch it hey1_1hey: After a few drinks it stops tasting like shit and then you just keep on drinking hey1_1hey: Drinking is fine, I can see how people become alcoholics though so I drink only on a special occassation 💀 hey1_1hey: Used to be really chilled out and became really good at games when I was high but now I just have to lie in bed and trying to convince myself that no the weed was not spiked with fent and I am going to be fine hikukomoru: Instead I just drink now hey1_1hey: I used to be fine with it which is weird
hikukomoru: I guess it just sounds nicer to say u're cis than saying your normal drewsni: Everyone here needs to hit the gym .histic: ... wellmeaningalien: wellmeaningalien: lol damn my wifi gave out hikukomoru: Idk 🤷‍♂️ zoermena: I feel like I look alright but I can improve a lot if I commit oooooooooog: what's the point of saying normal if almost everyone is normal hey1_1hey: Thats what all racist say hey1_1hey: Sure sure hikukomoru: Not trying to be racist or anything .histic: hey1_1hey: Thats racist yanno hikukomoru: I mean mushroom people do look weird though hey1_1hey: Flip flop really, generally I am pretty good though hey1_1hey: I go from thinking I look like the perfect specimen to thinking I look weird oooooooooog: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution _cloudost: hikukomoru: Yeah you're not wrong Some people don't like when you say that though lol _3sphere: I look ok I guess? sarik0497: Aw 😦 I’d have been mindblown then hey1_1hey: Glad we cleared that up hey1_1hey: Cis hey1_1hey: You calling me russian ay? _wwwwww: what is normal then? hikukomoru: He's the same height as the average portuguese woman 💔 wellmeaningalien: russian people really like to generate anime girls in bikinis hey1_1hey: Therefore not nomral hey1_1hey: Trans people are a minority of a minority drewsni: Yeah he’s not lol hey1_1hey: I mean hes not wrong wellmeaningalien: st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/mark-wahlberg-smh-shake-head-no-nope-gif-17582268 _wwwwww: c'mon rewire the fabric of reality itself zoermena: I just keep messing up hey1_1hey: That bitch is not 218pc wellmeaningalien: hey1_1hey: I used to then I was like "Nah yanno, I am alright yanno. I know a lot worse people" hikukomoru: cis = not trans oooooooooog: alcient history
himekokatagiri: chatgpt made me appreciate her himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/resident-evil-4-remake-re4-remake-re4-ashley-smile-gif-1632424754301045586 drewsni: All future LLMs will thank oai as scripts will use 1/3rd the tokens coming from 2.5 to o3/o4-mini professorheaven: You think we’ll get a sneak peek of full o4 while mini drops? Kinda like what they did with o3 mini hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/duke-dennis-duke-dennis-hell-you-gif-5178780600089613297 .histic: but if it is roughly 2.5 level, then that's disappointing. .histic: wait, shouldn't o4 be ahead of o3, though? i'm not talking about the mini versions of these models. metaldragon01: If we see a repeat of the o1 to o3 jump. Big if metaldragon01: I'm thinking roughly 2.5 level or a tad weaker with full o3 being slightly ahead. .histic: <@312370916820779040> have any benchmark predictions for o4-high? not the mini one, zoermena: Im kidding of course but I think he got the wrong server zoermena: What the fuck himekokatagiri: what will_iron: Nose, yo sigo esperando reembolso de 500 mil USDT metaldragon01: Ehh it's more just giving them access to a remote body with the same access a physical employee would have okbut: Giving an offshore worker view access to my laundry/credit cards okbut: They could even be done now, maybe there's a privacy concern metaldragon01: At least early on for sure as well as new "remote" work metaldragon01: It's the best signal of how fast adoption is happening atm abundantliving_: this is just openrouter, so total guestimate would be some 20 Trillion tokens of inference across different service providers , like AI companies and HF , Groq etc abundantliving_: yes , its beautiful 😌 abundantliving_: it was already happening abundantliving_: https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2024-10-15/tesla-optimus-bots-were-remotely-operated-at-cybercab-event destrucules: The inference is the training run destrucules: 2 months of training, 20+ trillion tokens, you can just... Always be training destrucules: Beautiful destrucules: Look at all that data destrucules: Continual 👏 learning 👏 okbut: This is the direction I predict for household humanoids too okbut: https://www.businessinsider.com/amazons-just-walk-out-actually-1-000-people-in-india-2024-4 abundantliving_: abundantliving_: Openrouter generating 2 Trillion tokens per week abundantliving_: abundantliving_: https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/10/fintech-founder-charged-with-fraud-after-ai-shopping-app-found-to-be-powered-by-humans-in-the-philippines/ abundantliving_: there is a similar one _cloudost: Don't remember the name, but I've seen them get exposed wellmeaningalien: bro just saying things wellmeaningalien: proof? _cloudost: I've seen a "tech' company website back in 2023, they claimed their AI generates 3D models fast when in reality there was no AI involved, the company used desperate 3D artists for each request, ( the artists had to make the model in less than 10 minutes and quickly send it to the customer ) wellmeaningalien: bro throwing words around
ldj: But you didn't know that until after the fact... aero447: o3 *is* the scaled o1. aero447: That's *literally* what they did with o3. aero447: ... ldj: because by that same logic you could easily say the same for O1... "why not scale O1 by 10X more if they could"? aero447: 🤔 aero447: Well I'm assuming at least it was somewhat expensive because why not scale o3 higher than that if it wasn't? ldj: If you assumed that O1 preview is 10p cost in this analogy, then yes that would make sense, but you have no evidence as to why it's 10p in this analogy instead of 100p or 1p or 0.1p etc aero447: 🤣 aero447: This basic concept of numbers getting bigger evades 69iq. aero447: I buy x item for 10p I can afford to buy an item 100x more expensive at £10. I can afford to buy an item 10x more expensive at £100. I cannot reasonably afford another 10x. ldj: But O1 did quite literally use 100X more compute than O1-preview... aero447: Yes but no each OOM makes it less likely. ldj: It's called iterative deployment for a reason ldj: You could have said that for O1 as well... they had an even smaller compute scale version of O1 called O1-preview. "right now they have this O1-preview model, and O1 might be 100X more compute, but I doubt they have the compute to do a training run that is 1,000X or more, because otherwise they'd just do that for the model called O1" hikukomoru: gaslight gatekeep girlboss futurist_wizard: I've literally never posted that image before aero447: So that it's more than a scaled version. hikukomoru: I swear you've posted this cat before aero447: o4 has been stated to be qualitatively different too from o3. aero447: I doubt they have the additional compute to scale o3 to o4 that easily otherwise... they could have simply done that with o3 itself. himekokatagiri: use better materials futurist_wizard: ldj: yea, I just don't see how that has anything to do with how close O3 is to their compute limits. zonchao: wasnt 4.5 a 500m run aero447: As you've already stated. aero447: I have none except for that 4.5 was not a compute increase on par with 3 - 4. hikukomoru: I'm gonna have ASI make one for me ldj: And what's your evidence that it was hit with O3? aero447: It was a test a pit stop. aero447: I'm saying again their total compute budget wasn't hit with o1. aero447: No it wouldn't. zonchao: when do you think stargate-1 will be online? himekokatagiri: and the owner of the topiechan factory is weird himekokatagiri: they're expensive zonchao: <:shockedd:1080470202564739092> hikukomoru: Cute I want one of these zonchao: really? trojan09205: i mean its kind of that way for everyone cause we are all different inside and out. internet just amplifies that intensely zonchao: xAI went from 0 to like 100k in 4 months, openai could do that but 10x with their resources
anathemaofmankind: I did this also trent_k: i think the "online only" part really drives it home spicy.lemonade: i guess im a gay they them minority spicy.lemonade: yeah sau that spicy.lemonade: honestly spicy.lemonade: that could work maintcrew: answer from experience holy shit maintcrew: 💀 spicy.lemonade: 💀 trent_k: excellent answer hikukomoru: "my bf spicy invited me" darkstar0818: because they know most troublemakers are lazy as fuck, so prove them wrong. spicy.lemonade: discord art serrvers maintcrew: you cant honestly say that when youre literally in the process of joining to troll spicy.lemonade: no just say found online maintcrew: go safe route and say reddit spicy.lemonade: they werent this picky spicy.lemonade: theyre trying to stop guys like us spicy.lemonade: ^ trent_k: like im trying to get a job or something spicy.lemonade: AI trent_k: why do they all want u to do a mf application trent_k: why are these art servers all so picky trent_k: also trent_k: how do i answer where i heard about the server from spicy.lemonade: this server is so funny trent_k: thanks maintcrew: Temple spicy.lemonade: Temple trent_k: i dont see it trent_k: wtf is the password spicy.lemonade: 😭 spicy.lemonade: youre cooked buddy hikukomoru: Fursona Like those dudes that wear dog and wolf suits memlaswaif: valid rule imo maintcrew: i didnt know they had to manually approve me so i wrote shoggoth trent_k: "im going to kill myself" > Notice: You have just received a warning for violating rule 11. spicy.lemonade: lol trent_k: the rules are so fuckin funny memlaswaif: <:pepeyikes:603639472114106420>
trojan09205: Are people in spain into conspiracies- cause if this happened in FL people would be livid lol _3sphere: what would cause it to flicker like that _3sphere: Is this some kind of rolling blackout but the blackout time is 99.99% of the time? trojan09205: Big W for local llamas _3sphere: huh? _3sphere: > "There's zero electricity," she says, adding that there have been surges - meaning power has come back on - but only for a few seconds each time, nothing permanent. _3sphere: backup solar power for this eventuality hey1_1hey: That adds up. They prob dont even know the internet has gone out because they have all the material downloaded locally _3sphere: they'll be fine _3sphere: Komoru is still in their now-absolutely-dark cave and gooning to the sensory deprivation visions hey1_1hey: Oh thats good to know. Can't say the same for Komoru though, its almost certainty just bad infrastructure though. Who even wants to attack spain and portugul...? _3sphere: probably in an area where at least the cell signal works? or outside the blackout altogether? _3sphere: Alejandro is right here hey1_1hey: Of course it does. Murphy's law really coming in clutch rn hey1_1hey: My boy Alejandro might be dead 💔 , same with Komoru actually _3sphere: including internet because it also runs off the grid _3sphere: Blackout in Spain and Portugal _3sphere: oops 😇 hey1_1hey: Was been going on? ailoveyoom: Simulation server maintenance ahh moment ailoveyoom: Spoopy ailoveyoom: Check social media, no one knows what's going on?? trojan09205: Yeah I guess. But this is pretty embarrassing _3sphere: Shit infrastructure is more fixable than a war _3sphere: Accident trojan09205: Would you rather it be the russians or an accident? alejandrozarzuelo: This is unprecedented its been over an hour and a half alejandrozarzuelo: Frfr ailoveyoom: Bananas .wolfnacht: Bananas trojan09205: Bananas .wolfnacht: .wolfnacht: i think it's time to take meds, no? brain4brain: Super-reasoning without CoT brain4brain: Using diffusion to train the latent space more effectively brain4brain: He revealed how to turn LLM from alchemy to chemistry brain4brain: The dream was to dream with the LSD Ilya gave me brain4brain: Bindu is fake, but r2 is real It was revealed to me in a dream .wolfnacht: wait R2! today ? fr ?, any source or u just saw the tweets of bindu reddy ? brain4brain: R2, Intellect-2, and qwen-3 all on the same day
anathemaofmankind: Also I just noticed his tweet has a grammatical error with "though" anathemaofmankind: Watch it be 5% better than o3 full high literallyvarane: Feel like he’d have just named o4 if they intended to do it tbh. It’s GPT-5 is probably the o4 level model. anathemaofmankind: When did he say they're not shipping o4? literallyvarane: Calling it o4 mini is super memes if they don’t even intend to ship o4 tho literallyvarane: I KNEW WE WOULD STILL GET O3 FUCK YALL metaldragon01: Exciting April ahead of us metaldragon01: Weeks/months metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/sama/status/1908167621624856998 futurist_wizard: It wouldn't have blundered like this metaldragon01: https://x.com/sama/status/1908167790336651720 futurist_wizard: Gpt 4.5 has based policies a1c4p0ne: https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-tariffs-chatgpt-2055203 spicy.lemonade: If anything he’d fire lecun spicy.lemonade: Zuckerberg is not a quitter spicy.lemonade: They wouldn’t lol .wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/zuckerberg-robot-zuckerberg-robot-gif-24762933 .wolfnacht: theaiguy69420_89814: tariff bariff retrerox: Yeah, it did it this way because i used your example _cloudost: So scammers don't use this model to sell AI art as human art _cloudost: Someone said these dots are added as a form of watermark _cloudost: It still has WAY too much of these unnecessary dots retrerox: Now the girl is a fuwwy retrerox: its probably trying to interpret some art style retrerox: I can see what you mean _cloudost: This is the original AI drawing generated by chatGPT, could you remove the noise _cloudost: Ig you're right retrerox: It just made the floor "very good" retrerox: i pasted your draw and just ask him to make him a dude _cloudost: Why isn't there noise, strange, everytime I generate an image those gray/black dots appear everywhere on the drawing retrerox: its noticable that is AI because the things are "too perfect" retrerox: I ask him to make it into a dude _cloudost: Made by human effort _cloudost: And this is a redrawing of it _cloudost: Feed it to chatgpt and this came out ( I added the text ) _cloudost: My drawing ( purely from my imagination ) clevermoniker: unless you can ask 4o itself or some other ai its probably hard to do clevermoniker: i see, very interesting _cloudost: Same tbh
st.sioux: i watch movies while i work lol hey1_1hey: I've tried before but I just vibed to it too hard. I gotta listen to pink noise so my brain has something to concentrate on joaoluz19: Don't like lofi either okbut: No timer can hold me down okbut: My problem is rooted in ADHD itself - I will rebel and do wtf I want hey1_1hey: People who listen to that lofi girl are insane hey1_1hey: I struggled with using it for ages. I use the vivaldi browser because you can setup these things called "workspaces" there. Its where you can block out sections for differnt types of things like liesure, gaming, work etc etc. Mine is maths and I have this extension that blocks me from going on any other website apart from the yotuube pink noise, khan acedmy and chatgpt for explaing stuff. I then put my phone downstairs and and turn off one of my monitors so I dont get distracted. Its a whole process to actually get working and not getting distracted but its what I gotta do. wellmeaningalien: Brown note makes uu shit okbut: > The "brown note" is a hypothetical infrasonic frequency (around 5-9 Hz) that is believed to cause fecal incontinence by resonating with the human bowel, but it's an urban myth with no scientific basi ailoveyoom: White note (a frequency that can make you suddenly want to ejaculate) _3sphere: Might have been Brownian noise zoermena: I hope this myth can help my poor digestion okbut: Idk if "brown noise" is a thing, but there is a famous myth about a "brown note" (a frequency that can make you suddenly want to poop) zoermena: I made a shortcut on my phone that immediately starts a pomodoro session it opens my music app and when the times over it starts an automatic break pausing music, then it asks me if I want to go for another session but for some reason it breaks on the last part joaoluz19: I personally can't concentrate with lyrics hey1_1hey: I don't mind green actually. joaoluz19: My friends who are much more intelligent than me listen to anything studying like rock, rap, pop okbut: >Sets timer >Doesn't actually work during the timer oops ailoveyoom: What other colors are there lol okbut: I got ADHD too, it's great in concept but I still struggle with the dedication to actually using it lmao hey1_1hey: Let me go nosey on over to green noise to give it a listen ailoveyoom: This one sounds like hell hey1_1hey: I think I missed something hey1_1hey: ADHD in a nutshell right there okbut: Brown noise for shittin' _3sphere: there's also "green noise" which is only mid-range frequencies and it kinda sounds like 1000 voices talking over each other hey1_1hey: I tried all the noises, brown noise is a close second but pink is what I landed on zoermena: Oh I see _3sphere: brown noise sounds like a waterfall, with more lower frequencies than high joaoluz19: It worked lol, gemini hey1_1hey: Oh wait yeah I forgot about that <:LOL:1187460826572005436>. I take these 200mg of caffine in a pill and I take lion mane tablets every day _3sphere: sounds like white noise but through shit headphones with no bass _3sphere: Different frequency intensities ailoveyoom: How is it different from white noise zoermena: No coffee no stimulants? Kudos to you. hey1_1hey: Yuh, its like white noise but better ailoveyoom: Pink noise?? okbut: Are there any convo instructions? Grok always gives me Latex embeds hey1_1hey: Helps that I actually enjoy doing maths hey1_1hey: I sit myself in my room, turn on pink noise, put on a pomodoro timer and just work. Pink noise has to be loud to block out my thinking though
hey1_1hey: I lose touch with reality for 2-3 mins at a time and I just think and I stop thinking when something happnes or my name is called but by that point we are on a completly different topic .wolfnacht: i can also imagine, people in front of me...but only when i'm really tired or dizzy, it was really worse during lockdown, i was in my room talking with my highschool friends as they were there, living in good memories. hikukomoru: I can't stop seeing things in my minds eye It's a constant stream of information hey1_1hey: How bruh destrucules: I been told y'all oooooooooog: 9th circle ✅ hikukomoru: If /pol/ is just porn then it sounds like it's improved hey1_1hey: I could image the soultion to all of lifes problems if I could imagine things (trust) oooooooooog: yeah once i thoguht i was a wizard for like an hour fractalcomputer: I sometimes cannot distinguish my imagination or memories from reality. oooooooooog: it does not haha .wolfnacht: it's literally porn now and neckbears humping the aryan dick theory. hey1_1hey: I promise its not hey1_1hey: If I conciously try and image something in my head but then if I let my mind wonder I forget I have eyes and just think. That sounds like schziophrenia oooooooooog: i cant visualize in my eye but i can in my brain, i don't really get eyeball visualization at all lol futurist_wizard: .wolfnacht: not being able to imagine anything = Aphantasia hikukomoru: Keep /pol/ bullshit in /pol/ pls hikukomoru: Lmao npc hey1_1hey: I have tried many a time hey1_1hey: No hikukomoru: Can you visualize an apple in your mind's eye .wolfnacht: my /pol/tard persona is leaking fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/dune-mentat-thufir-thinking-thufir-hawat-gif-24418611 hey1_1hey: Seems cool to do it tho hey1_1hey: No wonder you are called shizo. I straight up cant imagine things in my head oooooooooog: is that when you're a mentat from hit book dune .wolfnacht: i don't have inner monologues, i visualize myself literally being there....experiencing every cringe, awkward and sad moments of my life again and again. That's the curse of Hyperphantasia. sarik0497: Bruh fractalcomputer: Here's a new word for you; mentation. hey1_1hey: I am 90% sure there were 2 people on coke in my class today tho joaoluz19: I feel offended st.sioux: lol st.sioux: first time ive ever read "cogitation" hey1_1hey: I dont look like a mix of a coke and crack head thnak you very much fractalcomputer: No, but it certainly could influence how certain people here (and elsewhere) view the importance of linguiformity in cogitation. .wolfnacht: _3sphere: if there's a close connection between LLMs and brains, nonverbal thoughts are latent vectors oooooooooog: i'm aware, but nobody can stop thinking. fractalcomputer: I would hate to hear that unbearable narcissist.
hey1_1hey: NOOOOOO hey1_1hey: I think to seal the deal you could make a long rant about how you three were all artists whos jobs got taken by AI and thats it horrible trent_k: im so old bro in a couple months ill have a second kid and in a couple more months ill be 30 spicy.lemonade: 💀 hikukomoru: It's not just Alejandro Trent has 🥀 too 💔 trent_k: long ass rant about how polish discrimination is real hey1_1hey: Love you to man spicy.lemonade: this is insane trent_k: HAHAHA hikukomoru: I don't like you hey1_1hey: I want milfs in my life spicy.lemonade: TRANSRACIAL trent_k: because poles were historically discriminated against hey1_1hey: Why? trent_k: you're polish but you identify with the black community hikukomoru: No spicy.lemonade: NOOOOOOOOOO hey1_1hey: But not for me ? trent_k: we can save this spicy.lemonade: im a minority trent_k: omg trent_k: no trent_k: HAHAHA spicy.lemonade: the frog image hey1_1hey: The 🥀 fits so well here spicy.lemonade: remember spicy.lemonade: im black hikukomoru: It's fine when i do it spicy.lemonade: NO trent_k: lmfao spicy is the most grizzled looking 18 year old ever hikukomoru: Trent ur such a creepy old man 🥀 hey1_1hey: Suit yourself hey1_1hey: Someone doesn't like MILFs it seems spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634> spicy.lemonade: its legal hikukomoru: Age difference 😧 spicy.lemonade: 29, 18, 21 spicy.lemonade: poly gay theythem minority interacial couple anathemaofmankind: 💀 spicy.lemonade: 29 18 21
.histic: yeah, i even have veo 2 on my alternative gmail lol zoermena: Oh shit you have it too? futurist_wizard: Which Europe doesn't have access to futurist_wizard: And veo2 .histic: reminds you of somewhere? futurist_wizard: They are talking about Sam altman vague postin alejandrozarzuelo: What r u talking about .histic: https://x.com/sama/status/1910843661123809627 fuhulootogan: Amen zoermena: The cult is growing fuhulootogan: Yes fuhulootogan: Normally you'd see AI fuck up at tiny details so this is a notch up zoermena: You are a new character to singularity server? zoermena: Good model fuhulootogan: impressivo fuhulootogan: AI adding subtle details zoermena: You can see the trees getting more sun as the video goes on so fuhulootogan: shouldn't the sky change color as well if it's a time-lapse? fuhulootogan: pretty sure the IQ test is the best measurement of intelligence we have and yet it's inherently flawed wellmeaningalien: who can judge whats better or smarter thats my point zoermena: This is the original fuhulootogan: thats like narrow AI shit fuhulootogan: or better? fuhulootogan: smarter? zoermena: Since it’s image to image zoermena: It used to be worse and they are supposed to be clouds but yes zoermena: Assume a Timelapse fuhulootogan: aaaaa fuhulootogan: very fast clouds futurist_wizard: Holy shit why so much smoke in the forest fuhulootogan: same goes for pretty much anything zoermena: fuhulootogan: they don't give up art knowing they'll probably never be a leonardo da vinci zoermena: So negative prompts work really freaking well in veo 2, this one has less cloud cum fuhulootogan: lotta artists in the world fuhulootogan: so yeah we might come off as pathetic when compared to AGI wellmeaningalien: an ant is 100x smarter than a human at forming awesome ass circles fuhulootogan: that is their function futurist_wizard: We've peaked. In human intelligence. We need more intelligence to make. Significant improvements in technology and science fuhulootogan: they're quite literally built to be superior than humans
st.sioux: did u fall for it czdct: that's 100% bait czdct: Literally anything on the internet: *exists* That one person: *MUUUHH NAZZIIII REFEREEENCEEEEE* drewsni: and i did report the guy that said kill this man drewsni: also i am petty drewsni: im now going to make it my mission to automate nascar paint scheme creation and destroy those jobs .histic: yeah, that's the weird discrepancy i notice. they're fine with machines generating text, but not with machines creating art. they'd probably be okay with AI automating other parts of life too, but when it comes to art, they get all emotional lmao. drewsni: its so confusing drewsni: _cloudost: They all copy each other, if one day one of themjumps off a building and dies they all will jump off a building, they don't have an independent mind. drewsni: especially because the joke was that he didnt win drewsni: actually tho like goddamn st.sioux: lol st.sioux: crazy how they jumped straight to murder drewsni: they use a genai bot that they all love and talk to like its a person drewsni: you wanna know the most ironic part? drewsni: like holy fuck lol .histic: they're like animals hikukomoru: No I was just curious st.sioux: damn gamerbath: it's correct. that's impressive drewsni: wait are you in the nascar server? lol drewsni: hikukomoru: I know you posted AI but which image drewsni: never ran into this kinda thing drewsni: holy fuck drewsni: drewsni: speaking of that .histic: .histic: fuck i got rate limited .histic: holy shit.. it's blazing fast for me rn .histic: a GPU burp. .histic: wtf, 4o generated an image in like 5 seconds for me lol _cloudost: No one will care if the Chinese version violates Copyright laws _cloudost: I hope so maintcrew: no its 3 gens frew now i think christiskingrapturenxtmonth: I think it's just really popular. Once the Chinese version comes out it's over christiskingrapturenxtmonth: but it's paid only? _cloudost: AI haters are using it in masses so we can't use it, they don't have a life joaoluz19: The goths are worth the wait
hey1_1hey: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> bob082957: What’s that ? Second ex NSA employee? bob082957: https://vxtwitter.com/BoltzmannBooty/status/1903636136561357201#m spicy.lemonade: no wellmeaningalien: ok but does all the hype mean anything brain4brain: Very cool brain4brain: The entire video is like a lobotomy precariousworlds.: interesting way to introduce your product looks ripped from an analogue horror youtube series brain4brain: https://x.com/newsystems_/status/1903972537131761854?s=61 precariousworlds.: ChatGPT just feels good to use most of the time, everything is built well precariousworlds.: Its the small things that build to a great product, it's why the iPhone is so successful precariousworlds.: Text generates in a much smoother way now that looks less jarring, so you can follow the generation easily without it rapidly spewing paragraphs at mach 2 precariousworlds.: Biggest reason why ChatGPT is still goated is the regular quality of life updates spicy.lemonade: lol idek alejandrozarzuelo: why only US and canadian citizens spicy.lemonade: how so alejandrozarzuelo: this is xenophobia with extra steps spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: okbut: Does anyone know a good tool or GPT for converting articles into a format that can be pasted into ElevenLabs for a natural reading of it? For example, paste in a document of a publication, and it transforms the headers into good transitions, removes citations/references, etc. If not I'll just make a CGPT chat for it but I wanna ask before trying precariousworlds.: but it is bullshit lmao "alright bro we gotta get at least $10000" ahahahaha precariousworlds.: Im all for self-optimization but you can go way too far with it and that video is the perfect example Assuming he isn't bullshitting he wastes like 6 hours every day and is probably exhausted All you need is 15 mins/day meditation, exercise routine, basic self care, consistent sleep schedule. everything else is a giant distraction shirethedreamer: lmao i just saw that influencer video yesterday spicy.lemonade: Ready to start my day spicy.lemonade: .wolfnacht: should i send all the smut data ? aero447: Claude better TBH. aero447: 🫵 aero447: https://2hourlearning.com/ abundantliving_: spacetimetsunami: If not true, I will cut off my hand. _cloudost: big if true drewsni: That’s all drewsni: He’s an international trust fund kid .wolfnacht: google's gonna be deff be giving gemini 2.0 pro-think spicy.lemonade: big=openAI abundantliving_: spicy.lemonade: he just bought alot of mac minis spicy.lemonade: that doesnt mean anything christiskingrapturenxtmonth: no not larp
wellmeaningalien: long term = cheaper and faster reasoning model hikukomoru: But I guess in Portugal the only people who make kebabs are indians hikukomoru: Isn't Kebab turkish hey1_1hey: I could litterly find pennies off the ground and still pay for deepseek bruh wellmeaningalien: indians??? its turkish wellmeaningalien: the way they engineered the fuck out of these benchmarks tho to make llama 4 look good meanwhile maverick is slightly below deepseek v3 in most areas retrerox: THey are like tacos but made by Indians hey1_1hey: Odd thing to wish for but whatever floats your boat wellmeaningalien: i mean its still fine ig because its half the price of deepseek v3 for similar performance hikukomoru: I've never had kebab hey1_1hey: Not that I would ever do that because I am straight hetorosexual gender conforming man hey1_1hey: I fit the bill then since I shaved retrerox: Cant wait for AI generate the perfect recipe for Kebabs hey1_1hey: Preach futurist_wizard: Only men on their knees should be hairless twinks hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/mark-zuckerberg-solunary-pretty-gif-25906824 hey1_1hey: I cant tell if he looks 40, is older than 40 or is younger hey1_1hey: 40 hey1_1hey: damn futurist_wizard: Y futurist_wizard: Ugl hey1_1hey: Let me go check hey1_1hey: He is not that old bruh hikukomoru: I let my bias towards fellow extraterrestrials show futurist_wizard: I hate seeing old nerds on their knees with their tongues out hikukomoru: Everyone was right to make fun of me for expecting something decent out of Meta hey1_1hey: I told you it wouldnt be big hikukomoru: It's ass wellmeaningalien: llama 4 is a family of LLMs hey1_1hey: It sucks retrerox: Any Tltr of about what is Llama 4? hikukomoru: He should drop from the race It's over wellmeaningalien: its not really very competitive hey1_1hey: Lets not fuck joe wellmeaningalien: nah idk their model is fine but it's really not all that great compared to other models futurist_wizard: wellmeaningalien: ✅ zonchao: is it over for meta?? futurist_wizard: Name and pfp are from two unrelated things hey1_1hey: NGMI to LEV