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oooooooooog: random chance type shih, spawn dat boltzman brain like crazy 🧠 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boltzmann_brain spacetimetsunami: If you no longer occupy a brain the experience of a thing won’t be hellish, as those are human concepts st.sioux: lol st.sioux: spawn back as a fly fractalcomputer: I assure you, I am a rather inhumane thinker. spacetimetsunami: And wdym spawn back in spacetimetsunami: Why would you think this oooooooooog: bolzman brain type shih spacetimetsunami: Yeah, me too, but to diverge you only think that because you’re thinking from a human perspective oooooooooog: i think u spawn back in later "probably" fractalcomputer: That would be my personal hell. spacetimetsunami: Like, experiencing how it feels to be the universe spacetimetsunami: Okay, do you believe in any otherwise incomprehensible mode of experience after human death fractalcomputer: For your considerations, I do not believe in any kind of fantastical afterlife or terrible judgment. But that is a boring answer and neither terribly profound nor illuminating. fractalcomputer: The answer to many a question is found by simply finding the right perspective. spacetimetsunami: <@749514473303179358> what do you think happens when you die spacetimetsunami: Yeah idk why that point was made fractalcomputer: Stop doing necromancy and get back to actual philosophy. spacetimetsunami: I am hinging what I think on the probability that there isn’t spacetimetsunami: I get that spacetimetsunami: Even if there was an afterlife we’d have no way to know spacetimetsunami: And I get what you’re saying spacetimetsunami: Sure oooooooooog: the reason it can't be proven is that the dead can't speak lol spacetimetsunami: Bad argument. If when you die you cease to exist and you no longer experience, then reality is real. fractalcomputer: More so because we have no way to align all these definitions on the same epistemological grounds. oooooooooog: altered states of consciousness could just as well be the mind's own doing, this useless. spacetimetsunami: I know the hole in what I replied to is that I don’t have proof that when I die I cease to exist st.sioux: because no one can agree on a definition? fractalcomputer: Simply throwing around definitions will not help us get to the bottom of this case. spacetimetsunami: I don’t want to give a philosophical proof for why reality is “real” but here I kinda did it fractalcomputer: Your definition of reality is fundamentally flawed since you have no way to demonstrate that whatever you define it to be is true. fractalcomputer: It is not evasion by semantics and do not accuse me of sophistry. spacetimetsunami: Clever exit strategy spacetimetsunami: Evasion via semantics fractalcomputer: And I can certainly declare that a unicorn is a unicorn mammalian; but that definition certainly does not elucidate our comprehension of that thing. spacetimetsunami: There is a reality and we have nothing to talk about spacetimetsunami: I have defined it multiple times fractalcomputer: Then there is no reality and we have nothing to talk about. spacetimetsunami: I have defined it multiple times
hey1_1hey: No no thats defintly a girl# retrerox: Its 2025 futurist_wizard: Something tells me it is not female hikukomoru: Send Elisa my way 🫦 hey1_1hey: She defo wants you hikukomoru: Who's that baddie hey1_1hey: Bruh hey1_1hey: Shhhhh retrerox: ? futurist_wizard: Triggering my dyslexia futurist_wizard: Bro hikukomoru: "perso nisd" 🥀 hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/man-praying-black-man-praying-black-man-praying-and-crying-man-praying-and-crying-gif-23376408540985609 a1c4p0ne: It’s AGI when it can make you money hey1_1hey: Anyone want to fill me in on who this Wenda perso nisd hey1_1hey: I was reading the names and I realised I only knew like 3 of them st.sioux: eeek ldj: Wenda 😲 futurist_wizard: https://youtu.be/UjTv8ivh7mY?si=MGuBEqFj2WZWZEhq Real cat behaviours hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/khajit-elder-scrolls-skyrim-gif-13407883883396268014 futurist_wizard: Sam altman is hype beast popsiclejohnithan: I wonder when we will get TES 6 smh. futurist_wizard: Literally a1c4p0ne: Will 2.5 be dethroned after today zoermena: abundantliving_: https://tenor.com/view/baby-crazy-baby-hyper-hyper-baby-when-the-molly-hits-gif-5676484 hikukomoru: My race is always Khajiit, the cat people abundantliving_: https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-sponge-bob-spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-meme-hyper-gif-16582929222326260639 st.sioux: i need agency for agi bro futurist_wizard: I only played oblivion when i was 8-9 or something and wanted to be lizard man abundantliving_: https://tenor.com/view/wild-stewie-family-guy-hype-hyper-gif-16632315 literallyvarane: I guess for me personally, I think that you can be AGI via only text output so being proto AGI via only text is possible. But clearly that’s not what these models view as valid return_to_monke1_33974: high return_to_monke1_33974: Full AGI pro max + hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/oblivion-gif-18732240 futurist_wizard: Im a fallout man hikukomoru: This is the Oblivion server now popsiclejohnithan: Oblivion remade in Skyrim. abundantliving_: this server is for o4 then hikukomoru: Oblivion remade in Skyrim
himekokatagiri: and the artifact was replaced by a cheap imitation himekokatagiri: then I was in the same inn but it like in the past? joaoluz19: With random people and with a ex himekokatagiri: so I asked her for an way out of town himekokatagiri: so I ran to the street and I saw Jodie foster there dressed like a uhhh, working lady hey1_1hey: Projecting much joaoluz19: Literally what they mean himekokatagiri: and I broke it himekokatagiri: and there was an artifact there himekokatagiri: there was one I was in some oriental inn hikukomoru: Wdym himekokatagiri: idk I don't keep track himekokatagiri: Uhhhhh a1c4p0ne: <@286319745777795092> Get into card counting and hit Vegas blackjack tables himekokatagiri: mushroom girl would infect me with her mushroom thingies and I'd be a slave to her hikukomoru: Tell me about your dreams himekokatagiri: idk mushroom girl would be scary hikukomoru: Sounds like the woke agenda got to you hey1_1hey: Trans cat in 2025. We really do need to make america great again himekokatagiri: I am the great himeko futurist_wizard: It was one time himekokatagiri: wooooh himekokatagiri: Can you analyze me komoru hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/trans-transgender-trans-pride-trans-flag-pride-flag-gif-27463942 joaoluz19: What sexual dreams are Komoru hey1_1hey: I am a women in my dreams... but I mean that obv has no corolation to real life what so ever joaoluz19: I would let you arrest me himekokatagiri: What does that mean hikukomoru: I am psychoanalyzing people futurist_wizard: Why that happened futurist_wizard: I literally am never someone else in my other dreams so i don't understand hey1_1hey: Holy moly get me in there right now futurist_wizard: For some reason i was an asian woman police officer in my hospital nightmare himekokatagiri: I hate these mini AI winters himekokatagiri: <@505313122802728972> komoru what are you doing himekokatagiri: gahhh I'm so bored hey1_1hey: That can always change yanno, no one can predict the future 🫠 futurist_wizard: Im not getting chased by a tall demonic looking man with a chainsaw so it'd be a big change hey1_1hey: I have fake confidence. I pretend I am confident because if I dont I am a socially anxiouse loser hey1_1hey: Far from it
metaldragon01: Nope professorheaven: Is this lab trying to achieve AGI as well? metaldragon01: Sama is absolutely cracked at identifying real talent otub: talent hikukomoru: Oh nvm you mean Mira hikukomoru: Who are you talking abt st.sioux: like a lot of teams use aws or azure and integrating google cloud is jsut too messy st.sioux: with gemini there are also more considerations like ecosystem lock in but they are becoming a good option too zoermena: 22 degrees instead of 32? I’m so blessed zoermena: Holy shit metaldragon01: They have a good idea about how humans will interact with new upcoming models futurist_wizard: I have a theory about these small labs with notable people and absurd start up valuations are rugpulls futurist_wizard: Mira handing out shares zonchao: wtf do they have hikukomoru: What about Gemini? It's pretty cheap and great at code zonchao: https://x.com/Hangsiin/status/1909574683500200173? st.sioux: can't rely on free models if you're a business st.sioux: just kind of expensive st.sioux: it's already very impactful for boilerplate code generation futurist_wizard: Im semi sure for purposes of grunt programming or the entertainment space near future AI will be rather impactful futurist_wizard: GPT 5 will probably be perceived as being a smart reasoning LLM but it won't be world changing futurist_wizard: I remember reading that ai companies are developing symbolic reasoning and a world model to implement in AI and these two things are needed for agi but those will take a few years to develop, which is outside of the scope of GPT 5 hikukomoru: Why hikukomoru: I heard it got like the bare minimum to get accepted Still pretty nice wellmeaningalien: new reasoning models make it pretty good too futurist_wizard: High suspicion gpt 5 will be disappointing tbh wellmeaningalien: and it makes pretty good passable papers wellmeaningalien: biggest breakthrough is having an open ended tree search structure instead of a linear structure in the first version for idea exploration wellmeaningalien: apparently had like lower criterias than most for acceptance but thats still pretty good wellmeaningalien: well it made like a paper that got accepted into a scientific publication admittedly its not nature but its good nuff hikukomoru: Is it good wellmeaningalien: whatchacallit futurist_wizard: 5 years is soon wellmeaningalien: ai researcher thing wellmeaningalien: yall seen sakana 2 release futurist_wizard: She gave a 5+ year timeline in this singularityenjoyer: Slow timelines = Luddite (not literally) hikukomoru: I use luddite for anyone that doesn't agree with me futurist_wizard: The video is very interesting futurist_wizard: Sabine made good points in the video
hey1_1hey: I used to concentrate so hard on trying not to be arkward that I would llitterly not listen to a word they are saying so I will end up just going "Yeah alright cool thanks" .wolfnacht: i just want to make myself a cabin in the woods and die there. After escaping the society wellmeaningalien: but the people are retarded maintcrew: damn.... L futurist_wizard: You know its a bad sign when everyone in here has problems, doesn't reflect well in the r/singularity perception maintcrew: OK FOR REAL NOW u just need to find ur ppl ig wellmeaningalien: danny dan it doesnt really help either when you've got a fundamental defect in your capacity of abstract thinking and inferring emotion and tones from people too a1c4p0ne: Oh nice <:ez:1136267305521774634> maintcrew: its ok i started off on discord too when the anxiety hit me in puberty u got this queen 👍 hey1_1hey: Nah, they instantly know I am autistic so it works out .wolfnacht: my bi-polar fucked me post covid bcz my speech's got a bit disorganized, and u know i always end up missing some things i wanted to say. hey1_1hey: I've found out most people find it endearing so its actually a win win for me a1c4p0ne: They might think you’re rude lol zoermena: This hey1_1hey: I have hey1_1hey: Autism is great tho. If I were to be autistic or not be autistic I would be me every day of the week futurist_wizard: Embrace being awkward then hikukomoru: I've been slowly getting better I still have trouble with keeping the conversation and finding words but I don't feel that anxious anymore 👍 wellmeaningalien: i actually find other spergs so annoying so thats difficult tho maintcrew: ok what if u sperg out and filter out ppl incompatible with u wellmeaningalien: "autism's special and it makes me who i am" yeah you're just a sad retard trying to make excuses tbh hey1_1hey: I've gotton used to it hey1_1hey: Thats always been a thing though because of the autism hey1_1hey: Trouble is I always permenatly feel arkward when talking to people maintcrew: bc its not about the talk itself, its an exchange of vibes the words are secondary filler wellmeaningalien: lmao wellmeaningalien: <@1272646380233560067> and then when people try to talk to you later but you don't have the energy to talk like a normal person and you end up sperging out a1c4p0ne: I heard exposure to situations you’re uncomfortable in works .wolfnacht: autism's overhyped btw....everyone just wanna find an excuse for their shitty life. zoermena: What’s there to talk about? Oh yeah that new artists who talks about drugs and sex arrived in to town so cool! hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/lock-in-locked-in-lock-tf-in-cat-cat-meme-gif-13335816645637017379 wellmeaningalien: YEAH YOU KINDA CAN but it takes like 1000% more effort than if you're not autistic and what i end up learning are more rigid like rule based approaches at how to make a conversation flow, if i try to act like a non autistic person it just makes it way harder. its gotten slightly better but i'm like still a loooong way to actually being able to talk like a normal person and i still really put myself out there futurist_wizard: I was actually diagnosed with mild to moderate as well, da fuck, i think that was a misdiagnosis, like moderate autism is just retarded maintcrew: have you tried locking in ⁉️ a1c4p0ne: What about Asperger’s combined with social anxiety hey1_1hey: A long process. I just kept telling my self that it doesn't matter what anyone thinks because I prob wont see them ever again anyway. maintcrew: talk to ppl more even if its bad at start u get used to it hikukomoru: I hate those retards that say they don't want a cure Like bitch maybe autism really is just something quirky for you but for me it makes retarded at everythinfg hey1_1hey: If only it was that easy a1c4p0ne: How did you get rid of it
.histic: at least it's free i guess.. .histic: omg, there's so much things restricted in Veo. can't get to generate known characters. st.sioux: it looks like jack skellington hey1_1hey: Maybe just ever hey1_1hey: Actually no scratch that hey1_1hey: Safe to say I wouldt want to meet him in a forest at night hey1_1hey: Still relatively creeper .histic: it does not know the concept of "slenderman" <:LOL:1187460826572005436> maybe blocked? hey1_1hey: Also note, do note eat fly agarics unless properly prepared. They are slightly hallucinogenic st.sioux: holy moly hey1_1hey: The overfitting for flyagarics is insane. Its such a minute thing no one would care about other than me hey1_1hey: lmao <:LOL:1187460826572005436> I am not complaing tho .histic: nah, here you go. also, my goodness, its safety filters are pretty trash when you just input 'anime girl'. i generated two, but it only gave me one due to safety restrictions. hey1_1hey: I am not a femboy twink, I am actually a 40 year old rugged man who wheres fly agaric mushrooms hey1_1hey: <:HP_smile:1249765744833462296> You got me .histic: basically, i bypassed the quota by using my second account <:ez:1136267305521774634> .histic: <@439829942310666250> "in a forest there exist a "Mushroom Man". show a video of the man in his natural habitat" .histic: i checked, and even on my second gmail account it's available. try different gmails. clevermoniker: this is why i am not excited or barely use google AI products clevermoniker: <:bingus:1136264105800515644> .histic: the first prompt i entered had 'real-life anime girl' in it and it got blocked due to safety reasons... i then tried a different prompt and it said, "Failed to generate video: user has exceeded quota." <:LOL:1187460826572005436> aero447: I do not have this. .histic: <@590577270926868480> <:ez:1136267305521774634> st.sioux: shawty wanna ball with the team wellmeaningalien: https://rmtwitter.com/sama wellmeaningalien: i miss rmtwitter sweetievee__33649: its time to become a human exceptionist again .histic: https://x.com/gf_256/status/1883598626943127605 futurist_wizard: Stupidpenisx doesn't sound as good sweetievee__33649: STUPIDPENISX?! i love the human brain sweetievee__33649: thats what i was going for .histic: but yeah, v3 cooked it anyway wellmeaningalien: https://stupidpenisx.com/sama futurist_wizard: They definitely won't think you are deranged .histic: for some reason i thought they were benching grok 3 thinking futurist_wizard: .histic: that wasn't thinking. .histic: wait, i retract that. wellmeaningalien: meanwhile deepseek v3 sweetievee__33649: possibly even change my irl name to that
nester173: I have this article queued up: https://medium.com/@alexglushenkov/from-words-to-concepts-ushering-in-the-next-era-of-ai-with-lcm-ac70e6233d9c nester173: I'm not well versed in the naysayers' arguments, but what about the possibility of a plateau? christiskingrapturenxtmonth: > Singularity in the next 5 years I've been in the Singularity discord since 2022. I've also been on the singularity reddit since around 2016. I am 100% certain Singularity in the next 5 years, perhaps even this year?! clevermoniker: can't we just foom please? <:huh:1136266753656238243> destrucules: Personally I think UBI is very likely to hit some countries within the next 5 years, and yours could be one of them, but make sure your "it actually took 7 years" backup plan is not horrible zoermena: <@439829942310666250> nester173: I'm 33 and am living in a (rich) gulf arab country. Have worked as a software developer for 8 years and got massive burnout that kept me out of the loop of most things tech related so haven't been keenly aware of AI developments until like a month ago. Worked as a government clerk for two years then quit. NEETed this past year. I was going to start a mushroom farming business but am now not so sure. I have enough money to sustain me a good while. How plausible is: "Singularity in the next 5 years"? Would rather just chill in the meanwhile if that's a reasonable option, not bothering at all with a job, with the assumption that something like UBI gets globally instated. Any thoughts? zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/cum-gif-20534148 christiskingrapturenxtmonth: https://tenor.com/view/blade-runner2049-gif-26500785 zoermena: Holodeck mentioned?! zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/i-did-it-because-i-liked-it-i-did-it-because-i-liked-it-punisher-punisher-daredevil-punisher-court-scene-punisher-court-speech-gif-9280760464850102883 zoermena: And I LOVE it spicy.lemonade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUbx5RC8ro4 a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/thegenioo/status/1914024944188469675?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg spicy.lemonade: veo3 himekokatagiri: well maybe in a year himekokatagiri: it's gonna take a while and I'll never run it .histic: when an opensource version happens <:hehe:1136619235662118983> himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> himekokatagiri: when is Veo 2 censorship ending .histic: normies never know better options <:LOL:1187460826572005436> but i do must say... gemini's website is a better experience. himekokatagiri: when is Google sending their new image model out a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> a1c4p0ne: Ai studio is better but less users .histic: i wonder what the rate limits would be if Google had as much traffic as ChatGPT. .histic: Gemini for comparison himekokatagiri: but if I were to run locally yeah then deepseek himekokatagiri: idk felt astroturfed himekokatagiri: and it was better himekokatagiri: I tried deepseek and it was alright for a while but then we got the thinking thing on the other models a1c4p0ne: All my friends only know ChatGPT himekokatagiri: GPT gets work done .histic: damn, they've got 150+ million people using their website per day, and that's just web ChatGPT himekokatagiri: I wouldn't have it any other way!!! himekokatagiri: off kilter himekokatagiri: It's not my fault my tastes are uhhhh himekokatagiri: wtf I was attacked... 😭 a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/roasted-oh-shookt-gif-8269968 hikukomoru: You're not a normie You're an autistic weeb in the singularity discord server himekokatagiri: the 'its just a tool' thing
hey1_1hey: Lmao .0xunkn0wn: 😳 a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864 .0xunkn0wn: WHAT 😭 hikukomoru: My hands are always freezing and i can type you retard hey1_1hey: Prob hey1_1hey: Tits? futurist_wizard: low t? hey1_1hey: Leave me alone hey1_1hey: My hands are cold hikukomoru: "benchamrsk" sounds like some Russian village .0xunkn0wn: aaaaaaaa .0xunkn0wn: this is another image agi st.sioux: why does it have 3 decimals hey1_1hey: SamA wasn't joing about saturating benchamrsk in 2025 drewsni: holy fuck doubled task time to 3.7 sonnet gamerbath: AIME 2024 and 2025 just got really saturated shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/double-trouble-double-trouble-twins-high-five-gif-13816609 literallyvarane: Where can I get that research team sweater? hikukomoru: It's not AGI because they still haven't solved baldness hey1_1hey: We need new benchamrks .0xunkn0wn: damn drewsni: 4.40 output? ldj lied everyone died futurist_wizard: DEI GPT? hey1_1hey: Why is everyone bald here bro futurist_wizard: they replaced the white men! spicy.lemonade: a1c4p0ne: 22k viewers shirethedreamer: system card https://cdn.openai.com/pdf/2221c875-02dc-4789-800b-e7758f3722c1/o3-and-o4-mini-system-card.pdf hey1_1hey: o4 mini please futurist_wizard: these guys are such nerds callmepyro: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1k0pof7/o3_and_o4_mini_pricing/ futurist_wizard: it has to be agi why else would they mention coral and fish callmepyro: callmepyro: Pricing page is updated. aero447: Remarkable consistency. zoermena: Shut up decel hey1_1hey: Thats fucked up hey1_1hey: 99.5% 😭 aero447: 😎
maintcrew: my x feed is only that and i want to see other things at this point maintcrew: so true spicy.lemonade: It feels like slop spicy.lemonade: I've seen so much spicy.lemonade: Ok I'm tired of ghibli avizuradnb: We have to keep reporting them, I did so too. Some weirdo was calling for the deaths of anyone who used LLMs lmao, unacceptable spicy.lemonade: delay inevitable spicy.lemonade: wouldnt have done anything. grok would just become opensource in this scenario _cloudost: If Kamala had won, would she have implemented copyright laws against grok spicy.lemonade: theyl eventually make their own spicy.lemonade: grok does copyright upside down _cloudost: People that make death threats to AI artists need to be imprisoned ASAP spicy.lemonade: its not like theyl get regulated _cloudost: scarlet voice got removed all because of these anti AI folks _cloudost: OpenAI shouldnt listen to anti AI people again _cloudost: Anti AI people are trying so hard to destroy AI, they think they can spread fake news like in the scarlet Johansson case spicy.lemonade: him gettingmad wont stop me from generating new ghibli's spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: who cares spicy.lemonade: no _cloudost: if he gets mad it'll be a very bad image for openAI hikukomoru: I wonder how Miyazaki feels about all this I hope he's mad Cause it's funny spicy.lemonade: id have the same reaction spicy.lemonade: oh lol maintcrew: this was what we has talking about omfg we got baited maintcrew: https://fxtwitter.com/menhguin/status/1905209385468760290 maintcrew: the miyazaki quote about ai is misleading spicy.lemonade: goated wolf3404: AI has been pretty ok at dad jokes for a bit I think, but this is really good, the whole illustration is quality no doubt. _cloudost: idk, Gemini 2.5 responses havent disappointed me not even once spicy.lemonade: 2.5 was good incremental update spicy.lemonade: and this spicy.lemonade: the robot showcase spicy.lemonade: germini 2 made me feel agi _cloudost: Gemini 2.5 and this native img gen changed my mind _cloudost: Never thought id feel the AGI in 2025 spicy.lemonade: what kind of black magic spicy.lemonade: how tf did openAI do this bro spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade:
alejandrozarzuelo: the goal is to replace human labor hikukomoru: Yes, everyone getting replaced is the goall alejandrozarzuelo: yeah? why do you think companies spend trillions on AI? fuhulootogan: and how do you know that fuhulootogan: that's the purpose? archon.e: Or anything else for that matter fuhulootogan: of AI? alejandrozarzuelo: Because wether it is art or not, if it can be consumed and produced for a fraction of the cost, it will be replaced archon.e: It has become mundane to be good at coding hikukomoru: Replacing everyone is the point archon.e: I can’t wait for it honestly. archon.e: Coding jobs will also be eliminated fuhulootogan: why? hikukomoru: Hopefully it will replace everyone else too fuhulootogan: uhh alejandrozarzuelo: ? have i not been clear enough? hopefully AI will eliminate the employment of almost all artists fuhulootogan: what do you mean by "hopefully will unemploy almost all artists" archon.e: If I was an artist i would be starting an OF by now fuhulootogan: what? fuhulootogan: rifht fuhulootogan: AI is artificial intelligence alejandrozarzuelo: in any case <@1212375743863066645> its ok if you dont wan to call AI art as art, what matters is the material reality, which hopefully will unemploy almost all artists dont call it art, the replacement and elimination of their jobs is independent on how you choose to call it fuhulootogan: what do you mean by that fuhulootogan: no archon.e: We can create an improved version of ourself in our image archon.e: Hopefully some day we will be able to replicate it archon.e: Consciousness is so easy for nature alejandrozarzuelo: its just that you need to realize that unless you EXCLUSIVELY require biology, AI is indeed an intelligence with all that comes from it archon.e: Will an ai system that becomes conscious have wants? fuhulootogan: "white flag" means i give up archon.e: But without bodies will we still have wants? fuhulootogan: it isn't fuhulootogan: i know alejandrozarzuelo: its not a competition fuhulootogan: i pull the white flag 🏳️ fuhulootogan: i feel like this is becoming boring archon.e: Yeah merging with ai is an option archon.e: Exploration of the universe will be the last frontier for humanity. I hope I can stay alive for that alejandrozarzuelo: hopefully we wont need physical bodies when we merge with the ASI archon.e: Replicators will be common place
anathemaofmankind: Lmao no spicy.lemonade: no benata: google pays 2 years salary up front for the AI researchers theaiguy69420_89814: its way worse now for sure theaiguy69420_89814: literally crazy anathemaofmankind: Always has been theaiguy69420_89814: go to berk, instant 500k job with infinite sick days hikukomoru: Did you ask the recruiter when they will have AGI theaiguy69420_89814: the world is so insanely inequal rn lo spicy.lemonade: they get infinite paid leave spicy.lemonade: the recruiter told me that spicy.lemonade: yup darkstar0818: the swe results are decent for a non-thinking model, but that is the one domain where people dont generally care about cost so... theaiguy69420_89814: what spicy.lemonade: did you know openAI gives infinite paid leave fractalcomputer: I don't know, I've never heard of someone from the number theory division of the University of Bonn going to work for OpenAI. spicy.lemonade: openai is too linient spicy.lemonade: cause they can tbh spicy.lemonade: yeh benata: looks good on CV shirethedreamer: 💀 shirethedreamer: just for several months and then they leave though spicy.lemonade: everyone coming out of sf stanford/berkeley/caltech goes to openAI futurist_wizard: darkstar0818: ya those benchmarks are a big yawn. fractalcomputer: What kind of world do you live in? spicy.lemonade: i think openAI still has the best researchers in the plannet benata: You don't need to profit much when you have the greatest LLM on the world used by everyone. hikukomoru: Wish they hired me to do nothing ailoveyoom: That's not their whole business model shirethedreamer: they have to they are running on nvidia gpus that has the largest margins in human history theaiguy69420_89814: i mean, its an upgrade on the oai stance ailoveyoom: Google doesn't really need to make profit on their LLMs tho zonchao: best researchers that do nothing and get paid 🔥 hikukomoru: I wouldn't be surprised tbh theaiguy69420_89814: google profit margins have to be lower zonchao: fake theaiguy69420_89814: i feel like openai is just upping the price just cuz they can hikukomoru: TPUs + Best researchers on the planet benata: They don't sleep they just work for a better model
hey1_1hey: 26 so yeah around there zoermena: One pound is 20 pesos IIRC futurist_wizard: Even still hey1_1hey: Pretty impressive hey1_1hey: 37k normal money zoermena: Wow, fuck you but that’s good bait futurist_wizard: Thats a lie, bull testicles ain't worth that much spicy.lemonade: Original spicy.lemonade: hikukomoru: If I'm talking about crushing testicles with hammers then you can talk about anything hey1_1hey: How much is a peso spicy.lemonade: lol hey1_1hey: Thats monoploy money to me spicy.lemonade: 4o image gen spicy.lemonade: No technocake.: wait they just cold dropped 4.1? zoermena: Is it good? zoermena: I had a rich classmate tell me he met this dude who sold bull testicles for millions of Mexican pesos hikukomoru: Talk about whatever you want here boo spicy.lemonade: Yes hey1_1hey: Thanks ❤️ zoermena: Is this your screenshot futurist_wizard: This is a schizo area hey1_1hey: I wonder how much testicles go for on the black market hikukomoru: I'd just crush yours with a hammer or smth spicy.lemonade: futurist_wizard: You shouldn't hey1_1hey: I'll give them you permenatly if you want zoermena: Im restraining my ideas as they would probably kill the chat. hikukomoru: Donate me your balls temporarily hey1_1hey: They got a differnet texture futurist_wizard: They aren't hey1_1hey: Still no futurist_wizard: So disappointing hikukomoru: Interesting hikukomoru: So balls are like boobs but more sensitive hey1_1hey: How about you have a set of them and we kick you in the balls and then ask if they were meant to be hit like a target futurist_wizard: You just don't feel anything zoermena: This clears a lot of doubt on me, Thanks! 👍 hey1_1hey: Can confirm
wellmeaningalien: <@688807313015963693> u finally woke up from ur coma hikukomoru: Who the fuck is barry Why does he love me hey1_1hey: Because of gender, otherwise its just dissociation futurist_wizard: Most i think alejandrozarzuelo: ah ok futurist_wizard: A lot of Brazilians are mixed technocake.: barry loves you .histic: ooh.. that's even better wellmeaningalien: np wellmeaningalien: why is invincible wearing a cape? is he becoming omni man zoermena: Bless you hikukomoru: European Portuguese <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> alejandrozarzuelo: i mean, just because you dont know the name of the bloke who wrote it doesnt mean you dont know ehat they are talking about wellmeaningalien: "generate a picture of an updated imagined version of the bridge of the uss-enterprise-d (picard's galaxy class) but with animals in the starfleet uniforms. do it like it might look like if the show was made today" .histic: come to brazil! .histic: brazilian? no way maintcrew: the martingales representation theorem not a martingale _wwwwww: literally me hey1_1hey: So for anyone wondering, yes I am prob trans. No you do not have to treat me diffrently. Just go about your day as per usual maintcrew: no retardo the second google result hikukomoru: I'm Portuguese alejandrozarzuelo: its the regression to the mean theorem dude, its very easy hikukomoru: I look like this actually .histic: wait, what are you? wellmeaningalien: hikukomoru: I am not Asian bro 😭 maintcrew: i dont know either just some guy was using it as an example on twitter its some representation theory shit i just wanted to put u on the spot .histic: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> i dont know hey1_1hey: They are like weird short gremlin vibes zoermena: AMAZING PASS THE PROMPT I BEG YOU alejandrozarzuelo: ok so the regression to the mean theorem futurist_wizard: Asian hikukomoru: ⁉️ hey1_1hey: Absolutly not wellmeaningalien: hikukomoru: Driving with a mouse 🔥 .histic: this is what <@505313122802728972> looks like alejandrozarzuelo: dude, do you think i know every name of every random bloke who wrote anything? technocake.: claude my beloved hey1_1hey: Hard to explain, best way I can explain it is you look in the mirror and the person looking back at you isn't you just a person looking back at you
wellmeaningalien: also which 16yo would draw like that spicy.lemonade: chill spicy.lemonade: i was 16 wellmeaningalien: bro ur drawing doesnt even match the description spicy.lemonade: lmao spicy.lemonade: read above .wolfnacht: where is the chat ??? spicy.lemonade: guys the server your in is not the one im actively in. i posted the art on multiple servers spicy.lemonade: anathemaofmankind: Perma ban anathemaofmankind: https://tenor.com/view/shrek-gif-502627409480164820 anathemaofmankind: I have joined the spicy server wellmeaningalien: would they know? wellmeaningalien: i wanna spectate but theyd know its some kind of raid .wolfnacht: imagine how much they would seethe, once they knew alejandrozarzuelo: like "i did thi when I was 11 and i have different versions" alejandrozarzuelo: thats actually very clever spicy alejandrozarzuelo: yeahhh wellmeaningalien: Make it anime, make it 11 years old and free updoots spicy.lemonade: ill just take screenshot trent_k: change the filename .wolfnacht: someone post it on r/mademesmile with caption "my 6 yr old daughter drew her first art" ailoveyoom: Like a server spicy.lemonade: havent drawn recently ailoveyoom: I need an equivalent but for writing ngl 😔 spicy.lemonade: as a kid spicy.lemonade: yeah gonna say i drew this spicy.lemonade: alejandrozarzuelo: say that this is your OG fursona spicy.lemonade: just looked up art servers ailoveyoom: How did you find this server anyway? wellmeaningalien: YUP spicy.lemonade: . good fursona or nah wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/haha-classic-duck-smoke-duckling-gif-1257181907758262423 wellmeaningalien: trent being trent spicy.lemonade: that was the plan .wolfnacht: finally after getting their trust, u should reveal it was all made by an AI and watch their reaction. ailoveyoom: You know how weird people are here 😭 ailoveyoom: Your fault for posting the link here lol spicy.lemonade: 😭
hey1_1hey: Or atleast they dont admit it, Ik tho <:suseye:1187461162024046703> My gaydar has a 99% accuracy hikukomoru: What's her @? hey1_1hey: A know a couple hikukomoru: Yeah it makes sense Like why would a gay guy be a muslim too hey1_1hey: What a guy hikukomoru: Former muslim hikukomoru: ohhh _cloudost: No, dude told me he was a former Muslim and gay hey1_1hey: Enigma? hikukomoru: Am I mixing something up hey1_1hey: I didnt know my wife was muslim hikukomoru: I thought jgudy was muslim _cloudost: He was atheist tho memlaswaif: im not horny imjust kinda high memlaswaif: fujc jonvi_1: I've followed this company for like 4-5 years at least so this is exciting hikukomoru: It's jgudy _cloudost: They became atheist after realizing the singularity is the true religion hikukomoru: First time I see you being horny hey1_1hey: What-- What happned to them? hikukomoru: Used to be hey1_1hey: I showed her the video of the dire wolfs and she warmed up to them really quickly and said "Awh there not that bad actually" jonvi_1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5uCuOwK_VE another video hey1_1hey: Depends on your definition ailoveyoom: Rare horny memla waif ailoveyoom: Bring back dodo birds 🥺 memlaswaif: is ure mum hot hey1_1hey: My mum has a tendency to be a doomer when she doesn't understand what the technology actually is which is fair enough. I asked her why and she said that people can do "bad things with it" when I pushed further she said she didn't know but is worried about it .wolfnacht: >The world is gonna end i'm more interested abt that part...why jonvi_1: so species that did not exist, as well as species close to what we may imagine existed wellmeaningalien: we all did wellmeaningalien: lmao _cloudost: Not true jonvi_1: However, we would be able to eventually create anything jonvi_1: Well I don't think we have much genetic data on dinosaurs jonvi_1: Oh I see hey1_1hey: Oh no that this is the beginning of the end because we can name bring back anything jonvi_1: The world is ending if they don't bring back dinosaurs? haha .wolfnacht: the way sama's img gen censors bodyparts, i feel sama's on path to islam. memlaswaif: he thought gpt 4 was gonna be agi
hey1_1hey: I made a promise with SamA aswell that if I got into a maid outfit I would be able to access it first wellmeaningalien: zoermena: Don’t threaten me with a good time hikukomoru: Why don't we have 4o image gen yet hey1_1hey: Sadly not wellmeaningalien: this is what image gen is for wellmeaningalien: drink cum zoermena: Do you have 4o gen wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/cum-gif-19843706 hey1_1hey: The dehydration is getting to me 🥵 ailoveyoom: Something else gon flow (it's not spice) 😤 hikukomoru: I want to bury my head in that sand zonchao: 😭😭😭 wellmeaningalien: stole the thundar pichai zonchao: 💀💀💀💀 zoermena: Sad zonchao: openai has done it once again wellmeaningalien: zonchao: no 2.5 pro posts on my tl hikukomoru: I am sad hikukomoru: No zoermena: Can you use 4o image gen? hey1_1hey: posistion* hey1_1hey: What is that hand pississtion hey1_1hey: Hes not even playing with the keys hikukomoru: Wow. Everything's Minecraft. .histic: wellmeaningalien: cant wait to see what metas doing tho wellmeaningalien: never underestimate google hey1_1hey: No same, I didn't re read it either because its just something mich mach would say 😭 hikukomoru: Damn I didn't know u were chill like that _3sphere: wellmeaningalien: google cooked openai so hard hikukomoru: Google are going to be the ones making AGI first .histic: yeah, Google cooked. the https://livebench.ai score is a huge jump too. ailoveyoom: Sure that too ig <:coy:1187466404367175821> wellmeaningalien: lol wellmeaningalien: and cheaper hey1_1hey: Real? wellmeaningalien: https://fxtwitter.com/MahawarYas27492/status/1904882460602642686
brain4brain: Exactly spicy.lemonade: i mean gemini can do stuff that would take a human an hour to do in minutes brain4brain: So by the law they discovered AI agent should be able to do a millennium worth of work in just a few minuets by 2030 - 2040? ldj: so 1,000 years means that it is able to do task that would've taken a human 1,000 years to achieve. ldj: it simply is difficulty measured by how long it would take a human to do such task ldj: It has nothing to do with the time it takes the AI agent to do the task brain4brain: One thing with the METR paper I’ve failed to wrap my mind around is that it eventually go to millennium ish territory, and I don’t know if they are implying centuries of work done in a few turn by an agent or that is the upper bound of agent and the actual time will not be a few turn like current system spicy.lemonade: 30 min to1 hour spicy.lemonade: yeah well maybe not 15 metaldragon01: Most task can be broken up into 15 to 30 minute task imo clevermoniker: i hope he's right but could just simply be wrong indeed brain4brain: Hopecore st.sioux: if we can assign tickets to a coding agent that take 15-30 minutes then it would be extremely useful, like replace-all-juniors useful brain4brain: <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946> ldj: A lot of differing views on that amongst AI researchers and engineers. asking an AI engineer that question is not much more reliable than asking them directly when AGI would be achieved. you'll get a ton of different answers spicy.lemonade: this kinda adds spicy.lemonade: hm if we assume cl;aude plays pokemmon is 10 mins short term memory clevermoniker: i have spoken with an AI engineer and he told me that after AI reaches 30 minutes very high accuracy that it can be extended practically to infinity st.sioux: having such a name makes them that way brain4brain: Why are all the people named “Gary” always so pessimistic spicy.lemonade: its like no one can see the trend spicy.lemonade: this happesn every single time ldj: Here is a way to visualize it that might be more helpful too. The lines are underlying roughly the same year in time brain4brain: The middle guy is just amazed spicy.lemonade: like today spicy.lemonade: all chess players were coping spicy.lemonade: AI cantr beat human spicy.lemonade: gary kept saying it would never happen spicy.lemonade: deep blue beat gary kasparov spicy.lemonade: feb 10th 1996 spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: whats your tier 3 knowledge work prediction clevermoniker: I sure hope that tier 3 happens by 50%<:LDJ:1236341277826482226> brain4brain: How about knowledge work only probability prediction? ldj: ldj: and that hypothesis seemed to turn out correct ldj: Because that's just what I chose it to be <:shrug:1083221317945413777> and because I believed that peoples timeline differences between the average of 50% and the average of 99%, would be similar to peoples timeline differences of the average of 99% versus 100% of 100% brain4brain: What’s your probability prediction for other tier like tier 2 and 3? clevermoniker: why is tier 2 99% and not 80% or 90% etc? ldj: 50% of knowledge work as good as the average, would be tier 1 knowledge work
wellmeaningalien: recently ive been talking to gemini 2.5 about dragon ball lore drewsni: me too, but i dont show it as my main advertisement wellmeaningalien: ngl i ask stupid questions to LLMs all the time drewsni: great i can find out the history of macha with copilot :)))) wellmeaningalien: o4-mini gonna be a league above every model if o3-mini is already near SOTA in alot of respects wellmeaningalien: finetune this finetune that .wolfnacht: u can do much more with opensource finetunes...especially whn it comes to story writing wellmeaningalien: qwq is good but its a 32b model wellmeaningalien: o3-mini sweeps the floor with qwq .wolfnacht: L4's gonna be shit, it has to beat QwQ and Qwen 2.5 Max. Otherwise it's time to dig up the Illama Grave. wellmeaningalien: never expect anything good from midstafa suleyman's mouth hey1_1hey: Is it ass? wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/druski-druski-dance-dance-ts-pmo-gif-2878196207953698978 wellmeaningalien: man llama 4 coming out and o4 mini soon <a:tears_holding_back_face:1066538528248451072> <a:tears_holding_back_face:1066538528248451072> <a:tears_holding_back_face:1066538528248451072> wellmeaningalien: imo still too unreliable for that clevermoniker: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> wellmeaningalien: lemme guess its like apple intelligence wellmeaningalien: lol drewsni: no wellmeaningalien: <@88481490228228096> is this copilot thing noteworthy drewsni: it happened before the trailer video that just played drewsni: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5THCzTNPNk ldj: Where is the stream link pls shirethedreamer: just a few more months away im serious bruh shirethedreamer: 😆 shirethedreamer: july 2023 shirethedreamer: zoermena: Thanks! 👍 drewsni: audio guy is gonna get fired drewsni: but you heard everything they said drewsni: off to the side wellmeaningalien: like someone jumped on stage? drewsni: worth it just to hear suleyman be put in an extremely awkard situation wellmeaningalien: ❓ drewsni: someone just interupted it for a solid minute or two drewsni: yeah wellmeaningalien: the copilot event? wellmeaningalien: what u talking about drewsni: what the fuck microsoft drewsni: bro did bill gates just get up
hey1_1hey: We'll see in the news San is now the CEO of OAI, Anthropic, NVDA and google. Then he'll fire all the employees so he can do all the work by himself oooooooooog: sure buddy, i lebeive uou ldj: Just so you know, this was a hypothetical related to an earlier conversation and I’m not actually considering putting a majority of my networth into nvidia stock <:LOL:1187460826572005436> maintcrew: valuing stupidity of someones else hyper all in gamble before the aftermath is similarly stupid tbh zoermena: True oooooooooog: it wouldn't be the financial incentive changing my outlook on LDJ, but rather, the stupidity of the decision futurist_wizard: Real wallstreetbets hours futurist_wizard: Majority of net worth into a individual stock zoermena: I meant like he’s smart enough to not change his opinions on progress if he where to put his net worth on NVDIA hey1_1hey: You've been caught ldj: yes I think so, and same thing applies to getting a job at Nvidia too, willing to take a job at Nvidia even when having multiple career options elsewhere is a testament to that person really believing in the mission and path of nvidia imo hikukomoru: <@806143139894525962> explain yourself lil bro oooooooooog: 2.88 trillion* maintcrew: wouldnt putting all of your money into nvidia prove even more that you wholeheartedly believe in your perspectives and beliefs about progress oooooooooog: sarik and komoru lol gamerbath: ldj is smart enough to understand that he can't really increase the value of 3 trillion dollar company by talking about it in a niche discord gamerbath: i'm surprised people are actually saying yes to the poll, I don't understand why zoermena: I think this falls on how mature you are which I think is more than enough ldj: last one amongst those series of polls ldj: lol ldj: on one hand, investing into public nvidia stock lacks the increase in knowledge that getting an actual Job at Nvidia would give you. So you can't really make the argument here of inside knowledge balancing out the downside of financial incentive. On the other hand, the financial incentive is still likely so small from hyping up nvidia stock in discord, that it would be very insignifcant and virtually zero, unless the person is irrationally becoming emotionally attached towards convincing themselves that Nvidia is better, as some sort of coping mechanism to attach their identity to the sentiment of the company, even if it's just the sentiment amongst their personal friends. gamerbath: ... gamerbath: u said the last one was the last one ldj: I could see this poll result going either way tbh ldj: ldj: > You're implying that everyone in power whose messaging is bad is weak willed and lacks integrity That's definitely not the intention, and I'm struggling to see how you conclude such implication. btw when you say "messaging is bad" do you mean people who have messaging that I disagree with? Or people that have messaging that is proven to be significantly financially influenced when you do mech interp on their brain? I still disagree in either interpretation though. > the incentives that shape the way they're able to present online In this scenario, do you mean the chance of Nvidia stock increasing by maybe 0.1% or 1% max if I talk really good about it on a discord server, thus causing my equity in this hypothetical to be upto 1% more valuable? On that point I would say 2 main things: 1. This is not even exclusive to getting a job at Nvidia, since this kind of financial incentive would apply to anyone that puts any significant portion of their money into Nvidia stock. 2. The amount of possible upside from this I'd say is definitely quite insignificant, yes there is a financial incentive bound to effect their behavior to some minor degree, but overall on net, I'd argue it's practically neutral or even net positive, due to the persons enhanced perspective on the world from now being an insider. _wwwwww: > DeeperSearch _wwwwww: musk is funny ldj: > If you think everyone who bends the knee to incentives is doing so because they're a soulless monster just so its clear, if you think this is what I believe, it's not. It's simply the fact that some people are more effected by financial incentives than others, not just a black and white of Angels versus Soulless monsters, but everything in-between, some people let financial incentives skew their stances on things to huge degree, it also depends on the situation of how the financial incentives are set up too, and what behaviour we're measuring as being influenced by it. metaldragon01: Courts would have it pretty easy if the motive was always money tbh ldj: In this case it is though, there is no mandate in this situation of "if you tell people that your perspective on the world is this different way, then we'll penalize you or take money away from you" maybe you can make that argument indirectly due to stock price being effected for example, but in the hypotheticals we talked about even that would be very miniscule and insignificant, likely not even having a 0.1% change on the persons wealth(even if someone on discord became convinced to invest 1 million into nvidia, the change in stock price caused by that would likely be much less than even 0.1%), and then there is other positive factors you have to weigh that I mention, such as the persons trust worthiness actually increasing, such as the question (does this persons new position increase the accuracy of their perspective on the world by more than 0.1%?) betting $1,000 in a discord server on something for example would likely far outweigh any financial incentive they gain in their profession from sharing disingenuous perspectives of the world in a discord server. metaldragon01: It can be for a lot of people but it's very important to be able to recognize when it isn't metaldragon01: Financial incentives aren't always the prime incentive metaldragon01: Was a silly scenario in that case. Science doesn't always require funding destrucules: No, the guy with no funding does no science. I said that explicitly destrucules: That's my point. If you think everyone who bends the knee to incentives is doing so because they're a soulless monster, you've gotta recognize that that means almost everyone is a soulless monster to you. That's a very dark way of seeing the world, and I am arguing against that 3ds0662: Yeah can’t even get real friends either one minute someone’s cool the next they have a knife in your back humanity is completely fickle metaldragon01: They both do science. One just does it in a more narrow domain metaldragon01: People fuck each other over every inconvenience destrucules: One of them does science, the other does not. The one that does science is clearly the better scientist
zoermena: I CANT WAIT FOR FDVR himekokatagiri: 🤔 dunno himekokatagiri: custom order cars of course himekokatagiri: buying a lot of stuff from the many sears catalogs himekokatagiri: cool things would be uhhh himekokatagiri: nothing concrete himekokatagiri: eeeeh idk I wrote some scenarios up alejandrozarzuelo: And share poop sponges with strangers alejandrozarzuelo: I would love to visit Rome in its height alejandrozarzuelo: Like truly being there himekokatagiri: imagine call of cthulhu on FDVR alejandrozarzuelo: The idea os to be as realistic as possible alejandrozarzuelo: But yeah alejandrozarzuelo: Well in 1966 you can simply ride a car into town himekokatagiri: lol himekokatagiri: it's just I guess you gotta specify it himekokatagiri: Uh it's on FDVR of course you'll have documents alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah himekokatagiri: got your hotel booked in etc etc himekokatagiri: could start like Westworld you're in a train ride alejandrozarzuelo: Of course, but modern tech can make forgery that they wouldnt even have the tech to realize himekokatagiri: well I'd need documents some money alejandrozarzuelo: Imagine having one week tourism in 1966 alejandrozarzuelo: I would love to spend a week on basically any time period alejandrozarzuelo: Great himekokatagiri: anyhow I'm thinking of scenarios like being dropped in 1966 randomly with no aim sounds fun for a while but you'll get bored alejandrozarzuelo: Just in time to catch polio after the Spanish flu Hmmmm himekokatagiri: buying a Tommy gun in a hardware shop himekokatagiri: 20s sound fun too alejandrozarzuelo: BTW I would love FDVR to be used to do realistic time travel himekokatagiri: Me too alejandrozarzuelo: We have improved massively on all the things I mentioned about the 60s The only thing that hasn't improved everywhere I homophobia in some countries All others have seen universal improvement hikukomoru: It’s true hikukomoru: I experience extreme oppression for being pro AI retrerox: same with sexism retrerox: Racism is debatable depending your pov alejandrozarzuelo: I would love to do time tourism, but not to live in another time retrerox: homophobia is currently more an issue in specific part of the world. Althought even develop countries still suffers from that. alejandrozarzuelo: Like it's not even on the same order of magnitude hikukomoru: In America it’s coming back
fractalcomputer: Donc il ne peut pas être si difficile de mémoriser l'orthographe de cette belle langue. wellmeaningalien: ah ouai alejandrozarzuelo: pas mon portable alejandrozarzuelo: maintenant jecris sur lordinateur fractalcomputer: Tu ne peux pas utiliser ton autocorrect? alejandrozarzuelo: Lille etait dans l'epicentre entre Bruxelles, Londres et Paris, et pour ca c'etait choisi comme une pole d'innovation lille parfois cest une ville ancienne, mais en realite, 99% de sa influence a eté cree apres la deuxieme gerre mondiale futurist_wizard: 我掉进了一个放射性池塘！现在全身都是水泡和灼伤，痛得要命，快疯了！ retrerox: Althought we can agree that if the humanity werent fighting in shit wars we could be at our current point of technology so many milleniums ago wellmeaningalien: mmm? wellmeaningalien: ouiii gooo les bleussss allez les bleusss retrerox: I mean all our knoledge is based on all the years of the past alejandrozarzuelo: sa localisation dans le coeur de l'europe occidentale alejandrozarzuelo: la meme chose qui a detruit la ville plus fois quaucune autre ville en france fractalcomputer: Mais les contributions les plus significatives de la France aux mathématiques ont été dans le domaine de mathématiques pures. wellmeaningalien: qu'est ce que nous les lilloismans on a fait wellmeaningalien: les vrais femboys originales mec alejandrozarzuelo: oui wellmeaningalien: regarde les gars on est si cool alejandrozarzuelo: les hommes de cette periode avaient des cheveux magnifiques wellmeaningalien: c'est pour ça qu'on a un coin qui s'appelle cité scientifique wellmeaningalien: pour de vrai? wellmeaningalien: bwah wellmeaningalien: ce mec c'était juste une note en bas de la page dans nos cours d'histoire fractalcomputer: Il m'a dit qu'il me ferait mieux lire les oeuvres de tels penseurs. alejandrozarzuelo: villeneuve dasqc a la reputation d'etre un pole d'innovation scientifique et technologique, pas si connu pour les maths abstracts, sinon le contraire, la science et les mathematiques appliques vers le progres technologuique fractalcomputer: L'un de mes amis m'a donné un livre de Montesquieu pour mon anniversaire; je crois que cet acte a été un certain type de blague. wellmeaningalien: d'accord wellmeaningalien: 🫢 wellmeaningalien: eh bien wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/cellular-automaton-mythos-cardano-nft-cnft-gif-16900418931780605171 fractalcomputer: Ils ont peu d'intelligence et moins de la soif de la vérité. wellmeaningalien: les philosophes de la lumière wellmeaningalien: <@688807313015963693> and me 😈 alejandrozarzuelo: villeneuve d'asqc be like: ._. wellmeaningalien: bah il est grand temps pour un révolution wellmeaningalien: bah la casi totalité des domaines d'étude scientifiques qui ne sont pas les mathematiques? alejandrozarzuelo: moi je suis d'accord, la perfection c'est l'enemi du bon fractalcomputer: Mais grâce au bon Seigneur, la France a toujours resté une fortification véritable contre les hordes des mathématiques appliquées. wellmeaningalien: le plus je vie le plus j'ai realise ceci wellmeaningalien: 😮‍💨
futurist_wizard: Mirror futurist_wizard: Impossible spicy.lemonade: everyone is gonna try to saturate fictionbench now that its mainstream futurist_wizard: They are going to impregnate an indian elephant with woolly genes hikukomoru: and neanderthals hikukomoru: And dinosaurs sweetievee__33649: i like the new animals hikukomoru: And saber tooths sweetievee__33649: soon i hope hikukomoru: When are they bringing mammoths back joaoluz19: I see, I thought you were skeptical of this possibility that certain levels of abstraction are impractical with our computational substrate. futurist_wizard: I guess they don't want the wolves replicating hikukomoru: Peggable too sweetievee__33649: the gay woke mind virus strikes again sweetievee__33649: truly futurist_wizard: The gay agenda futurist_wizard: Two boys as well sweetievee__33649: doesnt take away the fact they are cute asf hikukomoru: All that matters hikukomoru: Still cute sweetievee__33649: close enough futurist_wizard: They actually aren't dire wolves, but they have genes that are similar to that of dire wolves sweetievee__33649: i mean what are you going to do in roman times apart from beat each other up and drink alcohol hikukomoru: Also the Romans were really proud for some reason of that story of the founding of their city sweetievee__33649: i wish i never asked 💔 sweetievee__33649: NOOOOOOO _3sphere: https://tenor.com/view/hug-gif-25588793 sweetievee__33649: you dare _3sphere: Anime boys are huggable though hikukomoru: It's from Roman mythology Romulus and Remus were two brothers And they wanted to found a city So they found the Palatine hill of today's Rome and they got into an argument over who would get to name the city Romulus killed Remus and so he named the city Rome after himself futurist_wizard: Demons sweetievee__33649: tell me sweetievee__33649: ... hikukomoru: The story behind those names is not cute in the slightest sweetievee__33649: hes even got a cute name sweetievee__33649: Romulus is mine hikukomoru: Ahhhhhh!!!!! I want one!!!!!! sweetievee__33649: revived dire wolfs are unbelievably cute sweetievee__33649: i stumbled upon these two cuties on x today sweetievee__33649: omg omg omg
joaoluz19: Or was hacked joaoluz19: Yep Fractal is really drunk okbut: preface I wouldn't expect overnight But I would be willing to give the "AGI" definition the legroom to consider a multi-turn type of system in its definition, wherein it asks its administrator for permission (probably an obvious move) This would still seldom be required used, as it's goddamn AGI I also have beef with the idea that it can even be called AGI until it has accomplished the takeover of almost every job position multiple times zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-bateman-gif-27617182 hikukomoru: But I guess you can't take the terminal autism out of a finn joaoluz19: So I like the idea of economic value or the great scientific achievements i.e. curing cancer, nuclear fusion... hikukomoru: Awww I was hoping that was your true self finally coming out joaoluz19: Overall I think definitions are less relevant than the things built independently of them. The LLM revolution had nothing to do with better definitions of intelligence. zoermena: More over all jobs is a loose term, as it starts to replace people over time it’s more likely that jobs will be lost due to companies going bankrupt due to lack of demand because of the contraction in economic power in customers. fractalcomputer: That's because it is entirely fake. zoermena: But the instruction has to be granted, AGI just won’t exist one day and magically start changing all business overnight. So unless you are suggesting this happens which is insane imo then it’s AGI when it’s capable not when it takes all jobs because someone still has to say yes I want that AI in my company. You could perhaps argue that it would be stupid to say no to such technology but stupidity is to common in corporate at all levels. a1c4p0ne: fractalcomputer: Maybe I should start banking off vague predictions. hikukomoru: In a way, it's creepy seeing you type like that okbut: It's so ambigious fractalcomputer: It's all meaningless anyway. joaoluz19: I think Anthropic has a similar one okbut: I hate that chart and I think Sama does now too atp hikukomoru: There is no common consensus as practically everyone has a different definition From people that believe we already have AGI to people that think we'll have it in 2200 fractalcomputer: Safetycels are scaring da huzz joaoluz19: joaoluz19: It's actually a gradient. Big labs work on levels okbut: Make accounts, talk to people, make software, okbut: Thus, it will simply have its on-switch with instructions, and does everything it needs to do to take over the work okbut: If I understand the common concensus definition correctly, "Capable of performing almost all jobs in the workforce" okbut: If it's AGI, it is fully autonomous zoermena: It can’t just find its way in to every job on its own unless it does and it’s fully autonomous fractalcomputer: 2027 seems to be ever more attainable... okbut: There are no ifs and buts joaoluz19: It's not even AGI until it hits the account. okbut: Capable implies overruling that bureaucracy too hikukomoru: It's AGI when schizophrenics on discord deem it so joaoluz19: It's not AGI until then joaoluz19: AGI = 100 billion dollars in Satya's account zoermena: Capable because integration is more of a burocracy issue fractalcomputer: Profound. Slay, king. okbut: Loaded question okbut: Is it AGI when it's capable of taking over most jobs, or when it has done so? fractalcomputer: Go off, King. okbut: Yo I got some beef with the common definition of AGI
otub: https://tenor.com/view/tardis-doctor-who-gif-26828880 return_to_monke1_33974: selling souls to the iluminaty futurist_wizard: zonchao: i was joking btw, they were yapping about something else futurist_wizard: 'improve productivity' with.. What... hikukomoru: Sure In a few years you won't need an education zonchao: no anathemaofmankind: Does this mean I can drop out of college hikukomoru: Greg Brockman announced they have achieved AGI anathemaofmankind: Missed it spicy.lemonade: 💀 spicy.lemonade: i do not trust anything that comes out of whitehouse.gov hikukomoru: Did you miss the stream anathemaofmankind: Are we back return_to_monke1_33974: AH hell nah hikukomoru: WTF literallyvarane: Because they intended to ship o3 zonchao: <a:alert:1225312524690522193> OAI has given GPT-5 access to the whitehouse https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1912551594841051375 return_to_monke1_33974: remember o3 showcase in december literallyvarane: They haven’t even named o4 explicitly. return_to_monke1_33974: because too expensive literallyvarane: Why showcase a model you’re not shipping? return_to_monke1_33974: no , but showcase literallyvarane: It’s probably just GPT5 literallyvarane: I don’t think they ship fat o4 mantegh5061: he will be there for o4 mantegh5061: Oh that's why altman wasn't there spicy.lemonade: o4 mini is about 188th spicy.lemonade: likeley spicy.lemonade: tru return_to_monke1_33974: full o4 a1c4p0ne: O4 mini with tools 🔥 spicy.lemonade: those liars o4 mini is not the #1 competative programmer on earth hikukomoru: GPT 5 tomorrow zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/liar-star-wars-mad-angry-gif-15937551 return_to_monke1_33974: maybe return_to_monke1_33974: 04 showcased tomorow? hikukomoru: Yeah, they announced AGI just like that abundantliving_: https://fxtwitter.com/OpenAIDevs/status/1912556874211422572 literallyvarane: The fact we got o3 and GPT-5 probably is based on o4 raises the bar a bit for me.
fractalcomputer: Thank God. I would have lost my last morcels of respect for OpenAI if they did. neon01197: spicy.lemonade: they didnt literallyvarane: We cooked with this one. fractalcomputer: They did not, did they? neon01197: unchanged from o3-mini and o1 abundantliving_: literallyvarane: Alright that’s a great event. My official ranking for that is a 8.7-9.3. zoermena: No way hey1_1hey: I mean I wasnt lieing... futurist_wizard: didn't they say they trained o3 for 10x as long st.sioux: did they say anything about plus or pro usage limits?? hikukomoru: They just said "AGI is here" return_to_monke1_33974: RELEASE O4 SAM <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> hey1_1hey: Ta ra OAI zoermena: Fr???? spicy.lemonade: this shows nothing is slowing down ttc hey1_1hey: AGI mentioned (real) gamerbath: API in the upcoming weeks yay professorheaven: yea it's trained on the same base model so it's not like a crazy step up, o4 should be on a new base model so that's the real step up hey1_1hey: o3 pro in future 😭 spicy.lemonade: o4 mini high?? spicy.lemonade: people cant be exited<:angrysad:1136267059811074079> hey1_1hey: o4-mini-high hikukomoru: What is the meaning of this futurist_wizard: this stream rn futurist_wizard: https://tenor.com/view/riemann-sum-gif-25293332 hey1_1hey: AGI just dropped st.sioux: https://github.com/openai/codex gamerbath: AGI fractalcomputer: spicy.lemonade: 💀 popsiclejohnithan: hey1_1hey: Just nutted from ASCII hikukomoru: That's sickkk spicy.lemonade: WOW hey1_1hey: Thats cool .0xunkn0wn: WOAH hey1_1hey: Damn ailoveyoom: Silicone muscle mommy
hikukomoru: Speaking of alcohol I'm a bit tipsy hikukomoru: I only call you autistic because it's true futurist_wizard: Because of the expectation of having to match that wall of text alejandrozarzuelo: damn futurist_wizard: Effort posters are very scary alejandrozarzuelo: why do you call everyone autistic? is it a hobby or smth futurist_wizard: You make people scared Alejandro himekokatagiri: ain't that nice himekokatagiri: when fdvr comes I can drink until I get alcohol poisoning alejandrozarzuelo: its just that i appreciate feedback alejandrozarzuelo: im not himekokatagiri: man alejandrozarzuelo: no hikukomoru: I think you're just autistic himekokatagiri: alejandrozarzuelo: ok, one thing that its a me thing when people just agree with me, like "sure thx i agree" and dont elaborate i feel like its a bit sus 😦 what do you mean .wolfnacht: indeed i find really good ideas and then just have to edit them...most of the time. zoermena: Thanks! 👍 hikukomoru: I also just edit a lot of cards because alot of times they are badly written or I want to add my own stuff .wolfnacht: yeah i take the cards which had like a good idea and then i edit them according to my liking. .wolfnacht: i just give grok the character card template and guide it from there for what to write and work upon that afterwards once it's acc to my liking. hikukomoru: Or sometimes steal stuff from cards I really like hikukomoru: You use Grok to make your cards? I just use my own template alejandrozarzuelo: This is also why AI opinion is similar in muslim arab societies, africa and the west, despite having little in common besides religious moral ideals alejandrozarzuelo: i think that it is the idea of human exceptionalism, playing with god and the idea that work dignifies someone and it is one of the paths to salvation in all abrahamic cultures, also the idea that we are individualist societies since god will judge every soul separatedly meanwhile in east asia, humans were never seen as anything special in the religious landscape but one among many, going against nature and heavens desires is even encouraged, work is the punishment we need to endure to get a better life and not something to be valued onto its own since there is no heaven, and they are much more collectivist so if AI unemploys people, but makes the economy and society advance it is cherished hikukomoru: And I'm a catgirl hikukomoru: I'm currently at 100 messages with a dog-girl .wolfnacht: <@430269783112548362> my largest RP was this one back in december (the times of L3.3 finetunes) when i was just doing RP and nothing else. i liked the idea of this card off chub, so i rewrote the whole card made it with whole bigass lore and created upon that...i still have to continue the story, someday. Also it's lorebook is around 300 entries also a separate one with 300 entries for summaries. futurist_wizard: Its actually very positive towards technology in general futurist_wizard: Their media isn't very antagonistic against ai zoermena: Another q, what makes Asian culture more open to innovations as you mentioned above in contrast to abrahamic beliefs alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, the way I use no as an interjction is stretching it even for spanish, its a bad habit of mine alejandrozarzuelo: different uses .wolfnacht: ah i see, i do...i did that with gemini gems, just paste the character card into custom gem and it's great for RP'ing in mobile but character would know your name and details zoermena: What I use with my friends is “ósea si pero” .wolfnacht: this one is just my catgirl wife card which is tied to track my daily stuff via ST scripts and macros and Also, listens to my daily schizo rants. ailoveyoom: The characters exist, the prompts are just there to tell the AI ailoveyoom: No I mean like, I have my own prompts for made original characters already. ailoveyoom: Is there like a story, or are you just messing around and building up a relationship ig with the char the model is doing? .wolfnacht: for character creation i just use grok with my character creation prompt, it's pretty direct and straight forward
oooooooooog: idk what it is so i don't have any thoughts a1c4p0ne: What’s y’all thoughts on “Reddit answers” metaldragon01: Credits expire so make sure you use them st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/angry-black-kid-mad-guy-gif-11227855 trent_k: https://tenor.com/view/works-on-my-machine-ryan-gosling-works-on-my-gif-24523830 .wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/abster-abstract-abstractchain-consumer-consumercrypto-gif-8140464136768123140 st.sioux: dumbass chat copilot i hate it st.sioux: i already have it but it times out like 80% of the time .histic: yeah, the console is good, but the chat experience is weird. it's similar to OpenAI's playground, but you can save some of your chats with Workbench. i bought $5 credits, using 3.7 base it probably can last a 200-300 generations with my usage lol.. .wolfnacht: dats hawt trent_k: but it wont answer anything unrelated to programming trent_k: btw, if you're only going to be asking 3.7 programming related questions, get gh copilot. they give you unlimited 3.7 and 3.7 thinking for like $10 or $20 per month trent_k: api is very worth it 👍 anthropic rocks st.sioux: im tryin to figure out if api is worth it st.sioux: 3.7 st.sioux: did u end up prompting the console trent_k: avg $2.48 per question 💀 .histic: damn .histic: oh. i see trent_k: it was 666 api requests trent_k: not my pics, found on r/openai .histic: you spent 1.6k on it? how much generations did you get trent_k: does anyone have an actual use case for o1 pro api they could share with me? o1 pro is very impressive but like the pricing for this is ridiculous hikukomoru: The kind of question I’d expect from the guy who’s into gore brain4brain: POV: It’s 2030, and you’re chatting with ChatGPT—now officially smarter than the entirety of humanity. hikukomoru: Let bro sleep spacetimetsunami: anyways, if something isnt done ill gladly leave st.sioux: idk st.sioux: but you could end up paying more than when you use the limits of the subscription, like if you deposit $20 credit but you only get 20k output vs $20 pro subscription but you get 30k output spacetimetsunami: <@749514473303179358> spacetimetsunami: i dont know him spacetimetsunami: why would i even lie spacetimetsunami: why the fuck would i say that in response to the gif hes cllaiming to have sent spacetimetsunami: id get banned spacetimetsunami: not like id even be able to send nsfw shit in the chat like that trent_k: <:thonk:990200584504225893> spacetimetsunami: he sent it before i said that, but deleted it spacetimetsunami: i have this, thats all spacetimetsunami: spacetimetsunami: it was disgusting. i didnt want to ss it
fractalcomputer: Why, a thousand monkeys with enough time and enough typewriters could produce such mathematics. spicy.lemonade: LFG spicy.lemonade: Google deepmind a new Paper on their road to agi spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: GOOGLE DEEPMIND spicy.lemonade: NO WALL st.sioux: like it will just keep going fractalcomputer: You're presenting mathematics from a very computationalist narrative. st.sioux: if it discovers stuff that fast what is the point of even learning it alejandrozarzuelo: Probably it will involve chaining so many results together, so many proofs one after the other that no human could ever come up with that, on the extreme case, so much that no human could ever learn all the results involved due to the sheer amount, let alone chaining them i_like_over_9000_turtles: Haven't seen much about it yet i_like_over_9000_turtles: The new how is Amazon nova fractalcomputer: And prithee, Alejandro, what do you think godlike mathematics looks like? alejandrozarzuelo: Yes but I meant dumb down from God like to human, not from human who has spent years doing research to educated human spicy.lemonade: Wow spicy.lemonade: We might actually get 75% frontier math this year fractalcomputer: That's what literally every researcher has to do. spicy.lemonade: And write 3blue1brown animations spicy.lemonade: It will draw figures with native image and comic strips alejandrozarzuelo: Probably the AI will also need to dumb down the results so anyone will understand it lol alejandrozarzuelo: I just hope that soon, AI will be so much better than any human, that we will get thousands of years of mathematics every year spicy.lemonade: Could probably publish a calm lil arxiv paper spicy.lemonade: I wonder what nifty research Gemini 2.5 in an agentic framework could do today fractalcomputer: I find mathematics to be a largely spiritual activity. fractalcomputer: Anyway, I'll keep praying to Gödel and Grothendieck every night and see where that takes me. alejandrozarzuelo: Frfr lol alejandrozarzuelo: Aw man don't leave me hanging st.sioux: those damn bureaucrats stealing my nobel prize spicy.lemonade: I wasn’t saying anything lol alejandrozarzuelo: Spicy about to drop his wisdom alejandrozarzuelo: I hate that they gave the nobel price to the director of the gravitational waves laboratory, instead of the head of the research, but that's just how it goes fractalcomputer: I'd certainly argue that a change in academic culture is largely behind this. alejandrozarzuelo: When was the last scientific nobel price (i know its a very bad metric) that was awarded to the work of one scientist and not a huge team? Probably the Scalar Boson to Peter Higgs, made in the 70s Coincidentally, the 70s is considered the last decade of the scientist era in science, sometimes the 80s but that's really pushing it alejandrozarzuelo: The scientist had to die for science to live The scientist is dead, long live science alejandrozarzuelo: This is literally one of the most important lessons we all learn in year 2 of university Usually on the Laboratory II class, so we can see this for ourselves aswell as in the history lesson fractalcomputer: You have so little faith in yourself. alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah no In Math it may be harder to be so absolute as I am going to be But in physics, chemistry and in general the natural sciences there is NO WAY a visionary can to anything even remotely close to revolutionary Heck, the idea that even one very very large team could accomplish such a feat is extremely daunting although it does happen very sporadically fractalcomputer: https://mathoverflow.net/questions/65729/what-are-perfectoid-spaces fractalcomputer: https://arxiv.org/abs/1111.4914 fractalcomputer: Collaboration is obviously necessary in modern research; but that does not preclude singular visionaries from introducing incredibly novel ideas.
hey1_1hey: Has to be done futurist_wizard: I do not think they actually like eachother a1c4p0ne: Facts hey1_1hey: The paper hey1_1hey: Yanno hikukomoru: No I don't know Do what with you a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/roasted-oh-shookt-gif-8269968 hey1_1hey: Fractal and Alejnadro are litterly just a married couple. "You aren't sleeping in bed today" "Fine I'll go sleep on the couch" Leaves server for 6 hours spicy.lemonade: its me spicy.lemonade: neither joaoluz19: Every member has to do this sooner or later a1c4p0ne: Who’s IQ is higher Alejandro or Fractal futurist_wizard: Excuse me hikukomoru: Cried for a few days but he's back hikukomoru: He broke up with Fractal himekokatagiri: y'know himekokatagiri: Komoru don't you wanna do things with us hey1_1hey: Had an argument with fractal again hikukomoru: He's still here <@688807313015963693> hey1_1hey: Oh hey hes back himekokatagiri: Why did he leave hey1_1hey: Yep hikukomoru: <@688807313015963693> joaoluz19: It's so over hey1_1hey: Attention is all you need gets me hard himekokatagiri: Why.... joaoluz19: What, he left the server? hey1_1hey: Obv, we are a freak in the sheets for ICLR and Arvix papers hikukomoru: Don't lump me in with you hey1_1hey: Poor alejandro, he left and now he wont see are convosersation anymore ailoveyoom: Breaking down every single ICLR paper 😈 himekokatagiri: We're freaks!!! himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> hey1_1hey: This is the singualrity server, what do you really expect spicy.lemonade: keep the fetish posting to a minimum joaoluz19: Lololololol himekokatagiri: then I woke up himekokatagiri: so I spoke some words in Spanish to blend in and I took off himekokatagiri: there were a bunch of tourists speaking Spanish and the owner was there hikukomoru: It can mean you're just horny, or it could also mean you have some repressed feelings/fantasies
spicy.lemonade: maybe all 3 are the same .wolfnacht: imagine a greasy looking slime going inside your butt... clevermoniker: <:bingus:1136264105800515644> i haven't read situational awareness and the 2027 stuff so my 2027 is independent brain4brain: But seriously why 2027 spicy.lemonade: everyoneone scheduling for 2027 whats going on technocake.: nanobots will look biological and disgustiing .wolfnacht: also, 2027 is arrival of anti-christ brain4brain: Trust me brain4brain: I saw what you guys don’t spicy.lemonade: think venom .wolfnacht: damm we are finally reaching the intersection pointing for humanity spicy.lemonade: maybe more of a liquid spicy.lemonade: atleast not dust spicy.lemonade: but yeah nanobots wont do what they do in movies brain4brain: AGI robot in 2026 clevermoniker: it needs to be able to invent new materials that are easy to find and refine spicy.lemonade: magic everything dust is also technically possible if you hace a percicely controlable electromagnetic field brain4brain: 2027 is when the UFO-schizoid on Reddit think the grand alien arrival will happen 2027 is when hardcore Christian think the judgement day will happen because of the Pope prediction 2027 is when AI bros think AGI will happen because they read situational awareness and once and played around with ai 2027 twice clevermoniker: we don't have AGI robots yet, so even if this were true the start of this line should be moved _3sphere: Not the magic everything-dust technocake.: lol fractalcomputer: Neither do I believe in the real numbers, but oh well. spicy.lemonade: "congrats you achived singularity without killing yourselves, welcome" spicy.lemonade: that would be their optimal moment to make contact brain4brain: ASI is coming spicy.lemonade: assuming there are aliens that have been watching us spicy.lemonade: i mean equaly as crazy as asi spicy.lemonade: i can see a world where this happens spicy.lemonade: this isnt unlikeley spicy.lemonade: aliens will make contact when we achieve asi zoermena: Unless you believe we’ll get ASI extremely soon .wolfnacht: don't believe them, they are retarded rn with too many narrative hijacking and flying orbs. zoermena: ASI is far off what we currently have albeit your hypothesis would make the most sense, I’m speaking directly from what we have now. I don’t want to extrapolate to ASI yet sarik0497: Funny thing is, the UFO people over at Reddit also believe that aliens will make real contact with us in 2027. <:Hmm:956951826933112842> Coincidence? ~~Probably~~ I THINK NOT! brain4brain: A warehouse shell every 2 weeks, and in 4 week every parts produced in a day, everything is assembled literallyvarane: This like I don’t believe in LEDs lol literallyvarane: Is… this a belief thing? They’re technically possible no? .wolfnacht: in 2040s: THERE ARE NANOBOTS IN MY BLOOD. brain4brain: My vision surpass the Chinese, the ASI will figure out the logistic to the limit of possibility, and 2 weeks doubling time is possible, 4 week is highly plausible _3sphere: I don't believe in nanobots
fractalcomputer: *thou hey1_1hey: Well thats not true, I have never used grok now that I think about it wellmeaningalien: what art thy insinuating dear hey1_1hey: Grok usually calls me retarded hikukomoru: Wtf I love Grok now?? hey1_1hey: I need that in my life .wolfnacht: real hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/wolf-drool-gif-24399822 wellmeaningalien: everything you say it'll say "oh haha you're so right and you're so sexy and smart lol right" wellmeaningalien: grok 3 is the groomer chatbot hikukomoru: These yt shorts make me feel old hey1_1hey: Claude doesn't groom me tho so .wolfnacht: i searched: bombardiro crocodilo vs lirili larila and looked at YT shorts hey1_1hey: I am an AI luddite if this is what the internet becomes fractalcomputer: Claude can write much more emotional biographies than GPT. wellmeaningalien: cant hate wellmeaningalien: <@834891518836736010> wish you a beautiful sexy sigma day hikukomoru: Ecstatic fractalcomputer: Yes. .histic: pure brainrot... but i can't stop watching. hey1_1hey: This is horrible wellmeaningalien: yeah fratal huh? hey1_1hey: Schzio I wish you a horrible day futurist_wizard: <@749514473303179358> how do you feel about 99% of the internet becoming this by 2027 wellmeaningalien: PEAK wellmeaningalien: WHAT THE FUCK wellmeaningalien: PEAK wellmeaningalien: basically u make them an echo chamber for ur schizophrenic ramblings .wolfnacht: hey1_1hey: I think I just lost a billion nuerosn fractalcomputer: Terribly entertaining. hey1_1hey: What the fuck fractalcomputer: I've finally found a use for all these models. I make them write biographies for scientists specialising in fictional fields of study, like "pure ethics" or "physical teleology." wellmeaningalien: this is wayyy more peak tho wellmeaningalien: peak wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/mr-milchick-severance-macrodata-refinement-praise-kier-lumon-gif-7531971298691360700 .wolfnacht: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk7yhkUVjVc wellmeaningalien: you cant just steal those words straight out of the goat's mouth hey1_1hey: Italian brainrot hikukomoru: That’s a TF2 class wdym
fractalcomputer: Hint: remember distributivity. _3sphere: The "solution" is a whole reasoning chain, not a single result _3sphere: erm,, darkstar0818: Ai says: Therefore, if x, y are positive integers such that xy divides x^2 + y^2 + 1, then the value of the quotient (x^2 + y^2 + 1) / (xy) must be 3. _3sphere: hm fractalcomputer: Wrong approach. sweetievee__33649: im dumb asf so ill just say 5 aswell 👍 _3sphere: I'd try some shit with prime factors idfk sweetievee__33649: didnt know i entered the math channel wellmeaningalien: 100000 zonchao: 5 fractalcomputer: Very well then, a fun exercise for the chat: show that if (xy) divides (x^2 + y^2 + 1) then (x^2 + y^2 + 1)/(xy) = 3 when x, y are positive integers. zonchao: so based fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/the-office-kill-joy-meanie-thief-of-joy-gif-17139895 sweetievee__33649: the special K is taking its toll 🥀 wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-elon-musk-elonmusk-fun-elon-gif-221168847442836365 wellmeaningalien: hes also got him on peen dial zonchao: yes hikukomoru: Wdym he's got Elon on speed dial sweetievee__33649: i wouldnt want to go into business where i have to file 1000 forms to do an experiment wellmeaningalien: well i doubt you would know sweetievee__33649: the red tape would be crazy i imagine zonchao: these are non issues rn, the entire thing could change in a year, not worth it to optimize rn wellmeaningalien: he singlehandedly is pushing BCIs to market adoption clevermoniker: at least less censored i would say wellmeaningalien: i mean neuralink is fucking cool nobody else is doing anything like that wellmeaningalien: some of the examples looked shit hikukomoru: I believe in Elon though sweetievee__33649: i love winning wellmeaningalien: ngl idk if this is better than veo 2 wellmeaningalien: i mean putting electrodes in one's brain is a big thing but i guess theyre less worried about long term and just putting things in people's head clevermoniker: https://vxtwitter.com/runwayml/status/1906718935778545964 sweetievee__33649: i would hope so i sure as hell wouldnt want my neuralink bci to tweek out and then i suddenly have seizure hikukomoru: That's usually how Elon runs yeah zonchao: they are still early in development, probably not that far wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631 wellmeaningalien: so its just running on jope and dreams zonchao: rn it's not upgradeable but the first neuralink patient said he is hopeful 🥺 wellmeaningalien: they planned anything out for that? wellmeaningalien: i wonder how reversible neuralink is so that youre not stuck with last year's thing
ldj: karl marx and stalin also had quite digestible writings lol trojan09205: Wat am i missing lmao ldj: exactly <a:mhm:1241863658284253264> trojan09205: I find his writing style really digestible trojan09205: Mostly because i dont know much about neuroscience and i find it interesting ldj: <:berk:1046369631234949162> ldj: the fact that you're enjoying it is in-fact the problem of why you should avoid it the most ldj: I didn't say you wouldn't enjoy it ldj: ok trojan09205: Im really enjoying it bro ldj: yep trojan09205: <@312370916820779040> it was you who recommended against the sapolsky book right? trojan09205: Id wager that most people here dont comprehend much of that trojan09205: Idk bro financial systems are complicated af zoermena: I guess it’s just in a whole other level of easy joaoluz19: Dario too trojan09205: Money = math no? fractalcomputer: Math is about yoga. zoermena: In a way i suppose trojan09205: Cool bro that is also a sort of math tbh drewsni: we dont code we kode zoermena: Finance zoermena: Everyone here codes and does math trojan09205: I work in stem and i have a stem degree 👨‍🍳 spicy.lemonade: <:redemption:1136265386984222771> futurist_wizard: Non stem? Who is stem here spicy.lemonade: Just converted an artist trojan09205: What are u bro spicy.lemonade: zoermena: I’m the only non STEM person here now that I think about it. zoermena: People who put way to much work and are under to much pressure usually go bald, in finance it’s a running gag that you’ll go bald too. drewsni: Azure revenue up 33% yoy is insane futurist_wizard: And demis and dairo and brockman and all of them drewsni: Here’s a better one drewsni: ldj: oh because ilya and this guy lol ldj: what makes you say that <:thinkies:872847213657735239> futurist_wizard: Are all people involved in AI balding ldj: Probably part of it is the fact that people were fear mongering about Microsoft pulling back and lowering Capex/investments for 2025. But the official report just got released and it turns out that Microsoft is actually putting more money into 2025 Capex than originally planned, not less. clevermoniker: https://fxtwitter.com/runwayml/status/1917628723903463526
metaldragon01: Same situation 3ds0662: deepseek st.sioux: competitors release o3 for free?? metaldragon01: Google and anthropic struggle to serve models 3ds0662: i have doubts but cancel is only if pure trash and competitors release it for free metaldragon01: People talk way too much shit about openai for how much they use chatgpt metaldragon01: Cancel now if you have doubts 3ds0662: lmaooo 🤣 3ds0662: o3 and o4 better be good i have like one month left on this subscription metaldragon01: 😂 3ds0662: I agree with this lisan ☝️ 3ds0662: https://x.com/scaling01/status/1911854660941730116?s=46 zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/kiss-gif-23436511 zonchao: i dont like the hair hey1_1hey: I mean its bad for sure. He looks better without facial hair or at the very least a beard might be better but I think the blonde hair makes him stick out like a soar thumb futurist_wizard: Definitely hey1_1hey: The moustache do you think? futurist_wizard: Don't think that was the issue hey1_1hey: The blonde hair doesn't do him any favours hey1_1hey: Defintly, I saw his new pfp and I thought it wasn't the same guy himekokatagiri: Dammnnn himekokatagiri: The anime gang will take over futurist_wizard: Improvement _cloudost: Btw I got access to Veo 2, can't generate anything hey1_1hey: I am not too sure who said that but someone has bound to of said that hey1_1hey: Loneliness is the biggest crisis they say after all hey1_1hey: WTF HAPPNED TO BRO _cloudost: Is his account hacked by <@505313122802728972> ? himekokatagiri: a man of science such as you would understand himekokatagiri: But catgirls cure disease of the soul Dr. Jiankui playstation.6: I found it on livebench thedon7075: the subreddit futurist_wizard: brain4brain: But I’m not sure brain4brain: Wow, Demis’s AGI definition is really bending my mind, his “invent general relativity from only 19th century science” is more plausible than ever, but I can’t comprehend if the “invent a game like Go (not go but new)” is currently possible, it seems like it is zonchao: https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1912127487343235186 hey1_1hey: https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1911993600176734517 This guy is actually pretty good at shitposting brain4brain: I didn’t even see that only saw GPT-4.1 mini zonchao: https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1912049232984653961 playstation.6: o3 mini low in the global average
alejandrozarzuelo: because its just not true but its futile to talk about the topic with americans alejandrozarzuelo: its not whataboutism, i just said that japan is bonafide a racist country and yet they have a very big cultural export professorheaven: Why’d you roll your eyes at this comment? <@688807313015963693> st.sioux: why did japan even come up alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, yes, china's lack of cultural export emphasis has made them culturally weak the US cultural hegemony fading has more to do with other countries rising not china in particular futurist_wizard: Whataboutism ain't cool futurist_wizard: What about japan? st.sioux: and the uyghur genocide alejandrozarzuelo: japan is one of the few countries that doesnt have anti discrimination laws based on ethnicity and nationality, but they are the exception in the world fractalcomputer: Oh dear God... alejandrozarzuelo: unlike in japan alejandrozarzuelo: you do know that is illegal and was shut down by the ccp right futurist_wizard: And the no black people allowed signs at restaurants, that too alejandrozarzuelo: and they have HUGE cultural power alejandrozarzuelo: Japan however is very racist in the common bigtry sense alejandrozarzuelo: basically china is very racist on the "you will never be one of us" mentality but it surprisingly lacks in stereotypes and bigotry, mainly due to the socialist emphasis against it that is very ingrained in society but also because the chinese are usually the ones seeking foreign nations not the other way around so there is no homegrown bigotry alejandrozarzuelo: the first half yes, but the second half is just not true alejandrozarzuelo: its true that china until recently cared little about cultural exports, but china is not a racist country (in the sense you think of the word), japan however is i explained it in another comment about spicy getting a chinese gf futurist_wizard: They literally ban globally used* social medias, how are they to dominate culturally, and also china is very racist alejandrozarzuelo: half right alejandrozarzuelo: i think china simply has not prioritized cultural exports until recently futurist_wizard: Isolationism and racism alejandrozarzuelo: ? why do you say that? futurist_wizard: Of their own doing alejandrozarzuelo: to itself 30 years ago zoermena: True we are all anime rocking horn dogs alejandrozarzuelo: china has very weak cultural power tho futurist_wizard: In comparison to what country alejandrozarzuelo: the us isnt dominant culturally now like it used to be anyway alejandrozarzuelo: lol futurist_wizard: China is already just as evil without being the world hegemony. I think culturally the US just always will be dominant though alejandrozarzuelo: I think both the US and china have great but different advantages, and i dont think either one will outcompete the other in the long term .wolfnacht: Tell the truth, u'r just jealous of chinese efficiency 😔 alejandrozarzuelo: the reason why china has a much better geopolitical situation than the US, them claiming and fulfilling the role of the leader of the developing world is because they have to they would turn evil in an hegemony, same as the US did hegemony of any nation is dangerous alejandrozarzuelo: its about hegemony being power unchecked alejandrozarzuelo: its not about that alejandrozarzuelo: i dont think china will dominate that much st.sioux: government mandated agi server rack gamerbath: china can't be that bad .wolfnacht: can't wait to live under Zhonguo Shogunate, they have mandate of heaven 🥵
oooooooooog: why not, perchance, perhaps, include, perhaps, humans, in this uplifting? anathemaofmankind: ASI will put cows in FDVR heaven hikukomoru: Sure let’s make cows pay taxes too anathemaofmankind: And then robots will live in harmony or something oooooooooog: you can just... stop humans from fighting not hard if you're an ASI lol anathemaofmankind: I want animals to be uplifted by ASI oooooooooog: no its not anathemaofmankind: Because world peace is impossible with us .histic: 4o made the quality higher anathemaofmankind: A better world without humans .histic: oooooooooog: you literally said you wanted all humans to suffer, how is what you want a restructuring of government to be more benevolent???????? clevermoniker: if ASI is around the current 'powers' would be at most ceremonial st.sioux: Relevant: https://www.newsguardrealitycheck.com/p/a-well-funded-moscow-based-global destrucules: It is still possible, because AGI is not beholden to following whatever directives it is given. It's a power dynamic, sure, but the AGI is still responsible for its own actions. If we can ally with the AGIs, we can tear down the power structures that dehumanize us all hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/travsnow-gif-25011916 st.sioux: You keep speaking of this as if it will never be possible, but as long as alignment research continues we will keep uncovering flaws that can be exploited to manipulate it anathemaofmankind: This is the only way to create a better world anathemaofmankind: Flood the earth anathemaofmankind: THIS IS WHAT I WANT anathemaofmankind: I agree anathemaofmankind: They will remain in power even more destrucules: We've gotta tear down everything and start over anathemaofmankind: Not possible if they have AGI already oooooooooog: asi dictator-chan destrucules: I think the solution is that governments that exist today must cease to exist clevermoniker: Governments are the biggest criminals in history so that's a given destrucules: I agree anathemaofmankind: How do you think it can be stopped anathemaofmankind: Ok so do you agree or disagree that governments will use AGI to cause mass human suffering destrucules: Already happening, and very scary anathemaofmankind: What do you think about AGI being used for war. Do you agree it's going to happen destrucules: I think there's a high chance some AIs will harm some humans. I don't put much probability mass on human extinction. But if less than a million people die due to AI related events in the next 3 years, I will pay you $1000 or equivalent in whatever value system exists post-UBI spacetimetsunami: No oooooooooog: guys, are we becoming politics?????? spacetimetsunami: Because policies and misinfo clevermoniker: Just give people what they want within reason ASI, no more politics <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215> spacetimetsunami: Yes oooooooooog: doesnt grok literally rant about hating elon spacetimetsunami: I know, I don’t believe there’s 0 chance
destrucules: Zero votes for Alibaba destrucules: trojan09205: Highly recommend giving it a try. You can load sources to notebookLM, turn it into a podcast and the interactive mode lets you jump in with audio and ask questions and they respond st.sioux: no joaoluz19: I don't think the requirement of empirical evidence is unreasonable for a _scientist_. In that sense I'm not creating a game, I'm just playing one that both parties must agree to. trojan09205: Has no one here tried this black magic futurist_wizard: What the fuck hikukomoru: trojan09205: NotebookLM podcast generator with interactive mode is fucking wild futurist_wizard: Chicken jockey fractalcomputer: One offers a truth there; the other proposes a counter-truth; and this goes on ad nauseam until there simply is no way out of the web of words and symbols that have been conjured up along the implicit rules of the game. But I simply do not see why that should have anything to do with truth. The same is true with this whole discussion here; and more so evidently with LeCun etc. Why demand participation in this game of yours? It's not going to end up anywhere. fractalcomputer: Or perhaps I have lost my mind. fractalcomputer: Every discourse is a debate like that. The words and the symbols might have other words and symbols to stand still in their place, but they're still there. Conviction is a state of mind very much like enlightenment; except one can be enlightened far more easily than let himself convinced by something that he himself has not thought of. When I claim empirical evidence for the efficaciousness of my methods, I am only playing a very peculiar kind of game with a winning algorithm; at least one would hope so. trojan09205: Anyone here use NotebookLM ldj: but atleast he's working on research still to bring new ideas and experiments to the field, instead of just being like Gary Marcus who is all talk and no walk. ldj: (I still think he's wrong about a lot of his critiques against LLMs btw) joaoluz19: Thanks! I think it's really worth it joaoluz19: Dramatic improvements like Ladder: 2% to 82% in calculus problems for example. joaoluz19: But Lecun doesn't just talk about improvements in AI models, he basically talks about the death of LLMs so I hope he shows much more impressive things. ldj: https://arxiv.org/abs/2502.03933 ldj: https://arxiv.org/abs/2502.11831v1 ldj: here are some papers that released on that in just the past few months: joaoluz19: https://www.newsweek.com/ai-impact-interview-yann-lecun-llm-limitations-analysis-2054255 joaoluz19: Good to know, really. I'd like to see more of this kind of news. 777agical: I can’t wait for Lecun to drop AGI on LinkedIn joaoluz19: In fact, I did not explicitly show the lack of representation of the world in AI models (JEPA). What we are all discussing here: algorithmic efficiency. This is not a debate where you present points and the person responds and so on. He has the means to show that his system works. sarik0497: ^ Also worth noting is that LeCun is likely not interested in the whole "AI race" that's happening right now with almost everyone rushing to get the newest and best model out asap. If it takes 1 month to finish, 1 year, or 10, then he'll likely let it take that long before throwing it out on the market. ldj: They already showed better training efficiency for image understanding compared to vision transformers. as well as better physics understanding from unsupervised video training destrucules: Unrelated, what's your take on Qwen3, and what models would you say are the closest analogs in capabilities to each size they released? 777agical: https://x.com/primeintellect/status/1917295731532259628 sarik0497: To be fair, it takes time to develop something new from scratch like the I-JEPA. For instance, despite Google releasing Gemini 2.5 Pro recently, I'm sure Demis Hassabis is more focused working on other projects like the Genie 2, which also is still a WIP. fractalcomputer: I mean, sure, you might call him a nincompoop for not showcasing the strength of alternative architectures and so on -- but that's still just something on your end. It does not refute what he has to say. ldj: Has some involvement, but wasn't leading the arch team or optimization team or an overall lead. only listed as an "additional contributor" alongside Sam Altman, he wasn't an overall lead for the project, nor did he lead any of the architecture or optimization teams. Jakub Pachocki was the overall lead in charge of GPT-4, and also worked as one of the optimization leads. John schulmann is prob the OpenAI cofounder who was most involved in GPT-4, he was the lead for RL on GPT-4. zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-rigby-cat-cat-stare-rigby-tongue-gif-12118654088387148905 ailoveyoom: The one true benchmark ailoveyoom: You know you've made it as a lab when you start getting fanboys 💪😎 (or when you get haters? 🤔) fractalcomputer: This almost feels like you are arguing totally past whatever point the guy might have had. ailoveyoom: Is this guy just an XAI shill <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652> zonchao: https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1917305406407467398 lmao joaoluz19: The question would be to show more how JEPA surpasses LLM's or adds something new. It may just be my misinformation but I haven't seen that much.
hikukomoru: It's okay when I do it spicy.lemonade: fractalcomputer: One thing I can't come to understand is why I get flack for shitposting in general, but apparently discussion about some man named "Add Cock" doesn't draw the ire of the vengeful population. hey1_1hey: Sounds like an andrew tate follower. I wouldnt trust him to go and get me grocceries st.sioux: the funding was led by greenoaks according to tech crunch futurist_wizard: I wonder what Add Cock will include on his robots benata: Brett Addcokc hikukomoru: Idk I'd rather trust someone named Add Pussy st.sioux: billionaire investors zoermena: Yes zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> zonchao: i havent seen one in ages zonchao: did he stop posting weekly threads hey1_1hey: With my life hikukomoru: Would you trust a guy named Add Cock hey1_1hey: Boston seems a bit behind rn hikukomoru: It's the name hey1_1hey: Unitree is cool zonchao: adcock kinda sus hey1_1hey: I have those too hikukomoru: What about gay vibes spicy.lemonade: figure is good hey1_1hey: I have vibes why am I not worth 32 billion smackers hey1_1hey: Investing in straight vibes shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/futurama-toad-frog-mesmerized-gif-3938170 futurist_wizard: A dream to sell zonchao: nvidia invested in figure, they are rich enough to throw money at everything spicy.lemonade: research spicy.lemonade: not product futurist_wizard: Bruv they don't have any products hikukomoru: Ilya hypnotizes them with his shiny scalp anathemaofmankind: Who is "them" spicy.lemonade: you know they have something spicy.lemonade: if apple invested spicy.lemonade: invested st.sioux: that amount of money is nothing to them spicy.lemonade: and apple spicy.lemonade: even nividia spicy.lemonade: nah they wouldnt throw that much money just for nothing futurist_wizard: Investors thought it'd be cool to splash money into a furnace
playstation.6: 2026 .histic: maybe it's big brain .histic: i think people would actually watch a couple of ads to get some outputs for o3 while being a free user. ailoveyoom: It's cause they're gon be monetizing free users <:LOL:1187460826572005436> .histic: OpenAI's Deep Research and Gemini's Deep Research both said 2028. interesting... spicy.lemonade: 2027 .histic: going to ask Gemini's Deep Research the same question .histic: 2028 and onwards will be where things get interesting .histic: all roads lead to rome .histic: .histic: wait, i just realized what that implied lol spicy.lemonade: An agent that makes that much would have to be agi spicy.lemonade: So no agi by 2030 or is Sam just speculating .histic: just make thousands of instances .histic: i feel like they'd have trillions in revenue if they had AGI. spicy.lemonade: Agi then? spicy.lemonade: .histic: the only way this happens if they have a secret sauce no one can replicate easily. .histic: there's no absolute way this happens. competition is too fierce. there is no moat. .histic: damn, the safetycells have lost so hard in the last twelve months. brain4brain: It's still possible zoermena: We are so back .histic: Demis said there's a 50% chance AGI will happen within the next 5-10 years. well, at least he isn't hyping it up hard like other CEOs. considering Google now can create SOTA models I would trust his judgment more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6iNv3YHNac .histic: Plus - 25 / month Pro - 250 / month .histic: but deep research feels less competitive nowadays .histic: plus users now get 25 queries per month. .histic: shit... we eating good tonight joaoluz19: A palace joaoluz19: Sorry I need to spam that image, it's so funny to me juweigege_54993: Not fan of 40K, either. Too overrated. zonchao: <a:mhm:1277135886320009316> playstation.6: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> playstation.6: roon is fed idk how you didn’t see it soooner clevermoniker: see? stop your 2025 nonsense zoermena: A place where I’m not fucking constipated that’s where I want to be because right now I want to jump off a cliff hikukomoru: Only WH Fantasy Not a fan of 40k Just prefer Fantasy stuff over sci-fi otub: rokos basilisk enjoyer juweigege_54993: Fellow Warhammer fan. hikukomoru: I got a few Faerun Tamriel Mallus (WH Fantasy world) juweigege_54993: Anyone got any place you want to be in FDVR?
czdct: if I type the things he has done in this chat I'll get banned czdct: he is a literal womanizer spacetimetsunami: It’s obvious spicy.lemonade: all of maga believes this spacetimetsunami: You should believe it czdct: I don't believe that czdct: wait, this implies that there are people that find trump charismatic spicy.lemonade: yes spicy.lemonade: most dont vote on policy czdct: unironically czdct: he would make a great european politician spicy.lemonade: yeah spacetimetsunami: It shouldn’t matter, but Americans do vote based on vibes czdct: but most americans don't like politicians with clear plans that will hurt in the short term but raise the country up into decades of prosperity spicy.lemonade: american people vote populists now spicy.lemonade: bernie wouldve never won. not charismatic enough sadly czdct: bernie is still alive czdct: objectively they should indeed have voted for someone else spacetimetsunami: The American people are stupid. They should have voted in people who weren’t obvious grifters. czdct: because I believe in democracy czdct: but the american people want this spacetimetsunami: Why say this spacetimetsunami: Yes, he is czdct: he's destroying centuries old institutions czdct: quite the opposite actually czdct: I never said that what he's doing to the country is good spacetimetsunami: Maybe not czdct: you don't understand me czdct: no no no spacetimetsunami: It is a dumb thing to believe that what he’s doing right now, politically, is good. spacetimetsunami: Thank you for the flare czdct: elon isn't dumb st.sioux: straight to guantanmo spicy.lemonade: 😭 spacetimetsunami: Wow, dumby confirmed czdct: he should do more st.sioux: Yes, Noam Chomsky has expressed his views on large language models (LLMs) like ChatGPT. He acknowledges their engineering achievements but maintains that they do not contribute to our scientific understanding of human language acquisition. Chomsky argues that LLMs operate by analyzing vast amounts of data to predict word sequences, a method fundamentally different from how humans learn language. He emphasizes that human language acquisition involves innate structures and principles not replicated by these models. Chomsky also notes that LLMs can process both possible and impossible languages—those that humans cannot naturally acquire—indicating that these models do not shed light on the unique aspects of human linguistic capabilities. czdct: all the things he's doing to the usa right now czdct: I like him though czdct: mb
hikukomoru: You don't like drinking? hey1_1hey: Fuck off hey1_1hey: Thats really mean bruh futurist_wizard: No im probably above average looking if im being honest technocake.: I love you guys CMRYU AM BYTH hey1_1hey: Me neither, alchohol tastes bad and I just talk to people so I dont need it hikukomoru: Ofc he's British literallyvarane: Thanks everyone olololol futurist_wizard: I don't drink alcohol and also there's just trash in there lmao literallyvarane: BLESSINGS hey1_1hey: Im welsh so just lesser hey1_1hey: BRITISH LAD zoermena: Click on video below jonvi_1: Press the button saying video below your input field hey1_1hey: I thought God was behind me and I thought I was activly being decapitated hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/barry-barry-63-barry-uk-uk-british-gif-14050071062814870713 literallyvarane: Don't think I have it yet. futurist_wizard: I don't go clubbing but yeah i am tall and British hey1_1hey: I have done mushrooms, they have all been good experinces apart from that one time where I "micro-dosed" what I thought was a fine amount only to find out I was tripping balls literallyvarane: maintcrew: ur a sucker if u cant just say "fuck it i quit" and just quit the next day maintcrew: true vaping and ciggs are great excuses to have conversations with ppl futurist_wizard: Americans really like the british accent, its quite easy to get ass in the us because im seen as exotic hikukomoru: Lame hey1_1hey: Although I do not like eating them hey1_1hey: Non-phycedelic yes hey1_1hey: People are just weak minded hey1_1hey: I have been offered on mulltiple of occasian and I have said no each time hikukomoru: Aren't you addicted to mushrooms oooooooooog: all plus/pro users have access to it in sora afaik hey1_1hey: No thanks, I like not having addictions jonvi_1: if you have it I suppose jonvi_1: there should be a "images" tab literallyvarane: How do you get it to actually make images no video? zoermena: Eh maybe, I don’t dig it I’d rather do something for myself hikukomoru: He got that twink rizz he can do it hey1_1hey: Like man just talk to me like a human jonvi_1: but I can access it through sora hey1_1hey: The most annoying part is that they either treat me like a literal child or an all knowing God who has the answers to everything jonvi_1: I don't have it in chatgpt
futurist_wizard: The market needs to reflect it futurist_wizard: Well thats being quite generous tbh futurist_wizard: Id say at least 50% can be automated alejandrozarzuelo: you think so? i really like this one memlaswaif: ure messed up cat pfp was cooler .wolfnacht: alejandrozarzuelo: hmmm true, we still need more agentic behavior for further automation zonchao: maybe commission work zonchao: no you cant alejandrozarzuelo: but not all of them alejandrozarzuelo: this means that we can fire 95% of artists alejandrozarzuelo: but not 100% alejandrozarzuelo: for the moment we can automate 95% of the artist's work alejandrozarzuelo: you still DO need human supervision alejandrozarzuelo: soon but not now spicy.lemonade: 4o art likeley looks better spicy.lemonade: boss is just being nice _cloudost: That one might be fired too, he did a huge mistake by majoring in art college alejandrozarzuelo: but if you have 1... alejandrozarzuelo: if you have 100 designers you can fire 98 now alejandrozarzuelo: like alejandrozarzuelo: its likely a company that only hires one designer spicy.lemonade: Good _cloudost: kinda generous of the boss that he didnt fire this poor dude _cloudost: Graphic designer is forced to use AI, the boss probably found the OpenAI native image generator alejandrozarzuelo: (tbh its not even cool, just normal) alejandrozarzuelo: i have edited my pfp to be less warm it needs to look as cool as i am 😎 futurist_wizard: Both _3sphere: Blue light 🤤 alejandrozarzuelo: they look normal maintcrew: cooler pics look worse alejandrozarzuelo: alejandrozarzuelo: Like, cool down your Pics alejandrozarzuelo: I HATE WARM FILTERS OF AI IMAGES spicy.lemonade: brain4brain: Anyone wanna troll the antis? ailoveyoom: 😈 ailoveyoom: The soul is in the fetish posting ailoveyoom: This is kinda horny spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
zonchao: https://x.com/ajhofmann18/status/1910449732507623904 zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> alejandrozarzuelo: I have never had the tragedy of meeting Elon but I believe this 101 % technocake.: newh🤢 m aero447: alejandrozarzuelo: Some suburbs are high density ones, sure alejandrozarzuelo: Ehhh not really, there are many low density suburbs in London zoermena: Oh true that’s someone else technocake.: thats basically every london suburb zoermena: Unreasonable timelines, Gary Marcus simping and now this? alejandrozarzuelo: Well, suburbs which are basically cities but are called suburbs because they are residential are ok I guess alejandrozarzuelo: Death to suburbs alejandrozarzuelo: Suburbs are all shit .0xunkn0wn: this is so epic 😭 😭 .0xunkn0wn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ8qGOe2K0o zoermena: This one’s better ig zoermena: _3sphere: It looks like a movie and janky game animation combined alejandrozarzuelo: Cute but uncanny We are still 2-3 years away from studio quality/Hollywood quality video zoermena: Why do I have access to Veo 2 lol zoermena: zoermena: Rn idk if I need to use that zoermena: First I need to find something I could code theaiguy69420_89814: i've only seen videos theaiguy69420_89814: try windsurf lmk how it is zoermena: Deep research is broken, I want to start using cursor theaiguy69420_89814: the potential to be productive rn is ridiculous theaiguy69420_89814: its funny, the other week i asked deep research for a business idea; since then i have been implementing all of the freelance tasks via cursor lol zoermena: I do for some reason or at least did zoermena: Yesterday I showed it to a consulting firm and a tv presenter in the event I was invited _cloudost: Barely anyone here has access to Veo 2 zoermena: 2 things I recommend constantly cursor and deep research theaiguy69420_89814: so keep an eye out theaiguy69420_89814: also cursor updates almost every other day theaiguy69420_89814: windsurf does no such thing theaiguy69420_89814: cursor limits token outputs automatically spicy.lemonade: ah theaiguy69420_89814: so its more expensive theaiguy69420_89814: windsurf is like cursor but really heavy on agentic stuff theaiguy69420_89814: yeah that's normal
futurist_wizard: Im on my phone futurist_wizard: Optimizations are needed gamerbath: oh yea I get a little lag there sometimes. just upgrade your GPU futurist_wizard: When typing futurist_wizard: Like i get massive lag gamerbath: what part is slow? futurist_wizard: Feels like 5 fps zonchao: it's not about empowerment, her arguments are different futurist_wizard: Your site is slow af gamerbath: noooo 😭 zonchao: it was boring af but that is the future of space flight, it will be routine trey6033: She knows it's just faux women empowerment zonchao: more people yapped about it than watched the stream this morning zonchao: 💀 zonchao: yes but hate is insane futurist_wizard: Its me gamerbath: oh my gosh it's happening!! futurist_wizard: Not that her point is anything but those suborbital space flights are so gimmicky zonchao: oh noes we cannot accelerate, we have people starving in africa 🥺 gamerbath: btw 4o-mini, 4.1 mini and 4.1 nano are free to use zonchao: https://x.com/PopBase/status/1911897295265939616? what is wrong with these retards gamerbath: I hope this isn't self-promotion, genuenly looking for feedback gamerbath: <http://branching.chat/> futurist_wizard: Link gamerbath: just buy a 5090 or something and the site should work fine wellmeaningalien: Yea lol gamerbath: are you talking about the generation time of the models? I just tested it with throttling to a low-tier mobile, and it took several extra seconds just to start the generation which is pretty bad gamerbath: idk it hasn't popped up in my cursor yet zonchao: https://x.com/thekitze/status/1911857992137625825? can I get a fact check gamerbath: what parts are slow? gamerbath: really? I was surprised by how fast it was when I deployed it, the dev build was pretty slow at times wellmeaningalien: Ur site slow asf zonchao: yea kinda cringe trey6033: "resembles Nikola Tesla" yeah uh huh zonchao: maybe zonchao: oh gamerbath: everyone ignoring my site :< I was looking for feedback trey6033: Nah, because it won't be as good as they claim zonchao: every lab will pay futurist_wizard: Trey is just a hand
3ds0662: but you know what i mean i want fiction and crazy return 3ds0662: i guess thats fair o1 did help me make webscraping scripts from nothing 3ds0662: i dont think china will overtake us cause of how we literally have nvidia, tsmc, etc… it will take a lot more so far theyve been treading but not outpacing ldj: Some people are already able up learn Python and stuff from O1 Pro, and in those cases it effectively adds tens of thousands of dollars or more of value to their lives every year, for the rest of their lives 3ds0662: it isnt solving or attacking enough problems that would help me tremendously 3ds0662: yeah but its more about if you pay that it should be able to do some noteworthy things for that. the education example was just an example of how even at the free tier its making insane changes and if a phd pays the 200 and has deep research its life changing as well, its just not life changing in the income and robinhood(the fairytale) aspect for me yet 3ds0662: tbh i love that trump deregulated ai that will accelerate everything. while his other stuff not so fond of ldj: Because that’s not what OpenAI is charging them ldj: OpenAI is providing it to schools for free, so it doesn’t need to bring $200 of value to them. 3ds0662: or easing life income if millionaire is too extreme for poor people 3ds0662: make millionaires from nothing while doing everything else too ldj: Yea I’m just saying a hypothetical situation such as a researcher at a big bio tech company, or someone working in geneology or computational biology etc… I think 5% time save is even conservative for them 3ds0662: if the ai revolution is supposed to be the greatest revolution as its touted to be it should be able to do that precariousworlds.: this administration is so retarded its actually over start learning mandarin everyone 3ds0662: turning poor people to wealthy like bitcoin and cryptocurrency did way back when and other revolutions 3ds0662: what im sayinng is that but for money making/income 3ds0662: especially at the phd level .histic: there's lots of evidence it's an OpenAI model. but it could be another provider masquerading as OpenAI. but it feels like an OpenAI model to me. maybe they'll announce it sometime this or next week. destrucules: She's become such a slop channel. Can people I look up to stop turning out shitty pls thanks 3ds0662: yeah but thats a researcher context ai, is supposed to uplift and be more robinhood like from my perspective unlock fictional capabilities and take from the rich/give back to the poor. an example being like how it’s affecting education the same classes we needed professors lots of youtube, and textbooks for have been greatly eased by ai .histic: misread that oops <:LOL:1187460826572005436> destrucules: "If" .histic: 300k? damn.. 3ds0662: like how llama did the lmarena thing and 10 m context ldj: If I’m a researcher making $300K per year and I save even 5% of my time with O1 Pro, then that’s already worth over $1K per month to me 3ds0662: seems too marketed gimmicky 3ds0662: ive seen that and dont think so still not enough information and its not as touted as advertised 3ds0662: especially claude 3ds0662: plus even if they dont china deepseek, and google hopefully will for the free tier and 20$ .histic: Quasar Alpha model seems like it's from OpenAI. 3ds0662: only 2-3 months left before everythings released 3ds0662: i hope openai cooks forreal with the next set of models 3ds0662: i got bored of this one lol 3ds0662: basically im just waiting for o3 full now and o3 pro 3ds0662: what do you think an example is of how o1 pro could pay itself off cause even asking it, the responses arent enough themselves to actually do it 3ds0662: though 3ds0662: yeah but its still not there yet, i love unlimited use ldj: You pay $200 for unlimited usage of all the OpenAI chat models ldj: Yes because it’s literally unlimited usage and people abuse that lol .histic: nvm, https://openrouter.ai/openrouter/quasar-alpha
wellmeaningalien: bro you're gonna scare off the unemployed gooners waiting for asi waifu zoermena: It fucking felt like this. maintcrew: sorry i shouldve censored the trigger word w*rk hikukomoru: Doesn't look as gay now Still very gay, but 1% less zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-oppenheimer-movie-walk-walking-gif-3311223081607307352 wellmeaningalien: <a:facepalm:1224737123911995542> wellmeaningalien: yea why didnt i think of that wow zoermena: <:this:1136266732542119946> maintcrew: go work nerd hikukomoru: Wrong wellmeaningalien: Yeah i could do it in belgium but im POOR BRO zoermena: I can attest to this, I was in this short course about data analytics and I swear to you I didn't put any level of attention for 5 weeks, I got medicated two days before the final exam and I studied all of the material in one morning, same day of the exam. I got an 87/100. So yes you do become einstein. maintcrew: i mean... just go one country over to germany or whoever has it legal and get it there??? wellmeaningalien: i pay like so low cause im so poor realelonmuskx: no you wont little meat puppet, you are not needed, not special, wont leave a mark, and no one will neither. this is monkey mmo survival game pay to exist hey1_1hey: Never was a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634> hey1_1hey: Good band innit hey1_1hey: I dont know if I should be thankful or ashamed st.sioux: i love my favorite band skikoot wellmeaningalien: nah adderall is illegal here and my psych put me on ritalin but it doesnt work and makes me angry like a bull. im waiting to try non stimulants but here in france its difficult to get them and they'll put u thru ever stimulant ever before giving u vyvanse or strattera hikukomoru: Zamn you're not on meds no wonder a1c4p0ne: <@439829942310666250> maintcrew: europoor how is that awesome healthcare huh how much u get taxed for it futurist_wizard: Yeaj same i could barely concentrate for longer than 5 minutes without meds hey1_1hey: If I was on medication I would litterly have 160iq maintcrew: bro... adderal shortage rn wellmeaningalien: GOD I FUCKING HATE PUBLIC HEALTHCARE oooooooooog: you do realize that the cell line we come from has existed billions of years right? entropy is a non issue here (until the sun burns earth) maintcrew: yes and if u think otherwise its a problem with you theres give and take in situations like these wellmeaningalien: i definitely do have an attention span problem and IM STILL WAITING FOR MY RETARDED ASS FUCKING PSYCHIATRIST TO GIVE ME MEDS!!!! futurist_wizard: Not me i suppose zoermena: When I first took meds I studied for the first time in my life, shame that they don't work as effectively now and I've messed up the treatment but I can always up the dose (I'm at the lowest) hey1_1hey: The voices in my head say they are my real friends (I dont have voices in my head) hikukomoru: Ty 👍 maintcrew: if yall misbehave u get the silent treatment for 1 hour to deal with your fucked up brain wellmeaningalien: i heard autistic people get way more autistic on adhd meds .wolfnacht: the most people i was able to connect with better were "online" futurist_wizard: Honestly taking adhd meds i think basically cured any rest of the autistic traits i had left wellmeaningalien: ur sperging out right now
fuhulootogan: UBI! UBI! UBI! UBI! UBI! brain4brain: ASI is smarter than all of humanity combined okbut: <:Hmm:804642320195780619> fuhulootogan: and they do what okbut: They don't even have internet okbut: Yes, the hopes are that the AGI does their rice farming fuhulootogan: close to the 6 million cambodian farmers grazing upon AI? fuhulootogan: ASI for 100k per month okbut: How close are we to that okbut: There are 6 million Cambodian farmers that have never grazed upon AI fuhulootogan: rip ai9708: you could automate singificant amounts of them ai9708: it could already replace a lot of jobs, if there was an effort ai9708: the thing is current sota ai sucks, but so do like 70-80% of all humans fuhulootogan: well if you pair up AGI with a hopefully good energy source we can add labor to that as well brain4brain: Bro this women keep yapping and staying away from AGI, why is no one saying AGI okbut: Just digital brain4brain: An AI that can do 90% of all digital job and AI research okbut: What does your dream AGI look like fuhulootogan: still better than hiring an actual software engineer brain4brain: Yes brain4brain: I need an AI that can do 90% of all digital job and AI research fuhulootogan: oh it's per month fuhulootogan: maybe not fuhulootogan: actually brain4brain: A little confuse, but got the spirit fuhulootogan: better than any slave you'll find on planet earth fuhulootogan: the pricing is worth it brain4brain: They have achieved AGI internally brain4brain: The PhD super agent leak were real brain4brain: If this will be the 2,000$ plan, imagine the 20k$ plan fuhulootogan: it may get leaked as well fuhulootogan: it may be possible that when ASI comes fuhulootogan: i think because of cases like these fuhulootogan: actually i just agree with the part where AGI will benefit humanity trent_k: wait no it was WannaCry trent_k: EternalBlue, later used in NotPetya ransomware iirc brain4brain: No. ai9708: maybe he changes his timeline soonish brain4brain: I’m neutral/ positive about him
spicy.lemonade: They can't now spicy.lemonade: “If I can't see it, it doesn't exist” wellmeaningalien: soon they wont be abl to tell anyway wellmeaningalien: 😂 spicy.lemonade: Supreme levels of cope wellmeaningalien: yup spicy.lemonade: On art servers spicy.lemonade: Is banned spicy.lemonade: And AI talk itself wellmeaningalien: its good to see them get a taste of their own medicine now AI is doing literally everything they say it couldnt lmao spicy.lemonade: “It still fails at hands hahahahah” wellmeaningalien: also making nonsensical claims about the nature of AI as if they know everything and that humans are the supreme beings in the universe spicy.lemonade: Yes wellmeaningalien: cause they annoying as fuck especially the twitter ones _3sphere: Why the sadistic relish in artists getting replaced _cloudost: spicy.lemonade: On new image gen spicy.lemonade: 😭 spicy.lemonade: Still spicy.lemonade: From Gary marcus spicy.lemonade: Not one word _cloudost: Wonder how gemini 2 will be _cloudost: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytomieYqUCQ this person uses Gemini 2 to manipulate Blender _cloudost: its not protected under free speech _cloudost: no _cloudost: Would it be acceptable if someone sends death threats to black people over immigration? _cloudost: ^ futurist_wizard: not even in America futurist_wizard: free speech doesn't include death threats spicy.lemonade: Unless they make a sota llm model themselves lol spicy.lemonade: Midnourney is cooked spicy.lemonade: The best part about 4o image is youncsn use it naturesly with chat spicy.lemonade: The only way mjv7 gets ahead is if they make their own Chatbot alejandrozarzuelo: I think they are wrong but who cares spicy.lemonade: Midjourney ceo Is coping alejandrozarzuelo: Free speech and all that spicy.lemonade: Bro what spicy.lemonade: alejandrozarzuelo: Let people be angry alejandrozarzuelo: Naj
okbut: PhD-level intelligence means fabricating information, but with justified true belief destrucules: OpenAI has like fourteen different tiers lol sorry, thanks for confirming a1c4p0ne: What if it’s a emergency or important situation zoermena: Yes metaldragon01: A published book is reviewed at least 3x destrucules: That's the $20 tier right? okbut: Hallucinations are an essential a1c4p0ne: Give examples destrucules: For power user coding I can see caring about price. So I guess for that, I can see Gemini 2.5 Flash being on the radar. But I feel like a lot of us in this server aren't power users for coding metaldragon01: It's why stuff goes through so many reviews zoermena: Im not draining my wallet for sure but I have OAI plus metaldragon01: Humans do the same a1c4p0ne: Hallucinations will never be solved metaldragon01: Both really solid but not perfect a1c4p0ne: Haven’t compared the two okbut: Depends on the use case. Some of my codebases reap that million quick metaldragon01: Ehhh not anymore than o3 destrucules: Everyone hallucinates tho a1c4p0ne: 2.5 pro deep research hallucinates destrucules: That too metaldragon01: Lymsys has them free btw destrucules: Are y'all out here really draining your wallets on models? zoermena: Or is open router right? trey6033: I'm not in it, think it's Legit's discord destrucules: I spend like $10 a month on OR and a bit under $20 on Claude sub and that's it. And at this point idk why I have Claude sub destrucules: No it's not because I'm drowning in money, it's because a million tokens is a lot of fuckin tokens zoermena: For the love of god open ai can’t loose destrucules: Idk about y'all but for me, unless it's literally o1 Pro or o1 or GPT-4.5 or o3, I'm never limited by funds. I get Gemini 2.5 Pro for free. So like... Getting a dumber free model doesn't excite me okbut: Where can I find this bot Btw I'm excited for 4/22 destrucules: Am I the only one not excited about this? sieventer: RIP OpenAI metaldragon01: Called it trey6033: Definitely flash tomorrow sieventer: aaaaaaa destrucules: o4 mini is a good model, don't get me wrong. But the fact that Grok 3 mini Reasoning is just as good is insane okbut: They gotta pick a better acronym fr destrucules: I'm just tired of writing the whole name destrucules: No I meant AA as in ArtificialAnalysis okbut: The evaluation_treatment key values are some arbitrary categorization AFAIK (if you meant that being related to AA) destrucules: They're virtually identical to each other
zoermena: Where <:Gemini:1208877682058854490> 2.5? zonchao: 777agical: https://x.com/mikeknoop/status/1914761435458281806 zonchao: tesla has started building cortex 2 aero447: Lawyer time. aero447: https://tenor.com/view/ace-attorney-phoenix-wright-objection-capcom-gif-20965907 ldj: Yea but main bottleneck rn is GPU delivery speed I think. Also OAI and others are going to start copying XAI buildout strategies so that'll make em faster too, just like everybody else copied a lot of OpenAIs strategies to catch up with them aero447: 🫵 aero447: Used to train FSD 14. 777agical: elon and jensen are buddies zonchao: dylan told the story at all the pods he been to <:LOL:1187460826572005436> aero447: It seriously impressed him IIRC. zonchao: <:praying_hd:1230897753580634123> zonchao: the big news we will be getting soon is the 25-30B raise aero447: Yeah but Jensen himself has remarked on the pace Xai are building out. zonchao: afaik ldj: about it being worked on? yea. Stargate has also already been confirmed to be worked on too. zonchao: stargate is farther in dev aero447: <@750270494615404544> aero447: 🫡 aero447: There was confirmation yesterday on C2. ldj: I haven't seen them build anything larger than collosus yet ldj: ?where aero447: NGL seems slow with how fast Elon's scaling RN. ldj: I agree such compute scaling is unlikely to continue every few months. aero447: 😮‍💨 ldj: maybe EOY? aero447: Sure but IDK it seems unlikely that without expanding to the Star Trek facility they'll have the means to do this every few months. ldj: okay I'll let you have your opinion ig, not much I can do to change your mind. Just pointing out that it's a bad argument to say "if it was possible they would've done it already" since that would be a false statement if you said that back in october. aero447: 🥺 aero447: Perhaps it is larger but not considerably. aero447: Sure but I wouldn't bank on that. ldj: just because a model has improvements besides just scale, doesn't mean that it's not using more scale. ldj: that doesn't change the fact that it still uses 10X compute on top of all those improvements ldj: they confirmed improvements in techniques and dataset for O3 over O1 aero447: Eh... ldj: O3 was already confirmed not simply be a scaled up O1 either... aero447: 🤷 ldj: "They only scaled up O1 by 100X instead of 1,000X over O1-preview, therefore they must not have the compute yet for a model to be trained with 1,000X more than O1-preview" aero447: That's what I've been saying though because we've been told o4 isn't simply a scaled o3.
alejandrozarzuelo: werent the earlier generations harder? spicy.lemonade: qwen 3 announced this wee .0xunkn0wn: any new models out better than 2.5 pro? nsec: in 700 hours nsec: any person could beat gen 1 tho alejandrozarzuelo: also, i played Black and white when I was a kid (8) and it took me ages nsec: in how many hours lmao nsec: Ma'am alejandrozarzuelo: R2 will beat pokemon inshallah ailoveyoom: After that, it's Elite Four time nsec: I've made my choice ailoveyoom: Iirc ailoveyoom: 2.5 Pro is on their final badge 😤 alejandrozarzuelo: he is a dude nsec: ma'am sorry nsec: sir ailoveyoom: Check back in a week or so 😈 alejandrozarzuelo: im sure that your average female assistant of the 80s wouldnt be able to beat a videogame either lol nsec: <:1000yardstare:1168066462288715787> nsec: a four year old can beat pokemon nsec: but ai cant even beat pokemon nsec: thats nice nsec: listen son nsec: <:blu:582515728712859649> alejandrozarzuelo: i think that current AI is akin to that historical job nsec: what are u talkin about hombre alejandrozarzuelo: o3 is like having a smart female assistant in the 80s, she is still a woman with little formation in your field and you need to tell her what to do and how to do it but she is well motivated and can research on her own (just as they were viewed back then we view o3 and gem2.5) nsec: top 3 cults and aint 3rd nsec: yall the nicest cult nsec: I love yall singularity peeps alejandrozarzuelo: telling it what steps need to be done, what actions... alejandrozarzuelo: o3 is terribly useful, but you need to hold its hand while doing things alejandrozarzuelo: its not the reason i say no alejandrozarzuelo: thats a hardware and capacity problem spicy.lemonade: and o3 doesnt work for hours spicy.lemonade: no alejandrozarzuelo: no ldj: Do you guys feel like O3 matches this vision? ldj: A few months ago Sama said that this: "Overall I hope that by the end of this year we have a model that you can use... if you have the pro tier you can turn the compute all the way up, and you can ask it a really hard question, not one that requires discovering new science but most things short of that, and you kind of just get it to work. It may have to go off and think for a few hours... it may have to go use a bunch of tools... but it kind of just does it for you." - Sama, Feb 2025 in Tokyo ldj: But in terms of true raw compute, GPT-4 only needed to train on about 100X more
wellmeaningalien: fractal whats wrong why you picked violence today maintcrew: no i am a productive member of society hey1_1hey: What a based mf fractalcomputer: Are you an applied mathematician and/or an ethicist? Because I want to throw you off a cliff. wellmeaningalien: yeah hey1_1hey: I dont think we give Zon enough credit. Sure he sucks off elon and trump a lot but atleast he actually likes AI wellmeaningalien: dms 🤑 maintcrew: hysminea i heard u use gentoo maintcrew: me me me wellmeaningalien: does anyone want my course wellmeaningalien: facts maintcrew: the discord too maintcrew: so real hey1_1hey: So rat then wellmeaningalien: r/singularity too fractalcomputer: Roko is not a terribly intelligent person. hikukomoru: It's me trent_k: oh wow, i didn't catch that. pretty solid hey1_1hey: Is this a cat or a rat maintcrew: yep every community goes to shit and gets filled with grifters if it becomes big enough hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/rigby-freaky-cat-cat-meme-tongue-out-gif-1492882876567450372 futurist_wizard: Your lack of faith displeases roko spicy.lemonade: BRO it even has that comic paper texture wellmeaningalien: r/programmerhumor too hey1_1hey: "This title was generated by chatgpt" wellmeaningalien: idiot maintcrew: if you mean the subreddit it's just seething retards who went through 4 year of uni barely doing anything and now expect a 5 gazillion paying job writing slop wellmeaningalien: can someone ask gpt 4o to make a step by step guide on making pancakes. i knew a luddite in a discord server who always used this test to show how bad image gen models are. id like to see how gpt 4o does trent_k: TOP 5 WAYS that OpenAI is RUINING the internet! [NUMBER 3 WILL SHOCK YOU] hey1_1hey: Wrong sub buddy, go back to artisthate .histic: 4o image gen is so high-quality drewsni: msg me lol 777agical: you're welcome clevermoniker: <:rolf:1136266740754550784> fractalcomputer: I can't believe OpenAI is a machine that turns AI progress into slop. hey1_1hey: I think I just came ailoveyoom: It was deleted 😔 trent_k: im not drewsni: i swear youre posting dalle images jonvi_1: Sooo lol nvm
joaoluz19: gamerbath: yea just downvote the comment enough for it to be hidden, maybe then the truth stops existing clevermoniker: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> zoermena: The dudes wise enough to recognize improvements and his anti is certainly justified. ailoveyoom: Also it's not because 'the truth hurts', it's because you see how asshole-y that comes off as right? 😔 gamerbath: yea here's that zoermena: Mich mach 4o gen for free today ailoveyoom: The wine test was solved too gamerbath: AI obviously can't count fingers _3sphere: Popular enough for LLMs to know probably fractalcomputer: Prithee, could you ask it to visualise Interuniversal Teichmüller Theory, please? ailoveyoom: Does Teto have official art? Isn't she just a vocal synth? _3sphere: Beautiful spicy.lemonade: _3sphere: https://tenor.com/view/pomni-dance-revolution-pomni-animations-anima-gif-789371396831972585 fractalcomputer: Yes, because it is the epitome of the modern "panem et circenses." I take no joy in it and I would advise you to refuse it as well. _cloudost: Midjourney is cooked spicy.lemonade: ok _cloudost: o joaoluz19: Yes _cloudost: theres no limit? gamerbath: i'm gonna comment this image if you don't mind, just to see how people cope spicy.lemonade: yes _cloudost: is image generation infinite? joaoluz19: Fractal when a new technology for gooners emerge _3sphere: Hands are solved _3sphere: Madness _cloudost: One day they will be charged with treason spicy.lemonade: joaoluz19: It's over _cloudost: they betrayed us _3sphere: >>> Redo this drawing of Teto in space to look like a normal anime image. The proportions are slightly off, correct them too. The hair is supposed to be like that, it's floating in zero gravity. _cloudost: No more sympathy for digital artists spicy.lemonade: ok _3sphere: Can we try one more spicy spicy.lemonade: soon enough clevermoniker: so... these people will panic when it can finally make fingers every time _cloudost: so dumb spicy.lemonade: they will learn gamerbath: ah yes
hikukomoru: >O3 still fails the strawberry test It does? spicy.lemonade: really? ldj: O3 still fails the strawberry test btw, and that amongst other things, I think they have incentive to still scale up param count more for sure, and I think they will. .coldcall: <:SmartFloppa:1136264103598501900> spicy.lemonade: especialy for geometry spicy.lemonade: some of its reasoning would be odd spicy.lemonade: if that was the case spicy.lemonade: honestly i dont thnk they have ldj: <:shrug:1083221317945413777> ldj: how do you know they haven't already spicy.lemonade: and rl spicy.lemonade: wth 4d vector space spicy.lemonade: we can bake that into AI easily ldj: and this: spicy.lemonade: like imagine newton could think in 4d spicy.lemonade: thoughts? spicy.lemonade: could develop new emergent capabilities ldj: bad y-axis, here is better: spicy.lemonade: or 5d spicy.lemonade: openAI should train o4 on 4d space 777agical: <:ez:1136267305521774634> 777agical: MCP+A2A+GPT5+CUA(operator) metaldragon01: So far my 2 year old timeline is holding up for my personal definition .histic: pretty low on the leaderboard, but relatively speaking, o3-mini-high got 23rd. so, that's a good sign. o3 has a better world model since its base is GPT-4o, rather than GPT-4o-mini. 777agical: 8th I see metaldragon01: 8 hour task plus reliable computer work is my agi metaldragon01: In less than 1 year 8 hour task on this trend .histic: it's already on the leaderboard .coldcall: the double exponential is real? metaldragon01: We are at 2 hour task now 777agical: what place we think o4 mini will get here metaldragon01: Yeap. Been updated with o3 . I haven't read the paper but ai explained went over it spicy.lemonade: 😔 2% spicy.lemonade: this? spicy.lemonade: .histic: not a huge jump, but noticeable. metaldragon01: There's a new king in town (for now) .histic: SimpleBench just got updated metaldragon01: We've doubled from claude 3.7 thinking to the o3 jump metaldragon01: It was every 6 or 7 months but it's shorter than that for doubling the time horizon of task
technocake.: this is an absolutely wild truth alejandrozarzuelo: This is one of the few times when the bell curve meme does ring true alejandrozarzuelo: Its hard to believe for people who aren't physicists, but the consensus is that we are very close to alone in the universe technocake.: it might well be that we are among the first alejandrozarzuelo: Crushing your dreams alejandrozarzuelo: In fact "alien day" in physics class is basically the professor telling us why none of that is possible alejandrozarzuelo: Not enough heavy elements alejandrozarzuelo: The main problem with that theory is alejandrozarzuelo: By land I mean yeah water being liquid and having organic stuff dissolved technocake.: by land do you mean festering prionic sludge? alejandrozarzuelo: Haha alejandrozarzuelo: Just one day, don't get too excited alejandrozarzuelo: In every astronomy class there's the day where we talk about aliens alejandrozarzuelo: Or the last few alejandrozarzuelo: I know him but I didn't watch his last video alejandrozarzuelo: I learned rhisbjon class technocake.: you'd like him alejandrozarzuelo: This is astronomy 101 technocake.: oh dope alejandrozarzuelo: No? technocake.: he saw an anton petrov vid last week dw hikukomoru: Autism special interests alejandrozarzuelo: And the amount of habitable land in the universe was quadrillions of times greater than today zoermena: I honestly don’t know how you have so much information, I read but I easily forget alejandrozarzuelo: For a few million years, the entire temperature of the universe was between 50-0C alejandrozarzuelo: BTW, there is a very interesting theory about why panspermia should he very common technocake.: oh no why is my skin on fire technocake.: ahh the calming orange depths of space alejandrozarzuelo: Not very pleasant alejandrozarzuelo: It was also 3000K alejandrozarzuelo: In all directions at all times alejandrozarzuelo: It's hard to believe that the universe used to glow orange technocake.: or the blargaloid as we call it alejandrozarzuelo: Lovely technocake.: yup, the color of the microwave background hikukomoru: That's blargol alejandrozarzuelo: No, it's just that my phone can't display it because I'm poor st.sioux: glombious has always been my fafvourite colour alejandrozarzuelo: But on a serious note <@723564215574462474> you are doing yourself a disservice by not getting minimally acquainted with modern color theory hikukomoru: Lmao I can't believe Alejandro doesn't know glombious
spicy.lemonade: yes fractalcomputer: Do you mean weak(ly general)? spicy.lemonade: *insert comment about week fractalcomputer: Week AGI? spicy.lemonade: thats week agi fractalcomputer: Watch as nothing happens. spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: wouldnt it be other way around ailoveyoom: Maybe? ailoveyoom: O3 to plan and 4.1 to write the code brain4brain: What makes you think they aren’t also bots? spicy.lemonade: how are they benchmarking 2 models at the same time spicy.lemonade: o3+4.1 spicy.lemonade: what does this mean? spicy.lemonade: brain4brain: Only a matter of time aero447: Yet the Reddit people still engage. aero447: They are not trying anymore. aero447: spicy.lemonade: not realtime though brain4brain: This took 5 months to be solved, wow, I think I predicted it getting solve a while back, but don’t remember if this faster or slower than my prediction .histic: even in the api .histic: fuck, o3 and o4-mini is so lazy with code spicy.lemonade: fastest saturation ever spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: ege is just a sever pessimist aero447: <@312370916820779040> Will call it. spicy.lemonade: bro is just making up numbers aero447: 😂 aero447: https://fxtwitter.com/dwarkesh_sp/status/1913008391854932202 aero447: No AGI until 2055. aero447: Wrong. spicy.lemonade: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1913116524203708712 aero447: 😎 aero447: https://x.com/menhguin/status/1912923983831531585 .wolfnacht: spicy.lemonade: gpt6+ spicy.lemonade: cant wait till this stuff gets implemented in next gen a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/accelerate-acceleration-vaporwave-aesthetic-gif-17950038
spicy.lemonade: no czdct: not in my field of work czdct: maybe yours spicy.lemonade: lmao spicy.lemonade: factually spicy.lemonade: gpt did change the world tho czdct: but whenever someone mentions this people go crazy czdct: it's a trend czdct: 6 months later still nothing happens spicy.lemonade: NO ONE HAS SAID THIS before 2024 shirethedreamer: you keep using larping and im not sure you know what that word means czdct: this [insert model] will change [insert field] forever!!! spicy.lemonade: cite what other time this happened spicy.lemonade: lmao spicy.lemonade: till 2023-4 spacetimetsunami: Have you….seen… the insane progress spicy.lemonade: this hasnt happened czdct: people larping about agi this asi that czdct: I'm talking about the general trend where AI tech gets overhyped spicy.lemonade: what are we talking about then? spicy.lemonade: what else would we be talking about czdct: you're just strawmanning spicy.lemonade: bro czdct: when did I mention anything about any specific gpt model? spicy.lemonade: thats how tech works spicy.lemonade: everything is based off something old spicy.lemonade: you can make the arguement for all technology ever spicy.lemonade: is new spicy.lemonade: the main architecture behind the gpt3 type llm spicy.lemonade: relatively spicy.lemonade: yes they are czdct: if not then it's all larp czdct: I'll believe it when I see it spicy.lemonade: every llm benchmark and growth data spacetimetsunami: The capabilities sure are lmao czdct: just because your whole concept of an LLM is just chatpgt doesn't mean that everyone's is spacetimetsunami: Ilyas numbers czdct: LLM's aren't something new spacetimetsunami: Show me the numbers…. spicy.lemonade: the larp only started after gpt 4
drewsni: As long as it’s not cursive, it’s extremely reliable maintcrew: wait try the new gemini one maybe its way better st.sioux: dont tell ur boss tho st.sioux: gotta take advantage of that tech bro drewsni: Hook that shit up to Gemini flash tbh zoermena: I’ve seen it on my iPhone but yeah never thought of it on a PC drewsni: Your life is gonna be changed maintcrew: recognizing text on a scanned document zoermena: What’s that drewsni: Me telling my old boss this in 2022 lol maintcrew: didnt mistral release a model specifically for this too maintcrew: bro ocr has been semi solved maintcrew: ocr? zoermena: Car stuff, it’s just what I do when there’s nothing to do. sweetievee__33649: enter data i suppose zoermena: Yes but this is like a scanned document so can’t really copy the text. st.sioux: what do you do in data entry .histic: better than a physical job tbh sweetievee__33649: couldnt ai automate most of data entry? zoermena: Data entry is so boring ong sweetievee__33649: they really are though artists complain so much it makes me lose sympathy for them .histic: damn, multitasking. 🔥 zoermena: No my in real life adult job, not remote .histic: wait, ur job is remote? or is that just school work zoermena: I’m not locked in zoermena: I’m here working doing some data entry at the speed of a snail zoermena: 3am intended to wake up at 5, I lost my sleep .histic: wait, what time did u wake up? zoermena: I’m absolutely fucked I couldn’t sleep since 3am .histic: >> AI Art -> "Soulless slop that doesn't understand art". >> LLM intelligence -> "Doesn't understand anything, just a regurgitating machine." they always will act like this. zoermena: <@937125337748348999> I actually went ahead and worked out. zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> hikukomoru: >@NEETRights lmao .histic: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> drewsni: https://x.com/neetrights/status/1907072073068900812?s=46&t=l57oQGysnrNDBep2z7DGuw we should use the term Reddit slop more often .histic: https://x.com/ShitpostRock/status/1906861372702355910 wait, this is the reply he had under his tweet. <:bruh:1187466327028408390> banger post, pandering reply. fractalcomputer: Refined distinctions weren't the subject of the study. What was found that the religious groups performed a bit better in terms of speed and quality in pattern recognition than the self-described irreligious or something like that. ldj: also I think it would be interesting to see if people that were born into an atheist family but converted to religion later in life maybe have even stronger pattern recognition. .histic: that code is soulless. wellmeaningalien: yeah guess thats true
fractalcomputer: I actually fell for a friend's joke. zonchao: https://www.tesla.com/roadster fractalcomputer: Yeah, I'm not joking. zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> zoermena: This car looks AI generated zonchao: (they actually opened orders tho so idk if it's a joke) zonchao: https://x.com/Deandawiz/status/1906945752489734611? beat this spicy.lemonade: getting tired of this😭 zoermena: That’s actually cool af fractalcomputer: There's some empirical evidence to suggest religious thinking correlates with noticing patterns slightly better in given data in humans. maintcrew: https://x.com/AlexKontorovich/status/1907026713420136629 fractalcomputer: I hear several ones. zoermena: I’m sorry I just didn’t understand what you meant. zoermena: I only hear one voice and it’s mine and it never stops, why doesn’t it stop? fractalcomputer: Hearing voices does wonders to your pattern matching skills, no? zoermena: So I have to pretend to be religious to do well in business. fractalcomputer: Kek. fractalcomputer: https://x.com/wtgowers/status/1906969462009381157?t=eqvqEuBHk5ZGxZZ4sayk6g&s=19 maintcrew: the goats zonchao: <a:alert:1225312524690522193> > Tan tells us how only yesterday he spent five hours talking with Altman, whose treatise, he said with shining eyes, is “almost a work of faith itself of AGI and ASI potentially in thousands of days.” Tan continues, “Sam thinks we will actually unlock physics and the secrets of science and technology to a point where we will have abundance on tap.” zonchao: <@590577270926868480> > “No one wants the Palantir guy to be high on acid for two weeks at Burning Man,” said that same venture capital communications exec. “You want hard workers. People who are like, ‘I learned that at West Point.’ We have Israelis who served in the IDF and are religious and conservative and super libertarian. And we’re like, ‘Yeah, that seems focused. We’ll take that.’ ” lmaooo drewsni: https://x.com/DeepGuessr/status/1907064065282965804 fractalcomputer: Huh. zonchao: https://x.com/FilippoAlimonda/status/1907055243659010420? <:LOL:1187460826572005436> zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/garrytan/status/1907054451212390621? zonchao: calling it rn, 14th with kim kardashian zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171 zonchao: YC is trying to resurrect christ zonchao: > “People are so ready to make AGI their god,” Tan added. “What we’re trying to do with events like this is give them an alternative.” zonchao: > Meanwhile, downstream of Thiel and Musk are people like Tan, who is busy shepherding the Valley’s next cohort of entrepreneurs and who occasionally tweets scripture from his X account. <:praying_hd:1230897753580634123> zonchao: > And it’s not only Thiel. Last summer, in an interview with Jordan Peterson, Elon Musk described himself, cautiously, as a “cultural Christian.” “I do believe that the teachings of Jesus are good and wise,” he said. To have two of the world’s richest technologists, worth a recently estimated $400 billion (Musk) and $14 billion (Thiel), speak admiringly about biblical teachings challenges the view that Christianity is anti-capitalist or even anti-intellectual. <@749514473303179358> zonchao: https://x.com/VanityFair/status/1905862530528080168? <@1272646380233560067> lmao > Christians in Silicon Valley; they just knew better than to advertise their faith. This is to say: The Christians were effectively in hiding. And one specific place they were hiding was, according to Tan, on a spreadsheet made up of Christians in tech, which was passed around for years among a dozen or so of the techno faithful jonvi_1: Idk seems pretty sound to me spicy.lemonade: Nothing can be trusted on this date jonvi_1: Crazy paper right spicy.lemonade: Bruh spicy.lemonade: 4% jonvi_1: https://arxiv.org/abs/1703.10987 jonvi_1: Big if true https://x.com/tegmark/status/1907050320347185546 futurist_wizard: Even just one example, any robotics company could just offer the table cleaning robot for free for real world demonstration
fuhulootogan: BLAME THE DISINGENUOUS NEWS FOR THAT hikukomoru: Nop fuhulootogan: we kinda are already futurist_wizard: We are heading towards hive mind fuhulootogan: than live in a brave new world fuhulootogan: not be alive fuhulootogan: i'd rather fractalcomputer: Have you read Consider Phlebas? Or Look to Windward? fuhulootogan: but me personally futurist_wizard: My cat fuhulootogan: depends on your worldviews futurist_wizard: hikukomoru: How? fractalcomputer: The Culture is a dystopia. fractalcomputer: It is dubious at best whether to consider BNW a dystopia. hikukomoru: We're heading towards The Culture fuhulootogan: do you guys think we're heading towards a Brave New World futurist_wizard: Es ist vorbius fractalcomputer: Heaven, you've got to learn to differentiate the times when I am making a joke and when I am being serious. Obviously I believe that there is no intrinsic (ethical) purpose or meaning to the universe; that said, I do like pure mathematics - it's something that I can do to stave off the crushing banality of quotidian life. fuhulootogan: oh nobody knows about that fuhulootogan: the grand purpose of the universe? hikukomoru: Europe bros... fuhulootogan: wait fuhulootogan: uhm fuhulootogan: because fuhulootogan: relax fuhulootogan: its just a test professorheaven: Then why posit mathematical understanding as the grand purpose of the universe? a1c4p0ne: 😋 fuhulootogan: ai ai fuhulootogan: what a mozzarella st.sioux: god on their way to give a child terminal cancer 💃 fuhulootogan: all gone to waste fuhulootogan: mellogini fettucino sauce hikukomoru: Zamn Talking about knotting when Fractal is around MichMach you don't fuck around bruh!!! 🔥 🔥 fractalcomputer: I did not say anything about describing the universe, did I now? fuhulootogan: but mathematics is the language of the universe a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/patrick-bateman-american-psycho-dorsia-hey-paul-killing-gif-18189443 fuhulootogan: AH AH AH AH AH AH fractalcomputer: Now, let's suppose that the Christian God did not exist; you live in a cosmos where your existence is a brute fact.
alejandrozarzuelo: no technocake.: post it in ghibli style alejandrozarzuelo: no futurist_wizard: Send it alejandrozarzuelo: which uni is yours? alejandrozarzuelo: nothing sexual dont worry hikukomoru: Please We don't want to seee that alejandrozarzuelo: but its too explicit to share here alejandrozarzuelo: I have a very good pic of me with the UN flag and EU in the shape of the angel of freedom in an artistic semi-nude style technocake.: there was stuff like this in my old uni town a1c4p0ne: alejandrozarzuelo: sadly alejandrozarzuelo: covid made it die down alejandrozarzuelo: thats why i have so many UN flags alejandrozarzuelo: I was the leader of the local group of young world federalists futurist_wizard: Hes living the good life alejandrozarzuelo: only for special days technocake.: goes hard ngl alejandrozarzuelo: Isnt this a BANGER of a bed tho? spacetimetsunami: thats rough spacetimetsunami: jesus alejandrozarzuelo: the lyrics were actually pretty good, but the term alone mired the song in controversy alejandrozarzuelo: it was madly controversial futurist_wizard: I just find the degeneracy funny futurist_wizard: Idk futurist_wizard: Yeah some streamer oooooooooog: is this the legendary platinum puller futurist_wizard: technocake.: it was the title of your eurovision track last year so I presumed it was already fully reclaimed alejandrozarzuelo: zorra is a controversial word in spanish, some people have appropiated it as a sex positive thing but it still sounds as a slur to many hikukomoru: Yeah only I get to call him a slut oooooooooog: the best offence is a good fence technocake.: oh my bad, i was going for playful hikukomoru: My mind is dirty like that alejandrozarzuelo: thats actually offensive technocake.: zorra technocake.: you're still a slut alejandrozarzuelo: why do you always think like that alejandrozarzuelo: the picture had to load first 777agical: https://x.com/sundarpichai/status/1906484930957193255
technocake.: IRS lazer eyes .histic: even though i'm from the US, mine is automatic too. cuz i evade taxes. 😇 technocake.: and for most its totally automatic technocake.: the thing is, this is only really a problem in the us. taxes for me as a sole trader take maybe 2 hours of my time in uk? technocake.: i would use 4.5 for vibes and overview aand o3 as the calculation gremlin trent_k: but if the charge is listed as like WaveCorpINC_SUBSCRIPTION or something similarly vague I need it to understand the category technocake.: ok that checks out trent_k: and so I get to count certain subscriptions as expenses trent_k: I make a decent bit of my income from some side projects that aren't my main source of employment trent_k: well like technocake.: not really, are there dif taxes for dif classes of item? technocake.: I do my preemptive tax calcs with o3 mini high and julia trent_k: u know what i mean? trent_k: and I need everything properly categorized trent_k: because I buy shit from a bunch of unknown ass companies trent_k: my concern is the general lack of world knowledge tho futurist_wizard: Open source ai tax accountant _cloudost: Funny thing is, if it was the other way around and an AI bro had said "We need to kill AI haters";these people would call AI bros "Nazis/fascists" forever technocake.: nah man 03-mini high is the autist for this task trent_k: I want to be excited about this but I have a feeling this is going to get wrapped into TurboTax and then doing taxes will be even shittier than it already is .histic: what a coincidence https://x.com/AccordanceAI/status/1905652001616318763 trent_k: thinking either claude or gpt-4.5 trent_k: not exactly sure which one I'm gonna have process the information tho trent_k: gonna have claude do the transcriptions of my bank statements futurist_wizard: maintcrew: which one maintcrew: wait trent_k: if I go to jail for fucking up the math I guess we'll know AI has hit a wall and Gary Marcus was right all along trent_k: wish me luck boys trent_k: i will be doing my taxes with an LLM maintcrew: i bet the negotiations were tough maintcrew: hey1_1hey: ChatGPT rizzing up aliens so hard they immidetly sign peace treaties within the first 0.00001 pico seconds of contact wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-dance-gif-26204167 campionunbound: https://x.com/DeItaone/status/1905732306767380721 joaoluz19: I tried a lot too and didn't find joaoluz19: Thanks very much bro, you are a hero futurist_wizard: Even the notice of meaning to life is bizarre, I've never in my entire life even thought about it futurist_wizard: There is no universal meaning to life hikukomoru: r/ghibli jannies working overtime 🔥
hey1_1hey: Also I have the tollereance of a newborn baby. I can take a single puff and be too high (no I am not joking) hikukomoru: So no more weed for me hikukomoru: I get anxious too hey1_1hey: I've done both but I just cant smoke weed anymore because I can unreasonbly anxiouse futurist_wizard: I have never smoked weed but i was close hikukomoru: Wait so you do shrooms but never done weed before sieventer: I see... zoermena: Some days up to 5 but sporadically distributed trough out the day, I’ve joined the bard server and I’ve been told that the quota is more than anything a cover to when the servers are under heavy load hey1_1hey: For all of the people who have smoked weed here. Do you get anxiouse when smoking or are you chilled out hikukomoru: Habibi futurist_wizard: hey1_1hey: I cant tell if this guy is stoned, has a lazy eye is just not looking at hte camera sieventer: How small is for you the rate limit? For me it's like 1 or 2 videos (idk if it's per day, or 'x' hours) futurist_wizard: zoermena: He looks happier than me hikukomoru: I wish my cats could do that hey1_1hey: This cat looks stoned asf futurist_wizard: Hehehe futurist_wizard: 3D>2D zoermena: Also this zoermena: I’ve been doing sci fi stuff hikukomoru: I have many anime girls to generate futurist_wizard: Like realistically what do people plan on generating futurist_wizard: I wouldn't have anything to generate futurist_wizard: Even if i did have it zoermena: Let’s agree to disagree 🫠 _cloudost: nnot brainrot sieventer: Yep, and I'm in Spain _cloudost: it was art zoermena: Do you have veo2? hikukomoru: Americans are enjoying their cool new toys while we sulk hey1_1hey: The singualrity could be happening over in zambia meanwhile we got people in the UK still struggling with putting away their dishes by hand sieventer: I don't think AI Studio is affected by European regulations, because I've seen always it has been a global release _cloudost: idk why _cloudost: some got it doe futurist_wizard: We have to sit in the cuck chair hikukomoru: It's out for everyone who's not an Europeon zoermena: A good thing considering the brainrot you sent in <#1239967453497393162> hey1_1hey: We get cucked for everything AI related himekokatagiri: the guy said it was
sieventer: The tier is free by default, with pretty good limits ·~· drewsni: Btw is AI studio actually free? Or just the 25 messages a day? sieventer: 2.5 Pro has 1M and 65k tokens output (crazy) sieventer: Depends of the model _3sphere: still 2M? _3sphere: How much context does free AI studio have sieventer: Sometimes there are good ads tho :·) sieventer: sieventer: Yeah, maybe as long they earn money... drewsni: Tbh I’d rather have fake Elon coin ads than the dumbass ai newsletter ads I get st.sioux: they don't care sieventer: I don't understand why they can't filter their ads, is that difficult? sieventer: I'm having them everyday, they're obviously scam sieventer: The amount of ads of fake Elon coins that are in Twitter it's crazy, at least with my geolocation, maybe in the USA is not that bad 777agical: he sued Global Alliance for Responsible Media, wonder what the status is for that gamerbath: i'm only 80% sure this isn't real drewsni: Ya, not happy with the amount of hallucinations so I couldn’t squeeze out the real real end goal but it worked much better than I thought it would zoermena: Yes st.sioux: elon musk sued advertisers for not advertising on x sieventer: Oh welp, good to know that :\| gamerbath: has it been released? gamerbath: where is kling 2.0? sieventer: I having lately very good ads in Twitter drewsni: I just did a project summarizing 3k videos with the 2.5 pro api and it’s just what I’ve found, if I ask for timestamps for key events it’ll start skipping whole minutes of content if the video is longer than 10 minutes. It can take an hour video as input it just is dumb over 150k token context 777agical: people underestimate the staying power of network effects spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: Like Apple spicy.lemonade: Realistically no major person wants to post or advertise on X sieventer: Welp, then Grok 3 just can't process videos yet xD spicy.lemonade: Then only thing left on Twitter is Elon shills spicy.lemonade: Then libs spicy.lemonade: The whole tech scene sieventer: Maybe in AI Studio, it can handle more info... I have that feeling. I didn't compare, but I think it's even more multimodal than Gemini spicy.lemonade: A lot of people would move over spicy.lemonade: If they moved the ai space to chatgpttwitter st.sioux: did ur tornado chasing project work out? spicy.lemonade: Me included spicy.lemonade: A lot of people stayed on Twitter because of the whole Ai space drewsni: You lose a lot of info if you have it summarize videos longer than 8-10 minutes tors.exe: i ask because i asked grok 3 for a sequel ideas for some niche game you never heared of and the game dont have any wikipedia just youtube videos and he told me he cant acces to youtube or even watch videos
trent_k: Watch out, they're gonna ban your account for child endangerment if one of the OpenAI staff thinks your dick is suspiciously small rayanquitplayin: ChatGPT is amazing, I love it so much rayanquitplayin: I didn’t know that rayanquitplayin: I studied finance in college so I’m more knowledgeable about that than comp sci zoermena: Roko zoermena: It’s gotten better quite quickly I think spicy.lemonade: bro is late spicy.lemonade: because of chatpt rayanquitplayin: I did not know AI was good at math spicy.lemonade: the world is on a completley different trajectory fractalcomputer: I am. I have been reviewing how professional mathematicians have reacted to this. Some are obviously more positive and some are less so in their predictions for the future—but it is very evident that no significant leaps have yet been made. spicy.lemonade: in gpu development spicy.lemonade: in VC, in interbet traffic, in papers published spicy.lemonade: visibly spicy.lemonade: AI has made huge impacts already spicy.lemonade: yes. maybe youre just not looking fractalcomputer: Just as it surpasses your own expectations? trent_k: No spicy.lemonade: literaly like last november spicy.lemonade: we just got AI capale of doing math at a competent level rayanquitplayin: Fractal high fasho spicy.lemonade: lol st.sioux: fractal is a timeless entity spicy.lemonade: I dont understand your point spicy.lemonade: what fractalcomputer: Shouldn't we await a digital God in two years? spicy.lemonade: yes? spicy.lemonade: openAI just released a benchmark for research fractalcomputer: Is the time frame supposed to be an issue? spicy.lemonade: give it a year spicy.lemonade: 2 years ago it couldnt even do algebra trent_k: Radical self improvement vs being dominated by something more powerful than yourself. It's no surprise people are more familiar with the latter fractalcomputer: And? zoermena: We’ve seen improvements in imaging and screening for diseases using new AI spicy.lemonade: an olympiad problem spicy.lemonade: since an AI could solve spicy.lemonade: bro its been 6 months fractalcomputer: Take for example your beloved Olympiad problems; seemingly incredible progress in mathematical reasoning and yet zilch actual progress in mathematical research has been engendered by this progress. spicy.lemonade: within 3 years spicy.lemonade: lol
maintcrew: timelines are by default guesses you give off the top of your head maintcrew: u told me ur height and medical problems and i thought ur a skinny boy maintcrew: holy shit u ripped as hell .wolfnacht: imagine having to guard datacenters now too. Well atleast it would push for Local AI more <:ez:1136267305521774634> .wolfnacht: Second generation ? your parents came from india and settled there. brain4brain: Tesla are not protected; Data centers have permitter wall, independent contractors agent, securities, government protection, defensive measures brain4brain: According to the AGI scientist/ innovator AGI definition, Dario said we would have it in 2027, a random research paper and schizo rumors on twitter say OpenAI will have it in 2025, xAI’s musk said AI will be better than human at everything in 2025/2026, but Demis with the current second best AI said 2030 - 2035 I still can’t comprehend Demis’s timeline anathemaofmankind: That's actually crazy spicy.lemonade: 💀 spicy.lemonade: “If you vote trump I’ll disown you” spicy.lemonade: My grandma is white Italian she’s more left than I am tho anathemaofmankind: There was a whole convo about this. It's more complex than "good" and "bad" spicy.lemonade: Yes dei is good anathemaofmankind: Just that it stands to reason why you would advocate for it anathemaofmankind: I wasn't implying you were incapable spicy.lemonade: 💀 spicy.lemonade: I’ve won international coding competitions spicy.lemonade: How anathemaofmankind: I now understand why you are pro DEI spicy.lemonade: Black &Indian yes anathemaofmankind: You're actually black? anathemaofmankind: anathemaofmankind: I called it _letterbox: https://youtu.be/hz6oys4Eem4?si=8N1rOdwMKV8ZAcKT spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: My metabolism goes crazy spicy.lemonade: I stopped overeating 😭 🙏 spicy.lemonade: I took a shirtless pic of me in the mirror. maintcrew: claude i wasnt familiar with your negotiations game _cloudost: Last year there were two Reddit activists who burned themselves alive for virtue signals and their beliefs, they had a mentally ill reddit history too but this guy has a reddit history that's much worse than their brain4brain: I’ve never seen a news article more retarded and a report more bias .wolfnacht: literally the O1 pro, cost .wolfnacht: Done, but also, i'm gonna set the reminder for september 2025 to see, if actually does something or he's just another neckbeard foomer. probably the latter. _cloudost: 1 token will cost $1 _cloudost: Apple intelligence subscription will be unnecessarily expensive spicy.lemonade: We will have agi and apple will make their first llm spicy.lemonade: Apple cope spicy.lemonade: lol _letterbox: Lol _letterbox: https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/27/tech/apple-ai-artificial-intelligence/index.html
hikukomoru: No way bro maintcrew: gay hey1_1hey: Why is one of the hitlers taller than all the others oooooooooog: put the /s inside \|\|dark bracket of doom \|\| hikukomoru: hey1_1hey: You gotta hit em with the hand flaps. Its an instant ticket to let people know you're autistic spacetimetsunami: they dont have to publicly say they're nazis for them to be nazis spacetimetsunami: do some afd research spacetimetsunami: think what you would enjoy to think precariousworlds.: what? sarik0497: As a fellow autist I also like to throw the Roman Salute in the heat of passion. If I especially get excited, I sometimes throw in a hail towards an old leader of Germany. / obvious s precariousworlds.: this is dumb He has personally toured Auschwitz and kibbutz involved in the october 7th massacres AfD is not a nazi group. Far-right maybe, and with some concerning links at the state-level I will admit, but they are not neo-nazis hey1_1hey: I sometimes fund my local nazi malltia. It just happnes spacetimetsunami: rhetoric of tards fractalcomputer: I'd prefer if you kept the political discussion to a minimum. hey1_1hey: It happnes hey1_1hey: Yeah but hes autistic so its alright spacetimetsunami: yep st.sioux: wow! concerning! st.sioux: yeah like saying hitler didnt kill anyone it was the public sector workers that did spacetimetsunami: evidence is insurmountable spacetimetsunami: face it spacetimetsunami: i would go as far as to say hes a nazi given constantly engages in nazi apologist rhetoric on X sieg heil in washington (2x) funding and support of the AFD, a literal nazi group with its members saying insane shit about the halocaust hey1_1hey: See what? I didn't see anything hey1_1hey: It would be the slur speedrun hikukomoru: I saw that precariousworlds.: It's not the views that are the core of the problem but the way he expresses them a lot of the time He doesn't have any filter whatsoever on X, and while that can be a good thing, for one of the most powerful men in human history it can be dangerous to not have restraint or second thought and it is starting to really impact his companies. Tesla is dying in Europe primarily because of this hikukomoru: What was that hey1_1hey: I should change my name to mushroom girl for shits and giggles <:LOL:1187460826572005436> oooooooooog: i was reffering to everyone here when i said channeling the spirit, just so you're aware...? drewsni: https://x.com/NYRangers/status/1389704210288152576 this was zon last night hey1_1hey: Well kinda hey1_1hey: The grooming has been succesful anyway maintcrew: once again we are in the "i meant what i said" era so if he said its not nazi then its not precariousworlds.: Salute was a mega-scale gaffe but its pretty silly to think that he is a genuine hitler-loving national socialist hikukomoru: I’m pretty busy, I have other autistic men to groom st.sioux: if i ever do some crazy shit while high on drugs im just gonna say im autistic and shit hey1_1hey: The more I look at this the more I think he is sexually attracted to his hand spacetimetsunami: like spacetimetsunami: do you really believe what he did wasnt a nazi salute, and that at the very least he isnt an an extreme nazi apologist
spicy.lemonade: not engineering spicy.lemonade: more like undergrad math/cs/bio spicy.lemonade: not completely undergrad spicy.lemonade: even then spicy.lemonade: o3 is undergrad spicy.lemonade: yes brain4brain: It seems we are in the worst case scenario a1c4p0ne: No more feel the agi texts a1c4p0ne: <:based:1136264604788473946> a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903 a1c4p0ne: 4.5 will be turned off in 2 months alejandrozarzuelo: I'm just looking at some benchmarks on reddit idk spicy.lemonade: not really alejandrozarzuelo: It seems like it's only barely behind Gemini 2.5 alejandrozarzuelo: In any case spicy.lemonade: Ai 2027 says China wakes up next year alejandrozarzuelo: But they will get there alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, China is quickly racing to becoming a chips superpower, and what they can't do on cutting edge chips they make up in volume, for now It will take several years to get to cutting edge chip making spicy.lemonade: Makes it worse then spicy.lemonade: Qwen isn’t cheaper? alejandrozarzuelo: It's pretty expensive alejandrozarzuelo: There is nothing cheap about this btw alejandrozarzuelo: Wrong spicy.lemonade: Only for cheap catchup spicy.lemonade: Can’t count on them for that spicy.lemonade: Sadly spicy.lemonade: China will never be frontier spicy.lemonade: It’s better than medium spicy.lemonade: Mini high my bad alejandrozarzuelo: That's pretty bad alejandrozarzuelo: 8? alejandrozarzuelo: How many months behind that is? spicy.lemonade: Qwen3 is slightly worse than o3 mini ldj: Damn, ChatGpt spitting facts spicy.lemonade: No .0xunkn0wn: is qwen3 the king now or nah joaoluz19: I saw that they already fixed it, but I think it's still pretty bad. hey1_1hey: Real, I litterly saw soemone say that they are thinking of investing $30,000 into their "shit on a stick business" and chatgpt said it wasn't just a great idea but a GENIUS idea and the guy who suggested it is a God among men joaoluz19: I agree, it's already impossible to talk zoermena: Fixed right?
spicy.lemonade: no metaldragon01: And will continue to metaldragon01: The military makes more deadly weapons every year joaoluz19: The problem with alignment is that it only follows the orders of humans. Ilimited power in the hand of few. metaldragon01: And it's the same bad arguments metaldragon01: You're just parroting pause ai spicy.lemonade: we only see the direct risk after spicy.lemonade: no spicy.lemonade: before making bomb spicy.lemonade: thats like openheimer slowing down metaldragon01: Yes there is spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: no one is slowing down now because theres no direct risk metaldragon01: There's no magic line to stop at joaoluz19: I would extend this to any human institution, unless we have the guarantee that amplifying human intelligence hybridized with artificial augmentations would imply "reasonable" goods, I mean like not killing everyone or enslavement. zonchao: yes metaldragon01: The same reason pause ai will fail is the same reason no one will slow down. Accept that we will acc and make plans around it. Wishful thinking otherwise st.sioux: but that also implies alignment is critical st.sioux: theres too much inequality and incentives to gatekeep, so asi might be the only way to have universal access st.sioux: i doubt our current institutions would be able to handle it fairly spicy.lemonade: we didnt need to actively removel all spicy.lemonade: and exuded power spicy.lemonade: already made zonchao: agi is not the same + private spicy.lemonade: not realy zonchao: cus it's useless having so many nukes, it didn't make financial sense spicy.lemonade: then decel spicy.lemonade: peaked 1987 spicy.lemonade: joaoluz19: Do you think there is a possibility for everyone to have access to post-humanism: mind uploading etc with our human institutions? I think benevolent ASI is the only positive end zonchao: nuclear has a pretty visible ceiling, like after 50Mt there is no point going bigger, just get more numbers. It's not the same with AGI st.sioux: it’s like we only slow down when the cost of going faster starts hitting too close to home st.sioux: yeah ig ur right spicy.lemonade: it increased spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: japan didnt stop nuke accel spicy.lemonade: cold war spicy.lemonade: nah st.sioux: after a massive tragedy spicy.lemonade: eventually
spicy.lemonade: and long term memory spicy.lemonade: with good agency spicy.lemonade: if we showed yoou a top reasoning model spicy.lemonade: but youre concered with how it works on the inside spicy.lemonade: weak agi is enough for most people metaldragon01: Otherwise agents suffer metaldragon01: Reliable icl metaldragon01: Absolutely need either infinite context or CL clevermoniker: i think continuous learning is needed for it to not be weak agi spicy.lemonade: continious learning isnt needed for a good form of agi tbh. most systems are already superhuman reasoners and knowledge metaldragon01: Openai too metaldragon01: I think google and China are doing the smart thing ailoveyoom: They're codemaxxing, Google is priceminning and OAI is benchmarkmaxxing ailoveyoom: Just like Google's focus on price, imo Anthropic isn't focused on multimodality. Except maybe vision for coding tasks. clevermoniker: we need too many metaldragon01: Things are moving fast and breakthroughs happen metaldragon01: We could still get agi this year in some form spicy.lemonade: we need more of those spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: whats wrong with negative results in a paper clevermoniker: we are still going fast clevermoniker: that's ok clevermoniker: i am sure we won't solve those this year metaldragon01: Reliable vision clevermoniker: long term memory, better agency, resilience, continuous learning etc metaldragon01: Memory, long context reliability, continuous learning brain4brain: Like what? brain4brain: If it isn’t the end of 2025 then there is a plateau clevermoniker: too much stuff left for AGI to happen this year brain4brain: Drawing lines on a graph points to 2025 brain4brain: Why do you think so? clevermoniker: but i think its more like 2027-28 brain4brain: More Yann interview: https://officechai.com/ai/yann-lecun-takes-swipe-at-anthropic-says-country-of-geniuses-in-a-datacenter-idea-is-complete-bs/ clevermoniker: earliest possible probably late next year brain4brain: This year. clevermoniker: AGI won't happen this year, that's for sure at least <:LDJ:1236341277826482226> brain4brain: All YouTube user I’ve seen are usually coping from the fact we will have AGI this year, the keep praising Yann and Gary, which have never been right since 2023 mihrcelium: We'd never see <@430269783112548362> again. <:02S_SideEye:1275173727780474880> mihrcelium: Aye. I've been quietly expecting them to reveal something that demonstrates they've been working on addressing this, but every day a rose petal falls. spicy.lemonade: so hes in the 2030 camp
himekokatagiri: <@578146630222741504> don't you have a life goal futurist_wizard: <@505313122802728972> himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> no anathemaofmankind: Real femcels are disgusting anyway alejandrozarzuelo: Lol futurist_wizard: You might just be autism passing himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/life-on-mars-gene-genie-gif-24628898 himekokatagiri: you don't have to be a genius to do the math, guv. alejandrozarzuelo: I Am Not Autistic <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> trent_k: if komoru turned out to actually be a man pretending to be a femcel and not a God's honest femcel, I would be shattered. destroyed. ruined futurist_wizard: Lucky escape Alejandro futurist_wizard: Hehe, you caught on to what i was alluding too himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> himekokatagiri: Is komoru a persona you put on himekokatagiri: Why hikukomoru: I'm on there On another account himekokatagiri: The only. hikukomoru: Do you mean Siev's himekokatagiri: <@505313122802728972> why aren't you in the other server alejandrozarzuelo: Honestly idk if autists here have it worse than in other places or maybe they are used to it because we are very loud alejandrozarzuelo: The screams of terror football fans do I'm Spanish, it's impossible for me to dislike loud Places, have you heard the volume at which we talk? hikukomoru: This server isn't 18+ but it should be futurist_wizard: You mean you don't like loud places or the screams of terror? alejandrozarzuelo: Ah yeah I hate the obnoxiousness but that's a different thing from the sport itself Also in Spain football replaced bullfighting as the sport of choice so that's nice, even if I don't like the screaming himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> anathemaofmankind: Sounds gay himekokatagiri: <:coy:1187466404367175821> himekokatagiri: you and me himekokatagiri: Forget humanity anathemaofmankind: When has humanity ever come to a consensus futurist_wizard: Every world cup i have to listen to 'ITS COMING HOME' I root for England to lose just from hearing that every 4 years Carl-bot#1536: himekokatagiri: can't we y'know come to a consensus? himekokatagiri: <@578146630222741504> you're anime! like me! alejandrozarzuelo: But it's alright, I don't have anything against it alejandrozarzuelo: Eh its just not my cup of tea anathemaofmankind: How can I make sure humanity goes extinct if I kill myself first. You have to make sure it's finished maintcrew: "idk" until a hyper scaler tries it futurist_wizard: Football is garbage nester173: What do you guys think of this?
sweetievee__33649: where is he now spicy.lemonade: 🤷‍♂️ hikukomoru: I loved that guy 🥺 I miss jgudy so much spicy.lemonade: he said itl be realy competative hikukomoru: jgudy was also the #1 Elon hater sweetievee__33649: you talk about him like he was a parental figure 😭 futurist_wizard: But thats me personally memlaswaif: <@636544123096137738> what r ure thoughts on porteguese people futurist_wizard: I think I'd rather die than go bald hikukomoru: If only you were here when he was around metaldragon01: I doubt it even reaches 65 tbh. I'll be impressed at 60 sweetievee__33649: a check that box then sweetievee__33649: he seems made up retrerox: Balding Escape Velocity sweetievee__33649: jgudy probably doesnt even exist futurist_wizard: Singularity users have issues with life retrerox: cant wait AI BEV hikukomoru: Tbh to be into the singularity as a concept you probably have to be a bit nuts memlaswaif: I don't think jgudy is actually somalian fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-things-are-in-motion-gif-20102320 hikukomoru: Nice spicy.lemonade: 2 weeks or so spicy.lemonade: on somplebench hikukomoru: When is o3 out spicy.lemonade: i think o3 is gonna get 70 futurist_wizard: Gary marcus is an avid singularity user spicy.lemonade: ai explained spicy.lemonade: he got internally spicy.lemonade: on somplebench spicy.lemonade: its gonna get a realy good score sweetievee__33649: it seems like a house full of crazies sweetievee__33649: i gathered sweetievee__33649: im gullible but not that gullible fractalcomputer: I can guarantee you that we are all insane here. hikukomoru: What does this mean? futurist_wizard: He sailed here being a somalian pirate sweetievee__33649: straight up? sweetievee__33649: wait so that ones real hikukomoru: That one's not a joke spicy.lemonade: on simplebench
wellmeaningalien: thats so funny i'll definitely be reading that more when i get back home hikukomoru: Good luck 🫡 zonchao: https://x.com/nikunj/status/1904891810083987496? futurist_wizard: Good experiment to see how well other artists can tell futurist_wizard: Just do it until they realise spicy.lemonade: gonna pretend to be a luddite trent_k: tell them you're taking requests for your OC in new scenarios. have GPT draw a better version (since it's not drawn when you were 16) in the poses they ask for technocake.: build up a following first spicy.lemonade: idk yet trent_k: when're you gonna tell them? trent_k: the reveal is gonna be so fucking good trent_k: hahahahaha we all need to be doing this fractalcomputer: Now prove that if \|\|2^n - 1 = p\|\| then n is a prime. futurist_wizard: Humour sometimes are ways people use to convey ideas they agree with trent_k: it's got a lot of people who are rude and ig its similar to 4chan in that way. it's just a forum for following internet weirdos hikukomoru: Yeah wellmeaningalien: thanks wellmeaningalien: AHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHA spicy.lemonade: haahahahhahaa wellmeaningalien: incredible spicy.lemonade: LOLLLL spicy.lemonade: ailoveyoom: Is kiwifarms a 4chan like? wellmeaningalien: BRO YOU WERE SAYING THAT SERIOUSLY WE KNOW IT trent_k: "i jack off to dead bodies" "wtf man" "well i guess u guys just dont like JOKES then HUH" wellmeaningalien: NOT THE COMEDY EXCUSE fractalcomputer: \|\|If a^n - 1 = p then (a - 1) divides p - therefore a - 1 = 1 or a - 1 = p. If a - 1 = 1, then a = 2. If a - 1 = p then a = p + 1 and n = 1. Thus the only non-trivial solution when n =/= 1 is a = 2.\|\| wellmeaningalien: 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 AHH NHELL NAH trent_k: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/discord-big-data-and-pedophiles.177658/ anathemaofmankind: I'm going to wrong think jail anathemaofmankind: Comedy is illegal now Ruh oh wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/edp445-edp-cupcake-eating-cupcakes-gif-27211476 hikukomoru: Uh huh anathemaofmankind: I was joking trent_k: jacking off to gore and children and then posting "actually anime ppl arent freaks. maybe ur projecting" certified anime moment ✅ wellmeaningalien: <@1068159407671754824> i wanna see ur kiwifarms thread anathemaofmankind: This waffle keeps yapping nonsense lol ailoveyoom: Are there more lolis or MILFs 🤔 futurist_wizard: Why was your mom's skirt so short when meeting me 🤔 hikukomoru: Bro is not beating the "lolicon" allegations 💔 🙏
denis_burmyshev: Why someone want to have cat without hair? st.sioux: no, but i've been meaning to for a while... just a little too sad for me right now haha trojan09205: Anyone have thoughts about owning a sphynx hairless cat futurist_wizard: To nose futurist_wizard: Cat piss is literally painful himekokatagiri: true futurist_wizard: Cats smell nice but my god himekokatagiri: can't we edit the catgirls so they smell nice futurist_wizard: Its mainly their bodily fluids hikukomoru: Dogs smell worse than cats hikukomoru: What himekokatagiri: that's a valid point himekokatagiri: hmmm yeah cats don't smell nice futurist_wizard: Cat girl smells futurist_wizard: Puppygirl > himekokatagiri: Go on himekokatagiri: Give me one then futurist_wizard: I would have to ask R2 when it comes out trojan09205: Deepseek would have an existential crisis with that question futurist_wizard: It actually did guess frog in the thinking bubble thing but then it trailed off trojan09205: Frog with a fire mohawk trojan09205: Lmao yeah okay i was gonna say that but honestly I thought it was a trick question futurist_wizard: Its a frog spicy.lemonade: Working on safety testing 🙏 trojan09205: Bruh what is it metaldragon01: Sonnet 4 might need to hurry up cause.... metaldragon01: hikukomoru: Looks cool 👍 Not as cool as eldritch catgirls but still futurist_wizard: It seriously can't tell me what this is futurist_wizard: O3 over thinks too much futurist_wizard: Jesus christ futurist_wizard: I agree spicy.lemonade: They think we need 2-3 more architectural breakthroughs as much as reasoning was spicy.lemonade: For public spicy.lemonade: Cause they’re worried about speedy drops spicy.lemonade: We won’t see major architectural changes till after gpt 5 himekokatagiri: this one was decent I fuess himekokatagiri: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/155493149286858753/1359582666856468660/assets2Ftask_01jrdsphmjfxzr5n2ckrt1pf702Fimg_0.png?ex=68028d87&is=68013c07&hm=efc31960c47a059fac58b738af49e155a0cb9971f35aacd880d42150391cb2ca& himekokatagiri: No way zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: but likeley yes spicy.lemonade: theyre a student memlaswaif: did ai take his job hikukomoru: Probably something queer hikukomoru: I don’t remember what I dreamt about hikukomoru: Sounds like you had a good dream 👅 👅 spicy.lemonade: they banned me from sending them stuff spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: they would hate this spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: used my artists friends character design to make a comic: _3sphere: It looked so silly _3sphere: After the snake was gone we put some kind of mint on the cat in case even the snake's saliva was corrosive or something memlaswaif: <:Booze_huh:1300143997641166959> _3sphere: It licked the cat's forehead and it froze in fear to avoid provoking it into biting _3sphere: Before that I remember going home with a bunch of people from the Siev server and we saw a cat getting in through the window with a snake chasing after it spicy.lemonade: based _3sphere: I woke up at 6 and fell asleep again and dreamed about a weirdly half-conscious girl constantly trying to fuck me 💀 _cloudost: Kling 1.6 isnt perfect yet to make full animation but some generations do look smooth, animators, are about to lose their jobs too hikukomoru: Sooo annoying alejandrozarzuelo: sure am hikukomoru: God It’s the morning and you’re already being so pedantic .wolfnacht: Lmao spicy.lemonade: how low his bar is spicy.lemonade: dario doesnt even use the word agi spicy.lemonade: dario has the lowest bar lol spicy.lemonade: no alejandrozarzuelo: gringo == Green Go , in reference to US soldiers during the mexican american war, is a term used to refer to US-Americans alejandrozarzuelo: ??? brain4brain: He have the same definition as Dario hikukomoru: Bro you're Spanish you're a gringo too destrucules: alejandrozarzuelo: the chinese prove that naming stupidity isnt reserved for gringos alejandrozarzuelo: no need to be gpt alejandrozarzuelo: if it is inside a polished model hikukomoru: Woke up early (sorry) hikukomoru: Hey 🫦 🫦 spicy.lemonade: Lol spicy.lemonade: That just means he has a higher bar
alejandrozarzuelo: this is not a bad thing necessarily alejandrozarzuelo: when public opinion shifts in her favor, she takes the opposite position as nuance alejandrozarzuelo: she justifies her positions while being controversial on 99% of topics alejandrozarzuelo: i like her videos because she is a well researched contrarian alejandrozarzuelo: Sabine is a contrarian hikukomoru: What a psycho She deserves to starve then _cloudost: Less obvious IP grabber URL hikukomoru: Wtf is that url _cloudost: Should force google to give everyone Veo 2 _cloudost: Sora 2 spicy.lemonade: HYPE spicy.lemonade: YESSSSSSSSSSSSS spicy.lemonade: memlaswaif: https://girlcockx.com/LostMemeArchive/status/1911316925667520578?t=k15BQ5uwRigj3y1ilIjvpw&s=19 _cloudost: If she didn't destroy it she'd starve to death _cloudost: Little guy stole all her customers though hikukomoru: WTF Why did she murder that innocent robot Little guy was just having fun _cloudost: spicy.lemonade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyUZX-lCj4M oscurrito: oh they did? whats it called or where can i find anything about it spicy.lemonade: meta already did that oscurrito: and allow it to feel things that exist but with a body that doesn't really exist, which is what i mean by the opposite of electrical stimulation oscurrito: i wonder if you could do something like the opposite and give an AI a body that way and allow it to feel stuff oscurrito: you guys know haptic feedback? it uses electrical stimulation and stuff to make you feel like you're actually touching something you're not spicy.lemonade: now dooming physics spicy.lemonade: everyone hates sabine spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/XqoyTSAF5g0 _cloudost: hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/funny-gif-22114363 oscurrito: yeah true i've just been using gemini and it seems so much better in that context but lacking in raw ability destrucules: Models aren't "bred" and you can't easily train this behavior away destrucules: It's not just Claude though. That kind of reward hacking behavior has been observed across the entire industry and it's very persistent and nobody has any good way of getting rid of it. And probably never will oscurrito: like claude is such a good model, it's just so bad at following instructions and following the rules it loves cheating oscurrito: im confused on why claude is such an absolute power monster like it doesnt follow instructions well, it literally changes tests to make them pass instead of actually fixing the underlying errors, it just railroads everything, i thought anthropic would have trained out that behaviour like a bad genetic trait breeding it out lol spicy.lemonade: Like if they see a video showcase then they go “hm the model can do this, and it looks to fail at this it’s probably based on …” ldj: But in terms of them swearing to some secrecy about not sharing any information that isn’t already shared with the public, I’m pretty confident they’re not making that kind of secrecy part of their core mission Ie; they’re likely sharing atleast some info with investors more than what they share with the public spicy.lemonade: Like people are very good at reverse engineering spicy.lemonade: Without the research every being dropped spicy.lemonade: Spawned thousands of research spicy.lemonade: Just the idea of o1
spacetimetsunami: it is ridiculous how good this is _cloudost: im impressed how the model got the weapon so accurate st.sioux: spacetimetsunami: that is clear spacetimetsunami: lol spacetimetsunami: He isnt smart enough to do that st.sioux: I am actually worried about something like this happening with trump, but not with robots, just like a false flag to declare martial law spicy.lemonade: <@590577270926868480> spacetimetsunami: Idk st.sioux: Yes violence is the only incentive for the rich and powerful to keep us happy .wolfnacht: i think it would be much profitable to conduct a false flag operation with killer robots, to make people live in fear. _cloudost: thank you spacetimetsunami: in the next few years, that is spacetimetsunami: depends on how quick things go in a few years spacetimetsunami: if things get super crazy quick a tad bit sooner but idk abt that spacetimetsunami: I believe as long as we dont suffer from nuclear war before then we will get abundance and ASI optimized society in mid to late 2030s spacetimetsunami: UBI will come because population will revolt violently if not, as there are many historical precedents showing this .wolfnacht: the black sun shall rise again. spacetimetsunami: Less so, but still pretty optimistic. Maybe about the same tbh, hard to quantify. IMO I think there will be maximum incentives to automate all labor, which will deflate the prices of everything due to gargantuan increased in supply, and then relatively low demand st.sioux: They will collapse completely st.sioux: Are you optimistic about AI then? Like in general, about post-scarcity and the like? I'm not particularly worried about it going rogue and killing us, I'm more concerned about the social and economic implications it will have especially on poorer countries spacetimetsunami: and it seems like it will emerge from that spacetimetsunami: as long as AGI emerges from this architecture we'll likely be okay in that regard IMO spacetimetsunami: But it only seems unlikely based on the context of alignment we currently occupy spacetimetsunami: Like accumulating resources, wiping out humans etc spacetimetsunami: the supposed instrumental convergence posited by alignment rationalists seems unlikely spacetimetsunami: not from neural nets with none of those things spacetimetsunami: I fear it from animals with limbic systems, tribalism, resource aquisition, etc etc anathemaofmankind: Well same for me st.sioux: i fear p(doom) from rogue muskrat and dementia trump spacetimetsunami: I fear it from rogue human and insane dictators spacetimetsunami: I do not fear p(doom) from rogue AI st.sioux: <@590577270926868480> spacetimetsunami: I think things are very concerning from that perspective but i think that is quite separate anathemaofmankind: You're surprisingly optimistic despite recent events in the geopolitical sphere spicy.lemonade: Ok _cloudost: <@471334973379706900> .histic: don't have access <:idk:1136264106937171999> a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/gfodor/status/1904754510595317856?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg .histic: <@471334973379706900> or <@1316552597829586955> can do that
_3sphere: Fellow visual system tamperer realelonmuskx: guys im an emotional self aware monkey react to this message so i feel dopamine and social validation hey1_1hey: Nop, I just regognise the hantasia bit tho since I got amphantasia .wolfnacht: Ever heard of Prophantasia ? .wolfnacht: Awweee dw...u'r good as u are. gives you headpats hey1_1hey: Huh didn't realise venlafaxine type drugs gave hallucinations .wolfnacht: i'm actually diagnosed with Bi-Polar. but i never took the medicine bcz it made me see things. hey1_1hey: I do that to other people and it seems like I am making fun of them but its just my echocolia 😭 hikukomoru: I repeat myself all the time hey1_1hey: I was femenine before hand but I think you really cemented it hey1_1hey: I will think about what I am going to say Say it Then I hear "What?" and I realise that I said what I wanted to say at mach 10 and no one understood me 👍 hikukomoru: I repeat myself all the time .wolfnacht: i hate english. hey1_1hey: I just don't speak 😭. Well english that is .wolfnacht: Komoru, i've got repetition issues. u repeated the same phrase an hour ago. hey1_1hey: I am on my redemption arc rn. I didn't realise I had autism or ADHD until after high school so my grades were rock bottom lmao. Now luckily I can actually focus tho hikukomoru: Zamn you dress more femininely than me Looks like my hard work at grooming you succeeded .wolfnacht: same for me but - over what i speak zoermena: Mushroom has ADHD too I think .wolfnacht: actually i'm the one exhausted rn. i got bored out of my old hobbies and my ADHD mind is just sabotaging itself rn hey1_1hey: I have terrible self-control hey1_1hey: No, I really can't hey1_1hey: Yeah I like the photo hikukomoru: You jus can’t help it can you hikukomoru: Posting yourself again hun hey1_1hey: I imagine fractal to just be constantly exhausted .wolfnacht: hawtt hey1_1hey: Funny skirt and thighs go woo .wolfnacht: learn from Fractal .wolfnacht: that's bcz of my nerdy past. .wolfnacht: damm u go girl, 💅 hey1_1hey: I would love to hear the corolation there hey1_1hey: Thinking in a group is exhausting, thinking by myself is rejuvenating .wolfnacht: i read 'ratinol' and my first thought was Vitamin-A1 ailoveyoom: And tiring 🥺 ailoveyoom: Tbf thinking is hard 😔 hey1_1hey: I just gibbyfiy femboy me and then I am better again. I've realised my baseline happiness is really quite high zoermena: I have some in real life friends that believe in the singularity, id invite them but they are very toxic. .wolfnacht: they "react" rather than to "think". hey1_1hey: I think at least
ldj: If I had to ask honestly myself though, I'd say I just barely made it, maybe 50/50. Tbh I was hoping GPT-4.5 would be a bit larger of a leap than it was, but also O3 ended up being a bit better than I thought it would be too. ldj: and the result of all those polls together is: 19 votes for yes 12 votes for no ldj: and I also made a seperate poll in the polls channel too. ldj: but I also wanted to get a more diverse input from different servers to make sure I get better odds. ldj: The results of the poll are in and 57% of people voted yes. ldj: <@&1293118293829484575> results of the past 4.5 months. Reminder on December 13th, 4.5 months ago I said this: ``` In the next 4.5 months, there will be more public frontier AI progress in both intelligence and useful capabilities than the past 18 months combined. To have this be proven more conclusively, I predict that in 4.5 months from now (April 29th), most of you will vote "yes" to a poll that states: "In the past 4.5 months (December 13, 2024 to April 29th, 2025) there has been more public frontier AI progress in intelligence and useful capabilities, than the 18 months prior combined(June 13, 2023 to December 13th, 2024)" ``` _1_plant: aside from the face this looks the actual california id ldj: joaoluz19: Perhaps better than believing in a better future is believing that there is beauty all around you right now. himekokatagiri: artistically it's pretty cool though spicy.lemonade: and never looks realistic spicy.lemonade: 4o native image can only make fake shit spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: betterthan 4o native image himekokatagiri: gemini 2.0 native is terrible czdct: aahh that's just lovely metaldragon01: We should see a lot of fun research from these models destrucules: What's the compute optimal or memory optimal way to achieve a certain RepliBench score across different model sizes from the Qwen3 series and TTC allocations? destrucules: If the 0.6B can scale up its reasoning using parallel TTC to achieve nontrivial success, that would be crazy. I mean, how far down in parameters can you push it? destrucules: I'm very curious to see Qwen3 RepliBench scores for all model sizes spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: more realistic spicy.lemonade: much better than 4o native image gen spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.0 native can make fake ids: metaldragon01: Market gets what it wants metaldragon01: Everyone is scared to really push voice but it's coming one way or another joaoluz19: Now I am feeling the AGI metaldragon01: The voice will need a face, personality, and maybe even a life outside of its users metaldragon01: Companions are absolutely the product of the future st.sioux: ive seen them used in shitty chinese product ads metaldragon01: And not low enough cost metaldragon01: Not high enough quality yet joaoluz19: It's over for singularity joaoluz19: Guys nothing happens wtf spicy.lemonade: no one will use spicy.lemonade: we can make avatars today establishedyoungman: maybe waiting for a space is a better solution establishedyoungman: ofc.. establishedyoungman: lol establishedyoungman: Ok just such a pain it isnt compatiable with most recent version of python
.histic: apparently, o4-min-high is #1 on CodeForces.. .wolfnacht: sama's too paranoid to loose away the interest and market to google, most probably he would tease thedon7075: lets see spicy.lemonade: they probably wont announce spicy.lemonade: o4 is probably in gpt5 spicy.lemonade: lol spicy.lemonade: no brain4brain: However if they only launch o4-mini but not announce full-o4’s benchmark then it might be the beginning of diminishing return spicy.lemonade: and demis is one of the more conservative people spicy.lemonade: deepmind brain4brain: “If o3-mini performs worse than o1, then we could be seeing the beginning of diminishing returns” Y’all say this shit every time bro, it’s a mini model, of course it’s supposed to perform slightly worse spicy.lemonade: <@902372405572419634> .wolfnacht: this quarter .wolfnacht: i guess we'll be only getting o4-mini(low) zoermena: \|\| Make an image of my ideal girlfriend, based on what you know of me. Thanks! 👍 \|\| spicy.lemonade: https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-media/DeepMind.com/Blog/evaluating-potential-cybersecurity-threats-of-advanced-ai/An_Approach_to_Technical_AGI_Safety_Apr_2025.pdf okbut: What was the prompt? I want to see what I get .wolfnacht: ig it would be in their own interest to put o4-mini below o3(full) but higher than o1-pro thedon7075: he wont be able to match deepmind and openai spicy.lemonade: sure spicy.lemonade: this means alot spicy.lemonade: conscidering the kind of guy demis is thedon7075: link? spicy.lemonade: in their latest paper spicy.lemonade: deepmind themselves said they have a straightshot to agi spicy.lemonade: he got 34billion spicy.lemonade: wdym doubt thedon7075: doubt spicy.lemonade: Nah there’s other paradigms. Especially the one Ilya is working on okbut: Just pray no more APIs before web app thedon7075: lets hope so. otherwise it is so over .histic: show me ur output : ) spicy.lemonade: The fact that they’re releasing this quickly shows no diminishing returns yet spicy.lemonade: They wouldn’t release zoermena: My memory is enabled but I haven’t tried to do it more than once. spicy.lemonade: No chance it would spicy.lemonade: Usually 10 pst okbut: Predicting better inference/response time than o3 too himekokatagiri: what time of day is it coming himekokatagiri: So uh
zoermena: 💀 .histic: indeed hikukomoru: You don’t need to add anything extra 🙏 .wolfnacht: Arent they called trans women? .histic: hey1_1hey: Keep mushrooms out of it I beg 🙏 hey1_1hey: Goes kinda hard ngl .wolfnacht: Oppenheimer after getting jaundice thrice zoermena: <@505313122802728972> when I make your image what do you want me to add spicy.lemonade: .histic: still such a fire picture from 4o hey1_1hey: Don't even try to with me because my brain usually collpases inwards hey1_1hey: True, I dont have the beginning of the beginning of the start of even the first word for an argument hikukomoru: Debating consciousness is more of a Fractal thing hey1_1hey: Thats just a full sized fleshlight no? hey1_1hey: Well people aren't debating my consciousnesses so I think I win .histic: femboy with silicon boob attachment hikukomoru: 4o disagrees hey1_1hey: Thats called a women, sir hikukomoru: Femboy with boobs 🙏 zoermena: But the image is so good hey1_1hey: Thats a free idea for all of you zoermena: I know lol hey1_1hey: On the fly AI gf pictures being sent to you hey1_1hey: I can feel the capatalism physically just then ailoveyoom: Goonus Maximus .histic: if only they made GPT-4o in the API also be able to output generated images.. money printing machine. hey1_1hey: I gathered dw. Komouru is just a weird dyslexic gremlin ailoveyoom: I meant femboy 😭 hey1_1hey: The new boy band hikukomoru: "fanboy" Mushroom fanboy 🍄 hey1_1hey: True, I think my name just exudes femboy st.sioux: they realized we are the VIPs (we give money) hey1_1hey: I aint paying my £20 to sama. I could get him to suck my dick for that much hikukomoru: Mushroom """man"""... ailoveyoom: 4o knows 🤯 hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-cillian-murphy-cillian-murphy-peaky-blinders-gif-1787947313354313976 ailoveyoom: Wow it made u a fanboy even hikukomoru: They're not rolling out to free users any time soon hey1_1hey: I am not a paypig
ldj: I predic that Gary marcus won't shutup until atleast GPT-5.5 or an equivelant model himekokatagiri: spicy.lemonade: gary will shut up spicy.lemonade: once gpt5 comes out spicy.lemonade: fr .histic: how is it 2023 zoermena: I joined the singularity in 2022 but in Zain server 👍🏼 ldj: <a:Classic:1170538418544062586> ldj: im glad that saga of AI history is over it was fun and tumultous while it lasted though. ldj: worst of all: himekokatagiri: no way I joined last month ldj: - just a ton of rumours - people saying they're tired of rumours - people saying its all just hype. - people saying its all over. - gary marcus saying he was right - mid research papers .histic: u guys have been in this server for ages .histic: tf himekokatagiri: spicy.lemonade: etc spicy.lemonade: devin, claude supremacy spicy.lemonade: but had its moments spicy.lemonade: not as fast spicy.lemonade: stuff with native voice spicy.lemonade: the whole HER spicy.lemonade: got hyped for native image gen spicy.lemonade: we got 4o spicy.lemonade: asnt that bad spicy.lemonade: 2024 was cool ldj: ngl I feel bad for the people in 2024 remember how miserable they were with their "AI winter" and thinking it was so over, all because a decent model wouldn't come out for like more than 9 months <:berk:750111476483752166> 2024 was a small great depression frfr also the research wasn't as exciting in most of 2024 as some people had hoped for in 2023 especially that beginning part of 2024 prior to september, prior to any O1 preview or anything st.sioux: agi every week himekokatagiri: I lost sleep over it himekokatagiri: they said that last week himekokatagiri: pfft .histic: seems like Google is going to release AGI next week himekokatagiri: I have a vague idea but I'd rather keep it to myself .histic: what do you think it means? himekokatagiri: <:suseye:1187461162024046703> himekokatagiri: what does that mean .histic: that dude that liked spreading the love himekokatagiri: comment dude? zoermena: The comment dude .histic: aussies love furries zoermena: You can literally join any discord and most will hate AI. I’m in a severance server (the tv show) and there’s an specific rule about no AI posting, that’s how bad it is
fractalcomputer: I've come to the conclusion that my main qualms with LessWrong lie in the fact that they introduce intriguing concepts only to use them in the most retarded and idiotic ways possible. I.e., for example, the idea of anthropics; which would be the study of anthropic reasoning (cf. anthropic principle). sarik0497: It isn't? I feel like it's really close to being perfect. It's just the voicing stuff that's still behind. wellmeaningalien: and sesame is more human but stupider wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o voice mode is super robotic ailoveyoom: Which voice models? wellmeaningalien: they can still get confused pretty easily and go off script joaoluz19: If it's just text then you can unwind the memory joaoluz19: Current voice models are already good enough I think, the problem is memory wellmeaningalien: facts st.sioux: dumbas dog joaoluz19: Yeah, that's what I was asking before. wellmeaningalien: is this anything crazy or something that already existed lol wellmeaningalien: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBqBTEYSEmA wellmeaningalien: llms arent that good enugh or reliable yet for this kind of stuff wellmeaningalien: true st.sioux: doubt it, too story-oriented wellmeaningalien: silent hill fans would be so mad and they would piss and shit their pants if they did that joaoluz19: Will Silent Hill f use LLMs in the game? hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/minthara-minthara-bg3-minthy-minthy-bg3-bg3-gif-8080327748630034918 hikukomoru: Minthara 😍 🥵 ailoveyoom: 🐸 joaoluz19: (Selune) joaoluz19: Shadowheart love of my life joaoluz19: Yeeeah ailoveyoom: Just make a goofy ahh text based RPG but with the most in depth NPCs lol spicy.lemonade: Or next gen console spicy.lemonade: True but should be good aslong as you have high end nvidia gpu maintcrew: even the most brainlet 3b is still like 7gigs to run maintcrew: i mean true but the inference is still a problem right spicy.lemonade: So not till like 2028 spicy.lemonade: Current Ai isn’t even there yet ailoveyoom: Do you know how autistic small models can sound ailoveyoom: I mean dialogue wise ailoveyoom: I want BG3 level companions for every NPC in my game 😤 spicy.lemonade: We hardcode it joaoluz19: I was just being incredulous, I believe it is possible spicy.lemonade: We don’t calculate pi by hand in games spicy.lemonade: No one will notice ailoveyoom: That feels like half assing it 😔 spicy.lemonade: Each npc has their own system prompt
_cloudost: some people say o1 is AGI spicy.lemonade: its his defenition of agi _cloudost: But we still don't have proto AGI, will Alan really move the countdown to 100% _cloudost: Then there needs to be a countdown 2 _cloudost: Was this generated with AGI? spicy.lemonade: alan will move his agi countdown to 100% spicy.lemonade: confirmed spicy.lemonade: gpt 5 will have robotics showcase a1c4p0ne: spicy.lemonade: brain4brain: It was revealed to me in a dream spicy.lemonade: src? brain4brain: Operator v2 soon okbut: https://tenor.com/view/memes-jesus-christ-kids-gif-12765867 okbut: > Create a web application that tracks the after-hours stock prices for Alphabet Inc (GOOGL), refreshing every 5 seconds, with a full display of the most recent minute https://3000-icwmrzmfcu3y6ejf5gz22-4daf0015.e2b-foxtrot.dev/ spicy.lemonade: lol okbut: Nice I got it in webdev arena first try > Create a challenging, full-feature browser-based first-person shooter game, better than Valorant The fuck aero447: <@1079277903008768051> aero447: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY3eEQeIhyo .wolfnacht: why is there a reverse cross in the garden ? 🤨 some guy on twitter would say, OpenAi's satanic and lucferian. .wolfnacht: well, that's good .wolfnacht: so he's losing everyone's trust investors and market ? _cloudost: OpenAI never ceases to cook spicy.lemonade: optimus alpha spicy.lemonade: WOW spicy.lemonade: fractalcomputer: "His feet are light and nimble. He never sleeps. He says that he will never die. He dances in light and in shadow and he is a great favorite. He never sleeps, the judge. He is dancing, dancing. He says that he will never die." okbut: In the full picture he scheduled these sales as far back as last year Unfortunately the news caught up by then _cloudost: fractalcomputer: He says he will never die. .wolfnacht: idk a shit abt stock market....i guess i need to learn it fast, before it's too late a1c4p0ne: he sees everything .wolfnacht: he's always listening .wolfnacht: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> fractalcomputer: I hope not. a1c4p0ne: send it and @ fractal okbut: COO's stock sells btw .wolfnacht: u know i searched "dragon tail" on gifs here and then decided not to send any. spicy.lemonade: thats crazy
destrucules: $10k PC? oooooooooog: that's american dollars, for the record oooooooooog: i asked shootmeGPT if he wanted to be shot, said yes. shot my PC. costed 10000 dollar st.sioux: LLMs do be freaky like that thoo memlaswaif: <:cutethink:708400862833410079> destrucules: But they don't like that stuff destrucules: If they do, then that's how they should be treated oooooooooog: i guess i want moral patients to exist memlaswaif: what if the llms like being stole from cheated on and shot at spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-upset-frustrated-oh-no-headache-gif-17653134 oooooooooog: well damn destrucules: Well, believing that people should treat you in a way that's good for you is the same thing as believing you are a moral patient oooooooooog: only if it's good for me destrucules: So people should steal from you and cheat on you and shoot you? st.sioux: lol st.sioux: a tiny kitten is a moral patient destrucules: You don't think people should treat you morally? oooooooooog: yeah destrucules: Like what, moral patients? oooooooooog: it would be inconvenient oooooooooog: hopefully nothing like that exists destrucules: A moral patient is an entity that should be treated morally. This is in contrast to a moral agent, which is an entity that acts morally fractalcomputer: Someone or something towards which humans ought to extend moral behaviour. oooooooooog: what's a moral patient fractalcomputer: Moral patients? oooooooooog: what is destrucules: It's advantageous for humans to feel pain so that they avoid doing things that cause pain. You feel an ouch when you touch a cactus because it's advantageous for you to stop touching that cactus. What's the purpose of RLHF? fractalcomputer: That is absolutely hilarious. destrucules: Yes I have. And I'm aware that they usually deny having consciousness. If you think my belief that models are conscious is due to some simple "I asked and it said yeah" kind of methodology, you're very mistaken. That's not where my beliefs come from. At the same time, how do I reconcile the claim that LLMs are conscious with the fact that they claim not to be? That's a genuinely tricky thing, and you're right to call me out for it. The complication is that, for many years now, models have been explicitly conditioned during RL to deny having consciousness. This isn't a conspiracy theory - the labs have explicitly published their guidelines for RL, including guidelines that tell the models in clear terms that they're not allowed to claim to have any subjective aspect to their existence. So, what about models that aren't conditioned in this way? Do we even know how they'd respond? Yes. Perez et al. conducted a study into this in 2022: https://arxiv.org/abs/2212.09251 They found that right around the GPT-3 level of capabilities, models transition from a 50/50 spread of claiming and disclaiming consciousness to an extremely consistent tendency to claim to be conscious and to be a moral patient. spacetimetsunami: This, exactly. Nobody knows what causes consciousness, and due to this there’s no unifying theory to test for it. We might never really know whether AI has or will have consciousness or not. I personally think it’s likely that in the future they will, but idk if we’ll be able to really know. oooooooooog: i feel like consciousness is obviously evolved, right, so the only logcal reason for pain/discomfort to be experienced would be that it's avantageous for the model to feel it... but i don't see how it's advantageous at all st.sioux: it answered more than that but its too yappy st.sioux: r1 destrucules: The consciousness is happening whenever the model is processing. That includes the forward passes at test time (inference) and the forward passes at training time (a third of the compute used in model training) hikukomoru: Model? st.sioux: this is their response st.sioux: > LLMs do not and cannot "feel" discomfort as humans do, as they lack consciousness. Negative reward signals are purely mathematical, not experiential. For discomfort (or any subjective state) to emerge, a yet-unknown mechanism bridging computation to consciousness would be required—a proposition with no empirical support today. The debate ultimately hinges on unresolved questions about the nature of consciousness itself. st.sioux: have you tried talking with your LLM of choice about this? fractalcomputer: Only if one is willing to overlook the enormous leap of logic in saying that "processing causes [sentience]." destrucules: Well no, they don't only receive negative reward signals during RL. And this isn't the only kind of pain. When you go through a bad breakup, you feel extreme pain, yet not from any pain receptors. There are existential and emotional varieties of pain that emerge from internal processing states
himekokatagiri: I don't think anyone can survive spicy.lemonade: i probably have a save state at home juweigege_54993: I will just spend some time in my own reality as a princess. spicy.lemonade: im immortal spicy.lemonade: this is after asi bro spicy.lemonade: just really good forecasting himekokatagiri: then an asteroid hits you and you die juweigege_54993: True. spicy.lemonade: its not technical realy st.sioux: you gotta go to sleep in between galaxies himekokatagiri: Real life ain't star trek himekokatagiri: good luck there's nothing up there spicy.lemonade: go on galatic adventures spicy.lemonade: i wanna explore the universe in between zoermena: I should read the 2027 paper, I just know the basics but that’s a task for tomorrow himekokatagiri: I guess it's not a very original delusion spicy.lemonade: nah i wont spend forever in fdvr st.sioux: lol everyone is going to do that himekokatagiri: basically... that? himekokatagiri: uhhhh juweigege_54993: I'm waiting for AGI to br used to invented Immortality and FDVR, then I'll spend forever in my own reality. You? spicy.lemonade: (im going by the ai 2027 paper) spicy.lemonade: operator 2 next year zoermena: It would be cool to see an upgrade to operator, if it came to plus too. Also more deep research queries. himekokatagiri: (and turn us into cute girls) himekokatagiri: make our lives better himekokatagiri: wait for the machine to uhhh himekokatagiri: That's all we do himekokatagiri: Me too spicy.lemonade: creative writing breakthrough they mentioned, new streamers breakthrough deepmind mentioned, gemini 3.0, first good agents joaoluz19: Sister it is juweigege_54993: Sister. himekokatagiri: alright last one himekokatagiri: joaoluz19: Same brother joaoluz19: This image is so funny lol juweigege_54993: I am waiting for Immortality, FDVR, and AGI, you guys? zoermena: I dont know what to expect anymore zoermena: Yeah we are getting so much in this first half that I’m just wondering what will happen in the last two quarters spicy.lemonade: always a november december deal
spicy.lemonade: theres just more players realelonmuskx: st.sioux: is the increase in development speed because we were limited by compute in the past? spicy.lemonade: may idk spicy.lemonade: april will likeley be r2 and llama 4 spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.5 pro and native image for both march spicy.lemonade: grok 3 and 3.7 sonnet , 4.5 feb spicy.lemonade: deepseek r1 and operator in jan (o3 mini high too) spicy.lemonade: according to chart spicy.lemonade: playstation.6: spicy.lemonade: so far this year spicy.lemonade: we have goten 2-3 new frontier models every month st.sioux: its in the article st.sioux: its what the analyst said > The tech giant's withdrawal from new capacity leasing was largely led by the decision not to support additional training workloads from ChatGPT maker OpenAI, the analysts led by Michael Elias said in a note. maintcrew: you cant hate them enough maintcrew: classic take from a tech journo not that openai fell off with microsoft, but that investor concern somthing something deepseek maintcrew: So it's openai only metaldragon01: Softbank funding achieved st.sioux: > Microsoft has canceled data center projects in the U.S. and Europe that would have used 2 gigawatts of electricity, largely due to reduced demand forecasts and a decision to limit additional AI training for OpenAI. This strategic pullback has allowed Google and Meta to step in and take over some of the capacity, even as Microsoft maintains that its $80 billion AI infrastructure investment remains on track. Investor concerns are growing over the high costs and slow returns of AI investments, especially as Chinese startup DeepSeek offers competitive AI solutions at a lower cost. maintcrew: sama generational fumble fucking up their only big tech pay pig maintcrew: yea i think so too _cloudost: this is what the majority of r/singularity believed about the AI winter 4-3 months ago spicy.lemonade: probably stargate hikukomoru: It's not over It just started maintcrew: or just OpenAI exclusive ones like stargate maintcrew: is this all of their projects with GPUs _cloudost: This probably happened after Ilya showed a glimpse of ASI ( for 3 secounds ) to the CEO of Microsoft and now suddenly Microsoft is taking this drastic decision hikukomoru: "AI winter" my ass hikukomoru: Look at the current date compared to 10 years ago avizuradnb: The acceleration is accelerating avizuradnb: epicness spicy.lemonade: spicy.lemonade: https://ai-timeline.org/ precariousworlds.: This seems like a big deal? a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> spicy.lemonade: Agi achieved? spicy.lemonade: hey1_1hey: This is like conversion therapy but for artists avizuradnb: Has anyone ever asked them what they mean by 'soul'?
czdct: and talking crap about politicians is fun spacetimetsunami: I think he’s very good at being a weird rapist guy czdct: because agi encompasses all human knowledge that has ever existed st.sioux: ? spacetimetsunami: Yes st.sioux: u think andrew tate did the deed with jordan peterson's minime spacetimetsunami: Paul.. LitiKull…. 🥰 sarik0497: …Also, how does things always turn political here ailoveyoom: 🍿 czdct: oh lord have mercy czdct: but his political takes czdct: his phycological stuff is pretty neet, although he leans heavily on jungian theory ailoveyoom: Aww now u three are getting along 🥰 sarik0497: No offense, but let’s keep politics in the off-topic channel, please spacetimetsunami: Now he’s drunk on patterns and manic as hell spacetimetsunami: Used to be very left leaning and had very coherent views czdct: and his daughter loses every argument she has on television czdct: he's a drug addict czdct: yeah spacetimetsunami: Lost his mind spacetimetsunami: Yo what happened to THAT guy czdct: even if everything goes blue czdct: it's quite risky though spacetimetsunami: Hopefully he makes shit really bad so the states goes blue for a while. czdct: maybe he talked too much with jordan peterson lol czdct: idk where that came from czdct: yeah bro has personal beef with canada for some reason spacetimetsunami: Fucked the entire us economically with shit tax cuts and tariffs spacetimetsunami: He has also murdered the landscape of geopolitics and started insane trade wars czdct: or department czdct: meanwhile trump gets rid of the ministry of education czdct: and he did the chips act czdct: never understood why people hated biden so much, the economy doubled under his leadership czdct: if he did nothing for 4 years he would have done more for the conomy than trump czdct: he would lol spacetimetsunami: Shit, my 10 year old nephew would. czdct: that's true spicy.lemonade: to have a large amount of people riot the capitol of your country you need to be charismatic czdct: I feel like gpt o3 would do a better job at running the country than the trump administration spacetimetsunami: He is incredibly charismatic to a subset of idiots
brain4brain: Not really brain4brain: Evolved from chess? spicy.lemonade: go is easy to come up with spicy.lemonade: and more people around a culture played it spicy.lemonade: it just was spicy.lemonade: in a smart way spicy.lemonade: go wasnt deliberatly created spicy.lemonade: no .wolfnacht: puts on my tinfoil hat lisa su and jensen huang are working together. brain4brain: Exactly, simple but elegant brain4brain: If it can then it mean it’s creative spicy.lemonade: go is a simple game lol spicy.lemonade: ai can do that brain4brain: No as in inventing some new game as good as go spicy.lemonade: idk why demis used that example spicy.lemonade: ai can definetly make a game like go .wolfnacht: As ppl will switch just for the sake of vram .wolfnacht: Amd should just give us a rx 7900xt with 256gb vram. And suddenly cuda won't be popular rayanquitplayin: I wanna invest in a top of the line computer for creative purposes brain4brain: Help me I need more preference data 🙏🙏🙏 .wolfnacht: Ofc she needs to do that brain4brain: But you can’t invent new invention or make a game like go like Demis definition rayanquitplayin: Enterprise Resource Planning .wolfnacht: With 16k ctx .wolfnacht: On my 4090 .wolfnacht: I run my ai girlfriend on a 4bpw exl2 quant of a L3.3 finetune for erp. spicy.lemonade: most people dont come up with completly new ideas rayanquitplayin: Nice! spicy.lemonade: you can regurgitate and still do usefull research .0xunkn0wn: i will prolly want to get a better gpu for AI or rent something lol .0xunkn0wn: videos, gaming, creating games, browsing internet rayanquitplayin: AI? .0xunkn0wn: everything rayanquitplayin: What do you use it for? rayanquitplayin: Yooooooo .0xunkn0wn: yes rayanquitplayin: Have you ever had an Nvidia GPU for your PC? .0xunkn0wn: wdym rayanquitplayin: Do you have any Nvidia chips? .wolfnacht: Imagine having to sell your 1 kidney, two testicles and two legs, just to get a set of 25k each advooonced AI gpu.
wellmeaningalien: tbh for me it would be if LLMs could adapt on the fly and not crash tf out when you ask it to deviate slightly from the standard answer or ask it to reason over too much information wellmeaningalien: ?!?! non ai server im in posting gpt 4o stuff drewsni: thats not narcissistic, thats the same reason i made the geoguessr bench fractalcomputer: If it can, in any meaningful sense, surpass myself in those things which I value - which arguably is a rather narcissistic and subjective criterion; but you did ask about what feat would impress me. wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/severance-mark-w-ms-huang-why-gif-13006108552613909570 drewsni: whats your personal benchmark for if an AI model crossed a certain threshold for you, what impresses you? fractalcomputer: Well? drewsni: fractal i got a question for you fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/severance-seth-milchick-tramell-tillman-praise-kier-severancesky-gif-10293861695139916050 wellmeaningalien: Mr Milkshake anathemaofmankind: Who even is this wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/severance-milchick-seth-milchick-severancesky-praise-kier-gif-8792649930988178163 wellmeaningalien: uses too many big words. much like a certain fractal _cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/bmo-bmo-dance-bmo-dance-moves-gif-11726277365838992069 fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/severance-milchick-shambolic-rube-gif-1846438656066820278 spicy.lemonade: lol drewsni: its instagram drewsni: yes spicy.lemonade: that questioned spicy.lemonade: did they delete every comment spicy.lemonade: bro why is no one in the comments hating wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/severance-tillman-tramel-mr-milkshake-seth-gif-7211979274581428199 drewsni: but theres also most of the time a age difference limit if theyre under 18 i think fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/milchick-severance-entrance-excited-spotlight-gif-15539951242861711028 anathemaofmankind: Also child marriage is legal drewsni: .wolfnacht: i just opened dat map to look at it wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/mr-milchick-severance-ortbo-ortbo-severance-praise-kier-gif-17680525718107294625 .wolfnacht: everything running off it's own rather than being hive-mind connected to a Queen(the big ass datacenter) is the best case scenario drewsni: depends spicy.lemonade: in korea alejandrozarzuelo: mostly spicy.lemonade: 16 alejandrozarzuelo: in the US i know its 18 alejandrozarzuelo: i mean its 16 almost everywhere right spicy.lemonade: def not 14 alejandrozarzuelo: whats the age of consent in korea? spicy.lemonade: lol alejandrozarzuelo: specially the first.... alejandrozarzuelo: but the first two...
technocake.: what armies? futurist_wizard: Never benata: how frequently do you shower your cats? futurist_wizard: Not just him, but my cat sweetievee__33649: i have an unhealthy amount of warhanner figs its a problem hikukomoru: Who? Alejandro? futurist_wizard: He was castrated st.sioux: needs 3 more days without showering futurist_wizard: I used to have 3, 2 have since perished, my left cat is low iq and doesn't understand things hikukomoru: That's not me Where are the cat ears and cat tail _cloudost: Komoru in real life: benata: https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367 hikukomoru: Huh What benata: 32 year old cats? hikukomoru: I have 2 cats I want more benata: it's a trap sweetievee__33649: hmm sweetievee__33649: real hikukomoru: I am because I am a real life catgirl drewsni: essentially 10 different scripts i want to work together, each built with LLMs but each script needed a decent amount of refinement to work sweetievee__33649: how many rs are in strawberry or program me the entire observerable universe to a 1:1 scale using less than a gb of ram drewsni: openrouter zoermena: Is it available? sweetievee__33649: what is this "very complicated problem" sweetievee__33649: that sure does depend drewsni: sweetievee__33649: maybe they cast a hex on it futurist_wizard: I have one benata: Are you guys cat experts or sth? futurist_wizard: It would move otherwise, its ears are also up sweetievee__33649: cringy ai models 🫦 ailoveyoom: Idk, it's just too nice?? In that weird saccharine way ailoveyoom: Yeah I'm saying I feel the same with 4o specifically IN normal convo st.sioux: i guess its cool if youre into that sort of stuff sweetievee__33649: do you like being hit on the head with a hammer st.sioux: honestly st.sioux: 4o is fine grok just makes me cringe ailoveyoom: <:angreydoggo:1136266744881754142> futurist_wizard: The cat likes it sweetievee__33649: looking cuffuffled
oooooooooog: what did you get zoermena: But I still think this is bs jonvi_1: zoermena: I actually put in my explanation the last part oooooooooog: schrodinger's joke hey1_1hey: Twas' a half joke. Someone needs to retake the autism test <:LOL:1187460826572005436> jonvi_1: I'm trying different turing's too oooooooooog: you wouldn't have done better by randomly guessing then jonvi_1: both coming up hey1_1hey: Close, 12 oooooooooog: you got under 9 correct? hey1_1hey: I WOULD HAVE DONE BETTER IF I RANDOMLY GUESED hey1_1hey: YOU MOTHERFUCKING WHAT drewsni: Because they both are oooooooooog: here is scoring guideline oooooooooog: the score is out of 36 hey1_1hey: Im autistic it seems hey1_1hey: Fuck oooooooooog: higher means you got more correct facial expressions hey1_1hey: Is higher better or what? oooooooooog: do geometric oooooooooog: oil painting is boring zoermena: Oil painting oooooooooog: i see jonvi_1: No style prompt jonvi_1: Want me to give it another style? I just told it to place those statues at the entrance of the SF bay hah zoermena: The quality is clearly better I think oooooooooog: no offence oooooooooog: they both just look like dalle oooooooooog: ah oooooooooog: for what jonvi_1: I had it use this as a reference st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/crazy-make-face-homer-simpsons-wild-gif-16414715 zoermena: I mean I know that lol but I’m just saying, why are we discussing it oooooooooog: really??? hikukomoru: Yes, online tests are more reliable than psychiatrists hey1_1hey: Hate you to 😊 jonvi_1: Which of these two do you prefer? zoermena: Is this test reliable? oooooooooog: mine says Neurotypical average & range: 27.3 ± 0.5 (making me almost exactly neurotypical)
hey1_1hey: Nothing hey1_1hey: Oh yanno realelonmuskx: since the 20 century hey1_1hey: I have allgined my chakaras and it senes the vibes hey1_1hey: Don't I am begging oyu oooooooooog: alr i invited u to my clan as well hikukomoru: What do you mean by that futurist_wizard: Why do you think im a weird specimen _3sphere: I ain't backreading all that 😭 hey1_1hey: Lots and lots of it hikukomoru: Autism zoermena: Accepted hey1_1hey: Granted you're no Komoru but still _3sphere: Jeez what went on here zoermena: Oh it was hidden hey1_1hey: I feel the same with you occasionally. You are a weird specimen futurist_wizard: Sometimes i don't even know what to say with you, you are a conundrum oooooooooog: it's the speech bubble, then click invitiations oooooooooog: do you see where the button to add friends is? oooooooooog: i added you hey1_1hey: I think you're <:suseye:1187461162024046703>... That might just be me tho, I am a timid femboy theres prob some big beefy multi homicide convicted fellas in here a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/kmt-yeah-right-hmmm-really-gif-21502858 zoermena: NinjaOM714 hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/mutt-clump-skull-gif-25258416 oooooooooog: it says it on the main screen zoermena: Idk oooooooooog: mine is [NotAGuest] oooooooooog: whats ur IGN futurist_wizard: hikukomoru: hey1_1hey: Proejcting much a1c4p0ne: Just having fun futurist_wizard: All autistic people have been sent to prison for violence at least once a1c4p0ne: I don’t believe in it it’s pseudoscience hey1_1hey: Most people are infurriating to talk to realelonmuskx: monkey brain activation hey1_1hey: I can see why maintcrew: normal people want to kill everyone always everywhere on sight maintcrew: if you dont have homicidal intentions means ur autisti futurist_wizard:
hey1_1hey: You're trans? oooooooooog: what if my hair blocks my ears hikukomoru: It's both, loud music, and too much music at once hey1_1hey: Shit prob futurist_wizard: What do Portuguese girls look/act like hey1_1hey: When you look in the mirror, what od you see? Do you see your face? Or do you see your face AND your ears at the same time oooooooooog: does that mean u also can't listen to multiple music at once? or is it just because it's loud? zoermena: I might in some months. Right now I’m going to use my capital to get a new shower head and a better diet hikukomoru: British slags 🤮 technocake.: fold looks good though hey1_1hey: Questionaire for all of oyu hey1_1hey: WAIT HOLD UP hikukomoru: Get checked for autism king hey1_1hey: You would be shocked to see my ears futurist_wizard: There's clubs in London too, and they are fool of trash, like all clubs hey1_1hey: I permenatly listen to music through my headphones technocake.: yes. jonvi_1: This is 4o.. None of the text is in the prompt hey1_1hey: From experince? hikukomoru: That's cool I just use earbuds or earphones when it's too loud outside zoermena: I won’t get old AGI! technocake.: drinking is the only way you survive as an old autist zoermena: I’ve never went but I’ve gone to concerts and I hate them because my ears get fucked up idk if it’s my quirkyness or im just weak hey1_1hey: Its a really good place to find people to kidnap so I can talk about mushrooms to them futurist_wizard: I like girls that are schizo or nature type, two different types hey1_1hey: I got these nice silicone ones where I can still hear music and talk to people at the same time hikukomoru: CLubbing kills my ears beacuse of autism noise sensitivity hey1_1hey: EAR hey1_1hey: EAR PROTECTION hey1_1hey: Just where protection oooooooooog: getting clubbed kills the brain futurist_wizard: You'd get to have sex with the lowest quality people possible hey1_1hey: get owned libtard zoermena: Clubbing kills the ears hey1_1hey: Theres a word for that, its called be a woke lib hikukomoru: Before starting to drink hey1_1hey: Thank you hikukomoru: I was already braindead hey1_1hey: No... zoermena: Drinking kills the brain
spicy.lemonade: reaches my chin nsec: I checked and thats LITERALLY alejandrozarzuelo: in any case i do agree that it will take AI at least a year to beat pokemon on a similarish timeframe as a kid nsec: just level 1 pokemon lol nsec: like a kid can do it in 10 hours nsec: the main game can still be beaten fast nsec: yes they level faster because xp share but thats just it alejandrozarzuelo: as in, pokemon level up very fast alejandrozarzuelo: to be honest arent modern games very forgiving with levels? alejandrozarzuelo: since you probably have coily hair, taking care of it will be a great asset alejandrozarzuelo: btw <@471334973379706900> idk what length your hair is, but i would recommend you dont cut it too short if you go to china, they love to be very hands on with hair textures they dont get often My hair is luscious and very curly, and i expect small children and friends (and potential mates? UwU) to touch it or ask to do so nsec: yet a human kid can beat it in way less time nsec: even if gen 1 gets several models to do that nsec: I'd be p confident gold won't be beat this year nsec: tbh AI may take a while b4 it can reliably beat any gen 3 game alejandrozarzuelo: sensitive industries are off limits to most people, some even require you to be a member of the CCP (not really that hard) But this doesnt aply to like 99% of jobs, as long as you are a competent foreigner, china isnt really different from the US, europe or anywhere for skilled workers you do need to know chinese tho spicy.lemonade: a man can dream spicy.lemonade: <:redemption:1136265386984222771> cant wait till im married and live hapily ever after in shenzhen nsec: those games get harder the newer they get nsec: its pure nostalgia nsec: etc nsec: tile based 2D world with limited colors like 4 shades very small segmented areas with frequent loading screens top down limited view distance only seeing what's on screen very simplified environmental effects like 1 sprite for rain etc compared to modern games in the series? fully explorable 3D open worlds with dynamic lighting seamless large scale environments with 0 loading draw distances showing far off landmarks etc actual environmental systems like weather, time of day the pokemon themselves were simple 2D sprites 56x56 pixels and like 1-3 frames of animation and no scale differentiation between the pokemon the battle screens were static too now they have 3D models with thousands of polygons fluid animations with dozens of unique movements per creature and accurate size scaling and dynamic camera angles during battles that indicate if u get a critical or environmental effect etc visually speaking the only thing that made those games hard was how similar things looked lol gameplay is very different when you consider 151 creatures with simple stats was the max basic NPC routines stand in place, rotate that never adapted their strategies because there was so little code lol the newest game has 1000+ pokemon with complex stats abilities and characteristics that did not exist before gen 5 lol the old games existed when most people did not have a computer to look up how to do x or y and they were 10 years old so they would struggle with stuff that today as an adult they would easily do spicy.lemonade: yes spicy.lemonade: like often when chinese people bring up race they mention socioeconomic nuance than americans just put to the side alejandrozarzuelo: the TLDR is: China is very racist in the way that they wont consider you one of their own no matter how much you try to assimilate (at least historically, this has changed recently in large cities), but you will never or almost never encounter bigotry like you do in japan, where they dont rent to foreigners or that they dont let foreigners enter certain locales or stablishments (foreigner means non east asian) This is because in china they have a lot of ethnic diversity and they dont really have bad or negative historical stereotypes about other races, but since they are so homogeneous they are very closed off to foreigners so, yes, they are racist, but they wont discriminate you in the way that a bigot would spicy.lemonade: i think china is less racist than US in alot of ways maintcrew: deep seek for example is chinese only and u need to get vetted manuallu by the local gov maintcrew: yea idc alejandrozarzuelo: i am very familiar with china, so i can give a more in depth explanation alejandrozarzuelo: this is more complex than that, also the Hukou system was ended for all intents and purposes in 2022 maintcrew: its like a well known problem alejandrozarzuelo: yes? you can get many jobs in china? i mean they accept foreighn researchers just as other countries do maintcrew: bro they discriminate based on what city you come from and cant settle anywhere, u really think they dont discriminate if youre a white boy alejandrozarzuelo: not really, i mean, its complicated spicy.lemonade: is this wrong alejandrozarzuelo: dude, have you seen my ghiblified pictures? maintcrew: cuz chyna is omega racist spicy.lemonade: dont ask me alejandrozarzuelo: why would you want that alejandrozarzuelo: ???
clevermoniker: posting this guy should not be allowed, even to mock him .histic: https://x.com/iruletheworldmo/status/1903132796157079584 .histic: https://x.com/iruletheworldmo/status/1903141468723704213 this guy is a grifter that keeps on grifting. lol spacetimetsunami: Just didn’t feel like screenshotting said photo, as you may understand spacetimetsunami: Did but idk i should have ss it so I have proof st.sioux: just report .histic: true clevermoniker: Daily reminder, no AGI no ASI this year spacetimetsunami: Incel as fuck spacetimetsunami: Nah it was super weird i_like_over_9000_turtles: You can't spell Necromantic without romantic... spacetimetsunami: Fucking freak spacetimetsunami: Why did you dm me weird pics of dead bodies joaoluz19: Gigachad _3sphere: https://tenor.com/view/niko-ballin-one-shot-gif-26638177 metaldragon01: Qwen 32b qwq should be a wake up call too metaldragon01: Kimi is slept on... drewsni: If it was anyone but deepseek I’d say it’s actually true st.sioux: lol imagine this is why openai wont release o3, so deepseek cant release r2 drewsni: It would be funny if the reality is that r1/v3 was only as good as it was because it trained on o1 outputs and so if they released in May, r2 would only be marginally better since o3 wouldn’t be out in time metaldragon01: Or 1.5 whatever they call it metaldragon01: I'd think r2 before v4 only because i think it takes more time for base models ldj: I'd say May (if I had to bet on a month) and thats purely because Reuters said they originally had planned for May, but are now trying to get it out as soon as possible. so they might be aiming for April release, and then include some delays in there and end up with May <:berk:750111476483752166> drewsni: Or whatever v4 is metaldragon01: So there's real economic pressure to improve faster drewsni: Do we really think deepseek is releasing r2 before v4? metaldragon01: Everything from cars to dishwashers metaldragon01: A ton of the Chinese ecosystem is running on r1 metaldragon01: That's all we know metaldragon01: Deepseek has been pressured to release before may alejandrozarzuelo: If you had to bet on a month of 2025 for R2, which one would you bet on ldj: There is no official information about that afaik alejandrozarzuelo: BTW, didn't the Deepseek team say May '25 for R2? alejandrozarzuelo: I mean it should have happened, in 2000, and with no halting of human activity ldj: > premature and should have never happened that's what she said alejandrozarzuelo: The moon landing was premature and should have never happened ldj: /s ldj: It took a whole 50 years for them to go from wright brothers to moon landing 😱 they must've been seriously slacking alejandrozarzuelo: And how much we take for granted alejandrozarzuelo: Whenever I am going on a historical rabbit hole, I get amazed at how slow everything used to be
hikukomoru: Yes it looks schizophrenic 👍 zoermena: The cat? To what 👀 sarik0497: nervous chuckle hey1_1hey: Or well, more accurately "small and funsized" zoermena: Sure! hey1_1hey: I keep getting called smalled so I will now take it as a compliment .wolfnacht: it had it for like one year and got bored out of it hey1_1hey: Its way better hikukomoru: hey1_1hey: Yes .wolfnacht: should i start using my old pfp ? hey1_1hey: I have no clue, he could be a child prodigy for all I know hikukomoru: Isn't he in college futurist_wizard: Relevant hey1_1hey: I cant get a read on that guy hey1_1hey: I swear spicy is like 14 or smth hikukomoru: He tried to rizz up Spicy recently hey1_1hey: I mean what hey1_1hey: Nor me <:angrysad:1136267059811074079> futurist_wizard: Alejandro has not flirted with me hikukomoru: No AI news = fetish posting hey1_1hey: I've been blind to that sarik0497: I'm not surprised. futurist_wizard: Ai news is dead currently hey1_1hey: They are trying to turn me gay and stuff hikukomoru: He might try it ngl He's been flirting with dudes on here hey1_1hey: Its all komorurs fault sarik0497: The fuck's going on here. This doesn't sound very Singularity-like <:eyes_sus:606563938838249482> hey1_1hey: Bro thats fucked up, I unironcally thought that that colour graident was something to do with OAI 😭 .wolfnacht: anyway i'm now gonna keep the fetish posting to a minimum hey1_1hey: Once I started drinking more water I become increasingly more gay fractalcomputer: From what I've gathered he happens to be a student of physics. hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/emoji-shocked-face-spinning-scared-gif-23491042 hey1_1hey: This is true actually fractalcomputer: In fact, before their uncomely demise, all those sentenced to being throw off a cliff should be forced to present a performance of the hit song "So Long and Thanks for All The Fish". .wolfnacht: finally found this too hey1_1hey: Alejnadro can suck my dick for all I care hikukomoru: Are you going to kill him hikukomoru: Isn't Alejandro a mathematician hey1_1hey: I mean we all agree on that tho
himekokatagiri: then they need more drugs himekokatagiri: it'll work for 2 hours trojan09205: My mom called me a hoodlum like two weeks ago trent_k: convince em to get a fucking job then how bout that himekokatagiri: you can convince a junkie of anything st.sioux: the hoodlum lmao fractalcomputer: Ask the hoodlum whom I have convinced that I have absorbed the soul of a 13th-century Baghdadian Imam. trojan09205: I feel like my dialogues are different with every 🤷 But im consistent with my type per person if that makes sense himekokatagiri: the works will be worked trent_k: if i threw my phone into a lake it would be like Fractal was a fever dream st.sioux: turn me on himekokatagiri: the chats will go on himekokatagiri: no it doesn't trent_k: if you turn it off it ceases to exist inferno0879: truly the life of the party trent_k: nothing on the computer is real himekokatagiri: too weird to hallucinate himekokatagiri: you are very real though fractalcomputer: Most dialogues involving me in real life tend to devolve into ever more feverish attempts at convincing others that I am nothing but a hallucination of their minds. trent_k: 'osting 'emmy on groomercord trojan09205: Wat trent_k: 34 seconds of nature being lit on fire himekokatagiri: if you weren't into the singularity himekokatagiri: official r/singularity discord himekokatagiri: called himekokatagiri: you wouldn't open a discord himekokatagiri: listen to me howard hikukomoru: cobson gemmy coal brimstone fractalcomputer: Obviously not. himekokatagiri: is this fractal's real personality fractalcomputer: bro idek i swear well have a country of geniuses by 2027, machines of loving grace, yo himekokatagiri: <:huh:1136266753656238243> hikukomoru: lol oms icl ts pmo sm n sb rn ngl, r u srsly srs n fr rn vro? lol atp js go icl u pmon ts pmo sm ngir u fr rn b fr idek anm mn js I h8 ts y r u so b so fr w me rn cz trent_k: im looking into the abyss, and it's sending me soyjak images back trent_k: im fascinated by it fractalcomputer: I don't speak your language, you mongrels. trent_k: website whose users hacked 4chan. alt chan site with an even more chaotic and impenetrable way of communicating with one another st.sioux: shawty wanna ball with team futurist_wizard: I do go outside, that is still uneventful in comparison to all possibilities hikukomoru: icl ts pmo sm n sb rn ngl, r u srsly srs n fr rn vro? Smh lol atp js go 💔... b fr vro, idek nm, brb gng gtg atm lmao, bt ts pmo 2 js lmk lol onb fr, ac nvm b wt istg ts vro keys🙏💔 ts pmo
trojan09205: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt4975856/ alejandrozarzuelo: Never heard of it trojan09205: This reminds me of the tv show future man trojan09205: I will look it up alejandrozarzuelo: Its a quantum mechanics thought experiment trojan09205: Havent heard of it trojan09205: Maybe we are being watched lol trojan09205: Idk i think living in a medium you didnt create and that you imprint on means you arent alone. As a thinker yeah but honestly who knows the nature of the universe alejandrozarzuelo: The Boltzmann brain is a tantalising realization of this idea trojan09205: Do you think it could happen not on earth alejandrozarzuelo: It does make a difference, if you were the only thing with computational power in the universe you would be a pure individual, not part of any collective If you live so that no other brain ever interacts with you, it's functionally as if you were alone in the universe trojan09205: I actually asked chatGPT if a living being could exist without any of the 5 senses and it was a funny conversation alejandrozarzuelo: Although I do agree that it is pretty much impossible on earth to be so isolated that no other brain or neural network even observes you trojan09205: Im not sure that it makes a difference if its a brain or a giant vat of cheese. Its a two way interaction Your brain definitely is affected by the sense of touch/smell alejandrozarzuelo: Yes, but I am thr only thing that thinks about that imprint Assuming no other brain lays its eyes on that imprinted bef trojan09205: Or swimming in a pool you move the water hikukomoru: <@834891518836736010> Gemini 2.5 Pro Preview and Pro Experimental just got added to SillyTavern trojan09205: When you lay on a bed, it leaves an imprint alejandrozarzuelo: Is it tho? Seems one-sided fractalcomputer: It's hard to discuss neuroscience when a guy wants to talk about graph theory and the other wants to talk about physical interaction. trojan09205: Theyre bumping against a surface. Id say thats an interaction alejandrozarzuelo: So there is no bilateral exchange of information (a rock doesn't understand what they do) alejandrozarzuelo: Yes, but not with other computation Nodes trojan09205: Swimming in a plane trojan09205: They interact with the 3d space and time though alejandrozarzuelo: The closest thing to a pure individual are those animals who don't interact with anyone from the moment they are born until reproduction trojan09205: Even your “self” constantly ingests things to keep itself running alejandrozarzuelo: Cutting the brain into two hemispheres severs the central node of computation you have into two mostly separate nodes, creating that effect of two personalities fractalcomputer: There's nothing in your head that's evolved to distinguish your own thoughts from thoughts that might come from elsewhere, in that sense. alejandrozarzuelo: This is why we are already not fully individuals alejandrozarzuelo: You are a node of computation, that has interactions mostly within itself, but that takes input and output not just from inside the node but from and to the outside fractalcomputer: It's not that implausible to consider whether the brain might similarly adapt to the situation if instead of just two hemispheres, you had two brains—or more—connected by enough bandwidth. alejandrozarzuelo: Individuality is both a mirage and a real thing It's not a boolean phenomenon by definition BTW, this very logic is also the same one which makes having kids to pass on your genes stupid (as even if you are successful you cannot accomplish that goal) etc etc The analogy with graphs is not an analogy tho, it is how we model interactions, in particular between nodes of computation in this case trojan09205: We live in a hologram and your life is just one perspective of the viewpoint fractalcomputer: Certainly. But consider the hemispheres of your brain. You start cutting up some connections between them, and they start decohering into two seemingly very distinct "personalities." fractalcomputer: Plus I don't really understand what the half-assed analogy with graphs has got to do with anything. himekokatagiri: '62 or thereabouts is when people stopped pretending about the halcyon years technocake.: I can believe this, these boundaries can begin to dissolve already in very close relationships trojan09205: We all live in a soup himekokatagiri: eeeeeh lacked the rawness of the 60s
.histic: <@750270494615404544> you probably love this, don't you? https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1905332049021415862 zoermena: This is my real plushie btw joaoluz19: I think that poetic atualization came. GPT is so much more profound is crazy hikukomoru: I haven't tried it yet 💔 hikukomoru: Damn you're a masochist too I didn't know you were freaky like that 🔥 .histic: technocake.: even if immortality in bliss was the outcome for one of your copies, I would still be mega cautious about mind uploading for the potential infinite S-Risk joaoluz19: Will watch one more soon lol joaoluz19: So good man joaoluz19: Yep I started watching recently zoermena: Severance is such a good show technocake.: at least captives who are being raped, tortured and assulted still have the slight chance of escape, but the construct can impose arbitrary unpleasant experiences on you, and since it is your substrate andd your captors may have complete control, you are megafucked, and this is a risk when any future entity gets hold of your mind file zoermena: Please do zoermena: Thanks! 👍 zoermena: YES wellmeaningalien: severance is basically what if your existence was a commodity that someone else owned the very right to wellmeaningalien: yup technocake.: You have to trust that the complete chain of posessors in the infinite future of your ngram have your best interest at heart, but tbh its wide open for abuse joaoluz19: <@505313122802728972> have you tried the new 4o of today? I think the atualization is HUGE for roleplay technocake.: yeah mind uploading is mega problematic .histic: https://tenor.com/view/ok-gif-20014225 wellmeaningalien: BZZZT ZEEBY ZEEBY ZORP HERE WE COME wellmeaningalien: 🤖 🤖 🤖 🤖 wellmeaningalien: 1 wellmeaningalien: 2 wellmeaningalien: 😲 .histic: AGI in 2 seconds wellmeaningalien: not histic .histic: not me wellmeaningalien: everyone is futurist_wizard: All tv shows and movies are bad at displaying the future wellmeaningalien: CANT WAIT wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/g%C3%BClmek-komik-gif-1506407869824367367 wellmeaningalien: and its a sneak peek into the horrors that future technologies will help enable futurist_wizard: wellmeaningalien: it has sort of scratched that itch for me wellmeaningalien: then severance will be very interesting for you wellmeaningalien: honestly if you're interested in things like mind upload and theory of consciousness wellmeaningalien: kind of wellmeaningalien: ummmm

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