democracy in which the political parties of our Congress do notfight among themselves (as the American political parties do) and approveeverything our government sends to Congress, without fighting.Euphrasia: Why do you think that the Americansspied only on Petrobras? Is it because it is the only company that is substantiallyworth anything in Brazil (although it is in bad financial situation at themoment)?Interviewee: Not at all. Our corporations arevery strong. The only reason why they are in bad shape right now is that the gringos manipulate the dollar exchange rate in order to export moreto us and import less and at ridiculously low prices.Euphrasia: What do you think about EikeBatista`s OGX petroleum company? Some say that former president Lula,current President Dilma Roussef, and the Brazilian National Bank for Economicand Social Development (BNDES) wanted, at any cost, to have the name of aBrazilian appear at the top of the FORBES magazine list as the secondwealthiest man on earth. Batista`s name did appear in FORBES but disappearedafter a few months. He Later fell into a hole, leaving behind a debtof 45 million dollars in interest alone and the debt on the principal totaling3 to 5 billion dollars or more (depending on the reference source). Do youthink Batista will manage to recover? Interviewee: Wedo not have the slightest doubt about that. People say that his companies werejust a facade and did not produce any petroleum at all. There were infact some unpredictable events, some hardships, or accidents but only oneof his petroleum wells, the Tubarao Martelo, is predicted to produce billionsof barrels (however, nobody knows when) . I can assure you that theBrazilian people will not have to pay this bill. This is all a conspiracy bythe envious American imperialists who do not want us to become independent in petroleumproduction so that to run our industries, we will be forced to buy the naturalgas which they are extracting from shale.Euphrasia: Is ittrue that Jose Dirceu is a corrupt guy and was the suspected leader of themensalao gang? (mensalao is the name given to the trial of 39 corrupt highlevel politicians who are being tried by the Brazilian Supreme Court, the STF).Interviewee: This is press talk and theposition of conservative and reactionary STF justices. There was no conspiracy orcrime in the so called mensalao. Minister Lewandoswsky and his followersare right. That money was used by the political parties, as stated by formerPresident Lula, as caixa dois (money not accounted for), which has atradition in Brazil since the times of Cabral (The discoverer of Brazil).Jose Dirceu was only the principal leader of the scheme, followed by othercompanions like Marcos Valerio, Delubio Soares, Genoino and others, who tookcare of the money in order to ensure the governability of the country. Whoeverthinks, however, that Jose Dirceu is politically dead is wrong. Just wait andsee.Euphrasia: What about Marco Aurelio Garcia,special advisor to President Dilma for external affairs? Is he worse than JoseDirceu, as the American ambassador says? Who is the boss, he or theMinister of Foreign Affairs?Interviewee: The two work together, onehelping the other. The rest is gossip by an envious opposition.Euphrasia: