also had cookie factories in Second Life, and a Ben & Jerry's ice cream factory, for business students23:46TartafeuOpenSim as fewer "capitalist" than SL or is a wrong impression mine?23:46Mariaand the Fashion Institute is running a big training session for fasion students in second life23:47TartafeuYou know a lot about that23:47Mariatart: SecondLife is proprietary code. OpenSim is open source23:47Mariabut the Apache web server is open source -- and many people use it to build e-commerce websites23:47Mariathe same way, you can use OpenSim to create virtual stores23:47Mariaor virtual factories, or anything else23:47Tartafeuyes!23:48Mariasoyou can use Microsoft Server's paid software to build your e-commercesite, or the Apache open source server software to build youre-commerce site23:48Mariathe end result looks the same23:48Mariaor you can use both to create a non-profit site23:48Mariathere are many non-profits in second life23:48TartafeuI think at first step I will need to learn how to program 23:49Mariayou don't need ANY programming skills to do this23:49Tartafeuin virtual worlds23:49Mariayou can set up a store in a few days with point-and-clicks23:49Tartafeudoesnt?23:49Mariano programming at all23:49TartafeuBut to create scripts23:49Mariaif you take v$ all the payments are handled for you23:49Mariawell, what do you want to sell in the store?23:49TartafeuI would like, for example23:50Tartafeuto create a manufacturing line where the students could23:50Tartafeuinteract 23:50Mariainteract ow?23:50TartafeuNow a days. When I am explaining about23:50Mariapicking things up and putting things down?23:50TartafeuTaylor 23:50Tartafeui.e.23:50TartafeuThey can only imagining and see pictures or movies23:50Mariaif teh students make objects and pass them down the line, they can do taht now with no programming at all23:51TartafeuI will explain better23:51Mariafor example, one student can make a box23:51TartafeuOr try :)23:51Mariathe second student can shape it into the right shape23:51Mariathe enxt student can put a picture on the outside to make it look right23:51Mariathe next student can attach a handle23:51Mariathe last student can put it in a box23:51Mariaall these steps have no programming in them23:51TartafeuBut if I intent to create this environment wouldnt I now to program the objects?23:52*** RetroDanMoron_ quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))23:52Mariait's built into SecondLife and OpenSim23:52TartafeuHow can I do that?23:52Mariano, the studets would actually be building real objects as they go along23:52Mariano programming needed23:52Mariawhere are you now? i'll show you23:52TartafeuMaria, how could I now more about it?23:52Mariawherea re you? reaction grid or osgrid?23:53Tartafeujust a moment23:53Tartafeu:)23:53Tartafeuwright plaza23:53Tartafeu126.128.2223:53--- WhiteStar is back23:53WhiteStarTartafeu:;; Here is our Scripting Forum23:54WhiteStarhttp://osgrid.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=523:54TartafeuThank you23:54Mariatart: hmm... where's the closest workign sandbox?23:54Tartafeua lot! :)23:54Mariaprobably sandbox plaza, right?23:54WhiteStarHHere is teh LSL Wiki dor teh Scripting Languiage commonly used in SL and OpenSim23:54WhiteStarhttp://lslwiki.net/lslwiki/wakka.php?wakka=HomePage23:54TartafeuExcuse me but you are an angel on my way :)23:55TartafeuI was totaly loose23:55Mariatart: go to map (bottom right) then type "Sandbox" into the search box23:55Mariai'll join you there23:55Tartafeuok23:55Mariadouble-click on sandbox plaza or select it and hit "teleport"23:55WhiteStarHere is a List (almost up to date) of teh Scripting Functions that do work in OpenSim23:55WhiteStarhttp://opensimulator.org/wiki/LSL_Status23:55Mariaalso, you need some male shapes and clothes, right?23:56Mariai've got some i can give you23:56TartafeuCan I import Second life's avatar appearence? I would like to change the shape of my avatar...23:56Mariaok, i'm here23:56Mariatart: there is supposedly a way but i haven't found it yet...23:56Tartafeuok23:56Mariaare you here yet?23:57TartafeuProblems to teleport to sandbox... :(23:57TartafeuI will try again23:57WhiteStarHEreis teh Mermaid