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"body": "Honestly? I think Dutch would have accused her of infidelity to rid himself of the burden. He doesn\u2019t love Molly, he loves being an outlaw. He only acts as a symbolic father to Arthur and John because it benefits him, not because he\u2019s a fatherly human. Maybe it would spark a high honor/low honor opportunity for Arthur where he can offer her money to find a safe place to live, or abandon her with Dutch.",
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"body": "Interesting idea and feasible.\n\nIt would create a huge deal. I think most of the other women don't like her.\n\nWorth noting Molly is kinda an afterthought as a character if you don't pay attention. She's *there* but fades away.\n\nAlthough it shows how Dutch treats those around him who are no longer agreeable or useful.\nEspecially if they question him.",
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"body": "Once you playthrough the game once you realize that Dutch used everyone to his benefit and the ones who started to see through his bullshit he abandon you see that with John several times. My point is anyone that Dutch sees as a liability he will try to get rid of. If molly was pregnant Dutch would try and get rid of her. Through out the game you start to see how Dutch only cares for Dutch.",
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"body": "Interesting. But I think if she was, she would say it to Dutch before her desperate suicidal \"I talked to Pinkertons\" scene\n\nHypothetically, if she was, I'm not sure. Dutch could have distance himself even further, because he didn't want to bound himself to Molly and didn't love her. This would probably result in the same outcome, but Dutch, knowing Molly was pregnant with his child, would go nuts earlier, ridden with guild, might hate Grimshaw and blame people around him for what happened. \n\nI just doubt in a positive outcome, because Dutch loves his position, he loves this lifestyle. If more time was given, he might have come with something better, but the thing is, Molly wouldn't give him the time and we're back at the original scene.",
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