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51b2h5

legaladvice_train

Apartment Complex charging me for cleaning my apt and moving out furniture. I gave my 60-day notice only 11 days ago! I live in Texas. I recently got married and moved in with my wife. I procrastinated on moving out of my old apartment. I moved out 75% of my stuff in early August. I basically just had to clean (a lot) and left a table, TV stand, entertainment center/bookshelf and just a bunch of random stuff. I finally got it worked out with management and turned in my 60-day notice on August, 25th. I then sent an email asking if there was a way to adjust the 60-day notice so I didn't have to pay an extra month's month rent. They very clearly declined to say my 60-day notice would start that day (august 25th). A 60-day notice was policy when canceling a lease early. My plan was then to eventually, within the 60 days, finish cleaning/moving out and turn in my keys. Today, September 5th, I get an email titled "final account statement". They billed me ~2,800 dollars. Charged me for things like "4 keys not returned and lock change" for 150. "trash out bags(16) and furniture out (5 pieces)" for 650. And a notice fee of 850. I don't even know what that is. Lots of other random charges adding up. So they threw away all my stuff and charged me a lot for doing it? Didn't I have 60 days? I can't contact them today because it's Labor Day but I plan on calling them tomorrow. I've never been involved in anything legal at all, but it seems to me that I have some grounds here? What should I do?

d7b04og

d7al2xv

Op. Pay your September rent right now so they have absolutely nothing to stand on. I don't care if it means driving 2 hours tonight. Get a check to them ASAP.

When was the end of your lease term? were you a month to month tenant? That's the important question here, because if the end of your lease term was at the end of the 60 days after August 25th then you were illegally evicted. If your lease ended Sept. 1st, for example, then they did nothing wrong.

51b2h5

legaladvice_train

Apartment Complex charging me for cleaning my apt and moving out furniture. I gave my 60-day notice only 11 days ago! I live in Texas. I recently got married and moved in with my wife. I procrastinated on moving out of my old apartment. I moved out 75% of my stuff in early August. I basically just had to clean (a lot) and left a table, TV stand, entertainment center/bookshelf and just a bunch of random stuff. I finally got it worked out with management and turned in my 60-day notice on August, 25th. I then sent an email asking if there was a way to adjust the 60-day notice so I didn't have to pay an extra month's month rent. They very clearly declined to say my 60-day notice would start that day (august 25th). A 60-day notice was policy when canceling a lease early. My plan was then to eventually, within the 60 days, finish cleaning/moving out and turn in my keys. Today, September 5th, I get an email titled "final account statement". They billed me ~2,800 dollars. Charged me for things like "4 keys not returned and lock change" for 150. "trash out bags(16) and furniture out (5 pieces)" for 650. And a notice fee of 850. I don't even know what that is. Lots of other random charges adding up. So they threw away all my stuff and charged me a lot for doing it? Didn't I have 60 days? I can't contact them today because it's Labor Day but I plan on calling them tomorrow. I've never been involved in anything legal at all, but it seems to me that I have some grounds here? What should I do?

d7b01lt

d7b04og

Well the good news is that you might be able to break the lease early for the Landlord not performing their obligations and illegally evicting you, and also the good news is that you got out of cleaning. I can't wait to hear the followup to this one. I hope that you get well compensated.

Op. Pay your September rent right now so they have absolutely nothing to stand on. I don't care if it means driving 2 hours tonight. Get a check to them ASAP.

oq1nht

legaladvice_train

USPS delivering my packages to a pay-to-access parcel locker at my apartment complex rather than use my mailbox or deliver to my door I’m assuming this has to be illegal. I’m interested if anyone has a citation for me especially, but I’d be happy for confirmation about whether this is legal or not. My apartment complex had a parcel locker installed a few months ago, where packages can be delivered and you get them at your convenience, and the packages are safe from porch pirates in the meantime. I tried to sign up, but it isn’t a free service, so I opted out. Since then, all my packages were delivered to my door or mailbox, but last week the postal service delivered two of my packages to the parcel locker. The apartment complex won’t help and told me to just sign up for an account to get my packages, and do it quick because the longer they sit in the locker, the more the parcel locker will charge me. I’ve asked Usps to look into it, but after 3 business days I’ve gotten no response. I can’t access several of my packages delivered by USPS now, and two more packages are being delivered by them this week. If it is illegal, is my apartment complex, the parcel locker, or USPS the one violating the law? If it matters, the state is North Carolina. Any help is much appreciated.

h68vkem

h68rojo

I'd tell the company they are in possession of your property and you want to give them a chance to return it before you involve the police and the shipping company. If they refuse, just tell USPS that you didn't receive the package and you want to start a claim. Suggest that the company is holding your packages hostage and you have no contract with them. They might send a legal letter encouraging them to provide your property.

Just looking at the USPS manual, it looks like the building management is responsible for providing a delivery point for the USPS, which they have done with the parcel locker. This means that you have a beef with the landlord, not the USPS. Since they are charging for the locker, it is essentially a rent increase.

oq1nht

legaladvice_train

USPS delivering my packages to a pay-to-access parcel locker at my apartment complex rather than use my mailbox or deliver to my door I’m assuming this has to be illegal. I’m interested if anyone has a citation for me especially, but I’d be happy for confirmation about whether this is legal or not. My apartment complex had a parcel locker installed a few months ago, where packages can be delivered and you get them at your convenience, and the packages are safe from porch pirates in the meantime. I tried to sign up, but it isn’t a free service, so I opted out. Since then, all my packages were delivered to my door or mailbox, but last week the postal service delivered two of my packages to the parcel locker. The apartment complex won’t help and told me to just sign up for an account to get my packages, and do it quick because the longer they sit in the locker, the more the parcel locker will charge me. I’ve asked Usps to look into it, but after 3 business days I’ve gotten no response. I can’t access several of my packages delivered by USPS now, and two more packages are being delivered by them this week. If it is illegal, is my apartment complex, the parcel locker, or USPS the one violating the law? If it matters, the state is North Carolina. Any help is much appreciated.

h69mey4

h69kl9s

Contact the postal inspectors office. There are many federal laws surrounding your right to unhindered delivery of mail. Meaning they can be fined or imprisoned for keeping your package. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1708 Also please be kind to your postal employees. Many of them are working 6 or 7 days a week and rarely get out after 8 hours in a day. Its a very stressful job no matter where you are in usps.

You may also be able to file a complaint with a tenancy office in your state. This seems like an arbitrary addition to rent and they may order your rent be decreased the amount charged by the service.

oq1nht

legaladvice_train

USPS delivering my packages to a pay-to-access parcel locker at my apartment complex rather than use my mailbox or deliver to my door I’m assuming this has to be illegal. I’m interested if anyone has a citation for me especially, but I’d be happy for confirmation about whether this is legal or not. My apartment complex had a parcel locker installed a few months ago, where packages can be delivered and you get them at your convenience, and the packages are safe from porch pirates in the meantime. I tried to sign up, but it isn’t a free service, so I opted out. Since then, all my packages were delivered to my door or mailbox, but last week the postal service delivered two of my packages to the parcel locker. The apartment complex won’t help and told me to just sign up for an account to get my packages, and do it quick because the longer they sit in the locker, the more the parcel locker will charge me. I’ve asked Usps to look into it, but after 3 business days I’ve gotten no response. I can’t access several of my packages delivered by USPS now, and two more packages are being delivered by them this week. If it is illegal, is my apartment complex, the parcel locker, or USPS the one violating the law? If it matters, the state is North Carolina. Any help is much appreciated.

h69imal

h69mey4

uspis.gov This might be below their paygrade, but they will get back to you. And if they are able to help, I almost feel sorry for your landlord. These guys are serious.

Contact the postal inspectors office. There are many federal laws surrounding your right to unhindered delivery of mail. Meaning they can be fined or imprisoned for keeping your package. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1708 Also please be kind to your postal employees. Many of them are working 6 or 7 days a week and rarely get out after 8 hours in a day. Its a very stressful job no matter where you are in usps.

oq1nht

legaladvice_train

USPS delivering my packages to a pay-to-access parcel locker at my apartment complex rather than use my mailbox or deliver to my door I’m assuming this has to be illegal. I’m interested if anyone has a citation for me especially, but I’d be happy for confirmation about whether this is legal or not. My apartment complex had a parcel locker installed a few months ago, where packages can be delivered and you get them at your convenience, and the packages are safe from porch pirates in the meantime. I tried to sign up, but it isn’t a free service, so I opted out. Since then, all my packages were delivered to my door or mailbox, but last week the postal service delivered two of my packages to the parcel locker. The apartment complex won’t help and told me to just sign up for an account to get my packages, and do it quick because the longer they sit in the locker, the more the parcel locker will charge me. I’ve asked Usps to look into it, but after 3 business days I’ve gotten no response. I can’t access several of my packages delivered by USPS now, and two more packages are being delivered by them this week. If it is illegal, is my apartment complex, the parcel locker, or USPS the one violating the law? If it matters, the state is North Carolina. Any help is much appreciated.

h692uq5

h69mey4

It's weird that they delivered to the locker even though you never opted in. You should have a case against the apartment office if they give you any BS. But at the same time, a parcel locker is like $20 one time payment with fees for leaving packages in them longer than 3 days. I would say that the effort fighting this is not worth $20, and my apartment package locker gives me peace of mind that I won't have packages stolen.

Contact the postal inspectors office. There are many federal laws surrounding your right to unhindered delivery of mail. Meaning they can be fined or imprisoned for keeping your package. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1708 Also please be kind to your postal employees. Many of them are working 6 or 7 days a week and rarely get out after 8 hours in a day. Its a very stressful job no matter where you are in usps.

oq1nht

legaladvice_train

USPS delivering my packages to a pay-to-access parcel locker at my apartment complex rather than use my mailbox or deliver to my door I’m assuming this has to be illegal. I’m interested if anyone has a citation for me especially, but I’d be happy for confirmation about whether this is legal or not. My apartment complex had a parcel locker installed a few months ago, where packages can be delivered and you get them at your convenience, and the packages are safe from porch pirates in the meantime. I tried to sign up, but it isn’t a free service, so I opted out. Since then, all my packages were delivered to my door or mailbox, but last week the postal service delivered two of my packages to the parcel locker. The apartment complex won’t help and told me to just sign up for an account to get my packages, and do it quick because the longer they sit in the locker, the more the parcel locker will charge me. I’ve asked Usps to look into it, but after 3 business days I’ve gotten no response. I can’t access several of my packages delivered by USPS now, and two more packages are being delivered by them this week. If it is illegal, is my apartment complex, the parcel locker, or USPS the one violating the law? If it matters, the state is North Carolina. Any help is much appreciated.

h69jbtx

h69mey4

Report it to the postmaster general as possible mail theft/shady shit.

Contact the postal inspectors office. There are many federal laws surrounding your right to unhindered delivery of mail. Meaning they can be fined or imprisoned for keeping your package. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1708 Also please be kind to your postal employees. Many of them are working 6 or 7 days a week and rarely get out after 8 hours in a day. Its a very stressful job no matter where you are in usps.

oq1nht

legaladvice_train

USPS delivering my packages to a pay-to-access parcel locker at my apartment complex rather than use my mailbox or deliver to my door I’m assuming this has to be illegal. I’m interested if anyone has a citation for me especially, but I’d be happy for confirmation about whether this is legal or not. My apartment complex had a parcel locker installed a few months ago, where packages can be delivered and you get them at your convenience, and the packages are safe from porch pirates in the meantime. I tried to sign up, but it isn’t a free service, so I opted out. Since then, all my packages were delivered to my door or mailbox, but last week the postal service delivered two of my packages to the parcel locker. The apartment complex won’t help and told me to just sign up for an account to get my packages, and do it quick because the longer they sit in the locker, the more the parcel locker will charge me. I’ve asked Usps to look into it, but after 3 business days I’ve gotten no response. I can’t access several of my packages delivered by USPS now, and two more packages are being delivered by them this week. If it is illegal, is my apartment complex, the parcel locker, or USPS the one violating the law? If it matters, the state is North Carolina. Any help is much appreciated.

h69kl9s

h69imal

You may also be able to file a complaint with a tenancy office in your state. This seems like an arbitrary addition to rent and they may order your rent be decreased the amount charged by the service.

uspis.gov This might be below their paygrade, but they will get back to you. And if they are able to help, I almost feel sorry for your landlord. These guys are serious.

oq1nht

legaladvice_train

USPS delivering my packages to a pay-to-access parcel locker at my apartment complex rather than use my mailbox or deliver to my door I’m assuming this has to be illegal. I’m interested if anyone has a citation for me especially, but I’d be happy for confirmation about whether this is legal or not. My apartment complex had a parcel locker installed a few months ago, where packages can be delivered and you get them at your convenience, and the packages are safe from porch pirates in the meantime. I tried to sign up, but it isn’t a free service, so I opted out. Since then, all my packages were delivered to my door or mailbox, but last week the postal service delivered two of my packages to the parcel locker. The apartment complex won’t help and told me to just sign up for an account to get my packages, and do it quick because the longer they sit in the locker, the more the parcel locker will charge me. I’ve asked Usps to look into it, but after 3 business days I’ve gotten no response. I can’t access several of my packages delivered by USPS now, and two more packages are being delivered by them this week. If it is illegal, is my apartment complex, the parcel locker, or USPS the one violating the law? If it matters, the state is North Carolina. Any help is much appreciated.

h69kl9s

h692uq5

You may also be able to file a complaint with a tenancy office in your state. This seems like an arbitrary addition to rent and they may order your rent be decreased the amount charged by the service.

It's weird that they delivered to the locker even though you never opted in. You should have a case against the apartment office if they give you any BS. But at the same time, a parcel locker is like $20 one time payment with fees for leaving packages in them longer than 3 days. I would say that the effort fighting this is not worth $20, and my apartment package locker gives me peace of mind that I won't have packages stolen.

oq1nht

legaladvice_train

USPS delivering my packages to a pay-to-access parcel locker at my apartment complex rather than use my mailbox or deliver to my door I’m assuming this has to be illegal. I’m interested if anyone has a citation for me especially, but I’d be happy for confirmation about whether this is legal or not. My apartment complex had a parcel locker installed a few months ago, where packages can be delivered and you get them at your convenience, and the packages are safe from porch pirates in the meantime. I tried to sign up, but it isn’t a free service, so I opted out. Since then, all my packages were delivered to my door or mailbox, but last week the postal service delivered two of my packages to the parcel locker. The apartment complex won’t help and told me to just sign up for an account to get my packages, and do it quick because the longer they sit in the locker, the more the parcel locker will charge me. I’ve asked Usps to look into it, but after 3 business days I’ve gotten no response. I can’t access several of my packages delivered by USPS now, and two more packages are being delivered by them this week. If it is illegal, is my apartment complex, the parcel locker, or USPS the one violating the law? If it matters, the state is North Carolina. Any help is much appreciated.

h69kl9s

h69jbtx

You may also be able to file a complaint with a tenancy office in your state. This seems like an arbitrary addition to rent and they may order your rent be decreased the amount charged by the service.

Report it to the postmaster general as possible mail theft/shady shit.

hcv23z

legaladvice_train

Moved out 20 days ago, landlord is charging us for someone breaking in and withholding security deposit So, as the title says, my roommate and I moved out of a duplex we were renting on the 31st of May and handed the landlord the keys after spending the weekend cleaning and making the empty house look presentable. The landlord and her husband walked through and said that everything looked nice and would get back to us about the deposit. Three days ago, we received an email listing repairs and cleaning she had to do herself and had to hire a service for, including things like wiping down the walls and “dirty floors” throughout the house. She even said she removed a large tree and bush from the backyard and that the total costs were almost a thousand dollars more than our deposit. She did not include any receipts or proof of any of the costs. Few of the things she listed I agree with, but many I do not. My roommate and I were ready to just take the L and let it go, but then earlier today we received a text from her informing us that someone had broken into the house and caused a bit of damage and is requesting that we send her $350 each as soon as we can. I would like to now fight her for the security deposit, but my biggest question is if she can do anything like take us to court over just ignoring her request for money? If we have text and email proof that she would not charge us the extra $1,000 of out of pocket costs, can she later come after us for that money? Any help is appreciated. We live in California, by the way.

fvhy29r

fvhkroi

Small claims. Once you turned in the key, you’re done. Did you take any pictures? She may back peddle if she knows you will be taking her to court because she will have to show proof. Also, any “improvements“ are solely the responsibility of the owner. The court will laugh in her face about the break-in claim. Tell her, that she either gives you deposit back or you will sue. Don’t heed her threats.

I'm assuming the tree was there when you moved in? Was lawn maintenance your responsibility? The only way you would be responsible for tree removal would be if you planted it, or if for some reason your lease made it clear that removing this tree was a responsibility of the tenant for some reason. Like, if you were getting a rent reduction conditioned on certain landscaping you were meant to have done. As far as the breaking, this depends on whether the lease had actually ended. If the lease ended on the 31st, and you surrendered the property, so did your obligation to protect it. If the lease was to last until the end of June, and a breaking happened while you were still technically renting the place even though you weren't living there, you could possibly be held responsible for those damages. This would be limited to things like "the thief broke the dishwasher," though, and not "rekeyed the apartment." If this is the case, you should contact your rental insurance if you have it. They might be able to help you navigate this.

hcv23z

legaladvice_train

Moved out 20 days ago, landlord is charging us for someone breaking in and withholding security deposit So, as the title says, my roommate and I moved out of a duplex we were renting on the 31st of May and handed the landlord the keys after spending the weekend cleaning and making the empty house look presentable. The landlord and her husband walked through and said that everything looked nice and would get back to us about the deposit. Three days ago, we received an email listing repairs and cleaning she had to do herself and had to hire a service for, including things like wiping down the walls and “dirty floors” throughout the house. She even said she removed a large tree and bush from the backyard and that the total costs were almost a thousand dollars more than our deposit. She did not include any receipts or proof of any of the costs. Few of the things she listed I agree with, but many I do not. My roommate and I were ready to just take the L and let it go, but then earlier today we received a text from her informing us that someone had broken into the house and caused a bit of damage and is requesting that we send her $350 each as soon as we can. I would like to now fight her for the security deposit, but my biggest question is if she can do anything like take us to court over just ignoring her request for money? If we have text and email proof that she would not charge us the extra $1,000 of out of pocket costs, can she later come after us for that money? Any help is appreciated. We live in California, by the way.

fvhlq6d

fvhy29r

Not a lawyer, property manager but not in your state. You are absolutely not responsible for the large tree and bush in the back yard. Those can be expensive, but she elected to remove them, and they had nothing to do with the returned condition of the home. If someone broke into the home after you returned the keys, that is her problem, not yours. You returned the keys and at that point you were done. Any break in after that has nothing to do with you. Regarding the cleaning described, did you take any photos after you were finished moving all of your belongings out and cleaning? That is a necessity. If you smoked, vaped or used a lot of candles in the home, then the walls may have needed special cleaning before Painting, and it would be reasonable to charge you for that since it is not a normal part of turnover. That can be very expensive and generally is awarded to landlords by courts. You can always File with the court to recover your deposit If you cannot come to an agreement.

Small claims. Once you turned in the key, you’re done. Did you take any pictures? She may back peddle if she knows you will be taking her to court because she will have to show proof. Also, any “improvements“ are solely the responsibility of the owner. The court will laugh in her face about the break-in claim. Tell her, that she either gives you deposit back or you will sue. Don’t heed her threats.

ax1on3

legaladvice_train

My friend drove away from a tow truck driver attempting to tow his vehicle at my appartement building without paying. Alberta, Canada. So my friend was over at my appartement building and he was parked in visitor parking without a permit. At around 12 am he went to leave and a tow truck (private company) had my friends truck lifted up and attached to the tow truck. We pleaded with the driver to let it go but he insisted that we give him 150 dollars to drop it. Eventually I agreed to pay and he dropped the truck and unhooked everything. As soon as everything was unhooked my friend drove away without paying. I am just wondering if we did anything illegal? From my understanding as soon as he dropped my friends truck and unhooked it, the tow truck driver was no longer in possession of the vehicle and we were within our legal rights to leave. Also my friend never agreed to pay anything, I did but it was not my vehicle or my responsibility to do so.

ehqpu8f

ehrofaf

> visitor parking without a permit. Visitors need a permit?

Tow truck driver must be a newbie. Never heard of them unhooking a car without cash in hand (for this very reason).

7ca01s

legaladvice_train

Tow truck driver told me I had 3 seconds to step back or he'd put a gun to my head. This morning at around 3 am, my friend noticed a tow truck lifting my car. I went running outside and he followed behind. When I got up to the truck, he wss sitting inside with the window rolled down ready to back out and was telling me to step back, and I stood my ground and told him to drop my car. Once again he told me to step back and I asked why I was being towed. He then told me I had about 3 seconds to back up or he was going to put a gun to my head. I replied something like "Did you for real just tell me you're gonna put a gun to my head?". He then stepped out and was telling my friend and I were about to get hurt, while holding his hand behind his back. My other friends then came outside to see what was up and he got back in the truck and began threatening them too. Once they backed off and he cooled down, he got out and told me the reason why I was being towed was because I didn't have a permit to park where I was and it would be 62.50 to drop the truck. There was no gates, signs, or labeling anywhere on the spots that said I need a permit to park in the lot. Apparently you needed one anyways. If I was parked illegally, I get it and I'll pay the fine. I just want to know if I can legally do anything about the threats he made with a gun. Thanks

dpogzfa

dpo922d

>There was no gates, signs, or labeling anywhere on the spots that said I need a permit to park in the lot. If that is true, then you were improperly towed. Signage is required at entrance/exits by law in Orlando and Orange county (be sure to check boundaries on a map). Not that it's really going to help you much as the signs will magically appear the moment they get a whiff of an actual formal complaint. And of course they will have been there forever. I'd really suggest returning to the location in the daytime and check first. It's amazing how often the signs pop up after someone say they didn't see them. And about the gun and threats. As you can well imagine, driving a tow truck is more than a little dangerous. Many drivers carry and others will make you _think_ they have a gun when they don't. It's mostly a way to avoid physical altercations, but threatening you like that is illegal. Just wanted you to understand why it happened. Something else I could tell you is that a lot of times tow truck companies work very closely with law enforcement so legal complaints go no where with them. However, I'd bet good money that a guy doing private property tows in Orlando is not with the company that does the police/government contracts in Orlando and Orange county. In fact, there is a good chance that the cops hate whatever company he does work for and they might even be real interested in what you have to say.

Where were you parked? Did he have any reason to feel threatened? Imagine if four or five angry guys ran out of an apartment and started screaming at him, for example.

7ca01s

legaladvice_train

Tow truck driver told me I had 3 seconds to step back or he'd put a gun to my head. This morning at around 3 am, my friend noticed a tow truck lifting my car. I went running outside and he followed behind. When I got up to the truck, he wss sitting inside with the window rolled down ready to back out and was telling me to step back, and I stood my ground and told him to drop my car. Once again he told me to step back and I asked why I was being towed. He then told me I had about 3 seconds to back up or he was going to put a gun to my head. I replied something like "Did you for real just tell me you're gonna put a gun to my head?". He then stepped out and was telling my friend and I were about to get hurt, while holding his hand behind his back. My other friends then came outside to see what was up and he got back in the truck and began threatening them too. Once they backed off and he cooled down, he got out and told me the reason why I was being towed was because I didn't have a permit to park where I was and it would be 62.50 to drop the truck. There was no gates, signs, or labeling anywhere on the spots that said I need a permit to park in the lot. Apparently you needed one anyways. If I was parked illegally, I get it and I'll pay the fine. I just want to know if I can legally do anything about the threats he made with a gun. Thanks

dpogzfa

dpobxri

>There was no gates, signs, or labeling anywhere on the spots that said I need a permit to park in the lot. If that is true, then you were improperly towed. Signage is required at entrance/exits by law in Orlando and Orange county (be sure to check boundaries on a map). Not that it's really going to help you much as the signs will magically appear the moment they get a whiff of an actual formal complaint. And of course they will have been there forever. I'd really suggest returning to the location in the daytime and check first. It's amazing how often the signs pop up after someone say they didn't see them. And about the gun and threats. As you can well imagine, driving a tow truck is more than a little dangerous. Many drivers carry and others will make you _think_ they have a gun when they don't. It's mostly a way to avoid physical altercations, but threatening you like that is illegal. Just wanted you to understand why it happened. Something else I could tell you is that a lot of times tow truck companies work very closely with law enforcement so legal complaints go no where with them. However, I'd bet good money that a guy doing private property tows in Orlando is not with the company that does the police/government contracts in Orlando and Orange county. In fact, there is a good chance that the cops hate whatever company he does work for and they might even be real interested in what you have to say.

Call the tow company too.

7ca01s

legaladvice_train

Tow truck driver told me I had 3 seconds to step back or he'd put a gun to my head. This morning at around 3 am, my friend noticed a tow truck lifting my car. I went running outside and he followed behind. When I got up to the truck, he wss sitting inside with the window rolled down ready to back out and was telling me to step back, and I stood my ground and told him to drop my car. Once again he told me to step back and I asked why I was being towed. He then told me I had about 3 seconds to back up or he was going to put a gun to my head. I replied something like "Did you for real just tell me you're gonna put a gun to my head?". He then stepped out and was telling my friend and I were about to get hurt, while holding his hand behind his back. My other friends then came outside to see what was up and he got back in the truck and began threatening them too. Once they backed off and he cooled down, he got out and told me the reason why I was being towed was because I didn't have a permit to park where I was and it would be 62.50 to drop the truck. There was no gates, signs, or labeling anywhere on the spots that said I need a permit to park in the lot. Apparently you needed one anyways. If I was parked illegally, I get it and I'll pay the fine. I just want to know if I can legally do anything about the threats he made with a gun. Thanks

dpogzfa

dpo9032

>There was no gates, signs, or labeling anywhere on the spots that said I need a permit to park in the lot. If that is true, then you were improperly towed. Signage is required at entrance/exits by law in Orlando and Orange county (be sure to check boundaries on a map). Not that it's really going to help you much as the signs will magically appear the moment they get a whiff of an actual formal complaint. And of course they will have been there forever. I'd really suggest returning to the location in the daytime and check first. It's amazing how often the signs pop up after someone say they didn't see them. And about the gun and threats. As you can well imagine, driving a tow truck is more than a little dangerous. Many drivers carry and others will make you _think_ they have a gun when they don't. It's mostly a way to avoid physical altercations, but threatening you like that is illegal. Just wanted you to understand why it happened. Something else I could tell you is that a lot of times tow truck companies work very closely with law enforcement so legal complaints go no where with them. However, I'd bet good money that a guy doing private property tows in Orlando is not with the company that does the police/government contracts in Orlando and Orange county. In fact, there is a good chance that the cops hate whatever company he does work for and they might even be real interested in what you have to say.

Where did this happen?

7ca01s

legaladvice_train

Tow truck driver told me I had 3 seconds to step back or he'd put a gun to my head. This morning at around 3 am, my friend noticed a tow truck lifting my car. I went running outside and he followed behind. When I got up to the truck, he wss sitting inside with the window rolled down ready to back out and was telling me to step back, and I stood my ground and told him to drop my car. Once again he told me to step back and I asked why I was being towed. He then told me I had about 3 seconds to back up or he was going to put a gun to my head. I replied something like "Did you for real just tell me you're gonna put a gun to my head?". He then stepped out and was telling my friend and I were about to get hurt, while holding his hand behind his back. My other friends then came outside to see what was up and he got back in the truck and began threatening them too. Once they backed off and he cooled down, he got out and told me the reason why I was being towed was because I didn't have a permit to park where I was and it would be 62.50 to drop the truck. There was no gates, signs, or labeling anywhere on the spots that said I need a permit to park in the lot. Apparently you needed one anyways. If I was parked illegally, I get it and I'll pay the fine. I just want to know if I can legally do anything about the threats he made with a gun. Thanks

dpogzfa

dpoemax

>There was no gates, signs, or labeling anywhere on the spots that said I need a permit to park in the lot. If that is true, then you were improperly towed. Signage is required at entrance/exits by law in Orlando and Orange county (be sure to check boundaries on a map). Not that it's really going to help you much as the signs will magically appear the moment they get a whiff of an actual formal complaint. And of course they will have been there forever. I'd really suggest returning to the location in the daytime and check first. It's amazing how often the signs pop up after someone say they didn't see them. And about the gun and threats. As you can well imagine, driving a tow truck is more than a little dangerous. Many drivers carry and others will make you _think_ they have a gun when they don't. It's mostly a way to avoid physical altercations, but threatening you like that is illegal. Just wanted you to understand why it happened. Something else I could tell you is that a lot of times tow truck companies work very closely with law enforcement so legal complaints go no where with them. However, I'd bet good money that a guy doing private property tows in Orlando is not with the company that does the police/government contracts in Orlando and Orange county. In fact, there is a good chance that the cops hate whatever company he does work for and they might even be real interested in what you have to say.

Did you pay the 60? What did the AirBnB host/listing say about parking? If the host knew that a permit was needed and didn't tell you, maybe you could ask the host to reimburse the $. If the host didn't know, consider calling the tow company. Call the police to report the threat regardless. Not a lawyer

7ca01s

legaladvice_train

Tow truck driver told me I had 3 seconds to step back or he'd put a gun to my head. This morning at around 3 am, my friend noticed a tow truck lifting my car. I went running outside and he followed behind. When I got up to the truck, he wss sitting inside with the window rolled down ready to back out and was telling me to step back, and I stood my ground and told him to drop my car. Once again he told me to step back and I asked why I was being towed. He then told me I had about 3 seconds to back up or he was going to put a gun to my head. I replied something like "Did you for real just tell me you're gonna put a gun to my head?". He then stepped out and was telling my friend and I were about to get hurt, while holding his hand behind his back. My other friends then came outside to see what was up and he got back in the truck and began threatening them too. Once they backed off and he cooled down, he got out and told me the reason why I was being towed was because I didn't have a permit to park where I was and it would be 62.50 to drop the truck. There was no gates, signs, or labeling anywhere on the spots that said I need a permit to park in the lot. Apparently you needed one anyways. If I was parked illegally, I get it and I'll pay the fine. I just want to know if I can legally do anything about the threats he made with a gun. Thanks

dpogzfa

dpog56q

>There was no gates, signs, or labeling anywhere on the spots that said I need a permit to park in the lot. If that is true, then you were improperly towed. Signage is required at entrance/exits by law in Orlando and Orange county (be sure to check boundaries on a map). Not that it's really going to help you much as the signs will magically appear the moment they get a whiff of an actual formal complaint. And of course they will have been there forever. I'd really suggest returning to the location in the daytime and check first. It's amazing how often the signs pop up after someone say they didn't see them. And about the gun and threats. As you can well imagine, driving a tow truck is more than a little dangerous. Many drivers carry and others will make you _think_ they have a gun when they don't. It's mostly a way to avoid physical altercations, but threatening you like that is illegal. Just wanted you to understand why it happened. Something else I could tell you is that a lot of times tow truck companies work very closely with law enforcement so legal complaints go no where with them. However, I'd bet good money that a guy doing private property tows in Orlando is not with the company that does the police/government contracts in Orlando and Orange county. In fact, there is a good chance that the cops hate whatever company he does work for and they might even be real interested in what you have to say.

Did he tow your car? Did he let it down? Did you pay him?

7ca01s

legaladvice_train

Tow truck driver told me I had 3 seconds to step back or he'd put a gun to my head. This morning at around 3 am, my friend noticed a tow truck lifting my car. I went running outside and he followed behind. When I got up to the truck, he wss sitting inside with the window rolled down ready to back out and was telling me to step back, and I stood my ground and told him to drop my car. Once again he told me to step back and I asked why I was being towed. He then told me I had about 3 seconds to back up or he was going to put a gun to my head. I replied something like "Did you for real just tell me you're gonna put a gun to my head?". He then stepped out and was telling my friend and I were about to get hurt, while holding his hand behind his back. My other friends then came outside to see what was up and he got back in the truck and began threatening them too. Once they backed off and he cooled down, he got out and told me the reason why I was being towed was because I didn't have a permit to park where I was and it would be 62.50 to drop the truck. There was no gates, signs, or labeling anywhere on the spots that said I need a permit to park in the lot. Apparently you needed one anyways. If I was parked illegally, I get it and I'll pay the fine. I just want to know if I can legally do anything about the threats he made with a gun. Thanks

dpo8utg

dpogzfa

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>There was no gates, signs, or labeling anywhere on the spots that said I need a permit to park in the lot. If that is true, then you were improperly towed. Signage is required at entrance/exits by law in Orlando and Orange county (be sure to check boundaries on a map). Not that it's really going to help you much as the signs will magically appear the moment they get a whiff of an actual formal complaint. And of course they will have been there forever. I'd really suggest returning to the location in the daytime and check first. It's amazing how often the signs pop up after someone say they didn't see them. And about the gun and threats. As you can well imagine, driving a tow truck is more than a little dangerous. Many drivers carry and others will make you _think_ they have a gun when they don't. It's mostly a way to avoid physical altercations, but threatening you like that is illegal. Just wanted you to understand why it happened. Something else I could tell you is that a lot of times tow truck companies work very closely with law enforcement so legal complaints go no where with them. However, I'd bet good money that a guy doing private property tows in Orlando is not with the company that does the police/government contracts in Orlando and Orange county. In fact, there is a good chance that the cops hate whatever company he does work for and they might even be real interested in what you have to say.

7ca01s

legaladvice_train

Tow truck driver told me I had 3 seconds to step back or he'd put a gun to my head. This morning at around 3 am, my friend noticed a tow truck lifting my car. I went running outside and he followed behind. When I got up to the truck, he wss sitting inside with the window rolled down ready to back out and was telling me to step back, and I stood my ground and told him to drop my car. Once again he told me to step back and I asked why I was being towed. He then told me I had about 3 seconds to back up or he was going to put a gun to my head. I replied something like "Did you for real just tell me you're gonna put a gun to my head?". He then stepped out and was telling my friend and I were about to get hurt, while holding his hand behind his back. My other friends then came outside to see what was up and he got back in the truck and began threatening them too. Once they backed off and he cooled down, he got out and told me the reason why I was being towed was because I didn't have a permit to park where I was and it would be 62.50 to drop the truck. There was no gates, signs, or labeling anywhere on the spots that said I need a permit to park in the lot. Apparently you needed one anyways. If I was parked illegally, I get it and I'll pay the fine. I just want to know if I can legally do anything about the threats he made with a gun. Thanks

dpo922d

dpo9032

Where were you parked? Did he have any reason to feel threatened? Imagine if four or five angry guys ran out of an apartment and started screaming at him, for example.

Where did this happen?

7ca01s

legaladvice_train

Tow truck driver told me I had 3 seconds to step back or he'd put a gun to my head. This morning at around 3 am, my friend noticed a tow truck lifting my car. I went running outside and he followed behind. When I got up to the truck, he wss sitting inside with the window rolled down ready to back out and was telling me to step back, and I stood my ground and told him to drop my car. Once again he told me to step back and I asked why I was being towed. He then told me I had about 3 seconds to back up or he was going to put a gun to my head. I replied something like "Did you for real just tell me you're gonna put a gun to my head?". He then stepped out and was telling my friend and I were about to get hurt, while holding his hand behind his back. My other friends then came outside to see what was up and he got back in the truck and began threatening them too. Once they backed off and he cooled down, he got out and told me the reason why I was being towed was because I didn't have a permit to park where I was and it would be 62.50 to drop the truck. There was no gates, signs, or labeling anywhere on the spots that said I need a permit to park in the lot. Apparently you needed one anyways. If I was parked illegally, I get it and I'll pay the fine. I just want to know if I can legally do anything about the threats he made with a gun. Thanks

dpo922d

dpo8utg

Where were you parked? Did he have any reason to feel threatened? Imagine if four or five angry guys ran out of an apartment and started screaming at him, for example.

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7ca01s

legaladvice_train

Tow truck driver told me I had 3 seconds to step back or he'd put a gun to my head. This morning at around 3 am, my friend noticed a tow truck lifting my car. I went running outside and he followed behind. When I got up to the truck, he wss sitting inside with the window rolled down ready to back out and was telling me to step back, and I stood my ground and told him to drop my car. Once again he told me to step back and I asked why I was being towed. He then told me I had about 3 seconds to back up or he was going to put a gun to my head. I replied something like "Did you for real just tell me you're gonna put a gun to my head?". He then stepped out and was telling my friend and I were about to get hurt, while holding his hand behind his back. My other friends then came outside to see what was up and he got back in the truck and began threatening them too. Once they backed off and he cooled down, he got out and told me the reason why I was being towed was because I didn't have a permit to park where I was and it would be 62.50 to drop the truck. There was no gates, signs, or labeling anywhere on the spots that said I need a permit to park in the lot. Apparently you needed one anyways. If I was parked illegally, I get it and I'll pay the fine. I just want to know if I can legally do anything about the threats he made with a gun. Thanks

dpo9032

dpobxri

Where did this happen?

Call the tow company too.

7ca01s

legaladvice_train

Tow truck driver told me I had 3 seconds to step back or he'd put a gun to my head. This morning at around 3 am, my friend noticed a tow truck lifting my car. I went running outside and he followed behind. When I got up to the truck, he wss sitting inside with the window rolled down ready to back out and was telling me to step back, and I stood my ground and told him to drop my car. Once again he told me to step back and I asked why I was being towed. He then told me I had about 3 seconds to back up or he was going to put a gun to my head. I replied something like "Did you for real just tell me you're gonna put a gun to my head?". He then stepped out and was telling my friend and I were about to get hurt, while holding his hand behind his back. My other friends then came outside to see what was up and he got back in the truck and began threatening them too. Once they backed off and he cooled down, he got out and told me the reason why I was being towed was because I didn't have a permit to park where I was and it would be 62.50 to drop the truck. There was no gates, signs, or labeling anywhere on the spots that said I need a permit to park in the lot. Apparently you needed one anyways. If I was parked illegally, I get it and I'll pay the fine. I just want to know if I can legally do anything about the threats he made with a gun. Thanks

dpobxri

dpo8utg

Call the tow company too.

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7ca01s

legaladvice_train

Tow truck driver told me I had 3 seconds to step back or he'd put a gun to my head. This morning at around 3 am, my friend noticed a tow truck lifting my car. I went running outside and he followed behind. When I got up to the truck, he wss sitting inside with the window rolled down ready to back out and was telling me to step back, and I stood my ground and told him to drop my car. Once again he told me to step back and I asked why I was being towed. He then told me I had about 3 seconds to back up or he was going to put a gun to my head. I replied something like "Did you for real just tell me you're gonna put a gun to my head?". He then stepped out and was telling my friend and I were about to get hurt, while holding his hand behind his back. My other friends then came outside to see what was up and he got back in the truck and began threatening them too. Once they backed off and he cooled down, he got out and told me the reason why I was being towed was because I didn't have a permit to park where I was and it would be 62.50 to drop the truck. There was no gates, signs, or labeling anywhere on the spots that said I need a permit to park in the lot. Apparently you needed one anyways. If I was parked illegally, I get it and I'll pay the fine. I just want to know if I can legally do anything about the threats he made with a gun. Thanks

dpo8utg

dpo9032

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Where did this happen?

7ca01s

legaladvice_train

Tow truck driver told me I had 3 seconds to step back or he'd put a gun to my head. This morning at around 3 am, my friend noticed a tow truck lifting my car. I went running outside and he followed behind. When I got up to the truck, he wss sitting inside with the window rolled down ready to back out and was telling me to step back, and I stood my ground and told him to drop my car. Once again he told me to step back and I asked why I was being towed. He then told me I had about 3 seconds to back up or he was going to put a gun to my head. I replied something like "Did you for real just tell me you're gonna put a gun to my head?". He then stepped out and was telling my friend and I were about to get hurt, while holding his hand behind his back. My other friends then came outside to see what was up and he got back in the truck and began threatening them too. Once they backed off and he cooled down, he got out and told me the reason why I was being towed was because I didn't have a permit to park where I was and it would be 62.50 to drop the truck. There was no gates, signs, or labeling anywhere on the spots that said I need a permit to park in the lot. Apparently you needed one anyways. If I was parked illegally, I get it and I'll pay the fine. I just want to know if I can legally do anything about the threats he made with a gun. Thanks

dpoemax

dpo8utg

Did you pay the 60? What did the AirBnB host/listing say about parking? If the host knew that a permit was needed and didn't tell you, maybe you could ask the host to reimburse the $. If the host didn't know, consider calling the tow company. Call the police to report the threat regardless. Not a lawyer

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7ca01s

legaladvice_train

Tow truck driver told me I had 3 seconds to step back or he'd put a gun to my head. This morning at around 3 am, my friend noticed a tow truck lifting my car. I went running outside and he followed behind. When I got up to the truck, he wss sitting inside with the window rolled down ready to back out and was telling me to step back, and I stood my ground and told him to drop my car. Once again he told me to step back and I asked why I was being towed. He then told me I had about 3 seconds to back up or he was going to put a gun to my head. I replied something like "Did you for real just tell me you're gonna put a gun to my head?". He then stepped out and was telling my friend and I were about to get hurt, while holding his hand behind his back. My other friends then came outside to see what was up and he got back in the truck and began threatening them too. Once they backed off and he cooled down, he got out and told me the reason why I was being towed was because I didn't have a permit to park where I was and it would be 62.50 to drop the truck. There was no gates, signs, or labeling anywhere on the spots that said I need a permit to park in the lot. Apparently you needed one anyways. If I was parked illegally, I get it and I'll pay the fine. I just want to know if I can legally do anything about the threats he made with a gun. Thanks

dpoos4l

dpog56q

If this guy has a CCP and was actually carrying a pistol, he did *not* handle that the right way.

Did he tow your car? Did he let it down? Did you pay him?

7ca01s

legaladvice_train

Tow truck driver told me I had 3 seconds to step back or he'd put a gun to my head. This morning at around 3 am, my friend noticed a tow truck lifting my car. I went running outside and he followed behind. When I got up to the truck, he wss sitting inside with the window rolled down ready to back out and was telling me to step back, and I stood my ground and told him to drop my car. Once again he told me to step back and I asked why I was being towed. He then told me I had about 3 seconds to back up or he was going to put a gun to my head. I replied something like "Did you for real just tell me you're gonna put a gun to my head?". He then stepped out and was telling my friend and I were about to get hurt, while holding his hand behind his back. My other friends then came outside to see what was up and he got back in the truck and began threatening them too. Once they backed off and he cooled down, he got out and told me the reason why I was being towed was because I didn't have a permit to park where I was and it would be 62.50 to drop the truck. There was no gates, signs, or labeling anywhere on the spots that said I need a permit to park in the lot. Apparently you needed one anyways. If I was parked illegally, I get it and I'll pay the fine. I just want to know if I can legally do anything about the threats he made with a gun. Thanks

dpoos4l

dpo8utg

If this guy has a CCP and was actually carrying a pistol, he did *not* handle that the right way.

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Tow truck driver told me I had 3 seconds to step back or he'd put a gun to my head. This morning at around 3 am, my friend noticed a tow truck lifting my car. I went running outside and he followed behind. When I got up to the truck, he wss sitting inside with the window rolled down ready to back out and was telling me to step back, and I stood my ground and told him to drop my car. Once again he told me to step back and I asked why I was being towed. He then told me I had about 3 seconds to back up or he was going to put a gun to my head. I replied something like "Did you for real just tell me you're gonna put a gun to my head?". He then stepped out and was telling my friend and I were about to get hurt, while holding his hand behind his back. My other friends then came outside to see what was up and he got back in the truck and began threatening them too. Once they backed off and he cooled down, he got out and told me the reason why I was being towed was because I didn't have a permit to park where I was and it would be 62.50 to drop the truck. There was no gates, signs, or labeling anywhere on the spots that said I need a permit to park in the lot. Apparently you needed one anyways. If I was parked illegally, I get it and I'll pay the fine. I just want to know if I can legally do anything about the threats he made with a gun. Thanks

dpovu6h

dpo8utg

You can call your state’s department of motor vehicles. In Iowa, towing companies are heavily regulated by the DOT — my company has been audited multiple times, and I don’t go a day without seeing traffic enforcement vehicles on the interstate. What good it will do is up in the air, but odds are if this company is hiring thugs willing to threaten to use a gun on you and then lie about it, someone already knows how shady they are. His request for the drop fee is accurate, but he should have attempted to de-escalate the situation, rather than threatening to pull a gun on you. Keep at it with the police. Scum like this give my business a bad name.

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7ca01s

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Tow truck driver told me I had 3 seconds to step back or he'd put a gun to my head. This morning at around 3 am, my friend noticed a tow truck lifting my car. I went running outside and he followed behind. When I got up to the truck, he wss sitting inside with the window rolled down ready to back out and was telling me to step back, and I stood my ground and told him to drop my car. Once again he told me to step back and I asked why I was being towed. He then told me I had about 3 seconds to back up or he was going to put a gun to my head. I replied something like "Did you for real just tell me you're gonna put a gun to my head?". He then stepped out and was telling my friend and I were about to get hurt, while holding his hand behind his back. My other friends then came outside to see what was up and he got back in the truck and began threatening them too. Once they backed off and he cooled down, he got out and told me the reason why I was being towed was because I didn't have a permit to park where I was and it would be 62.50 to drop the truck. There was no gates, signs, or labeling anywhere on the spots that said I need a permit to park in the lot. Apparently you needed one anyways. If I was parked illegally, I get it and I'll pay the fine. I just want to know if I can legally do anything about the threats he made with a gun. Thanks

dpog56q

dpo8utg

Did he tow your car? Did he let it down? Did you pay him?

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94y272

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[WA] Hotel advertised wifi, couldn't even pick up signal from room. Charged me for 1 night when I cancelled 5 minutes after checking in. tl;dr: Hotel advertised wifi, wifi was literally unusable. Asked for refund and was still charged one night's stay. Seeking full refund. This is relatively small potatoes compared to a lot of what I see on this sub, but the way I was treated irked me enough to want some recourse. Anyway, I'm working out of town for a while and booked a hotel for a full month stay. Wifi is a must for me and their website stated it was available. After checking in and paying I try to connect in my room only to find that I can't even find their network listed in my wifi settings. Turns out they have one shitty router in their office which is 200+ feet from the rooms. Bringing my laptop right next to the office only gets me 2.5 mbps, which itself is barely usable. Seeing that there isn't any serviceable wifi and I'll be there for a month I ask for a refund, to which I'm told I'll be charged for one night. "We held the room for you and we're legally required to clean it so you have to pay." I informed her I did not receive the service their website promised and as such I shouldn't be charged anything. Had I known the wifi was unusable I would never had made the reservation. No luck. I was rudely informed that I was lucky to get anything because normally they don't offer any sort of refund at all and that my cancelation is an immense burden on their business. I remain calm and respectful but as I persist she just gets angrier and more boisterous. I'm frustrated, but ultimately I agree to the partial refund because there's really nothing more I can do. I'm hoping there is something that can be done to compel the hotel to give me a full refund. To me this seems like a clear case of false advertisement. Their website advertises a service that their facility fails to deliver on. Is there a government agency to contact that could resolve this? I can't imagine hiring a lawyer would be economical as I'm only out around $80. Thanks for your time.

e3pf570

e3pb9ch

You aren't due anything for what amounts to a free amenity. If it was that important, you should have shopped for what you needed before booking the hotel. Called the hotel. Asked questions. You were presumptuous, and that is on you. The hotel shouldn't be out money due to your lack of planning or foresight. They are a hotel, not an internet cafe.

Wait, you want a full refund because their Wi-Fi was bad??if this is the case you have no case. If you used the service provided (a room) you need to pay for the room. They gave a partial refund which seems nice on their part. Just move hotels, the situation is handled as much as it can and should be.

94y272

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[WA] Hotel advertised wifi, couldn't even pick up signal from room. Charged me for 1 night when I cancelled 5 minutes after checking in. tl;dr: Hotel advertised wifi, wifi was literally unusable. Asked for refund and was still charged one night's stay. Seeking full refund. This is relatively small potatoes compared to a lot of what I see on this sub, but the way I was treated irked me enough to want some recourse. Anyway, I'm working out of town for a while and booked a hotel for a full month stay. Wifi is a must for me and their website stated it was available. After checking in and paying I try to connect in my room only to find that I can't even find their network listed in my wifi settings. Turns out they have one shitty router in their office which is 200+ feet from the rooms. Bringing my laptop right next to the office only gets me 2.5 mbps, which itself is barely usable. Seeing that there isn't any serviceable wifi and I'll be there for a month I ask for a refund, to which I'm told I'll be charged for one night. "We held the room for you and we're legally required to clean it so you have to pay." I informed her I did not receive the service their website promised and as such I shouldn't be charged anything. Had I known the wifi was unusable I would never had made the reservation. No luck. I was rudely informed that I was lucky to get anything because normally they don't offer any sort of refund at all and that my cancelation is an immense burden on their business. I remain calm and respectful but as I persist she just gets angrier and more boisterous. I'm frustrated, but ultimately I agree to the partial refund because there's really nothing more I can do. I'm hoping there is something that can be done to compel the hotel to give me a full refund. To me this seems like a clear case of false advertisement. Their website advertises a service that their facility fails to deliver on. Is there a government agency to contact that could resolve this? I can't imagine hiring a lawyer would be economical as I'm only out around $80. Thanks for your time.

e3pcruw

e3pf570

What if they have a 5g ac network and your laptop couldn't pick it up? All hotels/motels I've seen charge 1 night for canceling at the last minute. Perhaps requesting a discount would be better. But they advertised wifi and they had it. Unless it said in room wifi they aren't doing anything wrong.

You aren't due anything for what amounts to a free amenity. If it was that important, you should have shopped for what you needed before booking the hotel. Called the hotel. Asked questions. You were presumptuous, and that is on you. The hotel shouldn't be out money due to your lack of planning or foresight. They are a hotel, not an internet cafe.

94y272

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[WA] Hotel advertised wifi, couldn't even pick up signal from room. Charged me for 1 night when I cancelled 5 minutes after checking in. tl;dr: Hotel advertised wifi, wifi was literally unusable. Asked for refund and was still charged one night's stay. Seeking full refund. This is relatively small potatoes compared to a lot of what I see on this sub, but the way I was treated irked me enough to want some recourse. Anyway, I'm working out of town for a while and booked a hotel for a full month stay. Wifi is a must for me and their website stated it was available. After checking in and paying I try to connect in my room only to find that I can't even find their network listed in my wifi settings. Turns out they have one shitty router in their office which is 200+ feet from the rooms. Bringing my laptop right next to the office only gets me 2.5 mbps, which itself is barely usable. Seeing that there isn't any serviceable wifi and I'll be there for a month I ask for a refund, to which I'm told I'll be charged for one night. "We held the room for you and we're legally required to clean it so you have to pay." I informed her I did not receive the service their website promised and as such I shouldn't be charged anything. Had I known the wifi was unusable I would never had made the reservation. No luck. I was rudely informed that I was lucky to get anything because normally they don't offer any sort of refund at all and that my cancelation is an immense burden on their business. I remain calm and respectful but as I persist she just gets angrier and more boisterous. I'm frustrated, but ultimately I agree to the partial refund because there's really nothing more I can do. I'm hoping there is something that can be done to compel the hotel to give me a full refund. To me this seems like a clear case of false advertisement. Their website advertises a service that their facility fails to deliver on. Is there a government agency to contact that could resolve this? I can't imagine hiring a lawyer would be economical as I'm only out around $80. Thanks for your time.

e3plx8l

e3pcruw

So...you want a refund for a free amenity you deemed unacceptable? The absolute nerve of some people.

What if they have a 5g ac network and your laptop couldn't pick it up? All hotels/motels I've seen charge 1 night for canceling at the last minute. Perhaps requesting a discount would be better. But they advertised wifi and they had it. Unless it said in room wifi they aren't doing anything wrong.

94y272

legaladvice_train

[WA] Hotel advertised wifi, couldn't even pick up signal from room. Charged me for 1 night when I cancelled 5 minutes after checking in. tl;dr: Hotel advertised wifi, wifi was literally unusable. Asked for refund and was still charged one night's stay. Seeking full refund. This is relatively small potatoes compared to a lot of what I see on this sub, but the way I was treated irked me enough to want some recourse. Anyway, I'm working out of town for a while and booked a hotel for a full month stay. Wifi is a must for me and their website stated it was available. After checking in and paying I try to connect in my room only to find that I can't even find their network listed in my wifi settings. Turns out they have one shitty router in their office which is 200+ feet from the rooms. Bringing my laptop right next to the office only gets me 2.5 mbps, which itself is barely usable. Seeing that there isn't any serviceable wifi and I'll be there for a month I ask for a refund, to which I'm told I'll be charged for one night. "We held the room for you and we're legally required to clean it so you have to pay." I informed her I did not receive the service their website promised and as such I shouldn't be charged anything. Had I known the wifi was unusable I would never had made the reservation. No luck. I was rudely informed that I was lucky to get anything because normally they don't offer any sort of refund at all and that my cancelation is an immense burden on their business. I remain calm and respectful but as I persist she just gets angrier and more boisterous. I'm frustrated, but ultimately I agree to the partial refund because there's really nothing more I can do. I'm hoping there is something that can be done to compel the hotel to give me a full refund. To me this seems like a clear case of false advertisement. Their website advertises a service that their facility fails to deliver on. Is there a government agency to contact that could resolve this? I can't imagine hiring a lawyer would be economical as I'm only out around $80. Thanks for your time.

e3qt0su

e3psmlw

I think this may just be a case of having to pay your "stupid tax". That's not to say you're stupid, but you didn't do your due diligence before making a reservation and checking in. If your entire stay was contingent on having a superior wireless internet connection in room, then you ought to have called ahead and asked. If their website said they have wifi, but didn't specify, then that could mean exactly what you got: intermittent access from the lobby. They didn't lie, they *have* wifi. You said so yourself. It just wasn't what you needed. But the fact of the matter is this: you checked into that room, accessed that room and used that room. You may have left after 30 minutes, but a lot can be accomplished in a room in 30 minutes. I know, I used to work at a motel. If they dont have someone on staff to clean that room after you leave (and at 80 bucks a night this time of year, I'm willing to bet they don't), then they can't resell that room. They gave you what they advertised. Why should that place have to take that as a loss for that because you didn't plan ahead? I also think you seriously overestimated the quality of the amenities for such a paltry rate. But, that's something you couldn't have been expected to know. Now you know and can go forward with the knowledge.

I work at a hotel, and some of our rooms don’t have the best wifi signal, but it’s rarely been an issue for our guests. What we do have is ethernet ports, did you ask if that was an option? If I were working front desk that night, I would not have refunded the entire night, but I would discount the stay if the guest was polite about the issue. I would also offer for them to try one of our sister properties the following night, which are newer, and may have better wifi.

94y272

legaladvice_train

[WA] Hotel advertised wifi, couldn't even pick up signal from room. Charged me for 1 night when I cancelled 5 minutes after checking in. tl;dr: Hotel advertised wifi, wifi was literally unusable. Asked for refund and was still charged one night's stay. Seeking full refund. This is relatively small potatoes compared to a lot of what I see on this sub, but the way I was treated irked me enough to want some recourse. Anyway, I'm working out of town for a while and booked a hotel for a full month stay. Wifi is a must for me and their website stated it was available. After checking in and paying I try to connect in my room only to find that I can't even find their network listed in my wifi settings. Turns out they have one shitty router in their office which is 200+ feet from the rooms. Bringing my laptop right next to the office only gets me 2.5 mbps, which itself is barely usable. Seeing that there isn't any serviceable wifi and I'll be there for a month I ask for a refund, to which I'm told I'll be charged for one night. "We held the room for you and we're legally required to clean it so you have to pay." I informed her I did not receive the service their website promised and as such I shouldn't be charged anything. Had I known the wifi was unusable I would never had made the reservation. No luck. I was rudely informed that I was lucky to get anything because normally they don't offer any sort of refund at all and that my cancelation is an immense burden on their business. I remain calm and respectful but as I persist she just gets angrier and more boisterous. I'm frustrated, but ultimately I agree to the partial refund because there's really nothing more I can do. I'm hoping there is something that can be done to compel the hotel to give me a full refund. To me this seems like a clear case of false advertisement. Their website advertises a service that their facility fails to deliver on. Is there a government agency to contact that could resolve this? I can't imagine hiring a lawyer would be economical as I'm only out around $80. Thanks for your time.

e3shgqr

e3r7q55

If WiFi is mission critical for you, then the wise thing to do would be to get a hotspot. Because, here's the thing: wifi goes down. It happens. Also, I call BS on it only taking 5 minutes between check in and cancelling. Did you troubleshoot your WiFi connection? Did you reboot your device? Did you try finding the network from a different device? (I.e. phone)? Did you look for an Ethernet port? And, put yourself in the shoes of the person who comes in after you. Would you want a room that hadn't been cleaned, but it's ok because the previous person was in there under 30 minutes? I know I wouldn't - you can do a LOT in 30 minutes that would render the room in need of cleaning.

A lot of people saying, "well they had wifi, so they didn't lie" and that you should be charged at least a night for cancellation fee. But, what do they advertise? Does it say "in-room wifi"? Or just "wifi available" ? What is their advertised cancellation policy? (you were in the room for less than 30 minutes. IMO, yeah full refund) Also a lot of people saying you should have called to check the wifi strength or whatever, sure everyone starts calling for stuff like that, this sub will explode with "people keep calling.." " the phone won't stop... "

a64rup

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Hotel refusing to give refund after they triple charged me for a room what should I do? Edit in USA On thanksgiving I attempted to stay at a hotel in my family’s hometown but 30 mins in I noticed bugs coming out of the sink, trash and tub. I went to the front desk and requested a room change and they did so but the second room also had bugs. I go back to the hotel desk where they’re issuing a refund to a customer for giving him a dirty room. After he leaves she gives me a third room and another hotel attendant walks to the room with me to check it out. We get there and there’s bugs in the tub. She offers a refund so I accepts and she calls the hotel GM for approval. GM is upset because she just had to issue a refund and says I should call tomoro to speak to her about it. I debate about why I can’t just have my money if the attendant saw the bugs and they have no response. I decide to just say fuck it and drive home and when I stop for gas about an hour away from home and the pump stomps at 5ish bucks. I check my account and it’s empty. The hotel has charged me for every room change. I call them and they notice their mistake but still maintain that I must call in the morning. I call the next morning and they tell me the GM won’t be there til the next day. I keep calling when they tell me to and every time it’s the same answer. I call corporate and they contact the GM and he says he’s unaware of the issue and will call me back when he resolves it. I’ve gotten that same bs response from the hotel owner for two weeks now and corporate says their hands are tied since only the hotel can process refunds. They can clearly see the charges stemming from that night and the hotel has cameras that corroborate my story but they refuse to refund me. One of the charges has since been rejected by my bank but the other two are still present. It’s not that much ~$160ish but I’m that’s a lot when you’re unemployed. What should I do to resolve this?

ebrlq7s

ebrliec

Did you pay with a CC, or Visa-debit? If so, call your bank and request a chargeback. It might take a few days, but you’ll get your money back. I’ve done a few legit merchant disputes; and they’ve worked out in my favour.

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a64rup

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Hotel refusing to give refund after they triple charged me for a room what should I do? Edit in USA On thanksgiving I attempted to stay at a hotel in my family’s hometown but 30 mins in I noticed bugs coming out of the sink, trash and tub. I went to the front desk and requested a room change and they did so but the second room also had bugs. I go back to the hotel desk where they’re issuing a refund to a customer for giving him a dirty room. After he leaves she gives me a third room and another hotel attendant walks to the room with me to check it out. We get there and there’s bugs in the tub. She offers a refund so I accepts and she calls the hotel GM for approval. GM is upset because she just had to issue a refund and says I should call tomoro to speak to her about it. I debate about why I can’t just have my money if the attendant saw the bugs and they have no response. I decide to just say fuck it and drive home and when I stop for gas about an hour away from home and the pump stomps at 5ish bucks. I check my account and it’s empty. The hotel has charged me for every room change. I call them and they notice their mistake but still maintain that I must call in the morning. I call the next morning and they tell me the GM won’t be there til the next day. I keep calling when they tell me to and every time it’s the same answer. I call corporate and they contact the GM and he says he’s unaware of the issue and will call me back when he resolves it. I’ve gotten that same bs response from the hotel owner for two weeks now and corporate says their hands are tied since only the hotel can process refunds. They can clearly see the charges stemming from that night and the hotel has cameras that corroborate my story but they refuse to refund me. One of the charges has since been rejected by my bank but the other two are still present. It’s not that much ~$160ish but I’m that’s a lot when you’re unemployed. What should I do to resolve this?

ebrliec

ebrlyyg

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Call the hotel and give them the option of giving the refund which would be the easy option or tell them that you will have to file a dispute with your bank.

a64rup

legaladvice_train

Hotel refusing to give refund after they triple charged me for a room what should I do? Edit in USA On thanksgiving I attempted to stay at a hotel in my family’s hometown but 30 mins in I noticed bugs coming out of the sink, trash and tub. I went to the front desk and requested a room change and they did so but the second room also had bugs. I go back to the hotel desk where they’re issuing a refund to a customer for giving him a dirty room. After he leaves she gives me a third room and another hotel attendant walks to the room with me to check it out. We get there and there’s bugs in the tub. She offers a refund so I accepts and she calls the hotel GM for approval. GM is upset because she just had to issue a refund and says I should call tomoro to speak to her about it. I debate about why I can’t just have my money if the attendant saw the bugs and they have no response. I decide to just say fuck it and drive home and when I stop for gas about an hour away from home and the pump stomps at 5ish bucks. I check my account and it’s empty. The hotel has charged me for every room change. I call them and they notice their mistake but still maintain that I must call in the morning. I call the next morning and they tell me the GM won’t be there til the next day. I keep calling when they tell me to and every time it’s the same answer. I call corporate and they contact the GM and he says he’s unaware of the issue and will call me back when he resolves it. I’ve gotten that same bs response from the hotel owner for two weeks now and corporate says their hands are tied since only the hotel can process refunds. They can clearly see the charges stemming from that night and the hotel has cameras that corroborate my story but they refuse to refund me. One of the charges has since been rejected by my bank but the other two are still present. It’s not that much ~$160ish but I’m that’s a lot when you’re unemployed. What should I do to resolve this?

ebsqofw

ebs71ek

I am not a lawyer but I had a similar experience where I did not stay in the room and asked for a refund. In my case the hotel just kept stalling me everyday and advised me not to escalate it to my bank for a chargeback. Stupidly, I listened to them until it was too late to get a chargeback. Do yourself a favor and call your bank and explain the situation and get a chargeback now before it’s too late.

I've had this happen before. They were really slow, but they finally returned my money. They tried to outright deny that they were wrong. They told me it was normal to charge twice as a "hold", but they never told me about that before I booked and it was 3 weeks later and extra charges still not dropping off. On top of my double charge upfront to book the stupid room (which i didn't notice until after the fact), when I checked out they asked how I'd like to pay.... So I paid in cash. I was tired and blanked that I had already paid, and apparently they didn't record my DOUBLE prepayment. Called them for WEEKS. All I got was "manager" after "manager" telling me they are looking into it. Honestly I received the fastest response when I tagged them on Twitter complaining I had been triple charged with zero response from management, Got an email and a call an hour later from corporate apologizing and that this shouldn't have happened. They said even a hold shouldn't have stayed on more than a few days, but that they weren't sure why I had a hold to begin with (it's bc it was a double charge mistake, not a hold, but corporate clearly danced around that). Granted it still took them a few days to process the return on top of the back and forth time between me and management. It took a total of 3-4 weeks after the incident to get my money back. Sadly I don't think it will be a quick turnaround. Start moving up the chain of command until someone listens. Pretty likely the management will continue to downplay this so they don't look bad. Find their boss and complain and so on. Or try social media and make them deal with it now, tag ANY corporate account they have and anything with their name, someone is bound to see it.

a64rup

legaladvice_train

Hotel refusing to give refund after they triple charged me for a room what should I do? Edit in USA On thanksgiving I attempted to stay at a hotel in my family’s hometown but 30 mins in I noticed bugs coming out of the sink, trash and tub. I went to the front desk and requested a room change and they did so but the second room also had bugs. I go back to the hotel desk where they’re issuing a refund to a customer for giving him a dirty room. After he leaves she gives me a third room and another hotel attendant walks to the room with me to check it out. We get there and there’s bugs in the tub. She offers a refund so I accepts and she calls the hotel GM for approval. GM is upset because she just had to issue a refund and says I should call tomoro to speak to her about it. I debate about why I can’t just have my money if the attendant saw the bugs and they have no response. I decide to just say fuck it and drive home and when I stop for gas about an hour away from home and the pump stomps at 5ish bucks. I check my account and it’s empty. The hotel has charged me for every room change. I call them and they notice their mistake but still maintain that I must call in the morning. I call the next morning and they tell me the GM won’t be there til the next day. I keep calling when they tell me to and every time it’s the same answer. I call corporate and they contact the GM and he says he’s unaware of the issue and will call me back when he resolves it. I’ve gotten that same bs response from the hotel owner for two weeks now and corporate says their hands are tied since only the hotel can process refunds. They can clearly see the charges stemming from that night and the hotel has cameras that corroborate my story but they refuse to refund me. One of the charges has since been rejected by my bank but the other two are still present. It’s not that much ~$160ish but I’m that’s a lot when you’re unemployed. What should I do to resolve this?

ebs742m

ebsqofw

www.elliott.org has a list of contacts at all the major hotel chains. I would email corporate a polite concise description of the issue and ask for assistance

I am not a lawyer but I had a similar experience where I did not stay in the room and asked for a refund. In my case the hotel just kept stalling me everyday and advised me not to escalate it to my bank for a chargeback. Stupidly, I listened to them until it was too late to get a chargeback. Do yourself a favor and call your bank and explain the situation and get a chargeback now before it’s too late.

a64rup

legaladvice_train

Hotel refusing to give refund after they triple charged me for a room what should I do? Edit in USA On thanksgiving I attempted to stay at a hotel in my family’s hometown but 30 mins in I noticed bugs coming out of the sink, trash and tub. I went to the front desk and requested a room change and they did so but the second room also had bugs. I go back to the hotel desk where they’re issuing a refund to a customer for giving him a dirty room. After he leaves she gives me a third room and another hotel attendant walks to the room with me to check it out. We get there and there’s bugs in the tub. She offers a refund so I accepts and she calls the hotel GM for approval. GM is upset because she just had to issue a refund and says I should call tomoro to speak to her about it. I debate about why I can’t just have my money if the attendant saw the bugs and they have no response. I decide to just say fuck it and drive home and when I stop for gas about an hour away from home and the pump stomps at 5ish bucks. I check my account and it’s empty. The hotel has charged me for every room change. I call them and they notice their mistake but still maintain that I must call in the morning. I call the next morning and they tell me the GM won’t be there til the next day. I keep calling when they tell me to and every time it’s the same answer. I call corporate and they contact the GM and he says he’s unaware of the issue and will call me back when he resolves it. I’ve gotten that same bs response from the hotel owner for two weeks now and corporate says their hands are tied since only the hotel can process refunds. They can clearly see the charges stemming from that night and the hotel has cameras that corroborate my story but they refuse to refund me. One of the charges has since been rejected by my bank but the other two are still present. It’s not that much ~$160ish but I’m that’s a lot when you’re unemployed. What should I do to resolve this?

ebsqofw

ebrliec

I am not a lawyer but I had a similar experience where I did not stay in the room and asked for a refund. In my case the hotel just kept stalling me everyday and advised me not to escalate it to my bank for a chargeback. Stupidly, I listened to them until it was too late to get a chargeback. Do yourself a favor and call your bank and explain the situation and get a chargeback now before it’s too late.

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a64rup

legaladvice_train

Hotel refusing to give refund after they triple charged me for a room what should I do? Edit in USA On thanksgiving I attempted to stay at a hotel in my family’s hometown but 30 mins in I noticed bugs coming out of the sink, trash and tub. I went to the front desk and requested a room change and they did so but the second room also had bugs. I go back to the hotel desk where they’re issuing a refund to a customer for giving him a dirty room. After he leaves she gives me a third room and another hotel attendant walks to the room with me to check it out. We get there and there’s bugs in the tub. She offers a refund so I accepts and she calls the hotel GM for approval. GM is upset because she just had to issue a refund and says I should call tomoro to speak to her about it. I debate about why I can’t just have my money if the attendant saw the bugs and they have no response. I decide to just say fuck it and drive home and when I stop for gas about an hour away from home and the pump stomps at 5ish bucks. I check my account and it’s empty. The hotel has charged me for every room change. I call them and they notice their mistake but still maintain that I must call in the morning. I call the next morning and they tell me the GM won’t be there til the next day. I keep calling when they tell me to and every time it’s the same answer. I call corporate and they contact the GM and he says he’s unaware of the issue and will call me back when he resolves it. I’ve gotten that same bs response from the hotel owner for two weeks now and corporate says their hands are tied since only the hotel can process refunds. They can clearly see the charges stemming from that night and the hotel has cameras that corroborate my story but they refuse to refund me. One of the charges has since been rejected by my bank but the other two are still present. It’s not that much ~$160ish but I’m that’s a lot when you’re unemployed. What should I do to resolve this?

ebs71ek

ebs742m

I've had this happen before. They were really slow, but they finally returned my money. They tried to outright deny that they were wrong. They told me it was normal to charge twice as a "hold", but they never told me about that before I booked and it was 3 weeks later and extra charges still not dropping off. On top of my double charge upfront to book the stupid room (which i didn't notice until after the fact), when I checked out they asked how I'd like to pay.... So I paid in cash. I was tired and blanked that I had already paid, and apparently they didn't record my DOUBLE prepayment. Called them for WEEKS. All I got was "manager" after "manager" telling me they are looking into it. Honestly I received the fastest response when I tagged them on Twitter complaining I had been triple charged with zero response from management, Got an email and a call an hour later from corporate apologizing and that this shouldn't have happened. They said even a hold shouldn't have stayed on more than a few days, but that they weren't sure why I had a hold to begin with (it's bc it was a double charge mistake, not a hold, but corporate clearly danced around that). Granted it still took them a few days to process the return on top of the back and forth time between me and management. It took a total of 3-4 weeks after the incident to get my money back. Sadly I don't think it will be a quick turnaround. Start moving up the chain of command until someone listens. Pretty likely the management will continue to downplay this so they don't look bad. Find their boss and complain and so on. Or try social media and make them deal with it now, tag ANY corporate account they have and anything with their name, someone is bound to see it.

www.elliott.org has a list of contacts at all the major hotel chains. I would email corporate a polite concise description of the issue and ask for assistance

a64rup

legaladvice_train

Hotel refusing to give refund after they triple charged me for a room what should I do? Edit in USA On thanksgiving I attempted to stay at a hotel in my family’s hometown but 30 mins in I noticed bugs coming out of the sink, trash and tub. I went to the front desk and requested a room change and they did so but the second room also had bugs. I go back to the hotel desk where they’re issuing a refund to a customer for giving him a dirty room. After he leaves she gives me a third room and another hotel attendant walks to the room with me to check it out. We get there and there’s bugs in the tub. She offers a refund so I accepts and she calls the hotel GM for approval. GM is upset because she just had to issue a refund and says I should call tomoro to speak to her about it. I debate about why I can’t just have my money if the attendant saw the bugs and they have no response. I decide to just say fuck it and drive home and when I stop for gas about an hour away from home and the pump stomps at 5ish bucks. I check my account and it’s empty. The hotel has charged me for every room change. I call them and they notice their mistake but still maintain that I must call in the morning. I call the next morning and they tell me the GM won’t be there til the next day. I keep calling when they tell me to and every time it’s the same answer. I call corporate and they contact the GM and he says he’s unaware of the issue and will call me back when he resolves it. I’ve gotten that same bs response from the hotel owner for two weeks now and corporate says their hands are tied since only the hotel can process refunds. They can clearly see the charges stemming from that night and the hotel has cameras that corroborate my story but they refuse to refund me. One of the charges has since been rejected by my bank but the other two are still present. It’s not that much ~$160ish but I’m that’s a lot when you’re unemployed. What should I do to resolve this?

ebs71ek

ebrliec

I've had this happen before. They were really slow, but they finally returned my money. They tried to outright deny that they were wrong. They told me it was normal to charge twice as a "hold", but they never told me about that before I booked and it was 3 weeks later and extra charges still not dropping off. On top of my double charge upfront to book the stupid room (which i didn't notice until after the fact), when I checked out they asked how I'd like to pay.... So I paid in cash. I was tired and blanked that I had already paid, and apparently they didn't record my DOUBLE prepayment. Called them for WEEKS. All I got was "manager" after "manager" telling me they are looking into it. Honestly I received the fastest response when I tagged them on Twitter complaining I had been triple charged with zero response from management, Got an email and a call an hour later from corporate apologizing and that this shouldn't have happened. They said even a hold shouldn't have stayed on more than a few days, but that they weren't sure why I had a hold to begin with (it's bc it was a double charge mistake, not a hold, but corporate clearly danced around that). Granted it still took them a few days to process the return on top of the back and forth time between me and management. It took a total of 3-4 weeks after the incident to get my money back. Sadly I don't think it will be a quick turnaround. Start moving up the chain of command until someone listens. Pretty likely the management will continue to downplay this so they don't look bad. Find their boss and complain and so on. Or try social media and make them deal with it now, tag ANY corporate account they have and anything with their name, someone is bound to see it.

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a64rup

legaladvice_train

Hotel refusing to give refund after they triple charged me for a room what should I do? Edit in USA On thanksgiving I attempted to stay at a hotel in my family’s hometown but 30 mins in I noticed bugs coming out of the sink, trash and tub. I went to the front desk and requested a room change and they did so but the second room also had bugs. I go back to the hotel desk where they’re issuing a refund to a customer for giving him a dirty room. After he leaves she gives me a third room and another hotel attendant walks to the room with me to check it out. We get there and there’s bugs in the tub. She offers a refund so I accepts and she calls the hotel GM for approval. GM is upset because she just had to issue a refund and says I should call tomoro to speak to her about it. I debate about why I can’t just have my money if the attendant saw the bugs and they have no response. I decide to just say fuck it and drive home and when I stop for gas about an hour away from home and the pump stomps at 5ish bucks. I check my account and it’s empty. The hotel has charged me for every room change. I call them and they notice their mistake but still maintain that I must call in the morning. I call the next morning and they tell me the GM won’t be there til the next day. I keep calling when they tell me to and every time it’s the same answer. I call corporate and they contact the GM and he says he’s unaware of the issue and will call me back when he resolves it. I’ve gotten that same bs response from the hotel owner for two weeks now and corporate says their hands are tied since only the hotel can process refunds. They can clearly see the charges stemming from that night and the hotel has cameras that corroborate my story but they refuse to refund me. One of the charges has since been rejected by my bank but the other two are still present. It’s not that much ~$160ish but I’m that’s a lot when you’re unemployed. What should I do to resolve this?

ebs742m

ebrliec

www.elliott.org has a list of contacts at all the major hotel chains. I would email corporate a polite concise description of the issue and ask for assistance

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a64rup

legaladvice_train

Hotel refusing to give refund after they triple charged me for a room what should I do? Edit in USA On thanksgiving I attempted to stay at a hotel in my family’s hometown but 30 mins in I noticed bugs coming out of the sink, trash and tub. I went to the front desk and requested a room change and they did so but the second room also had bugs. I go back to the hotel desk where they’re issuing a refund to a customer for giving him a dirty room. After he leaves she gives me a third room and another hotel attendant walks to the room with me to check it out. We get there and there’s bugs in the tub. She offers a refund so I accepts and she calls the hotel GM for approval. GM is upset because she just had to issue a refund and says I should call tomoro to speak to her about it. I debate about why I can’t just have my money if the attendant saw the bugs and they have no response. I decide to just say fuck it and drive home and when I stop for gas about an hour away from home and the pump stomps at 5ish bucks. I check my account and it’s empty. The hotel has charged me for every room change. I call them and they notice their mistake but still maintain that I must call in the morning. I call the next morning and they tell me the GM won’t be there til the next day. I keep calling when they tell me to and every time it’s the same answer. I call corporate and they contact the GM and he says he’s unaware of the issue and will call me back when he resolves it. I’ve gotten that same bs response from the hotel owner for two weeks now and corporate says their hands are tied since only the hotel can process refunds. They can clearly see the charges stemming from that night and the hotel has cameras that corroborate my story but they refuse to refund me. One of the charges has since been rejected by my bank but the other two are still present. It’s not that much ~$160ish but I’m that’s a lot when you’re unemployed. What should I do to resolve this?

ebt4e61

ebt92mw

If you don't get anywhere, there is a well known consumer advocate. Elliott.org they have a wiki with executive contacts for most companies and will contact them for you as well if needed. Good luck!

You can also tell corporate and the location you can write reviews on Yelp and call the corporate office out on Twitter for the poor maintenance, bug infestation and customer service. On top of the chargeback of course

a64rup

legaladvice_train

Hotel refusing to give refund after they triple charged me for a room what should I do? Edit in USA On thanksgiving I attempted to stay at a hotel in my family’s hometown but 30 mins in I noticed bugs coming out of the sink, trash and tub. I went to the front desk and requested a room change and they did so but the second room also had bugs. I go back to the hotel desk where they’re issuing a refund to a customer for giving him a dirty room. After he leaves she gives me a third room and another hotel attendant walks to the room with me to check it out. We get there and there’s bugs in the tub. She offers a refund so I accepts and she calls the hotel GM for approval. GM is upset because she just had to issue a refund and says I should call tomoro to speak to her about it. I debate about why I can’t just have my money if the attendant saw the bugs and they have no response. I decide to just say fuck it and drive home and when I stop for gas about an hour away from home and the pump stomps at 5ish bucks. I check my account and it’s empty. The hotel has charged me for every room change. I call them and they notice their mistake but still maintain that I must call in the morning. I call the next morning and they tell me the GM won’t be there til the next day. I keep calling when they tell me to and every time it’s the same answer. I call corporate and they contact the GM and he says he’s unaware of the issue and will call me back when he resolves it. I’ve gotten that same bs response from the hotel owner for two weeks now and corporate says their hands are tied since only the hotel can process refunds. They can clearly see the charges stemming from that night and the hotel has cameras that corroborate my story but they refuse to refund me. One of the charges has since been rejected by my bank but the other two are still present. It’s not that much ~$160ish but I’m that’s a lot when you’re unemployed. What should I do to resolve this?

ebt92mw

ebrliec

You can also tell corporate and the location you can write reviews on Yelp and call the corporate office out on Twitter for the poor maintenance, bug infestation and customer service. On top of the chargeback of course

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a64rup

legaladvice_train

Hotel refusing to give refund after they triple charged me for a room what should I do? Edit in USA On thanksgiving I attempted to stay at a hotel in my family’s hometown but 30 mins in I noticed bugs coming out of the sink, trash and tub. I went to the front desk and requested a room change and they did so but the second room also had bugs. I go back to the hotel desk where they’re issuing a refund to a customer for giving him a dirty room. After he leaves she gives me a third room and another hotel attendant walks to the room with me to check it out. We get there and there’s bugs in the tub. She offers a refund so I accepts and she calls the hotel GM for approval. GM is upset because she just had to issue a refund and says I should call tomoro to speak to her about it. I debate about why I can’t just have my money if the attendant saw the bugs and they have no response. I decide to just say fuck it and drive home and when I stop for gas about an hour away from home and the pump stomps at 5ish bucks. I check my account and it’s empty. The hotel has charged me for every room change. I call them and they notice their mistake but still maintain that I must call in the morning. I call the next morning and they tell me the GM won’t be there til the next day. I keep calling when they tell me to and every time it’s the same answer. I call corporate and they contact the GM and he says he’s unaware of the issue and will call me back when he resolves it. I’ve gotten that same bs response from the hotel owner for two weeks now and corporate says their hands are tied since only the hotel can process refunds. They can clearly see the charges stemming from that night and the hotel has cameras that corroborate my story but they refuse to refund me. One of the charges has since been rejected by my bank but the other two are still present. It’s not that much ~$160ish but I’m that’s a lot when you’re unemployed. What should I do to resolve this?

ebt4e61

ebrliec

If you don't get anywhere, there is a well known consumer advocate. Elliott.org they have a wiki with executive contacts for most companies and will contact them for you as well if needed. Good luck!

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53k6xv

legaladvice_train

NYC hotel charged me for an additional full stay after my early checkout. First time posting on here and I don't travel often so I'm not sure if I screwed up bigtime and I have to pay or if I'm being taken advantage of and there's something I can do to fix this. Back in the beginning of summer I was in NYC for some time on behalf of my company. I made my hotel reservation through a third-party site using my corporate card. I received an email with my itinerary and it very clearly stated that I'd be staying for 21 nights, from 5/24-6/13 and even listed out the room rates for each night (to be paid to the hotel directly, not to the third-party site). Halfway through my stay I was told it was time to head home so with a couple days' notice I requested an early checkout and was told it would be no problem. So I checked out on 6/2 and received a receipt showing my departure date as June 2nd, along with the rates I paid each and every night. I then got on a plane and flew home. A couple weeks later while submitting expense reports I saw a charge from June 14 from the hotel, for over $3k. When I contacted the hotel they told me it was for my stay from June 6 through June 14. When I explained I wasn't even in the state I was given the number and email of a manager, but after reaching out to him and leaving messages I didn't get any response so I disputed the charge with the CC company. I sent them my itinerary from the 3rd-party site and the receipt showing my "departure date" of June 2nd. They eventually issued a chargeback and I thought that was the end of it. Now yesterday I got an email from the CC company saying that the merchant has provided documents showing the charge is valid and that the chargeback has been reversed. In the "supporting documents" the hotel has a receipt showing me checking out on the 2nd and not being charged for the following several nights, but then checking BACK IN on the 6th and staying through the 14th. They even charged me for valet parking on a few days even though when I was in NYC I never even got behind the wheel of a car. After looking at the documentation they sent as "proof" it looks like the hotel split my initial reservation into two for some reason, and even though I successfully checked out of the first one early they still charged me for the entirety of the second. I have no idea why they would split up the reservation but it wasn't my doing and it wasn't done with my consent. I've responded to the CC company saying I'd like to keep the dispute open but they're requesting a cancellation confirmation. I thought my receipt with the departure date as June 1st WAS the cancellation confirmation. I didn't even know I had a second reservation until after I'd been charged. Some additional information I've come across during the situation: Right in my itinerary email from the third-party site it says that no-shows will be responsible for one night's fee plus any applicable taxes and such. So even if I did make the two reservations, shouldn't I have only been on the hook for that instead of the entire stay? How was I charged for a full reservation when I wasn't even there to check in? So am I just going to be stuck paying over $3k for a hotel room when I wasn't even in the same state? Or is there something else I can do? Any advice would be appreciated.

d7u76g2

d7tyb0y

Sorry your stay in our fair city has left you with some problems. This is precisely the type of matter that should be handled by your company's general or outside counsel, if you have one. If not, consider making a complaint to the New York City Department of Consumer Affairs using this form. They may respond asking for more information. Good luck!

Depending on what operating system the hotel uses, most show whether or not a credit card was physically swiped at the time of check-in. If it's a separate reservation, it may show that no physical card was swiped on the second reservation. A lot of hotels use the Opera system which will indicate whether the CC was swiped at check-in or not. If it wasn't physically swiped, it may help sway the credit card company to believe you were not present.

53k6xv

legaladvice_train

NYC hotel charged me for an additional full stay after my early checkout. First time posting on here and I don't travel often so I'm not sure if I screwed up bigtime and I have to pay or if I'm being taken advantage of and there's something I can do to fix this. Back in the beginning of summer I was in NYC for some time on behalf of my company. I made my hotel reservation through a third-party site using my corporate card. I received an email with my itinerary and it very clearly stated that I'd be staying for 21 nights, from 5/24-6/13 and even listed out the room rates for each night (to be paid to the hotel directly, not to the third-party site). Halfway through my stay I was told it was time to head home so with a couple days' notice I requested an early checkout and was told it would be no problem. So I checked out on 6/2 and received a receipt showing my departure date as June 2nd, along with the rates I paid each and every night. I then got on a plane and flew home. A couple weeks later while submitting expense reports I saw a charge from June 14 from the hotel, for over $3k. When I contacted the hotel they told me it was for my stay from June 6 through June 14. When I explained I wasn't even in the state I was given the number and email of a manager, but after reaching out to him and leaving messages I didn't get any response so I disputed the charge with the CC company. I sent them my itinerary from the 3rd-party site and the receipt showing my "departure date" of June 2nd. They eventually issued a chargeback and I thought that was the end of it. Now yesterday I got an email from the CC company saying that the merchant has provided documents showing the charge is valid and that the chargeback has been reversed. In the "supporting documents" the hotel has a receipt showing me checking out on the 2nd and not being charged for the following several nights, but then checking BACK IN on the 6th and staying through the 14th. They even charged me for valet parking on a few days even though when I was in NYC I never even got behind the wheel of a car. After looking at the documentation they sent as "proof" it looks like the hotel split my initial reservation into two for some reason, and even though I successfully checked out of the first one early they still charged me for the entirety of the second. I have no idea why they would split up the reservation but it wasn't my doing and it wasn't done with my consent. I've responded to the CC company saying I'd like to keep the dispute open but they're requesting a cancellation confirmation. I thought my receipt with the departure date as June 1st WAS the cancellation confirmation. I didn't even know I had a second reservation until after I'd been charged. Some additional information I've come across during the situation: Right in my itinerary email from the third-party site it says that no-shows will be responsible for one night's fee plus any applicable taxes and such. So even if I did make the two reservations, shouldn't I have only been on the hook for that instead of the entire stay? How was I charged for a full reservation when I wasn't even there to check in? So am I just going to be stuck paying over $3k for a hotel room when I wasn't even in the same state? Or is there something else I can do? Any advice would be appreciated.

d7u76g2

d7tw64i

Sorry your stay in our fair city has left you with some problems. This is precisely the type of matter that should be handled by your company's general or outside counsel, if you have one. If not, consider making a complaint to the New York City Department of Consumer Affairs using this form. They may respond asking for more information. Good luck!

Does the room number appear on either bill? Ask them to show that the key card for that room was active from June 6 through June 14.

53k6xv

legaladvice_train

NYC hotel charged me for an additional full stay after my early checkout. First time posting on here and I don't travel often so I'm not sure if I screwed up bigtime and I have to pay or if I'm being taken advantage of and there's something I can do to fix this. Back in the beginning of summer I was in NYC for some time on behalf of my company. I made my hotel reservation through a third-party site using my corporate card. I received an email with my itinerary and it very clearly stated that I'd be staying for 21 nights, from 5/24-6/13 and even listed out the room rates for each night (to be paid to the hotel directly, not to the third-party site). Halfway through my stay I was told it was time to head home so with a couple days' notice I requested an early checkout and was told it would be no problem. So I checked out on 6/2 and received a receipt showing my departure date as June 2nd, along with the rates I paid each and every night. I then got on a plane and flew home. A couple weeks later while submitting expense reports I saw a charge from June 14 from the hotel, for over $3k. When I contacted the hotel they told me it was for my stay from June 6 through June 14. When I explained I wasn't even in the state I was given the number and email of a manager, but after reaching out to him and leaving messages I didn't get any response so I disputed the charge with the CC company. I sent them my itinerary from the 3rd-party site and the receipt showing my "departure date" of June 2nd. They eventually issued a chargeback and I thought that was the end of it. Now yesterday I got an email from the CC company saying that the merchant has provided documents showing the charge is valid and that the chargeback has been reversed. In the "supporting documents" the hotel has a receipt showing me checking out on the 2nd and not being charged for the following several nights, but then checking BACK IN on the 6th and staying through the 14th. They even charged me for valet parking on a few days even though when I was in NYC I never even got behind the wheel of a car. After looking at the documentation they sent as "proof" it looks like the hotel split my initial reservation into two for some reason, and even though I successfully checked out of the first one early they still charged me for the entirety of the second. I have no idea why they would split up the reservation but it wasn't my doing and it wasn't done with my consent. I've responded to the CC company saying I'd like to keep the dispute open but they're requesting a cancellation confirmation. I thought my receipt with the departure date as June 1st WAS the cancellation confirmation. I didn't even know I had a second reservation until after I'd been charged. Some additional information I've come across during the situation: Right in my itinerary email from the third-party site it says that no-shows will be responsible for one night's fee plus any applicable taxes and such. So even if I did make the two reservations, shouldn't I have only been on the hook for that instead of the entire stay? How was I charged for a full reservation when I wasn't even there to check in? So am I just going to be stuck paying over $3k for a hotel room when I wasn't even in the same state? Or is there something else I can do? Any advice would be appreciated.

d7u76g2

d7u25ye

Sorry your stay in our fair city has left you with some problems. This is precisely the type of matter that should be handled by your company's general or outside counsel, if you have one. If not, consider making a complaint to the New York City Department of Consumer Affairs using this form. They may respond asking for more information. Good luck!

Third party sites are almost always non refundable and cannot be canceled. When I worked in hotels we could not shorten a 3rd party stay without GM approval and the 3rd party agreeing as well. You should have clarified you that you expected a refund so they could attempt to help you at check out.

53k6xv

legaladvice_train

NYC hotel charged me for an additional full stay after my early checkout. First time posting on here and I don't travel often so I'm not sure if I screwed up bigtime and I have to pay or if I'm being taken advantage of and there's something I can do to fix this. Back in the beginning of summer I was in NYC for some time on behalf of my company. I made my hotel reservation through a third-party site using my corporate card. I received an email with my itinerary and it very clearly stated that I'd be staying for 21 nights, from 5/24-6/13 and even listed out the room rates for each night (to be paid to the hotel directly, not to the third-party site). Halfway through my stay I was told it was time to head home so with a couple days' notice I requested an early checkout and was told it would be no problem. So I checked out on 6/2 and received a receipt showing my departure date as June 2nd, along with the rates I paid each and every night. I then got on a plane and flew home. A couple weeks later while submitting expense reports I saw a charge from June 14 from the hotel, for over $3k. When I contacted the hotel they told me it was for my stay from June 6 through June 14. When I explained I wasn't even in the state I was given the number and email of a manager, but after reaching out to him and leaving messages I didn't get any response so I disputed the charge with the CC company. I sent them my itinerary from the 3rd-party site and the receipt showing my "departure date" of June 2nd. They eventually issued a chargeback and I thought that was the end of it. Now yesterday I got an email from the CC company saying that the merchant has provided documents showing the charge is valid and that the chargeback has been reversed. In the "supporting documents" the hotel has a receipt showing me checking out on the 2nd and not being charged for the following several nights, but then checking BACK IN on the 6th and staying through the 14th. They even charged me for valet parking on a few days even though when I was in NYC I never even got behind the wheel of a car. After looking at the documentation they sent as "proof" it looks like the hotel split my initial reservation into two for some reason, and even though I successfully checked out of the first one early they still charged me for the entirety of the second. I have no idea why they would split up the reservation but it wasn't my doing and it wasn't done with my consent. I've responded to the CC company saying I'd like to keep the dispute open but they're requesting a cancellation confirmation. I thought my receipt with the departure date as June 1st WAS the cancellation confirmation. I didn't even know I had a second reservation until after I'd been charged. Some additional information I've come across during the situation: Right in my itinerary email from the third-party site it says that no-shows will be responsible for one night's fee plus any applicable taxes and such. So even if I did make the two reservations, shouldn't I have only been on the hook for that instead of the entire stay? How was I charged for a full reservation when I wasn't even there to check in? So am I just going to be stuck paying over $3k for a hotel room when I wasn't even in the same state? Or is there something else I can do? Any advice would be appreciated.

d7tyb0y

d7tw64i

Depending on what operating system the hotel uses, most show whether or not a credit card was physically swiped at the time of check-in. If it's a separate reservation, it may show that no physical card was swiped on the second reservation. A lot of hotels use the Opera system which will indicate whether the CC was swiped at check-in or not. If it wasn't physically swiped, it may help sway the credit card company to believe you were not present.

Does the room number appear on either bill? Ask them to show that the key card for that room was active from June 6 through June 14.

5kbdsn

legaladvice_train

My Sister (38) Kicked her Daughter, My Niece(16) out of her house 2 months ago, and now Demanding her to come back tomorrow or police will be involved. My Sister made my Niece move out from her Home about 2 month ago(kicked her out) because niece was looking to get Emancipated(Never got Emancipated), and for causing trouble(Being a Teenager). My Parents, Nieces Grandparents, took her in and she is living with us. While she has been living with us, she has been on her best behavior. She is still going to her school which is 20 minutes away with us dropping her off and picking her up. Doing Homework and working as a piano tutor on and off, and she is still going to Her Church on sundays, we, me and my parents, dont go to her church but we do drop her off and pick her up. She also asks My Parents Permission to go out, which is not often. She hasn't had any problems here other than her mom bugging her to talk and move back home, Which Niece doesn't want to since she was abused by my sister and her stepfather. well now, my sister is demanding she move back to her home or she will call the police calling her a run away. So, my question is who would get in trouble if the police get involved? will it be my Niece, my Sister, or me and my parents? Location is Florida

dbmpztw

dbmw49c

~~I think I'm still listed as a run away some fifteen years later, police don't care unless another crime is involved.~~ The abuse would be a different thing, if that were true and the police were notified it is likely social services would get involved. No telling what would happen then, it would be up to their investigation and determination. edit: I stand corrected apparently it's a misdemeanor in Florida

You can strip out all of the good stuff and leave it as this: >Sister kicked 16yo out, wants her back Don't get in the way. I hosted troubled friends as a teen and if/when the parents wanted their kid back, that's what the law says has to happen. One friend ran away/became homeless to prevent it happening. The choices are simple: * She can run away (bad) * She can go back to mom (bad) * You can contact a lawyer first thing Monday am after stalling your sister and getting time to put a plan together so you can go to court ASAP (good)

5kbdsn

legaladvice_train

My Sister (38) Kicked her Daughter, My Niece(16) out of her house 2 months ago, and now Demanding her to come back tomorrow or police will be involved. My Sister made my Niece move out from her Home about 2 month ago(kicked her out) because niece was looking to get Emancipated(Never got Emancipated), and for causing trouble(Being a Teenager). My Parents, Nieces Grandparents, took her in and she is living with us. While she has been living with us, she has been on her best behavior. She is still going to her school which is 20 minutes away with us dropping her off and picking her up. Doing Homework and working as a piano tutor on and off, and she is still going to Her Church on sundays, we, me and my parents, dont go to her church but we do drop her off and pick her up. She also asks My Parents Permission to go out, which is not often. She hasn't had any problems here other than her mom bugging her to talk and move back home, Which Niece doesn't want to since she was abused by my sister and her stepfather. well now, my sister is demanding she move back to her home or she will call the police calling her a run away. So, my question is who would get in trouble if the police get involved? will it be my Niece, my Sister, or me and my parents? Location is Florida

dbmpztw

dbmxhja

~~I think I'm still listed as a run away some fifteen years later, police don't care unless another crime is involved.~~ The abuse would be a different thing, if that were true and the police were notified it is likely social services would get involved. No telling what would happen then, it would be up to their investigation and determination. edit: I stand corrected apparently it's a misdemeanor in Florida

The easy way would be to complete that emancipation process. FL makes that relatively easy compared to many other states. Then she can live wherever she wants. Fun fact: A 16 year old who gets emancipated in FL is no longer covered by statutory rape laws. It's an interesting thought that the state says that some 16 year olds are mature enough to sleep with whomever they want, but not others. Fla. Sta. 794.05(2).

626r2d

legaladvice_train

Broke up with my girlfriend of 2.5 years, she took all our money Throwaway here - this is in Canada, Newfoundland To give a bit of backstory, me and my girlfriend were together for 2.5 years and in September of this past year we won $120,000 from a lottery. How it happened was that her family members all were going in on this "chase the ace" draw that if won had a pot of around 725,000. Each family member included put in $20 towards it and I was going to put in $20 for us but the previous night we went out for drinks and I covered all of them so she gave her own $20 towards it. We made an agreement that if they won, we would each share our portion of the earnings. This was in September and we were living with my parents for 3 weeks at this point to help save money for when I graduate school to buy a house, and after we won the money we continued living together until I broke up with her in early March. When we won the money, it was $120,000 that was given to her in the form of a cashiers cheque and then we went to a financial advisor and then opened up a joint high interest savings account where $90,000 was deposited into it with both our names on the account, with the $30,000 left over being split between me and her and going into our personal bank accounts. When we broke up, she went to the bank and closed the account and took all the money herself and is refusing to give me anyway and says since it was "our money for our future together" (her words) and I broke up with her, she has rights to all the money legally. I consulted a lawyer and he says I have a very good chance to get my half back but I also wanted to hear from more people as well. Posted this on mobile so I'm sorry for any grammar issues.

dfk3yuk

dfk4dia

You need to sue for half of it, that's about all you can do.

We're not going to overrule your lawyer.

626r2d

legaladvice_train

Broke up with my girlfriend of 2.5 years, she took all our money Throwaway here - this is in Canada, Newfoundland To give a bit of backstory, me and my girlfriend were together for 2.5 years and in September of this past year we won $120,000 from a lottery. How it happened was that her family members all were going in on this "chase the ace" draw that if won had a pot of around 725,000. Each family member included put in $20 towards it and I was going to put in $20 for us but the previous night we went out for drinks and I covered all of them so she gave her own $20 towards it. We made an agreement that if they won, we would each share our portion of the earnings. This was in September and we were living with my parents for 3 weeks at this point to help save money for when I graduate school to buy a house, and after we won the money we continued living together until I broke up with her in early March. When we won the money, it was $120,000 that was given to her in the form of a cashiers cheque and then we went to a financial advisor and then opened up a joint high interest savings account where $90,000 was deposited into it with both our names on the account, with the $30,000 left over being split between me and her and going into our personal bank accounts. When we broke up, she went to the bank and closed the account and took all the money herself and is refusing to give me anyway and says since it was "our money for our future together" (her words) and I broke up with her, she has rights to all the money legally. I consulted a lawyer and he says I have a very good chance to get my half back but I also wanted to hear from more people as well. Posted this on mobile so I'm sorry for any grammar issues.

dfk4h4o

dfk3yuk

Like everyone else is going to tell you, listen to your lawyer.

You need to sue for half of it, that's about all you can do.

wi38ir

legaladvice_train

I let a friend borrow my car now they won't return it. I moved out of state and left a car at my mother house. I let my friend borrow it for what turned out to be a while and they were helping me with the note. Well they were supposed to drop it off now they're saying it's wrecked and that they're not going to drop it off. That they will abandon it somewhere. Like I said I live out of state. I don't know what to do. Could I call the police of the town where my friends at? Will they even do anything?

ij9q961

ija598b

You really should fly back and collect your vehicle in whatever form it’s in and assess the damages and proceed from there. Since you have no friends or family to assist, you physically need to be present.

What state is the vehicle registered in? Some states have what they call "Operation Without Consent" laws. Meaning that you have given your vehicle to a known subject with permission but now you are revoking that permission. It's different than trying to claim they stole it, because they didn't. They're just refusing to return it. Vehicle can still be entered into NCIC so that if your friend is caught driving it on a cops automatic plate reader they'll get the status notification and can pull a stop and recover the car for you. It can also help protect you if your friend does go out and intentionally wreck it. Now which police would have jurisdiction over this is where it gets tricky. Normally you would report to your local police and they would make the entry. Did you update your vehicle registration when you moved? Is your mother's name on the registration?

wi38ir

legaladvice_train

I let a friend borrow my car now they won't return it. I moved out of state and left a car at my mother house. I let my friend borrow it for what turned out to be a while and they were helping me with the note. Well they were supposed to drop it off now they're saying it's wrecked and that they're not going to drop it off. That they will abandon it somewhere. Like I said I live out of state. I don't know what to do. Could I call the police of the town where my friends at? Will they even do anything?

ij9ee54

ija598b

For clarification, do they have the title? You said they were helping you with the note. If so, it can become more complicated...

What state is the vehicle registered in? Some states have what they call "Operation Without Consent" laws. Meaning that you have given your vehicle to a known subject with permission but now you are revoking that permission. It's different than trying to claim they stole it, because they didn't. They're just refusing to return it. Vehicle can still be entered into NCIC so that if your friend is caught driving it on a cops automatic plate reader they'll get the status notification and can pull a stop and recover the car for you. It can also help protect you if your friend does go out and intentionally wreck it. Now which police would have jurisdiction over this is where it gets tricky. Normally you would report to your local police and they would make the entry. Did you update your vehicle registration when you moved? Is your mother's name on the registration?

wi38ir

legaladvice_train

I let a friend borrow my car now they won't return it. I moved out of state and left a car at my mother house. I let my friend borrow it for what turned out to be a while and they were helping me with the note. Well they were supposed to drop it off now they're saying it's wrecked and that they're not going to drop it off. That they will abandon it somewhere. Like I said I live out of state. I don't know what to do. Could I call the police of the town where my friends at? Will they even do anything?

ija4jwg

ija598b

It depends on the state. In Iowa we have “Operating a Motor Vehicle Without the Owner’s Permission” as a criminal charge.

What state is the vehicle registered in? Some states have what they call "Operation Without Consent" laws. Meaning that you have given your vehicle to a known subject with permission but now you are revoking that permission. It's different than trying to claim they stole it, because they didn't. They're just refusing to return it. Vehicle can still be entered into NCIC so that if your friend is caught driving it on a cops automatic plate reader they'll get the status notification and can pull a stop and recover the car for you. It can also help protect you if your friend does go out and intentionally wreck it. Now which police would have jurisdiction over this is where it gets tricky. Normally you would report to your local police and they would make the entry. Did you update your vehicle registration when you moved? Is your mother's name on the registration?

wi38ir

legaladvice_train

I let a friend borrow my car now they won't return it. I moved out of state and left a car at my mother house. I let my friend borrow it for what turned out to be a while and they were helping me with the note. Well they were supposed to drop it off now they're saying it's wrecked and that they're not going to drop it off. That they will abandon it somewhere. Like I said I live out of state. I don't know what to do. Could I call the police of the town where my friends at? Will they even do anything?

ij9ee54

ij9q961

For clarification, do they have the title? You said they were helping you with the note. If so, it can become more complicated...

You really should fly back and collect your vehicle in whatever form it’s in and assess the damages and proceed from there. Since you have no friends or family to assist, you physically need to be present.

wi38ir

legaladvice_train

I let a friend borrow my car now they won't return it. I moved out of state and left a car at my mother house. I let my friend borrow it for what turned out to be a while and they were helping me with the note. Well they were supposed to drop it off now they're saying it's wrecked and that they're not going to drop it off. That they will abandon it somewhere. Like I said I live out of state. I don't know what to do. Could I call the police of the town where my friends at? Will they even do anything?

ija4jwg

ij9ee54

It depends on the state. In Iowa we have “Operating a Motor Vehicle Without the Owner’s Permission” as a criminal charge.

For clarification, do they have the title? You said they were helping you with the note. If so, it can become more complicated...

9w8ufd

legaladvice_train

Landlord is threatening to evict if I don’t take my guns out of the apartment. What are my options? Hey, new to reddit but came here at a friends suggestion so forgive me if this is the wrong place. I currently live in an apartment in San Diego, CA. I have lived here for about 4 months with no problems. All of a sudden I get an email from my landlord telling me that a neighbor complained about me owning guns. I asked how she could even know and he said he couldn’t say. Now, I do have several guns, but I rarely take them out of the house. When I do they are in a hard, locked carrying case. I assume the neighbor saw me walking in or out with my rifle or shotgun case and it is pretty obvious (considering the CRPA and NRA logos on them) that there are guns in the bag. I told my landlord that my guns are in a secure safe and that they are all legal and registered. He is telling me now that I have 30 days to remove the guns from my apartment or be evicted. I checked my lease and there is nothing in there about having guns or not. What are my options here? What can I say to my landlord? This whole situation is infuriating and I want to handle it the right way. Thank you all for your help!

e9irpjb

e9ism4c

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Are you on a lease or month to month. Also being a gun owner isn't a protected class.

9w8ufd

legaladvice_train

Landlord is threatening to evict if I don’t take my guns out of the apartment. What are my options? Hey, new to reddit but came here at a friends suggestion so forgive me if this is the wrong place. I currently live in an apartment in San Diego, CA. I have lived here for about 4 months with no problems. All of a sudden I get an email from my landlord telling me that a neighbor complained about me owning guns. I asked how she could even know and he said he couldn’t say. Now, I do have several guns, but I rarely take them out of the house. When I do they are in a hard, locked carrying case. I assume the neighbor saw me walking in or out with my rifle or shotgun case and it is pretty obvious (considering the CRPA and NRA logos on them) that there are guns in the bag. I told my landlord that my guns are in a secure safe and that they are all legal and registered. He is telling me now that I have 30 days to remove the guns from my apartment or be evicted. I checked my lease and there is nothing in there about having guns or not. What are my options here? What can I say to my landlord? This whole situation is infuriating and I want to handle it the right way. Thank you all for your help!

e9irpjb

e9kjbc3

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Others have covered how to check your lease to determine if your landlord can evict you for this. If you really like the apartment and would prefer to renew the lease in 8 months (or stay there now if the lease does give the landlord the right to restrict your guns in some way), you may want to call local ranges and see if they have storage lockers. Or see what the smallest locker is that you can get at a regular storage facility. I'd also suggest getting cases that aren't prominently labeled with NRA or anything else that implies "gun inside". There's nothing illegal about them, but all they do is get people like your neighbor riled up, and make you a target for thieves. Gun collections are a high value target that professional thieves are willing to take time to stake out. They'll bring extra help and carry the entire safe out so they can take their time breaking into it elsewhere. Since you rent, I assume you don't have the option to secure the safe well enough to prevent this, since that would damage the property.

w1rlao

legaladvice_train

Airbnb host kicked off platform is threatening to sue me! Last month I reported an Airbnb host for sending me threatening messages and he has since been removed from the platform. Since then he has sent me a few disgruntled messages, the most recent of which threatened legal action for the loss of income related to being kicked off of both Airbnb and VRBO. Just a few moments ago, I received an email from a lawyer representing the ex-Airbnb host. It is largely a summary of events where the lawyer explains the situation, apologizes on behalf of his client for the inappropriate behavior (that he says were sent by his ex-wife, who was listed as a co-host), and makes a request that I contact Airbnb to get him reinstated to the platform, following which he will relinquish any claim he may have against me and resolve all outstanding issues between us. The message ends with "this offer will remain open for 21 days, after which time it will no longer be open for acceptance." It's pretty obvious to me at this point that I should contact a lawyer, but does he really have any ground to stand on here? I know I'm not being officially sued quite yet, but the threat is still there. I documented all of our interactions, including my correspondence with Airbnb that lead to him being removed from the platform, so I have everything in order if needed. I'm not entirely surprised he's gone this far, but I think I would be very surprised if this somehow went to court **and** I lost. Any thoughts? I've never been sued before, so advice and feedback is very welcome!

igm4uyd

igmrdmf

You got an email from a lawyer on a Sunday? I wonder if it’s a friend of the plaintiff. They usually charge extra for that. I would briefly call the law office and ask to verify if the lawyer and law firm are representing the client in question.

Ignore till served. I know it's hard to believe, but as a pastor, I've been threatened like this. People ask for money, don't get it, and threaten. I report people for beating their spouse, they threaten and send lots of paperwork. They get all sorts of people involved, but never lawyers. And they never actually serve. I've had to learn that when this happens, report it to my insurance and then we both ignore till served.

w1rlao

legaladvice_train

Airbnb host kicked off platform is threatening to sue me! Last month I reported an Airbnb host for sending me threatening messages and he has since been removed from the platform. Since then he has sent me a few disgruntled messages, the most recent of which threatened legal action for the loss of income related to being kicked off of both Airbnb and VRBO. Just a few moments ago, I received an email from a lawyer representing the ex-Airbnb host. It is largely a summary of events where the lawyer explains the situation, apologizes on behalf of his client for the inappropriate behavior (that he says were sent by his ex-wife, who was listed as a co-host), and makes a request that I contact Airbnb to get him reinstated to the platform, following which he will relinquish any claim he may have against me and resolve all outstanding issues between us. The message ends with "this offer will remain open for 21 days, after which time it will no longer be open for acceptance." It's pretty obvious to me at this point that I should contact a lawyer, but does he really have any ground to stand on here? I know I'm not being officially sued quite yet, but the threat is still there. I documented all of our interactions, including my correspondence with Airbnb that lead to him being removed from the platform, so I have everything in order if needed. I'm not entirely surprised he's gone this far, but I think I would be very surprised if this somehow went to court **and** I lost. Any thoughts? I've never been sued before, so advice and feedback is very welcome!

iglyo7g

igmrdmf

Are you sure that's communication from a real lawyer? Is everything you told AirBnB fully truthful?

Ignore till served. I know it's hard to believe, but as a pastor, I've been threatened like this. People ask for money, don't get it, and threaten. I report people for beating their spouse, they threaten and send lots of paperwork. They get all sorts of people involved, but never lawyers. And they never actually serve. I've had to learn that when this happens, report it to my insurance and then we both ignore till served.

w1rlao

legaladvice_train

Airbnb host kicked off platform is threatening to sue me! Last month I reported an Airbnb host for sending me threatening messages and he has since been removed from the platform. Since then he has sent me a few disgruntled messages, the most recent of which threatened legal action for the loss of income related to being kicked off of both Airbnb and VRBO. Just a few moments ago, I received an email from a lawyer representing the ex-Airbnb host. It is largely a summary of events where the lawyer explains the situation, apologizes on behalf of his client for the inappropriate behavior (that he says were sent by his ex-wife, who was listed as a co-host), and makes a request that I contact Airbnb to get him reinstated to the platform, following which he will relinquish any claim he may have against me and resolve all outstanding issues between us. The message ends with "this offer will remain open for 21 days, after which time it will no longer be open for acceptance." It's pretty obvious to me at this point that I should contact a lawyer, but does he really have any ground to stand on here? I know I'm not being officially sued quite yet, but the threat is still there. I documented all of our interactions, including my correspondence with Airbnb that lead to him being removed from the platform, so I have everything in order if needed. I'm not entirely surprised he's gone this far, but I think I would be very surprised if this somehow went to court **and** I lost. Any thoughts? I've never been sued before, so advice and feedback is very welcome!

igm0ggy

igmrdmf

The truth is an absolute defense in civil cases pertaining to libel and slander, and that is where this sounds like it going, so as long as you were 100% honest in your communications, you would have a very, VERY good chance at coming out on top of this were to go to court. I wouldn’t be wasting time and money on a lawyer unless you are actually served.

Ignore till served. I know it's hard to believe, but as a pastor, I've been threatened like this. People ask for money, don't get it, and threaten. I report people for beating their spouse, they threaten and send lots of paperwork. They get all sorts of people involved, but never lawyers. And they never actually serve. I've had to learn that when this happens, report it to my insurance and then we both ignore till served.

w1rlao

legaladvice_train

Airbnb host kicked off platform is threatening to sue me! Last month I reported an Airbnb host for sending me threatening messages and he has since been removed from the platform. Since then he has sent me a few disgruntled messages, the most recent of which threatened legal action for the loss of income related to being kicked off of both Airbnb and VRBO. Just a few moments ago, I received an email from a lawyer representing the ex-Airbnb host. It is largely a summary of events where the lawyer explains the situation, apologizes on behalf of his client for the inappropriate behavior (that he says were sent by his ex-wife, who was listed as a co-host), and makes a request that I contact Airbnb to get him reinstated to the platform, following which he will relinquish any claim he may have against me and resolve all outstanding issues between us. The message ends with "this offer will remain open for 21 days, after which time it will no longer be open for acceptance." It's pretty obvious to me at this point that I should contact a lawyer, but does he really have any ground to stand on here? I know I'm not being officially sued quite yet, but the threat is still there. I documented all of our interactions, including my correspondence with Airbnb that lead to him being removed from the platform, so I have everything in order if needed. I'm not entirely surprised he's gone this far, but I think I would be very surprised if this somehow went to court **and** I lost. Any thoughts? I've never been sued before, so advice and feedback is very welcome!

igm4uyd

iglyo7g

You got an email from a lawyer on a Sunday? I wonder if it’s a friend of the plaintiff. They usually charge extra for that. I would briefly call the law office and ask to verify if the lawyer and law firm are representing the client in question.

Are you sure that's communication from a real lawyer? Is everything you told AirBnB fully truthful?

w1rlao

legaladvice_train

Airbnb host kicked off platform is threatening to sue me! Last month I reported an Airbnb host for sending me threatening messages and he has since been removed from the platform. Since then he has sent me a few disgruntled messages, the most recent of which threatened legal action for the loss of income related to being kicked off of both Airbnb and VRBO. Just a few moments ago, I received an email from a lawyer representing the ex-Airbnb host. It is largely a summary of events where the lawyer explains the situation, apologizes on behalf of his client for the inappropriate behavior (that he says were sent by his ex-wife, who was listed as a co-host), and makes a request that I contact Airbnb to get him reinstated to the platform, following which he will relinquish any claim he may have against me and resolve all outstanding issues between us. The message ends with "this offer will remain open for 21 days, after which time it will no longer be open for acceptance." It's pretty obvious to me at this point that I should contact a lawyer, but does he really have any ground to stand on here? I know I'm not being officially sued quite yet, but the threat is still there. I documented all of our interactions, including my correspondence with Airbnb that lead to him being removed from the platform, so I have everything in order if needed. I'm not entirely surprised he's gone this far, but I think I would be very surprised if this somehow went to court **and** I lost. Any thoughts? I've never been sued before, so advice and feedback is very welcome!

igm0ggy

igm4uyd

The truth is an absolute defense in civil cases pertaining to libel and slander, and that is where this sounds like it going, so as long as you were 100% honest in your communications, you would have a very, VERY good chance at coming out on top of this were to go to court. I wouldn’t be wasting time and money on a lawyer unless you are actually served.

You got an email from a lawyer on a Sunday? I wonder if it’s a friend of the plaintiff. They usually charge extra for that. I would briefly call the law office and ask to verify if the lawyer and law firm are representing the client in question.

w1rlao

legaladvice_train

Airbnb host kicked off platform is threatening to sue me! Last month I reported an Airbnb host for sending me threatening messages and he has since been removed from the platform. Since then he has sent me a few disgruntled messages, the most recent of which threatened legal action for the loss of income related to being kicked off of both Airbnb and VRBO. Just a few moments ago, I received an email from a lawyer representing the ex-Airbnb host. It is largely a summary of events where the lawyer explains the situation, apologizes on behalf of his client for the inappropriate behavior (that he says were sent by his ex-wife, who was listed as a co-host), and makes a request that I contact Airbnb to get him reinstated to the platform, following which he will relinquish any claim he may have against me and resolve all outstanding issues between us. The message ends with "this offer will remain open for 21 days, after which time it will no longer be open for acceptance." It's pretty obvious to me at this point that I should contact a lawyer, but does he really have any ground to stand on here? I know I'm not being officially sued quite yet, but the threat is still there. I documented all of our interactions, including my correspondence with Airbnb that lead to him being removed from the platform, so I have everything in order if needed. I'm not entirely surprised he's gone this far, but I think I would be very surprised if this somehow went to court **and** I lost. Any thoughts? I've never been sued before, so advice and feedback is very welcome!

ignbz6d

ign3jva

Don't respond or say anything unless you're officially served. The "Anything you say can and will" cliche from TV cop shows is true. NOTHING you say in a response to a threat letter can help you, it can only hurt you.

Trying to intimidate you into fixing it to avoid a potential suit even though there isn’t one. Isn’t the lawyer apologizing and saying this actually happened proof that you didn’t make it up and not defamation?

w1rlao

legaladvice_train

Airbnb host kicked off platform is threatening to sue me! Last month I reported an Airbnb host for sending me threatening messages and he has since been removed from the platform. Since then he has sent me a few disgruntled messages, the most recent of which threatened legal action for the loss of income related to being kicked off of both Airbnb and VRBO. Just a few moments ago, I received an email from a lawyer representing the ex-Airbnb host. It is largely a summary of events where the lawyer explains the situation, apologizes on behalf of his client for the inappropriate behavior (that he says were sent by his ex-wife, who was listed as a co-host), and makes a request that I contact Airbnb to get him reinstated to the platform, following which he will relinquish any claim he may have against me and resolve all outstanding issues between us. The message ends with "this offer will remain open for 21 days, after which time it will no longer be open for acceptance." It's pretty obvious to me at this point that I should contact a lawyer, but does he really have any ground to stand on here? I know I'm not being officially sued quite yet, but the threat is still there. I documented all of our interactions, including my correspondence with Airbnb that lead to him being removed from the platform, so I have everything in order if needed. I'm not entirely surprised he's gone this far, but I think I would be very surprised if this somehow went to court **and** I lost. Any thoughts? I've never been sued before, so advice and feedback is very welcome!

ignbz6d

ign8m1e

Don't respond or say anything unless you're officially served. The "Anything you say can and will" cliche from TV cop shows is true. NOTHING you say in a response to a threat letter can help you, it can only hurt you.

I’d stay silent until served. At that point reevaluate the lawsuit’s merits with a lawyer. You can always plausibly deny you ever got an email from the lawyer.

w1rlao

legaladvice_train

Airbnb host kicked off platform is threatening to sue me! Last month I reported an Airbnb host for sending me threatening messages and he has since been removed from the platform. Since then he has sent me a few disgruntled messages, the most recent of which threatened legal action for the loss of income related to being kicked off of both Airbnb and VRBO. Just a few moments ago, I received an email from a lawyer representing the ex-Airbnb host. It is largely a summary of events where the lawyer explains the situation, apologizes on behalf of his client for the inappropriate behavior (that he says were sent by his ex-wife, who was listed as a co-host), and makes a request that I contact Airbnb to get him reinstated to the platform, following which he will relinquish any claim he may have against me and resolve all outstanding issues between us. The message ends with "this offer will remain open for 21 days, after which time it will no longer be open for acceptance." It's pretty obvious to me at this point that I should contact a lawyer, but does he really have any ground to stand on here? I know I'm not being officially sued quite yet, but the threat is still there. I documented all of our interactions, including my correspondence with Airbnb that lead to him being removed from the platform, so I have everything in order if needed. I'm not entirely surprised he's gone this far, but I think I would be very surprised if this somehow went to court **and** I lost. Any thoughts? I've never been sued before, so advice and feedback is very welcome!

ign3jva

ignuv8c

Trying to intimidate you into fixing it to avoid a potential suit even though there isn’t one. Isn’t the lawyer apologizing and saying this actually happened proof that you didn’t make it up and not defamation?

If it is not a summons, you have zero obligation to respond. And if your communication with AirBnB regarding this host was entirely truthful, he will have a very tough time prevailing in any sort of legal action. Remember this ratio... people that threaten to sue vs those that actually sue is 100:1

w1rlao

legaladvice_train

Airbnb host kicked off platform is threatening to sue me! Last month I reported an Airbnb host for sending me threatening messages and he has since been removed from the platform. Since then he has sent me a few disgruntled messages, the most recent of which threatened legal action for the loss of income related to being kicked off of both Airbnb and VRBO. Just a few moments ago, I received an email from a lawyer representing the ex-Airbnb host. It is largely a summary of events where the lawyer explains the situation, apologizes on behalf of his client for the inappropriate behavior (that he says were sent by his ex-wife, who was listed as a co-host), and makes a request that I contact Airbnb to get him reinstated to the platform, following which he will relinquish any claim he may have against me and resolve all outstanding issues between us. The message ends with "this offer will remain open for 21 days, after which time it will no longer be open for acceptance." It's pretty obvious to me at this point that I should contact a lawyer, but does he really have any ground to stand on here? I know I'm not being officially sued quite yet, but the threat is still there. I documented all of our interactions, including my correspondence with Airbnb that lead to him being removed from the platform, so I have everything in order if needed. I'm not entirely surprised he's gone this far, but I think I would be very surprised if this somehow went to court **and** I lost. Any thoughts? I've never been sued before, so advice and feedback is very welcome!

ignuv8c

ignq53c

If it is not a summons, you have zero obligation to respond. And if your communication with AirBnB regarding this host was entirely truthful, he will have a very tough time prevailing in any sort of legal action. Remember this ratio... people that threaten to sue vs those that actually sue is 100:1

If he has proof it was his wife and not him who sent the emails, he needs to present that to the platform himself and ask for reconsideration. Sounds like the only information you have that it was the wife is his email, and not any first-hand knoweldge? This is a desperate attempt to get you to help, but you should ignore the letter. I agree with others that you don't need to hire an attorney or respond unless you're served.

w1rlao

legaladvice_train

Airbnb host kicked off platform is threatening to sue me! Last month I reported an Airbnb host for sending me threatening messages and he has since been removed from the platform. Since then he has sent me a few disgruntled messages, the most recent of which threatened legal action for the loss of income related to being kicked off of both Airbnb and VRBO. Just a few moments ago, I received an email from a lawyer representing the ex-Airbnb host. It is largely a summary of events where the lawyer explains the situation, apologizes on behalf of his client for the inappropriate behavior (that he says were sent by his ex-wife, who was listed as a co-host), and makes a request that I contact Airbnb to get him reinstated to the platform, following which he will relinquish any claim he may have against me and resolve all outstanding issues between us. The message ends with "this offer will remain open for 21 days, after which time it will no longer be open for acceptance." It's pretty obvious to me at this point that I should contact a lawyer, but does he really have any ground to stand on here? I know I'm not being officially sued quite yet, but the threat is still there. I documented all of our interactions, including my correspondence with Airbnb that lead to him being removed from the platform, so I have everything in order if needed. I'm not entirely surprised he's gone this far, but I think I would be very surprised if this somehow went to court **and** I lost. Any thoughts? I've never been sued before, so advice and feedback is very welcome!

ign8m1e

ignuv8c

I’d stay silent until served. At that point reevaluate the lawsuit’s merits with a lawyer. You can always plausibly deny you ever got an email from the lawyer.

If it is not a summons, you have zero obligation to respond. And if your communication with AirBnB regarding this host was entirely truthful, he will have a very tough time prevailing in any sort of legal action. Remember this ratio... people that threaten to sue vs those that actually sue is 100:1

w1rlao

legaladvice_train

Airbnb host kicked off platform is threatening to sue me! Last month I reported an Airbnb host for sending me threatening messages and he has since been removed from the platform. Since then he has sent me a few disgruntled messages, the most recent of which threatened legal action for the loss of income related to being kicked off of both Airbnb and VRBO. Just a few moments ago, I received an email from a lawyer representing the ex-Airbnb host. It is largely a summary of events where the lawyer explains the situation, apologizes on behalf of his client for the inappropriate behavior (that he says were sent by his ex-wife, who was listed as a co-host), and makes a request that I contact Airbnb to get him reinstated to the platform, following which he will relinquish any claim he may have against me and resolve all outstanding issues between us. The message ends with "this offer will remain open for 21 days, after which time it will no longer be open for acceptance." It's pretty obvious to me at this point that I should contact a lawyer, but does he really have any ground to stand on here? I know I'm not being officially sued quite yet, but the threat is still there. I documented all of our interactions, including my correspondence with Airbnb that lead to him being removed from the platform, so I have everything in order if needed. I'm not entirely surprised he's gone this far, but I think I would be very surprised if this somehow went to court **and** I lost. Any thoughts? I've never been sued before, so advice and feedback is very welcome!

ignuv8c

ignj7tl

If it is not a summons, you have zero obligation to respond. And if your communication with AirBnB regarding this host was entirely truthful, he will have a very tough time prevailing in any sort of legal action. Remember this ratio... people that threaten to sue vs those that actually sue is 100:1

Look up the lawyer to make sure it's a real person at that firm. Then I think it's totally reasonable to ask that lawyer specifically what "claim" this person supposedly has against you. And tell them you want it in writing, explaining the legal theory under which they believe you have liability so that you can seek independent legal advice. I highly suspect a real lawyer will not put that in writing because they know there is no non-frivolous claim here.

w1rlao

legaladvice_train

Airbnb host kicked off platform is threatening to sue me! Last month I reported an Airbnb host for sending me threatening messages and he has since been removed from the platform. Since then he has sent me a few disgruntled messages, the most recent of which threatened legal action for the loss of income related to being kicked off of both Airbnb and VRBO. Just a few moments ago, I received an email from a lawyer representing the ex-Airbnb host. It is largely a summary of events where the lawyer explains the situation, apologizes on behalf of his client for the inappropriate behavior (that he says were sent by his ex-wife, who was listed as a co-host), and makes a request that I contact Airbnb to get him reinstated to the platform, following which he will relinquish any claim he may have against me and resolve all outstanding issues between us. The message ends with "this offer will remain open for 21 days, after which time it will no longer be open for acceptance." It's pretty obvious to me at this point that I should contact a lawyer, but does he really have any ground to stand on here? I know I'm not being officially sued quite yet, but the threat is still there. I documented all of our interactions, including my correspondence with Airbnb that lead to him being removed from the platform, so I have everything in order if needed. I'm not entirely surprised he's gone this far, but I think I would be very surprised if this somehow went to court **and** I lost. Any thoughts? I've never been sued before, so advice and feedback is very welcome!

igo6qjl

ignq53c

The attorney “apologizes on behalf of his client”acknowledges wrongdoing. Then how can the client bring a suit?

If he has proof it was his wife and not him who sent the emails, he needs to present that to the platform himself and ask for reconsideration. Sounds like the only information you have that it was the wife is his email, and not any first-hand knoweldge? This is a desperate attempt to get you to help, but you should ignore the letter. I agree with others that you don't need to hire an attorney or respond unless you're served.

w1rlao

legaladvice_train

Airbnb host kicked off platform is threatening to sue me! Last month I reported an Airbnb host for sending me threatening messages and he has since been removed from the platform. Since then he has sent me a few disgruntled messages, the most recent of which threatened legal action for the loss of income related to being kicked off of both Airbnb and VRBO. Just a few moments ago, I received an email from a lawyer representing the ex-Airbnb host. It is largely a summary of events where the lawyer explains the situation, apologizes on behalf of his client for the inappropriate behavior (that he says were sent by his ex-wife, who was listed as a co-host), and makes a request that I contact Airbnb to get him reinstated to the platform, following which he will relinquish any claim he may have against me and resolve all outstanding issues between us. The message ends with "this offer will remain open for 21 days, after which time it will no longer be open for acceptance." It's pretty obvious to me at this point that I should contact a lawyer, but does he really have any ground to stand on here? I know I'm not being officially sued quite yet, but the threat is still there. I documented all of our interactions, including my correspondence with Airbnb that lead to him being removed from the platform, so I have everything in order if needed. I'm not entirely surprised he's gone this far, but I think I would be very surprised if this somehow went to court **and** I lost. Any thoughts? I've never been sued before, so advice and feedback is very welcome!

ign8m1e

igo6qjl

I’d stay silent until served. At that point reevaluate the lawsuit’s merits with a lawyer. You can always plausibly deny you ever got an email from the lawyer.

The attorney “apologizes on behalf of his client”acknowledges wrongdoing. Then how can the client bring a suit?

w1rlao

legaladvice_train

Airbnb host kicked off platform is threatening to sue me! Last month I reported an Airbnb host for sending me threatening messages and he has since been removed from the platform. Since then he has sent me a few disgruntled messages, the most recent of which threatened legal action for the loss of income related to being kicked off of both Airbnb and VRBO. Just a few moments ago, I received an email from a lawyer representing the ex-Airbnb host. It is largely a summary of events where the lawyer explains the situation, apologizes on behalf of his client for the inappropriate behavior (that he says were sent by his ex-wife, who was listed as a co-host), and makes a request that I contact Airbnb to get him reinstated to the platform, following which he will relinquish any claim he may have against me and resolve all outstanding issues between us. The message ends with "this offer will remain open for 21 days, after which time it will no longer be open for acceptance." It's pretty obvious to me at this point that I should contact a lawyer, but does he really have any ground to stand on here? I know I'm not being officially sued quite yet, but the threat is still there. I documented all of our interactions, including my correspondence with Airbnb that lead to him being removed from the platform, so I have everything in order if needed. I'm not entirely surprised he's gone this far, but I think I would be very surprised if this somehow went to court **and** I lost. Any thoughts? I've never been sued before, so advice and feedback is very welcome!

igo6qjl

igo4k4i

The attorney “apologizes on behalf of his client”acknowledges wrongdoing. Then how can the client bring a suit?

Send back something along these lines: https://loweringthebar.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/browns_letter_1974.pdf

w1rlao

legaladvice_train

Airbnb host kicked off platform is threatening to sue me! Last month I reported an Airbnb host for sending me threatening messages and he has since been removed from the platform. Since then he has sent me a few disgruntled messages, the most recent of which threatened legal action for the loss of income related to being kicked off of both Airbnb and VRBO. Just a few moments ago, I received an email from a lawyer representing the ex-Airbnb host. It is largely a summary of events where the lawyer explains the situation, apologizes on behalf of his client for the inappropriate behavior (that he says were sent by his ex-wife, who was listed as a co-host), and makes a request that I contact Airbnb to get him reinstated to the platform, following which he will relinquish any claim he may have against me and resolve all outstanding issues between us. The message ends with "this offer will remain open for 21 days, after which time it will no longer be open for acceptance." It's pretty obvious to me at this point that I should contact a lawyer, but does he really have any ground to stand on here? I know I'm not being officially sued quite yet, but the threat is still there. I documented all of our interactions, including my correspondence with Airbnb that lead to him being removed from the platform, so I have everything in order if needed. I'm not entirely surprised he's gone this far, but I think I would be very surprised if this somehow went to court **and** I lost. Any thoughts? I've never been sued before, so advice and feedback is very welcome!

igo6qjl

ignj7tl

The attorney “apologizes on behalf of his client”acknowledges wrongdoing. Then how can the client bring a suit?

Look up the lawyer to make sure it's a real person at that firm. Then I think it's totally reasonable to ask that lawyer specifically what "claim" this person supposedly has against you. And tell them you want it in writing, explaining the legal theory under which they believe you have liability so that you can seek independent legal advice. I highly suspect a real lawyer will not put that in writing because they know there is no non-frivolous claim here.

w1rlao

legaladvice_train

Airbnb host kicked off platform is threatening to sue me! Last month I reported an Airbnb host for sending me threatening messages and he has since been removed from the platform. Since then he has sent me a few disgruntled messages, the most recent of which threatened legal action for the loss of income related to being kicked off of both Airbnb and VRBO. Just a few moments ago, I received an email from a lawyer representing the ex-Airbnb host. It is largely a summary of events where the lawyer explains the situation, apologizes on behalf of his client for the inappropriate behavior (that he says were sent by his ex-wife, who was listed as a co-host), and makes a request that I contact Airbnb to get him reinstated to the platform, following which he will relinquish any claim he may have against me and resolve all outstanding issues between us. The message ends with "this offer will remain open for 21 days, after which time it will no longer be open for acceptance." It's pretty obvious to me at this point that I should contact a lawyer, but does he really have any ground to stand on here? I know I'm not being officially sued quite yet, but the threat is still there. I documented all of our interactions, including my correspondence with Airbnb that lead to him being removed from the platform, so I have everything in order if needed. I'm not entirely surprised he's gone this far, but I think I would be very surprised if this somehow went to court **and** I lost. Any thoughts? I've never been sued before, so advice and feedback is very welcome!

ignzej9

igo6qjl

Just FYI - In SOME states, the liability side of your renter's/homeowner's and/or umbrella policy will defend/indemnify libel or slander claims. Review any applicable policies. If you believe you may have coverage, reach out to place them on notice. Obligatory CYA - Please bear in mind that I am not admitted to practice in your state. This answer is being provided for informational purposes and is not “legal advice”. You should speak to a lawyer admitted in your state.

The attorney “apologizes on behalf of his client”acknowledges wrongdoing. Then how can the client bring a suit?

w1rlao

legaladvice_train

Airbnb host kicked off platform is threatening to sue me! Last month I reported an Airbnb host for sending me threatening messages and he has since been removed from the platform. Since then he has sent me a few disgruntled messages, the most recent of which threatened legal action for the loss of income related to being kicked off of both Airbnb and VRBO. Just a few moments ago, I received an email from a lawyer representing the ex-Airbnb host. It is largely a summary of events where the lawyer explains the situation, apologizes on behalf of his client for the inappropriate behavior (that he says were sent by his ex-wife, who was listed as a co-host), and makes a request that I contact Airbnb to get him reinstated to the platform, following which he will relinquish any claim he may have against me and resolve all outstanding issues between us. The message ends with "this offer will remain open for 21 days, after which time it will no longer be open for acceptance." It's pretty obvious to me at this point that I should contact a lawyer, but does he really have any ground to stand on here? I know I'm not being officially sued quite yet, but the threat is still there. I documented all of our interactions, including my correspondence with Airbnb that lead to him being removed from the platform, so I have everything in order if needed. I'm not entirely surprised he's gone this far, but I think I would be very surprised if this somehow went to court **and** I lost. Any thoughts? I've never been sued before, so advice and feedback is very welcome!

ignq53c

ignj7tl

If he has proof it was his wife and not him who sent the emails, he needs to present that to the platform himself and ask for reconsideration. Sounds like the only information you have that it was the wife is his email, and not any first-hand knoweldge? This is a desperate attempt to get you to help, but you should ignore the letter. I agree with others that you don't need to hire an attorney or respond unless you're served.

Look up the lawyer to make sure it's a real person at that firm. Then I think it's totally reasonable to ask that lawyer specifically what "claim" this person supposedly has against you. And tell them you want it in writing, explaining the legal theory under which they believe you have liability so that you can seek independent legal advice. I highly suspect a real lawyer will not put that in writing because they know there is no non-frivolous claim here.

w1rlao

legaladvice_train

Airbnb host kicked off platform is threatening to sue me! Last month I reported an Airbnb host for sending me threatening messages and he has since been removed from the platform. Since then he has sent me a few disgruntled messages, the most recent of which threatened legal action for the loss of income related to being kicked off of both Airbnb and VRBO. Just a few moments ago, I received an email from a lawyer representing the ex-Airbnb host. It is largely a summary of events where the lawyer explains the situation, apologizes on behalf of his client for the inappropriate behavior (that he says were sent by his ex-wife, who was listed as a co-host), and makes a request that I contact Airbnb to get him reinstated to the platform, following which he will relinquish any claim he may have against me and resolve all outstanding issues between us. The message ends with "this offer will remain open for 21 days, after which time it will no longer be open for acceptance." It's pretty obvious to me at this point that I should contact a lawyer, but does he really have any ground to stand on here? I know I'm not being officially sued quite yet, but the threat is still there. I documented all of our interactions, including my correspondence with Airbnb that lead to him being removed from the platform, so I have everything in order if needed. I'm not entirely surprised he's gone this far, but I think I would be very surprised if this somehow went to court **and** I lost. Any thoughts? I've never been sued before, so advice and feedback is very welcome!

ignj7tl

igo4k4i

Look up the lawyer to make sure it's a real person at that firm. Then I think it's totally reasonable to ask that lawyer specifically what "claim" this person supposedly has against you. And tell them you want it in writing, explaining the legal theory under which they believe you have liability so that you can seek independent legal advice. I highly suspect a real lawyer will not put that in writing because they know there is no non-frivolous claim here.

Send back something along these lines: https://loweringthebar.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/browns_letter_1974.pdf

w1rlao

legaladvice_train

Airbnb host kicked off platform is threatening to sue me! Last month I reported an Airbnb host for sending me threatening messages and he has since been removed from the platform. Since then he has sent me a few disgruntled messages, the most recent of which threatened legal action for the loss of income related to being kicked off of both Airbnb and VRBO. Just a few moments ago, I received an email from a lawyer representing the ex-Airbnb host. It is largely a summary of events where the lawyer explains the situation, apologizes on behalf of his client for the inappropriate behavior (that he says were sent by his ex-wife, who was listed as a co-host), and makes a request that I contact Airbnb to get him reinstated to the platform, following which he will relinquish any claim he may have against me and resolve all outstanding issues between us. The message ends with "this offer will remain open for 21 days, after which time it will no longer be open for acceptance." It's pretty obvious to me at this point that I should contact a lawyer, but does he really have any ground to stand on here? I know I'm not being officially sued quite yet, but the threat is still there. I documented all of our interactions, including my correspondence with Airbnb that lead to him being removed from the platform, so I have everything in order if needed. I'm not entirely surprised he's gone this far, but I think I would be very surprised if this somehow went to court **and** I lost. Any thoughts? I've never been sued before, so advice and feedback is very welcome!

igo4k4i

ignzej9

Send back something along these lines: https://loweringthebar.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/browns_letter_1974.pdf

Just FYI - In SOME states, the liability side of your renter's/homeowner's and/or umbrella policy will defend/indemnify libel or slander claims. Review any applicable policies. If you believe you may have coverage, reach out to place them on notice. Obligatory CYA - Please bear in mind that I am not admitted to practice in your state. This answer is being provided for informational purposes and is not “legal advice”. You should speak to a lawyer admitted in your state.

80ek1e

legaladvice_train

[CO, USA] My roommate has adopted a dog, violating our lease. The landlord is threatening to evict everyone. My roommate has recently adopted a dog as an "emotional support animal" (ESA). The problem is, he adopted it, found out he couldn't keep it, and then had it made into an ESA. The landlord, having a paper trail of this, spoke to an attorney who said this will not hold up and that the animal remains a violation of our lease. My two questions are these: 1) The landlord has stated she is required to evict everyone if she evicts one of us. Is this true? 2) What actions do I have against my roommate to force him out or to get rid of the dog prior to all of us being evicted?

duvhezf

duvj1p3

Isn't the point of a joint and several clause in a lease to give the owner the option to evict as a group OR individually? I get that people should be careful about who they co-sign ANYTHING with, but things happen. When I had a rental house for a short period I had the threaten eviction against one of 3 tenants who was basically abusing the property. The other 2 were dream tenants... I never took it to court, as the bad one left of his own accord, but if I had evicted him, why should I be forced to evict the other 2? If I served a notice to quit, and 2 of the 3 left, why on earth would a court force me to ruin their rental history with an eviction just to get rid of the one who didn't leave? I get that monies owed as rent is a joint obligation, and the tenants would have a case against the non-paying roommate, but what about situations like this where one party decides unilaterally to breach the lease against the wishes of the other parties? AFAIK from reading here the lessees can't evict a roommate, it has to be from the lessor, right?

You could negotiate with the landlord to evict the roommate and redo the lease with the remaining people

pwy1ky

legaladvice_train

My partner and I just got married and my aunt-in-law is suing us and the family because she was not invited to our wedding There was an initial lawsuit PRIOR to the wedding that claimed that my mother in law was not allowed to threaten to not attend if her sister were to be invited (I am actually shocked that this was a real document written up by a real lawyer. I guess people will do anything if they are paid adequately). And, turns out, the aunt was not invited to the wedding. This was entirely our choice because WHY in the WORLD would we invite her. However, I guess we were legally obligated to, because now we have violated this legal order and now likely have to appear in court. I didn't realize that you could sue to be invited to a party? There are such substantial, long term disputes within my partner's family that when their aunt was not invited to our wedding she decided to literally sue us. This is real. This is extremely big "I am rich and bored" behavior. This is some of the most flagrantly, ruthlessly, inappropriately un-family-like adult behavior I've seen in my life. So my question is....what can we do? Can we somehow contact a lawyer and get this shit handled/dropped/something without having to pay a lot of money? She is literally trying to punish us financially. It's like a joke. I don't get it.

hel3iu0

hel2ig9

That’s not how this works OP. Someone (maybe a lawyer) typed up a letter. That’s probably all that happened. Unless you went to court and a judge (only a judge) made a ruling/judgement you do not need to do anything. Anyone can TRY to sue you for any reasons anytime, but if they actually file a lawsuit in court is a totally different thing. Them winning a lawsuit is also totallly different thing.

>I am actually shocked that this was a real document written up by a real lawyer. So a lawyer wrote you a letter saying you had to invite said aunt? That doesn't mean anything. They could write you and tell you you had to walk 5.000 miles but that doesn't mean you have to actually do that... The whole story is a bit confusing but I'm guessing there was no lawsuit and no court order to invite this person so you didn't have to and any letters from this lawyer (if they're real) should be ignored. You only need to respond/act if any actual court documents show up, but I doubt they will. If you want you can look up the information for the lawyer online and contact them to see if they actually send these letters. Use the contact information you find online, not on the letter. There's a chance they sent a letter with a fake letterhead. > This is real. This is extremely big "I am rich and bored" behavior. Even rich people can't use the courts to force an invite to a wedding... I would be interested to see a law that would force anyone to invite an unwanted guest to a private event.

pwy1ky

legaladvice_train

My partner and I just got married and my aunt-in-law is suing us and the family because she was not invited to our wedding There was an initial lawsuit PRIOR to the wedding that claimed that my mother in law was not allowed to threaten to not attend if her sister were to be invited (I am actually shocked that this was a real document written up by a real lawyer. I guess people will do anything if they are paid adequately). And, turns out, the aunt was not invited to the wedding. This was entirely our choice because WHY in the WORLD would we invite her. However, I guess we were legally obligated to, because now we have violated this legal order and now likely have to appear in court. I didn't realize that you could sue to be invited to a party? There are such substantial, long term disputes within my partner's family that when their aunt was not invited to our wedding she decided to literally sue us. This is real. This is extremely big "I am rich and bored" behavior. This is some of the most flagrantly, ruthlessly, inappropriately un-family-like adult behavior I've seen in my life. So my question is....what can we do? Can we somehow contact a lawyer and get this shit handled/dropped/something without having to pay a lot of money? She is literally trying to punish us financially. It's like a joke. I don't get it.

hel1q5h

hel3iu0

Is it small claims court and you got a summons to appear for mediation or something? They sometimes schedule a mediation upon complaint filing. That's the only sense I can make out of this. It does not sound like they have a valid cause of action. You may be able to get monetary sanctions against them for filing a frivolous lawsuit. A motion to dismiss would be granted in a heartbeat.

That’s not how this works OP. Someone (maybe a lawyer) typed up a letter. That’s probably all that happened. Unless you went to court and a judge (only a judge) made a ruling/judgement you do not need to do anything. Anyone can TRY to sue you for any reasons anytime, but if they actually file a lawsuit in court is a totally different thing. Them winning a lawsuit is also totallly different thing.

pwy1ky

legaladvice_train

My partner and I just got married and my aunt-in-law is suing us and the family because she was not invited to our wedding There was an initial lawsuit PRIOR to the wedding that claimed that my mother in law was not allowed to threaten to not attend if her sister were to be invited (I am actually shocked that this was a real document written up by a real lawyer. I guess people will do anything if they are paid adequately). And, turns out, the aunt was not invited to the wedding. This was entirely our choice because WHY in the WORLD would we invite her. However, I guess we were legally obligated to, because now we have violated this legal order and now likely have to appear in court. I didn't realize that you could sue to be invited to a party? There are such substantial, long term disputes within my partner's family that when their aunt was not invited to our wedding she decided to literally sue us. This is real. This is extremely big "I am rich and bored" behavior. This is some of the most flagrantly, ruthlessly, inappropriately un-family-like adult behavior I've seen in my life. So my question is....what can we do? Can we somehow contact a lawyer and get this shit handled/dropped/something without having to pay a lot of money? She is literally trying to punish us financially. It's like a joke. I don't get it.

hel2ig9

hel1q5h

>I am actually shocked that this was a real document written up by a real lawyer. So a lawyer wrote you a letter saying you had to invite said aunt? That doesn't mean anything. They could write you and tell you you had to walk 5.000 miles but that doesn't mean you have to actually do that... The whole story is a bit confusing but I'm guessing there was no lawsuit and no court order to invite this person so you didn't have to and any letters from this lawyer (if they're real) should be ignored. You only need to respond/act if any actual court documents show up, but I doubt they will. If you want you can look up the information for the lawyer online and contact them to see if they actually send these letters. Use the contact information you find online, not on the letter. There's a chance they sent a letter with a fake letterhead. > This is real. This is extremely big "I am rich and bored" behavior. Even rich people can't use the courts to force an invite to a wedding... I would be interested to see a law that would force anyone to invite an unwanted guest to a private event.

Is it small claims court and you got a summons to appear for mediation or something? They sometimes schedule a mediation upon complaint filing. That's the only sense I can make out of this. It does not sound like they have a valid cause of action. You may be able to get monetary sanctions against them for filing a frivolous lawsuit. A motion to dismiss would be granted in a heartbeat.

pwy1ky

legaladvice_train

My partner and I just got married and my aunt-in-law is suing us and the family because she was not invited to our wedding There was an initial lawsuit PRIOR to the wedding that claimed that my mother in law was not allowed to threaten to not attend if her sister were to be invited (I am actually shocked that this was a real document written up by a real lawyer. I guess people will do anything if they are paid adequately). And, turns out, the aunt was not invited to the wedding. This was entirely our choice because WHY in the WORLD would we invite her. However, I guess we were legally obligated to, because now we have violated this legal order and now likely have to appear in court. I didn't realize that you could sue to be invited to a party? There are such substantial, long term disputes within my partner's family that when their aunt was not invited to our wedding she decided to literally sue us. This is real. This is extremely big "I am rich and bored" behavior. This is some of the most flagrantly, ruthlessly, inappropriately un-family-like adult behavior I've seen in my life. So my question is....what can we do? Can we somehow contact a lawyer and get this shit handled/dropped/something without having to pay a lot of money? She is literally trying to punish us financially. It's like a joke. I don't get it.

hel1q5h

helmeeq

Is it small claims court and you got a summons to appear for mediation or something? They sometimes schedule a mediation upon complaint filing. That's the only sense I can make out of this. It does not sound like they have a valid cause of action. You may be able to get monetary sanctions against them for filing a frivolous lawsuit. A motion to dismiss would be granted in a heartbeat.

>There was an initial lawsuit PRIOR to the wedding that claimed that my mother in law was not allowed to threaten to not attend if her sister were to be invited Was this an actual lawsuit or just a demand letter written by a lawyer? It sounds like it was just a demand letter. But let's assume the ridiculous that this lawsuit was filed and won by your aunt-in-law. Call it tortious interference of some absurd form I don't know, won for failure to appear. Even if that were (absurdly) the case that could only bind your mother in law, preventing her from interfering with your choice of who to invite. It would in no way obligate you to invite her. If it was only ever a demand letter by a layer to begin with not even your mother in law is legally bound by it. Much less you. Your aunt-in-law has no case. Just show up for court if it comes to that, however unlikely, and laugh at her.

v10q2z

legaladvice_train

I charged with a felony when I was the victim Back in 2020 I was arrested and charged with domestic abuse assault impeding normal breathing and 3rd degree harassment. My dad was kicking me out and started a fight with me when I came to pack my things. We were in the front yard when the cops arrived and my stepbrother had joined by this time and was choking me out. When the cops were taking witness statements they only took my dad and stepmoms statement even though my stepbrother was involved and 4 other witnesses. The cops statement stated I was in a choke hold. My dad also stated he had said what caused the fight. But I was charged with the impeding breathing and the harassment charge for what he said. The trial went on for 2 years before being dismissed and had to have a second district attorney look over the case. The second district attorney said that he was dismissing the case because it was clearly all in the police report I didnt do either of the crimes. He also said that he could see with how my dad and stepmom kept changing their stories over the 2 years. I'm glad the charges got dismissed and in a month or so I can fill out paperwork to get the charge expunged off my record. But in that two years the whole case caused me to have severe depression, lose a career I was just starting, I didnt get numerous jobs because the felony charge and was even banned from using doordash because I had applied and was denied because of the felony. I even had to sit down with my first court appointed attorney and read the police report to him because he hadn't even read it 6 months into the case and treated me like I was guilty. The whole trial I was having to prove i was innocent. The second district attorney said it was pretty common for this guy to just put cases through and just skimming over case files. Is this something I can sue the state or the original district attorney for?

iakdwn1

iak33ay

Contact your local bar / and or go to your local college law school they have legal clinics that tend to help people in your situation.

Judges and prosecutors have absolute immunity.

v10q2z

legaladvice_train

I charged with a felony when I was the victim Back in 2020 I was arrested and charged with domestic abuse assault impeding normal breathing and 3rd degree harassment. My dad was kicking me out and started a fight with me when I came to pack my things. We were in the front yard when the cops arrived and my stepbrother had joined by this time and was choking me out. When the cops were taking witness statements they only took my dad and stepmoms statement even though my stepbrother was involved and 4 other witnesses. The cops statement stated I was in a choke hold. My dad also stated he had said what caused the fight. But I was charged with the impeding breathing and the harassment charge for what he said. The trial went on for 2 years before being dismissed and had to have a second district attorney look over the case. The second district attorney said that he was dismissing the case because it was clearly all in the police report I didnt do either of the crimes. He also said that he could see with how my dad and stepmom kept changing their stories over the 2 years. I'm glad the charges got dismissed and in a month or so I can fill out paperwork to get the charge expunged off my record. But in that two years the whole case caused me to have severe depression, lose a career I was just starting, I didnt get numerous jobs because the felony charge and was even banned from using doordash because I had applied and was denied because of the felony. I even had to sit down with my first court appointed attorney and read the police report to him because he hadn't even read it 6 months into the case and treated me like I was guilty. The whole trial I was having to prove i was innocent. The second district attorney said it was pretty common for this guy to just put cases through and just skimming over case files. Is this something I can sue the state or the original district attorney for?

iakdwn1

iakakb0

Contact your local bar / and or go to your local college law school they have legal clinics that tend to help people in your situation.

Did you go with a public defender or hire a lawyer?

v10q2z

legaladvice_train

I charged with a felony when I was the victim Back in 2020 I was arrested and charged with domestic abuse assault impeding normal breathing and 3rd degree harassment. My dad was kicking me out and started a fight with me when I came to pack my things. We were in the front yard when the cops arrived and my stepbrother had joined by this time and was choking me out. When the cops were taking witness statements they only took my dad and stepmoms statement even though my stepbrother was involved and 4 other witnesses. The cops statement stated I was in a choke hold. My dad also stated he had said what caused the fight. But I was charged with the impeding breathing and the harassment charge for what he said. The trial went on for 2 years before being dismissed and had to have a second district attorney look over the case. The second district attorney said that he was dismissing the case because it was clearly all in the police report I didnt do either of the crimes. He also said that he could see with how my dad and stepmom kept changing their stories over the 2 years. I'm glad the charges got dismissed and in a month or so I can fill out paperwork to get the charge expunged off my record. But in that two years the whole case caused me to have severe depression, lose a career I was just starting, I didnt get numerous jobs because the felony charge and was even banned from using doordash because I had applied and was denied because of the felony. I even had to sit down with my first court appointed attorney and read the police report to him because he hadn't even read it 6 months into the case and treated me like I was guilty. The whole trial I was having to prove i was innocent. The second district attorney said it was pretty common for this guy to just put cases through and just skimming over case files. Is this something I can sue the state or the original district attorney for?

iak33ay

iakok7i

Judges and prosecutors have absolute immunity.

What is the state?

v10q2z

legaladvice_train

I charged with a felony when I was the victim Back in 2020 I was arrested and charged with domestic abuse assault impeding normal breathing and 3rd degree harassment. My dad was kicking me out and started a fight with me when I came to pack my things. We were in the front yard when the cops arrived and my stepbrother had joined by this time and was choking me out. When the cops were taking witness statements they only took my dad and stepmoms statement even though my stepbrother was involved and 4 other witnesses. The cops statement stated I was in a choke hold. My dad also stated he had said what caused the fight. But I was charged with the impeding breathing and the harassment charge for what he said. The trial went on for 2 years before being dismissed and had to have a second district attorney look over the case. The second district attorney said that he was dismissing the case because it was clearly all in the police report I didnt do either of the crimes. He also said that he could see with how my dad and stepmom kept changing their stories over the 2 years. I'm glad the charges got dismissed and in a month or so I can fill out paperwork to get the charge expunged off my record. But in that two years the whole case caused me to have severe depression, lose a career I was just starting, I didnt get numerous jobs because the felony charge and was even banned from using doordash because I had applied and was denied because of the felony. I even had to sit down with my first court appointed attorney and read the police report to him because he hadn't even read it 6 months into the case and treated me like I was guilty. The whole trial I was having to prove i was innocent. The second district attorney said it was pretty common for this guy to just put cases through and just skimming over case files. Is this something I can sue the state or the original district attorney for?

iakok7i

iakakb0

What is the state?

Did you go with a public defender or hire a lawyer?

pbyeyi

legaladvice_train

Closed on my home and recently found out the house next door is a mental health group home (non-profit). Was the realtor required to disclose this during the sale? Bergen county, NJ The title kinda says it all. We just closed on a beautiful home and found out our neighbor is group home for non-self sufficient disabled men. Was the realtor required to disclose? We were notified our taxes went up this year about $500, based on a $100,000 raise of appraisal, which we thought was appropriate until our neighbor clued us in. My neighbor only told us about it because I complained our neighbors were watching me and my fiancé do yard work for hours. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

hafd2eb

haf1akr

If it’s makes you feel better, you will enjoy less property crime. I used to live next to something similar and because there were night staff on and some residents were a little curious, we enjoyed a complete crime free stay!

>Was the realtor required to disclose? No.

pbyeyi

legaladvice_train

Closed on my home and recently found out the house next door is a mental health group home (non-profit). Was the realtor required to disclose this during the sale? Bergen county, NJ The title kinda says it all. We just closed on a beautiful home and found out our neighbor is group home for non-self sufficient disabled men. Was the realtor required to disclose? We were notified our taxes went up this year about $500, based on a $100,000 raise of appraisal, which we thought was appropriate until our neighbor clued us in. My neighbor only told us about it because I complained our neighbors were watching me and my fiancé do yard work for hours. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

haf3ph8

hafd2eb

Unfortunately, no that did not have to be disclosed.

If it’s makes you feel better, you will enjoy less property crime. I used to live next to something similar and because there were night staff on and some residents were a little curious, we enjoyed a complete crime free stay!

uxuv35

legaladvice_train

My mother-in-law says we can't keep her from her grandchild because she has grandparent rights. LA We are currently living with my wife's parents. We haven't told her we were going no contact as soon as we leave but we are thinking about it due to their toxicity. We are looking into moving to TX soon. She said we couldn't even move away from them because of their rights. It sounds like BS to me but I wanted to check on it. Google says grandparent rights come into play if a parent or parents are deemed incompetent or dead.

ia0h5aj

ia0ooz5

https://www.courts.ca.gov/17976.htm?rdeLocaleAttr=en I am not a lawyer, but it looks as if Grandparents rights are more geared towards a primary caregiver cutting off an established relationship with the secondary caregivers parents.

> She said we couldn't even move away from them because of their rights. That's cute, but wrong. Louisiana does not recognize grandparents' rights anywhere near the extent that your mother-in-law thinks. The relevant statutes are La. R.S. 9.344, Louisiana Civil Code Article 136, and Art. 1264 of the Louisiana Children’s Code. http://legis.la.gov/legis/Law.aspx?d=107570 http://legis.la.gov/Legis/Law.aspx?d=108715 http://legis.la.gov/Legis/Law.aspx?d=72739 The Cliffs Notes version is that so long as you and your spouse are married, alive, and not incarcerated, the grandparents are pretty much out of luck under ordinary circumstances.

mkux6q

legaladvice_train

Company keeps sending me snail mail after I called and asked them to stop. Company XYZ was sending a lot of junk mail to my apartment, so I called and asked them to stop. They said they couldn't stop because they were sending it on behalf of someone else's account - the previous resident, and that the previous resident would have to contact them. I obviously have no way of contacting the previous resident. A month later, and I'm still getting the junk mail. Can I sue? ​ \[Northeast United States\]

gthwu9a

gthwshv

>Can I sue? No. You've no loss to sue for and no cause of action to sue if you did. They're entitled to send you mail.

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mkux6q

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Company keeps sending me snail mail after I called and asked them to stop. Company XYZ was sending a lot of junk mail to my apartment, so I called and asked them to stop. They said they couldn't stop because they were sending it on behalf of someone else's account - the previous resident, and that the previous resident would have to contact them. I obviously have no way of contacting the previous resident. A month later, and I'm still getting the junk mail. Can I sue? &#x200B; \[Northeast United States\]

gthy57h

gthwshv

You have no legal recourse here. You can take the items you are receiving and put in marker "NOT AT ADDRESS" if they are marked for someone else, and put them in your outgoing mail. Once these start coming back to them, eventually, they'll stop sending them.

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mkux6q

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Company keeps sending me snail mail after I called and asked them to stop. Company XYZ was sending a lot of junk mail to my apartment, so I called and asked them to stop. They said they couldn't stop because they were sending it on behalf of someone else's account - the previous resident, and that the previous resident would have to contact them. I obviously have no way of contacting the previous resident. A month later, and I'm still getting the junk mail. Can I sue? &#x200B; \[Northeast United States\]

gti137b

gtvekby

Disrupt the handling barcode, write ADDRESSEE UNKNOWN on the mailpiece, and deposit it wherever you normally put outgoing mail. You can also attach a note to your mailbox door saying "So-and-So Not At This Address" That may cause the mailperson to not deliver it to begin with.

Is the mailer first class? If so, visit the USPS and ask the clerk to fill out form 3575Z for this individual. Are you receiving other mail for this individual? Non-first class (presorted STD/EDDM/ECRWSS/ECRWSH

mkux6q

legaladvice_train

Company keeps sending me snail mail after I called and asked them to stop. Company XYZ was sending a lot of junk mail to my apartment, so I called and asked them to stop. They said they couldn't stop because they were sending it on behalf of someone else's account - the previous resident, and that the previous resident would have to contact them. I obviously have no way of contacting the previous resident. A month later, and I'm still getting the junk mail. Can I sue? &#x200B; \[Northeast United States\]

gtjj5xo

gtvekby

I don’t think it’s a situation you can sue but if they include a return letter just tear up what they sent you, stuff it in the envelope and Mail it back to them. The postage will already be paid and it costs the company more money that way. I’ve heard many who have done this and haven’t gotten a letter back since

Is the mailer first class? If so, visit the USPS and ask the clerk to fill out form 3575Z for this individual. Are you receiving other mail for this individual? Non-first class (presorted STD/EDDM/ECRWSS/ECRWSH

mkux6q

legaladvice_train

Company keeps sending me snail mail after I called and asked them to stop. Company XYZ was sending a lot of junk mail to my apartment, so I called and asked them to stop. They said they couldn't stop because they were sending it on behalf of someone else's account - the previous resident, and that the previous resident would have to contact them. I obviously have no way of contacting the previous resident. A month later, and I'm still getting the junk mail. Can I sue? &#x200B; \[Northeast United States\]

gthwshv

gtvekby

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mkux6q

legaladvice_train

Company keeps sending me snail mail after I called and asked them to stop. Company XYZ was sending a lot of junk mail to my apartment, so I called and asked them to stop. They said they couldn't stop because they were sending it on behalf of someone else's account - the previous resident, and that the previous resident would have to contact them. I obviously have no way of contacting the previous resident. A month later, and I'm still getting the junk mail. Can I sue? &#x200B; \[Northeast United States\]

gtvekby

gtmjb1s

Is the mailer first class? If so, visit the USPS and ask the clerk to fill out form 3575Z for this individual. Are you receiving other mail for this individual? Non-first class (presorted STD/EDDM/ECRWSS/ECRWSH

You can return the mail as no longer at this address, you can send them a certified letter stating you are the sole recipient of all mail at that address and they have 30 days from receipt of notice to cease and desist all communication to that address. If they don’t stop you can sue, though it would cost more money that it’s worth. Just throw the mail in the trash.

mkux6q

legaladvice_train

Company keeps sending me snail mail after I called and asked them to stop. Company XYZ was sending a lot of junk mail to my apartment, so I called and asked them to stop. They said they couldn't stop because they were sending it on behalf of someone else's account - the previous resident, and that the previous resident would have to contact them. I obviously have no way of contacting the previous resident. A month later, and I'm still getting the junk mail. Can I sue? &#x200B; \[Northeast United States\]

gti137b

gthwshv

Disrupt the handling barcode, write ADDRESSEE UNKNOWN on the mailpiece, and deposit it wherever you normally put outgoing mail. You can also attach a note to your mailbox door saying "So-and-So Not At This Address" That may cause the mailperson to not deliver it to begin with.

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mkux6q

legaladvice_train

Company keeps sending me snail mail after I called and asked them to stop. Company XYZ was sending a lot of junk mail to my apartment, so I called and asked them to stop. They said they couldn't stop because they were sending it on behalf of someone else's account - the previous resident, and that the previous resident would have to contact them. I obviously have no way of contacting the previous resident. A month later, and I'm still getting the junk mail. Can I sue? &#x200B; \[Northeast United States\]

gthwshv

gtjj5xo

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I don’t think it’s a situation you can sue but if they include a return letter just tear up what they sent you, stuff it in the envelope and Mail it back to them. The postage will already be paid and it costs the company more money that way. I’ve heard many who have done this and haven’t gotten a letter back since

9q95fr

legaladvice_train

Getting mail for a dead maybe-former resident. University sending the mail insists he's alive, that he lives in my unit, and that they'll keep sending them. [CA, USA] I rent a condo near a university in suburban LA county. I've lived here for several years. Recently, I started getting mail for a man who doesn't live here. The mail is from the university, and they appear to be retirement benefits from the information printed on the envelope. Often times it's just single envelopes with what I assume are checks inside, but other times it's sizable boxes filled with tons of paperwork explaining benefits. One time it was a large package; I obviously didn't open it, so I have no idea what it contained. Each time, I've written "return to sender, nobody here by that name" on envelopes or boxes, and my mailman has taken them away. Sometimes the return-to-sendered envelopes come back, with the mailman explaining that the college mailroom told him that *yes,* This Particular Man *does* live here. He doesn't! My landlords don't recognize the name, and they've owned the unit for over a decade. My elderly HOA president hasn't heard of This Particular Man either, and he's lived in the complex for a loooooooong time. I looked into This Particular Man, and found that he's **dead**. I called the university department sending the retirement checks and told them that I'm erroneously receiving mail for a dead former employee who never lived in my unit, but they keep insisting that NO, he's alive, and he lives with me, and that they will keep sending the mail. I can't find any contact info for his family, so I don't have a forwarding address. The university wouldn't let me know if he had any other contact information. When I talked to my mailman, they told me to talk to the university, which obviously got me nowhere. What is my responsibility, as the renter of this unit, for this mail? If one of the packages gets stolen off of my doorstep, am I liable (though who would care)? I feel weird receiving checks for somebody every two weeks; am I obligated by law to do anything more with them than what I'm doing (returning to sender every time)? Is there any way I can get the university to stop erroneously sending this mail so whoever is supposed to be getting these checks does?

e87tql2

e87w9ax

You could talk to your mail carrier, and also leave a note on/in your mailbox that says “John Doe: Deceased and does not live here, please return to sender”. For any mail that still makes it to you, write “deceased; return to sender” and put in your outgoing mail (making sure you include the word deceased). I’d recommend contacting the organization sending you this information and talking to someone higher up. Tell them this person is deceased, that if they do whatever it is you did to find out he was deceased, they can verify for themselves. I know you said you couldn’t find his family; if you googled his name and executor of estate, do you find anything? That person is usually the one who can go online to usps.com and forward the mail. My malicious, non-law-abiding side would be inclined to do it myself and forward the person’s mail to the organization sending it, but I’m sure that’s illegal in at least three ways I can think of, so I don’t recommend that. Good luck!

I work for a similar university office in a different state, where we update records for any alumni, staff, friend of the University etc. We comb records daily to keep up to date on how to contact people and life events, especially for donations. If you can find something like alumni relations you may be able to find someone else who can help.