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| If I was to walk upstairs and see... Like, oh, you're going on, I'd be like, picture this whole story. You're like naked, having... and there's people around you who are like, you could hear them talking they're about you. Was he in the... Toys? Yeah, I mean, he had quite the collection. He! Should we talk about like the alleged trafficking tunnels that everybody's talking about on that one? Yes. Talk to what's 24. Get out and vote. And then you have this menu, guys. So I have me, so would you say you've split on? And I was like... | |
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| and they had each other's bad, but they would tell on each other, 100%. That's horrible. It got better over the years. Like it got into the point where there were only three girlfriends instead of seven and I really started to take the initiative because you know, anytime somebody would come to test for a playmate of the month, they would stay in the guest house at the mansion and they would come out with us and stuff. So it got to the point when a new girl would arrive, I volunteer to give them tours and show them around and introduce myself. So that kind of got everything off on a better foot and then everybody started becoming friends and like getting old. | |
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| It's like enough already. Like where's your real ass? Like that's like I think the real stuff is making it to way back I don't know. So I think men think like that, but me personally if I'm walking down the straight Nastia girl with a big ass owner, I'm gonna look I'm no better than a man. I'm like, God And she knows exactly what I'm talking about every time I do that she'll turn and look she's like wow Yeah, I'm no better than a man. So what was your best in your worst memory from the mansion? It's all so hard to narrow it down. I feel like I'm gonna say what I think they are in the net out | |
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| from now on and I was like, no, it wasn't that it was that or some fan is going to call me out and be like, you lying bitch, you said this was your best moment two weeks ago, because there's always people working at multiple, okay. So considering there could be multiple, I think one of my best memories at the mansion. I mean, one was working at the studio. I got to direct the playmate pictorials for a couple of years and that job was just so fun and so rewarding and everybody worked with was so amazing and it was fun getting to know all the girls and stuff. So that that in any time we have a | |
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| a rare moment that was like a girl's day. Like, one of the trips I always talk about was Bridget Sister Anastasia was turning 21 so we took her on this like road trip. Up through California we went to San Luis Obispo and stayed at the Madonna Inn and everybody got wasted and it was so much fun. So those are some of my favorite memories. Worst memory, I would say is like, anytime there was like group sex with like the girls I didn't get along with, it was so awful because like picture this horror story, you're like naked. | |
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| having sex and there's people around you who are like, you could hear them talking shit about you and like talking about your body and talking about Just it's a body scenario. Yeah, you're better than me. I probably would have punched a bitch in the night My God eat that. Now you're no such crooked So there's a lot of highs and lows for sure those are probably like off the top of my head my best in worst So you had to be around girls that were mean to you and had to have like sex together Yeah | |
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| But you hated each other. Yeah. You were one tough ass one thanks. You were one tough ass one. It's kind of traumatizing because it's one of those things you go into and like You know, when I was 22 I just thought I could handle anything and like I was this badass and you know I should be able to like have sex like a man and nothing matters and nothing hurts your feelings But I just got in so way in way over my head. It was just crazy you are your badass. I thought it's like it shaped you who you are to be like now 100 | |
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| percent, like I learned so much from every year. I have fell off the arm of the chair, like ten tops that I've never here. I don't know what's going on. But yes, I feel like you're a really good person because of what you've been through. Thank you. Of course. So what's the craziest for me you've heard about yourself? Oh, that's easy. I'm an MK Ultra Beta slave and the government has programmed me to like be a spy who's also like a sex partner, and I have handlers, I don't know about. I mean, maybe they brought me in to like... | |
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| undo the Playboy world, and I don't know. You know, I have something similar to that. You remember that print-off you guys got me? And it said, I was a Ukraine soldier. And I... I think I saw that. You know what? Fuck! And they're like, yeah, she's got a fake accent. Had you know. I'm like, I mean. I think that rumor was just something I came across online at some point. And this was like 10 years ago when I first saw it, and I clicked on some link. And then the link I clicked on that was supposedly like all the details about like all the clues as to why I'm an MK Ultra Beta slave. | |
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| and I've Disney Princess programming whatever that is. And I was raised in Alaska on purpose because they had to keep me isolated away from other people. And my name is Holly, because in pagan religions, the Holly tree is like something that protects you from evil. Like that's why there's like a whole lore behind it. Like Harry Potter's wand is made of Holly. Like if you look in the... So there's like a whole... They named it Hollywood. They named it Land Hollywood, because the lady was supposedly pagan. So it's like, there's all this lore. So then I click on the link that's gonna tell me more. | |
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| And then it says, you're IP addresses been blocked from seeing this. And I'm like, they blocked me from seeing what can you lower? Nothing is how do you have so much time in your day to come up with shit like that? And it's so like descriptive too and like into detail. And I'm like, people want to believe they can spare see so bad. That's why like the Playboy tunnel room where it took off. Yeah. Here's your conspiracy theory of the day. We live in a goldfish bowl. You know what? I don't necessarily just believe that with like eight or eight minutes. I don't even have... Have you ever seen Tucker Carlson talk about like how he knows this? | |
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| scoop on aliens, but he's like, not, I became like kind of obsessed with Tucker Carlson because I would see him on my FYP and that would just be short clips of him saying, you know, the aliens, I was briefed on the aliens, but it's so disturbing and it would like rock people to the core so I can't tell anybody, which is giving me the impression that he thinks is the only person to quit to handle this knowledge. So then I kind of became like fascinated with him. But like people have this theory that like we're really a breeding ground and our emotions are like an energy source for certain aliens. | |
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| long, and there wasn't really the competition. But when I first moved in, it was an absolute disaster. It was just, you know, everybody was trying to backstab the other one and get the other one kicked out. And it was just a nightmare. It's grossed up and be like that. Yeah, it's too much. Oh, like especially if you're all together, you don't need to stick together. But they're all dating the same man, right? Yeah. Yeah, how did that work? Not well. Not well. Oh, I get married. jealous. I don't know about you, but I couldn't share my end. Yeah. Well, I think it started out. Everybody was okay with it, because everybody was okay with it, because everybody was okay with it, because everybody was okay with it, because everybody was okay with it, because everybody was okay with it, because everybody was okay with it, because everybody was okay with it, because everybody was okay with it, because everybody was okay with it, because everybody was okay with it, because everybody was okay with it, because everybody was okay with it, everybody was okay with it, because everybody was okay with it, everybody was okay with it, everybody was okay with it, everybody was okay with it, everyone was okay with it, everybody was okay with it, everybody was okay with it, everybody was okay with it, everybody was okay with it. everybody was okay with it, everybody was okay with it. Everybody was okay with everybody was okay with it. Everybody was okay with everybody was okay with everybody was okay with everybody was okay with everybody was okay with everybody was okay with everybody. | |
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| like an ant farm experiment. So the goal of the goal thing could be a thing. You know how we say a goldfish like or a better yet Seamunkees. You know you can just look at them and they're bowl. They never know it's going to not side the bowl. We don't know it's outside of space. We're just something out there and we're just in like a big goldfish bowl. That's so true. So is it hard exposing people in your book and dealing with the backlash from it? Yeah I mean the backlash was really harsh because my book came out in 2015 before the Me Too movement was mainstream and people didn't really understand why I would be | |
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| talking about like a casting couch being problematic or why I would be talking about like emotional abuse or narcissistic relationships because people weren't really talking about that in the mainstream so much back then. So the backlash was crazy but also as far as people who were in that world like I knew that nobody in that world was ever going to speak to me again except for like a handful of close friends because even before I wrote my book like if I would be on social media and I would say something that was just kind of neutral about my Playboy experience and wasn't like hyping it up to the God. | |
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| People will get pissy at me or unfollow me people from that world so I'm like I can't do anything right I might as well just tell the truth. They're gonna have something to say regardless of then the day So I think you should do whatever you want to do and totally but I thought you needed to expose a little bit in the book So everybody understands where you're coming from. Yeah because it was like every day People would come up to me and ask how's half do you miss the mansion? Oh my God Are you so sad you're not there kind of a thing and I always like | |
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| say nice things that was the nice thing do oh everybody's good everybody's fine but it gets to a point when you you have to do that every day and you're living a lie kind of it starts to make you sick and you should have to be like yeah I just have to like tell people how it is and nobody came up to me asking how's half half of that? Good oh good they left you a lot about it you said I'm straight what was your relationship like with your family when you were in the house? oh I wanted to ask that too um when I was in the house I didn't really tell my family what was going | |
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| on, like I told them, I had moved in there and they didn't really know what I was doing. I kind of left it vague and then half had bought me a new car or at least me a new car and then my dad came down flew down to take my old car back up so they were gonna give it to a friend. And I was giving it a tour of the mansion and it was during the day half was in the office and he goes, oh, so does half actually live here? Ah, that would've been my reaction. No dad, so we never really talked about stuff like that. Okay. | |
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| Because I, you know, after getting in that relationship, like I said, I was in over my head and it was a relationship that I wasn't entirely comfortable with, even when the reality show cameras started filming. I wasn't really comfortable with the idea of doing a show because I'm like, I even though I've been here a couple of years, like, I don't even know how I feel about this relationship. I don't really want to blast it. Yeah. And even if you would have told your family, I feel like I wasn't like, got it. I can feel like no one's out there, right? Yeah. So what was the reaction when they, like, finally really talk about it? This is awkward, I know. | |
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| It is. I don't think I'd be in law, either. One of my cousins would be like, so what was it like, I'm like, hmm, well, everything you can imagine? Yeah, it's better. I can say totally. Now if you talk to like a, say a friend or something, I'm sure you could tell them, but now you're family. I'm like, I can blast it to a podcast to a million people, but not my family. I got one more question for you. Yes. What's one moving bed? I make some mango creasing. Well, he goes crazy. He goes crazy. That makes me an mango creasing. You know what's funny is there was this one time. I don't know if I'm gonna narrow it down to one. | |
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| I wanna move. But there's this one time where I was throwing a birthday party for Bridget and somebody had told me that there was this thing called like, it's kind of like back in the day they just do this thing called Tupperware parties where people would come over and they'd sell housewives like Tupperware and they'd show them like, oh you can buy, you know, this container for your food and I don't sound so weird by today standards. But the way they would describe this back then is like this is like a Tupperware party but for sex toys. So I thought how funny if that would be this party. | |
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| And it's actually what we filmed for the pilot of girls next door so it's like on the DVD if anybody wants to look for it And so these people came and they showed us like all these sex toys and like this is what you can buy and like Like this is like what you put on your ass hold and make it numb and just all this weird shit But there was a book they had and it was a book was like a hundred different sex moves and it was like really good stuff like This is how you make it feel like he's having a thresome even if it's only with you And I've tried looking for this book and I can't I forget what it's called I can't find it | |
| 00:11:30 - 00:12:00 | |
| anywhere, because I'm like I could use a refresher course. And don't even try to search for it because I've tried to search for it. And we searched for like six tip books from like the 2000s. The ones you will find are so cringy and I swear to God, I'm not talking about any of those. It's like has cringy stuff in it. But there was this one book that I swear had like really good shit in it. Was he into sex toys? Yeah, I mean, he had quite the collection. I mean, did you get to use him on humor? I think he did back. | |
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| everybody kind of gets in do it as like a transactional relationship, nobody's like thinking they're in love or anything like that. But Hep and I got really you know, co-dependent and enmeshed and it kind of just turned into a relationship between just us near the end and Bridget and Kendra were there more for like the show and hanging out and stuff. So things got a little more chill. But in the beginning it was a nightmare. Yeah. What was he like? Um, he was a multifaceted character for sure. He was somebody. | |
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| and the day I've never tried to use sex toys on him but and but come here and put this Dildo over here. Oh, thank you for coming here. Welcome. Hey all, I hope you enjoyed the show. And if you haven't gotten yourself any talk to a march. Be sure to click the link in the description below so we can match. Tag me and talk to a wire watching the episode and let us know what you think. And before you go, don't forget to subscribe to that thing. | |
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| that in the beginning, you know, I really looked up to you and was like really impressed by, because he done so much and accomplished so much. And he had such a community of friends that just loved him. And I just thought he was like the greatest person ever. But then over the years, my eyes started to open with like how manipulative he was with the girlfriends. And you know, there was so much drama in the beginning and I always just blamed it completely on the other women. And it thought everybody else was the problem and half was so great. But then as the years went by and one of the reasons I decided to leave was it just became more and more obvious to me that he was like... | |
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| like loving that people were like fighting or he thought it was fighting over him. And so he would kind of like encourage it and stuff and other girls would come back to me and like tell me things that he said. So that was one of the reasons I left. So he was playing y'all against one another. Totally a hundred percent. I hate men. Yeah. Right there is like, oh, that makes me so mad. Hollywood, when you girls come to the house or you agree to do anything with you at the house or anything like that. Are you guys under contract from that point on once you're staying in the house? No. That's not all works. You could leave and go get a new job. | |
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| or like, we're girls scared that they wouldn't be able to book anything else if they left half or kind of what was the deal with that. Well, the rule was we weren't supposed to work. Like, I kept my waitressing job when I was there just because I was like, I don't know how this is going to work out. Like, I'm not going to, you know, ditch everything. But then a couple months into it. He got really jealous and told me I had to quit the job. So that was something I wasn't really aware of when I moved in. I thought I could still go out in audition and do different things. But then, once you get there and once you're in there and once you kind of feel a little bit like, this is your home and you're a little bit financially dependent. | |
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| on the situation you find out where you're not supposed to work. You're not supposed to do this. So then it gets kind of tricky because you want to save up and you want to build a life for yourself. So it gets tricky like that. But we were never under any contract or anything like that. Which is surprising to a lot of people, especially that he didn't have people sign NDAs. But I feel like he was so greedy to get late and get people up and do his room that he doesn't want something standing in between that. He's not like, wait, you have to sign this first. So you couldn't even be your own person really? No. And what's the average age range of these girls at the time in the house? | |
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| like how old are you guys when this is all happening? I was 22 when I moved in. I think there was one other girl who was my age and at the time, the other five girls were a little bit older, like more in their late 20s, but women who are coming to try out for playmate and stuff, they were usually anywhere from like 18 to 25. And there were girlfriends who were like 18, 19, at different times too. Did he have a certain age like say you get to be 32? Would he like kick you out if you got to a certain age? There wasn't anything like that. Like he did have some older girlfriend. | |
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| at some point and why I say older, I mean like early 30s. So there wasn't like technically that age range, but I would see a lot in the notes when it came to like women who were trying out for playmate, like the editors would write, like, oh, she's 28, like that's... Like watch out, like she's getting too old. So he like a young girl. Yeah, for sure. Come on now. So I've had really cool parties though. Yeah, the parties were super fun, especially back then. They were really exclusive and hard to get into, and I was just like in college and working at a restaurant, and I was just like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, | |
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| And some of the girls that the restaurant like the really cool ones got to go to those parties. I thought that would be so cool to get to go. And I was working for Hawaiian Tropic and one night at one of the events. Heft doctor came and he wanted to invite all the girls to the party. So I was so excited. I got to go. Because I'd never seen anything like it. It was just this huge, beautiful party. And you'd see different celebrities there. And people you recognize from TV and you know, it was the cool party in town. Everybody wanted to go to. And it was hard to get in and back then like nobody had cameras on their phones or anything like that. So everything felt great. | |
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| are you like private and exclusive? Yeah, something you could go tell your friends about the next day. That all changed when everybody got smartphones. Then the parties were not cool anymore. And it's crazy how something like that just makes such a huge difference and ruins everything. And does your own everything? Yeah. Did that kind of change? Do you think the entire business model for Playboy once the internet and smartphones came out? Because I mean, print is obviously kind of dead. Because I feel like back in the day no one turned down Playboy. Now I'd totally turn down Playboy two days after her video went viral. It's like I feel like that's something that would... | |
| 00:17:37 - 00:18:07 | |
| happened in the early 2000s or before and no one said no I feel like I'm not comfortable in my own skin like that but anybody else could go out there and do it because like I'm not against I like it like a little outfit and some of them like oh that's cool and I watch I've ever watched the house many yeah yeah I would have told me it would be that I was funny what do you mean I would see ever watch. I was in it for like a couple scenes just briefly like we would be like standing next to half and have a few like I didn't have a character or anything I was just kind of playing myself. I want to have to watch that. | |
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| again. I watched like 10 times I never paid attention to that. They're like shows in it and I was like where? I was like, oh, she was shaly. I had to do my research and then it popped up last night. We'll rewatch in and it popped up. There was a scary movie that popped up like scary movie 3. And then there was a house when I was like, there's no way she was in scary movie. There's no way. No, I was in the very beginning. We had a scene with Charlie Sheen. Scary movie 4, that was the one. I did not pay attention to shit. I'm learning so much. I think- | |
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| better pics. So I went up to a thousand times your money. Yeah, should we talk about like the alleged trafficking tunnels that everybody's talking about on the list? Okay, so like I haven't seen all these TikToks that people have been tagging me in because of course like the whole P diddy thing is breaking and his house was a couple of blocks down from the Playboy mansion like pretty close and now everybody's saying that there's trafficking tunnels underneath the two houses and it's not true. I can tell you where like the rumor got started but it's this big rumor. | |
| 00:19:37 - 00:20:07 | |
| that's going around. So like in 2015, Playboy thought it would be cool to like start this quirky little rumor that there were like hidden tunnels underneath the mansion that like went to like some old 70s actors houses. And they had these like fake blue prints drawn up and they were doing like these tweets and stuff. And it was for April fools, they did like the holidays for April fools. But that was like right before everybody kind of went Q and on. And then people like latched onto that rumor and people think it's real. And now that like the P did anything. | |
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| breaking and his house is kind of close by and then there's the rumor. There's like the interviews with like J.G. War, right? And she's kind of like sitting there. I think speculating in this part of the rumor where she's like talking about, well, you know, like Bill Cosby was doing all this stuff at the Playboy Mansion. And then, you know, there's tunnels that go back and forth, which I'm sure is like she heard that like everybody else heard it. But now it's like a thing that people are believing and they're like, holly, you have to speak out about this. And I'm like, as far as I know there were no tunnels. And I was snooping around every corner of that thing. Yeah. I want to go any out too. | |
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| a lot of time on my house. It was like beauty in the beast when Bell is like into the West Wing, it's not supposed to be there. Like I was looking for anything in every- I'd be curious to those. Thousands like a big house like that, I'm like, okay well what's in here? What's in there? Totally. What's in there? I'm asking to the house. Yeah, there was grounds, there was a zoo. We had like monkeys and different birds and things like that. That's cool. I forgot you wanted to ask her about that. Yeah, I did. I heard it and I was like, there's no way. So I have to just had like his own zoo? Yeah, it is zoo permit. And the person who bought the house now, is like, | |
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| like got the permit with the house so the animals are still there and still there. Yeah, I loved it. There were like so many exotic birds and things that I made friends with. Really doing anything with the building anymore? He's renovating it. Yeah, he's posted a couple pictures. I think he's doing a pretty good job. He's keeping like a lot of the historic accuracy but like, making it a little bit nicer in some places. Did you ever witness like anything weird in there? In the house? I think I watched a podcast. You done? And you said, you walk, is like when you first got there and you walked up stairs and there have... | |
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| like an orgy. Oh yeah I mean I was like a normal thing to say. Yeah that was like on the schedule. Yeah it does admit a day for it. So what was like your experience like bursting that. Well I was really really wasted so the memory is blocky. But yeah it's crazy it's a lot of that and a lot of I mean eat everything from like I saw ghost shit up there. | |
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| There I saw like weird people wandering around. It's our ghosts. Yeah. Yeah. And Bridget did see one her room. She saw ghosts. If I was to walk upstairs and see, like a origin going on, I'd be like I feel like Rob Mazenburg. Okay. I did see that. Not just from her. I'm head out. I don't know how I'd take that. Yeah. It's a lie. I think it'd be something to just see like two people as it is. I'm walking on like, Oh shit. My bad. I should go on. But like ten people? I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. | |
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| going on at all times for sure. What kind of ghost did you see in the mountain? Well the first one I saw was in the gym. I was working out and I saw a girl come out of the tanning bedroom and like walk around the corner and I was new to the house at this time and I when I was done working out I thought well she'd go introduce myself towards probably somebody who's like testing for playmate staying out in the guest house and I went around the corner and she was gone and I saw there were like mere like dance studio type walls in there and there was like looked like a cat out of a door and | |
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| And that's the only place she could've gone and disappeared to, so I thought, oh, that must be another like secret door. Because while there might not be underground tunnels from the mansion as far as I know, there were kind of like secret passages like within the house. Like if you went down to the basement and like cut under, you could get to the gym because the gym was like built underground. And that's how I had gone in one way. And then since I was new to the house and saw this cutter, I thought, oh, that must be another. I'll check that out later. I gotta go do whatever. So next time I was in the gym, I'm like, I wanna see what this other secret passage goes. So I go and I pop the door open. And it was just a really, | |
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| shallow closet that was full of stuff so I'm like where did that girl go? I never saw her again, and then Bridget saw an apparition in her room one night. She just got a new puppy and it was her her sister and this other girl were in her bedroom and they all saw this woman with like stringy black hair like a peer in the doorway to the bathroom and then disappear and all three of the girls saw it. I had a pack my shit. I wouldn't do it at a right. I can't do the walk-dry on with some sage burning big on. So creepy. | |
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| I don't know if anybody died in there, but I don't feel like it's somebody has to die in a house for it to be haunted. I feel like their energy went on. Like, did you share a room with any of the other girls, or did you all have your own separate rooms? Um...I mean, it depend on how many girls live there at the time for the most part girls had their own rooms. I shared a room with half when I first moved in though, for like a couple days. I lived in what would become Bridget's room with one other girl. They were like three beds in there at the time, and then I had my own room. | |
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| down the hall for a couple months and then I moved in to have Spiderman but for the most part people out there on rooms I think Brigitte just liked having people over and her room was always kind of like the slumber party room. Made it more homey. Yeah for sure. I'm glad to do in Brigitte's step together though. Me too! Like I don't think I would have got through it without her because she was like the one other girl who I felt like was sane for a while until we started making more friends and stuff. So it's great to have somebody like that. That's kind of like man. Yeah. We're living together since we get into the shit that's how it's going to end too. | |
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| I think that's what saves you, you know, when you're going through like all this exposure and this crazy wild ride, it's like holding on to your friends and your old friends that know you. I want to be in Bridge it, in Friends. 22 years. It was just for birthday yesterday and I did a birthday bridge. I did one of those posts with like, in my story was like, happy birthday Bridget, my partner and crime of, and I'm counting back on 22 years, now it's crazy. Now that did you go in down, who do you think's next? I mean, there's nobody that I personally have info on everybody's saying jays. | |
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| Oh, I've seen that too. That's like the gossip. Him and Jay-Z were friends though, weren't they? Diddy? I saw things like... I think that's why people think you might be the next go-down as allegedly they were involved or something. Yeah, I saw something where it was talking about him and Beyonce like covering it up for Diddy. Yeah, I've seen that too. I don't know what they're covering up though. Like I mean, everything's kind of out and open. I mean, he likes his baby old. People have been asking me to comment on the tunnels specifically about the P.D.D. thing. I never want to any of his parties or... | |
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| anything like that. I think I probably have a picture with him somewhere like crossing paths at like a nightclub. You know, I've been at like dinners. He's at, but when you're around somebody casually, you don't see like the downhill show that you're doing. You know what they're doing, you know what I mean? So they said he had like freak-offs too. Yeah, he had the baby oil was for. He bought it in bulk at Costco, but he buys everything in bulk. So that's the defense they're using right now. That's not that weird. Okay, but what are you gonna use that much baby oil for? Yeah, what's an adult exactly. That's not for. | |
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| 00:29:07 - 00:29:37 | |
| we should try to get tickets for the next Tennessee game. Oh, can you see when the Titans are playing at home next? I bet NFL games are fun too. Yeah, good idea, but you know what I love about Game Time. You can see the views from your seats before you buy the tickets. Oh that looks perfect. And Game Time also has a new feature. It's called Game Time Picks. It makes getting tickets for these events so much easier. Oh, I know what you're talking about. It helps filter everything. So you can see all the deals quicker. Yelp exactly and what's cool about it is. Even if we don't want to get these Tennessee tickets now, we can get last minute deals. Right up till the start of the event. And even an hour after it starts, that's great. | |
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| friends you guys and like other like let's say if a pro athlete walked in and he thought you were cute and wanted to talk to you which security put it into that right away if you guys started fradernizing or how to that kind of whole thing work. I think so yeah I mean there were some girls who would get around it or like exchange numbers just kind of like on the low or whatever but most guys wouldn't really approach us if they saw that we were at the table with her because they just kind of knew like that's the boundary and when people ask me about like you know crazy shit I saw the parties I didn't see a lot of crazy shit at the parties because he wouldn't think. | |
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| But when people were like around half like, where he would sit at the party, people would behave a lot, because they wanted to be invited back. Like you kind of have to be at the other end of the party without him to kind of see like the crazy shit go off. I thought that'd be kind of fun. Yeah. But you were always with him, so that's probably why you never saw that. Totally. Like I went to parties before. I was with him. I was invited to some parties. But even then, like, I didn't see too much. I would never stay that late and I wouldn't see crazy shit. But then I would hear other people tell me about it. | |
| 00:31:07 - 00:31:37 | |
| was going on at the other end of the party. So how did you get to be like his favorite girl, like his main girlfriend? I think part of it was just my personality suited his a lot. Like I like to stay in and watch movies and you know I got really involved in the magazine, T.O.S.R.s, working as a photo editor, so we bonded over a lot of like common interest things. Okay, yeah. I bet you as a nice guy for... well besides his, so I'm gonna be able to blame you. | |
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| Would you ever go back and do it again? You know, people ask you that all the time and it's a weird question to answer, because I don't know if they mean, would you just go back and like change it or would you have to like put your consciousness back in your old body and like go relive it in real time? Because if it was like relive it in real time, I don't think I'd want to. Because there were so many like bad years. Like things kind of got good when the reality show started filming, but that was about halfway through my time there, and I wouldn't want to like redo it again. I would find something else to do. But as far as like going back and like change. | |
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| anything that I don't like or anything I find unsavory I wouldn't do that because I feel like I learned so much from it and I like we're ended up and I feel like I can make lemonade out of lemons. So yeah. So you were still in the house when you sort of doing your reality show. What did you think about it? He loved it because he loved attention, he loved being famous, he loved staying relevant. Like he wouldn't necessarily think that's the case because he was such an iconic person. You think he'd kind of be secure in that. But no, no. Like he loved going out and getting it. | |
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| attention at the night clubs he just loved all of that. So in the show blue up he was super into it. And fact like orgies and shit stopped because he wasn't like he wasn't looking for like the validation and trying to like get as many got to night clubs and get all the attention. Yeah, but once he's getting attention off the show he was like so happy with that and so busy with that that that was kind of like what everything was all about. Did you have a voter anything you take your own. No, he didn't have one. Yeah. He wasn't in the leaving that. | |
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| place kind of within the Playboy world. It was such a big company. There are so many people that worked as bunnies and the clubs across the country. So you're going to find stories within these people. That's kind of scary though. It is very scary because every story is so completely different, the murders happen. Some of the people we talk about that were in the Playboy world. We're the perpetrators, some were the victims. And we're recording the third season now. So it's like there's so many stories. Did you ever get scared while you were in the mansion? I'm not about things like that when I was... | |
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| house. It was really hard to even get him to travel. Like we started traveling a little bit for the show, but it was only for the show. It was so hard to get him to travel. Before that, it was only for things like if the magazine was having like it's 50th anniversary and they want him in New York like he'd go but it was really hard to get him to leave the house. I think he gives me like mysterious bobs. I think he wears like a trench coat or something. I'm like, no. I can totally see that. Like he always tried to present himself like he was such an open book and in a way he was but in a way he was. | |
| 00:34:07 - 00:34:37 | |
| wasn't too, like he had his ways of like treating people behind closed doors, then so yeah, very mysterious. How old was he when you got in the house? 76? Super wild. Yeah. He got around good too, didn't he? Oh wait, like how do you mean? Like you guys miss that. Not well, I can't say physically because you know, you mean like, you want that? Like he's able to walk down the floor. Yeah. Yeah, no he could like walk and stuff. And like. | |
| 00:34:37 - 00:35:07 | |
| go out to nightclubs or things like that. Like he always complained about back pain and things like that. But I feel like for 75 year old he's a pretty young 75 year old. So I did care of his own. Yeah, he'd like to go shopping. Yeah, I mean, we were expected to have go out all the time. So we always wanted different outfits and stuff. And we were given like a clothing allowance of like $1000 a week. But we also really wanted to save or at least I did because you know, I'm young and I'm trying to like make a life for myself or whatever. So I'd always go like bargain shopping. Like I've... | |
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| When they first started filming the reality, show the producer was like, I know, we have to film like a Beverly Hills shopping spray. I'm like, are you gonna pay for it? That's not my budget. Like I would always try and save at least half of everything. And then I'd go shopping downtown or on Melrose or really cheap places. This smart Doug, yeah. The other girls try to save like that. I think so, I think bridge and Kendra were both pretty reasonable. It was more like when I first moved in, the girls that were already there were the ones that would go out and like spend more and like designer clothes and stuff. I'd buy a few nice things here. | |
| 00:35:37 - 00:36:07 | |
| there like a purse or whatever but I also really tried to save and like just get creative with my clothes and stuff and buy stuff that I liked but save money. Hey, you guys don't find cute stuff on a third store? Totally. Oh, well, besides one Johnny took us to the other, and I was like, what in the hell is that? Yeah, that was weird. You like that cat skirt I found? I should've, yeah, thrifting is so hit or miss. We don't really have a lot of third stores where we're from. We have a goodwill but there aren't shit in there. And you're like, it's when you come out and you're like, oh no. | |
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| You're like, okay, that's unusual. Cookie's old, verys. Cookie. Cookie. Cookie's not that old, who's cookie. Haley's secret boyfriend. Oh yeah. Give him mystery man. I got a mystery. I love having a mystery man. I'm talking to somebody right now and I'm keeping him a mystery man for as long as possible. Uh, when you we watched set podcast, which one? I was so, and there's us in there, Gagelin. Cause this girl was asking about your boyfriend. Like, oh, we broke up two weeks ago. You were so non-salon about it. All of us in there. | |
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| giggle and I was like I need to be like that yeah well it was a long time coming it was like a five-year relationship that was like really often on so by the time we finally broke up I was pretty like well adjusted about it you're like all fuck yes yeah and we're so cool and like we get along and stuff so it looks a non-dramatic breakup that's a good yeah had you like get out of it though a cotton cheating that's a pretty good excuse that is the best I think I've used that I was like all right bye | |
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| I was mad about it but I was more mad for like the person I was. Because when I found out he cheated it was like it happened like a year ago. And like the girl had been done with it for a while, and she just kind of got this, like a tack of conscience out of nowhere to tell me. So I was more like sad for myself back then because I was thinking back to that summer and like how in love I was in that summer and how like we would go on these vacations together and then like the second my back was turned to be was somebody else. So I was more like mad about that, but I had been kicking myself in that as to, you know. But I bet it was like a relief. | |
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| that when you got rid of him. Yeah, I mean, I'm super, super busy, so honestly like making time for a relationship, even if it's like driving 20 minutes to go to his house, like, it kind of frees up some time to be real. Yeah. We can start reading your book or- Yeah. Yeah. Again, I can see no man. But you got a name man there, right? Talk into somebody. How's it going? We're still in the talking stage. Woo. We'll be about it for now. Good deal. You got babies, too, don't you? I do. I have an 11 year old and an eight year old. Oh. Yeah. Boys and girls. Girl, I don't know. | |
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| Oh, you're getting the best of both words. Yeah, they're awesome. They're like such perfect kids. I don't know how I got so lucky. Like I don't have any drama with them. Just trying to get them to their home work is like the most dramatic thing. That is definitely a hassle. I hate to do a home work. Um, don't think I don't have to come. Yeah. I get there in class and I'm like, you're beautiful. It comes in handy, having a normal life, like when they're a kid. Like you just get to worry about being a kid. You don't have to worry about nothing else. I think so, too. Like, I'm so grateful. I grew up in Alaska and it was just a lot of like playing. | |
| 00:38:37 - 00:39:07 | |
| was there, it was more like drama. And it was a lot of competition, and a lot of weird rules, like you couldn't leave the house after nine o'clock and things like that. So it got really depressing for me. So it was more like that kind of a thing. I felt safe inside the mansion. Like, there was security and it was a gated property and things like that. So I didn't feel like I was in danger of being murdered or anything. Well that's good. I don't remember saying it. So start. I know you could have, like a few girlfriends where you had to have like a boyfriend or anything. Yeah. | |
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| the woods and things like that. So you grew up in Alaska. Yeah, I lived in a childhood like. It was very, very isolated. We lived in South East Alaska. And by the time I was in kindergarten, we lived in a town, a really, really small town. But before that, we would live in like logging camps. And sometimes didn't even have running waters. It was very little house on the prairie. And then by the time I was 10, we moved to Oregon, which I didn't like as well. That was very, very normal. But like I missed being in Alaska. I missed being in nature and being in this really small town. | |
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| mall town where everybody, but I was like undiagnosed autistic to you. So I had a little bit of difficulty relating to people and connecting with people and somehow like being in a really, really small town just was so much more less judgmental and being with the same people in my whole life was really helpful. So when do you get diagnosed? Just last summer. Really? How did you diagnose it? Well, you have to do I did mine over Zayn and my finally found a doctor that did exist really hard to find a doctor that will do it for all. | |
| 00:40:07 - 00:40:37 | |
| And we did like seven different sessions over Zoom. And they do all kinds of tests on you. And the test are interesting. It's everything from questions to the show. You'll picture like people's eyes. And you have to tell them what expression you think it is. Because sometimes being on the spectrum, we have a really hard time like reading people's faces. And they would do things like they would didn't appointment with my ex husband and appointment with my mom to get their breakdown on how they had experiences interacting with me or what they observed in my childhood. | |
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| being married to me so does it affect your daily life or anything? I felt like it did but I didn't really understand it. I always thought that there was something little off with me like I didn't understand why I was so introverted or why I would have trouble interacting with people. I just always thought, well okay I'm like different in some way and I didn't really get it. But now that I understand what's going on, it helps a lot and I feel like I can adjust my behaviors and kind of like oh | |
| 00:41:07 - 00:41:37 | |
| come. What's going on? Like throughout my whole life they would say like oh make eye contact and I know that's something I was supposed to do but I never really did it until I got my nose. Yeah yeah that's crazy. For me you know I it wasn't a conclusion I came to it was something that when I was getting a divorce a few years ago my ex has been was talking to my mom about it about just some of my behaviors and things and she said that she always suspected I was on the spectrum. She used the term as purger so which isn't like a term people like to use anymore but it's term for like high functioning autism. | |
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| And then I looked online and was looking at what the symptoms were and I thought this sounds exactly like me. So I became more and more intrigued. And I started talking about it a little bit because when I would share my story and interviews, I would look back on choices I made when I was younger and knowing what I know now about being on the spectrum those choices make a lot more sense. And I'm trying to blame my choices on being autistic. But it makes sense that I would feel like I can bond and be in love with an older person who's really... | |
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| good at like manipulating and working people because when I was younger I felt like I never connected to guys my age at all so I always felt like oh people don't like me or there's something wrong with me and now I finally met this man that understands me you know but looking back I think it's just I wasn't connecting because neurologically I'm a little bit different that's okay though but once I start talking about that I thought I really need to get a diagnosis because it's not really responsible I think for me to be going out and talking about I'm not putting down people who are self | |
| 00:42:37 - 00:43:07 | |
| diagnosed because like I said, it's hard to find somebody who actually does a diagnosis and I'm somebody who has money and resources and things and it's hard for me to find somebody. So I'm not putting down self-diagnosis, but I thought for me if I'm really out here talking about it, I should really get a diagnosis and see what's up. Yeah, if you get like medicine or anything for it? No, I mean not for me that wasn't a treatment, I take will be trend for depression and pretty open about that. Yeah. I think more people should be open about that. Oh, I think so. | |
| 00:43:07 - 00:43:37 | |
| to. I'm all about talking about mental health. Like I remember not so long ago, just a couple of decades ago, it was so stigmatized or I remember like ten years ago as dating this asshole guy and I broke up with him and I was messaging him to get some of my stuff back and he had this new girlfriend who was really jealous and getting into his phone and she was like writing me this really mean text like slamming me and she's like, because when we broke up it was like a public break up so we had said it was because our schedules are different so yeah what you say when | |
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| and you're just trying to be neutral, not this guy's of raging asshole, but this girl, has new girlfriend, like sent me this long text, like slamming me, and then she's like, and I know why you really broke up, it's because you're on anti-depressants. At the time, I wasn't even on them. I had told him, I'd confided him that I had been at one time, and that wasn't why we broke up, but that's like him going out and shit talking and trying to make me sound like I'm crazy, like I was on anti-depressants at one point. Like fuck right off. | |
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| No, no, that was totally against the rules. A lot, most of the girls did though. I think Bridget and I were the only ones who didn't, we just weren't interested in dating around, but everybody else kind of did on the side and kept it on the download. I wouldn't tell him. Yeah, but he would get pissed, we found out. Like there was right before I moved in, there was a girl who's having sex with one of the buttlers, on the couch, that was like, there was this living room that would turn into a movie theater, like the big screen would come down from the ceiling. And there was this like tiger print couch behind it she was having sex with this buttler on the couch right now. | |
| 00:44:37 - 00:45:07 | |
| So I love talking about it. I'm actually gonna put you down over that. Like I was a shut up to our house with like, I saw what they rock in it and I just went to town and I was gonna ask about that. It's just insecurity. That's all it is, girl shouldn't be like that at all. I hope she listens to this and she's like, oops. Maybe she'll send you like a letter in the apologize. I mean, I hope so, hopefully she's grown up. Probably a senior brought up pale in one of the recent podcasts. I did. That was really sweet. That was sweet. I saw the bill Mar interview and I thought, you know. | |
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| I know for you how new this all is and how intimidating interviews can be. And I just thought it was interesting how his immediate idea for you was to do a sex podcast, which if you wanted to do that, absolutely nothing wrong with that. But I think it's interesting how your viral moment happened to be a funny comment that was related to sex, but because you're a woman, it's like people automatically are like, well you should do only fans or you should do a sex podcast. But your comment was- | |
| 00:45:37 - 00:46:07 | |
| So normal, it was just such normal girl talk. And I feel like if a guy would have had a viral moment over that, people would have been like, oh, you're so fucking funny, you should stand that. But I'm a girl. He was like only fans and sex podcasts. So I just thought that was like an interesting conclusion to come to you. And I think I just think he could have kept in mind a little bit how much older he is than you and been a little more chill in my opinion. He used to make jokes about me being a horror back in the play boy days. So that was a lot of fun. Did he ever go to the mansion? All the time. | |
| 00:46:07 - 00:46:37 | |
| In fact, we choke about it on our podcast because we do a rewatch podcast about girls next door and every time they show a party montage They're like they'll have one of us comment in the confessional. There were so many celebrities there And they always kind of show the same people and it's always like billmar and pair of sultan or the two that always show But we just start joking that like nobody's gone to his IMDP IMDB and like entered it But if you entered all his guest spots on girls next door, it might rival like his other catalog of stuff because it was a lot I feel like such a | |
| 00:46:37 - 00:47:07 | |
| dumb ass like after I talked to him nobody told me he like younger girls. I tried to hook him up with my granny No, I like looked at me like I was fucking crazy What happened? I was talking to him and I remember him saying like, oh, if you know anything about me And I'm thinking what that you're so fucking cool you'll need eight twenty year olds Exactly, and I was like what does he mean by that? I was like what's he got against granny? What's wrong with your name? You know little did I know he likes younger women? Yeah, yeah and then like I had no idea who I was going to talk to. He was like, yeah, it's bill more How do you say it's a more mayor? | |
| 00:47:07 - 00:47:37 | |
| more. More. It was like, no, okay, this whole remain we're gonna hit it off because I blend in really good with all the guaminal. And I live in my granny. I get their a picture of me for a spin. I wasn't ready for that. Well, you know what you handled it so well though. You were so composed and so chill and didn't say anything regrettable. So congratulations. I tried to ask, fight and name is not to hit that join. He had it. It's like you wanted something. And then you gave me a history lecture. | |
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| I hated history in high school. So I was like, all right, wrap it up Bill. Wrap it up. And it was just me and him and his main cave. Like, I couldn't see anybody else, and I was like, oh, well, I guess I could stare at the floor for a minute. Yeah, it's the worst when interviews get awkward because they're long-form. Like, I remember back in the day when I used to promote stuff it would be like 15 minutes max. You'd go somewhere. And then, but now it's like, if you get stuck in an awkward interview, forget it. Yeah, you're done for you. Just guess if they're in listen to it. Guys, quicker monitor. Talk to us, brought to you by better picks. Better picks offers it easier. | |
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| do these things called radio tours. I don't know if these are still things I refuse to do them for so long. But you're getting up at like three in the morning because you have to do the east coast feeds so you're tired and you're drinking your coffee and you're trying to be like excited to promote your show and they patch you into different radio stations across the country like every 10 minutes or every 10 minutes or so. And every radio host wants to be Howard Stern so bad but they're not as funny and they're not as good at interviewing and when you're like a girl who's dating an old man and you live at the Playboy Man. | |
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| and you're promoting your like nude magazine issue. Like the questions are so bad and I feel like I got really good at answering them and, you know, being funny and doing it a way that I thought, have fun playboy would like and whatever, but it was still pretty miserable and very uncomfortable. So I hated doing press for the longest time, hated, hated, hated. But that's something you feel like you had to do that to get bar. That's how you got into it. So I get that. I don't see any reason as to why somebody could judge you for it. | |
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| so that was a big drama and scandal and then none of the girlfriends were allowed to like fraternize with the butlers after that like we weren't still so like hang out in the pantry or like talk to them too much, that happened if he did find out though. People will get kicked out and when I first moved in I would see people like somebody left to go like visit their family but then another girl routed the mountain so no she's really seeing a boyfriend so all her stuff in a room just got packed up in boxes and like sent out the bat gay and like wasn't allowed in it was like this big like shameful drama. | |
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| you're trying to get back it's crazy especially if I'm coming to the plate like trying to have a sense of humor about it like they could just roll with that But instead I've had a few interviews that have made me kind of uncomfortable. Do you remember the Australian one? Yeah, we cut it in the middle of the interview. We just close the laptop What were these these we prepped in by the way on what not to do? Go ahead. Hey, he had no deal They weren't supposed to ask me anything like Just provocative. Yeah, this man looks at me. We were in our hotel room and I was on the computer house having such a good time | |
| 00:50:37 - 00:51:07 | |
| when so kind, and then you have this man. He goes, so how many dicks would you say you spit on? I was like, Jimmy said, oh fuck, how are you jumping up? Oh my god. Yeah, it's really crazy how people think, you know? But just because I cracked a joke, like... Yeah, I think it's like a normal joke, like people talk like that. It's normal. It doesn't mean you're like promiscuous. Or you have to be a sex expert, or you're like, when they think you have to talk about for the rest of your life. It's just so crazy how people react. Things are really change. Like you went from playboy and now we have only fans. It's such a twist. It's so crazy. That was going to stay like when you got the playboy off. | |
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| for what even is playboy now, is that like, only fans? A said that it would be fully closed, and what it was. I don't know, but still. I feel like there was like a catch to it though. So I was like, no, because like, I like the playboy brand, like the yellow was like sweatpants and the hoodie says like yeah, and I got to think and I was like, hmm, there's probably a catch that I better not. Yeah, and it's hard to be because sometimes even if you're doing stuff that's not nude, people will see the brand and there's like a stigma to it. So it just depends on like how you want to be perceived. | |
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| and things like that. Just like fan fix. I do fan fix, and everybody's like, oh, you sold your solders over to the devil. That's only fan direct there. No, it's not. I'm not making. I posted a, like a lingerie picture on my Instagram, the other day, and somebody left a comment, like you're still selling your body. I'm like, I don't know money, my phone's. I don't mind, what's it to you? If that's what you wanted to do, and what you want to post. I know. What's it to anybody else? It's so funny. And I like, I went to go click their account to perhaps block, and it's one of those accounts where they, like, obviously made the account just. | |
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| they can make that comment and it's like a flattery at this point. You know they live in their parents basement. I have a lot of those, they're like, you're ugly. Click on there account, you're like, I was just I follow back in their profile pictures of cat. Like an anime character. Like, okay. You live in their parents basement and you're like 50. I don't understand people sometimes. Like keep your negative stuff to yourself. I know, so like nobody with anything going on is leaving those comments. Exactly. They're miserable with their own knobs. Totally. You're a few interesting DMs haven't you. | |
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| Yeah, those ones are I don't even like reading them out loud Can you do a couple just for fun? You want to read it out loud? I can read it Oh, no, let him let her read the one you said if I read this read I have so it's gonna be and the past week so I get like those group chat DMs and like I have like funny names on them I'll over and you request that like on the other way. Yeah, and so I'm intrigued bomb because of the names and I'm like okay Okay, that's kind of funny. Oh I can't read that I'm fine. I can't read that I'm fine. That is so Nick | |
| 00:53:07 - 00:53:37 | |
| of women, fraud, eagle, and my DMs, in the last two weeks. Like, I mean, fraud, eagle. You know, it's funny when my girlfriends would tell me the wild shit that guys say to them in my head, I would just be like, I don't know about that. You know what I mean? Like you just kind of making it dramatic for the story to be good. I don't know anyone who talks like that. Turns out everyone fucking talks like that. After seeing both of their DMs, it's actually, I kind of hate, I think you should really want it's really bad. | |
| 00:53:37 - 00:54:07 | |
| It's really good. It doesn't even wanna read it. There's a guy who like pays to send me messages on cameo where he's just like talking sexual stuff and I'm like keep sending him. Yeah, I'm not gonna engage, but if you want. The catch to the one like that DM me, it was his girlfriend's nude. I guess she sent to him. But he sent him to me. He said, this is my girlfriend, and I want to send this to you. That's poor form. Like how you gonna send your girlfriend's Coder over here to me. I don't wanna say it. That's yours. Keep it to yourself. | |
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| Well, why are you doing her like that, you know? Yeah, that's bad news etiquette, you can never show. The only one you get, how much did that guy ask us for a 30 like 60k? That's cheap! No thank you! Yeah, I don't think you're spawned that, did you? What would I say to that? Excuse me, sir, we said four next time. No, we're at price, please. Exactly, that's what I was saying, I don't know, that's all more cheap, buddy. I hadn't only fans for a while during the pandemic, yeah, it wasn't new to anything. I was just like the Kineen line. | |
| 00:54:37 - 00:55:07 | |
| jury pictures. But I got to a point where I wasn't really comfortable with it because the kind of like the captions people want to write for you or like the account manager wants to write for you to like get people to click or start in a good kind of embarrassing and stuff like that. So I stop doing it. But I think it's great that people can now like control their on images and make their own money. I just think for anybody trying to get into that business, they should always keep in mind that like the photos are probably going to leak. I've actually only fans is a little bit better than playboy because y'all can. | |
| 00:55:07 - 00:55:37 | |
| you know, in that community, and it was like she's gonna get like DNAd, which stands for do not admit, but I didn't know that because I was brand new, and I was like DNAd. Are they swapping her DNA? Yeah, that's what I'm doing with it. So it just seems so, like I was 22 when I moved in there, and everything just seems so dramatic and crazy. And then I got to the point where I was kind of terrified of like being kicked out at any moment, because I didn't really have anywhere to go in LA. So it was just a whole war win. And I'm gonna get into asking this because I would have been like all the girls like stuck together. | |
| 00:55:37 - 00:56:07 | |
| and have like a say so in this and that and other, but only fans you can post this. You can take that down if you want to. It'll probably still be somewhere, but you can take it down. Yeah, you're running yourself. Trouble of it. How long did you do it for? I had it up for two years too. Yeah. If I could do like feet fondant. I've had a lot of people ask me for tow pictures. I read something somewhere where there's something in the brain where for some people, it's like feet almost get confused with genitals. And this is like one of those fun. | |
| 00:56:07 - 00:56:37 | |
| facts like you'll stupid repeating saying no I'm not saying it right so somebody at home looked at up so are you dating anybody that is I wouldn't say dating talking to somebody that's like a how can I put it in the public arm yeah in the public arm probably probably probably yeah yeah didn't she used to date Chris Angel yeah okay you rolled your eyes I apologize for what I'm about to ask cause I have actually kind of a Chris Angel I think magic's kind of cool um magic yeah he's a legitimate a famous man she used to date like the most famous magician in the world basically or what if | |
| 00:56:37 - 00:57:07 | |
| the most famous magicians? Did he ever pull you like flowers out of his coat or anything? Yeah, one, no, like what kind of cool shit did he do for his girlfriends with the magic? Like does he like make like bunny rabbits appear or like does he do tricks for you? For you or no? No, with magic, lots of jewelry and stuff. What's the fun in that? Yeah, is there any like fun traits secrets we can know about the... I do know how all the tricks are done but I don't wanna say cause I feel bad. Even though like I know people have like revealed it before like I know a lot of magicians and stuff. Like you know that. When I was at slow already poker, this little guy that set bot. | |
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| He was French. He was so cute. Did I should have drug him hung with me, I would have paid him just like I'm using me throughout the day. Dude, don't tell God, you have a problem by the way with telling short guys how adorable they are, they hate that. Oh, okay. Just so you know. They are cute. If they're like, I'll level him in like, oh, I just want to like give him a little pet on the hit or I know you're something. You ruined their week every time you do that, just saying, you know. I think there's nothing wrong with a short guy. And I get kind of weirded out when, do you ever see like TikToks, or girls are like freaking out and they're like, I guess I would never date a guy under this thing. | |
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| I'm like calm down like guys can't help it like that would be like a good for guy Was saying I would never do you to girl list and see cup like people like your fucking gross Exactly, I thought it's kind of like the same thing though because like women are like, oh, I won't date a short guy Then you got most guys are like I don't like tall girls Yeah, like if that's your preference whatever but like you never know who you're gonna meet and connect with and like Don't be a dick about it online. I love tall women like hasten My best friend sister. She's like tall | |
| 00:58:07 - 00:58:37 | |
| I was all get out, I fucking love her. Like I don't imagine her being like any shorter than that. Yeah. I thought she'd look strange if she was being shorter. And it's like a big sister. Well when I was growing up, every girl wanted to be talks. That meant you could be a model. Exactly. That was the myth anyway. But now my ex-boyfriend, he's a little bit shorter but less as hard. He would get so mad at me if I were, he was. No. One was, it was it, junior, is it? There's strong? It was one of our problems. I think it was my junior problem. I wore heels and I was like maybe this much taller than him. He had a suit. | |
| 00:58:37 - 00:59:07 | |
| It's like take them off. I was like, no, no. The pictures did look awkward though. I was like, hey, you're gonna have to like, scrouse. I was surprised. I could have so mad about that, bliss is alright. So you have a podcast with your friend that was in the house the right? Yeah, I do. Me and Bridget, who's on girls next door with me. We do a rewatch podcast where we talk about all the episodes of the show. And of course every time we watch an episode, we think of like 50 crazy stories that happen. So we have a lot of fun with it. Did you ever wear water braels or am I crazy? Why? | |
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| Had her bras know we didn't have water bras when I was like in high school, I had like a wonder bra, and I stuffed it. And even when I got my first boyfriend, I wouldn't really make out with him for so long, so I'm like, I have to like slowly take the bra down before he discovers the deception. And then by the time I was in the mansion, I had my boobs done, so I didn't need like any kind of like patting or anything like that. Did he like recommend everybody having their boobs done? I had mine done before. He didn't recommend it like sometimes if there was like a playmate that came along that test... | |
| 00:59:37 - 01:00:07 | |
| He might say something like, oh, you know, she could make it if she had her boobs done. He tried to do that once when I worked at the studio and I'm like, I don't think you should really do that. Yeah, how are you when you get him done? Yeah, it does. You know, you wake up and you feel like an elephant is sitting on your chest but It's not awful. Look, I'm pretty high ping tolerance and I was kind of back up and doing things in a couple days. I wonder if I could go through that, I need a but actually, I don't know if I look right if I had enough. We had to be careful with the DBLs. Yeah, yeah. | |
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| I can't picture you with that. I can't picture me with the one either. I just think it looked funny. Yes, I'm just the BBL doesn't look like it fits on the body. Like there's no flow between the button, the thighs, sometimes. Yeah. I'm just a little flat girl. I don't think I'd look right in the other way. Yeah, I also think natural's coming back. Like I just know, as a guy and all my friends, when we see, I don't know, maybe like five, six years ago, if we saw a group of girls with BBL's walking to a restaurant, we'd all be like, how holy shit. Look at that. Now when we see that right, oh my god again another video. | |