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interviewee: tove schöbaum bamberger |
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rg_number: rg-50.030.0014 |
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gender: f |
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birth_date: 1934-10-08 |
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birth_year: 1934.0 |
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place_of_birth: copenhagen |
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country: denmark |
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experience_group: survivor |
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data_entry: cl |
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accession: 1989.a.0362 |
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layout: transcript |
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interviewee: tove schöbaum bamberger |
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rg_number: rg-50.030.0014 |
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pdf_url: https://collections.ushmm.org/oh_findingaids/rg-50.030.0014_trs_en.pdf |
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ushmm_url: https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn504451 |
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gender: f |
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birth_date: 1934-10-08 |
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birth_year: 1934.0 |
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place_of_birth: copenhagen |
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country: denmark |
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experience_group: survivor |
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ghetto(s)_encyclopedia: none |
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ghetto: none |
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camp(s)_encyclopedia: none |
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camp: none |
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non_ss_camp: none |
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region: none |
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needs_research: none |
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data_entry: cl |
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accession: 1989.a.0362 |
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revisit: none |
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tags: transcripts |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="1">Q: Would you tell me your name please?</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="3">A: Yes. [</sentence><sentence id="4">am <span class="BUILDING">Tove Bamberger</span>.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="7">Q: Where were your born?</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="9">A: I was born in Copenhagen.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="11">Q: When?</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="13">A: October 8, 1934.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="15">Q: Tell me about your family, your parents.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="17">A: Well, I have a mother and sister, one sister.</sentence><sentence id="18">Mother and father and one sister.</sentence><sentence id="19">She is five years older than me.</sentence><sentence id="20">She leaves in <span class="POPULATED_PLACE" lat="55.6694544" long="12.5893558">Copenhagen</span> still.</sentence><sentence id="21">She is married.</sentence><sentence id="22">She has two children.</sentence><sentence id="23">And | lived there until I got married.</sentence><sentence id="24">Then we moved to <span class="COUNTRY">America</span>.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="33">Q: Tell me about when you were very little, growing up.</sentence><sentence id="34">What was it like to be a little child in that family in Copenhagen.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="37">A: Well, I have very pleasant memories.</sentence><sentence id="38">I remember, well I was very young, and I remember when the Germans came--</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="41">Q: Let's do before.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="43">A: Before the Germans came?</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="45">Q: Let's back up.</sentence><sentence id="46">You were very little.</sentence><sentence id="47">You were a child.</sentence><sentence id="48">What did your father do?</sentence><sentence id="49">What was his <span class="BUILDING">business</span>?</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="55">A: My father had a business, men's clothing business, on the main <span class="DLF">street</span> in <span class="COUNTRY" lat="55.6694544" long="12.5893558">Copenhagen</span>.</sentence><sentence id="56">We were -- he was -- we were what you call pretty well-to-do.</sentence><sentence id="57">And, my mother didn't work, and I was little and my sister I think she was in <span class="BUILDING">school</span>.</sentence><sentence id="58">Yeah, we were both young.</sentence><sentence id="59">It was a very pleasant life.</sentence><sentence id="60">We had a maid.</sentence><sentence id="61">We lived in an <span class="INT_SPACE">apartment</span> and I just have very good memories.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="69">Q: Tell me, did you have lots of friends?</sentence><sentence id="70">What did you do?</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="73">A: Well.... You talking about before the war?</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="81">Q: Uh-huh.</sentence><sentence id="82">Yes.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="85">A: I was just four years old.</sentence><sentence id="86">I don't -- I just remember going downstairs and playing with a <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">tricycle</span> on the <span class="DLF">street</span>.</sentence><sentence id="87">People weren't afraid of letting the children out alone, and I have only good memories.</sentence><sentence id="88">I don't remember the other friends.</sentence><sentence id="89">It is a long time ago, but just pleasant memories.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="95">Q: What do you remember of when the Germans came?</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="97">A: Well, I know that my uncle called up -- my, my mother's brother called us up.</sentence><sentence id="98">I remember that.</sentence><sentence id="99">And he said, "Go downstairs on the <span class="DLF">street</span> and look up in the <span class="DLF">sky</span>.</sentence><sentence id="100">The Germans are invading <span class="COUNTRY">Denmark</span>."</sentence><sentence id="101">And I remember very -- like it was yesterday going down with my father and my mother and my sister looking up and all of a sudden seeing <span class="DLF">sky</span> was full of black <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">airplanes</span>.</sentence><sentence id="102">That was April 9, 1940 -- 1940, April 9th, and the Germans were coming and -- like a little kid was excitement.</sentence><sentence id="103">I didn't realize what will happen.</sentence><sentence id="104">And the Danes fought for, I think, two hours and then they were occupied.</sentence><sentence id="105">They were taken over.</sentence><sentence id="106"><span class="COUNTRY">Denmark</span> is a small <span class="COUNTRY">country</span>.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="117">Q: Was there any change in your life once the Germans occupied?</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="119">A: Not that I can remember.</sentence><sentence id="120">No.</sentence><sentence id="121"><span class="COUNTRY">Denmark</span> went on as usual.</sentence><sentence id="122">Nothing happened to the Danes or the Jews and <span class="COUNTRY">Germany</span> was sort of a friendly takeover.</sentence><sentence id="123">The Danes cooperated.</sentence><sentence id="124">The police was still -- I mean they hated the Germans, but they didn't, you know they didn't fight them because there was still Danish police stay -- still stayed for few years.</sentence><sentence id="125">And the government stayed.</sentence><sentence id="126">It was really like sort of a benign takeover for a few years.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="135">Q: Did you go to <span class="BUILDING">school</span>?</sentence><sentence id="136">By that time you would be six?</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="139">A: Yeah.</sentence><sentence id="140">I went to first grade.</sentence><sentence id="141">I went to <span class="BUILDING">Jewish school</span>.</sentence><sentence id="142">Carolineskolen, it was called.</sentence><sentence id="143">I think I went to first grade and second grade before we fled.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="149">Q: Tell me about it.</sentence><sentence id="150">Tell me about that <span class="BUILDING">school</span>.</sentence><sentence id="151">What was it like?</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="155">A: It was only Jewish.</sentence><sentence id="156">We were girls and boys in the class.</sentence><sentence id="157">And I liked it.</sentence><sentence id="158">It was a nice <span class="BUILDING">school</span>.</sentence><sentence id="159">I just, I just remember now that it was Chanukah time.</sentence><sentence id="160">I remember learning the "Ma'oz Tzur"!in class.</sentence><sentence id="161">And I remember just one instance that -- you know, although we weren't religious, but it was still when you sat in <span class="COUNTRY">Denmark</span> in those days, you had to sit with your hands folded like when you were quiet.</sentence><sentence id="162">But being it was a <span class="BUILDING">Jewish school</span> and we shouldn't make a cross, "Ma'oz Tzur Yeshu'ati [Stronghold and Rock of My Salvation] (Hebrew); popular Chanukah song.</sentence><sentence id="165">we sat with our hands without, without folding them, like this.</sentence><sentence id="166">It was just a, a little memory, but it was interesting.</sentence><sentence id="167">And we went to <span class="BUILDING">school</span>, I think it was from eight to two, like all other <span class="BUILDING">schools</span>.</sentence><sentence id="168">And I don't know if we learned Hebrew.</sentence><sentence id="169"><span class="COUNTRY">Denmark</span> is really not a religious -- even the Jews weren't religious in those days, but it was a <span class="BUILDING">Jewish school</span>.</sentence><sentence id="170">I, I remember some of my friends.</sentence><sentence id="171">I remember one friend from the class kept saying -- this was only in like 1941 or "42 -- that she heard rumors that the Germans were going to do something to the Jews.</sentence><sentence id="172">But that was like a year before it really happened that there were big <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">boats</span> waiting in the <span class="DLF">harbor</span> to take the Jews.</sentence><sentence id="173">But we sort of didn't believe her.</sentence><sentence id="174">It proved to be right in the long run, but this was like a year before.</sentence><sentence id="175">One of my classmates--</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="201">Q: What was your impression, as a child, of the Germans?</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="203">A: Well, nothing at all oppressive.</sentence><sentence id="204">I have no -- we didn't know what was going on the world and the Germans did nothing to the Jews.</sentence><sentence id="205">My father had an open <span class="BUILDING">store</span> with our name.</sentence><sentence id="206">My maiden name is Schonbaum, which is sort of Jewish or German.</sentence><sentence id="207">And he had a, you know, <span class="BUILDING">store</span> with his name on and it was going on, and nothing at all happened to the Jews.</sentence><sentence id="208">We went to <span class="BUILDING">Jewish schools</span>.</sentence><sentence id="209">All, all <span class="BUILDING">Christian schools</span>, whatever <span class="BUILDING">public schools</span>, whatever.</sentence><sentence id="210">I mean maybe because I was so young.</sentence><sentence id="211">Maybe my husband has different memories, but I don't remember anything negative at all about the occupation.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="221">Q: What did you and your friends do to play, say after <span class="BUILDING">school</span>?</sentence><sentence id="222">Did you go to <span class="BUILDING">ballet lessons</span>?</sentence><sentence id="223">Did you take piano lessons?</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="227">A: I did, yeah.</sentence><sentence id="228">But I don't know now if I am thinking if it was after we came back from <span class="COUNTRY">Sweden</span> or before.</sentence><sentence id="229">But I did a lot.</sentence><sentence id="230">I went to tap dancing, acrobatics -- yes, acrobatics in Danish.</sentence><sentence id="231">I took dancing lessons after <span class="BUILDING">school</span>.</sentence><sentence id="232">We went skiing.</sentence><sentence id="233">You know there are not that many hills in <span class="COUNTRY">Denmark</span>, but we went with a <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">train</span>.</sentence><sentence id="234">We went to small <span class="ENV_FEATURES">hills</span>.</sentence><sentence id="235">I had a very good childhood.</sentence><sentence id="236">I played tennis.</sentence><sentence id="237">My father was an avid tennis player so we would always rent <span class="BUILDING">houses</span> at the <span class="DLF">beach</span> where there were <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">tennis courts</span>.</sentence><sentence id="238">And we always had a maid and I just remember everything as being very pleasant and nice.</sentence><sentence id="239">Some of the memories are, I am sure, from when we came back, because you have to remember I was young when we fled.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="253">Q: When did you get a sense of something changing?</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="255">A: Only the day we heard that we shouldn't go <span class="BUILDING">home</span> that night.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="257">Q: Tell me what happened.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="259">A: Well, we were told, I think it came from the <span class="BUILDING">synagogue</span>, from the Rabbi.</sentence><sentence id="260">He had heard that the Germans were going to round up the Jews.</sentence><sentence id="261">It was on a Friday night and we shouldn't --</sentence><sentence id="263">none of us should go <span class="BUILDING">home</span> to our <span class="INT_SPACE">apartments</span> or <span class="BUILDING">houses</span>.</sentence><sentence id="264">And I remember we had a maid and she just took care of the <span class="INT_SPACE">apartment</span>.</sentence><sentence id="265">She stayed <span class="BUILDING">home</span>, and we went.</sentence><sentence id="266">I remember, my father, mother, sister and I and an uncle who was married to a non-Jew, he also wanted to flee with us, and his wife stayed <span class="BUILDING">home</span> -- stayed in their <span class="INT_SPACE">apartment</span> because they wouldn't -- they weren't going to touch, touch the non-Jews.</sentence><sentence id="267">So the five of us -- 1 remember, I -- we put on two, two dresses and a toothbrush in the pocket.</sentence><sentence id="268">That's all we fled with.</sentence><sentence id="269">And we went and....Would you like to hear about how we fled?</sentence><sentence id="270">We went to the <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">train</span>.</sentence><sentence id="271">No.</sentence><sentence id="272">First -- I remember -- first, we knew it would cost to flee.</sentence><sentence id="273">We would have to pay.</sentence><sentence id="274">We knew that fisherman were going to charge about 2,000 crowns a head.</sentence><sentence id="275">That's what we were told.</sentence><sentence id="276">So my father took a <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">cab</span>.</sentence><sentence id="277">On the same day in <span class="POPULATED_PLACE" lat="55.6694544" long="12.5893558">Copenhagen</span> he went to the <span class="BUILDING">bank</span> and he took money out and I remember he brought my mother also.</sentence><sentence id="278">We were told that we shouldn't take money to <span class="COUNTRY">Sweden</span> because we weren't going to use them.</sentence><sentence id="279">And he bought a bracelet, as a matter of fact, for my mother.</sentence><sentence id="280">And when I was 50, she sent me -- she send it to me.</sentence><sentence id="281">And this is the one that she sent me.</sentence><sentence id="282">And that is what he bought and I saw it had gotten smaller, narrower, but I thought maybe as a child I remember it as being bigger.</sentence><sentence id="283">But now that my mother passed away two years ago and I inherit the other bracelet which is exactly the same, but just much wider.</sentence><sentence id="284">I have that at <span class="BUILDING">home</span>.</sentence><sentence id="285">But I remember that.</sentence><sentence id="286">He went to the <span class="BUILDING">bank</span>, took the money, bought bracelet for my mother and the rest of the money he took in his pocket to pay the fisherman.</sentence><sentence id="287">And then he went <span class="BUILDING">home</span> and we all got dressed and like I said, we had two dresses on.</sentence><sentence id="288">It was October so I guess a coat you would wear.</sentence><sentence id="289">Remember was two dresses instead of one.</sentence><sentence id="290">And my father probably had two suits.</sentence><sentence id="291">That I don't remember, but my sister and I had two dresses on and a -- we each had a toothbrush.</sentence><sentence id="292">We bought new toothbrushes and put in our pockets and then we went to the <span class="BUILDING">train station</span>.</sentence><sentence id="293">And strangely enough, nobody stopped us.</sentence><sentence id="294">Not the Germans either.</sentence><sentence id="295">I mean you could see people coming out on the <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">train</span> and there was no, no, no--nobody stopped us and we went up from <span class="POPULATED_PLACE" lat="55.6694544" long="12.5893558">Copenhagen</span> to <span class="POPULATED_PLACE">Snekkersten</span>, which is a place that's closest at the <span class="DLF">seashore</span> to <span class="COUNTRY">Sweden</span>.</sentence><sentence id="296">I mean, my father took care of everything.</sentence><sentence id="297">We were kids.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="340">Q: Sure.</sentence><sentence id="341">What do you remember of that <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">train</span> ride?</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="344">A: I remember sitting there and being a little scared, but I didn't really know what being scared meant because we hadn't experienced anything bad.</sentence><sentence id="345">So it was a little bit of an excitement for me.</sentence><sentence id="346">And I also think we did have one suitcase along, but I am not 100 percent sure.</sentence><sentence id="347">But I just knew that nobody stopped us.</sentence><sentence id="348">Nobody came over and there were no Germans on the <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">train</span> to inspect it.</sentence><sentence id="349">Later on, you see all these stories of people being asked to show passports.</sentence><sentence id="350">It wasn't -- didn't happen.</sentence><sentence id="351">The only thing that happened was, while we were away that they would -- they came to our <span class="INT_SPACE">apartment</span> to ask for us.</sentence><sentence id="352">That I know and I know that our maid said when she opened the <span class="DLF">door</span>.</sentence><sentence id="353">They knocked, Friday night, on the <span class="DLF">door</span>.</sentence><sentence id="354">We weren't <span class="BUILDING">home</span>.</sentence><sentence id="355">This is just what we heard.</sentence><sentence id="356">They knocked on everybody's <span class="DLF">door</span>.</sentence><sentence id="357">They had a list from the <span class="BUILDING">synagogue</span> about all the Jews, where we lived and she said -- when she opened and asked for us, she said, "They wouldn't be so stupid to stay <span class="BUILDING">home</span>."</sentence><sentence id="358">And she just closed the <span class="DLF">door</span>.</sentence><sentence id="359">They didn't go in.</sentence><sentence id="360">They didn't -- maybe they went in to look, but they didn't take anything from the</sentence><sentence id="362"><span class="INT_SPACE">apartment</span>.</sentence><sentence id="363">They left everything intact.</sentence><sentence id="364">And as a matter of fact, I don't know if I am wondering if I should continue.</sentence><sentence id="365">My father had bought a <span class="BUILDING">house</span>.</sentence><sentence id="366">We lived in an <span class="INT_SPACE">apartment</span> in the <span class="POPULATED_PLACE">suburb</span> of <span class="COUNTRY">Denmark</span> [<span class="POPULATED_PLACE" lat="55.6694544" long="12.5893558">Copenhagen</span>], and he had bought a <span class="BUILDING">house</span> meanwhile.</sentence><sentence id="367">But we didn't get to move into it and when, when we came back from <span class="COUNTRY">Sweden</span>, we moved into the <span class="BUILDING">house</span>.</sentence><sentence id="368">It was furnished and everything and he rented it out to a woman before we left, and that woman married a German soldier or Kommandant."</sentence><sentence id="369">So when we came <span class="BUILDING">home</span> from <span class="COUNTRY">Sweden</span> -- my memories are coming back now -- there were Hitler's picture all over the <span class="DLF">wall</span>.</sentence><sentence id="370">And the movers were, you know, like the Danish movers, they kicked and it was like they kicked all the pictures down from the <span class="DLF">wall</span> and you know they were very angry.</sentence><sentence id="371">But otherwise the <span class="BUILDING">house</span> was standing and, you know, a lot of <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">furniture</span> was there and then we moved into when we came back from <span class="COUNTRY">Sweden</span>.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="402">Q: Okay.</sentence><sentence id="403">Let's go back to the <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">train</span> ride.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="406">A: Meanwhile, let's go back to the <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">train</span> ride.</sentence><sentence id="407">We were on the <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">train</span> ride.</sentence><sentence id="408">It takes about 30 minutes, the <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">train</span> ride from <span class="POPULATED_PLACE" lat="55.6694544" long="12.5893558">Copenhagen</span> to <span class="POPULATED_PLACE">Snekkersten</span>.</sentence><sentence id="409">I don't know why my father knew to get off at from <span class="POPULATED_PLACE">Snekkersten</span>.</sentence><sentence id="410">He didn't know anybody there except that he was closest to <span class="COUNTRY">Sweden</span>, and we got off the <span class="BUILDING">train station</span>, went down the <span class="DLF">stairs</span>, you know, out off the <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">train</span> and a man comes to us.</sentence><sentence id="411">Tall, I don't remember his face exactly.</sentence><sentence id="412">He was -- he looked he would be about 40 years old at that time.</sentence><sentence id="413">And he said, "I know why you are here.</sentence><sentence id="414">I am Mr. Bagge, Herr Bagge.*</sentence><sentence id="415">Please come with me."</sentence><sentence id="416">And we just followed him and we came into a big white <span class="BUILDING">house</span> and he said, "Just stay with me.</sentence><sentence id="417">I'll take care of you "til we find you a <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">fishing boat</span> to take you to <span class="COUNTRY">Sweden</span>."</sentence><sentence id="418">And he took about a week.</sentence><sentence id="419">We stayed there and you know, we had -- it was upstairs.</sentence><sentence id="420">We stayed in his <span class="BUILDING">house</span>.</sentence><sentence id="421">And everyday -- my father's blond so he didn't look Jewish, so he and Mr. Bagge would go -- I mean my mother and I were dark or I wouldn't have gone.</sentence><sentence id="422">But my father was blond and he went with Mr. Bagge every day down to the -- to see if you could get a <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">fishing boat</span> to take us to <span class="COUNTRY">Sweden</span>.</sentence><sentence id="423">You know, you had to get a man that would take us and pay and everything.</sentence><sentence id="424">And it was hard because everybody was trying to flee at the same time.</sentence><sentence id="425">And one day my father came <span class="BUILDING">home</span> and said he got a <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">rowboat</span> instead.</sentence><sentence id="426">He couldn't get a <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">fishing boat</span>.</sentence><sentence id="427">He got a <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">rowboat</span>.</sentence><sentence id="428">So we would go that night.</sentence><sentence id="429">And we all got dressed and were ready to leave and then he didn't come to pick us, the man.</sentence><sentence id="430">And they said that --I think he did come and he shows his hands and they had big blisters on it from the night before and he couldn't row again he said.</sentence><sentence id="431">So we couldn't go.</sentence><sentence id="432">And then, I think it took one or two more days, my father came back and he said -- I mean, he came back every time with Mr. Bagge -- that they found somebody would take us the next day at three o'clock.</sentence><sentence id="433">It was during the day, which itself was strange that we were able to flee during the day, but I was told later on that the Germans were paid off.</sentence><sentence id="434">So, the Germans that were guarding the <span class="DLF">harbor</span>, it was a <span class="DLF">harbor</span>, wouldn't say anything.</sentence><sentence id="435">So that day we just walked down from Mr.Bagge's <span class="BUILDING">house</span>.</sentence><sentence id="436">I remember when we left, I remember his <span class="INT_SPACE">kitchen</span> had a big picture <span class="DLF">window</span> > Commander (German) > Mr. Bagge (Danish)</sentence><sentence id="438">and he turned around and he cried and he just hoped we would get over there safely.</sentence><sentence id="439">He was such a wonderful man.</sentence><sentence id="440">I mean he risked his life and he didn't do it just for us.</sentence><sentence id="441">He did it, lots of people went through his <span class="BUILDING">house</span>.</sentence><sentence id="442">And every October second -- we fled October second, and that day my father would always send him a present in silver to commemorate the day.</sentence><sentence id="443">I just heard that he had died now.</sentence><sentence id="444">But I don't know when, but he died an old man.</sentence><sentence id="445">But he really saved many, many people.</sentence><sentence id="446">So we walked down to the <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">fishing boat</span> and I remember was the going down -- you know this <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">fishing boat</span> has where the fish is usually square opening?</sentence><sentence id="447">We went way downstairs and we were with 14 people.</sentence><sentence id="448">It took more than us, and it was a family that I knew and I met the children.</sentence><sentence id="449">They were the same age as me.</sentence><sentence id="450">I just met them in <span class="COUNTRY">Israel</span>.</sentence><sentence id="451">Their name was Marcus.</sentence><sentence id="452">I remember and they had an old aunt along and she -- I remember her putting her foot down, in the <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">fishing boat</span> to go down and she said, "Oh, I forgot my umbrella.</sentence><sentence id="453">I have to go <span class="BUILDING">home</span> and get it."</sentence><sentence id="454">And my father took her leg and pulled it down and said, "You are not going back <span class="BUILDING">home</span>.</sentence><sentence id="455">We are leaving."</sentence><sentence id="456">And, and then we all sat around, you know, was very dark down there, and they closed up the, the opening of the <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">boat</span> and then the fisherman came on board and we left.</sentence><sentence id="457">And I remember everybody being seasick and I was a little child.</sentence><sentence id="458">I mean how old I was in "40?</sentence><sentence id="459">Six years old?</sentence><sentence id="460">And I remember I was so proud of myself.</sentence><sentence id="461">I was the only one not being seasick.</sentence><sentence id="462">And we stayed very quietly and the <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">boat</span> went out.</sentence><sentence id="463">And when we were in the middle of the <span class="ENV_FEATURES">ocean</span> between <span class="COUNTRY">Sweden</span> -- it was about 30 minutes into <span class="COUNTRY">Sweden</span> -- between <span class="COUNTRY">Sweden</span> and <span class="COUNTRY">Denmark</span>, a big <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">boat</span> came and we were afraid it was Germans because there were soldiers on it.</sentence><sentence id="464">They were dressed -- they looked just like Germans.</sentence><sentence id="465">But it was a <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">Swedish patrol boat</span> that came to pick us up.</sentence><sentence id="466">They came in <span class="REGION">Swedish waters</span>.</sentence><sentence id="467">They were allowed to go out and the Germans couldn't.... And then we were safe.</sentence><sentence id="468">The Germans couldn't do anything.</sentence><sentence id="469">They came a big <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">boat</span> and they helped us up from the <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">fishing boat</span> and we stayed on the <span class="INT_SPACE">deck</span>.</sentence><sentence id="470">Then we were, we were saved.</sentence><sentence id="471">And we went into a little <span class="DLF">harbor</span> in <span class="COUNTRY">Sweden</span>.</sentence><sentence id="472">I think it was right outside of <span class="POPULATED_PLACE">Helsingborg</span>.</sentence><sentence id="473">Yeah, <span class="POPULATED_PLACE">Helsingborg</span>.</sentence><sentence id="474">And, you know, they're welcoming us; and they all look like Germans because the Swedes -- they were wearing the same dresses and we came in and we got coffee, tea and they told us where we could stay.</sentence><sentence id="475">They put us actually in the <span class="BUILDING">Grand Hotel</span>.</sentence><sentence id="476">It's called the <span class="BUILDING">Grand Hotel</span>.</sentence><sentence id="477">They paid for the <span class="INT_SPACE">suites</span>, paid for everything and they said we could stay there "til if we had any relatives in <span class="COUNTRY">Sweden</span> we could go to them.</sentence><sentence id="478">I think we stayed about a week.</sentence><sentence id="479">Every day my parents would go down to the <span class="DLF">harbor</span> to see if my grandparents had come.</sentence><sentence id="480">They will still -- and an old aunt I had, my grandfather's sister, they were still in <span class="COUNTRY">Denmark</span> when we fled.</sentence><sentence id="481">And a few days later, four, five days later they came on another <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">fishing boat</span>.</sentence><sentence id="482">I am not sure where they came from, but I know that everyday my parents went down to hear if they had come.</sentence><sentence id="483">And we were all saved.</sentence><sentence id="484">And we stayed in the <span class="BUILDING">hotel</span>, until my father -- my mother had relatives, an uncle in <span class="POPULATED_PLACE">MalmG</span>, so we went to them.</sentence><sentence id="485">And I remember in that <span class="INT_SPACE">apartment</span> there were lots of other Danes, relatives and I remember we slept on one of these <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">beds</span> you pull out for two, and we slept all four in them.</sentence><sentence id="486">And, and the only sad thing I remember from there was -- remember I was only six or seven -- that the other children that were there, they had some relatives that bought them a little doll and I didn't get a doll.</sentence><sentence id="487">I remember still that I was very unhappy I didn't get that doll.</sentence><sentence id="488">But we stayed</sentence><sentence id="490">with this family.</sentence><sentence id="491">You see my father was young.</sentence><sentence id="492">My father must have been at that time when he's born in 1906 so he was 30, 40 years old at that time.</sentence><sentence id="493">He got out and got a job.</sentence><sentence id="494">First, he got an <span class="INT_SPACE">apartment</span> for us, "cause he had some money along, and he got us an <span class="INT_SPACE">apartment</span> -- "Vastergatan," small <span class="INT_SPACE">apartment</span>.</sentence><sentence id="495">I remember we had to buy it furnished with real junky, <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">furniture</span> we bought it and we stayed there.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="593">Q: Where did your father get the money?</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="595">A: Well, he had money.</sentence><sentence id="596">Well, he had taken some money along, but actually it cost 2,000 for every -- we paid 8,000, 10,000 crowns for the five of us.</sentence><sentence id="597">I remember my uncle was there too.</sentence><sentence id="598">But I think that they did give us money.</sentence><sentence id="599">That's right.</sentence><sentence id="600">The Swedes gave us money.</sentence><sentence id="601">They gave us coupons to eat so we could go into a beautiful <span class="BUILDING">restaurant</span> to eat.</sentence><sentence id="602">And they gave us money, pocket money until we got ourselves -- I mean they were wonderful, the Swedes -- "til we got ourselves established.</sentence><sentence id="603">My father got a job right away selling artificial teeth.</sentence><sentence id="604">He would travel.</sentence><sentence id="605">I remember the little package with the teeth and he would travel and come <span class="BUILDING">home</span> and he got, you know, salary for that.</sentence><sentence id="606">My mother got a job in a <span class="BUILDING">store</span>.</sentence><sentence id="607">What is that called?</sentence><sentence id="608">With women's clothes, lingerie?</sentence><sentence id="609">These were Swedish people either that we knew before.</sentence><sentence id="610">I think that my parents must have known them.</sentence><sentence id="611">And my sister got a job.</sentence><sentence id="612">My sister was five years older.</sentence><sentence id="613">I think she was watching children, little children.</sentence><sentence id="614">And I, I just played and we lived in that <span class="INT_SPACE">apartment</span> the whole -- in <span class="POPULATED_PLACE">Vastergatan</span> -- during the war we lived.</sentence><sentence id="615">We moved and then we moved away from our relatives moved into the <span class="INT_SPACE">apartment</span>.</sentence><sentence id="616">Now I know my father -- the first job was not with the artificial teeth.</sentence><sentence id="617">The first job was in a <span class="BUILDING">chocolates</span> -- <span class="BUILDING">chocolate factory</span> called <span class="POPULATED_PLACE">Mazetti</span>.</sentence><sentence id="618">It is a very famous <span class="BUILDING">Swedish chocolate factory</span>.</sentence><sentence id="619">And they would always give him chocolate when he left to go <span class="BUILDING">home</span> to us every day to the -- you know they always call us the "flykting,*" in Swedish. "</sentence><sentence id="620">Flykting," which means, "the refugees."</sentence><sentence id="621">And they were very nice to us.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="649">Q: What did you do as a child at this point?</sentence><sentence id="650">You are in <span class="COUNTRY">Sweden</span>?</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="653">A: In <span class="COUNTRY">Sweden</span>?</sentence><sentence id="654">Well, the first -- I don't remember when they made the <span class="BUILDING">Swedish school</span>, but I would say at the first half year I just played.</sentence><sentence id="655">I didn't -- my best friend I remember had another <span class="INT_SPACE">apartment</span>.</sentence><sentence id="656">Her parents had another <span class="INT_SPACE">apartment</span>.</sentence><sentence id="657">At the same <span class="DLF">street</span> they rented another <span class="INT_SPACE">apartment</span>.</sentence><sentence id="658">We would get together to play and -- so, I didn't do anything "til they started opening a <span class="BUILDING">school</span> in <span class="COUNTRY">Sweden</span>, a <span class="BUILDING">Danish school</span> in <span class="POPULATED_PLACE">Lund</span>.</sentence><sentence id="659">I think it was after we had been there a few months or maybe even half a year.</sentence><sentence id="660">They opened the <span class="BUILDING">school</span> and I would go and I went into third grade.</sentence><sentence id="661">And my sister was five grades ahead of me.</sentence><sentence id="662">And then we would go everyday to <span class="BUILDING">school</span> like in <span class="COUNTRY">Denmark</span>.</sentence><sentence id="663">They would make it with the Principal was Danish.</sentence><sentence id="664">Her name was Lachman.</sentence><sentence id="665">And there was another very good teacher.</sentence><sentence id="666">His name was Bertelsen.</sentence><sentence id="667">He * Refugee (Danish)</sentence><sentence id="669">wrote a book later on about it.</sentence><sentence id="670">He wrote a book called October 2, 1943.</sentence><sentence id="671">Aage Bertelsen.</sentence><sentence id="672">He was a head teacher, the headmaster.</sentence><sentence id="673">And she was the Principal.</sentence><sentence id="674">And we went to a little -- I went to a little <span class="BUILDING">school</span>.</sentence><sentence id="675">It was like a <span class="BUILDING">school</span> and a big <span class="BUILDING">school</span>, probably like <span class="BUILDING">elementary</span> and more of a <span class="BUILDING">high school</span>.</sentence><sentence id="676">And it was very pleasant.</sentence><sentence id="677">It was a 20-minute ride with a <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">train</span> to <span class="POPULATED_PLACE">VAstergatan</span>, from <span class="POPULATED_PLACE">Malme</span> to <span class="POPULATED_PLACE">Lund</span>.</sentence><sentence id="678">And we had regular <span class="BUILDING">school</span> -- we work.</sentence><sentence id="679">And my sister, of course, stopped working also.</sentence><sentence id="680">She went to <span class="BUILDING">school</span>.</sentence><sentence id="681">She went to -- it's called <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">mellemskole</span>,deg the <span class="BUILDING">middle school</span>.</sentence><sentence id="682">Probably like ninth or 10th grade.</sentence><sentence id="683">And I remember for lunch, they had a <span class="NPIP">place</span> where we all would go to eat.</sentence><sentence id="684">It would be for kosher and non-kosher.</sentence><sentence id="685">A big <span class="NPIP">place</span>!</sentence><sentence id="686">And I also remember I had piano lessons in <span class="COUNTRY">Sweden</span> after hours, I remember.</sentence><sentence id="687">So we lived a pretty regular life.</sentence><sentence id="688">And then my father got this other job, which was better paid, I guess, working for his friends selling teeth.</sentence><sentence id="689">That he did the rest of the, of the occupation.</sentence><sentence id="690">And, I mean, life went on.</sentence><sentence id="691">It was a very good time for us.</sentence><sentence id="692">There was nothing, no hardship.</sentence><sentence id="693">We, you know, they -- like they gave us money "til we could -- very soon my father, you know, got the job, and my mother.</sentence><sentence id="694">We didn't need to get any money from <span class="COUNTRY">Sweden</span>.</sentence><sentence id="695">And also a very strange thing is that my father's business in <span class="COUNTRY">Denmark</span> continued, with a Jewish name, continued going, and they sent us money over.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="742">Q: How did they do that?</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="744">A: I don't know how they sent the money.</sentence><sentence id="745">I just know that the Germans did not touch any <span class="BUILDING">Jewish store</span>, any <span class="BUILDING">Jewish home</span>.</sentence><sentence id="746">Everything stood intact and went on as before, which is very strange even after they, you know, so to speak got rid of all the Jews.</sentence><sentence id="747">I don't know how they sent money over, but they did.</sentence><sentence id="748">Curious.</sentence><sentence id="749">I really don't know.</sentence><sentence id="750">And I know that it went on and my father's -- all his employees -- he had like about 20 people working for him -- and they all took care of it and they were very honest.</sentence><sentence id="751">They sent money over or kept it.</sentence><sentence id="752">| mean there was no stealing, no looting.</sentence><sentence id="753">You know, wasn't -- the Danes are good people.</sentence><sentence id="754">They didn't only save us.</sentence><sentence id="755">They saved our things.</sentence><sentence id="756">Saved our <span class="NPIP">things</span>.</sentence><sentence id="757">So, like I said, it was, it was not a bad life in <span class="COUNTRY">Sweden</span> for us.</sentence><sentence id="758">It was a good life</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="774">Q: Did you hear at all about what was going on in <span class="COUNTRY">Denmark</span>?</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="776">A: In <span class="COUNTRY">Denmark</span>, not so much.</sentence><sentence id="777">We didn't know the bad things that were going on in the world or.... No, I don't think anybody believed it or knew it.</sentence><sentence id="778">No.</sentence><sentence id="779">That's why we weren't really afraid either when the Germans were occupying <span class="COUNTRY">Denmark</span>.</sentence><sentence id="780">We weren't scared because we never.... I don't think we knew or maybe because I was so young, I didn't know.</sentence><sentence id="781">But I don't think we knew what was going on in the world at all.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="788">Q: What -- you are in <span class="COUNTRY">Sweden</span>.</sentence><sentence id="789">You are going to <span class="BUILDING">school</span>.</sentence><sentence id="790">By then you would have been seven,</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class=""><p><sentence id="794">> <span class="BUILDING">Middle school</span> (Danish)</sentence></p><p></p><p><sentence id="798">eight, nine.</sentence><sentence id="799">You didn't hear anything about what was happening, about even in terms of <span class="COUNTRY">Denmark</span>, their attempts to round up the Jews?</sentence><sentence id="800">You didn't know about any of that?</sentence></p></dialogue><dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="801">A: No.</sentence><sentence id="802">No.</sentence><sentence id="803">Well, we knew they were going to -- that they were attempting and we knew that 99 percent of the Jews were saved, because we knew -- you know, we met people and, and the only ones that were taken were the ones that didn't believe it and stayed <span class="BUILDING">home</span>.</sentence><sentence id="804">Which was about 400 people.</sentence><sentence id="805">And those 400 people were all sort of taken care of specially.</sentence><sentence id="806">I don't know if you want to hear about that, but they weren't.... No.</sentence><sentence id="807">Where they went -- no, that's not-</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="815">Q: No.</sentence><sentence id="816">What we want is just your story at this point.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="819">A: Right.</sentence><sentence id="820">Well, I mean my whole family was saved.</sentence><sentence id="821">My grandparents, they also went to <span class="POPULATED_PLACE">Malme</span>.</sentence><sentence id="822">They lived there in an <span class="INT_SPACE">apartment</span>.</sentence><sentence id="823">My mother's parents and my mother's brothers and sisters with their family.</sentence><sentence id="824">Everybody was saved and they all lived either in <span class="POPULATED_PLACE">Malm</span> or in <span class="POPULATED_PLACE">Stockholm</span>.</sentence><sentence id="825">Somebody lived near <span class="POPULATED_PLACE">Lund</span>.</sentence><sentence id="826">And we got together with them, and we had like a normal life there.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="835">Q: Did your parents or did any member of your family that you know of have any connections or involvement with the resistance or with any groups that were?</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="837">A: Well, my father became a brigadier.</sentence><sentence id="838">| think it's called a brigadier -- Brigade(r) in Danish.</sentence><sentence id="839">He was 40 years old and they, they trained them in <span class="COUNTRY">Sweden</span>.</sentence><sentence id="840">They trained them to go back when the <span class="COUNTRY">Germany</span> -- when they, when they capitulated.</sentence><sentence id="841">When they knew that it was going towards the end of the war and they were going to send them back to help round up the Germans and so my -- the minute the war was over, my father left with the whole battalion of soldiers.</sentence><sentence id="842">And we stayed in <span class="COUNTRY">Sweden</span>.</sentence><sentence id="843">We didn't go back to <span class="COUNTRY">Denmark</span> "til May 28th.</sentence><sentence id="844">The war was over May fifth, I believe.</sentence><sentence id="845"><span class="COUNTRY">Germany</span> gave up.</sentence><sentence id="846">But we stayed "til, you know -- I guess we all, all the Danes went back on one big <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">boat</span> to <span class="COUNTRY">Sweden</span> -- to <span class="COUNTRY">Denmark</span>, on May 28.</sentence><sentence id="847">And I remember that very well.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="859">Q: Describe that trip.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="861">A: That trip -- I just remember standing on this tremendous <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">boat</span>, being very happy going back.</sentence><sentence id="862">You know, this was just my mother and my sister and I. And I remember when we came towards the <span class="ENV_FEATURES">shore</span>, all the Danes -- millions of Danes, thousands of Danes were standing there with red and white flags, the Dannebrog" waving, welcoming us back.</sentence><sentence id="863">And they were wonderful all the way.</sentence><sentence id="864">And I just remember we went to, to the <span class="BUILDING">house</span> we had my father had bought before the war.</sentence><sentence id="865">And that's why I remember all, all these pictures that were broken on the <span class="INT_SPACE">floor</span> from German soldiers and, and I also know my sister stayed back because she deg Brigadier, general (Danish) T Danish flag (Danish)</sentence><sentence id="867">0 stayed for another month to graduate.</sentence><sentence id="868">She was in a <span class="BUILDING">middle school</span> where you had "til --I guess it's like <span class="BUILDING">high school</span> here.</sentence><sentence id="869">So, in order to graduate they had to finish the year.</sentence><sentence id="870">So they -- she stayed.</sentence><sentence id="871">I think they went to <span class="POPULATED_PLACE">Lund</span> and stayed there.</sentence><sentence id="872">It was like about 30 people, from that class, that had to stay.</sentence><sentence id="873">And when she came back her classmates from <span class="BUILDING">school</span> came to welcome her in the <span class="BUILDING">house</span>.</sentence><sentence id="874">I remember that.</sentence><sentence id="875">She -- in our <span class="BUILDING">house</span> and they came all over to welcome her back.</sentence><sentence id="876">And--</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="897">Q: What was the--?</sentence><sentence id="898">You came back to <span class="COUNTRY">Denmark</span>.</sentence><sentence id="899">You found this <span class="BUILDING">house</span>.</sentence><sentence id="900">Did you go to your <span class="INT_SPACE">apartment</span>, as well?</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="905">A: No, because my father had bought it before and I think that the maid probably had moved all the <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">furniture</span> or I am not sure.</sentence><sentence id="906">But we never went to the <span class="INT_SPACE">apartment</span>.</sentence><sentence id="907">That was rented out.</sentence><sentence id="908">But all our <span class="NPIP">stuff</span> was completely where we -- nothing was stolen.</sentence><sentence id="909">And I know my father had a <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">car</span> before the war.</sentence><sentence id="910">It was still standing there.</sentence><sentence id="911">And his business was still running, with the same foreman and same people working there.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="919">Q: Did he get his business back?</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="921">A: Yeah.</sentence><sentence id="922">He just, he just started back.</sentence><sentence id="923">And it was just running as if he had been there, there all the time.</sentence><sentence id="924">Which was strange, that they -- it was strange that the German's didn't close down the <span class="BUILDING">Jewish businesses</span>.</sentence><sentence id="925">They didn't.</sentence><sentence id="926">And I started <span class="BUILDING">school</span>, and then I must start in a new <span class="BUILDING">school</span>.</sentence><sentence id="927">I went to a <span class="BUILDING">public school</span> then, in the fourth grade.</sentence><sentence id="928">Fourth, fifth grade I stayed there.</sentence><sentence id="929">And, you know, everybody was asking us, "What happened in <span class="COUNTRY">Sweden</span>?</sentence><sentence id="930">How were you're experiences?"</sentence><sentence id="931">And everybody was curious.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="943">Q: Did you either before or after the war, what did it feel like being Jewish particularly in <span class="COUNTRY">Denmark</span>?</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="945">A: Well, there was no-- the way I look at it, there was no difference between being Jewish and not Jewish.</sentence><sentence id="946">And I did not come from a religious background so maybe I never felt anything and I remember very -- I mean today I feel differently, but I remember standing outside our <span class="BUILDING">house</span> with some friends.</sentence><sentence id="947">We had just been going to <span class="BUILDING">dance class</span> and we were discussing whether one should marry -- one should stay and marry only Jewish people, and they all felt sure, and they were not Jewish.</sentence><sentence id="948">I remember they were saying that they felt that Jews should marry Jews.</sentence><sentence id="949">And I say, ""Why you marry?</sentence><sentence id="950">You are in love with them."</sentence><sentence id="951">This is my background I guess.</sentence><sentence id="952">You don't marry for religion.</sentence><sentence id="953">You marry.</sentence><sentence id="954">But we really did not feel any difference, there was -- of being Jewish or not Jewish in <span class="COUNTRY">Denmark</span> didn't.</sentence><sentence id="955">My husband might tell you different stories.</sentence><sentence id="956">I don't know -- because he comes from a religious background.</sentence><sentence id="957">So it's different.</sentence><sentence id="958">But I, I didn't feel any discrimination ever.</sentence><sentence id="959">Never heard the word "Jew" said.</sentence><sentence id="960">And I went to -- well, the first few years I went to <span class="BUILDING">Jewish schools</span> and when I came back, I was -- there was one more boy that was Jewish in the class.</sentence><sentence id="961">When I went to the higher</sentence><sentence id="963">1 <span class="BUILDING">schools</span>, there was another girl.</sentence><sentence id="964">I went to an all girls" school then from sixth grade "til I graduated.</sentence><sentence id="965">And there were two Jews in the class: me and another girl.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="989">Q: Did you feel any difference because there were only two of you?</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="991">A: No, I never even thought -- it's just that I knew her and I knew her family, that I know she was Jewish.</sentence><sentence id="992">But no, I never felt anything different between being Jewish and not Jewish.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="995">Q: What was it like immediately after the war in <span class="COUNTRY">Denmark</span>?</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Answer"><p><sentence id="997">A: How I remember that, we couldn't get chocolate.</sentence><sentence id="998">Because I knew my father would buy things that nobody could get, so he would like buy -- you know, it was rationing, and he would get it for us.</sentence><sentence id="999">But it was not a hard life.</sentence><sentence id="1000">We went to <span class="BUILDING">school</span> and just classes -- 1 know people didn't have as many <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">cars</span> as we do now.</sentence><sentence id="1001">I would go by <span class="SPATIAL_OBJ">bicycle</span> to <span class="BUILDING">school</span> always, like everybody else.</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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<dialogue class="Question"><p><sentence id="1007">Q: Is there anything you want to add?</sentence></p></dialogue> |
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