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gqp4av
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Model Y Rear USB C Charge Rates I test drove a Y today from the Littleton CO service center to convince the wife to replace her Ford Edge. One of the questions I had was the max USB PD charge rates of the USB C ports since this is a real weak point of my 2018 Model 3. I tried both a Dell laptop and Pixel C tablet (both use USB PD). The Pixel has a max charge rate of 27W (9v 3A) and the Dell max rate is 100W (20v 5A). & #x200B The attached picture shows the max rate using the laptop which topped out at 27W. I didn t test the front port to see if it could do more than the back but I doubt it. My guess is Tesla (at this time) does not support 20v USB PD which is needed for anything over 3A. I was hoping by chance the ports would support 20v 3A for 60W which will make most laptops happy. 20v 5A requires a certified cable with chips in both ends so I doubted the Y would support it. & #x200B **The nice thing is the laptop was happily charging just like the Pixel it would throw an error about an undersized power adapter if the lid was open but will still charge if it can.** & #x200B Also in comparison to the Ford Edge the hatch area is very short (height). The wife and I are both unsure if our Labs would be comfortable back there. I sat in the area and had to lay down to shut the hatch where in the Edge I can sit almost upright. & #x200B Update: I added measurements from my Model 3 both front and rear ports using the Pixel C. The laptop will not charge on 5v power. \\~10W is what the current USB A ports seem to be capable of in the 3. Update 2: Tesla let us bring the dogs over and throw them in the back (100lb and an 80lb lab do fit btw). They do fit and we ordered a Y. & #x200B [2018 Model 3 Front USB \\(10W\\)](https: preview.redd.it 3hvj6bvv81151.jpg?width=4032& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=92e0e4d76907f88ab82b5a9ddc017ef041da030d) [2018 Model 3 Rear USB \\(10.5W\\)](https: preview.redd.it et9q1fvv81151.jpg?width=4032& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=39669ef8b6409444ee0f52b1a90e3f47eea75997) & #x200B [Model Y Rear USB C \\(27W\\)](https: preview.redd.it g99k5v5001151.jpg?width=3024& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=2d95f5d729c63c5c908c626a88885f979cea58ea)
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This is great thanks for doing this. I wonder if a retrofit for Model 3s will be available as new Model 3s coming off the production line in China also have the USB-C connectors.
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What s the charging rate compared to the model 3?
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gqy39y
| 127 |
VA to charge $88.20 annually for all EVs starting July 1st 2020 Just about to renew my registration and found out VA has mandated a $88.20 annual highway usage fees for EVs. They did repeal the $64 EV purchase fee at the time of purchase. I feel like I m being punished for not buying gas lol! [https: www.dmv.virginia.gov vehicles #HighwayUse\\_fee.asp](https: www.dmv.virginia.gov vehicles #HighwayUse_fee.asp)
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Gotta pay for roads somehow. That sounds like a pretty fair annual fee off the cuff. Here in Ohio it s $200 per year for EVs.
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Here s a fee for not killing the planet
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gqyhsz
| 46 |
Insurance for FSD (Geico) Called Geico today inquiring about what happens to my full self driving if car gets totaled. Spoke to two representatives neither seemed to know the answer or anything about the software. Any suggestions?
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This is what I received from Geico in writing after buying FSD last year: > We apologize for any confusion or frustration regarding the Autopilot Software for your vehicle. Although you indicated that it is a post-delivery add on rest assured that in the event of a loss the system would still be covered. Please be sure to keep proof of purchase of the system. However this cannot be listed on your policy as a customization at this time. When I was in an accident in February the adjuster handling my case advised that they did indeed consider the cost of FSD when deciding whether to total the car.
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Just tell them you bought an aftermarket software option that cost $X 000 and you d like it covered. Don t bother trying to explain what FSD is.
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grcrbl
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Tesla reduces 5K off S X and 2K off on Model 3 & #x200B |No more free Supercharging|Long Range Plus|Performance| |:-|:-|:-| |Model S|74990|94990| |Model X|79990|99990| & #x200B ||SR+|LR AWD|Performance| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |Model 3|37990|46990|54990| |Model Y|N A|52990|60990| & #x200B
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Makes the 35k SR a pretty bad deal
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Ok Tesla should now add the Model Y Standard Range reservations and take advantage of all the SpaceX publicity tomorrow!
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grcrbl
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Tesla reduces 5K off S X and 2K off on Model 3 & #x200B |No more free Supercharging|Long Range Plus|Performance| |:-|:-|:-| |Model S|74990|94990| |Model X|79990|99990| & #x200B ||SR+|LR AWD|Performance| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |Model 3|37990|46990|54990| |Model Y|N A|52990|60990| & #x200B
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Makes the 35k SR a pretty bad deal
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Anyone think this is a one-time event? Or will it stick? I ve been close to pulling the trigger on a Model 3 for a few months now this might push me over the edge...
| 340 | 35 | 7,010 |
grcrbl
| 1,304 |
Tesla reduces 5K off S X and 2K off on Model 3 & #x200B |No more free Supercharging|Long Range Plus|Performance| |:-|:-|:-| |Model S|74990|94990| |Model X|79990|99990| & #x200B ||SR+|LR AWD|Performance| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |Model 3|37990|46990|54990| |Model Y|N A|52990|60990| & #x200B
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Makes the 35k SR a pretty bad deal
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Model Y demand is strong
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grlgr1
| 48 |
Tesla price history as of May 27 2020 For reference here are the USA prices before and after the price change of May 27 2020 **Model 3** |3|SR+|AWD|P| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |Before 8 17 2019|$39|$48|$55| |8 17 2019|$39|$48|$56| |10 16 2019|$39.5 (range: 240 -> 250)|$48|$57| |11 1 2019|$39.5|$48.5 (range: 310 -> 322)|$57| |12 12 2019|$40|$49|$57| |5 27 2020|**$38**|**$47**|**$55**| & #x200B **Model Y** \\+$3k added to original Model Y prices to account for the lack of Autopilot (basic Autopilot is now standard) |Y|SR|LR|AWD|P| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |Announced|$39 (+3)|$47 (+3)|$51 (+3)|$60 (+3)| |3 24 2019|\\---|$48 (+3)|$52 (+3)|$61 (+3)| |8 17 2019|\\---|$48|$52|$61| |???|\\---|\\---|$53|$61| & #x200B **Model S** No more free supercharging for first owner |S|SR|LR|P|PL| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |Before 7 15 2019|$75|$85|$96|$116| |7 15 2019|\\---|$80|\\---|$100| |5 27 2020|\\---|**$75**|\\---|**$95**| & #x200B **Model X** No more free supercharging for first owner |**X**|SR|LR|P|PL| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |Before 7 15 2019|$81|$91|$102|$122| |7 15 2019|\\---|$85|\\---|$105| |5 27 2020|\\---|**$80**|\\---|**$100**|
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This is crazy. The same car I purchased 5 years ago is now $22 000 cheaper (pre credit) and has 120miles more range. Electric cars have come a long way in 5 years
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Wow so this is the cheapest the 3 has ever been. Thanks for the summary of price changes!
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grlgr1
| 48 |
Tesla price history as of May 27 2020 For reference here are the USA prices before and after the price change of May 27 2020 **Model 3** |3|SR+|AWD|P| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |Before 8 17 2019|$39|$48|$55| |8 17 2019|$39|$48|$56| |10 16 2019|$39.5 (range: 240 -> 250)|$48|$57| |11 1 2019|$39.5|$48.5 (range: 310 -> 322)|$57| |12 12 2019|$40|$49|$57| |5 27 2020|**$38**|**$47**|**$55**| & #x200B **Model Y** \\+$3k added to original Model Y prices to account for the lack of Autopilot (basic Autopilot is now standard) |Y|SR|LR|AWD|P| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |Announced|$39 (+3)|$47 (+3)|$51 (+3)|$60 (+3)| |3 24 2019|\\---|$48 (+3)|$52 (+3)|$61 (+3)| |8 17 2019|\\---|$48|$52|$61| |???|\\---|\\---|$53|$61| & #x200B **Model S** No more free supercharging for first owner |S|SR|LR|P|PL| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |Before 7 15 2019|$75|$85|$96|$116| |7 15 2019|\\---|$80|\\---|$100| |5 27 2020|\\---|**$75**|\\---|**$95**| & #x200B **Model X** No more free supercharging for first owner |**X**|SR|LR|P|PL| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |Before 7 15 2019|$81|$91|$102|$122| |7 15 2019|\\---|$85|\\---|$105| |5 27 2020|\\---|**$80**|\\---|**$100**|
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This is crazy. The same car I purchased 5 years ago is now $22 000 cheaper (pre credit) and has 120miles more range. Electric cars have come a long way in 5 years
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Opening the door to all the complaints about the manufacturer inducing depreciation by lowering the price!
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grnzq1
| 427 |
NASA-themed X for driving Behnken and Hurley out to the launchpad Check out the [NASA twitch](https: www.twitch.tv nasa) stream for the launch. I capped the screenshot while the astronauts were suiting up [Elon and Mike in the foreground](https: preview.redd.it 0d2tlem4cc151.png?width=1596& format=png& auto=webp& s=6b4525d3ba963d22873f4c0030b4f088be80b9a9)
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Great advertisement for Tesla =).
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En Route: https: imgur.com d2LH3QH
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grnzq1
| 427 |
NASA-themed X for driving Behnken and Hurley out to the launchpad Check out the [NASA twitch](https: www.twitch.tv nasa) stream for the launch. I capped the screenshot while the astronauts were suiting up [Elon and Mike in the foreground](https: preview.redd.it 0d2tlem4cc151.png?width=1596& format=png& auto=webp& s=6b4525d3ba963d22873f4c0030b4f088be80b9a9)
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Man I m too nervous to watch. They talked about the last breakfast and had families saying goodbye and stuff. The more big deal they make the more nervous I get.
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En Route: https: imgur.com d2LH3QH
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grulug
| 82 |
Coincidence? Price drop when whole counry is watching Model X drive down to launchpad It just hit me what a good marketing ploy No way can be coincidence I m thinking at least Any thoughts
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Or you know demand is down due to lockdown and they have further reduced their costs. I mean they were kind of due for a price cut.
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It s probably just a coincidence. You have COVID which has most likely reduced demand and the ability for a lot of people to buy a Tesla and you could also have potential breakthroughs in cost savings for producing the cars. I would say those are much more likely the reason for the price drop.
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grulug
| 82 |
Coincidence? Price drop when whole counry is watching Model X drive down to launchpad It just hit me what a good marketing ploy No way can be coincidence I m thinking at least Any thoughts
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Or you know demand is down due to lockdown and they have further reduced their costs. I mean they were kind of due for a price cut.
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The reasoning I had seen for the price drop is that there is a battery tech update announcement soon.
| 83 | 23 | 7,017 |
grulug
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Coincidence? Price drop when whole counry is watching Model X drive down to launchpad It just hit me what a good marketing ploy No way can be coincidence I m thinking at least Any thoughts
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Or you know demand is down due to lockdown and they have further reduced their costs. I mean they were kind of due for a price cut.
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If anything they should have kept the price the same if you re suggesting watching the model x would lead to a casual consumer deciding to buy one because they think it looks cool with astronauts in it.
| 83 | 31 | 7,018 |
gt77c4
| 69 |
Software 2020.20.1 Release notes Just received version 2020.20.1 Includes: **Fallout Shelter:** Fallout Shelter puts you in control of a state of the art underground Vault from Vault-Tec. Build the perfect Vault keep your Dwellers happy and protect them from the dangers of the Wasteland. To play Fallout Shelter tap Entertainment from the Application Launchers then Arcade> Fallout Shelter **Theater Mode Improvements** With this release you can now play pause and skip video playback with you steering wheel controls while using Theater Mode. Theater Mode is only available while you vehicle is in PARK **TRAX improvements** Wen have added a piano roll view that allows you to edit and fine tune notes in a track. You can now tap in view to create a note move or resize it by dragging the tail end of a note and delete it with a long press. To play a note sound simply hold and move the notes. In addition when you tap the record button a metronome beat will play to make it easier for you to record at the desired time. *This release contains minor improvements and bug fixes.*
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I wish Tesla was more transparent when it comes to “This release contains minor improvements and bug fixes”. Personally I care more about what minor issues have been fixed than Trax updates no offense to all you Trax lovers (or the one 🤓).
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Any changes in AP behavior?
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gt77c4
| 69 |
Software 2020.20.1 Release notes Just received version 2020.20.1 Includes: **Fallout Shelter:** Fallout Shelter puts you in control of a state of the art underground Vault from Vault-Tec. Build the perfect Vault keep your Dwellers happy and protect them from the dangers of the Wasteland. To play Fallout Shelter tap Entertainment from the Application Launchers then Arcade> Fallout Shelter **Theater Mode Improvements** With this release you can now play pause and skip video playback with you steering wheel controls while using Theater Mode. Theater Mode is only available while you vehicle is in PARK **TRAX improvements** Wen have added a piano roll view that allows you to edit and fine tune notes in a track. You can now tap in view to create a note move or resize it by dragging the tail end of a note and delete it with a long press. To play a note sound simply hold and move the notes. In addition when you tap the record button a metronome beat will play to make it easier for you to record at the desired time. *This release contains minor improvements and bug fixes.*
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I wish Tesla was more transparent when it comes to “This release contains minor improvements and bug fixes”. Personally I care more about what minor issues have been fixed than Trax updates no offense to all you Trax lovers (or the one 🤓).
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Can someone tell me what the draw is to TRAX? Do a lot of people use it? I tried for 10 seconds and noped out. Now cuphead on the other hand....
| 49 | 13 | 7,020 |
gt8rdj
| 67 |
Less than 2 Week Old Model Y. AC started blowing hot air today. That s pretty much it. I live in Arizona and had to drive home 30 miles in 110 degrees with my dog in the back of the car panting like crazy bc the AC was blowing hot air. Pretty unpleasant and beyond infuriating. I ve tried restarting it. Doesn t work. Service can t get me in for a week. It ll be 105+ degrees for the next week. Can anyone suggest anything or has anyone dealt with this? Thanks. Edit: Also when I try to cool it from the app I get an error message that says “Climate: failed to turn on climate” Fun
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Drive to the dealership and drop it off and get a loaner. No different than any other dealership.
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Try restarting the car. May be software glitch.
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gt8rdj
| 67 |
Less than 2 Week Old Model Y. AC started blowing hot air today. That s pretty much it. I live in Arizona and had to drive home 30 miles in 110 degrees with my dog in the back of the car panting like crazy bc the AC was blowing hot air. Pretty unpleasant and beyond infuriating. I ve tried restarting it. Doesn t work. Service can t get me in for a week. It ll be 105+ degrees for the next week. Can anyone suggest anything or has anyone dealt with this? Thanks. Edit: Also when I try to cool it from the app I get an error message that says “Climate: failed to turn on climate” Fun
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Drive to the dealership and drop it off and get a loaner. No different than any other dealership.
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What s the sound when you turn on AC?
| 63 | 6 | 7,022 |
gt8rdj
| 67 |
Less than 2 Week Old Model Y. AC started blowing hot air today. That s pretty much it. I live in Arizona and had to drive home 30 miles in 110 degrees with my dog in the back of the car panting like crazy bc the AC was blowing hot air. Pretty unpleasant and beyond infuriating. I ve tried restarting it. Doesn t work. Service can t get me in for a week. It ll be 105+ degrees for the next week. Can anyone suggest anything or has anyone dealt with this? Thanks. Edit: Also when I try to cool it from the app I get an error message that says “Climate: failed to turn on climate” Fun
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Don t listen to anybody who says just to deal with it. You live in Arizona and this is a direct threat to your health and safety if you intend to use the vehicle you just purchased to actually go anywhere. Definitely schedule the appointment so they know what s going on but just go directly there don t wait for them to tell you you can.
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Try restarting the car. May be software glitch.
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gtp5m7
| 708 |
Model Y now has an estimated delivery of 4-8 weeks [4-8 weeks ](https: www.tesla.com modely design#payment)
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Damn now if only I could afford it
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What was it before?
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gtp5m7
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Model Y now has an estimated delivery of 4-8 weeks [4-8 weeks ](https: www.tesla.com modely design#payment)
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A car have a faster delivery than the fucking index valve. It s still 8weeks + and i ordered before the quarantine
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I ordered mine 4 months ago and still haven t heard anything and no VIN
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gu73hd
| 432 |
Just put in my Model X order. Thanks everyone for their feedback! Title says it all. Thanks everyone for the advice when I was considering the purchase. Just put in my order for a new Model X performance in midnight silver metallic and onyx wheels. Girlfriend and I are very excited to join the group!
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Congrats on the new spaceship.
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Congrats mate you will LOVE it
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gu73hd
| 432 |
Just put in my Model X order. Thanks everyone for their feedback! Title says it all. Thanks everyone for the advice when I was considering the purchase. Just put in my order for a new Model X performance in midnight silver metallic and onyx wheels. Girlfriend and I are very excited to join the group!
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Watching a couple ASTRONAUTS being driven over to a SPACESHIP in a model X must have been fun for you. One day soon that will be YOU!
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Interior?
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gu73hd
| 432 |
Just put in my Model X order. Thanks everyone for their feedback! Title says it all. Thanks everyone for the advice when I was considering the purchase. Just put in my order for a new Model X performance in midnight silver metallic and onyx wheels. Girlfriend and I are very excited to join the group!
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Watching a couple ASTRONAUTS being driven over to a SPACESHIP in a model X must have been fun for you. One day soon that will be YOU!
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I hate to be the dumb guy but since you just ordered you may be excited enough to help me. I test drove a M3P today and plan to order one within the week. Anything I should know besides what is on the sidebar quick links here?
| 42 | 5 | 7,028 |
gulp6e
| 81 |
Clueless Driver Engages AP + Plows Into Stationary Truck So this just happened this morning on a highway in Taiwan: [Video footage here](https: www.cna.com.tw news asoc 202006010318.aspx) Basically the driver had plenty of time to avoid a truck which had broken down (and rolled onto its side) in the inner lane of the highway but ended up (somewhat hilariously) ramming into it head-on anyway. Clearly the driver wasn t paying attention and or potentially using something that bypassed the autopilot steering wheel pressure reminder. My understanding on the matter is that due to current limitations in software hardware(?) AP does not factor in stationary objects in its calculations. This seems to be a common trait in the fatal accidents of Walter Huang (2018) and also Joshua Brown (2016) where AP was engaged and the car plowed into stationary objects anyway. Just wondering if there s any good literature or resources on this to read up on? Why exactly AP calculates the way it currently does and what the strategy moving forward is going to be. P.S. the driver is totally fine sustained no injuries though his car is pretty beat up (and dirty...the truck was carrying what looks like thousand isle sauce or something real pink and saucy haha)
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It s not that AP doesn t factor in stationary objects. It s that stationary objects are harder to detect. Even for a human dinosaur moving objects are easier to detect. Source: Visited Jurassic Park when I was a kid dinos escaped. They made a whole movie about it. Never saw it.
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Car behind nearly did the same... people are idiots.
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gulp6e
| 81 |
Clueless Driver Engages AP + Plows Into Stationary Truck So this just happened this morning on a highway in Taiwan: [Video footage here](https: www.cna.com.tw news asoc 202006010318.aspx) Basically the driver had plenty of time to avoid a truck which had broken down (and rolled onto its side) in the inner lane of the highway but ended up (somewhat hilariously) ramming into it head-on anyway. Clearly the driver wasn t paying attention and or potentially using something that bypassed the autopilot steering wheel pressure reminder. My understanding on the matter is that due to current limitations in software hardware(?) AP does not factor in stationary objects in its calculations. This seems to be a common trait in the fatal accidents of Walter Huang (2018) and also Joshua Brown (2016) where AP was engaged and the car plowed into stationary objects anyway. Just wondering if there s any good literature or resources on this to read up on? Why exactly AP calculates the way it currently does and what the strategy moving forward is going to be. P.S. the driver is totally fine sustained no injuries though his car is pretty beat up (and dirty...the truck was carrying what looks like thousand isle sauce or something real pink and saucy haha)
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I mean AP not seeing a giant white obstacle in the middle of a perfectly straight road and in broad daylight is a bit concerning. If they didn t solve this problem in the last four years (the very similar Joshua Brown s accident) I really can t see how they could possibly deliver full self driving capabilities anytime soon.
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Anyone else think the cars here are moving strangely slow for what looks to be a highway and relatively modest traffic?
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gulp6e
| 81 |
Clueless Driver Engages AP + Plows Into Stationary Truck So this just happened this morning on a highway in Taiwan: [Video footage here](https: www.cna.com.tw news asoc 202006010318.aspx) Basically the driver had plenty of time to avoid a truck which had broken down (and rolled onto its side) in the inner lane of the highway but ended up (somewhat hilariously) ramming into it head-on anyway. Clearly the driver wasn t paying attention and or potentially using something that bypassed the autopilot steering wheel pressure reminder. My understanding on the matter is that due to current limitations in software hardware(?) AP does not factor in stationary objects in its calculations. This seems to be a common trait in the fatal accidents of Walter Huang (2018) and also Joshua Brown (2016) where AP was engaged and the car plowed into stationary objects anyway. Just wondering if there s any good literature or resources on this to read up on? Why exactly AP calculates the way it currently does and what the strategy moving forward is going to be. P.S. the driver is totally fine sustained no injuries though his car is pretty beat up (and dirty...the truck was carrying what looks like thousand isle sauce or something real pink and saucy haha)
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I mean AP not seeing a giant white obstacle in the middle of a perfectly straight road and in broad daylight is a bit concerning. If they didn t solve this problem in the last four years (the very similar Joshua Brown s accident) I really can t see how they could possibly deliver full self driving capabilities anytime soon.
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It stops for stationary objects vast majority of the time... just clearly not 100%
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gvny0f
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Over 750K CyberTruck orders! If the method of subtracting 112744100 from your reservation number is to be believed then there have been more than 750k orders. I just ordered(deposited?) and mine is ~753K What do you guys think of this number? Do you think it s true? How many orders do you think have been cancelled already? How many orders do you think will translate into sales? Let me know :)
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I d say less than 50% translates to sales at time of order. Some won t be able to do to finances and some may have just wanted to order out just because.
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If the calculation is correct I m somehow in the first 200 reservations.
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gvoeoz
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Lesson learned: Dont provide sentry mode videos to your Insurance So some lady smashed her door at my Tesla. Sentry Mode catched it on video and i was happy. I provided the video to my insurance in good faith believing they will handle the case with the insurance of the other car (Car Plate was recorded but number is blocked from public query) Oh boy i was wrong. They actually used it as reason to deny cover over the parking damage option i have (parking damages by unknown with no deductible ) and tell me i need to use my normal insurance with deductible because the perpetrator is known They will not help me with finding out who it was so i will probably need to go to the police now.But my legal protection already said that my video could be inadmissible Country: Switzerland Insurance: Zurich TL DR Do only provide sentry videos to proof innocence and not fault lesson learned
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I think the real lesson learned here is never to trust an insurance company. They probably could have found a way to deny payment even if you hadn t provided the video.
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Ich bins nöd gsi!
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gvoeoz
| 1,870 |
Lesson learned: Dont provide sentry mode videos to your Insurance So some lady smashed her door at my Tesla. Sentry Mode catched it on video and i was happy. I provided the video to my insurance in good faith believing they will handle the case with the insurance of the other car (Car Plate was recorded but number is blocked from public query) Oh boy i was wrong. They actually used it as reason to deny cover over the parking damage option i have (parking damages by unknown with no deductible ) and tell me i need to use my normal insurance with deductible because the perpetrator is known They will not help me with finding out who it was so i will probably need to go to the police now.But my legal protection already said that my video could be inadmissible Country: Switzerland Insurance: Zurich TL DR Do only provide sentry videos to proof innocence and not fault lesson learned
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I think the real lesson learned here is never to trust an insurance company. They probably could have found a way to deny payment even if you hadn t provided the video.
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Change insurance agencies
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gvoeoz
| 1,870 |
Lesson learned: Dont provide sentry mode videos to your Insurance So some lady smashed her door at my Tesla. Sentry Mode catched it on video and i was happy. I provided the video to my insurance in good faith believing they will handle the case with the insurance of the other car (Car Plate was recorded but number is blocked from public query) Oh boy i was wrong. They actually used it as reason to deny cover over the parking damage option i have (parking damages by unknown with no deductible ) and tell me i need to use my normal insurance with deductible because the perpetrator is known They will not help me with finding out who it was so i will probably need to go to the police now.But my legal protection already said that my video could be inadmissible Country: Switzerland Insurance: Zurich TL DR Do only provide sentry videos to proof innocence and not fault lesson learned
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Simple: read the license plate from the video go to the police say you saw who did it but you could not catch him because he left and don´t talk about the video. Im in Germany and that´s my plan otherwise Datenschutz could kick in and I would be in trouble.
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Change insurance agencies
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gvrgut
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Has your Tesla allowed you to accept longer commutes? Has getting a Tesla either allowed you to accept jobs with longer commutes or given you reason to move farther away from your current employer? If so how much longer farther did your commute change and how big of a factor was your Tesla in your decision? Edit: For background I am considering increasing my commute from 25-30 minutes (no Tesla in very heavy traffic) to a solid hour (with Tesla in moderate heavy traffic). Wondering if the time trade off will be significantly improved by autopilot. Edit2: Thanks for all the replies. I really appreciate it!
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My commute is half the reason I bought the Tesla. I called it a commuter car once and the folks I was talking to to made a bit of a face. I had to add on “it s an expensive commuter car”
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I was moving and buying a Tesla anyway the timing just coincided. I (prior to covid) travel 300km round trip 2-3 times a week about 2 3 is freeway driving. Having the autopilot definitely makes a huge difference. I have taken to scheduling phone conferences during my commute because AP allows me to pay slightly less attention to the road and more to the call. At first when I heard people say they arrive less tired at their destination after using AP I thought what BS but I am now a believer. Tesla is enabling me to make multiple long commutes per week.
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gvrgut
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Has your Tesla allowed you to accept longer commutes? Has getting a Tesla either allowed you to accept jobs with longer commutes or given you reason to move farther away from your current employer? If so how much longer farther did your commute change and how big of a factor was your Tesla in your decision? Edit: For background I am considering increasing my commute from 25-30 minutes (no Tesla in very heavy traffic) to a solid hour (with Tesla in moderate heavy traffic). Wondering if the time trade off will be significantly improved by autopilot. Edit2: Thanks for all the replies. I really appreciate it!
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My commute is half the reason I bought the Tesla. I called it a commuter car once and the folks I was talking to to made a bit of a face. I had to add on “it s an expensive commuter car”
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Yes. Now driving from 1-1.5 hrs for work jobs in rural Vic Aus. previously 25mins and it s such an ease. Especially AP. I look for the longer commute. Not to mention the 6hr day off drives just because
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gwmx1w
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2020.20.x Software Update Megathread 2020.20.x has now rolled out to more than 5% of the fleet and working its way out to more vehicles! Learn more about [Tesla Software Updates](https: www.tesla.com support software-updates). **Release Note Highlights**: - GPS Update - Fallout Shelter Game Added - Theater Mode Improvements (scroll wheel control when in full screen) - TRAX Improvements Track your vehicle stats and see past updates: - [Software Updates Wiki](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates) \\- Past Megathreads + other information. - Teslascope - Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. - TeslaFi - Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. Discover anything specific? Such as new Autopilot capabilities changes in the overall UI or known bugs that have been fixed share your findings here! Keep in mind some features may or may not be available based on your Model Model Year MCU Version Autopilot Hardware Version or Geographic Location. Software versions may not be in order and are deployed in batches.
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Won t be a popular opinion but I m ok with S and X getting updates first
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Wonder why no model 3s with this yet. I m always late to the party on getting updates so can someone post of sentry mode works again once you get this? :) Edit: looks like 3 and y are getting 2020.16.3 instead... For now.
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gwmx1w
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2020.20.x Software Update Megathread 2020.20.x has now rolled out to more than 5% of the fleet and working its way out to more vehicles! Learn more about [Tesla Software Updates](https: www.tesla.com support software-updates). **Release Note Highlights**: - GPS Update - Fallout Shelter Game Added - Theater Mode Improvements (scroll wheel control when in full screen) - TRAX Improvements Track your vehicle stats and see past updates: - [Software Updates Wiki](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates) \\- Past Megathreads + other information. - Teslascope - Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. - TeslaFi - Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. Discover anything specific? Such as new Autopilot capabilities changes in the overall UI or known bugs that have been fixed share your findings here! Keep in mind some features may or may not be available based on your Model Model Year MCU Version Autopilot Hardware Version or Geographic Location. Software versions may not be in order and are deployed in batches.
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Spotify integration is still shit but hey at least we got fucking Fallout Shelter s
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Wonder why no model 3s with this yet. I m always late to the party on getting updates so can someone post of sentry mode works again once you get this? :) Edit: looks like 3 and y are getting 2020.16.3 instead... For now.
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gwmx1w
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2020.20.x Software Update Megathread 2020.20.x has now rolled out to more than 5% of the fleet and working its way out to more vehicles! Learn more about [Tesla Software Updates](https: www.tesla.com support software-updates). **Release Note Highlights**: - GPS Update - Fallout Shelter Game Added - Theater Mode Improvements (scroll wheel control when in full screen) - TRAX Improvements Track your vehicle stats and see past updates: - [Software Updates Wiki](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates) \\- Past Megathreads + other information. - Teslascope - Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. - TeslaFi - Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. Discover anything specific? Such as new Autopilot capabilities changes in the overall UI or known bugs that have been fixed share your findings here! Keep in mind some features may or may not be available based on your Model Model Year MCU Version Autopilot Hardware Version or Geographic Location. Software versions may not be in order and are deployed in batches.
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Looks like 2020.20.1 is mainly pre-HW3 vehicles. I can only dream that means the big rewrite for the FSD computer is coming soon.
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Got it in my car yesterday 2017 Model S 75D with AP2.5 and MCU1. All I got from the update is minor bug fixes hah.
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gwqwc6
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If anyone is looking at used cars from Tesla I just was offered 2.34% rate for my loan from Tesla (Chase). Used model 3 LR RWD. Hopefully I will pick it up soon! I m super excited about the car (and that interest rate)! Edit for curiosity: 2018 22k miles $40 200 before downpayment 60 month term CA
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Congrats. This is an amazing rate. They gave us 2.8% for a 834 credit score. Luckily the Insurance gave us a large sum for our totaled BRZ which we used to pay off our Tesla Model 3. Fortunately we recorded the accident or it would be harder to get the money. We documented the accident and the pay off https: youtu.be o8RuHrH7_eA
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what year how many miles & what price?
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gx8sre
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Does anyone regret buying a Model 3 (or any other Tesla)? Why? I know this is maybe not the most objective place to ask this but I ve posted elsewhere as well. I m a realtor and just sold my 2010 BMW 335i. I need to replace it. The Tesla is way more than I intended to spend but people just keep recommending it it keeps growing on me and I think I could swing it. People rave left and right about them. There were things I loved about my BMW (speed comfort handling) but maintenance was going to be a nightmare at the 20k miles year I was on track for. Let s hear the bad shit about the Tesla. Who wishes they d bought something else and why? EV just not for you? Should have bought a different Tesla? Did you buy the wrong Model 3? Is the Performance worth it? Quick edit to piggy-back on my own post: How do YOU charge? I own a house but have no garage. Where I would park the car is right next to the house but outside and on the south side of the house so it gets sun all day. Can I charge in the rain snow heat? I would have to get 220 installed out there but that would be easy. I m just concerned about having a convenient and weatherproof charging setup. New edit: I drove a Model 3 (Performance) and a Model S today. Honestly I was a little underwhelmed. The 3 is fast and there s no denying it but it wasn t something that blew me away. I think I just read so many incredible reviews that I put the bar way too high. The salesman was cool but seemed like he was too busy to really help me. I said Sell me a car! and he said The car will sell itself! And then they seemed to just step back and see if that would happen. The car is cool and I d say there s a 75% chance I ll get one but I was less than impressed with my experience at the Tesla service center in Salt Lake. I drove the S because I came back from my drive in the 3 and was unable to figure out how to use auto pilot so they let me take an S out to try it since all their 3s were out again. I feel like auto pilot is a big thing with these cars and it wasn t even covered in the pre-drive run-down. It was all so rushed.
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Yes. I will have to buy Teslas for the rest of my life now.
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I bought the Performance Model 3 zero regrets.
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gx8sre
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Does anyone regret buying a Model 3 (or any other Tesla)? Why? I know this is maybe not the most objective place to ask this but I ve posted elsewhere as well. I m a realtor and just sold my 2010 BMW 335i. I need to replace it. The Tesla is way more than I intended to spend but people just keep recommending it it keeps growing on me and I think I could swing it. People rave left and right about them. There were things I loved about my BMW (speed comfort handling) but maintenance was going to be a nightmare at the 20k miles year I was on track for. Let s hear the bad shit about the Tesla. Who wishes they d bought something else and why? EV just not for you? Should have bought a different Tesla? Did you buy the wrong Model 3? Is the Performance worth it? Quick edit to piggy-back on my own post: How do YOU charge? I own a house but have no garage. Where I would park the car is right next to the house but outside and on the south side of the house so it gets sun all day. Can I charge in the rain snow heat? I would have to get 220 installed out there but that would be easy. I m just concerned about having a convenient and weatherproof charging setup. New edit: I drove a Model 3 (Performance) and a Model S today. Honestly I was a little underwhelmed. The 3 is fast and there s no denying it but it wasn t something that blew me away. I think I just read so many incredible reviews that I put the bar way too high. The salesman was cool but seemed like he was too busy to really help me. I said Sell me a car! and he said The car will sell itself! And then they seemed to just step back and see if that would happen. The car is cool and I d say there s a 75% chance I ll get one but I was less than impressed with my experience at the Tesla service center in Salt Lake. I drove the S because I came back from my drive in the 3 and was unable to figure out how to use auto pilot so they let me take an S out to try it since all their 3s were out again. I feel like auto pilot is a big thing with these cars and it wasn t even covered in the pre-drive run-down. It was all so rushed.
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Only because you mentioned BMW I once got a new 2020 3 series as a loaner while getting the HW3 upgrade for my Model 3. I was actually excited because I had never driven a BMW before and only knew of their positive reputation. What a disappointment. After being used to the instant and smooth torque of the Model 3 the BMW felt so clunky. The infotainment system was absolutely horrible—slow and unintuitive. Needless to say I was very happy to return it and get my Model 3 back.
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I d only regret it if Audi Mercedes had an equivalent FSD feature. I love my P3D for the tech but honestly the build quality just isn t what I m used to from Audi. My Tesla has been in the shop 3 times for odd rattles creaks they re all fixed now but I still notice the panel gaps and paint issues. If I could get an ICE audi mercedes with the samce tech as Tesla I d sell my P3D and get an RS5 GTS in a heartbeat.
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gx8sre
| 44 |
Does anyone regret buying a Model 3 (or any other Tesla)? Why? I know this is maybe not the most objective place to ask this but I ve posted elsewhere as well. I m a realtor and just sold my 2010 BMW 335i. I need to replace it. The Tesla is way more than I intended to spend but people just keep recommending it it keeps growing on me and I think I could swing it. People rave left and right about them. There were things I loved about my BMW (speed comfort handling) but maintenance was going to be a nightmare at the 20k miles year I was on track for. Let s hear the bad shit about the Tesla. Who wishes they d bought something else and why? EV just not for you? Should have bought a different Tesla? Did you buy the wrong Model 3? Is the Performance worth it? Quick edit to piggy-back on my own post: How do YOU charge? I own a house but have no garage. Where I would park the car is right next to the house but outside and on the south side of the house so it gets sun all day. Can I charge in the rain snow heat? I would have to get 220 installed out there but that would be easy. I m just concerned about having a convenient and weatherproof charging setup. New edit: I drove a Model 3 (Performance) and a Model S today. Honestly I was a little underwhelmed. The 3 is fast and there s no denying it but it wasn t something that blew me away. I think I just read so many incredible reviews that I put the bar way too high. The salesman was cool but seemed like he was too busy to really help me. I said Sell me a car! and he said The car will sell itself! And then they seemed to just step back and see if that would happen. The car is cool and I d say there s a 75% chance I ll get one but I was less than impressed with my experience at the Tesla service center in Salt Lake. I drove the S because I came back from my drive in the 3 and was unable to figure out how to use auto pilot so they let me take an S out to try it since all their 3s were out again. I feel like auto pilot is a big thing with these cars and it wasn t even covered in the pre-drive run-down. It was all so rushed.
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I regret getting the AWD and not the Performance other than that it s absolutely amazing.
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I d only regret it if Audi Mercedes had an equivalent FSD feature. I love my P3D for the tech but honestly the build quality just isn t what I m used to from Audi. My Tesla has been in the shop 3 times for odd rattles creaks they re all fixed now but I still notice the panel gaps and paint issues. If I could get an ICE audi mercedes with the samce tech as Tesla I d sell my P3D and get an RS5 GTS in a heartbeat.
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gxeszh
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WSJ: Is Tesla s Model Y Crossover the World s Best Car? https: www.wsj.com articles is-teslas-model-y-crossover-the-worlds-best-car-11591365620
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This is a very important article for Tesla. The WSJ has extremely high credibility and a more conservative audience. Getting this kind of ringing endorsement from the WSJ can go a long way toward broadening Tesla ownership to a wider demographic.
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Is there a trick to defeating the WSJ paywall?
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gxeszh
| 580 |
WSJ: Is Tesla s Model Y Crossover the World s Best Car? https: www.wsj.com articles is-teslas-model-y-crossover-the-worlds-best-car-11591365620
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This is a very important article for Tesla. The WSJ has extremely high credibility and a more conservative audience. Getting this kind of ringing endorsement from the WSJ can go a long way toward broadening Tesla ownership to a wider demographic.
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> powering an induction motor in front and a larger permanent magnet motor in the rear. Is this true? I thought both motors in the 3 and Y were permanent magnet.
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gxeszh
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WSJ: Is Tesla s Model Y Crossover the World s Best Car? https: www.wsj.com articles is-teslas-model-y-crossover-the-worlds-best-car-11591365620
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someone once told me if you search wsj article titles in google you can avoid paywall. they don t want to avoid clicks from search engines results https: www.google.com amp s www.wsj.com amp articles is-teslas-model-y-crossover-the-worlds-best-car-11591365620
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Is there a trick to defeating the WSJ paywall?
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gxfjtv
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Road Trip! I borrowed my buddy s model 3 LR 2020 to go on a 3-hour road trip to Montauk Long Island. My girlfriend and I were both blown away by the car it s literally perfect. During the drive back to NYC we got into a discussion on how we see so many people giving knit picky complaints all over the internet about the Model 3 when in reality there s nothing negative to say about the car.
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You ll naturally see a lot of negatives on a forum as people want to vent. Majority of people on here are fanatical about their cars and likely won t ever go back to an ICE But but real question...as you ve driven one when are you buying one?
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It is easy to nitpick anything.
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gxrbd3
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Been a lurker for two years and was going to join this forum by being a owner this summer. Hi. I hope this is ok. It s about life. I really wanted to join this forum. This might be a long read. Not sure if this is a rant. Maybe a scream maybe a life tip. I actually still have my 1000 deposit with Tesla since 2018. Its been hard to say yes to a test drive because I know if I did I would of bought the car the same day. I know everything about the Model 3 I see all the YouTube videos. Read the forum almost everyday. Thanks to all the experience I read here. I been wanting a Model 3 + for two years I have been saving $. Been close to buying it quite a few times. This summer was it I can put down 25% and have monthly payment of car and insurance of below 20% of my monthly income I was set. With COVID 19 I was going to wait since I m working from home. Unfortunately It s not meant to be. I have cancer now. Life is different. Life is short. Got medical bills so until I fight this the car will have to wait. I will be doing a test drive for my Birthday. At least. Pretty excited. Enjoy life. Enjoy the car. TL DR Have cancer no car for me.
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Here s what s going to happen: 1. You will beat the cancer. 2. Owning that Model 3 will be **even sweeter** Best of luck
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Wishing you a speedy recovery! What country are you in?
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gxrbd3
| 2,203 |
Been a lurker for two years and was going to join this forum by being a owner this summer. Hi. I hope this is ok. It s about life. I really wanted to join this forum. This might be a long read. Not sure if this is a rant. Maybe a scream maybe a life tip. I actually still have my 1000 deposit with Tesla since 2018. Its been hard to say yes to a test drive because I know if I did I would of bought the car the same day. I know everything about the Model 3 I see all the YouTube videos. Read the forum almost everyday. Thanks to all the experience I read here. I been wanting a Model 3 + for two years I have been saving $. Been close to buying it quite a few times. This summer was it I can put down 25% and have monthly payment of car and insurance of below 20% of my monthly income I was set. With COVID 19 I was going to wait since I m working from home. Unfortunately It s not meant to be. I have cancer now. Life is different. Life is short. Got medical bills so until I fight this the car will have to wait. I will be doing a test drive for my Birthday. At least. Pretty excited. Enjoy life. Enjoy the car. TL DR Have cancer no car for me.
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Here s what s going to happen: 1. You will beat the cancer. 2. Owning that Model 3 will be **even sweeter** Best of luck
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Do what you love and dont let anything stopping from your dreams that s my dream car too and im only 19. You will make it you can get through anything. You ll be driving that Tesla i know it. Stay strong and live your life with no regrets
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gxrbd3
| 2,203 |
Been a lurker for two years and was going to join this forum by being a owner this summer. Hi. I hope this is ok. It s about life. I really wanted to join this forum. This might be a long read. Not sure if this is a rant. Maybe a scream maybe a life tip. I actually still have my 1000 deposit with Tesla since 2018. Its been hard to say yes to a test drive because I know if I did I would of bought the car the same day. I know everything about the Model 3 I see all the YouTube videos. Read the forum almost everyday. Thanks to all the experience I read here. I been wanting a Model 3 + for two years I have been saving $. Been close to buying it quite a few times. This summer was it I can put down 25% and have monthly payment of car and insurance of below 20% of my monthly income I was set. With COVID 19 I was going to wait since I m working from home. Unfortunately It s not meant to be. I have cancer now. Life is different. Life is short. Got medical bills so until I fight this the car will have to wait. I will be doing a test drive for my Birthday. At least. Pretty excited. Enjoy life. Enjoy the car. TL DR Have cancer no car for me.
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Here s what s going to happen: 1. You will beat the cancer. 2. Owning that Model 3 will be **even sweeter** Best of luck
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Get well soon :)
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gxt92h
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Why is Tesla so incompetent? I ordered a car in existing inventory. Scheduled my appointment two weeks ago. Here I am on scheduled delivery day 3 hours past my delivery hour im told they are unable to contact the driver who is bringing my car to the dealer and to come back another day. Why would they wait until the absolute last minute to drive the car to the destination dealer. If I knew that I would have just made the 3 hour drive myself. I cannot understand how you can just lose a $100 000 car. Unbelievable. Anyway downvote away but I had to vent. EDIT: In the space of 3 hours I have been given 3 separate delivery days next week - Monday then bumped to Tuesday now Wednesday. To move a car 120 miles.
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Fun fact: I ordered a black Model 3 back in 2018 during the initial ramp up. The day before delivery the store called regarding the pre-delivery checklist. He said: Everything checks out except the colour is wrong. You ordered black and the VIN assigned to this car is black but somehow the car is silver. The VIN indeed shows it should be black. On the order spreadsheet filled by owners: there are other model 3s in the same VIN block as mine and they are all black. The delivery specialist was dumbfounded as he had never seen this before. Anyway the store manager decided to sell the car to me at no extra cost of the colour upgrade. Now I m one of the few owners of of the rare silver Model 3. -)
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My delivery center confirmed once they got it on their lot and then wanted to check it Out and detail first so took a few days once they got it. Once you get it you will love It!
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gxt92h
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Why is Tesla so incompetent? I ordered a car in existing inventory. Scheduled my appointment two weeks ago. Here I am on scheduled delivery day 3 hours past my delivery hour im told they are unable to contact the driver who is bringing my car to the dealer and to come back another day. Why would they wait until the absolute last minute to drive the car to the destination dealer. If I knew that I would have just made the 3 hour drive myself. I cannot understand how you can just lose a $100 000 car. Unbelievable. Anyway downvote away but I had to vent. EDIT: In the space of 3 hours I have been given 3 separate delivery days next week - Monday then bumped to Tuesday now Wednesday. To move a car 120 miles.
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Fun fact: I ordered a black Model 3 back in 2018 during the initial ramp up. The day before delivery the store called regarding the pre-delivery checklist. He said: Everything checks out except the colour is wrong. You ordered black and the VIN assigned to this car is black but somehow the car is silver. The VIN indeed shows it should be black. On the order spreadsheet filled by owners: there are other model 3s in the same VIN block as mine and they are all black. The delivery specialist was dumbfounded as he had never seen this before. Anyway the store manager decided to sell the car to me at no extra cost of the colour upgrade. Now I m one of the few owners of of the rare silver Model 3. -)
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Scheduling and last-mile logistics are a very customer service manually focused part of the operation. It s no wonder their bad at it. They are very focused on workflow automation and over-engineer this role. There s a reason most companies still manually do large purchase customer service manually.
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gxt92h
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Why is Tesla so incompetent? I ordered a car in existing inventory. Scheduled my appointment two weeks ago. Here I am on scheduled delivery day 3 hours past my delivery hour im told they are unable to contact the driver who is bringing my car to the dealer and to come back another day. Why would they wait until the absolute last minute to drive the car to the destination dealer. If I knew that I would have just made the 3 hour drive myself. I cannot understand how you can just lose a $100 000 car. Unbelievable. Anyway downvote away but I had to vent. EDIT: In the space of 3 hours I have been given 3 separate delivery days next week - Monday then bumped to Tuesday now Wednesday. To move a car 120 miles.
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Fun fact: I ordered a black Model 3 back in 2018 during the initial ramp up. The day before delivery the store called regarding the pre-delivery checklist. He said: Everything checks out except the colour is wrong. You ordered black and the VIN assigned to this car is black but somehow the car is silver. The VIN indeed shows it should be black. On the order spreadsheet filled by owners: there are other model 3s in the same VIN block as mine and they are all black. The delivery specialist was dumbfounded as he had never seen this before. Anyway the store manager decided to sell the car to me at no extra cost of the colour upgrade. Now I m one of the few owners of of the rare silver Model 3. -)
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Fuck fanboyz. Reality based facts & communication reinforce trust and will promote EVs in general and Tesla specifically. Downvote that.
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gxta2p
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Spotify improvements - gapless playback option and collaborative playlists - upvotes needed to make them do it. For improvements to Spotify we can hand in ideas which need to be voted on in order to get introduced. The amount of Tesla owners on the Spotify idea page probably isn t that high compared to all other users so I m kindly asking you to please upvote and or submit other ideas. Feel free to add your vote links below. Gapless playback: https: community.spotify.com t5 Live-Ideas Tesla-Gapless-Playback idi-p 4970959 Making collaborative playlists visible: https: community.spotify.com t5 Live-Ideas Tesla-Make-collaborative-playlists-viewable-in-native-app idi-p 4970962 Edit: For a change I d rather prefer to have those upvotes on the spotify idea site instead of getting reddit karma. Edit#2: IT S IN! Both features were added with 2020.48.12
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First they need to actually fix what they have. I get constant loading errors. Playlist playback is utterly broken with loading errors and playing the same few songs over and over again when you listen to a playlist in random order. The USB music player has been broken for a couple of years now. As much as I love all the fun and games they really need to fix the music player.
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Didn t know this was a thing! Signed in and upvoted. P.S. If it won t let you vote after signing in try leaving a comment and it will prompt you to create a username. Then you ll be able to upvote.
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gy2mkz
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2020.20.5 Release Notes – GPS Update Fallout Shelter and more! Another big rollout of 2020.20.5 is underway for all models. Here are the release notes for this software update! You can view the smart release notes (with which countries and hardware requirements) [here](https: teslascope.com teslapedia software 2020.20.5). **GPS Update** We have updated your car s GPS to improve its stability and tracking. Please note that with this update the GPS in your car will temporarily recalibrate once after the update which might cause a few minutes delay in where updating your car s position is displayed on the map. **Fallout Shelter** Fallout Shelter puts you in control of a state-of-the-art underground Vault from Vault-Tec. Build the perfect Vault keep your Dwellers happy and protect them from the dangers of the Wasteland. To play Fallout Shelter tap Entertainment from the Application Launcher then Arcade > Fallout Shelter. **Theater Mode Improvements** With this release you can now play pause and skip video playback with your steering wheel controls while using Theater Mode. As usual Theater Mode is only available while your vehicle is in PARK. **TRAX Improvements** We have added a piano roll view that allows you to edit and fine tune notes in a track. You can now tap in view to create a note move or resize it by dragging the tail end of a note and delete it with a long press. To play a note sound simply hold and move the notes. In addition when you tap the record button a metronome beat will play to make it easier for you to record at the desired time. *This release contains minor improvements and bug fixes.* Source: [Teslascope](https: teslascope.com teslapedia software 2020.20.5)
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Will this GPS update be the solution to phantom braking due to the vehicle thinking it s on a side access road or overpass? Also looks like it s HW3 only on Teslascope...
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When I left my office building I had issues with the GPS becoming out of sync after I left the parking garage (the area around the office is very shady) Hopefully this will improve things. I guess I will need to wait until COVID blows over to test it out...
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gysero
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4 things my BMW 5 series did better than my M3P... So I ve officially completed just over a month with my M3P and I m in love. As a daily commuter it s just brilliant. Simple comfortable and very satisfying to drive. With that said there are a few things that seem glaringly inferior when compared to my previous experience with BMW. Full disclosure: I m a car fanatic and pledge loyalty to no brand. I love cars for what they are and rotate through new cars every 12-16 months or so because I love to try new things. There s no hate to Tesla here just some observations on what I think could be easily improved via software. **1. Deactivating the car alarm is an utter FAIL.** So using your mobile phone (iPhone 11 Pro here) as the car s key is brilliant. While it isn t perfect and can take a moment to connect via Bluetooth when approaching the car sometimes it s mostly pretty flawless. I really enjoy the experience. It s something I love *except* when the alarm unintentionally goes off. One really poor example is when I went into a restaurant to grab take-out while my wife and 2 young daughters stayed in the car. I set HVAC to stay on and brought my phone in with me for mobile payments. As I was returning to my car my wife opened the passenger door to grab the food from me. But because my phone hadn t connected via Bluetooth yet her opening the door triggered the alarm by opening the door from within. This immediately triggered the alarm. If you haven t experienced the alarm here s a quick synopsis of what its like. It s ALARMING ) Now imagine what it s like being inside the car still. Heavy metal Bach music is blaring at 5000% volume and there is NO obvious way to minimize the volume (due to lack of volume knob like a traditional car). I mean I get that it makes sense to add it because its the alarm but seriously it was dangerously loud for an adult let alone a very young child inside the car. Of course anyone standing in front of their car is going to feel befuddled as they grope around their pockets for their key to disable the alarm only to remember that your phone is your key. Now you have to grab your phone unlock it open the Tesla app and then unlock your car all while your occupants are having their eardrums melted by the modern theft-deterrent system blasting heavy metal at 5000% volume. A traditional car could be deactivated by jamming a button on your key fob while the keys are still in your pocket. As a first-time Tesla phone-key alarm deactivator there was simply NO warning or preparation for this kind of experience. Totally not cool. This seems like a glaring oversight. Not only was it an embarrassing experience for me and my family but also any bystander who doesn t appreciate Teslas would be watching as music is blasting and thinking why the heck would I want my car to do that? Worse though what if there was an infant in their car seat while my wife was also in the car? That could cause literal physical damage to a very young baby and there is NO apparent way to turn off any alarm quickly. Serious fail. C mon Elon. * There has to be a better way to deactivate the alarm or proactively determine what sets off an alarm. For the latter why can t it use the seat sensors to sense whether someone is in the car? Or the internal camera? Or use the HVAC setting to leave it On when I leave the car (or combination of both) to predict that someone may still be in the car. Or best yet once the phone has connected via Bluetooth deactivate the alarm. Or a push notification on my phone pops up to deactivate quickly. Finally a deactivation method to type in a 4-digit pin on the screen would have been VERY helpful in this situation. But without any warning the pin may not have been super obvious. While I love the Model 3s minimalism and simplicity there doesn t seem to be enough oversight on this functionality and how one would want disarm false alarms. It made me embarrassed to own a Tesla to say the least and the 5 people watching us nearby were probably assuming that Tesla drivers love blasting annoying music and pissing everyone off around them. **2. Remind the driver that they left their phone in the wireless charging tray.** It s only been a month but I ve left my phone in the charging tray at least a dozen times now after leaving the car. Since I use the phone as my key this is kind of a problem. My (18+) BMW M5 would notify me on the dash and with an audible signal that a phone is in the charging tray whenever I put it into park and opened the driver s door. Considering that the UI notifies me when I m closing the center console too hard (and it not sticking) I think this is a simple request. * PLEASE can you just set up a UI reminder that I have a phone to grab especially because it is THE KEY? You could even make it a toggle in case people don t like it. **3. Tesla is known for its automated (or semi-automated) driving capabilities but my BMW was superior in two simple ways.** When activated on the freeway my BMW seemed far more simple in its semi-automated driving. First the steering wheel resistance amount required on my M3P to not trigger a warning hands on the wheel seems far too little on the M3P. I ll have my hands on the wheel and it won t detect them. While that is kind of annoying it gets worse when you apply some resistance and accidentally kick it out of autopilot. Second the more frustrating part is that once you kick it out of autopilot you have to manually reactivate it. My BMW would automatically turn back on once you put your hands on the wheel and even after changing lanes. It would stay on completely until you turned it off. When I change lanes in the M3P it deactivates autopilot and then you have to turn it back on. It gets old after about 3 times of doing this and then you just don t want to use the feature anymore because of how annoying it is. * Allow Autopilot to turn back on after a lane change. I don t want to have to think about Autopilot again when I feel the need to take over the car temporarily. Thirdly the reactivity of the active cruise control to decelerate when approaching a car in front seems far more excessive than the BMW did. It will decelerate in a much more extreme way and is quite jarring in some instances. This would require a more refined sensitivity level but just my opinion on this last one. **4. Allow users to adjust the lower UI controls.** I think the UI in the M3 is far superior than the MS I drove in 2018. The always-on controls on the bottom of the screen are helpful but I would LOVE the ability to customize them. Two things I will likely never use in AZ: the front or rear defroster and the seat heaters. That takes up valuable UI space for something I would rather have: 1) rear HVAC on off 2) Fan speed (non auto mode) 3) other. For #1 since I live in AZ the AC will be used basically ever day for 9 months. I would love a quick toggle to turn the rear AC on and off. Sometimes I have the kiddos with me sometimes I don t. Right now I leave it always on so I don t have to mess with it but obviously that uses more energy than needed. This would be quite welcome. For #2 when in auto mode the fan speeds adjust based on the thermostat setting. But if you don t want it in auto then you have to enter the additional HVAC menu and make adjustments there. I d love to manually control fan speed from the lower permanent UI than having to go into a menu. For #3 I love seeing the energy consumption graph. Not a deal breaker that it takes 2 taps to get there but I ll never use the heated seats or front rear defroster icons. I don t need those taking up 20% of icon space especially when I accidentally turn on the heated seat when reaching for the HVAC temp control. * Suggestion: allow users to edit the lower UI icons. Take a play from Apple (or any other smartphone) and allow your main buttons to be customizable. The Macbook s Touch Bar is completely customizable and has a very intuitive interface to do so. \\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_ These are just a few. Is there a better place to share this feedback with Tesla? Or do reps scour reddit for this kind of feedback?
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Thankfully the Tesla has indicators unlike the.. OK kidding kidding. I had and enjoyed a 335 for many years. Would dog mode have fixed your issue in 1.? I used it today with the wife and kid in the car and took my phone and it all seemed to do as expected.
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For 3 to allow autopilot back on after lane change you need FSD for that we pay more money for this feature don t forget one thing Tesla can be updated and always you will find new feature and enhanced current feature while other cannot at least currently
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gysero
| 1,131 |
4 things my BMW 5 series did better than my M3P... So I ve officially completed just over a month with my M3P and I m in love. As a daily commuter it s just brilliant. Simple comfortable and very satisfying to drive. With that said there are a few things that seem glaringly inferior when compared to my previous experience with BMW. Full disclosure: I m a car fanatic and pledge loyalty to no brand. I love cars for what they are and rotate through new cars every 12-16 months or so because I love to try new things. There s no hate to Tesla here just some observations on what I think could be easily improved via software. **1. Deactivating the car alarm is an utter FAIL.** So using your mobile phone (iPhone 11 Pro here) as the car s key is brilliant. While it isn t perfect and can take a moment to connect via Bluetooth when approaching the car sometimes it s mostly pretty flawless. I really enjoy the experience. It s something I love *except* when the alarm unintentionally goes off. One really poor example is when I went into a restaurant to grab take-out while my wife and 2 young daughters stayed in the car. I set HVAC to stay on and brought my phone in with me for mobile payments. As I was returning to my car my wife opened the passenger door to grab the food from me. But because my phone hadn t connected via Bluetooth yet her opening the door triggered the alarm by opening the door from within. This immediately triggered the alarm. If you haven t experienced the alarm here s a quick synopsis of what its like. It s ALARMING ) Now imagine what it s like being inside the car still. Heavy metal Bach music is blaring at 5000% volume and there is NO obvious way to minimize the volume (due to lack of volume knob like a traditional car). I mean I get that it makes sense to add it because its the alarm but seriously it was dangerously loud for an adult let alone a very young child inside the car. Of course anyone standing in front of their car is going to feel befuddled as they grope around their pockets for their key to disable the alarm only to remember that your phone is your key. Now you have to grab your phone unlock it open the Tesla app and then unlock your car all while your occupants are having their eardrums melted by the modern theft-deterrent system blasting heavy metal at 5000% volume. A traditional car could be deactivated by jamming a button on your key fob while the keys are still in your pocket. As a first-time Tesla phone-key alarm deactivator there was simply NO warning or preparation for this kind of experience. Totally not cool. This seems like a glaring oversight. Not only was it an embarrassing experience for me and my family but also any bystander who doesn t appreciate Teslas would be watching as music is blasting and thinking why the heck would I want my car to do that? Worse though what if there was an infant in their car seat while my wife was also in the car? That could cause literal physical damage to a very young baby and there is NO apparent way to turn off any alarm quickly. Serious fail. C mon Elon. * There has to be a better way to deactivate the alarm or proactively determine what sets off an alarm. For the latter why can t it use the seat sensors to sense whether someone is in the car? Or the internal camera? Or use the HVAC setting to leave it On when I leave the car (or combination of both) to predict that someone may still be in the car. Or best yet once the phone has connected via Bluetooth deactivate the alarm. Or a push notification on my phone pops up to deactivate quickly. Finally a deactivation method to type in a 4-digit pin on the screen would have been VERY helpful in this situation. But without any warning the pin may not have been super obvious. While I love the Model 3s minimalism and simplicity there doesn t seem to be enough oversight on this functionality and how one would want disarm false alarms. It made me embarrassed to own a Tesla to say the least and the 5 people watching us nearby were probably assuming that Tesla drivers love blasting annoying music and pissing everyone off around them. **2. Remind the driver that they left their phone in the wireless charging tray.** It s only been a month but I ve left my phone in the charging tray at least a dozen times now after leaving the car. Since I use the phone as my key this is kind of a problem. My (18+) BMW M5 would notify me on the dash and with an audible signal that a phone is in the charging tray whenever I put it into park and opened the driver s door. Considering that the UI notifies me when I m closing the center console too hard (and it not sticking) I think this is a simple request. * PLEASE can you just set up a UI reminder that I have a phone to grab especially because it is THE KEY? You could even make it a toggle in case people don t like it. **3. Tesla is known for its automated (or semi-automated) driving capabilities but my BMW was superior in two simple ways.** When activated on the freeway my BMW seemed far more simple in its semi-automated driving. First the steering wheel resistance amount required on my M3P to not trigger a warning hands on the wheel seems far too little on the M3P. I ll have my hands on the wheel and it won t detect them. While that is kind of annoying it gets worse when you apply some resistance and accidentally kick it out of autopilot. Second the more frustrating part is that once you kick it out of autopilot you have to manually reactivate it. My BMW would automatically turn back on once you put your hands on the wheel and even after changing lanes. It would stay on completely until you turned it off. When I change lanes in the M3P it deactivates autopilot and then you have to turn it back on. It gets old after about 3 times of doing this and then you just don t want to use the feature anymore because of how annoying it is. * Allow Autopilot to turn back on after a lane change. I don t want to have to think about Autopilot again when I feel the need to take over the car temporarily. Thirdly the reactivity of the active cruise control to decelerate when approaching a car in front seems far more excessive than the BMW did. It will decelerate in a much more extreme way and is quite jarring in some instances. This would require a more refined sensitivity level but just my opinion on this last one. **4. Allow users to adjust the lower UI controls.** I think the UI in the M3 is far superior than the MS I drove in 2018. The always-on controls on the bottom of the screen are helpful but I would LOVE the ability to customize them. Two things I will likely never use in AZ: the front or rear defroster and the seat heaters. That takes up valuable UI space for something I would rather have: 1) rear HVAC on off 2) Fan speed (non auto mode) 3) other. For #1 since I live in AZ the AC will be used basically ever day for 9 months. I would love a quick toggle to turn the rear AC on and off. Sometimes I have the kiddos with me sometimes I don t. Right now I leave it always on so I don t have to mess with it but obviously that uses more energy than needed. This would be quite welcome. For #2 when in auto mode the fan speeds adjust based on the thermostat setting. But if you don t want it in auto then you have to enter the additional HVAC menu and make adjustments there. I d love to manually control fan speed from the lower permanent UI than having to go into a menu. For #3 I love seeing the energy consumption graph. Not a deal breaker that it takes 2 taps to get there but I ll never use the heated seats or front rear defroster icons. I don t need those taking up 20% of icon space especially when I accidentally turn on the heated seat when reaching for the HVAC temp control. * Suggestion: allow users to edit the lower UI icons. Take a play from Apple (or any other smartphone) and allow your main buttons to be customizable. The Macbook s Touch Bar is completely customizable and has a very intuitive interface to do so. \\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_ These are just a few. Is there a better place to share this feedback with Tesla? Or do reps scour reddit for this kind of feedback?
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Thankfully the Tesla has indicators unlike the.. OK kidding kidding. I had and enjoyed a 335 for many years. Would dog mode have fixed your issue in 1.? I used it today with the wife and kid in the car and took my phone and it all seemed to do as expected.
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You need to own FSD for it to change lanes for you without deactivating autopilot
| 327 | 46 | 7,058 |
gysero
| 1,131 |
4 things my BMW 5 series did better than my M3P... So I ve officially completed just over a month with my M3P and I m in love. As a daily commuter it s just brilliant. Simple comfortable and very satisfying to drive. With that said there are a few things that seem glaringly inferior when compared to my previous experience with BMW. Full disclosure: I m a car fanatic and pledge loyalty to no brand. I love cars for what they are and rotate through new cars every 12-16 months or so because I love to try new things. There s no hate to Tesla here just some observations on what I think could be easily improved via software. **1. Deactivating the car alarm is an utter FAIL.** So using your mobile phone (iPhone 11 Pro here) as the car s key is brilliant. While it isn t perfect and can take a moment to connect via Bluetooth when approaching the car sometimes it s mostly pretty flawless. I really enjoy the experience. It s something I love *except* when the alarm unintentionally goes off. One really poor example is when I went into a restaurant to grab take-out while my wife and 2 young daughters stayed in the car. I set HVAC to stay on and brought my phone in with me for mobile payments. As I was returning to my car my wife opened the passenger door to grab the food from me. But because my phone hadn t connected via Bluetooth yet her opening the door triggered the alarm by opening the door from within. This immediately triggered the alarm. If you haven t experienced the alarm here s a quick synopsis of what its like. It s ALARMING ) Now imagine what it s like being inside the car still. Heavy metal Bach music is blaring at 5000% volume and there is NO obvious way to minimize the volume (due to lack of volume knob like a traditional car). I mean I get that it makes sense to add it because its the alarm but seriously it was dangerously loud for an adult let alone a very young child inside the car. Of course anyone standing in front of their car is going to feel befuddled as they grope around their pockets for their key to disable the alarm only to remember that your phone is your key. Now you have to grab your phone unlock it open the Tesla app and then unlock your car all while your occupants are having their eardrums melted by the modern theft-deterrent system blasting heavy metal at 5000% volume. A traditional car could be deactivated by jamming a button on your key fob while the keys are still in your pocket. As a first-time Tesla phone-key alarm deactivator there was simply NO warning or preparation for this kind of experience. Totally not cool. This seems like a glaring oversight. Not only was it an embarrassing experience for me and my family but also any bystander who doesn t appreciate Teslas would be watching as music is blasting and thinking why the heck would I want my car to do that? Worse though what if there was an infant in their car seat while my wife was also in the car? That could cause literal physical damage to a very young baby and there is NO apparent way to turn off any alarm quickly. Serious fail. C mon Elon. * There has to be a better way to deactivate the alarm or proactively determine what sets off an alarm. For the latter why can t it use the seat sensors to sense whether someone is in the car? Or the internal camera? Or use the HVAC setting to leave it On when I leave the car (or combination of both) to predict that someone may still be in the car. Or best yet once the phone has connected via Bluetooth deactivate the alarm. Or a push notification on my phone pops up to deactivate quickly. Finally a deactivation method to type in a 4-digit pin on the screen would have been VERY helpful in this situation. But without any warning the pin may not have been super obvious. While I love the Model 3s minimalism and simplicity there doesn t seem to be enough oversight on this functionality and how one would want disarm false alarms. It made me embarrassed to own a Tesla to say the least and the 5 people watching us nearby were probably assuming that Tesla drivers love blasting annoying music and pissing everyone off around them. **2. Remind the driver that they left their phone in the wireless charging tray.** It s only been a month but I ve left my phone in the charging tray at least a dozen times now after leaving the car. Since I use the phone as my key this is kind of a problem. My (18+) BMW M5 would notify me on the dash and with an audible signal that a phone is in the charging tray whenever I put it into park and opened the driver s door. Considering that the UI notifies me when I m closing the center console too hard (and it not sticking) I think this is a simple request. * PLEASE can you just set up a UI reminder that I have a phone to grab especially because it is THE KEY? You could even make it a toggle in case people don t like it. **3. Tesla is known for its automated (or semi-automated) driving capabilities but my BMW was superior in two simple ways.** When activated on the freeway my BMW seemed far more simple in its semi-automated driving. First the steering wheel resistance amount required on my M3P to not trigger a warning hands on the wheel seems far too little on the M3P. I ll have my hands on the wheel and it won t detect them. While that is kind of annoying it gets worse when you apply some resistance and accidentally kick it out of autopilot. Second the more frustrating part is that once you kick it out of autopilot you have to manually reactivate it. My BMW would automatically turn back on once you put your hands on the wheel and even after changing lanes. It would stay on completely until you turned it off. When I change lanes in the M3P it deactivates autopilot and then you have to turn it back on. It gets old after about 3 times of doing this and then you just don t want to use the feature anymore because of how annoying it is. * Allow Autopilot to turn back on after a lane change. I don t want to have to think about Autopilot again when I feel the need to take over the car temporarily. Thirdly the reactivity of the active cruise control to decelerate when approaching a car in front seems far more excessive than the BMW did. It will decelerate in a much more extreme way and is quite jarring in some instances. This would require a more refined sensitivity level but just my opinion on this last one. **4. Allow users to adjust the lower UI controls.** I think the UI in the M3 is far superior than the MS I drove in 2018. The always-on controls on the bottom of the screen are helpful but I would LOVE the ability to customize them. Two things I will likely never use in AZ: the front or rear defroster and the seat heaters. That takes up valuable UI space for something I would rather have: 1) rear HVAC on off 2) Fan speed (non auto mode) 3) other. For #1 since I live in AZ the AC will be used basically ever day for 9 months. I would love a quick toggle to turn the rear AC on and off. Sometimes I have the kiddos with me sometimes I don t. Right now I leave it always on so I don t have to mess with it but obviously that uses more energy than needed. This would be quite welcome. For #2 when in auto mode the fan speeds adjust based on the thermostat setting. But if you don t want it in auto then you have to enter the additional HVAC menu and make adjustments there. I d love to manually control fan speed from the lower permanent UI than having to go into a menu. For #3 I love seeing the energy consumption graph. Not a deal breaker that it takes 2 taps to get there but I ll never use the heated seats or front rear defroster icons. I don t need those taking up 20% of icon space especially when I accidentally turn on the heated seat when reaching for the HVAC temp control. * Suggestion: allow users to edit the lower UI icons. Take a play from Apple (or any other smartphone) and allow your main buttons to be customizable. The Macbook s Touch Bar is completely customizable and has a very intuitive interface to do so. \\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_ These are just a few. Is there a better place to share this feedback with Tesla? Or do reps scour reddit for this kind of feedback?
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Thankfully the Tesla has indicators unlike the.. OK kidding kidding. I had and enjoyed a 335 for many years. Would dog mode have fixed your issue in 1.? I used it today with the wife and kid in the car and took my phone and it all seemed to do as expected.
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> Thirdly the reactivity of the active cruise control to decelerate when approaching a car in front seems far more excessive than the BMW did. It will decelerate in a much more extreme way and is quite jarring in some instances. This would require a more refined sensitivity level but just my opinion on this last one. Adjust your TACC following distance and it ll probably help. I d make a BMW driver joke here but honestly most people follow too closely.
| 327 | 157 | 7,059 |
gzp3zh
| 135 |
I finally test drove the Model Y and I left loving our Model 3 even more... I really wanted to like the Model Y but it s not the crossover my wife and I were hoping for. If we got a second Tesla right now it would likely still be a Model Y just for the cargo room but I think we d still fight over who got the Model 3. I definitely don t think the Model Y is “the best Tesla ever made” as so many reviewers have stated. I do think it will fit *some* people better than the Model 3 but I think the Model 3 is a better sedan than the Model Y is a crossover. 1. The hatch is too low for our dog to comfortably ride in the back which is priority #1 in getting something other than a sedan for our family. This was the biggest disappointment for us. Yes he could lie down. Yes he could technically stand up if he were close to the back of the rear seats. No this isn t going to be an acceptable way to travel with our dog. 2. Even the Performance Model Y with the Performance Upgrade Package didn t feel as sporty as our non-P Dual Motor Model 3. This is expected as a heavier taller vehicle is going to be harder to turn and roll more when you do. Even though this wasn t surprising it is still a trade off that favors the Model 3. 3. Visibility through the rear view mirror is way worse than I had imagined. You really have to experience it to understand how bad I think. “That s what the rear camera is for ” you might say. Well I like using my rear view mirror for more than backing up but the UX doesn t allow the rear camera and navigation open at the same time. I think it will soon though as it is the only way to quickly see what vehicles are behind you and overtaking you with one quick glance instead of three (each side mirror and the rear view mirror). 4. I watched quite a few Model Y reviews with hundreds of thousands of views and not one made any mention of the rear crossbeam being an issue for headroom let alone rear passenger safety. I m only 5 8” and my head solidly hit that crossbeam unless the seat was straight up. It s not just a comfort issue but it could be a big safety issue. I wish independent crash tests included rear end collisions with dummies in all seating positions but typically seats are tested on sleds outside of the vehicle. That will do nothing to see how a rear passenger would fare in a rear end collision with the seat reclined. This really concerns me as the father of a teen whose hormones drown out the part of the brain where her common sense resides (just like all of her friends). Scrub to 10:27 at this video to see what I m talking about: https: youtu.be -V1YNsUGQI0 TL DR If you re considering a Model Y drive one and sit in the back with the seats at all positions to know what you re getting and what you re giving up over getting a Model 3 instead. The Model 3 is still the coolest thing of any kind I ve ever bought and I think a lot of people who *think* they want a Model Y will end up being happier with a Model 3.
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Rear visibility... Let me introduce you to the 7 seat Model X. I ve never been in a Y but I m positive that the X has worst visibility. But thanks to the bigger screen I can always have the rear camera on along with navigation.
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If an adult can t sit in the second row just imagine what the 3rd row will be like
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gzrecz
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Any tips for a new Tesla owner? Looking to buy within the next month. Pros and Cons? Would love to hear everyone s experiences with a Tesla. I ll be getting the Standard Range 2020 Model 3.
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Biggest tip for a new owner: right away go into Settings and set Energy Display to “Percent” instead of “miles km”. #1 frustration for new owners is “OMG I drove 50 miles and range dropped 65 miles HELLLLLLP” and “charged yesterday to 310 miles today it charged to only 309 miles. IS MY BATTERY TOAST?!?” Just set it to show your battery charge in % and forget about it. The navigation will show you estimated battery remaining when you get to your destination and round trip and it s very accurate. Use that to gauge your range.
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Do you have access to charging somewhere you already are as in work or home?
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gzrecz
| 21 |
Any tips for a new Tesla owner? Looking to buy within the next month. Pros and Cons? Would love to hear everyone s experiences with a Tesla. I ll be getting the Standard Range 2020 Model 3.
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Biggest tip for a new owner: right away go into Settings and set Energy Display to “Percent” instead of “miles km”. #1 frustration for new owners is “OMG I drove 50 miles and range dropped 65 miles HELLLLLLP” and “charged yesterday to 310 miles today it charged to only 309 miles. IS MY BATTERY TOAST?!?” Just set it to show your battery charge in % and forget about it. The navigation will show you estimated battery remaining when you get to your destination and round trip and it s very accurate. Use that to gauge your range.
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Get the long range. We did and I wish I could have had 100kw ISO 75kw. Let all the other costs (color rims) go into battery. You can upgrade the rims later and wrap it as well. The battery is permanent.
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gzrecz
| 21 |
Any tips for a new Tesla owner? Looking to buy within the next month. Pros and Cons? Would love to hear everyone s experiences with a Tesla. I ll be getting the Standard Range 2020 Model 3.
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Biggest tip for a new owner: right away go into Settings and set Energy Display to “Percent” instead of “miles km”. #1 frustration for new owners is “OMG I drove 50 miles and range dropped 65 miles HELLLLLLP” and “charged yesterday to 310 miles today it charged to only 309 miles. IS MY BATTERY TOAST?!?” Just set it to show your battery charge in % and forget about it. The navigation will show you estimated battery remaining when you get to your destination and round trip and it s very accurate. Use that to gauge your range.
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Don t let these other people tell you LR is end-all-be-all. I ve got the LR and it s a fantastic car. I have a long commute \\~50 miles a day and I know I d be fine with the SR+. Other than speed and AWD the only advantage is on long road trips. My girlfriend has the SR+ and it s a fantastic car.
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gzzj5h
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I returned my Model Y back to Tesla - Full Story Details I have been hesitant to post my experience on this subreddit but ultimately decided this information should be shared with the community. I have added some more details from another post to help outline the facts. As the title states I returned my Model Y PUP back to Tesla Monday. This was mainly due to safety concerns and poor customer service. I will try and keep my recap short but there are several items to cover... I took delivery Friday June 5th in Kansas City (Delivery Center that was assigned). On my way home to Oklahoma City about half way I heard some noise from under the car. I pulled over to find the front aero piece hanging down and not attached. I see that I am a mile from a Casino parking lot (in the middle of nowhere Kansas) and decide to limp it there to evaluate further. That mile I could hear terrible noises coming from the front but I didn t want to be on the shoulder of the interstate dealing with this so I slowly made it to that parking lot. I call Tesla Roadside and am given the option to drive it back to Kansas City for service or have it towed. They tell me that the towing option would be covered only if the issue is deemed to be a warranty item. If they find its a warranty item I can work on being reimbursed. At this point I had the car for 48 hours and driven 250 miles. I had not hit anything or gone over any rough terrain. I felt confident that this would be a warranty issue. So in order to avoid any further damage to the vehicle I opted for the tow and thought I would get this worked out at the service center. I had it towed to the Kansas City service center Sunday night. An interesting point to note is that there was miscommunication with the tow truck company and the tow truck driver was told that Tesla paid for the tow in full so I wouldn t have to sign anything or pay. I asked the driver a few times to confirm and figured maybe if they find that it wasn t a warranty issue they add it to my service invoice (my first Tesla and Service Experience). The next day (Monday) after finding accommodations in Kansas City for the night I arrived at the service center in the morning to make sure everything was handled. Explained what happened they apologize profusely and say they will take a look. After letting them work on it for a few hours I hear nothing but since I don t live in Kansas City and have nothing to do I decide to wait at the Tesla center. My advisor comes out and says the car is ready to drive but since they don t have parts they have just secured it to be “driveable.” No estimates on when they can get parts (I expected that) and we would address it as soon as they are available. He then tells me this absolutely is covered under warranty because the bolts were not secured properly and it wasn t done right at the factory. So I am glad to hear this but seriously concerned by the oversight. My advisor then tells me I am responsible for the $1 100 tow truck bill. I am initially confused because the car could not be driven without causing more damage. I wasn t close to any store where I could buy supplies to tape it up and I don t want to be blamed for more damage. They tell me I can contact Tesla corporate myself and plead my case but not to expect much. Disappointed about this outcome I decide to leave the store to try and get some answers from corporate. I spend the next hour trying to get through to a real person which shockingly is more difficult than I thought it would be. I was only able to get a hold of someone by using roadside assistance. I tell the situation to the agent and the agent confirms that “if the repair was covered under warranty then the tow should be included in that claim”. So basically this issue is with the service center and not corporate according to them. So my 3rd trip to the service center starts with them completely agreeing that this is a warranty repair. I then tell him that Tesla customer service on the phone said that if it s a warranty repair then the towing should be covered. He agrees but says management won t budge. I say I will need this to be resolved because this is my 3rd trip here and the tow truck driver is calling my phone for payment. After a long back room discussion they tell me Tesla WILL pay for it they just don t know if the Service Department or Roadside Assistance group will be paying it. I also find out the long delays are because all of this is being done by email... They don t have a number to call someone about it. That seems like an impossible way to get anything done in a timely manner but that what I was told... At this point I am upset that this has been so difficult and wasted my entire day and being an out of town customer looks like it will be a nightmare. I was only able to get this far because I stayed in Kansas City an extra night and took off work. I tell them I am returning the car and want to start that process. I think they were shocked and I was told this was the first time any customer had done this (at their location). I loved the car I love Tesla and still do. I just can t deal with this type of stuff in the future. I can update everyone on the return process as it continues. All they had me do Monday was sign a “Return Declaration” and hand them the keys. Haven t heard a word from anyone else at Tesla since yesterday at the store. I just hoping to get some confirmation that my refund is in process. TL DR - I bought a Tesla Model Y 2 days ago. A manufacturing defect caused me to be stuck 2 1 2 hours from home. Tesla covered the repair under warranty but refused to pay the $1 100 tow truck bill. With some of the delivery issues this warranty repair and the terrible customer service it made me rethink this purchase and I walked away. Still like Tesla but will wait until things are more ironed out. Some Clarifications \\- the aero piece is different than the Model 3 it is a hard plastic cover. Some have commented that its just a fabric. On my car it would drag and flap wildly hitting underneath anytime I went over 30 MPH. \\- My biggest concern was voiding the warranty. I could Uber 20 miles to get some tape or remove it. However I was unable to get any confirmation from Tesla that if I proceed with taping removing it that it wouldn t void my warranty.- I didn t really return it due to the failure it was more from how difficult it was to get a hold of anyone at Tesla and discuss the issue. Living in a state that does not have any Tesla locations made me realize that if I had a problem it might be a difficult thing to resolve. \\- My comment about loving Tesla comes from all the things they are trying to accomplish. The car had very little issues (no more than any other new car I had purchased). I know there are some that are in terrible shape and there is no excuse for that. The car was great and amazing to drive. They really just lost me on the on going support. & #x200B Edit: Some have asked for proof - [https: imgur.com a LvHqk82](https: imgur.com a LvHqk82) \\- This is the return document signed. It is not an early build for anyone tracking the VINs. The door listed a production date of May 2020 post factory shutdown. Edit 2: A picture of the damage and panel - [https: imgur.com a gLoZkms](https: imgur.com a gLoZkms) \\- The wind would catch this panel and it would hit the car and drag on the ground. My understanding is that the Model Y has a slightly different part than the older Model 3 s that were using a fabric composite. I was not close to a store to complete my own repair and no way to get a hold of Tesla and confirm my own temporary repair wouldn t void the warranty. Regardless I was disappointed this part wasn t secured properly at delivery. I did not hit anything you can see the front lip and the rest of the underside has not scrapes or damage. Update 1: Just had a call with a Tesla employee at the Kansas City location. He confirmed that my return is in process and I should expect funds back in 15-20 days. He was very nice and professional but couldn t offer any more information on if my situation will be reviewed by Customer Service leaders at the company.
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I hope this ends up on the desk and social media and email of the VP of Customer Experience (or whatever title they use). This is the perfect test case for the company to use for massive improvements. If they want to excel at everything they need to excel here perhaps the most.
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That sucks. I hope you re able to get a different Tesla in the future maybe from a different service center. Unfortunately their customer service is wildly inconsistent.
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gzzj5h
| 4,799 |
I returned my Model Y back to Tesla - Full Story Details I have been hesitant to post my experience on this subreddit but ultimately decided this information should be shared with the community. I have added some more details from another post to help outline the facts. As the title states I returned my Model Y PUP back to Tesla Monday. This was mainly due to safety concerns and poor customer service. I will try and keep my recap short but there are several items to cover... I took delivery Friday June 5th in Kansas City (Delivery Center that was assigned). On my way home to Oklahoma City about half way I heard some noise from under the car. I pulled over to find the front aero piece hanging down and not attached. I see that I am a mile from a Casino parking lot (in the middle of nowhere Kansas) and decide to limp it there to evaluate further. That mile I could hear terrible noises coming from the front but I didn t want to be on the shoulder of the interstate dealing with this so I slowly made it to that parking lot. I call Tesla Roadside and am given the option to drive it back to Kansas City for service or have it towed. They tell me that the towing option would be covered only if the issue is deemed to be a warranty item. If they find its a warranty item I can work on being reimbursed. At this point I had the car for 48 hours and driven 250 miles. I had not hit anything or gone over any rough terrain. I felt confident that this would be a warranty issue. So in order to avoid any further damage to the vehicle I opted for the tow and thought I would get this worked out at the service center. I had it towed to the Kansas City service center Sunday night. An interesting point to note is that there was miscommunication with the tow truck company and the tow truck driver was told that Tesla paid for the tow in full so I wouldn t have to sign anything or pay. I asked the driver a few times to confirm and figured maybe if they find that it wasn t a warranty issue they add it to my service invoice (my first Tesla and Service Experience). The next day (Monday) after finding accommodations in Kansas City for the night I arrived at the service center in the morning to make sure everything was handled. Explained what happened they apologize profusely and say they will take a look. After letting them work on it for a few hours I hear nothing but since I don t live in Kansas City and have nothing to do I decide to wait at the Tesla center. My advisor comes out and says the car is ready to drive but since they don t have parts they have just secured it to be “driveable.” No estimates on when they can get parts (I expected that) and we would address it as soon as they are available. He then tells me this absolutely is covered under warranty because the bolts were not secured properly and it wasn t done right at the factory. So I am glad to hear this but seriously concerned by the oversight. My advisor then tells me I am responsible for the $1 100 tow truck bill. I am initially confused because the car could not be driven without causing more damage. I wasn t close to any store where I could buy supplies to tape it up and I don t want to be blamed for more damage. They tell me I can contact Tesla corporate myself and plead my case but not to expect much. Disappointed about this outcome I decide to leave the store to try and get some answers from corporate. I spend the next hour trying to get through to a real person which shockingly is more difficult than I thought it would be. I was only able to get a hold of someone by using roadside assistance. I tell the situation to the agent and the agent confirms that “if the repair was covered under warranty then the tow should be included in that claim”. So basically this issue is with the service center and not corporate according to them. So my 3rd trip to the service center starts with them completely agreeing that this is a warranty repair. I then tell him that Tesla customer service on the phone said that if it s a warranty repair then the towing should be covered. He agrees but says management won t budge. I say I will need this to be resolved because this is my 3rd trip here and the tow truck driver is calling my phone for payment. After a long back room discussion they tell me Tesla WILL pay for it they just don t know if the Service Department or Roadside Assistance group will be paying it. I also find out the long delays are because all of this is being done by email... They don t have a number to call someone about it. That seems like an impossible way to get anything done in a timely manner but that what I was told... At this point I am upset that this has been so difficult and wasted my entire day and being an out of town customer looks like it will be a nightmare. I was only able to get this far because I stayed in Kansas City an extra night and took off work. I tell them I am returning the car and want to start that process. I think they were shocked and I was told this was the first time any customer had done this (at their location). I loved the car I love Tesla and still do. I just can t deal with this type of stuff in the future. I can update everyone on the return process as it continues. All they had me do Monday was sign a “Return Declaration” and hand them the keys. Haven t heard a word from anyone else at Tesla since yesterday at the store. I just hoping to get some confirmation that my refund is in process. TL DR - I bought a Tesla Model Y 2 days ago. A manufacturing defect caused me to be stuck 2 1 2 hours from home. Tesla covered the repair under warranty but refused to pay the $1 100 tow truck bill. With some of the delivery issues this warranty repair and the terrible customer service it made me rethink this purchase and I walked away. Still like Tesla but will wait until things are more ironed out. Some Clarifications \\- the aero piece is different than the Model 3 it is a hard plastic cover. Some have commented that its just a fabric. On my car it would drag and flap wildly hitting underneath anytime I went over 30 MPH. \\- My biggest concern was voiding the warranty. I could Uber 20 miles to get some tape or remove it. However I was unable to get any confirmation from Tesla that if I proceed with taping removing it that it wouldn t void my warranty.- I didn t really return it due to the failure it was more from how difficult it was to get a hold of anyone at Tesla and discuss the issue. Living in a state that does not have any Tesla locations made me realize that if I had a problem it might be a difficult thing to resolve. \\- My comment about loving Tesla comes from all the things they are trying to accomplish. The car had very little issues (no more than any other new car I had purchased). I know there are some that are in terrible shape and there is no excuse for that. The car was great and amazing to drive. They really just lost me on the on going support. & #x200B Edit: Some have asked for proof - [https: imgur.com a LvHqk82](https: imgur.com a LvHqk82) \\- This is the return document signed. It is not an early build for anyone tracking the VINs. The door listed a production date of May 2020 post factory shutdown. Edit 2: A picture of the damage and panel - [https: imgur.com a gLoZkms](https: imgur.com a gLoZkms) \\- The wind would catch this panel and it would hit the car and drag on the ground. My understanding is that the Model Y has a slightly different part than the older Model 3 s that were using a fabric composite. I was not close to a store to complete my own repair and no way to get a hold of Tesla and confirm my own temporary repair wouldn t void the warranty. Regardless I was disappointed this part wasn t secured properly at delivery. I did not hit anything you can see the front lip and the rest of the underside has not scrapes or damage. Update 1: Just had a call with a Tesla employee at the Kansas City location. He confirmed that my return is in process and I should expect funds back in 15-20 days. He was very nice and professional but couldn t offer any more information on if my situation will be reviewed by Customer Service leaders at the company.
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I hope this ends up on the desk and social media and email of the VP of Customer Experience (or whatever title they use). This is the perfect test case for the company to use for massive improvements. If they want to excel at everything they need to excel here perhaps the most.
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It s sad that there such a wide range of service quality and that it seems to depend so much on each Service Center... My only issue has been with purchasing itself where it was so difficult to get answers and a smooth transaction: I wasn t buying a fridge I was buying a 90k$CA car! Probably one if not THE most expensive purchase that I ll ever do in my live besides a house... The good thing about Tesla is that their cars are so great that you ll forget these issues so quickly once you get back in the car and maintenance is low that you might not hear about their service for the next years! ) It s unfortunate that you didn t keep the car but those situations are so stressful that it s understandable.
| 2,188 | 28 | 7,065 |
gzzj5h
| 4,799 |
I returned my Model Y back to Tesla - Full Story Details I have been hesitant to post my experience on this subreddit but ultimately decided this information should be shared with the community. I have added some more details from another post to help outline the facts. As the title states I returned my Model Y PUP back to Tesla Monday. This was mainly due to safety concerns and poor customer service. I will try and keep my recap short but there are several items to cover... I took delivery Friday June 5th in Kansas City (Delivery Center that was assigned). On my way home to Oklahoma City about half way I heard some noise from under the car. I pulled over to find the front aero piece hanging down and not attached. I see that I am a mile from a Casino parking lot (in the middle of nowhere Kansas) and decide to limp it there to evaluate further. That mile I could hear terrible noises coming from the front but I didn t want to be on the shoulder of the interstate dealing with this so I slowly made it to that parking lot. I call Tesla Roadside and am given the option to drive it back to Kansas City for service or have it towed. They tell me that the towing option would be covered only if the issue is deemed to be a warranty item. If they find its a warranty item I can work on being reimbursed. At this point I had the car for 48 hours and driven 250 miles. I had not hit anything or gone over any rough terrain. I felt confident that this would be a warranty issue. So in order to avoid any further damage to the vehicle I opted for the tow and thought I would get this worked out at the service center. I had it towed to the Kansas City service center Sunday night. An interesting point to note is that there was miscommunication with the tow truck company and the tow truck driver was told that Tesla paid for the tow in full so I wouldn t have to sign anything or pay. I asked the driver a few times to confirm and figured maybe if they find that it wasn t a warranty issue they add it to my service invoice (my first Tesla and Service Experience). The next day (Monday) after finding accommodations in Kansas City for the night I arrived at the service center in the morning to make sure everything was handled. Explained what happened they apologize profusely and say they will take a look. After letting them work on it for a few hours I hear nothing but since I don t live in Kansas City and have nothing to do I decide to wait at the Tesla center. My advisor comes out and says the car is ready to drive but since they don t have parts they have just secured it to be “driveable.” No estimates on when they can get parts (I expected that) and we would address it as soon as they are available. He then tells me this absolutely is covered under warranty because the bolts were not secured properly and it wasn t done right at the factory. So I am glad to hear this but seriously concerned by the oversight. My advisor then tells me I am responsible for the $1 100 tow truck bill. I am initially confused because the car could not be driven without causing more damage. I wasn t close to any store where I could buy supplies to tape it up and I don t want to be blamed for more damage. They tell me I can contact Tesla corporate myself and plead my case but not to expect much. Disappointed about this outcome I decide to leave the store to try and get some answers from corporate. I spend the next hour trying to get through to a real person which shockingly is more difficult than I thought it would be. I was only able to get a hold of someone by using roadside assistance. I tell the situation to the agent and the agent confirms that “if the repair was covered under warranty then the tow should be included in that claim”. So basically this issue is with the service center and not corporate according to them. So my 3rd trip to the service center starts with them completely agreeing that this is a warranty repair. I then tell him that Tesla customer service on the phone said that if it s a warranty repair then the towing should be covered. He agrees but says management won t budge. I say I will need this to be resolved because this is my 3rd trip here and the tow truck driver is calling my phone for payment. After a long back room discussion they tell me Tesla WILL pay for it they just don t know if the Service Department or Roadside Assistance group will be paying it. I also find out the long delays are because all of this is being done by email... They don t have a number to call someone about it. That seems like an impossible way to get anything done in a timely manner but that what I was told... At this point I am upset that this has been so difficult and wasted my entire day and being an out of town customer looks like it will be a nightmare. I was only able to get this far because I stayed in Kansas City an extra night and took off work. I tell them I am returning the car and want to start that process. I think they were shocked and I was told this was the first time any customer had done this (at their location). I loved the car I love Tesla and still do. I just can t deal with this type of stuff in the future. I can update everyone on the return process as it continues. All they had me do Monday was sign a “Return Declaration” and hand them the keys. Haven t heard a word from anyone else at Tesla since yesterday at the store. I just hoping to get some confirmation that my refund is in process. TL DR - I bought a Tesla Model Y 2 days ago. A manufacturing defect caused me to be stuck 2 1 2 hours from home. Tesla covered the repair under warranty but refused to pay the $1 100 tow truck bill. With some of the delivery issues this warranty repair and the terrible customer service it made me rethink this purchase and I walked away. Still like Tesla but will wait until things are more ironed out. Some Clarifications \\- the aero piece is different than the Model 3 it is a hard plastic cover. Some have commented that its just a fabric. On my car it would drag and flap wildly hitting underneath anytime I went over 30 MPH. \\- My biggest concern was voiding the warranty. I could Uber 20 miles to get some tape or remove it. However I was unable to get any confirmation from Tesla that if I proceed with taping removing it that it wouldn t void my warranty.- I didn t really return it due to the failure it was more from how difficult it was to get a hold of anyone at Tesla and discuss the issue. Living in a state that does not have any Tesla locations made me realize that if I had a problem it might be a difficult thing to resolve. \\- My comment about loving Tesla comes from all the things they are trying to accomplish. The car had very little issues (no more than any other new car I had purchased). I know there are some that are in terrible shape and there is no excuse for that. The car was great and amazing to drive. They really just lost me on the on going support. & #x200B Edit: Some have asked for proof - [https: imgur.com a LvHqk82](https: imgur.com a LvHqk82) \\- This is the return document signed. It is not an early build for anyone tracking the VINs. The door listed a production date of May 2020 post factory shutdown. Edit 2: A picture of the damage and panel - [https: imgur.com a gLoZkms](https: imgur.com a gLoZkms) \\- The wind would catch this panel and it would hit the car and drag on the ground. My understanding is that the Model Y has a slightly different part than the older Model 3 s that were using a fabric composite. I was not close to a store to complete my own repair and no way to get a hold of Tesla and confirm my own temporary repair wouldn t void the warranty. Regardless I was disappointed this part wasn t secured properly at delivery. I did not hit anything you can see the front lip and the rest of the underside has not scrapes or damage. Update 1: Just had a call with a Tesla employee at the Kansas City location. He confirmed that my return is in process and I should expect funds back in 15-20 days. He was very nice and professional but couldn t offer any more information on if my situation will be reviewed by Customer Service leaders at the company.
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I hope this ends up on the desk and social media and email of the VP of Customer Experience (or whatever title they use). This is the perfect test case for the company to use for massive improvements. If they want to excel at everything they need to excel here perhaps the most.
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I don t fault you at all. Great post and share. Have loved my 3 but I ve had nothing but great service. Incredibly annoying service and your return sucks for you but hopefully flags attention at corporate of this continued lack of customer focused service. I hope someday you join the family but don t fault you if you don t.
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h04879
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PSA: Tesla Service Centers reduced cost to rotate tires. I was at my local SC yesterday and overheard an employee saying they reduced the cost of rotating tires from approx $80 to $35. Seems very reasonable to me but I already own the tools to perform my own rotations. Also fwiw I ve never had to pay for rotations and have had about 4 done at service centers what I do is just request them rotated when any warranty work is scheduled and they ve always comped the service. Again I only overheard this so if someone can confirm I m sure others will appreciate this knowledge.
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Discount Tire is free.
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Got an appointment on Thursday awesome if true cause I m due for a tire rotation.
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h04879
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PSA: Tesla Service Centers reduced cost to rotate tires. I was at my local SC yesterday and overheard an employee saying they reduced the cost of rotating tires from approx $80 to $35. Seems very reasonable to me but I already own the tools to perform my own rotations. Also fwiw I ve never had to pay for rotations and have had about 4 done at service centers what I do is just request them rotated when any warranty work is scheduled and they ve always comped the service. Again I only overheard this so if someone can confirm I m sure others will appreciate this knowledge.
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Discount Tire is free.
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Scheduled for Friday - we ll see if true and if it is thank you for the heads up! Edit: Scheduled Friday and estimate in APP shows as $31 so it appears OP is correct (will confirm when service is completed)
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h09spr
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The Cybertruck has corrupted my frugal dad My dad is a very very frugal person. He drove the same SUV for 18 years and 250k miles never saw a reason to upgrade. He has plenty of money to spend on a luxury foreign car but would never spend his money that way. Regardless when his SUV died last year he got a new one same car same plan. Drive it until it dies. However when he saw the Cybertruck reveal he put down the $1000 for the truck that night. Didn t even think about it. He told us it was just for fun and he probably wouldn t follow through with it. This week I asked him again if he was going to get it and he is fully onboard. Plans on buying a maxed out tri motor and sell the other car he bought. He basically took a 30k depreciation hit on the brand new car he bought for the Cybertruck. Can t tell if this is a mid life crisis or Elon charisma working its magic but my dad has been possessed by the Cybertruck.
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$1000 will reserve you 10 x Cyber-trucks or an infinite amount of Nikola One s
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I put my order in while still in bed after sleeping on it for a night after the reveal... Actually put orders in for both the dual and the tri motor in case I m too impatient for the tri motor so I m right there with your Dad in excitement... Also the reservation is $100 not $1 000 FYI
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h09spr
| 331 |
The Cybertruck has corrupted my frugal dad My dad is a very very frugal person. He drove the same SUV for 18 years and 250k miles never saw a reason to upgrade. He has plenty of money to spend on a luxury foreign car but would never spend his money that way. Regardless when his SUV died last year he got a new one same car same plan. Drive it until it dies. However when he saw the Cybertruck reveal he put down the $1000 for the truck that night. Didn t even think about it. He told us it was just for fun and he probably wouldn t follow through with it. This week I asked him again if he was going to get it and he is fully onboard. Plans on buying a maxed out tri motor and sell the other car he bought. He basically took a 30k depreciation hit on the brand new car he bought for the Cybertruck. Can t tell if this is a mid life crisis or Elon charisma working its magic but my dad has been possessed by the Cybertruck.
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This was my dad- when I showed up with my model 3 he went and bought the highest level X the next day. Hubs thought he was insane given they have no need for such a big car- however the last truck he bought was in 1996. So I figure he deserved it. Man he loved that car. (He died a yr later so I m glad he had time showing it off)
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I put my order in while still in bed after sleeping on it for a night after the reveal... Actually put orders in for both the dual and the tri motor in case I m too impatient for the tri motor so I m right there with your Dad in excitement... Also the reservation is $100 not $1 000 FYI
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h0aphb
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In order to make the FSD option worth it to you to pull the trigger what do you need to see happen? I was thinking about this last night. I use Autopilot and the NoA during my commute and I use summon pretty often. Most drives its all on for over 90% of my drive. So I personally already think it s worth it but I know many don t. So it made me wonder for those who are on the fence what features would make you go for it? [View Poll](https: www.reddit.com poll h0aphb)
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As long as FSD needs supervision the value is very limited. Autopilot can do most of the driving. The true value of buying FSD is the hope that it might upgrade to real FSD in the future.
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I didn t buy EAP when it was available for 5k but planed to purchase it with my 7500 tax credit the following year. Really had no intention of buying FSD at all since I still think it s at least a decade away to make it worth it. By then I would have a new car. But when Tesla offered AP and FSD for $5k I jumped on it.
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h0aphb
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In order to make the FSD option worth it to you to pull the trigger what do you need to see happen? I was thinking about this last night. I use Autopilot and the NoA during my commute and I use summon pretty often. Most drives its all on for over 90% of my drive. So I personally already think it s worth it but I know many don t. So it made me wonder for those who are on the fence what features would make you go for it? [View Poll](https: www.reddit.com poll h0aphb)
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As long as FSD needs supervision the value is very limited. Autopilot can do most of the driving. The true value of buying FSD is the hope that it might upgrade to real FSD in the future.
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play on my phone or watch videos on the hwy. If this happens and FSD is affordable ($3-5k) i m in. idk what Tesla would need to do for me to pay > $5k for a convenience software.
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h10jc9
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I m buying a Model 3. Tesla wants me to sign over the title for my trade 2 weeks before delivery. Is this ok? We placed an order for a new M3P a few days ago. We originally had picked one out of Atlanta that had 500 miles on it and was discounted $3k. Sales guy called us and said he had the same spec car local. It was full price since it was a 0 mile car but it would save us the $2k transport fee so we agree. Figure we would get the car much quicker since it was local. I was a little upset when we go to arrange pickup and they schedule it two weeks out. Ask why and they say the car hasn t arrived yet. WTF! felt like they pulled a fast one on us. He made it sound like we were buying a local inventory car when in reality the car was still in California.. I had even asked why we hadn t seen a local car show up in any of the inventory searches we had done. Sales guy said he can see things that don t show up in inventory. That has created the current dilemma. Teala sent us paperwork to sign over our trade in. They want the paperwork back in 48 hours and that includes signing over the title. What happens if the deal falls thru? I ve already signed over the title. How do you undo all this? Would I have to get the title reissued or does Tesla just hand me a check for the trade in and we go our separate ways?
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The quarter ends at the end of this month. What you re seeing is pressure to get everything done.
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Seems strange I mean what if you total your car in the next week? Are they still on the hook for the trade in as well?
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h10jc9
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I m buying a Model 3. Tesla wants me to sign over the title for my trade 2 weeks before delivery. Is this ok? We placed an order for a new M3P a few days ago. We originally had picked one out of Atlanta that had 500 miles on it and was discounted $3k. Sales guy called us and said he had the same spec car local. It was full price since it was a 0 mile car but it would save us the $2k transport fee so we agree. Figure we would get the car much quicker since it was local. I was a little upset when we go to arrange pickup and they schedule it two weeks out. Ask why and they say the car hasn t arrived yet. WTF! felt like they pulled a fast one on us. He made it sound like we were buying a local inventory car when in reality the car was still in California.. I had even asked why we hadn t seen a local car show up in any of the inventory searches we had done. Sales guy said he can see things that don t show up in inventory. That has created the current dilemma. Teala sent us paperwork to sign over our trade in. They want the paperwork back in 48 hours and that includes signing over the title. What happens if the deal falls thru? I ve already signed over the title. How do you undo all this? Would I have to get the title reissued or does Tesla just hand me a check for the trade in and we go our separate ways?
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What if the car falls off the delivery truck and you don t want it? You already signed and sent the title. This is weird.
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Normally I d say trade in happens at delivery. If it does earlier then they should pay you earlier as well. But don t expect your car back if your model 3 is delayed.
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h10jc9
| 29 |
I m buying a Model 3. Tesla wants me to sign over the title for my trade 2 weeks before delivery. Is this ok? We placed an order for a new M3P a few days ago. We originally had picked one out of Atlanta that had 500 miles on it and was discounted $3k. Sales guy called us and said he had the same spec car local. It was full price since it was a 0 mile car but it would save us the $2k transport fee so we agree. Figure we would get the car much quicker since it was local. I was a little upset when we go to arrange pickup and they schedule it two weeks out. Ask why and they say the car hasn t arrived yet. WTF! felt like they pulled a fast one on us. He made it sound like we were buying a local inventory car when in reality the car was still in California.. I had even asked why we hadn t seen a local car show up in any of the inventory searches we had done. Sales guy said he can see things that don t show up in inventory. That has created the current dilemma. Teala sent us paperwork to sign over our trade in. They want the paperwork back in 48 hours and that includes signing over the title. What happens if the deal falls thru? I ve already signed over the title. How do you undo all this? Would I have to get the title reissued or does Tesla just hand me a check for the trade in and we go our separate ways?
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What if the car falls off the delivery truck and you don t want it? You already signed and sent the title. This is weird.
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That seems weird. When I believe I did mine and signed over at the store when I picked up my 3. Of course that was 2 years ago...
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h165mr
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Warning about Transportation fees The website is truly an estimate. It told me $500 estimate from SoCal to Bay Area. Was hit by a $2000 fee today. Clearly the estimate was off. Called my rep and they said anything more than 250 miles is $2000 no matter what the website says. Pickup is set for tomorrow. Now debating canceling the order all together. I know it s only $1500 but I m genuinely upset. Thanks for letting me vent...
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At that point I d just fly down and drive it back.
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Used or new? New just cancel and reorder. Used depends on how good of a deal it was.
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h165mr
| 95 |
Warning about Transportation fees The website is truly an estimate. It told me $500 estimate from SoCal to Bay Area. Was hit by a $2000 fee today. Clearly the estimate was off. Called my rep and they said anything more than 250 miles is $2000 no matter what the website says. Pickup is set for tomorrow. Now debating canceling the order all together. I know it s only $1500 but I m genuinely upset. Thanks for letting me vent...
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At that point I d just fly down and drive it back.
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What sucks is that you could probably have it shipped to you for cheaper but tesla won t allow third party pickups.
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h165mr
| 95 |
Warning about Transportation fees The website is truly an estimate. It told me $500 estimate from SoCal to Bay Area. Was hit by a $2000 fee today. Clearly the estimate was off. Called my rep and they said anything more than 250 miles is $2000 no matter what the website says. Pickup is set for tomorrow. Now debating canceling the order all together. I know it s only $1500 but I m genuinely upset. Thanks for letting me vent...
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At that point I d just fly down and drive it back.
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Tesla can do better than this.
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h7bz39
| 187 |
After so many ears of following development of Teslas I m a proud owner of a Model S! May be old but I m loving it. Any recommendations? https: i.imgur.com tOtArqr.jpg For years I ve wanted one but was always priced out and could not afford the monthly loan payment to own one. Well the wife and I decided to try to fit something into our budget for a new car and after coming across older used models I was floored at how cheap they ve gotten. So I m now a proud owner of a 2013 Model S 85! Now since I m almost completely new to Tesla ownership are there any recommendations on things I should do check accessories I should buy for it? (I m already in the ownership transfer process for supercharger access but that s about all I ve done.) It s unfortunately old enough that it is out of any sort of warranty but it does only have 36 000 miles and is overall in fantastic shape so I m hoping not to run into any of the long-term use issues any time soon. Any help would be appreciated! All still setting in that after all this time I finally have one. May not have all the self-driving bells and whistles but it s still been a pleasure to drive and I m VERY thankful the chargers at my apartment complex AND near my work are free. And yes I meant so many *****y***ears
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Howdy! 36 000 miles sounds like an awesome find! Welcome to the family you ll be really happy. Having the charger at work is a huge plus and you ll have a ton of fun. I don t know a lot about the Model S but it may be worth seeing if you re eligible to purchase the infotainment upgrade at some point in the future: https: www.tesla.com support infotainment
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Congrats fellow older Tesla owner! My only recommendation is getting a leather kit and fixing any wrinkles in the seats . That s my current battle right now.
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h7bz39
| 187 |
After so many ears of following development of Teslas I m a proud owner of a Model S! May be old but I m loving it. Any recommendations? https: i.imgur.com tOtArqr.jpg For years I ve wanted one but was always priced out and could not afford the monthly loan payment to own one. Well the wife and I decided to try to fit something into our budget for a new car and after coming across older used models I was floored at how cheap they ve gotten. So I m now a proud owner of a 2013 Model S 85! Now since I m almost completely new to Tesla ownership are there any recommendations on things I should do check accessories I should buy for it? (I m already in the ownership transfer process for supercharger access but that s about all I ve done.) It s unfortunately old enough that it is out of any sort of warranty but it does only have 36 000 miles and is overall in fantastic shape so I m hoping not to run into any of the long-term use issues any time soon. Any help would be appreciated! All still setting in that after all this time I finally have one. May not have all the self-driving bells and whistles but it s still been a pleasure to drive and I m VERY thankful the chargers at my apartment complex AND near my work are free. And yes I meant so many *****y***ears
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Howdy! 36 000 miles sounds like an awesome find! Welcome to the family you ll be really happy. Having the charger at work is a huge plus and you ll have a ton of fun. I don t know a lot about the Model S but it may be worth seeing if you re eligible to purchase the infotainment upgrade at some point in the future: https: www.tesla.com support infotainment
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With so many ears you must have heard lots of good things about Tesla
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h7ljri
| 278 |
I wish the charging cable would wake the car Every morning when I come to my car I wish I could press the button on the charging cable to wake the car and remove the cable. As it stands I have to open the front door before I can remove the charging cable.
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At work we use line-of-sight walkie-talkie style radios and I ve noticed that sometimes keying the transmit button on them will cause my charge door to open. This (and the fact that chargers aren t programed to specific vehicles) tells me that the door opening wireless signal is a non-encrypted generic radio burst of some kind. If this woke the car then Teslas would wake up constantly in areas where this kind of radio traffic is common.
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I agree. My workaround since I pull into my garage is to pop the trunk quickly to wake it.
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h7ljri
| 278 |
I wish the charging cable would wake the car Every morning when I come to my car I wish I could press the button on the charging cable to wake the car and remove the cable. As it stands I have to open the front door before I can remove the charging cable.
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At work we use line-of-sight walkie-talkie style radios and I ve noticed that sometimes keying the transmit button on them will cause my charge door to open. This (and the fact that chargers aren t programed to specific vehicles) tells me that the door opening wireless signal is a non-encrypted generic radio burst of some kind. If this woke the car then Teslas would wake up constantly in areas where this kind of radio traffic is common.
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Why can t walking towards the car wake it. The car knows I m close by since it allows me to open the door immediately.
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h7ljri
| 278 |
I wish the charging cable would wake the car Every morning when I come to my car I wish I could press the button on the charging cable to wake the car and remove the cable. As it stands I have to open the front door before I can remove the charging cable.
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At work we use line-of-sight walkie-talkie style radios and I ve noticed that sometimes keying the transmit button on them will cause my charge door to open. This (and the fact that chargers aren t programed to specific vehicles) tells me that the door opening wireless signal is a non-encrypted generic radio burst of some kind. If this woke the car then Teslas would wake up constantly in areas where this kind of radio traffic is common.
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The car doesn t wake up when you approach it with your keyfob or phone? Try pressing and holding the charging cable button until the charge port lights up white. That s not in the manual but it seems to work.
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h7po0p
| 152 |
How time has changed 5 years ago my dad was so sceptic about EV and no car was better than his Audi A5. Now I own a Tesla Model 3 AWD (I m 21) whenever he has the opportunity he asks me if he can use my Tesla 😂 He said that his next car will be electric. (I live in Italy and here electric cars are quite rare)
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I m a native Vietnamese that lives in California. My dad s reaction when he saw my car at first: Son why are you buying American car? American car sucks 😆 Get a Lexus or something. I was like dad not this one. Guess what he bought his own Model 3 Performance 😂 Edit: I live in California
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The A5 of five years ago was probably a lot less nerfed than the current ones. They re all mild-hybrid now to make them look less nerfed .
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h7po0p
| 152 |
How time has changed 5 years ago my dad was so sceptic about EV and no car was better than his Audi A5. Now I own a Tesla Model 3 AWD (I m 21) whenever he has the opportunity he asks me if he can use my Tesla 😂 He said that his next car will be electric. (I live in Italy and here electric cars are quite rare)
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I m a native Vietnamese that lives in California. My dad s reaction when he saw my car at first: Son why are you buying American car? American car sucks 😆 Get a Lexus or something. I was like dad not this one. Guess what he bought his own Model 3 Performance 😂 Edit: I live in California
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They should keep getting adopted at higher rate especially if the new million mile battery has no design flaws and gives similar performance to existing battery.
| 128 | 17 | 7,085 |
h7po0p
| 152 |
How time has changed 5 years ago my dad was so sceptic about EV and no car was better than his Audi A5. Now I own a Tesla Model 3 AWD (I m 21) whenever he has the opportunity he asks me if he can use my Tesla 😂 He said that his next car will be electric. (I live in Italy and here electric cars are quite rare)
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How the heck does a 21 year-old afford a model 3? What do you do?
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The A5 of five years ago was probably a lot less nerfed than the current ones. They re all mild-hybrid now to make them look less nerfed .
| 50 | 9 | 7,086 |
h7ymj8
| 123 |
My first experience with a Tesla (or EV in general). Today I was bored and looking at cars online as usual because I m a basic car guy who likes to pretend I ll be happy with one car one day. I ve flirted with the idea of EV cars before but the usual anxieties have held me back. Mostly my main concern being I want to be able to charge at home so I can at least not have to go out of my way to do so. I went on Tesla s website and poked around and found you can schedule test drives. So I thought what the heck not much else going on so why not? I made an appointment and surprisingly enough there was on available same day. I booked it and went. On arrival I just waddled in was greeted by a Tesla rep and they got me started which took about 10 minutes to get my ID temp registration and asked me how long I wanted it. I asked him how long I could have it and he said we close in 2 and a half hours so bring it back by then. Good enough I decided to drive over to my parents show them too and come back. Here s the things I liked: 1. The drive is very smooth and refine. Coming from a Lexus I was curious to see how the drive train would feel. I was a little nervous driving it but with in a few miles I was very comfortable driving and navigating this thing. The car was very nimble and handled cornering really well. It felt super planted like I could drive up a hotwheels corkscrew track and it would stick like silly putty on carpet. 2. When I first saw the pictures I hated the fact their was no speedometer right in front of the driver like every car. I figured I would miss having that and would find it having to look to the screen in the middle very inconvenient. Turns out I didn t even think about it once. I was easily able to glance over at the speed and more without feeling I was being unsafe. 3. Autopilot is sick. While driving I did get nervous how it would navigate the city I live in is constantly under construction and the lanes aren t very clear. But overall it handled it very well. Trusting the car was very unnerving but I preferred being in control while the Tesla did the brake and acceleration. 4. The screen is really nice. Everything is easier to read and you aren t confined to this 7 inch screen. Considering all of your car settings and interactions are through their the screen size makes sense. 5. Visibility is nutty out the front of the car. Without a gauge cluster and the swooping down hood really made it feel like I was in some really low car or some go cart. The acceleration was just wild after getting back into my car it felt like I was driving a land whale. 6. Interior space was nice and spacious. Seats were comfortable and the flat floor was nice. I m slightly taller then avg and sitting in the back was fine although anyone taller then me will have some trouble in the back seat. Here s what I didn t like: 1. I wish the sunroof would open. I m a big fan of sunroofs and driving with the windows down in the summer. That was a bit of a let down. 2. I wish the seats were cooled. Even with the white color the car seemed to struggle a bit to keep the car warm with the big pano roofs. Also the rear ac vents didn t seem to put out a lot of air. 3. While navigating I had a hard time using the map screen. It took a while to figure out how to zoom and rotate the map and also how to snap back to the guidance arrow for navigation. 4. I wish you could just search for the setting or feature you wanted in the settings. It took a minute to figure out how to connect my phone for music. Turns out I had to go to the music or make a call area to find those settings. I couldn t find them under the car setting. I think something similar to Android where you can search for a setting would be nice. Aside from those things I had a very positive experience. I m going to find out if the HOA where I live will install charging stations that would definitely solidify my decision on getting one. If anyone is one the fence about this car go drive it.
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+1 for missing cooled seats.
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Very weird your #3 as it s just like an iPad or tablet ever.
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h7ymj8
| 123 |
My first experience with a Tesla (or EV in general). Today I was bored and looking at cars online as usual because I m a basic car guy who likes to pretend I ll be happy with one car one day. I ve flirted with the idea of EV cars before but the usual anxieties have held me back. Mostly my main concern being I want to be able to charge at home so I can at least not have to go out of my way to do so. I went on Tesla s website and poked around and found you can schedule test drives. So I thought what the heck not much else going on so why not? I made an appointment and surprisingly enough there was on available same day. I booked it and went. On arrival I just waddled in was greeted by a Tesla rep and they got me started which took about 10 minutes to get my ID temp registration and asked me how long I wanted it. I asked him how long I could have it and he said we close in 2 and a half hours so bring it back by then. Good enough I decided to drive over to my parents show them too and come back. Here s the things I liked: 1. The drive is very smooth and refine. Coming from a Lexus I was curious to see how the drive train would feel. I was a little nervous driving it but with in a few miles I was very comfortable driving and navigating this thing. The car was very nimble and handled cornering really well. It felt super planted like I could drive up a hotwheels corkscrew track and it would stick like silly putty on carpet. 2. When I first saw the pictures I hated the fact their was no speedometer right in front of the driver like every car. I figured I would miss having that and would find it having to look to the screen in the middle very inconvenient. Turns out I didn t even think about it once. I was easily able to glance over at the speed and more without feeling I was being unsafe. 3. Autopilot is sick. While driving I did get nervous how it would navigate the city I live in is constantly under construction and the lanes aren t very clear. But overall it handled it very well. Trusting the car was very unnerving but I preferred being in control while the Tesla did the brake and acceleration. 4. The screen is really nice. Everything is easier to read and you aren t confined to this 7 inch screen. Considering all of your car settings and interactions are through their the screen size makes sense. 5. Visibility is nutty out the front of the car. Without a gauge cluster and the swooping down hood really made it feel like I was in some really low car or some go cart. The acceleration was just wild after getting back into my car it felt like I was driving a land whale. 6. Interior space was nice and spacious. Seats were comfortable and the flat floor was nice. I m slightly taller then avg and sitting in the back was fine although anyone taller then me will have some trouble in the back seat. Here s what I didn t like: 1. I wish the sunroof would open. I m a big fan of sunroofs and driving with the windows down in the summer. That was a bit of a let down. 2. I wish the seats were cooled. Even with the white color the car seemed to struggle a bit to keep the car warm with the big pano roofs. Also the rear ac vents didn t seem to put out a lot of air. 3. While navigating I had a hard time using the map screen. It took a while to figure out how to zoom and rotate the map and also how to snap back to the guidance arrow for navigation. 4. I wish you could just search for the setting or feature you wanted in the settings. It took a minute to figure out how to connect my phone for music. Turns out I had to go to the music or make a call area to find those settings. I couldn t find them under the car setting. I think something similar to Android where you can search for a setting would be nice. Aside from those things I had a very positive experience. I m going to find out if the HOA where I live will install charging stations that would definitely solidify my decision on getting one. If anyone is one the fence about this car go drive it.
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+1 for missing cooled seats.
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Iirc you can charge with a “normal” outlet but it just takes some time
| 81 | 9 | 7,088 |
h7ymj8
| 123 |
My first experience with a Tesla (or EV in general). Today I was bored and looking at cars online as usual because I m a basic car guy who likes to pretend I ll be happy with one car one day. I ve flirted with the idea of EV cars before but the usual anxieties have held me back. Mostly my main concern being I want to be able to charge at home so I can at least not have to go out of my way to do so. I went on Tesla s website and poked around and found you can schedule test drives. So I thought what the heck not much else going on so why not? I made an appointment and surprisingly enough there was on available same day. I booked it and went. On arrival I just waddled in was greeted by a Tesla rep and they got me started which took about 10 minutes to get my ID temp registration and asked me how long I wanted it. I asked him how long I could have it and he said we close in 2 and a half hours so bring it back by then. Good enough I decided to drive over to my parents show them too and come back. Here s the things I liked: 1. The drive is very smooth and refine. Coming from a Lexus I was curious to see how the drive train would feel. I was a little nervous driving it but with in a few miles I was very comfortable driving and navigating this thing. The car was very nimble and handled cornering really well. It felt super planted like I could drive up a hotwheels corkscrew track and it would stick like silly putty on carpet. 2. When I first saw the pictures I hated the fact their was no speedometer right in front of the driver like every car. I figured I would miss having that and would find it having to look to the screen in the middle very inconvenient. Turns out I didn t even think about it once. I was easily able to glance over at the speed and more without feeling I was being unsafe. 3. Autopilot is sick. While driving I did get nervous how it would navigate the city I live in is constantly under construction and the lanes aren t very clear. But overall it handled it very well. Trusting the car was very unnerving but I preferred being in control while the Tesla did the brake and acceleration. 4. The screen is really nice. Everything is easier to read and you aren t confined to this 7 inch screen. Considering all of your car settings and interactions are through their the screen size makes sense. 5. Visibility is nutty out the front of the car. Without a gauge cluster and the swooping down hood really made it feel like I was in some really low car or some go cart. The acceleration was just wild after getting back into my car it felt like I was driving a land whale. 6. Interior space was nice and spacious. Seats were comfortable and the flat floor was nice. I m slightly taller then avg and sitting in the back was fine although anyone taller then me will have some trouble in the back seat. Here s what I didn t like: 1. I wish the sunroof would open. I m a big fan of sunroofs and driving with the windows down in the summer. That was a bit of a let down. 2. I wish the seats were cooled. Even with the white color the car seemed to struggle a bit to keep the car warm with the big pano roofs. Also the rear ac vents didn t seem to put out a lot of air. 3. While navigating I had a hard time using the map screen. It took a while to figure out how to zoom and rotate the map and also how to snap back to the guidance arrow for navigation. 4. I wish you could just search for the setting or feature you wanted in the settings. It took a minute to figure out how to connect my phone for music. Turns out I had to go to the music or make a call area to find those settings. I couldn t find them under the car setting. I think something similar to Android where you can search for a setting would be nice. Aside from those things I had a very positive experience. I m going to find out if the HOA where I live will install charging stations that would definitely solidify my decision on getting one. If anyone is one the fence about this car go drive it.
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+1 for missing cooled seats.
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Thanks for sharing it is great to have a perspective of unbiased drivers. The one thing you will notice after a while is that you will not kiss (oh now - I meant MISS) going to gas stations never ever again.
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h81v1f
| 1,623 |
USB-C comes with the latest Model 3 build. Took delivery today! Sorry if this was already confirmed. It appears to be 1 USB-A and 1 USB-C in the front console and 2 USB-C in the rear. Bonus: Wireless phone charger is included as well! It s a Performance model. I ll provide pics and data points if anyone is interested. Glad to be in the Tesla fam!
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I picked up my M3P yesterday and it came with USB-C and the wireless charger.
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will be taking my delivery in a couple weeks im wondering how the wireless charging pad looks. is it just the same as the one sold on tesla.com?
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h81v1f
| 1,623 |
USB-C comes with the latest Model 3 build. Took delivery today! Sorry if this was already confirmed. It appears to be 1 USB-A and 1 USB-C in the front console and 2 USB-C in the rear. Bonus: Wireless phone charger is included as well! It s a Performance model. I ll provide pics and data points if anyone is interested. Glad to be in the Tesla fam!
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I picked up my M3P yesterday and it came with USB-C and the wireless charger.
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What about octovalve?
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h8b4oz
| 179 |
Stoplight & Stop Signs: Has anyone had their car miss a stop? How do we think the .9999999s are going for reliability? I m personally loving the automatic stop sign and stoplight feature. I love training the network. From my experience it hasn t missed a single stop out of probably close to 1 000 intersections that I ve encountered so far. What are your experiences? Do you go out of your way to help map the roads less traveled to collect data for Tesla? Think of it this way if the car runs one red light or stop sign out of 1 million then there would be multiple incidents per day across the fleet. It has to be closer to 1 in several billion to not be in the headlines every week that a Tesla T-Boned someone at an intersection.
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Seeing as the car seems to make up stops on its own it probably has 1.111111 reliability. LOL
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Well... There are thousands of tasks it needs to get to .9999999 reliability at.... Detecting the existence of a stop sign... is probably one of the easiest of these tasks
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h8b4oz
| 179 |
Stoplight & Stop Signs: Has anyone had their car miss a stop? How do we think the .9999999s are going for reliability? I m personally loving the automatic stop sign and stoplight feature. I love training the network. From my experience it hasn t missed a single stop out of probably close to 1 000 intersections that I ve encountered so far. What are your experiences? Do you go out of your way to help map the roads less traveled to collect data for Tesla? Think of it this way if the car runs one red light or stop sign out of 1 million then there would be multiple incidents per day across the fleet. It has to be closer to 1 in several billion to not be in the headlines every week that a Tesla T-Boned someone at an intersection.
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No missed stop signs for me but beware of switching to a driver profile wherein the option isn t enabled.
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Well... There are thousands of tasks it needs to get to .9999999 reliability at.... Detecting the existence of a stop sign... is probably one of the easiest of these tasks
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h8b4oz
| 179 |
Stoplight & Stop Signs: Has anyone had their car miss a stop? How do we think the .9999999s are going for reliability? I m personally loving the automatic stop sign and stoplight feature. I love training the network. From my experience it hasn t missed a single stop out of probably close to 1 000 intersections that I ve encountered so far. What are your experiences? Do you go out of your way to help map the roads less traveled to collect data for Tesla? Think of it this way if the car runs one red light or stop sign out of 1 million then there would be multiple incidents per day across the fleet. It has to be closer to 1 in several billion to not be in the headlines every week that a Tesla T-Boned someone at an intersection.
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No missed stop signs for me but beware of switching to a driver profile wherein the option isn t enabled.
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There have been roughly 600 000 Hardware 2+ cars shipped around the world. Perhaps as many as 30% have purchased FSD so about 180 000 cars are capable. Assume 50% of them are in the US and Canada where it s been enabled so 90 000. Then make an estimate of how often people are testing it and how often they encounter controlled intersections. My estimates would be that maybe 10% of people are trying it regularly enough to attempt 10 events a day on average. It s been 6 weeks since it began to rolled out in the US and it just got rolled out in Canada this past week. So my own rough estimates say that if the system is **99.99%** accurate there may have been: 90 000 day \\* 0.0001 = **9 events** spread out over 45 days. Or roughly one glitch (of some sort probably not an accident) every week.
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h8uq22
| 2,332 |
Refused delivery of my Model Y Yesterday was the day that I was finally going to take delivery of a Model Y (LR AWD Induction Blue Black). I live in Seattle WA and we (my wife and two kids) drove down to the Renton Service Center for delivery. I was armed with delivery checklist and was mentally prepared to walk away from the car if it seemed like it had too many issues. Well I won t bury the lede: it had way too many issues. The highlights: - Almost a dozen small paint issues scratches all over the car (front and back). - A few large scratches on the rear bumper area. - Several panel gaps that were either too wide or too narrow (flush with another panel or trim). - Condensation in one of the fog lights. - Door trim that was oddly faded and not matching the blackness of the rest of the trim. - Rear tail lights totally mis-mounted and sticking out mis-aligned. It s pretty clear that little to no quality control or inspection went into this vehicle (vin # 011xxx) before it was presented to me for delivery. The delivery specialist I spoke to was pretty clear: if I accepted delivery it would be my car and I d have to hope for the best in terms of getting these issues fixed. He also reminded me that if I returned the car under their 7-day return policy I would be prohibited by buying another Model Y for 1 year. He suggested that I give them a chance to correct the issues. He seemed confident that his delivery team could correct the paint cosmetic issues but he said he d have to check with Service on the issues regarding panel gaps tail light mounting etc. So we drove home without the Tesla Model Y. I apologized to my wife and promised my kids a treat on the way home. I m expecting to hear from Tesla about a re-scheduled delivery so fingers crossed that they can correct these issues! On question and one bit of strong advice: Advice: whether you take delivery OR NOT please take tons of pictures and video. I didn t do that and I really wish I had so that I could share them with you all now and get your thoughts on whether these were issues or not. Question: Does anyone know of any good clear photos of what “spec” panel gaps and alignment should be? I would have killed to have been able to reference this during my delivery. Thanks! **UPDATE #1:** Here is the delivery checklist I used: https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc posts 4739918 **UPDATE #2:** For all the comments about the Tesla Return Policy: https: www.tesla.com support tesla-return-policy Relevant section: “If you decide to order another vehicle you may not order the same trim for a period of 12 months but may order another vehicle in a different trim at any time.” **UPDATE #3:** Just wanted to let you all know that I emailed the Tesla advisor that initially had emailed me about my Model Y back in April. I m not really sure if this person is “assigned” to me and other people had called me about preparing for yesterday s delivery. I don t know if Tesla has “delivery specialists” anymore or what their process is but this was the only person I could think to email. Anyway I asked for a new VIN. After sleeping on it and looking at pictures videos of other Model Y s I just didn t feel good about this car. Even if they could correct all these issues I could see what about the issues I can t see? I had to cancel the auto insurance I had preemptively purchased (whoops) and I m wondering if Tesla is going to start billing me for loan payments on a car that I haven t received yet. They already have my loan deposit and signed loaned paperwork. [**UPDATE #4** - posted as comment](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments h8uq22 refused_delivery_of_my_model_y futyl8g ?utm_source=share& utm_medium=ios_app& utm_name=iossmf) [**UPDATE #5** - posted as comment](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments h8uq22 _ fve5wou ?context=1) [**UPDATE #6** - posted as comment](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments h8uq22 refused_delivery_of_my_model_y fvh5bag ?utm_source=share& utm_medium=ios_app& utm_name=iossmf) [**UPDATE #7** - posted as comment](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments h8uq22 refused_delivery_of_my_model_y fvlo54m ?utm_source=share& utm_medium=ios_app& utm_name=iossmf) **UPDATE #8** - I accepted delivery of my Model Y today! [Read all about the experience](https: www.reddit.com r TeslaLounge comments hj2a2i followup_to_refused_delivery_of_my_model_y ) and check-out the photos I took (the good and the bad).
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You did the right thing. For Tesla to improve issues like this needs to be visible cost wise for management. Hopefully things will get better going forward. It seems like they have a growing awareness of this considering how Elon worded his last email about minimizing the need for rectification needs going forward.
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Bummer. All that build up only to walk away. Sorry. Stories like this make me happy to wait for mine while they work this shit out. Been waiting since 3 15 19.
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h8uq22
| 2,332 |
Refused delivery of my Model Y Yesterday was the day that I was finally going to take delivery of a Model Y (LR AWD Induction Blue Black). I live in Seattle WA and we (my wife and two kids) drove down to the Renton Service Center for delivery. I was armed with delivery checklist and was mentally prepared to walk away from the car if it seemed like it had too many issues. Well I won t bury the lede: it had way too many issues. The highlights: - Almost a dozen small paint issues scratches all over the car (front and back). - A few large scratches on the rear bumper area. - Several panel gaps that were either too wide or too narrow (flush with another panel or trim). - Condensation in one of the fog lights. - Door trim that was oddly faded and not matching the blackness of the rest of the trim. - Rear tail lights totally mis-mounted and sticking out mis-aligned. It s pretty clear that little to no quality control or inspection went into this vehicle (vin # 011xxx) before it was presented to me for delivery. The delivery specialist I spoke to was pretty clear: if I accepted delivery it would be my car and I d have to hope for the best in terms of getting these issues fixed. He also reminded me that if I returned the car under their 7-day return policy I would be prohibited by buying another Model Y for 1 year. He suggested that I give them a chance to correct the issues. He seemed confident that his delivery team could correct the paint cosmetic issues but he said he d have to check with Service on the issues regarding panel gaps tail light mounting etc. So we drove home without the Tesla Model Y. I apologized to my wife and promised my kids a treat on the way home. I m expecting to hear from Tesla about a re-scheduled delivery so fingers crossed that they can correct these issues! On question and one bit of strong advice: Advice: whether you take delivery OR NOT please take tons of pictures and video. I didn t do that and I really wish I had so that I could share them with you all now and get your thoughts on whether these were issues or not. Question: Does anyone know of any good clear photos of what “spec” panel gaps and alignment should be? I would have killed to have been able to reference this during my delivery. Thanks! **UPDATE #1:** Here is the delivery checklist I used: https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc posts 4739918 **UPDATE #2:** For all the comments about the Tesla Return Policy: https: www.tesla.com support tesla-return-policy Relevant section: “If you decide to order another vehicle you may not order the same trim for a period of 12 months but may order another vehicle in a different trim at any time.” **UPDATE #3:** Just wanted to let you all know that I emailed the Tesla advisor that initially had emailed me about my Model Y back in April. I m not really sure if this person is “assigned” to me and other people had called me about preparing for yesterday s delivery. I don t know if Tesla has “delivery specialists” anymore or what their process is but this was the only person I could think to email. Anyway I asked for a new VIN. After sleeping on it and looking at pictures videos of other Model Y s I just didn t feel good about this car. Even if they could correct all these issues I could see what about the issues I can t see? I had to cancel the auto insurance I had preemptively purchased (whoops) and I m wondering if Tesla is going to start billing me for loan payments on a car that I haven t received yet. They already have my loan deposit and signed loaned paperwork. [**UPDATE #4** - posted as comment](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments h8uq22 refused_delivery_of_my_model_y futyl8g ?utm_source=share& utm_medium=ios_app& utm_name=iossmf) [**UPDATE #5** - posted as comment](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments h8uq22 _ fve5wou ?context=1) [**UPDATE #6** - posted as comment](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments h8uq22 refused_delivery_of_my_model_y fvh5bag ?utm_source=share& utm_medium=ios_app& utm_name=iossmf) [**UPDATE #7** - posted as comment](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments h8uq22 refused_delivery_of_my_model_y fvlo54m ?utm_source=share& utm_medium=ios_app& utm_name=iossmf) **UPDATE #8** - I accepted delivery of my Model Y today! [Read all about the experience](https: www.reddit.com r TeslaLounge comments hj2a2i followup_to_refused_delivery_of_my_model_y ) and check-out the photos I took (the good and the bad).
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You did the right thing. For Tesla to improve issues like this needs to be visible cost wise for management. Hopefully things will get better going forward. It seems like they have a growing awareness of this considering how Elon worded his last email about minimizing the need for rectification needs going forward.
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Thanks for your thorough review! It had to be a tough thing to walk away. Such a pity...with family in tow the anticipation and the commitment to walk away. What s really a shame is Tesla s quality with this vehicle. It absolutely makes no sense to pay ~$60k for anything less than near perfection when purchasing a Tesla. More consumers need to walk away and share their stories. Listening Elon?
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h8uq22
| 2,332 |
Refused delivery of my Model Y Yesterday was the day that I was finally going to take delivery of a Model Y (LR AWD Induction Blue Black). I live in Seattle WA and we (my wife and two kids) drove down to the Renton Service Center for delivery. I was armed with delivery checklist and was mentally prepared to walk away from the car if it seemed like it had too many issues. Well I won t bury the lede: it had way too many issues. The highlights: - Almost a dozen small paint issues scratches all over the car (front and back). - A few large scratches on the rear bumper area. - Several panel gaps that were either too wide or too narrow (flush with another panel or trim). - Condensation in one of the fog lights. - Door trim that was oddly faded and not matching the blackness of the rest of the trim. - Rear tail lights totally mis-mounted and sticking out mis-aligned. It s pretty clear that little to no quality control or inspection went into this vehicle (vin # 011xxx) before it was presented to me for delivery. The delivery specialist I spoke to was pretty clear: if I accepted delivery it would be my car and I d have to hope for the best in terms of getting these issues fixed. He also reminded me that if I returned the car under their 7-day return policy I would be prohibited by buying another Model Y for 1 year. He suggested that I give them a chance to correct the issues. He seemed confident that his delivery team could correct the paint cosmetic issues but he said he d have to check with Service on the issues regarding panel gaps tail light mounting etc. So we drove home without the Tesla Model Y. I apologized to my wife and promised my kids a treat on the way home. I m expecting to hear from Tesla about a re-scheduled delivery so fingers crossed that they can correct these issues! On question and one bit of strong advice: Advice: whether you take delivery OR NOT please take tons of pictures and video. I didn t do that and I really wish I had so that I could share them with you all now and get your thoughts on whether these were issues or not. Question: Does anyone know of any good clear photos of what “spec” panel gaps and alignment should be? I would have killed to have been able to reference this during my delivery. Thanks! **UPDATE #1:** Here is the delivery checklist I used: https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc posts 4739918 **UPDATE #2:** For all the comments about the Tesla Return Policy: https: www.tesla.com support tesla-return-policy Relevant section: “If you decide to order another vehicle you may not order the same trim for a period of 12 months but may order another vehicle in a different trim at any time.” **UPDATE #3:** Just wanted to let you all know that I emailed the Tesla advisor that initially had emailed me about my Model Y back in April. I m not really sure if this person is “assigned” to me and other people had called me about preparing for yesterday s delivery. I don t know if Tesla has “delivery specialists” anymore or what their process is but this was the only person I could think to email. Anyway I asked for a new VIN. After sleeping on it and looking at pictures videos of other Model Y s I just didn t feel good about this car. Even if they could correct all these issues I could see what about the issues I can t see? I had to cancel the auto insurance I had preemptively purchased (whoops) and I m wondering if Tesla is going to start billing me for loan payments on a car that I haven t received yet. They already have my loan deposit and signed loaned paperwork. [**UPDATE #4** - posted as comment](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments h8uq22 refused_delivery_of_my_model_y futyl8g ?utm_source=share& utm_medium=ios_app& utm_name=iossmf) [**UPDATE #5** - posted as comment](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments h8uq22 _ fve5wou ?context=1) [**UPDATE #6** - posted as comment](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments h8uq22 refused_delivery_of_my_model_y fvh5bag ?utm_source=share& utm_medium=ios_app& utm_name=iossmf) [**UPDATE #7** - posted as comment](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments h8uq22 refused_delivery_of_my_model_y fvlo54m ?utm_source=share& utm_medium=ios_app& utm_name=iossmf) **UPDATE #8** - I accepted delivery of my Model Y today! [Read all about the experience](https: www.reddit.com r TeslaLounge comments hj2a2i followup_to_refused_delivery_of_my_model_y ) and check-out the photos I took (the good and the bad).
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Thanks for your thorough review! It had to be a tough thing to walk away. Such a pity...with family in tow the anticipation and the commitment to walk away. What s really a shame is Tesla s quality with this vehicle. It absolutely makes no sense to pay ~$60k for anything less than near perfection when purchasing a Tesla. More consumers need to walk away and share their stories. Listening Elon?
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Bummer. All that build up only to walk away. Sorry. Stories like this make me happy to wait for mine while they work this shit out. Been waiting since 3 15 19.
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h9fpeu
| 47 |
Standard Autopilot Use Hey everyone. I was just curious if those of you with SAP used it very often. I have found that having to disengage in order to change lanes is a big drawback in how often I use it. For me it has almost become a fun thing that I show my friends who want to see the car drive itself . I really wish Tesla would consider adding the lane change option as part of the standard package. Edit: This sub is becoming the most downvoting place in reddit. Its a shame that people will downvote stuff that is a simple conversation that isn t the least bit controversial. Guess what? I don t care about the downvotes. Keep them coming!
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One caveat - I ve only had my Tesla for two weeks. But. I have been and will continue to use Standard AutoPilot on all highway freeway driving. Even if I have to change lanes manually. It s just too relaxing. On freeways you aren t driving you are supervising something else driving - that distinction turns a chore into a spectator sport. Oh... I didn t realize we re going 5 under the speed limit following this guy for the last 5 miles. I can totally understand why people get into fewer accidents with AP turned on - the car who cut you off doesn t trigger you to be filled with rage because they didn t cut YOU the driver off... they cut the car off - and the car dealt with it and re-adjusted quickly. It just removes so much of that hostility - it s almost like you re in the back of a taxi cab but the meter isn t running. You don t really care how quickly you get there it s no longer a race because it s not a task you re doing you don t have to keep your mind as engaged as you would if you were the one making sure you were perfectly in the center of the lane or not speeding or not going to hit a car... You re just there as a supervisor.
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I agree. I have EAP FSD on mine so I m used to lane changes now and I don t think I could buy a car without it. My ultrasonics were out for a while and it basically becomes standard AP when that happens and it was awful until they could get it fixed. I hate to pay $8k+ for FSD when I get my Y next year but it s looking like that ll be my only option unless something changes by then.
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h9fpeu
| 47 |
Standard Autopilot Use Hey everyone. I was just curious if those of you with SAP used it very often. I have found that having to disengage in order to change lanes is a big drawback in how often I use it. For me it has almost become a fun thing that I show my friends who want to see the car drive itself . I really wish Tesla would consider adding the lane change option as part of the standard package. Edit: This sub is becoming the most downvoting place in reddit. Its a shame that people will downvote stuff that is a simple conversation that isn t the least bit controversial. Guess what? I don t care about the downvotes. Keep them coming!
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One caveat - I ve only had my Tesla for two weeks. But. I have been and will continue to use Standard AutoPilot on all highway freeway driving. Even if I have to change lanes manually. It s just too relaxing. On freeways you aren t driving you are supervising something else driving - that distinction turns a chore into a spectator sport. Oh... I didn t realize we re going 5 under the speed limit following this guy for the last 5 miles. I can totally understand why people get into fewer accidents with AP turned on - the car who cut you off doesn t trigger you to be filled with rage because they didn t cut YOU the driver off... they cut the car off - and the car dealt with it and re-adjusted quickly. It just removes so much of that hostility - it s almost like you re in the back of a taxi cab but the meter isn t running. You don t really care how quickly you get there it s no longer a race because it s not a task you re doing you don t have to keep your mind as engaged as you would if you were the one making sure you were perfectly in the center of the lane or not speeding or not going to hit a car... You re just there as a supervisor.
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I have standard Autopilot and I use it all the time. Generally speaking I pick a lane and stick with it so while it is annoying to have to exit Autopilot to change lanes it s not enough to make me not want to use it. I have a 70 mile round trip commute that s almost all highway and I m in Autopilot probably 90% of the time. I understand why they don t have auto lane change with standard Autopilot but I would pay to unlock the ability to initiate a lane change with the blinker.
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h9fpeu
| 47 |
Standard Autopilot Use Hey everyone. I was just curious if those of you with SAP used it very often. I have found that having to disengage in order to change lanes is a big drawback in how often I use it. For me it has almost become a fun thing that I show my friends who want to see the car drive itself . I really wish Tesla would consider adding the lane change option as part of the standard package. Edit: This sub is becoming the most downvoting place in reddit. Its a shame that people will downvote stuff that is a simple conversation that isn t the least bit controversial. Guess what? I don t care about the downvotes. Keep them coming!
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One caveat - I ve only had my Tesla for two weeks. But. I have been and will continue to use Standard AutoPilot on all highway freeway driving. Even if I have to change lanes manually. It s just too relaxing. On freeways you aren t driving you are supervising something else driving - that distinction turns a chore into a spectator sport. Oh... I didn t realize we re going 5 under the speed limit following this guy for the last 5 miles. I can totally understand why people get into fewer accidents with AP turned on - the car who cut you off doesn t trigger you to be filled with rage because they didn t cut YOU the driver off... they cut the car off - and the car dealt with it and re-adjusted quickly. It just removes so much of that hostility - it s almost like you re in the back of a taxi cab but the meter isn t running. You don t really care how quickly you get there it s no longer a race because it s not a task you re doing you don t have to keep your mind as engaged as you would if you were the one making sure you were perfectly in the center of the lane or not speeding or not going to hit a car... You re just there as a supervisor.
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I use it all the time on the autobahn with frequent lane changes and it hasn t bothered me a bit yet. I even think i might prefer doing the changes myself than having it change automatically. I wouldn t mind trying it out though. It s just setting the indicator doing the change and double tapping the lever to renegade autopilot. Cruise control and everything stays on so for me it feels like a very good transition between autopilot -> manual steering -> autopilot. Edit: but thinking about it I would welcome auto re-engaging of the autopilot.
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h9fzry
| 230 |
Completed the Test drive for Model Y. I m sold. I was one of the several (I believe) received the text message if I m prepared to take delivery of Model Y in June. I replied and wanted to test drive it. Set up the test drive for Saturday (13 Jun 20). However when I went to the Tesla center they couldn t find my reservation. The sales guy was gracious enough to squeeze in a ten minute slot. My wife and I both drove it within the ten minutes. She loved it more than I did. It s far more advanced that any of the cars trucks spaceships I ve been on. Now it s just a waiting game. For anyone on the fence take the test drive.
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It sounds pretentious but all of the things people say about the driving is true. The effortless acceleration the instant response time the traction the quietness (at city speeds at least.) It s simultaneously a performance vehicle and the ultimate comfort vehicle. Just remember to drive on chill mode if your passengers are prone to motion sickness.
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That s what happens when you test drive a Tesla.
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h9kg1n
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I want better rear visuals So I m duly impressed with the improvements to the visuals the cameras provide the central monitor- cars lanes cones etc are now better visualized than they had been previously. And while the tech is great I can see what is in front of me just as well. I would love for the visuals to have less detail for what s in front and more of what is behind specifically cars. Cars coming up from behind don t register until I feel like I would hit them if I changed lanes. I know I can have the rear camera on at all times but then you can t see the map music etc. Hopefully this would at least be an option in the future....
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If you re changing lanes... mirrors *and* turn your head yooooo
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I agree rear visibility is pretty bad especially at night.
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h9kg1n
| 34 |
I want better rear visuals So I m duly impressed with the improvements to the visuals the cameras provide the central monitor- cars lanes cones etc are now better visualized than they had been previously. And while the tech is great I can see what is in front of me just as well. I would love for the visuals to have less detail for what s in front and more of what is behind specifically cars. Cars coming up from behind don t register until I feel like I would hit them if I changed lanes. I know I can have the rear camera on at all times but then you can t see the map music etc. Hopefully this would at least be an option in the future....
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If you re changing lanes... mirrors *and* turn your head yooooo
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Agree with you here. The car is pretty slow to detect cars motorcycles rear-facing. I can spot a motorcycle 5-8 cars back cutting lanes towards me and the driving visual doesn t display the motorcycle until it is within a 1 car distance from me.
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ha6ex4
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2 weeks from FSD price increase and no AP rewrite leaks. Normally we see leaks of major upcoming software updates weeks in advance. Either Tesla has really cracked down on the early access program or it may not be coming July 1st. Remember how many videos we saw of smart summon? What additional features do you think are coming July 2020 to justify the increase? At this point I m thinking it might just be additional sign intersection recognition and no confirmation Stop Control.
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What makes you think anything new is coming July 1? I think the price increase is for the already released stop light and stop sign stopping. If I remember correctly the last price increase happened about a month after Smart Summon was released. Nothing new was released on the date of the price increase.
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There s sign recognition and stop control as you mentioned but there s already rumours videos floating around of speed limit recognition being reintroduced and roundabout control. I m not saying it s full blown FSD time but surely they re pushing those as the price increase justification compared to what we ve had as a whole until now?
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ha6ex4
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2 weeks from FSD price increase and no AP rewrite leaks. Normally we see leaks of major upcoming software updates weeks in advance. Either Tesla has really cracked down on the early access program or it may not be coming July 1st. Remember how many videos we saw of smart summon? What additional features do you think are coming July 2020 to justify the increase? At this point I m thinking it might just be additional sign intersection recognition and no confirmation Stop Control.
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What makes you think anything new is coming July 1? I think the price increase is for the already released stop light and stop sign stopping. If I remember correctly the last price increase happened about a month after Smart Summon was released. Nothing new was released on the date of the price increase.
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This last leak from Green could be considered a sign of an impending rewrite: https: twitter.com greentheonly status 1271237694509780992 I don t think AP without the rewrite would be able to consistently handle roundabouts.
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