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fwedst
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2020.12.5 Is going out now Dashcam viewer and out-of-order supercharger stalls. https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads 2020-12-5.190478 #post-4620771
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Let me go wake up my car that s been asleep for a week now!
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I have 2020.12.1 Two updates in the last week Model X 2019
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fwedst
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2020.12.5 Is going out now Dashcam viewer and out-of-order supercharger stalls. https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads 2020-12-5.190478 #post-4620771
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Let me go wake up my car that s been asleep for a week now!
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can t wait to get FSD hopefully one day soon
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fwedst
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2020.12.5 Is going out now Dashcam viewer and out-of-order supercharger stalls. https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads 2020-12-5.190478 #post-4620771
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Let me go wake up my car that s been asleep for a week now!
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Cross-post from TMC: I just got this update on my Model S 100D (MCU1 HW2). The release readme just says: 1) broken stalls info on superchargers pin in the map. 2) minor fixes. The problem is with my pendrive: Up to previous version the car correctly read my pendrive (1k+ mp3s and FLACs) and played them all perfectly fine (including album arts resume on entry no un-necessary rescans etc.) Now with 2020.12.5 the pendrive is NOT SHOWN anymore as available for music playing! I already performed all the various resets both with pendrive connected and disconnected but nothing chages. Now when I connect the pendrive the internal LED flashes for about 2 seconds and then it turns off. The drive doesn t show on screen and the car obviously can t play any music out of it. Any suggetsion? TIA
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fwemaa
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Today my model 3 was vandalised again... When I walked to my car this morning I noticed that there were 4 big scratches on the side of the car. Unfortunately Sentry mode again failed to record the crime. Two weeks ago someone hit my car while parking and sentry mode also failed. When I try to view the recorded footage on my laptop a lot of files are 595 bytes without any video. Please Elon fix this because now I have bought an quiet expensive SSD and it serves no purpose.
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Turn off sentry in security settings and let the car deep sleep. It will fix this. Turn on sentry afterward once confirmed recording with dashcam.
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The owners manual has been updated with a list of Tesla recommended flash drives. Getting one of those if you don t already have one is the very first thing you should do or one of these recommended ones. https: amp.reddit.com r teslamotors comments ffnj35 tesla_recommended_usb_drives_from_20204_owners
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fwemaa
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Today my model 3 was vandalised again... When I walked to my car this morning I noticed that there were 4 big scratches on the side of the car. Unfortunately Sentry mode again failed to record the crime. Two weeks ago someone hit my car while parking and sentry mode also failed. When I try to view the recorded footage on my laptop a lot of files are 595 bytes without any video. Please Elon fix this because now I have bought an quiet expensive SSD and it serves no purpose.
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Turn off sentry in security settings and let the car deep sleep. It will fix this. Turn on sentry afterward once confirmed recording with dashcam.
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Did you contacted Tesla support about this? If so what did they tell you? Have you tested the dashcam before regularly parking the car? You could have noticed it sooner. (I m not approving the vandalism but ranting here about Tesla isn t gonna fix your problem)
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fwt3yp
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Tesla Model Y Deep Dive Reveals A Much Better Engineered Car Than The Model 3 [https: jalopnik.com tesla-model-y-deep-dive-reveals-a-much-better-engineere-1842698386](https: jalopnik.com tesla-model-y-deep-dive-reveals-a-much-better-engineere-1842698386) Figured you guys might like this. Easy to ready summary of Munro s current findings.
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No clicks from me for Jalopnik. Muro s site and videos are here: https: munrolive.com munrolive
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I dislike Jalopnik. I don t see why there would be any doubt that engineering talent who have the ability to incrementally improve on older designs wouldn t do the same here. Obviously since Model Y is newer it s better engineered.
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fxjaju
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Sentry Viewer is AMAZING!!!! I ve heard reports of bugs but for me it s been flawless. I m super happy to finally have the capability to view sentry and dash cam files in the car itself. It s such an obvious thing to do. I hope that over time it becomes more feature packed (specifically a map that correlates with the video so that you can see where the video was recorded. Also better controls and maybe a calendar view.
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I sometimes go out to my parked model 3 just to try out the updates while in quarantine
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And I just bought a fucking apple powered camera adapter a month ago.
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fxjaju
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Sentry Viewer is AMAZING!!!! I ve heard reports of bugs but for me it s been flawless. I m super happy to finally have the capability to view sentry and dash cam files in the car itself. It s such an obvious thing to do. I hope that over time it becomes more feature packed (specifically a map that correlates with the video so that you can see where the video was recorded. Also better controls and maybe a calendar view.
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I sometimes go out to my parked model 3 just to try out the updates while in quarantine
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Question for you. Does a sentry mode clip play as one 10-minute clip or is it 10 separate videos? If you can seek through the whole 10 minutes that is excellent.
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fxl5c7
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2020.12.x Software Update Megathread **Version 2020.12.6** began an initial roll out with **Traffic Light and Stop Sign Control**! Some 2020.12.x versions may have been pushed to different cars but have not rolled out to more than 5%. of the fleet. Track your vehicle stats and see past updates: - [Software Updates Wiki](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates) \\- Past Megathreads + other information. - [Teslascope](https: www.teslascope.com software) \\- Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. - [TeslaFi](https: www.teslafi.com firmware ) \\- Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. Discover anything? Such as new Autopilot capabilities changes in the overall UI or known bugs that have been fixed share your findings here! Keep in mind some features may or may not be available based on your Model Model Year MCU Version Autopilot Hardware Version or Geographic Location. Software versions may not be in order and are deployed in batches. [Release Notes - 2020.12.5](https: teslascope.com teslapedia software 2020.12.5) - Driving Visualization Improvements Dashcam Sentry Footage Viewer Performance and Launch Mode Improvements Out of Order Supercharger Stalls [Release Notes - 2020.12.6](https: teslascope.com teslapedia software 2020.12.6) - **Traffic Light and Stop Sign Control (Public Beta)** [Release Notes - 2020.12.10](https: teslascope.com teslapedia software 2020.12.10) - See 2020.12.5
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More updates like this! These seemingly small releases have a major positive impact on owners and their enjoyment of these cars! It takes a lot of work to get a feature like this written tested and published to the fleet but man oh man did I immediately go out to my car when it was done updating.
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Looking forward to the FSD preview stuff that apparently is meant to be in this update for NZ. Just have to wait for the first cars here to receive it...
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fxl5c7
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2020.12.x Software Update Megathread **Version 2020.12.6** began an initial roll out with **Traffic Light and Stop Sign Control**! Some 2020.12.x versions may have been pushed to different cars but have not rolled out to more than 5%. of the fleet. Track your vehicle stats and see past updates: - [Software Updates Wiki](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates) \\- Past Megathreads + other information. - [Teslascope](https: www.teslascope.com software) \\- Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. - [TeslaFi](https: www.teslafi.com firmware ) \\- Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. Discover anything? Such as new Autopilot capabilities changes in the overall UI or known bugs that have been fixed share your findings here! Keep in mind some features may or may not be available based on your Model Model Year MCU Version Autopilot Hardware Version or Geographic Location. Software versions may not be in order and are deployed in batches. [Release Notes - 2020.12.5](https: teslascope.com teslapedia software 2020.12.5) - Driving Visualization Improvements Dashcam Sentry Footage Viewer Performance and Launch Mode Improvements Out of Order Supercharger Stalls [Release Notes - 2020.12.6](https: teslascope.com teslapedia software 2020.12.6) - **Traffic Light and Stop Sign Control (Public Beta)** [Release Notes - 2020.12.10](https: teslascope.com teslapedia software 2020.12.10) - See 2020.12.5
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More updates like this! These seemingly small releases have a major positive impact on owners and their enjoyment of these cars! It takes a lot of work to get a feature like this written tested and published to the fleet but man oh man did I immediately go out to my car when it was done updating.
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Is this being rolled out on M3 s first? I have an 2018 MS with the HW3 and MCU1-> MCU2 upgrade but still stuck on 12.8.3...the car is always plugged into WiFi at home. Wondering when I ll be able to get my Teslacam viewer.
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fxl5c7
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2020.12.x Software Update Megathread **Version 2020.12.6** began an initial roll out with **Traffic Light and Stop Sign Control**! Some 2020.12.x versions may have been pushed to different cars but have not rolled out to more than 5%. of the fleet. Track your vehicle stats and see past updates: - [Software Updates Wiki](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates) \\- Past Megathreads + other information. - [Teslascope](https: www.teslascope.com software) \\- Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. - [TeslaFi](https: www.teslafi.com firmware ) \\- Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. Discover anything? Such as new Autopilot capabilities changes in the overall UI or known bugs that have been fixed share your findings here! Keep in mind some features may or may not be available based on your Model Model Year MCU Version Autopilot Hardware Version or Geographic Location. Software versions may not be in order and are deployed in batches. [Release Notes - 2020.12.5](https: teslascope.com teslapedia software 2020.12.5) - Driving Visualization Improvements Dashcam Sentry Footage Viewer Performance and Launch Mode Improvements Out of Order Supercharger Stalls [Release Notes - 2020.12.6](https: teslascope.com teslapedia software 2020.12.6) - **Traffic Light and Stop Sign Control (Public Beta)** [Release Notes - 2020.12.10](https: teslascope.com teslapedia software 2020.12.10) - See 2020.12.5
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More updates like this! These seemingly small releases have a major positive impact on owners and their enjoyment of these cars! It takes a lot of work to get a feature like this written tested and published to the fleet but man oh man did I immediately go out to my car when it was done updating.
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Just got the update last night. Now the month Ling wait until I can actually use it )
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fxnyd8
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Tesla please add metadata to Sentry mode dashcam! I´m sure it would not be much effort to add metadata to the sentry mode videos. This could include for example: * timestamp(s) of when the proximity sensors were triggered. So you could jump long videos to the point when it matters * telemetry data (speed acceleration location ...) This could be a simple text file that goes together with the videos
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DJI has a very cool solution. They add metadata as subtitles so you can switch them on and off and it s real text and not baked into the picture.
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And then display this info when viewing the footage in the car.
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fy4g0s
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Tesla voice commands for music have really gotten good I can only say after a poor initial start Tesla devs have basically nailed this. Today with Slacker Radio and Spotify you can basically say “play X by Y” and you are off to the races. Almost as good as Alexa in this regard. Well done Tesla.
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Just need Apple Music on there Edit: how is this offending people into downvoting? Reddit is insane
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Voice commands in general have been working very well for me recently.
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fzkhia
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Teslas are even safer now Tesla have always been one of the safest cars available. Now with Covid-19 they are even safer. When we charge at home we don t have to risk getting the virus from gas pump handles and keyboards.
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This title baited me. Thought they released an update that improved the safety features or something.
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That s actually a very good point!
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fzkhia
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Teslas are even safer now Tesla have always been one of the safest cars available. Now with Covid-19 they are even safer. When we charge at home we don t have to risk getting the virus from gas pump handles and keyboards.
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This title baited me. Thought they released an update that improved the safety features or something.
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Don t forget about the bio defense fair filter
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fzkhia
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Teslas are even safer now Tesla have always been one of the safest cars available. Now with Covid-19 they are even safer. When we charge at home we don t have to risk getting the virus from gas pump handles and keyboards.
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This title baited me. Thought they released an update that improved the safety features or something.
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We haven t driven the Camry at all...soo...is it safer? Or am I being safer by staying at home?
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fzn4fd
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Please be understanding for your delivery. A bunch of sales staff is now furloughed including people that process various things on site. If you are taking delivery of a vehicle please fill out and make payments prior to coming it allows for everything to go smoother and with less staff they can handle the workload better. Everyone wants a good experience this is the best way to have one.
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Thank you for the PSA u I_Love_Horse_Porn
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Agree it should be a common sense during times like this yet some people doesn t grasp a concept.
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fzxoe5
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Is Tesla making vehicles for HBO s Westworld? Has anyone else watching Westworld on HBO noticed that the autonomous taxis on the show have Tesla s rear seats from the Model X installed in them? They also featured a police vehicle in a couple of episodes this season that looks very much like the Cybertruck. Is Tesla making these for the Westworld producers?
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Elon s ex-wife Telula was an actress on the show.
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Tesla is making vehicles for anyone who s cash is green.
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fzxoe5
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Is Tesla making vehicles for HBO s Westworld? Has anyone else watching Westworld on HBO noticed that the autonomous taxis on the show have Tesla s rear seats from the Model X installed in them? They also featured a police vehicle in a couple of episodes this season that looks very much like the Cybertruck. Is Tesla making these for the Westworld producers?
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Also there was a scene where two falcon 9 were landing The truth is Jonathan Nolan and Elon Musk are friends. Plus the idea of sending a red car to Mars was also Jonathan Nolan s idea suggested to Elon Musk. [https: www.youtube.com watch?v=kzlUyrccbos](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=kzlUyrccbos)
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And yet Ipaces are in it.
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fzxoe5
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Is Tesla making vehicles for HBO s Westworld? Has anyone else watching Westworld on HBO noticed that the autonomous taxis on the show have Tesla s rear seats from the Model X installed in them? They also featured a police vehicle in a couple of episodes this season that looks very much like the Cybertruck. Is Tesla making these for the Westworld producers?
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Also there was a scene where two falcon 9 were landing The truth is Jonathan Nolan and Elon Musk are friends. Plus the idea of sending a red car to Mars was also Jonathan Nolan s idea suggested to Elon Musk. [https: www.youtube.com watch?v=kzlUyrccbos](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=kzlUyrccbos)
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Tesla is making vehicles for anyone who s cash is green.
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g17bn1
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Green Light Chime! Genius. It would be awesome to use green light detection to activate a short pleasant chime when the light changes green while waiting at a red light. This would be great because sometimes visibility is an issue and others people just get distracted. A lot of times while driving with a co-worker and talking he tells me green when it changes lol. Would be awesome to have the car play a nice Tesla-original sound that is a little nudge. As an option of course.
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Great idea
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That s a great idea for people to tend to take their eyes off the lights when stopped for red lights. But as for visibility reasons there is no situation where the car will see the green light better than you can. Not in its current state anyway. You should absolutely be confirming the green light with your own eyes.
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g17q1h
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How would you improve Tesla s Dashcam Viewer? I just got the dashcam viewer and can already see a couple of ways to improve it. 1) There needs to be a way to share videos. At least let us save them to our phones. 2) It would be great to be able to see them from our phone apps 3) A security PIN would be good in case you don t want guests or unauthorized viewers to see where you ve been. Any other ideas?
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Sentry mode recordings should snap to the moment that triggered the recording
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Add timestamp and optional speed and coordinates embedded into the video.
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g17q1h
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How would you improve Tesla s Dashcam Viewer? I just got the dashcam viewer and can already see a couple of ways to improve it. 1) There needs to be a way to share videos. At least let us save them to our phones. 2) It would be great to be able to see them from our phone apps 3) A security PIN would be good in case you don t want guests or unauthorized viewers to see where you ve been. Any other ideas?
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Sentry mode recordings should snap to the moment that triggered the recording
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I haven t checked but valet mode should restrict access to dashcam viewer. I can check later it would make sense as you wouldn t want a valet doing something they shouldn t and then deleting the clip.
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g17q1h
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How would you improve Tesla s Dashcam Viewer? I just got the dashcam viewer and can already see a couple of ways to improve it. 1) There needs to be a way to share videos. At least let us save them to our phones. 2) It would be great to be able to see them from our phone apps 3) A security PIN would be good in case you don t want guests or unauthorized viewers to see where you ve been. Any other ideas?
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Sentry mode recordings should snap to the moment that triggered the recording
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There s no reason to build in bloated file sharing system. It s on a usb drive for god sake. I think the ability to scrub through the video and actually have the player show the video as you slide left and right could help you locate what you re looking for. Right now the video continues playing as you scrub and jumps when you let go of the slider.
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g25oiu
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How many people have ordered a Cybertruck? I m due for a new vehicle within the next two years and currently drive a 2007 Chevy Silverado. I ve been eyeing the Model Y but really love the idea of driving a Cybertruck because I love the design and how different it is. I m looking for some pros and cons to buying the Cybertruck as a first Tesla vehicle over the Model Y.
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Gonna put a hot tub in the back of mine. Or just tub of water. And then summon myself around the neighborhood. Ya know real classy stuff.
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It may be a long wait even with a tri-motor with plaid but it s gonna be worth it.
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g25oiu
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How many people have ordered a Cybertruck? I m due for a new vehicle within the next two years and currently drive a 2007 Chevy Silverado. I ve been eyeing the Model Y but really love the idea of driving a Cybertruck because I love the design and how different it is. I m looking for some pros and cons to buying the Cybertruck as a first Tesla vehicle over the Model Y.
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Gonna put a hot tub in the back of mine. Or just tub of water. And then summon myself around the neighborhood. Ya know real classy stuff.
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Tri-Motor Plaid CyberTruck will ship much faster. Highest price one always do. Get that.
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g25oiu
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How many people have ordered a Cybertruck? I m due for a new vehicle within the next two years and currently drive a 2007 Chevy Silverado. I ve been eyeing the Model Y but really love the idea of driving a Cybertruck because I love the design and how different it is. I m looking for some pros and cons to buying the Cybertruck as a first Tesla vehicle over the Model Y.
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Gonna put a hot tub in the back of mine. Or just tub of water. And then summon myself around the neighborhood. Ya know real classy stuff.
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600 000
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g3bma7
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FSD zero percent financing option now available for owners in China. Hopefully this will come to US as well https: twitter.com tesla__mania status 1251131715663179777?s=21
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This is only worthwhile if the software stays tied to your account and not the car.
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But do you have to keep paying if the car gets totaled?
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g3bma7
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FSD zero percent financing option now available for owners in China. Hopefully this will come to US as well https: twitter.com tesla__mania status 1251131715663179777?s=21
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This is only worthwhile if the software stays tied to your account and not the car.
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Yeah no thanks. No way I m making a monthly payment for software for my car.
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g3bma7
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FSD zero percent financing option now available for owners in China. Hopefully this will come to US as well https: twitter.com tesla__mania status 1251131715663179777?s=21
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This is only worthwhile if the software stays tied to your account and not the car.
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I d be buying it on a new car with only basic bitch autopilot but no goddamned way would I buy it again on a car with Enhanced Autopilot.
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g3fm26
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Sentry mode events now include a JSON file with event details Oddly I can t seem to find anyone talking about this but since updating to 2020.12.5 my Model 3 is now creating an event.json file for Sentry Mode events that includes details about the event that triggered it. This is the contents of the file: { timestamp : 2020-04-17T19:10:04 city : My City est_lat : -0 est_lon : 0 reason : sentry_aware_object_detection } I ve obviously changed the city and co-ords so you can t track down my local supermarket but this sort of data is something people have been asking for a while now!
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It also creates the file if you save the dash cam footage with the time and location details recorded when you tapped to save
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Or they left in a write statement used in testing. I thought most of that would be embedded in the vid files.
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g3fm26
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Sentry mode events now include a JSON file with event details Oddly I can t seem to find anyone talking about this but since updating to 2020.12.5 my Model 3 is now creating an event.json file for Sentry Mode events that includes details about the event that triggered it. This is the contents of the file: { timestamp : 2020-04-17T19:10:04 city : My City est_lat : -0 est_lon : 0 reason : sentry_aware_object_detection } I ve obviously changed the city and co-ords so you can t track down my local supermarket but this sort of data is something people have been asking for a while now!
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I really hope Tesla takes advantages of this themselves so they implement a “skip to time of event” button.
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Is the timestamp the moment the button was pressed or the time the video starts? I wish there was a way to get right to the moment that triggered a recording.
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g3fm26
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Sentry mode events now include a JSON file with event details Oddly I can t seem to find anyone talking about this but since updating to 2020.12.5 my Model 3 is now creating an event.json file for Sentry Mode events that includes details about the event that triggered it. This is the contents of the file: { timestamp : 2020-04-17T19:10:04 city : My City est_lat : -0 est_lon : 0 reason : sentry_aware_object_detection } I ve obviously changed the city and co-ords so you can t track down my local supermarket but this sort of data is something people have been asking for a while now!
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I really hope Tesla takes advantages of this themselves so they implement a “skip to time of event” button.
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Or they left in a write statement used in testing. I thought most of that would be embedded in the vid files.
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g3qaxa
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Went from a C7 Corvette to a Model 3 Performance - 4 months in Background - my daily driver was a 2016 Malibu and my weekend car was a 2017 Corvette. I sold both and got the M3P as a daily driver. The good - * 0-60 is fun! * Handles a lot better than I thought it would. * The overall experience is great. As a daily driver It s easily the best car I ve ever driven. * Autopilot. I drive 25K miles a year. A lot of it in stop-and-go traffic. I under estimated the stress relief. * New track mode features are freaking amazing. The ability to bias power to the front or rear wheels or completely turn them off is great. I think the closest price car that can do this is a Mercedes E63 starting at 110K. The complaints - this is through my prism as a performance car enthusiast. Speed nannies can stop reading here. The daily driving aspect of the car is almost perfect. * The ZERO to 60 is fun. Anything from a 40 MPH roll is quite underwhelming and from 60+ forget about it. Your moms Honda Accord Turbo will give it a run for your money. It sucks that the only solution here is a plaid power train or a 2 speed gearbox - both very expensive solutions. * The seats. They need a competition seat as an option. Something with suede inserts and larger side bolsters. I slip around way too much in these things. * Chrome exterior trim. I hate that I would have to spend around $800 to fix this. It s pretty common that sportier type trim levels of other vehicles have body colored molding. I m glad to see they corrected this with the Model Y. * Lack of heads up display. I Feel that this is the most knit-picky complaint and honestly I thought the complaints about having the move your eyes not even your head to see info on the screen was over-blown but I get it now. Plus this would compliment the high tech feel the car obviously already has.
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The P3D 50-75 mph time is 2.1 seconds which is the exact same as a C7 corvette. A 2018 accord turbo does that in 6.8 seconds..... I think you may be having the opposite of a placebo effect. Yes the pull drops off at higher speeds but at anything below 75-80 it is still significantly faster than most cars if you punch it.
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I went from a C6z06 + a 2018 malibu to a LR RWD model 3. I actually didn t care at at all for the corvette HUD -- only things I really miss 1. Noise 2. Being able to draw 11 s down the road at any speed 3. rev match downshifting is so much fun...but Autopilot is better for daily life. Your thought on seats: yeah the seats are pretty crap in the model 3 for performance driving but for daily use comfort they are fantastic.
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g3qaxa
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Went from a C7 Corvette to a Model 3 Performance - 4 months in Background - my daily driver was a 2016 Malibu and my weekend car was a 2017 Corvette. I sold both and got the M3P as a daily driver. The good - * 0-60 is fun! * Handles a lot better than I thought it would. * The overall experience is great. As a daily driver It s easily the best car I ve ever driven. * Autopilot. I drive 25K miles a year. A lot of it in stop-and-go traffic. I under estimated the stress relief. * New track mode features are freaking amazing. The ability to bias power to the front or rear wheels or completely turn them off is great. I think the closest price car that can do this is a Mercedes E63 starting at 110K. The complaints - this is through my prism as a performance car enthusiast. Speed nannies can stop reading here. The daily driving aspect of the car is almost perfect. * The ZERO to 60 is fun. Anything from a 40 MPH roll is quite underwhelming and from 60+ forget about it. Your moms Honda Accord Turbo will give it a run for your money. It sucks that the only solution here is a plaid power train or a 2 speed gearbox - both very expensive solutions. * The seats. They need a competition seat as an option. Something with suede inserts and larger side bolsters. I slip around way too much in these things. * Chrome exterior trim. I hate that I would have to spend around $800 to fix this. It s pretty common that sportier type trim levels of other vehicles have body colored molding. I m glad to see they corrected this with the Model Y. * Lack of heads up display. I Feel that this is the most knit-picky complaint and honestly I thought the complaints about having the move your eyes not even your head to see info on the screen was over-blown but I get it now. Plus this would compliment the high tech feel the car obviously already has.
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The P3D 50-75 mph time is 2.1 seconds which is the exact same as a C7 corvette. A 2018 accord turbo does that in 6.8 seconds..... I think you may be having the opposite of a placebo effect. Yes the pull drops off at higher speeds but at anything below 75-80 it is still significantly faster than most cars if you punch it.
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The track package should have been a 8 to 10 k option with racing seat and suspension mods on top of the things you get now. Make it more extreme. But high end acceleration can t really be increased it is designed to max out at around 160 mph
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Went from a C7 Corvette to a Model 3 Performance - 4 months in Background - my daily driver was a 2016 Malibu and my weekend car was a 2017 Corvette. I sold both and got the M3P as a daily driver. The good - * 0-60 is fun! * Handles a lot better than I thought it would. * The overall experience is great. As a daily driver It s easily the best car I ve ever driven. * Autopilot. I drive 25K miles a year. A lot of it in stop-and-go traffic. I under estimated the stress relief. * New track mode features are freaking amazing. The ability to bias power to the front or rear wheels or completely turn them off is great. I think the closest price car that can do this is a Mercedes E63 starting at 110K. The complaints - this is through my prism as a performance car enthusiast. Speed nannies can stop reading here. The daily driving aspect of the car is almost perfect. * The ZERO to 60 is fun. Anything from a 40 MPH roll is quite underwhelming and from 60+ forget about it. Your moms Honda Accord Turbo will give it a run for your money. It sucks that the only solution here is a plaid power train or a 2 speed gearbox - both very expensive solutions. * The seats. They need a competition seat as an option. Something with suede inserts and larger side bolsters. I slip around way too much in these things. * Chrome exterior trim. I hate that I would have to spend around $800 to fix this. It s pretty common that sportier type trim levels of other vehicles have body colored molding. I m glad to see they corrected this with the Model Y. * Lack of heads up display. I Feel that this is the most knit-picky complaint and honestly I thought the complaints about having the move your eyes not even your head to see info on the screen was over-blown but I get it now. Plus this would compliment the high tech feel the car obviously already has.
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The P3D 50-75 mph time is 2.1 seconds which is the exact same as a C7 corvette. A 2018 accord turbo does that in 6.8 seconds..... I think you may be having the opposite of a placebo effect. Yes the pull drops off at higher speeds but at anything below 75-80 it is still significantly faster than most cars if you punch it.
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> Chrome exterior trim If you can put stickers on you can do this. [Kenriko Tesla Model 3 Professional Chrome Delete Kit](https: kenriko.com products tesla-model-3-chrome-delete-kit)
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Model Y Third Row Order When the Model X came out the 7 seats were bundled with all of the initial orders to capture the highest revenue possible. Pushing it back a year on the Y probably has a reason but not even being given the option to preorder is pretty unusual. I d like to preorder to get on the list but I will not be able to until Tesla re-opens the option for the third row. I don t NEED a third row but it would be nice to have in a pinch. So what s going on: is it a supply issue? is there just not enough space for the third row back there and Tesla is going to remove the option completely? is the third row so poor that Tesla does not want the initial reviews from the press to include negative remarks about the third row and a lower overall score? does Tesla need to redesign the 2nd and third row seats to make room for a third row? does Tesla need to make a major design change such as making the third row rear-facing changing the roof line etc.? is there going to be a large price increase that Tesla doesn t want to eat on anymore cars? Every time I brought up a rear facing third row before Sandy Munro s video I got downvoted bit now that he mentioned it it may give more credence to the possibility of it being legit. If that s the case I hope the have a deploying step from the bumper similar to what you can find on a pickup truck. In any case I find it odd that there is not even an option to pre-order. Makes me think it not going to be considered a 7 seater anymore but likely a 5+2 like the Model S. There is also a possibility that the change is major enough that Tesla doesn t want to false advertise letting people pre-order a product that will be radically different in price and or design.
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It s because currently the rear crash structure is a multipart piece that uses a CNCed component to join everything together. Tesla has two huge presses on order to make that rear structure in a single piece which will presumably improve the rear crash structure safety to the point where they can put rear seats in the back. At least that s what Elon alluded too in his latest podcast appearance. The presses should come online sometime later this year.
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It will come when it comes. Just like the towing package. Just wait you will be fine.
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g445dy
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Model Y Third Row Order When the Model X came out the 7 seats were bundled with all of the initial orders to capture the highest revenue possible. Pushing it back a year on the Y probably has a reason but not even being given the option to preorder is pretty unusual. I d like to preorder to get on the list but I will not be able to until Tesla re-opens the option for the third row. I don t NEED a third row but it would be nice to have in a pinch. So what s going on: is it a supply issue? is there just not enough space for the third row back there and Tesla is going to remove the option completely? is the third row so poor that Tesla does not want the initial reviews from the press to include negative remarks about the third row and a lower overall score? does Tesla need to redesign the 2nd and third row seats to make room for a third row? does Tesla need to make a major design change such as making the third row rear-facing changing the roof line etc.? is there going to be a large price increase that Tesla doesn t want to eat on anymore cars? Every time I brought up a rear facing third row before Sandy Munro s video I got downvoted bit now that he mentioned it it may give more credence to the possibility of it being legit. If that s the case I hope the have a deploying step from the bumper similar to what you can find on a pickup truck. In any case I find it odd that there is not even an option to pre-order. Makes me think it not going to be considered a 7 seater anymore but likely a 5+2 like the Model S. There is also a possibility that the change is major enough that Tesla doesn t want to false advertise letting people pre-order a product that will be radically different in price and or design.
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It s because currently the rear crash structure is a multipart piece that uses a CNCed component to join everything together. Tesla has two huge presses on order to make that rear structure in a single piece which will presumably improve the rear crash structure safety to the point where they can put rear seats in the back. At least that s what Elon alluded too in his latest podcast appearance. The presses should come online sometime later this year.
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Just because it didn t show up at launch doesn t mean it not coming out or there was a problem. I d just wait it out when they run out of people wanting the 5 seater they will bring out the 7 seater.
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g445dy
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Model Y Third Row Order When the Model X came out the 7 seats were bundled with all of the initial orders to capture the highest revenue possible. Pushing it back a year on the Y probably has a reason but not even being given the option to preorder is pretty unusual. I d like to preorder to get on the list but I will not be able to until Tesla re-opens the option for the third row. I don t NEED a third row but it would be nice to have in a pinch. So what s going on: is it a supply issue? is there just not enough space for the third row back there and Tesla is going to remove the option completely? is the third row so poor that Tesla does not want the initial reviews from the press to include negative remarks about the third row and a lower overall score? does Tesla need to redesign the 2nd and third row seats to make room for a third row? does Tesla need to make a major design change such as making the third row rear-facing changing the roof line etc.? is there going to be a large price increase that Tesla doesn t want to eat on anymore cars? Every time I brought up a rear facing third row before Sandy Munro s video I got downvoted bit now that he mentioned it it may give more credence to the possibility of it being legit. If that s the case I hope the have a deploying step from the bumper similar to what you can find on a pickup truck. In any case I find it odd that there is not even an option to pre-order. Makes me think it not going to be considered a 7 seater anymore but likely a 5+2 like the Model S. There is also a possibility that the change is major enough that Tesla doesn t want to false advertise letting people pre-order a product that will be radically different in price and or design.
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It s because currently the rear crash structure is a multipart piece that uses a CNCed component to join everything together. Tesla has two huge presses on order to make that rear structure in a single piece which will presumably improve the rear crash structure safety to the point where they can put rear seats in the back. At least that s what Elon alluded too in his latest podcast appearance. The presses should come online sometime later this year.
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I think because in NA the five seat is the most popular and easier for the seat team to not make the extra seats till the five seat backlog has been filled.
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Job Prospect Hey guys! I m about to apply for an IT job at Tesla. Does anybody have any tips like keywords that Tesla may be looking for in a resume? And if any of you work in the engineering department what s a typical day like for you?
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Be patient. It s a slow process. I applied to Tesla for a perfect fit job and made it through all the rounds of interviews. Was flown out to Palo Alto for the final round with the top brass. Was asked to give examples of a problem in a previous job and how I solved it. I nailed it maybe too well. Was told a week later that I would be bored in that position. Sad and rejected about a week later realized they were right and I appreciated their wisdom and honesty!
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It might help to provide some more detail. What part of IT? Help desk Windows admin DevOps Kubernetes Networking Pipeline? You can probably find into on the infrastructure in forums or online. But most of all make sure the your resume and cover letter contain what you are good at most of all. It wouldn t do you much good to put Kubernetes on your resume if all that you have done is an intro course. I have people put down skills that they have only passing familiarity with and that is usually the end of the interview. Simple and to your strengths is what will get you hired. Good luck to you!
| 50 | 5 | 6,845 |
g494gm
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Job Prospect Hey guys! I m about to apply for an IT job at Tesla. Does anybody have any tips like keywords that Tesla may be looking for in a resume? And if any of you work in the engineering department what s a typical day like for you?
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I no longer apply to Tesla. First time I finished my 4th interview a phone call with the regional manager and the next interview was an in-person interview with the same person. I passed the phone interview and we were setting up the in person. The assistant kept pushing back the date until 2 weeks later they said they would not be moving forward. The next week Tesla announced 10% layoffs. About 2-3 years ago. This last time i had finished my 4th in person interview with the same RM. Two weeks and no news after bugging them I get the news they are passing on me to go with an internal candidate. I got this vibe this would happen by the situation and the simplistic questions asked at the final interview. Well three weeks later COViD hits and all the sales delivery staff are basically furloughed. So every time I apply and get an interview something bad happens with the company. So as an investor believer in the mission and fan of Elon I will no longer apply and gave up on that dream of working for team Tesla as it goes to shit Everytime I do.
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Given that they ve cut salaries across the board maybe they re on a hiring freeze? https: www.google.com amp s www.theverge.com platform amp 2020 4 7 21213159 tesla-salary-cuts-furloughs-coronavirus-covid-19-pandemic Happy to give you feedback on your resume if you like!
| 36 | 3 | 6,846 |
g494gm
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Job Prospect Hey guys! I m about to apply for an IT job at Tesla. Does anybody have any tips like keywords that Tesla may be looking for in a resume? And if any of you work in the engineering department what s a typical day like for you?
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I no longer apply to Tesla. First time I finished my 4th interview a phone call with the regional manager and the next interview was an in-person interview with the same person. I passed the phone interview and we were setting up the in person. The assistant kept pushing back the date until 2 weeks later they said they would not be moving forward. The next week Tesla announced 10% layoffs. About 2-3 years ago. This last time i had finished my 4th in person interview with the same RM. Two weeks and no news after bugging them I get the news they are passing on me to go with an internal candidate. I got this vibe this would happen by the situation and the simplistic questions asked at the final interview. Well three weeks later COViD hits and all the sales delivery staff are basically furloughed. So every time I apply and get an interview something bad happens with the company. So as an investor believer in the mission and fan of Elon I will no longer apply and gave up on that dream of working for team Tesla as it goes to shit Everytime I do.
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It might help to provide some more detail. What part of IT? Help desk Windows admin DevOps Kubernetes Networking Pipeline? You can probably find into on the infrastructure in forums or online. But most of all make sure the your resume and cover letter contain what you are good at most of all. It wouldn t do you much good to put Kubernetes on your resume if all that you have done is an intro course. I have people put down skills that they have only passing familiarity with and that is usually the end of the interview. Simple and to your strengths is what will get you hired. Good luck to you!
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g4fdd2
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Tesla Model 3 - Affordability Worksheet [link to worksheet](https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 17W4gFi0vrPcUIPg8cHsMA5xIkHlVEH87x4OOEPUp41E edit) Like many of you I am eagerly working towards saving up to buy a Tesla model 3 and in combing through the internet I have struggled to find either a decent template or guide to help access the affordability of the car. With that being said I ve decided to build my own for the community. This worksheet will help you access all hidden fees with the car purchase whether or not it fits into your own personal budget. An analysis of battery degradation and estimated fuel savings based on your own driving patterns with NPV valve. The entire worksheet is dynamic so you only have to input your own assumptions which are labeled in blue and you will get a detailed picture of the cars purchase feasibility based on your own situation. I really hope this helps you all make a better financial decision. Edit: I have added all Tesla models to the worksheet in addition to the model 3! Note: Numbers currently in-place in the worksheet don t reflect my personal income or expense they are just placeholders and illustrative. Cheers! [link to spreadsheet ](https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 17W4gFi0vrPcUIPg8cHsMA5xIkHlVEH87x4OOEPUp41E edit)
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It s so important for people to understand their debt to income ratio beyond just the car as well. I wish these types of ratios financial planning budgeting etc. were taught more to students throughout high school and or explained to adults thoroughly prior to financing major purchases. Ideally you stay in the 20% or less range for debt to income although some lenders will let people exceed 40% when getting a mortgage. Unless you are already pretty wealthy 40% will basically make you feel like you re always living paycheck to paycheck.
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This is an awesome worksheet thank you for sharing it! There are tons of questions about economic feasibility for XYZ situation and this would be an awesome template to share with those folks. One suggestion feature request for future versions — the gas cost vs. EV savings calculation table is useful but in addition to “lifetime of vehicle” perhaps it might be helpful to also apply the gas cost vs. EV savings into the monthly expense calculations as well as an option. A toggle would be useful since it s sort of fuzzy math but there may be folks driving gas guzzlers right now for whom actually seeing the reduced gas expenditures reflected in their monthly calculations would make a meaningful difference. Great work — very intuitive and clearly presented!
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g4fdd2
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Tesla Model 3 - Affordability Worksheet [link to worksheet](https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 17W4gFi0vrPcUIPg8cHsMA5xIkHlVEH87x4OOEPUp41E edit) Like many of you I am eagerly working towards saving up to buy a Tesla model 3 and in combing through the internet I have struggled to find either a decent template or guide to help access the affordability of the car. With that being said I ve decided to build my own for the community. This worksheet will help you access all hidden fees with the car purchase whether or not it fits into your own personal budget. An analysis of battery degradation and estimated fuel savings based on your own driving patterns with NPV valve. The entire worksheet is dynamic so you only have to input your own assumptions which are labeled in blue and you will get a detailed picture of the cars purchase feasibility based on your own situation. I really hope this helps you all make a better financial decision. Edit: I have added all Tesla models to the worksheet in addition to the model 3! Note: Numbers currently in-place in the worksheet don t reflect my personal income or expense they are just placeholders and illustrative. Cheers! [link to spreadsheet ](https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 17W4gFi0vrPcUIPg8cHsMA5xIkHlVEH87x4OOEPUp41E edit)
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It s so important for people to understand their debt to income ratio beyond just the car as well. I wish these types of ratios financial planning budgeting etc. were taught more to students throughout high school and or explained to adults thoroughly prior to financing major purchases. Ideally you stay in the 20% or less range for debt to income although some lenders will let people exceed 40% when getting a mortgage. Unless you are already pretty wealthy 40% will basically make you feel like you re always living paycheck to paycheck.
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Wow that s a lot of work. Thank you!
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g4fdd2
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Tesla Model 3 - Affordability Worksheet [link to worksheet](https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 17W4gFi0vrPcUIPg8cHsMA5xIkHlVEH87x4OOEPUp41E edit) Like many of you I am eagerly working towards saving up to buy a Tesla model 3 and in combing through the internet I have struggled to find either a decent template or guide to help access the affordability of the car. With that being said I ve decided to build my own for the community. This worksheet will help you access all hidden fees with the car purchase whether or not it fits into your own personal budget. An analysis of battery degradation and estimated fuel savings based on your own driving patterns with NPV valve. The entire worksheet is dynamic so you only have to input your own assumptions which are labeled in blue and you will get a detailed picture of the cars purchase feasibility based on your own situation. I really hope this helps you all make a better financial decision. Edit: I have added all Tesla models to the worksheet in addition to the model 3! Note: Numbers currently in-place in the worksheet don t reflect my personal income or expense they are just placeholders and illustrative. Cheers! [link to spreadsheet ](https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 17W4gFi0vrPcUIPg8cHsMA5xIkHlVEH87x4OOEPUp41E edit)
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I ll take the heat for being that flippant person: nobody should put themselves in a position to require a spreadsheet to determine affordability of a car. particularly a luxury-priced car. It shouldn t be the basis for telling you which trim of the Cybertruck you should buy. Targeted savings also should be an expenditure line-item before entertainment. It shouldn t follow projected bonus income. I ll get off my soapbox now.
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this is really awesome! thanks for this. i d really love to see the Y and X. this would be a great calculator online maybe even use your referral code?
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g4w354
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Shower thought: If Ford goes broke then Tesla would technically be the oldest major automaker in America. Since both GM and Chrysler were dissolved upon bankruptcy and reconstituted as new entities.
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Ford has 34 Billion dollars cash on hand or short-term investments. They aren t even close to going out of business.
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Shelby American?
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g4w354
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Shower thought: If Ford goes broke then Tesla would technically be the oldest major automaker in America. Since both GM and Chrysler were dissolved upon bankruptcy and reconstituted as new entities.
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Ford has 34 Billion dollars cash on hand or short-term investments. They aren t even close to going out of business.
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I wonder if Tesla is planning to buy up any of those factories for a good price.
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g4w354
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Shower thought: If Ford goes broke then Tesla would technically be the oldest major automaker in America. Since both GM and Chrysler were dissolved upon bankruptcy and reconstituted as new entities.
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Ford has 34 Billion dollars cash on hand or short-term investments. They aren t even close to going out of business.
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How would Ford go bankrupt if they sell the most popular truck on the road????
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g4xkzn
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Employees at Tesla what advice could you give to a high schooler working towards a career at Tesla? I d like to work in the engineering field in some way or another but I m not really sure where to start to become qualified for a career with Tesla so I m looking for anywhere I can find it. Any advice is appreciated! :) Edit: Sophomore 3.0 GPA at the moment. I was working towards getting it up then all the schools closed Edit 2: Thank you everybody! I greatly appreciate all the advice!
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I m a software engineer just some advice: don t try to build your career off of working for one company. Figure out what your passion is and if it s a good match with Tesla go for it. There are a lot of engineering departments at Tesla: Hardware Mechanical Electrical Software Systems. Try to dabble a little bit in each of them and see where clicks for you. A raspberry pi or an arduino are awesome components that you can put some cool projects together with.
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Non-Tesla IT employee giving my 2 cents I would look up Tesla Internship Opportunities that align with the field you want to work with and start looking at the requirements they detail in those listings. Also recommend creating a LinkedIn as that is a great resource. You can begin networking on LinkedIn with Tesla employees in your field reach out and see if any would be willing to answer questions provide advice as well. You might be early to start doing that but helps to get ahead start to develop those relationships. (similar to what you are doing here on Reddit but more targeted maybe start of Freshman year of college). Ask respectfully and don t expect much but can be worth a shot!
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g4xkzn
| 566 |
Employees at Tesla what advice could you give to a high schooler working towards a career at Tesla? I d like to work in the engineering field in some way or another but I m not really sure where to start to become qualified for a career with Tesla so I m looking for anywhere I can find it. Any advice is appreciated! :) Edit: Sophomore 3.0 GPA at the moment. I was working towards getting it up then all the schools closed Edit 2: Thank you everybody! I greatly appreciate all the advice!
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I m a manufacturing engineer there on the 3 Y battery but I originally studied to become a medical device design engineer. I ve got two groups of advice: how to become a practical effective engineer and how specifically to line yourself up for a gig with Tesla. First off how do you become an effective engineer? Make stuff! Work on projects that require a variety of skills and learn as you go. Get skilled at modelling (CAD like solidworks making technical drawings designing for manufacture) and fabrication techniques (milling laser cutting welding assembly). Make projects that deal with a variety of problems like thermal issues electronics issues chemical issues etc. so that you get an intuitive sense of how the physical world works. One great way to get all of these skills is to pick up an older car and work on fixing it up! You ll learn so much about how real-world physical systems work and this intuitive sense of how the world works will give you the power to create bend it to your advantage as an engineer. Pick up a cheaper 3D printer and print your own modified parts for the car! Additionally browse the heck out of McMaster Carr s catalogue and even maybe Grainger. This will give you a solid idea of what physical systems exist - there are a MILLION different kinds of fasteners latches heating elements wheels containers materials you NAME IT and if you re not super familiar with most of the components that exist on that website you ll spend a LOT of time re-inventing wheels that cost more take more time and don t work as well as parts that ar available off the shelf. Pick up a raspberry pi and learn to program in Python. It s 100% the future of engineering without question. Programming on an RPi is 50x better for learning as an aspiring engineer because it has GPIO (general purpose input output) pins that you can hook up to real-world devices to control them (like relays to control valves LED s or 7-segment displays buttons etc.). PC s have a hard time doing this over USB. There are some great classes on websites like udemy plus plenty of free ones. Learning to make projects with a RPi will give you the skills required to turn your visions into working systems. *The essence of a good engineer is the ability to turn a conceptual objective into a functional real-world system.* Now onto how to actually _land_ a job at Tesla? Go to school for some type of engineering doesn t particularly matter a WHOLE lot what kind but if you re not sure just go with mechanical engineering. Get decent grades but really engage in things you re passionate about. Join clubs like a rocketry club and build rocket engines (super neat design and build challenge) or join a longboarding club and make your own electric longboards! If possible get into research and if you can get published that s super awesome. This whole time make sure you re taking pictures so you can make a visual portfolio for your work. This is a HUGE turn-on for hiring people being able to physically see the work you ve done. Extra mega bonus points if you actually close out the projects (e.g. succeed with building it and making it fully functional). Then decide on a specific role (design engineer industrial engineer manufacturing engineer test engineer etc.) and apply for a whole lot of jobs in that field after school. It s pretty hard to get a gig at Tesla right out of school because you should be able to be effective in your role from the start. I worked for a 2.5 years in manufacturing before I really got much attention and I d won a few awards that I put in my portfolio and that seemed to really get a lot of attention. Of course apply for internships along the way but those are super competitive at Tesla and I never got in so I don t have a ton of separate advice for that. The last thing I d say is to be persistent. I applied to probably fifty different roles here before I even got a call back. Persistence is the biggest thing an individual can do to improve their odds of success getting in here and succeeding while you re here. spiel If you want a copy of my portfolio before I applied at Tesla hit me up and I can send you a link. Good luck! edit: as u joggle1 pointed out try really hard to get internships and or co-ops! They re super duper helpful in a wide variety of ways. edit 2: as u EducationalResult8 pointed out it should be a traditional-ish field of engineering. I studied biomedical engineering for example but > 80% of its curriculum was shared with Mechanical Engineering at least at my school. As long as you re digging into physics mechanics math materials etc. you should be on the right path.
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Non-Tesla IT employee giving my 2 cents I would look up Tesla Internship Opportunities that align with the field you want to work with and start looking at the requirements they detail in those listings. Also recommend creating a LinkedIn as that is a great resource. You can begin networking on LinkedIn with Tesla employees in your field reach out and see if any would be willing to answer questions provide advice as well. You might be early to start doing that but helps to get ahead start to develop those relationships. (similar to what you are doing here on Reddit but more targeted maybe start of Freshman year of college). Ask respectfully and don t expect much but can be worth a shot!
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g4xkzn
| 566 |
Employees at Tesla what advice could you give to a high schooler working towards a career at Tesla? I d like to work in the engineering field in some way or another but I m not really sure where to start to become qualified for a career with Tesla so I m looking for anywhere I can find it. Any advice is appreciated! :) Edit: Sophomore 3.0 GPA at the moment. I was working towards getting it up then all the schools closed Edit 2: Thank you everybody! I greatly appreciate all the advice!
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I m a manufacturing engineer there on the 3 Y battery but I originally studied to become a medical device design engineer. I ve got two groups of advice: how to become a practical effective engineer and how specifically to line yourself up for a gig with Tesla. First off how do you become an effective engineer? Make stuff! Work on projects that require a variety of skills and learn as you go. Get skilled at modelling (CAD like solidworks making technical drawings designing for manufacture) and fabrication techniques (milling laser cutting welding assembly). Make projects that deal with a variety of problems like thermal issues electronics issues chemical issues etc. so that you get an intuitive sense of how the physical world works. One great way to get all of these skills is to pick up an older car and work on fixing it up! You ll learn so much about how real-world physical systems work and this intuitive sense of how the world works will give you the power to create bend it to your advantage as an engineer. Pick up a cheaper 3D printer and print your own modified parts for the car! Additionally browse the heck out of McMaster Carr s catalogue and even maybe Grainger. This will give you a solid idea of what physical systems exist - there are a MILLION different kinds of fasteners latches heating elements wheels containers materials you NAME IT and if you re not super familiar with most of the components that exist on that website you ll spend a LOT of time re-inventing wheels that cost more take more time and don t work as well as parts that ar available off the shelf. Pick up a raspberry pi and learn to program in Python. It s 100% the future of engineering without question. Programming on an RPi is 50x better for learning as an aspiring engineer because it has GPIO (general purpose input output) pins that you can hook up to real-world devices to control them (like relays to control valves LED s or 7-segment displays buttons etc.). PC s have a hard time doing this over USB. There are some great classes on websites like udemy plus plenty of free ones. Learning to make projects with a RPi will give you the skills required to turn your visions into working systems. *The essence of a good engineer is the ability to turn a conceptual objective into a functional real-world system.* Now onto how to actually _land_ a job at Tesla? Go to school for some type of engineering doesn t particularly matter a WHOLE lot what kind but if you re not sure just go with mechanical engineering. Get decent grades but really engage in things you re passionate about. Join clubs like a rocketry club and build rocket engines (super neat design and build challenge) or join a longboarding club and make your own electric longboards! If possible get into research and if you can get published that s super awesome. This whole time make sure you re taking pictures so you can make a visual portfolio for your work. This is a HUGE turn-on for hiring people being able to physically see the work you ve done. Extra mega bonus points if you actually close out the projects (e.g. succeed with building it and making it fully functional). Then decide on a specific role (design engineer industrial engineer manufacturing engineer test engineer etc.) and apply for a whole lot of jobs in that field after school. It s pretty hard to get a gig at Tesla right out of school because you should be able to be effective in your role from the start. I worked for a 2.5 years in manufacturing before I really got much attention and I d won a few awards that I put in my portfolio and that seemed to really get a lot of attention. Of course apply for internships along the way but those are super competitive at Tesla and I never got in so I don t have a ton of separate advice for that. The last thing I d say is to be persistent. I applied to probably fifty different roles here before I even got a call back. Persistence is the biggest thing an individual can do to improve their odds of success getting in here and succeeding while you re here. spiel If you want a copy of my portfolio before I applied at Tesla hit me up and I can send you a link. Good luck! edit: as u joggle1 pointed out try really hard to get internships and or co-ops! They re super duper helpful in a wide variety of ways. edit 2: as u EducationalResult8 pointed out it should be a traditional-ish field of engineering. I studied biomedical engineering for example but > 80% of its curriculum was shared with Mechanical Engineering at least at my school. As long as you re digging into physics mechanics math materials etc. you should be on the right path.
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Grandpa retired engineer here. My best advice is to study study study all those science and engineering classes. You want straight A s in high school so you can get into a top notch engineering program at a well regarded university. It doesn t have to be Stanford or Berkeley but since that s in the Bay Area it would help. Plus you would make friends who might work at interesting places after college that you would like to work at too. Also when you re in college you will need to study study study as well. Straight A s in college opens up more employment doors. Yeah that s a lot of hard work which is why lots of people don t choose to become engineers. But it pays off later with a pretty good living.
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g57smj
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How do you combat stupidity at Superchargers? Recently when I went to go supercharge near my home in the Silicon Valley I came upon a full supercharging station even though the map had one stall available. Upon pulling in I noticed that the Model S in the first stall not only was crooked in the spot but was also not plugged in (see image). I was frustrated mostly because they were just using the spot as a parking space and taking up a valuable charger for someone like myself who does not have access to charging at home. Is there any way to report people like this via VIN? How does tesla handle these kinds of situations as I m sure it was not their first time using a supercharging space as a prefered parking space. We get charged idling fees for leaving the car plugged in I feel like people should have some repercussions for actions like this. [https: imgur.com 6RiHwVc](https: imgur.com 6RiHwVc)
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Plug them in.
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Probably towed? 🤷♂️ i can definitely tell you he wasnt at the gym there 🤣
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g57smj
| 60 |
How do you combat stupidity at Superchargers? Recently when I went to go supercharge near my home in the Silicon Valley I came upon a full supercharging station even though the map had one stall available. Upon pulling in I noticed that the Model S in the first stall not only was crooked in the spot but was also not plugged in (see image). I was frustrated mostly because they were just using the spot as a parking space and taking up a valuable charger for someone like myself who does not have access to charging at home. Is there any way to report people like this via VIN? How does tesla handle these kinds of situations as I m sure it was not their first time using a supercharging space as a prefered parking space. We get charged idling fees for leaving the car plugged in I feel like people should have some repercussions for actions like this. [https: imgur.com 6RiHwVc](https: imgur.com 6RiHwVc)
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Plug them in.
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What s going on with the wood in front of their wheel?
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g57smj
| 60 |
How do you combat stupidity at Superchargers? Recently when I went to go supercharge near my home in the Silicon Valley I came upon a full supercharging station even though the map had one stall available. Upon pulling in I noticed that the Model S in the first stall not only was crooked in the spot but was also not plugged in (see image). I was frustrated mostly because they were just using the spot as a parking space and taking up a valuable charger for someone like myself who does not have access to charging at home. Is there any way to report people like this via VIN? How does tesla handle these kinds of situations as I m sure it was not their first time using a supercharging space as a prefered parking space. We get charged idling fees for leaving the car plugged in I feel like people should have some repercussions for actions like this. [https: imgur.com 6RiHwVc](https: imgur.com 6RiHwVc)
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This looks like the Whole Foods in San Mateo. If so there s typically an attendant there always super busy. But given the shelter in place the attendant is probably not there so unfortunate things like this happen.
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Probably towed? 🤷♂️ i can definitely tell you he wasnt at the gym there 🤣
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g5lpjy
| 29 |
Apple Music vs Spotify on Tesla 3 Hi all I ve just pulled the trigger on a model 3 and am trying to figure out the audio. My understanding is that Spotify has ‘native integration in the infotainment system whereas Apple Music is essentially Bluetooth from phone. I m a long time Google Play Music and Tidal user but have been using Apple Music for the past few months when I got a new iPhone. So my question is this: how good is the Spotify app on the Tesla? Is it worth cancelling Apple Music and Tidal? I ll keep the Google as I get and free YouTube with it. I don t want to spend time moving playlists if there s going to be proper support for Google Apple Tidal isna few months Thanks.
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The native Spotify app is very limited and buggy. It s missing a lot of parts of Spotify like shared playlists global recents and basic controls for organizing songs (for example add song to playlist ‘x ). I normally browse Spotify on my phone and continue playback on the car screen. I haven t heard any rumors of plans for other music services.
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Worth it for me. The UI is decent enough and although the playlists can be finicky I get everything I need from it.
| 38 | 7 | 6,860 |
g5pbit
| 60 |
Got a pretty good value on my totaled Model 3 So I unfortunately crashed my 2018 Model 3 last week and the insurance company declared it totaled. After some negotiation they gave me a value of just about $49 500 (that is including tax and after my $500 deductible). It also includes a value for EAP and FSD which I had purchased separately (although not full price) and a premium for the color (Black). It also took into account the mileage (about 28 000). I had bought the car in Dec. 2018. Some things to note if you have to go through this - while ordinarily they are supposed to use comparable cars within 100 miles of your location these cars are exempt because there are so few comparables on the market. They also were willing to consider comps that I provided. After their initial assessment I reviewed their report and sent them 3 comps that I found to try to raise the price. One of them was for a Long Range so they didn t consider it. One of them they said was overpriced for the market so they didn t consider it. They did consider the last one and that raised their initial amount about $800 so it was worth it. Overall not a bad experience I was very concerned they would lowball me but I think they were fair and it helped that these cars maintain their value so well. Now I have a big decision to make I will be buying another Tesla but they don t sell the midrange anymore and I won t go down to standard so I can either spend the extra for a long range or splurge on the Model X which I always really wanted. Edit: Someone asked below this was a midrange RWD model.
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Split the difference and get a Model Y.
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M3 over MX every day! M3 is way more fun to drive around if you don t need that extra space
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g624ei
| 36 |
Michael Moore Documentary Opposing Renewable Energy Hi everyone Recently Michael Moore has uploaded a documentary titled *[Planet Of The Humans](https: youtu.be Zk11vI-7czE)* which examines climate change and renewable energy. I haven t finished it yet but from reading the reviews and watching some of it so far the premise of the film seems to be: renewable energy sucks and it ll never work and solar doesn t work in the rain and and... “No amount of batteries are going to save us” says the director. What s the Tesla communities take on this film?
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> the premise of the film seems to be: renewable energy sucks and it ll never work and solar doesn t work in the rain and and I watched the entire film yesterday. I did disagree with the film s perspective that renewable energy cannot work because of intermittency. Tesla s PowerPack and MegaPack products solve that problem. However the film s overall message is much broader: the level of industrialization necessary to support a population of 7.5 Billion (and growing) people has an enormous impact that ecosystems may not be able to withstand. Electrification and renewable energy can solve the CO2 problem but civilization still generates a tremendous amount of environmental destruction and other industrial waste. The extraction of raw materials is highly destructive to landscapes and results in a lot of water pollution. The industrial agriculture necessary to feed Billions of people depletes soil and fresh water. Agricultural runoff from animals and pesticides can severely disrupt ocean ecosystems. Production of alloys plastics semiconductors and pretty much everything that drives modern economies involves toxic chemicals. I don t know if it is possible to sustain industrialized civilization on Earth for Billions of people without serious consequences for the environment upon which we depend for food and water. There are too many people using too much energy and demanding use of too many resources. I ve read estimates that Earth can sustain no more than 1.5-3 Billion people living American or Western European lifestyles. The best case scenario I see is that civilization moves most of its industrial activity into space before it is too late. This is partly why I watch the activities of SpaceX and Blue Origin. Inexpensive space travel that opens up the solar system and makes an r TheExpanse like future possible is the only way I see modern civilization surviving.
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its not opposing renewable energies... It is pointing out that greenwashing by goverments and media have led us to a point where whatever we do it is too late. Which is true its nice that the mainstream will start talking about it now that this film is out
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g624ei
| 36 |
Michael Moore Documentary Opposing Renewable Energy Hi everyone Recently Michael Moore has uploaded a documentary titled *[Planet Of The Humans](https: youtu.be Zk11vI-7czE)* which examines climate change and renewable energy. I haven t finished it yet but from reading the reviews and watching some of it so far the premise of the film seems to be: renewable energy sucks and it ll never work and solar doesn t work in the rain and and... “No amount of batteries are going to save us” says the director. What s the Tesla communities take on this film?
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> the premise of the film seems to be: renewable energy sucks and it ll never work and solar doesn t work in the rain and and I watched the entire film yesterday. I did disagree with the film s perspective that renewable energy cannot work because of intermittency. Tesla s PowerPack and MegaPack products solve that problem. However the film s overall message is much broader: the level of industrialization necessary to support a population of 7.5 Billion (and growing) people has an enormous impact that ecosystems may not be able to withstand. Electrification and renewable energy can solve the CO2 problem but civilization still generates a tremendous amount of environmental destruction and other industrial waste. The extraction of raw materials is highly destructive to landscapes and results in a lot of water pollution. The industrial agriculture necessary to feed Billions of people depletes soil and fresh water. Agricultural runoff from animals and pesticides can severely disrupt ocean ecosystems. Production of alloys plastics semiconductors and pretty much everything that drives modern economies involves toxic chemicals. I don t know if it is possible to sustain industrialized civilization on Earth for Billions of people without serious consequences for the environment upon which we depend for food and water. There are too many people using too much energy and demanding use of too many resources. I ve read estimates that Earth can sustain no more than 1.5-3 Billion people living American or Western European lifestyles. The best case scenario I see is that civilization moves most of its industrial activity into space before it is too late. This is partly why I watch the activities of SpaceX and Blue Origin. Inexpensive space travel that opens up the solar system and makes an r TheExpanse like future possible is the only way I see modern civilization surviving.
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Green washing is a real problem but the first half or the film presents a lot of numbers that are dated and are worst case scenarios. 8% efficiency solar panels? It then presents these as present reality. I m all for a good doom and gloom documentary but I didn t like it we much as I had hoped. The general premise is likely true but I don t like the way a lot of it was presented. The director should have ideally presented some ideas on how to help curb consumption like a carbon tax or getting rid of gdp and replacing it with something like Bhutan uses as potential examples. Just telling people to consume less and not procreate wont be effective in influencing behavior for the vast majority of people. And the film likely makes people skeptical of doing anything green so it effectively helps the Koch brothers even further.
| 52 | 25 | 6,863 |
g6dt2k
| 280 |
Camping in a Model Y My partner and I are going to be driving my Model Y from my place in the Bay Area to his place in Washington (Came home to pick up my Model Y. Planning on sheltering in place in Washington.) and we re going to try camping in the back during the trip. Based on reviews from campers using the Model 3 I decided to pick up an Exped Megamat Duo 10M as the mattress. I m happy to report that it fits with room to spare (though it does fit a little snugly around the wheel wells). The USB-C ports should be easily accessible for charging smartphones and I can t wait to see the view of the stars through that panoramic roof. Edit: I did not move the driver or passenger seat from standard driving positions to fit the mattress in so we ll have more headroom available than the photo shows. [Mattress Fitment](https: i.imgur.com u8Mmoja.jpg)
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If you can keep good track of the range cost of camping (internal temp external temp time spent etc.). It ll be especially interesting to see how efficient the model Y heat pump is in that scenario and I m sure a lot of folks here would appreciate that data. I m planning on doing the same at some point but I ve got no idea how much battery I need to camp in the car. Have a great time
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Looks like fun!
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g6dt2k
| 280 |
Camping in a Model Y My partner and I are going to be driving my Model Y from my place in the Bay Area to his place in Washington (Came home to pick up my Model Y. Planning on sheltering in place in Washington.) and we re going to try camping in the back during the trip. Based on reviews from campers using the Model 3 I decided to pick up an Exped Megamat Duo 10M as the mattress. I m happy to report that it fits with room to spare (though it does fit a little snugly around the wheel wells). The USB-C ports should be easily accessible for charging smartphones and I can t wait to see the view of the stars through that panoramic roof. Edit: I did not move the driver or passenger seat from standard driving positions to fit the mattress in so we ll have more headroom available than the photo shows. [Mattress Fitment](https: i.imgur.com u8Mmoja.jpg)
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If you can keep good track of the range cost of camping (internal temp external temp time spent etc.). It ll be especially interesting to see how efficient the model Y heat pump is in that scenario and I m sure a lot of folks here would appreciate that data. I m planning on doing the same at some point but I ve got no idea how much battery I need to camp in the car. Have a great time
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Curious where you put all your stuff while camping. Do you use a roof box or pack lightly and use the frunk?
| 101 | 5 | 6,865 |
g6dt2k
| 280 |
Camping in a Model Y My partner and I are going to be driving my Model Y from my place in the Bay Area to his place in Washington (Came home to pick up my Model Y. Planning on sheltering in place in Washington.) and we re going to try camping in the back during the trip. Based on reviews from campers using the Model 3 I decided to pick up an Exped Megamat Duo 10M as the mattress. I m happy to report that it fits with room to spare (though it does fit a little snugly around the wheel wells). The USB-C ports should be easily accessible for charging smartphones and I can t wait to see the view of the stars through that panoramic roof. Edit: I did not move the driver or passenger seat from standard driving positions to fit the mattress in so we ll have more headroom available than the photo shows. [Mattress Fitment](https: i.imgur.com u8Mmoja.jpg)
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If you can keep good track of the range cost of camping (internal temp external temp time spent etc.). It ll be especially interesting to see how efficient the model Y heat pump is in that scenario and I m sure a lot of folks here would appreciate that data. I m planning on doing the same at some point but I ve got no idea how much battery I need to camp in the car. Have a great time
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Have a safe trip! I imagine the roof will offer great sites at night (depending where you are)!
| 101 | 8 | 6,866 |
g6nr3g
| 22 |
Which trims of the Model 3 have 14 speaker system with subwoofer? I m looking to buy a Model 3. When searching online there isn t an easy way to search for Model 3 - Any Year - Subwoofer so I need to know what trim of each year has it. For 2020 it s included in Long Range and Performance trims Anyone know for 2019 2018?
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\\- Mid Range \\- Long Range RWD \\- Long Range AWD \\- Performance Standard Range and Standard Range Plus don t have the subwoofer.
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All Long Range including LR RWD.
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g6nr3g
| 22 |
Which trims of the Model 3 have 14 speaker system with subwoofer? I m looking to buy a Model 3. When searching online there isn t an easy way to search for Model 3 - Any Year - Subwoofer so I need to know what trim of each year has it. For 2020 it s included in Long Range and Performance trims Anyone know for 2019 2018?
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\\- Mid Range \\- Long Range RWD \\- Long Range AWD \\- Performance Standard Range and Standard Range Plus don t have the subwoofer.
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The LEMR (limited edition Mid Range) has the full sound system set up just like the long ranges. The mid range was identical except for the small battery pack.
| 40 | 4 | 6,868 |
g6nr3g
| 22 |
Which trims of the Model 3 have 14 speaker system with subwoofer? I m looking to buy a Model 3. When searching online there isn t an easy way to search for Model 3 - Any Year - Subwoofer so I need to know what trim of each year has it. For 2020 it s included in Long Range and Performance trims Anyone know for 2019 2018?
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\\- Mid Range \\- Long Range RWD \\- Long Range AWD \\- Performance Standard Range and Standard Range Plus don t have the subwoofer.
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Anything with the full premium interior will have it. This excludes the Standard Range Plus which only has partial premium interior.
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g6zy0l
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Audi copies Tesla s incentives page and forgets to delete part about Tesla https: imgur.com a qGmKbZK Source: IG story of Vivien member of the Third Row Tesla Podcast: https: instagram.com flcnhvy Edit: Audi if you see this please don t fire the folks who did this. No one outside of the Tesla community knows of this and you already fixed the page. No harm done to your brand. It s just funny that s all.
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Too bad its not as easy to copy Tesla s cars
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This is great! : D
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g6zy0l
| 7,827 |
Audi copies Tesla s incentives page and forgets to delete part about Tesla https: imgur.com a qGmKbZK Source: IG story of Vivien member of the Third Row Tesla Podcast: https: instagram.com flcnhvy Edit: Audi if you see this please don t fire the folks who did this. No one outside of the Tesla community knows of this and you already fixed the page. No harm done to your brand. It s just funny that s all.
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Too bad its not as easy to copy Tesla s cars
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Shows you who is real daddy.
| 1,443 | 16 | 6,871 |
g6zy0l
| 7,827 |
Audi copies Tesla s incentives page and forgets to delete part about Tesla https: imgur.com a qGmKbZK Source: IG story of Vivien member of the Third Row Tesla Podcast: https: instagram.com flcnhvy Edit: Audi if you see this please don t fire the folks who did this. No one outside of the Tesla community knows of this and you already fixed the page. No harm done to your brand. It s just funny that s all.
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Too bad its not as easy to copy Tesla s cars
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Do you have a direct link?
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g775qp
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How clean are electric cars? Not specifically Tesla related but new research by European NGO Transport & Environment shows that on electric cars emit 3x less CO2 compared to gas powered vehicles and win even in coal powered countries. This very broad study looks at many aspects of the energy generation and consumption stages. It also adds a [calculator](https: www.transportenvironment.org what-we-do electric-cars how-clean-are-electric-cars) to look at differences per country as well as compared to petrol diesel cars. For the whole of the EU is shows that an electric vehicle will surpass a gas powered car by \\~23k kilometers (\\~14.2k miles) driven after that the differences increase even more. [https: www.transportenvironment.org what-we-do electric-cars](https: www.transportenvironment.org what-we-do electric-cars)
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100% of oil uses electricity to get from the well to the engine. Most of the comparisons I ve seen have gas magically appearing at the pump. If we closed all the refineries gas stations pipelines wells and oil exploration And used that electricity for electric vehicles I bet there would be lower demand on the grid. The majority of energy burned in an ICE is released as waste heat. EV s use a lot more of that energy for actual productive work. Distribution of electricity is also much more JIT than gas and diesel which takes more of it to make distribution happen.
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https: youtu.be G67i_Z8ukD4
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g775qp
| 34 |
How clean are electric cars? Not specifically Tesla related but new research by European NGO Transport & Environment shows that on electric cars emit 3x less CO2 compared to gas powered vehicles and win even in coal powered countries. This very broad study looks at many aspects of the energy generation and consumption stages. It also adds a [calculator](https: www.transportenvironment.org what-we-do electric-cars how-clean-are-electric-cars) to look at differences per country as well as compared to petrol diesel cars. For the whole of the EU is shows that an electric vehicle will surpass a gas powered car by \\~23k kilometers (\\~14.2k miles) driven after that the differences increase even more. [https: www.transportenvironment.org what-we-do electric-cars](https: www.transportenvironment.org what-we-do electric-cars)
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100% of oil uses electricity to get from the well to the engine. Most of the comparisons I ve seen have gas magically appearing at the pump. If we closed all the refineries gas stations pipelines wells and oil exploration And used that electricity for electric vehicles I bet there would be lower demand on the grid. The majority of energy burned in an ICE is released as waste heat. EV s use a lot more of that energy for actual productive work. Distribution of electricity is also much more JIT than gas and diesel which takes more of it to make distribution happen.
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Duh. Cars that don t produce pollution directly don t produce as much pollution?
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g79tnk
| 85 |
Love my Model X but get the extended warranty 75D owner with now 75k miles on my model X. Love it. But the costs I ve put into it after warranty are ridiculous. First it was the arm shafts (~$7000) then I get a call in March for my model Y delivery will be trading in the X then never heard from anyone. Since then have had to replace the 12v and then yesterday my power steering completely went out. Mind you haven t been driving the car at all recently. Another ($1500). These cars are all so new nobody knows the issues they will run into once above 50k miles. I urge you to buy extended warranty.
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My 2015 S has had an absurd number of issues and it s always one of the superfluous bells and whistles. I mean I m happy the key parts seem solid (battery motor) but man fuck those retractable handles. I made a big deal about my 30+ calls for service and practically demanded a replacement car. I settled for a free 2 year warranty extension. I should probably trade in the car before that ends :| my 2017 has had very few issues (so far)
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I was quite happy to rid myself of the X.
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g79tnk
| 85 |
Love my Model X but get the extended warranty 75D owner with now 75k miles on my model X. Love it. But the costs I ve put into it after warranty are ridiculous. First it was the arm shafts (~$7000) then I get a call in March for my model Y delivery will be trading in the X then never heard from anyone. Since then have had to replace the 12v and then yesterday my power steering completely went out. Mind you haven t been driving the car at all recently. Another ($1500). These cars are all so new nobody knows the issues they will run into once above 50k miles. I urge you to buy extended warranty.
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My 2015 S has had an absurd number of issues and it s always one of the superfluous bells and whistles. I mean I m happy the key parts seem solid (battery motor) but man fuck those retractable handles. I made a big deal about my 30+ calls for service and practically demanded a replacement car. I settled for a free 2 year warranty extension. I should probably trade in the car before that ends :| my 2017 has had very few issues (so far)
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If the factory won t trust it why would you ? Get the warranty or get out.
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g7bh4u
| 267 |
That was fast I just ordered a model 3 last night and I already got the call to pick it up on Tuesday. I can t believe how fast and easy the whole process was and I can t wait to go pick it up!
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Positivity must STOP! Don t you know there s a fucking worldwide pandemic going on and we re supposed to ALL be hunkered down...waiting for a disinfectant injection to save us? For christsakes don t be the first on your block. Oh ya - congrats on your new Tesla 👏
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Out of curiosity what are your specs?
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g7drgc
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Currently being updated to 2020.12.6 Will update with release notes. EDIT: Traffic Light and Stop Sign Controls (Beta) [ITS HERE BOYS](https: imgur.com 7Caypsx)
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It includes traffic light and stop sign control! Just finished installing on P3D-
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Just got the notification and updating my car now. But I won t be using my car anytime soon to know the release log if there was significant change. Given that it s an incremental software version bump it looks like bug fixes. Edit: looks like Tesla is changing their release behavior and passing on the tested features quicker compared to last testing.
| 67 | 2 | 6,878 |
g7drgc
| 428 |
Currently being updated to 2020.12.6 Will update with release notes. EDIT: Traffic Light and Stop Sign Controls (Beta) [ITS HERE BOYS](https: imgur.com 7Caypsx)
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It includes traffic light and stop sign control! Just finished installing on P3D-
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Same here. A buddy of mine is on the EAP sw and had the update with FSD features (stopping g at red light and stop signs) and he also got this same update. I wonder if he is going to lose those fsd features or if I am gaining them.
| 67 | 5 | 6,879 |
g7drgc
| 428 |
Currently being updated to 2020.12.6 Will update with release notes. EDIT: Traffic Light and Stop Sign Controls (Beta) [ITS HERE BOYS](https: imgur.com 7Caypsx)
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It includes traffic light and stop sign control! Just finished installing on P3D-
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[Saw the same.](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments g7570a daily_discussion_support_thread_april_24 foghso6 )
| 67 | 6 | 6,880 |
g7wq27
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Unpopular Opinion: Tesla Model S X does not need an interior refresh. I recently took delivery of a 2020 S LR+. I traded in a 2017 S 75. The 2020 overall interior design is basically the exact same layout as the 2017. Even earlier models have very similar design. There are subtle differences I notice such as the interior build quality is better. The material along the headboards and sideboards are of better quality. The seats are more comfortable. There is even a light now that comes standard in the driver and passenger vanity mirrors. I feel extremely comfortable in the S and have no desire for a refresh. I think the interior design is timeless. I love how it is minimalist and the screen is flushed within the front console. I love the front instrument cluster and how both can be upgraded and changed with software updates. I love the amount of information available in front of you. If the S X were to go the route of the 3 Y I think it would be a major step back in luxury. There is nothing wrong with the interior or the 3 Y. Compared to the S\\X it is even more minimalist in which less information can be displayed at a given time. So what can be done to upgrade the interior of the S X? Maybe I don t have enough innovation in me but my attitude is if it ain t broke don t fix it. Would it really matter if Tesla changed the air vents? Would it really matter if they choose to put back in seat cooling or add massage seats? Would it really matter if they added a HUD? Would it matter if they add climate controls in the back seats? Please help me understand what Tesla can do to drastically update the interior of the S X. I firmly believe a drastic refresh will never come as it is not needed and Tesla will continue to make small improvements to their interior of all models. Please note: I m not talking about exterior.
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I feel strongly that the S needs a refresh in and out. If they did this it would be a huge hit and be the absolute best buy in the $80-100K segment: [https: electrek.co 2018 08 06 tesla-model-s-refresh-concept ](https: electrek.co 2018 08 06 tesla-model-s-refresh-concept )
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Agree 100%. I love my Model S interior 🤟🏻👍🏼
| 47 | 5 | 6,881 |
g7wq27
| 63 |
Unpopular Opinion: Tesla Model S X does not need an interior refresh. I recently took delivery of a 2020 S LR+. I traded in a 2017 S 75. The 2020 overall interior design is basically the exact same layout as the 2017. Even earlier models have very similar design. There are subtle differences I notice such as the interior build quality is better. The material along the headboards and sideboards are of better quality. The seats are more comfortable. There is even a light now that comes standard in the driver and passenger vanity mirrors. I feel extremely comfortable in the S and have no desire for a refresh. I think the interior design is timeless. I love how it is minimalist and the screen is flushed within the front console. I love the front instrument cluster and how both can be upgraded and changed with software updates. I love the amount of information available in front of you. If the S X were to go the route of the 3 Y I think it would be a major step back in luxury. There is nothing wrong with the interior or the 3 Y. Compared to the S\\X it is even more minimalist in which less information can be displayed at a given time. So what can be done to upgrade the interior of the S X? Maybe I don t have enough innovation in me but my attitude is if it ain t broke don t fix it. Would it really matter if Tesla changed the air vents? Would it really matter if they choose to put back in seat cooling or add massage seats? Would it really matter if they added a HUD? Would it matter if they add climate controls in the back seats? Please help me understand what Tesla can do to drastically update the interior of the S X. I firmly believe a drastic refresh will never come as it is not needed and Tesla will continue to make small improvements to their interior of all models. Please note: I m not talking about exterior.
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Nevermind the dash and console and all that but the fact that you can t get cooled seats is pathetic.
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When they move to a single horizontal screen like the 3 Y Cybertruck it ll also bring the labor and material costs down so you ll get more value out of the other parts of the car. After driving my 3 for like 1.75 years now having the speedo off to the middle works just as well as looking down. Also If they are going to sell the model S with no steering wheel eventually the extra screen and computer hw required to run it will just be unnecessary cost.
| 44 | 2 | 6,882 |
g7wq27
| 63 |
Unpopular Opinion: Tesla Model S X does not need an interior refresh. I recently took delivery of a 2020 S LR+. I traded in a 2017 S 75. The 2020 overall interior design is basically the exact same layout as the 2017. Even earlier models have very similar design. There are subtle differences I notice such as the interior build quality is better. The material along the headboards and sideboards are of better quality. The seats are more comfortable. There is even a light now that comes standard in the driver and passenger vanity mirrors. I feel extremely comfortable in the S and have no desire for a refresh. I think the interior design is timeless. I love how it is minimalist and the screen is flushed within the front console. I love the front instrument cluster and how both can be upgraded and changed with software updates. I love the amount of information available in front of you. If the S X were to go the route of the 3 Y I think it would be a major step back in luxury. There is nothing wrong with the interior or the 3 Y. Compared to the S\\X it is even more minimalist in which less information can be displayed at a given time. So what can be done to upgrade the interior of the S X? Maybe I don t have enough innovation in me but my attitude is if it ain t broke don t fix it. Would it really matter if Tesla changed the air vents? Would it really matter if they choose to put back in seat cooling or add massage seats? Would it really matter if they added a HUD? Would it matter if they add climate controls in the back seats? Please help me understand what Tesla can do to drastically update the interior of the S X. I firmly believe a drastic refresh will never come as it is not needed and Tesla will continue to make small improvements to their interior of all models. Please note: I m not talking about exterior.
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Nevermind the dash and console and all that but the fact that you can t get cooled seats is pathetic.
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It doesn t need a refresh but it would be awesome if it got one
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People with home chargers do you have a Tesla wall charger or a regular wall charger? I m wondering what kind of chargers you have at home and why? I don t have a Tesla but my next car will 95% be electric and the Model 3 is a good contender. Also people with Tesla chargers what are you gonna do if you ever change car brand?
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14-50. Costs $20 in parts and 30minutes to install. Takes 6 hours to charge from 20-80%. I only plug mine in once a week as it is.
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https: i.imgur.com 2TRoW6T.jpg This guy!
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g82egz
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People with home chargers do you have a Tesla wall charger or a regular wall charger? I m wondering what kind of chargers you have at home and why? I don t have a Tesla but my next car will 95% be electric and the Model 3 is a good contender. Also people with Tesla chargers what are you gonna do if you ever change car brand?
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14-50. Costs $20 in parts and 30minutes to install. Takes 6 hours to charge from 20-80%. I only plug mine in once a week as it is.
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Just to be clear the charger is in the car... I have a Tesla wall connector. If I ever change brands there s always a Tesla to j1772 adapter... though for the price I could just get another EVSE. That adapter is more for if you have two different brands of EVs at home.
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g82egz
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People with home chargers do you have a Tesla wall charger or a regular wall charger? I m wondering what kind of chargers you have at home and why? I don t have a Tesla but my next car will 95% be electric and the Model 3 is a good contender. Also people with Tesla chargers what are you gonna do if you ever change car brand?
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14-50. Costs $20 in parts and 30minutes to install. Takes 6 hours to charge from 20-80%. I only plug mine in once a week as it is.
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If I ever get a non-tesla I ll [buy an adapter](https: www.evseadapters.com products tesla-to-j1772-adapter ).
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Interesting how the Edmunds (USA) guy talks about how the Tesla Model 3 Y interiors don t compare to German interiors and the German reviewer talks about how much he likes the 3 Y interior. Very different perspectives. Kind of like grass is always greener. Both these videos were posted recently so kind of repost...but the contrast is interesting. Edmunds: https: youtu.be oXV6PJuU8EI German Review: https: youtu.be FKtN5rBiafA
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I got my Model 3 after owning an M3 for almost 5 years (and a 328i for 3 before that.) The Model 3 is the easier experience in nearly every way by far. Less maintenance easier to manage on the road less fiddling with buttons and settings etc. But that red leather interior on my F80 M3? That beautiful and great feeling shifter knob? The steering feel? So good. Everything was so good. It felt like the interior of a $68k car. My Model 3 does not. Oh well. Will I go back to it any time soon? No. The pluses outweigh the minuses. But if BMW ever makes a car with the overall experience of the Model 3 with their interior materials I m first in line.
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I like simple. If Tesla has Mercedes S-Class seats for entire lineup then it d be even better
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g84ov3
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Interesting how the Edmunds (USA) guy talks about how the Tesla Model 3 Y interiors don t compare to German interiors and the German reviewer talks about how much he likes the 3 Y interior. Very different perspectives. Kind of like grass is always greener. Both these videos were posted recently so kind of repost...but the contrast is interesting. Edmunds: https: youtu.be oXV6PJuU8EI German Review: https: youtu.be FKtN5rBiafA
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I got my Model 3 after owning an M3 for almost 5 years (and a 328i for 3 before that.) The Model 3 is the easier experience in nearly every way by far. Less maintenance easier to manage on the road less fiddling with buttons and settings etc. But that red leather interior on my F80 M3? That beautiful and great feeling shifter knob? The steering feel? So good. Everything was so good. It felt like the interior of a $68k car. My Model 3 does not. Oh well. Will I go back to it any time soon? No. The pluses outweigh the minuses. But if BMW ever makes a car with the overall experience of the Model 3 with their interior materials I m first in line.
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Have nothing to offer wrt the German luxury brands but I own a ‘16 civic and my dad has a model 3 that I get to drive while he s in Florida over the winter. For a few days after the switch each time I m blown away by the interior of the model 3 and then it dawns on me that it cost literally twice as much as the civic. To its credit that s about the value I d put it at compared to the civic. So anecdotally for folks coming from non-luxury cars the Model 3 interior is absolutely a winner.
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g84ov3
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Interesting how the Edmunds (USA) guy talks about how the Tesla Model 3 Y interiors don t compare to German interiors and the German reviewer talks about how much he likes the 3 Y interior. Very different perspectives. Kind of like grass is always greener. Both these videos were posted recently so kind of repost...but the contrast is interesting. Edmunds: https: youtu.be oXV6PJuU8EI German Review: https: youtu.be FKtN5rBiafA
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I got my Model 3 after owning an M3 for almost 5 years (and a 328i for 3 before that.) The Model 3 is the easier experience in nearly every way by far. Less maintenance easier to manage on the road less fiddling with buttons and settings etc. But that red leather interior on my F80 M3? That beautiful and great feeling shifter knob? The steering feel? So good. Everything was so good. It felt like the interior of a $68k car. My Model 3 does not. Oh well. Will I go back to it any time soon? No. The pluses outweigh the minuses. But if BMW ever makes a car with the overall experience of the Model 3 with their interior materials I m first in line.
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I have driven a model 3 several times and I work at Enterprise rent a car and have driven land rovers BMWs Audi s and can tell you I Do NOT understand why people think the model 3 does not a very good interior.. it s not as “loud” as other interiors but very much has the same luxury minimalist feel to me.
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Where do those without home wifi go to download updates? I live in an apartment complex with no access to WiFi I ve also tried using my phone as a hotspot but haven t had success with that. Are there any national chains that have free WiFi or do I need to drive to a service center to download updates? I m in Houston TX if that matters.
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phone tethering
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A friend s driveway?
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g872bz
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Where do those without home wifi go to download updates? I live in an apartment complex with no access to WiFi I ve also tried using my phone as a hotspot but haven t had success with that. Are there any national chains that have free WiFi or do I need to drive to a service center to download updates? I m in Houston TX if that matters.
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phone tethering
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Starbucks parking lot?
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Buyer beware: Why you shouldn t buy your Tesla from Carvana This is kind of a long story but I hope that my terrible Carvana experience will help some of you out. TL DR at bottom. & nbsp I started looking for a used Model S right before shelter-in-place lockdown hit in Texas in early March and due to the circumstances going with a reputable company who would deliver the car to me seemed logical. I had never used Carvana before and noticed that they charged slightly higher prices but assumed that it was due to how convenient their process was. I picked out a red 2013 Model S P85 that looked reasonable added it to my cart completed the insurance process and waited for them to call me. Within two days they had called me 5 or 6 times to verify insurance request pictures of my trade-in and other things. The day my delivery was supposed to take place I was supposed to receive a call confirming the delivery time and got nothing. Around the time my delivery should have taken place I received a phone call from an associate saying that during transport from the holding lot in Arizona the car s windshield had been smashed by a flying piece of road debris. I was irritated that I wasn t contacted when this happened but chalked the miscommunication up to the COVID-19 situation. I asked the representative what their procedure was and she told me that they would send it to Tesla for repair and I would be able to purchase it after the repairs had been completed. At this point I was disappointed but sort of shrugged it off as a shit happens kind of thing. I was happy to be getting a brand new windshield anyway. I continued on with getting my financing in order with Alliant Credit Union which I learned about from inquiries to Tesla on the used cars on their site. I can t say enough good things about Alliant in the nightmare that was this entire process they were quick to respond understanding and well-versed in Tesla financing. Great interest rates amazing staff super knowledgeable. & nbsp To continue -- I received an email from a Carvana representative confirming the damage to the windshield and assuring me that I would receive phone calls with repair progress. After this point it was total radio silence from Carvana for a week. I emailed back after a week to see how it was going only to be put on hold multiple times. After around an hour I learned that at some point a technician responsible for moving the Model S had lost both its keys and the representative I spoke to could not tell me whether the error was Carvana s or the Tesla Service Center s. She could not verify to me where the car actually was or who was responsible for the lost keys. I don t even know how this is possible. She told me that she was only reading notes that had been entered and they didn t specify where the car was. At this point I began keeping a log so I wouldn t get confused and to provide further clarity to representatives since I couldn t get ahold of the same person twice. (Every Carvana rep told me that they were not allowed to give out personal numbers.) I had no idea where the car actually even was or what was happening to it. Despite this Alliant had sent Carvana the check and I spent an entire day verifying with them and with FedEx that it was delivered. Despite requesting the check they then said that they couldn t take it because the car wasn t ready for sale and I had to have Alliant process a stop payment on it. & nbsp During my next who has my car and where are the keys conversation with Carvana (it s totally ridiculous that there was more than one of these) the representative convinced me to let it go and pick a different vehicle from their site. They were struggling with the repair process and emphasized that this sort of thing didn t usually happen to them and because of the COVID-19 situation I was understanding. So I went back to carvana.com and picked a different 2013 Model S a blue P85+ this time and while on the phone with the representative verified a delivery date. She thanked me for my patience and I thought the entire mess was over. I didn t hear anything from them in the few days leading up to delivery but since the car was undamaged I assumed everything was fine. The delivery window was 5-6 PM. At 6:05 PM I called Carvana had to wait on hold for almost an hour before someone was able to tell me that the car couldn t be delivered because the battery was dead and wouldn t charge. He assured me that someone had attempted to contact me prior to missing the delivery window but I had literally been sitting around waiting with my phone in my hand so that was definitely a lie. & nbsp At this point my husband (who I ll call B) got so fed up with the runaround that he googled the address of the inspection center where they told me it was being held drove there and spoke to a manager who allowed him to come back to look at the car. The manager emphasized that they were not customer-facing so customers were not allowed back to the lots but after telling him the entire story B s expressed doubts that the car actually even existed were apparently enough to let him see it. The manager told B that they attempted to jump start the car but through this conversation B learned that the technicians had only attempted to jumpstart the 12V battery for around 5 minutes. B suggested that they allow the 12V battery to charge for longer then attempt to charge the main battery pack explaining how the car cannot charge the MCU doesn t work with a dead 12V battery. B also suggested resetting the MCU via the scroll wheels on the steering wheel but the manager said he wasn t comfortable attempting that. During this visit B also witnessed that Carvana keeps the keys to all its Teslas in the same cardboard paper ream box which is likely how the keys to the red Model S were lost to begin with. (They unlock the Teslas by bringing the entire box around to each car and waiting for it to find its own key and auto-unlock. I wish I was making this up.) He assured B that they would allow the 12V to charge and attempt charging the main battery pack again over the weekend and would tell customer service to let us know the status. & nbsp The missed delivery and B s visit to the inspection center happened on a Friday. (I had to order a stop payment on ANOTHER check Alliant had FedExed to them.) On Saturday afternoon after calling Carvana I discovered that the inspection center hadn t been in contact with customer service. Additionally the rep I spoke to still only had notes about the original red Model S with the cracked windshield and lost keys despite my account showing purchase in progress of the dead-battery blue Model S. I relayed the entire story of both Model Ss as well as B s visit to the inspection center and that they were supposed to get in touch with them. The rep assured me he d sort it out and let me know. At this point I made an appointment to go look at a different blue Model S at a BMW dealership in Dallas. It was a P85+ in fantastic condition only 40K miles with an error message saying that acceleration had been reduced and may be restored on next drive. One of the dealership technicians was a Tesla enthusiast and she insisted that this problem was easily fixable by the Tesla Service Center which was literally two blocks away from them. I agreed to purchase this Model S (spoiler alert: which I have now and love) signed papers got in writing their agreement to take it to the Tesla Service Center and pay for the costs associated with resetting the MCU. I was able to add the vehicle to my Tesla account with the purchase paperwork and Tesla immediately contacted me updating me on the repair progress. & nbsp On the way home from the dealership the same day Carvana called me back with the information they d received from the inspection center with good news! The fix that B had suggested for the battery charging had worked and they could deliver it to me! I told them that I was on my way back from purchasing a different Model S and that I needed to cancel that order. The rep asked me why (really?!) and I told him that I knew it wasn t his fault but that the way that Carvana handled Tesla sales was a total mess and that I would not ever consider buying any car from them after this fiasco. The rep then told me that the only way to cancel my order was to go online and cancel it myself. So after the entire nightmare which included changing my financing and insurance multiple times I m a Tesla owner. But don t buy a Tesla from Carvana. & nbsp TL DR: Carvana has no idea how to handle Tesla sales repair storage or maintenance and will give you the run around. They have a huge selection of Teslas available because they can t get their shit together enough to actually sell them to you. You should go through Tesla or a traditional dealership. Or a private sale. Just someone who understands that Teslas have two batteries and that you can t just allow them to discharge while the car sits in an inspection lot. Edit: formatting.
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Congrats. By the third phone call you should have cancelled the whole thing and figured out carvana sucks.
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That bad. But taking the whole box of cards to each car is funny wtf are they thinking
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g90i8q
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Buyer beware: Why you shouldn t buy your Tesla from Carvana This is kind of a long story but I hope that my terrible Carvana experience will help some of you out. TL DR at bottom. & nbsp I started looking for a used Model S right before shelter-in-place lockdown hit in Texas in early March and due to the circumstances going with a reputable company who would deliver the car to me seemed logical. I had never used Carvana before and noticed that they charged slightly higher prices but assumed that it was due to how convenient their process was. I picked out a red 2013 Model S P85 that looked reasonable added it to my cart completed the insurance process and waited for them to call me. Within two days they had called me 5 or 6 times to verify insurance request pictures of my trade-in and other things. The day my delivery was supposed to take place I was supposed to receive a call confirming the delivery time and got nothing. Around the time my delivery should have taken place I received a phone call from an associate saying that during transport from the holding lot in Arizona the car s windshield had been smashed by a flying piece of road debris. I was irritated that I wasn t contacted when this happened but chalked the miscommunication up to the COVID-19 situation. I asked the representative what their procedure was and she told me that they would send it to Tesla for repair and I would be able to purchase it after the repairs had been completed. At this point I was disappointed but sort of shrugged it off as a shit happens kind of thing. I was happy to be getting a brand new windshield anyway. I continued on with getting my financing in order with Alliant Credit Union which I learned about from inquiries to Tesla on the used cars on their site. I can t say enough good things about Alliant in the nightmare that was this entire process they were quick to respond understanding and well-versed in Tesla financing. Great interest rates amazing staff super knowledgeable. & nbsp To continue -- I received an email from a Carvana representative confirming the damage to the windshield and assuring me that I would receive phone calls with repair progress. After this point it was total radio silence from Carvana for a week. I emailed back after a week to see how it was going only to be put on hold multiple times. After around an hour I learned that at some point a technician responsible for moving the Model S had lost both its keys and the representative I spoke to could not tell me whether the error was Carvana s or the Tesla Service Center s. She could not verify to me where the car actually was or who was responsible for the lost keys. I don t even know how this is possible. She told me that she was only reading notes that had been entered and they didn t specify where the car was. At this point I began keeping a log so I wouldn t get confused and to provide further clarity to representatives since I couldn t get ahold of the same person twice. (Every Carvana rep told me that they were not allowed to give out personal numbers.) I had no idea where the car actually even was or what was happening to it. Despite this Alliant had sent Carvana the check and I spent an entire day verifying with them and with FedEx that it was delivered. Despite requesting the check they then said that they couldn t take it because the car wasn t ready for sale and I had to have Alliant process a stop payment on it. & nbsp During my next who has my car and where are the keys conversation with Carvana (it s totally ridiculous that there was more than one of these) the representative convinced me to let it go and pick a different vehicle from their site. They were struggling with the repair process and emphasized that this sort of thing didn t usually happen to them and because of the COVID-19 situation I was understanding. So I went back to carvana.com and picked a different 2013 Model S a blue P85+ this time and while on the phone with the representative verified a delivery date. She thanked me for my patience and I thought the entire mess was over. I didn t hear anything from them in the few days leading up to delivery but since the car was undamaged I assumed everything was fine. The delivery window was 5-6 PM. At 6:05 PM I called Carvana had to wait on hold for almost an hour before someone was able to tell me that the car couldn t be delivered because the battery was dead and wouldn t charge. He assured me that someone had attempted to contact me prior to missing the delivery window but I had literally been sitting around waiting with my phone in my hand so that was definitely a lie. & nbsp At this point my husband (who I ll call B) got so fed up with the runaround that he googled the address of the inspection center where they told me it was being held drove there and spoke to a manager who allowed him to come back to look at the car. The manager emphasized that they were not customer-facing so customers were not allowed back to the lots but after telling him the entire story B s expressed doubts that the car actually even existed were apparently enough to let him see it. The manager told B that they attempted to jump start the car but through this conversation B learned that the technicians had only attempted to jumpstart the 12V battery for around 5 minutes. B suggested that they allow the 12V battery to charge for longer then attempt to charge the main battery pack explaining how the car cannot charge the MCU doesn t work with a dead 12V battery. B also suggested resetting the MCU via the scroll wheels on the steering wheel but the manager said he wasn t comfortable attempting that. During this visit B also witnessed that Carvana keeps the keys to all its Teslas in the same cardboard paper ream box which is likely how the keys to the red Model S were lost to begin with. (They unlock the Teslas by bringing the entire box around to each car and waiting for it to find its own key and auto-unlock. I wish I was making this up.) He assured B that they would allow the 12V to charge and attempt charging the main battery pack again over the weekend and would tell customer service to let us know the status. & nbsp The missed delivery and B s visit to the inspection center happened on a Friday. (I had to order a stop payment on ANOTHER check Alliant had FedExed to them.) On Saturday afternoon after calling Carvana I discovered that the inspection center hadn t been in contact with customer service. Additionally the rep I spoke to still only had notes about the original red Model S with the cracked windshield and lost keys despite my account showing purchase in progress of the dead-battery blue Model S. I relayed the entire story of both Model Ss as well as B s visit to the inspection center and that they were supposed to get in touch with them. The rep assured me he d sort it out and let me know. At this point I made an appointment to go look at a different blue Model S at a BMW dealership in Dallas. It was a P85+ in fantastic condition only 40K miles with an error message saying that acceleration had been reduced and may be restored on next drive. One of the dealership technicians was a Tesla enthusiast and she insisted that this problem was easily fixable by the Tesla Service Center which was literally two blocks away from them. I agreed to purchase this Model S (spoiler alert: which I have now and love) signed papers got in writing their agreement to take it to the Tesla Service Center and pay for the costs associated with resetting the MCU. I was able to add the vehicle to my Tesla account with the purchase paperwork and Tesla immediately contacted me updating me on the repair progress. & nbsp On the way home from the dealership the same day Carvana called me back with the information they d received from the inspection center with good news! The fix that B had suggested for the battery charging had worked and they could deliver it to me! I told them that I was on my way back from purchasing a different Model S and that I needed to cancel that order. The rep asked me why (really?!) and I told him that I knew it wasn t his fault but that the way that Carvana handled Tesla sales was a total mess and that I would not ever consider buying any car from them after this fiasco. The rep then told me that the only way to cancel my order was to go online and cancel it myself. So after the entire nightmare which included changing my financing and insurance multiple times I m a Tesla owner. But don t buy a Tesla from Carvana. & nbsp TL DR: Carvana has no idea how to handle Tesla sales repair storage or maintenance and will give you the run around. They have a huge selection of Teslas available because they can t get their shit together enough to actually sell them to you. You should go through Tesla or a traditional dealership. Or a private sale. Just someone who understands that Teslas have two batteries and that you can t just allow them to discharge while the car sits in an inspection lot. Edit: formatting.
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CarMax is the only one of these that I ll actually ever consider because they do have enough stores and experience to actually move a car properly facilitate pickup and their warranty and return policy is airtight.
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Sorry about your experience. That s a pretty rough situation to forgive. I personally had a Tesla reserved with them and a week after pictures were to be posted they never showed up. I canceled immediately and haven t looked back. Ended up buying from someone else.
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Stop light control is MAGICAL on yellow traffic lights. Overall I m impressed with 2020.12.6 but it is especially mind blowing when you confirm a green light that subsequently changes to yellow. I had this happen twice back to back and on the first we stopped (good call) and on the second we went through (good call). It took distance and speed into consideration. As a bonus I had a third that was one of those marginal should I stop or should I go . The car did a magical thing that might be a factor of the machine learning...it initially slowed (by like 1 mph) but then it was like nope I ve got this and then resumed speed (again only 1 mph) and went through the intersection. I saw the light turn red immediately as it went out of view of the windshield. I wonder if this last case of it being indecisive was a result of the human training data being somewhat indecisive and the car is imitating the human behavior of making your initial decision to stop and then changing your mind when you realize you have more speed than you thought that you had? Overall I m mega impressed and once we get left right turns at intersections we will be truly on the path to FSD.
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Except the flashing yellow emergency signals outside of a fire station by me. The car gets confused as fuck and tries to stop.
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The interesting thing is this relies on the timing of the yellow to be somewhat constant. Remember all those scandals where yellow lights were reduced to some illegally short interval so cities could increase revenue from red light camera tickets? Let s hope Tesla gave a decent margin and save the footage for fighting bogus violations.
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AutoPilot s visual Stop Control is already quite impressive and learning fast As FSD owners get the new software and people are interested in the new feature I ve taken some pictures to document the current behavior of the initial public release so hopefully people can understand what it s thinking and be safe on city streets before it “controls more naturally.” Overall AutoPilot is doing quite a bit primarily with vision and uploading a lot of driving data from the fleet to help reach the final step of “feature complete.” [View examples of visual-only stopping](https: preview.redd.it z8maniwp4ev41.jpg?width=2125& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=3f91773e40e1bad85dc1db3c37384e52d6f601b4) The visual system detects both traffic controls and stop lines to decide when and where to stop the car. Traffic controls includes traffic lights stop signs and road markings and stop lines can be painted or inferred from an intersection. The examples above show AutoPilot stopping for unmapped features including “STOP” on the ground in a parking lot without signs a temporary stop sign in a construction area and road painting that controls a single direction of traffic e.g. roundabouts. [View map-based stopping messages](https: preview.redd.it jkzjwfmt4ev41.jpg?width=592& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=ff396bbe1a2e22a62e30d8f9cd5f49a5f0e8ef57) AutoPilot also makes use of traditional navigation maps with approximate data similar to OpenStreetMap with a point that can indicate an intersection has a traffic light stop sign and lines for roads that can indicate a 3-way T-junction where the minor road yields. This is useful for situations where an intersection is hidden from view perhaps behind a curve so AutoPilot starts showing these indicators 600 feet in advance to avoid stopping suddenly when the visual system finally sees the intersection. [View various intersection types and distances](https: preview.redd.it xwgrx9px4ev41.jpg?width=1185& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=8ba1ec8341204fbb29b4672d6978e5ba1fa5a28f) As AutoPilot approaches an intersection it ll display the distance to the type of intersection. For traffic lights it includes the color of the signal it believes is relevant for your lane. In the screenshots above all the messages show that the car is stopping and for green lights the driver can confirm to keep going through and the message goes away. The car is also smart in deciding when to continue through a yellow light or stopping at a red light even after confirming to continue. [View examples of AutoPilot getting confused](https: preview.redd.it v97ebbg25ev41.jpg?width=1890& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=20774dddbf90e77072aef8d93063607c96c03596) This early iteration of Stop Control can get confused easily so be careful. The top left example indicates AutoPilot doesn t know how to continue perhaps it doesn t understand the lines across the street or believes it would go into oncoming traffic. The bottom left example shows the visualization highlighting traffic signals and clearly it was confused as it thought the green left turn and a red straight signals were for me so be extra careful as AutoPilot might have continued straight thinking it had a green light. The right example shows AutoPilot detecting what it believes are inactive traffic lights and decides to slow down and these types of false positives for both traffic controls and stop lines can result in sudden deceleration so if you slightly press on the accelerator ahead of time you can minimize the jerking. [View Birds-Eye View showing dividers and traffic flow direction](https: preview.redd.it pe9jic285ev41.jpg?width=1968& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=89fa11793eb6d57bf56d056aeb6dc8ba8c46b138) Fortunately the [AutoPilot rewrite](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments f1dlqh autopilot_rewrite_with_3d_labeling_is_only ) should help especially in the first case where the new “birds-eye view network” fuses multiple cameras and outputs a unified understanding of objects lines and edges. (This was presented at ScaledML “Andrej Karpathy - AI for Full-Self Driving.”) It also understands logical dividers like double yellow lines and physical curbs that separate traffic flow directions so “going straight” should drive through intersections towards lanes that are of the expected direction fixing the “confused heading into oncoming traffic” problem. As Tesla collects driving data with the new feature training data can be generated to fix the other issues based on the driver confirming or not confirming to continue. For the confused traffic lights by not continuing it should learn that the green light wasn t for me while the 3 red lights were. Similarly for false positives that the driver continued through without stopping it should learn when to ignore confusing traffic controls. With a fleet of nearly 1 million cars Tesla should be able to find all sorts of strange corner cases and collect enough samples to make the feature natural instead of conservative. And with a strong understanding of intersections the next feature of navigating through intersections (instead of only going straight) shouldn t be too far off.
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Something that seriously impressed me when I was using Stop Control for the first time this morning was that it will detect when the color of a stoplight changes *after* you ve overridden the stopping procedure. I was approaching a green light and the car said Slowing for stoplight in 600 ft so I hit the gear stalk to override. But then the light turned yellow right after that. The car detected that and *restarted the stopping procedure*. It then came to a smooth stop at the intersection with the newly red light.
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How did you embed the images into the post?
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AutoPilot s visual Stop Control is already quite impressive and learning fast As FSD owners get the new software and people are interested in the new feature I ve taken some pictures to document the current behavior of the initial public release so hopefully people can understand what it s thinking and be safe on city streets before it “controls more naturally.” Overall AutoPilot is doing quite a bit primarily with vision and uploading a lot of driving data from the fleet to help reach the final step of “feature complete.” [View examples of visual-only stopping](https: preview.redd.it z8maniwp4ev41.jpg?width=2125& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=3f91773e40e1bad85dc1db3c37384e52d6f601b4) The visual system detects both traffic controls and stop lines to decide when and where to stop the car. Traffic controls includes traffic lights stop signs and road markings and stop lines can be painted or inferred from an intersection. The examples above show AutoPilot stopping for unmapped features including “STOP” on the ground in a parking lot without signs a temporary stop sign in a construction area and road painting that controls a single direction of traffic e.g. roundabouts. [View map-based stopping messages](https: preview.redd.it jkzjwfmt4ev41.jpg?width=592& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=ff396bbe1a2e22a62e30d8f9cd5f49a5f0e8ef57) AutoPilot also makes use of traditional navigation maps with approximate data similar to OpenStreetMap with a point that can indicate an intersection has a traffic light stop sign and lines for roads that can indicate a 3-way T-junction where the minor road yields. This is useful for situations where an intersection is hidden from view perhaps behind a curve so AutoPilot starts showing these indicators 600 feet in advance to avoid stopping suddenly when the visual system finally sees the intersection. [View various intersection types and distances](https: preview.redd.it xwgrx9px4ev41.jpg?width=1185& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=8ba1ec8341204fbb29b4672d6978e5ba1fa5a28f) As AutoPilot approaches an intersection it ll display the distance to the type of intersection. For traffic lights it includes the color of the signal it believes is relevant for your lane. In the screenshots above all the messages show that the car is stopping and for green lights the driver can confirm to keep going through and the message goes away. The car is also smart in deciding when to continue through a yellow light or stopping at a red light even after confirming to continue. [View examples of AutoPilot getting confused](https: preview.redd.it v97ebbg25ev41.jpg?width=1890& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=20774dddbf90e77072aef8d93063607c96c03596) This early iteration of Stop Control can get confused easily so be careful. The top left example indicates AutoPilot doesn t know how to continue perhaps it doesn t understand the lines across the street or believes it would go into oncoming traffic. The bottom left example shows the visualization highlighting traffic signals and clearly it was confused as it thought the green left turn and a red straight signals were for me so be extra careful as AutoPilot might have continued straight thinking it had a green light. The right example shows AutoPilot detecting what it believes are inactive traffic lights and decides to slow down and these types of false positives for both traffic controls and stop lines can result in sudden deceleration so if you slightly press on the accelerator ahead of time you can minimize the jerking. [View Birds-Eye View showing dividers and traffic flow direction](https: preview.redd.it pe9jic285ev41.jpg?width=1968& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=89fa11793eb6d57bf56d056aeb6dc8ba8c46b138) Fortunately the [AutoPilot rewrite](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments f1dlqh autopilot_rewrite_with_3d_labeling_is_only ) should help especially in the first case where the new “birds-eye view network” fuses multiple cameras and outputs a unified understanding of objects lines and edges. (This was presented at ScaledML “Andrej Karpathy - AI for Full-Self Driving.”) It also understands logical dividers like double yellow lines and physical curbs that separate traffic flow directions so “going straight” should drive through intersections towards lanes that are of the expected direction fixing the “confused heading into oncoming traffic” problem. As Tesla collects driving data with the new feature training data can be generated to fix the other issues based on the driver confirming or not confirming to continue. For the confused traffic lights by not continuing it should learn that the green light wasn t for me while the 3 red lights were. Similarly for false positives that the driver continued through without stopping it should learn when to ignore confusing traffic controls. With a fleet of nearly 1 million cars Tesla should be able to find all sorts of strange corner cases and collect enough samples to make the feature natural instead of conservative. And with a strong understanding of intersections the next feature of navigating through intersections (instead of only going straight) shouldn t be too far off.
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Something that seriously impressed me when I was using Stop Control for the first time this morning was that it will detect when the color of a stoplight changes *after* you ve overridden the stopping procedure. I was approaching a green light and the car said Slowing for stoplight in 600 ft so I hit the gear stalk to override. But then the light turned yellow right after that. The car detected that and *restarted the stopping procedure*. It then came to a smooth stop at the intersection with the newly red light.
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Great write up. Thank you for sharing.
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g9ce1j
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How to drive with Stop at traffic light & stop signs enabled The update is magical when you first get it. Then you get annoyed Then you realize a few things. So here s a guide: If on auto steer when approaching a stop sign: Going straight: let it stop tap the stalk down and it s magical. Life is good. Best use case possible. Turning: let it stop tap the stalk up to turn off autopilot so you don t fight with your steering wheel to disengage autopilot to turn. Then put it back on after the turn. When approaching a red light: If first let car stop on the line. It s magical. When light turns green use accelerator to go or you will crawl out like your grandma driving a Prius. If behind another car it will stop like before but tap the auto pilot stalk down when it s time to go. When approaching a green light: Tap the auto pilot stalk down to keep going. You have to be ready for this at every light. Remember you are training the fleet so don t get annoyed. Do your part and keep training. When approaching a flashing yellow light (like a a fire station): Use the accelerator to keep going. If you use the auto pilot stalk it will keep going until the next flash then you have to do it again and again and again. You won t win car will slow down so just push past it with the pedal. Hope this helps.
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Watch out for RR crossings my car sees them as traffic signals.
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Good tips!
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g9ce1j
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How to drive with Stop at traffic light & stop signs enabled The update is magical when you first get it. Then you get annoyed Then you realize a few things. So here s a guide: If on auto steer when approaching a stop sign: Going straight: let it stop tap the stalk down and it s magical. Life is good. Best use case possible. Turning: let it stop tap the stalk up to turn off autopilot so you don t fight with your steering wheel to disengage autopilot to turn. Then put it back on after the turn. When approaching a red light: If first let car stop on the line. It s magical. When light turns green use accelerator to go or you will crawl out like your grandma driving a Prius. If behind another car it will stop like before but tap the auto pilot stalk down when it s time to go. When approaching a green light: Tap the auto pilot stalk down to keep going. You have to be ready for this at every light. Remember you are training the fleet so don t get annoyed. Do your part and keep training. When approaching a flashing yellow light (like a a fire station): Use the accelerator to keep going. If you use the auto pilot stalk it will keep going until the next flash then you have to do it again and again and again. You won t win car will slow down so just push past it with the pedal. Hope this helps.
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Watch out for RR crossings my car sees them as traffic signals.
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Helpful info! Thank you!
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g9ce1j
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How to drive with Stop at traffic light & stop signs enabled The update is magical when you first get it. Then you get annoyed Then you realize a few things. So here s a guide: If on auto steer when approaching a stop sign: Going straight: let it stop tap the stalk down and it s magical. Life is good. Best use case possible. Turning: let it stop tap the stalk up to turn off autopilot so you don t fight with your steering wheel to disengage autopilot to turn. Then put it back on after the turn. When approaching a red light: If first let car stop on the line. It s magical. When light turns green use accelerator to go or you will crawl out like your grandma driving a Prius. If behind another car it will stop like before but tap the auto pilot stalk down when it s time to go. When approaching a green light: Tap the auto pilot stalk down to keep going. You have to be ready for this at every light. Remember you are training the fleet so don t get annoyed. Do your part and keep training. When approaching a flashing yellow light (like a a fire station): Use the accelerator to keep going. If you use the auto pilot stalk it will keep going until the next flash then you have to do it again and again and again. You won t win car will slow down so just push past it with the pedal. Hope this helps.
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Watch out for RR crossings my car sees them as traffic signals.
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Good stuff! Yeah don t get annoyed the more we confirm the more data they get.
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g9hawj
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Tesla has apparently hidden a pay as you go FSD option in the source code but hasn t turned it on yet This would be great would definitely make it a little easier to afford. I wonder if you could only pay for the months you would need use it like on a roadtrip. [https: driveteslacanada.ca news tesla-has-hidden-pay-as-you-go-fsd-subscription-plan-in-source-code ](https: driveteslacanada.ca news tesla-has-hidden-pay-as-you-go-fsd-subscription-plan-in-source-code )
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I like this as an OPTION. I would hate it if they removed full FSD and completely changed to a subscription model.
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Is it a rent to own scenario? If so I love that idea.
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g9hawj
| 296 |
Tesla has apparently hidden a pay as you go FSD option in the source code but hasn t turned it on yet This would be great would definitely make it a little easier to afford. I wonder if you could only pay for the months you would need use it like on a roadtrip. [https: driveteslacanada.ca news tesla-has-hidden-pay-as-you-go-fsd-subscription-plan-in-source-code ](https: driveteslacanada.ca news tesla-has-hidden-pay-as-you-go-fsd-subscription-plan-in-source-code )
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I like this as an OPTION. I would hate it if they removed full FSD and completely changed to a subscription model.
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imo i hate this idea of pay as you go or even pay as a per month this will suck.
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g9hawj
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Tesla has apparently hidden a pay as you go FSD option in the source code but hasn t turned it on yet This would be great would definitely make it a little easier to afford. I wonder if you could only pay for the months you would need use it like on a roadtrip. [https: driveteslacanada.ca news tesla-has-hidden-pay-as-you-go-fsd-subscription-plan-in-source-code ](https: driveteslacanada.ca news tesla-has-hidden-pay-as-you-go-fsd-subscription-plan-in-source-code )
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I like this as an OPTION. I would hate it if they removed full FSD and completely changed to a subscription model.
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I definitely cannot justify fsd but paying it for some holidays or long trips would be nice.
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g9sg06
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FSD Feature List Updated Previously titled Automatic driving on city streets now reads as Autosteer on city streets while the traffic lights and stop signs feature was moved up as an available feature since entering beta. https: preview.redd.it tkm5kbs4plv41.png?width=851& format=png& auto=webp& s=564871b03cca7cb89238977dbfd0057c915df1ff
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I think this means: not able to take turns in city streets?
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You still have to confirm a lane change with NoA. I can t imagine autosteer on city streets being an enjoyable experience.
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g9sg06
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FSD Feature List Updated Previously titled Automatic driving on city streets now reads as Autosteer on city streets while the traffic lights and stop signs feature was moved up as an available feature since entering beta. https: preview.redd.it tkm5kbs4plv41.png?width=851& format=png& auto=webp& s=564871b03cca7cb89238977dbfd0057c915df1ff
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Maybe this is stupid but to me words should mean what they say. Full Self Driving should mean what the words say. Not partial self driving not assisted driving and not pieces of self driving. If it can t drive without human assistance and intervention it isn t self driving much less full self driving which implies no human assistance. Maybe they should call it partial self driving or assisted driving. Let s not redefine the English language and the meanings of words.
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You still have to confirm a lane change with NoA. I can t imagine autosteer on city streets being an enjoyable experience.
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g9sg06
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FSD Feature List Updated Previously titled Automatic driving on city streets now reads as Autosteer on city streets while the traffic lights and stop signs feature was moved up as an available feature since entering beta. https: preview.redd.it tkm5kbs4plv41.png?width=851& format=png& auto=webp& s=564871b03cca7cb89238977dbfd0057c915df1ff
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Maybe this is stupid but to me words should mean what they say. Full Self Driving should mean what the words say. Not partial self driving not assisted driving and not pieces of self driving. If it can t drive without human assistance and intervention it isn t self driving much less full self driving which implies no human assistance. Maybe they should call it partial self driving or assisted driving. Let s not redefine the English language and the meanings of words.
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Only the Model Y says Coming later this year . All other cars the same page just says Upcoming instead.
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