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hitdfu
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Chime on Green I think it would be a very useful option to have the car chime when the light turns green when stopped at an intersection with no lead car. It seems like at least once a month I m stopped looking to the left to see when it s safe to right on red and only notice the light has turned green a good few seconds after.
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Reminds me of a joke. If light travels faster than sound then why do I hear the BMW driver behind me honking before I see the light turning green?
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Or stop being distracted?
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hjkqmw
| 140 |
First emissions test today So I tried to renew my plates today. It wouldn t let me do to required emissions test. Plates expire in 15 days. You can renew them online 14 or more days in advance. This seemed insane to me as my previous vehicle was a diesel car. It has a life time exemption due to its clean diesel technology . I called the emissions testing place to see if this was a mistake. Nope. Have to go get tested. Well it took awhile to get through. Only one employee can do electric emissions. Was mostly sitting there waiting for him to come out taking the form to his office and then waiting for him to come back out. I did pass. They didn t really check anything at all that I could tell. Never touched the car. Have to go back and do it again in 2022. You don t have to test cars by me for the first time until they are 4 years old. This is first year I needed to due to that. Just a heads up for anyone in emissions areas you may still need to get tested. Don t assume you won t need to just because you re car has no emissions. Edit: location Lake county Indiana.
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Your government is full of idiots. Granted most governments are.
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This isn t a joke? Are you saying next year I have to get my zero emission 2017 ModelX emission tested? Edit: OP is not in California: https: www.dmv.ca.gov portal vehicle-registration smog-inspections
| 190 | 2 | 7,207 |
hjkqmw
| 140 |
First emissions test today So I tried to renew my plates today. It wouldn t let me do to required emissions test. Plates expire in 15 days. You can renew them online 14 or more days in advance. This seemed insane to me as my previous vehicle was a diesel car. It has a life time exemption due to its clean diesel technology . I called the emissions testing place to see if this was a mistake. Nope. Have to go get tested. Well it took awhile to get through. Only one employee can do electric emissions. Was mostly sitting there waiting for him to come out taking the form to his office and then waiting for him to come back out. I did pass. They didn t really check anything at all that I could tell. Never touched the car. Have to go back and do it again in 2022. You don t have to test cars by me for the first time until they are 4 years old. This is first year I needed to due to that. Just a heads up for anyone in emissions areas you may still need to get tested. Don t assume you won t need to just because you re car has no emissions. Edit: location Lake county Indiana.
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Your government is full of idiots. Granted most governments are.
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When bureaucracy fails.
| 190 | 10 | 7,208 |
hjkqmw
| 140 |
First emissions test today So I tried to renew my plates today. It wouldn t let me do to required emissions test. Plates expire in 15 days. You can renew them online 14 or more days in advance. This seemed insane to me as my previous vehicle was a diesel car. It has a life time exemption due to its clean diesel technology . I called the emissions testing place to see if this was a mistake. Nope. Have to go get tested. Well it took awhile to get through. Only one employee can do electric emissions. Was mostly sitting there waiting for him to come out taking the form to his office and then waiting for him to come back out. I did pass. They didn t really check anything at all that I could tell. Never touched the car. Have to go back and do it again in 2022. You don t have to test cars by me for the first time until they are 4 years old. This is first year I needed to due to that. Just a heads up for anyone in emissions areas you may still need to get tested. Don t assume you won t need to just because you re car has no emissions. Edit: location Lake county Indiana.
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Your government is full of idiots. Granted most governments are.
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What state are you in? And what kind of emissions did they specifically look for? Brake & Tire particulates?
| 190 | 12 | 7,209 |
hjq9nw
| 140 |
+5 mph setting coming back soon for 🛑 + 🚦 See title ^ + Summon bug on first initiation getting fixed soon Yay 5 mph! 😝
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What s up with the emojis? And is there any source?
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Are we talking next major update? A couple weeks away?
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hjq9nw
| 140 |
+5 mph setting coming back soon for 🛑 + 🚦 See title ^ + Summon bug on first initiation getting fixed soon Yay 5 mph! 😝
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Perfect. Then I (and most other owners I d imagine) will leave it on all the time. I turned it off because I kept holding up traffic going the speed limit. Hopefully that ll increase the speed of data generation for the AP team.
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Are we talking next major update? A couple weeks away?
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hjq9nw
| 140 |
+5 mph setting coming back soon for 🛑 + 🚦 See title ^ + Summon bug on first initiation getting fixed soon Yay 5 mph! 😝
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It s actually a big deal because it helps keep up with the car in front of you so it can go on green.
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Are we talking next major update? A couple weeks away?
| 40 | 2 | 7,212 |
hk3g72
| 243 |
In 30 years there will be people who have never ridden in an ICE. We just got our Y. Never the same after. It struck me today I never rode in a horse drawn buggy. I was born just over 50 years after cars became dominant in 1915. My great grandchildren may be much the same. They might be even fearful of having explosive fluids with you or why it has to make noise.
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Today we marvel about how in the past people were allowed to smoke everywhere even in airplanes. I tell this to my teenagers and they can hardly believe it. And it does seem unbelievable today. I think 30 years from now people will find it equally unbelievable that we used to burn gasoline in cars and just spew that shit into the same air we breathe.
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I ve ridden in a buggy in one of those historical towns. It sucked.
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hk3g72
| 243 |
In 30 years there will be people who have never ridden in an ICE. We just got our Y. Never the same after. It struck me today I never rode in a horse drawn buggy. I was born just over 50 years after cars became dominant in 1915. My great grandchildren may be much the same. They might be even fearful of having explosive fluids with you or why it has to make noise.
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Today we marvel about how in the past people were allowed to smoke everywhere even in airplanes. I tell this to my teenagers and they can hardly believe it. And it does seem unbelievable today. I think 30 years from now people will find it equally unbelievable that we used to burn gasoline in cars and just spew that shit into the same air we breathe.
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**The EV generation test driving a petrol car** https: youtu.be yoZh6uYyhJI Unfortunately no english subtitles you may try to first select greek subs and then go to the CC menu second time and select autotranslate to english. Similar but 100% text: Test drive of a petrol car https: teslaclubsweden.se test-drive-of-a-petrol-car
| 30 | 2 | 7,214 |
hk3g72
| 243 |
In 30 years there will be people who have never ridden in an ICE. We just got our Y. Never the same after. It struck me today I never rode in a horse drawn buggy. I was born just over 50 years after cars became dominant in 1915. My great grandchildren may be much the same. They might be even fearful of having explosive fluids with you or why it has to make noise.
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Today we marvel about how in the past people were allowed to smoke everywhere even in airplanes. I tell this to my teenagers and they can hardly believe it. And it does seem unbelievable today. I think 30 years from now people will find it equally unbelievable that we used to burn gasoline in cars and just spew that shit into the same air we breathe.
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Even after most consumer cars have switched to EVs I imagine most service vehicles (fire trucks ambulances etc) will remain ICE. They can be slowly updated too but will have to be proven 100% reliable as the battery died or other issues will be unacceptable excuses as to why someone lost their life. Hopefully in the future Tesla sells their battery tech to other companies or offers a skateboard product which is a basic frame+battery and supporting electronics so that other companies can build new reliable service EVs.
| 30 | 3 | 7,215 |
hk96ic
| 190 |
Drove a 2019 Tesla S P 100D today for the first time I used to work at a car dealership but just quit. I was picking up some of my things and also meeting my last customer. This was a customer I had been working for like 4 months so although I quit I was going to sell a damn car to this guy Anyways this guys super cool. He s like an old rich hippie but a millionaire. Basically how I wanna be in 20 years. Moral of the story he impulse bought this Tesla without telling his wife now she s pissed because they re having another baby and they don t wanna put the baby in the Tesla. So we re testing a Ford explorer ST. Just shooting the shit on a test drive. Then he brings up his trade. This is my first time hearing about the Tesla too. I m stoked. I tell him I ve never even sat in a Tesla but they re sick. He then asks so you wanna take it for a spin when we get back?! I m like fuck yeah let s go. Then we get back... And he hands me the fucking keys! I thought he meant like he d drive I d just ride. But no. So I m sitting there. My dumbass can t even figure out how to open the door. Like I said never even sat in a Tesla. So I hop in this bitch and start it up. Jesus Christ the leather seats are super comfortable. Idk what they use but they re more comfortable than any leather seats across any other manufacturers. They re soft smooth leather with almost pillow like stuffing. They re mad comfy. I start it up and everything comes to life and it s just so stylish. Everything s white and black and feels so stylish and futuristic. I mean it s a nice ass car. They re not using cheap ass mass produced Chinese plastic trim. I mean EVERYTHING in the car **feels** nice as fuck. It feels like you re sitting in a space ship. Or just walked into an apple store. Or like you re inside if a penguin. Everything s black and white and the lines are so futuristic and smooth and minimalist. It s such a clean sharp looking vehicle inside and out. So I m driving this $130k Tesla down the busiest road in town and he reaches over and puts it in autopilot. He says take your hands off the wheel I m like what the fuck dude....okay and it drives itself. A car swerves in front of us and it adjusted. It keeps itself in the lane. It stops at a stoplight. He says on the way to work I m mostly just on autopilot playing on my phone I m like what the fuck but now I understand. Then he tells me stop driving like a grandma this things got like 800lb ft of torque all available instantaneously . I m like sure dude I ll gun it All you hear is whiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrr the electric motor moaning. My head slams against the headrest. I seriously start to get light headed tunnel vision and my stomach does a flip. I don t know how many Gs this thing pulls but it feels like way more than any roller coaster I ve ever been on... We get 0-60 in what feels like 0 seconds. It s fucking ridiculous. Probably realistically like 2.5ish seconds I think it is. This shits dangerous. Seriously. It was almost uncomfortable. The guy was just laughing at me the whole time and I had a grin ear to ear and was literally just like what the fuck the whole time. We finally got back and I m just grinning the whole time. Customer is super cool he comes in and signs everything right away for the switch to the Explorer ST. He walked out with a $24 000 check. We fucking paid him $24 000 for the ST since he bought his Tesla in cash. Coolest day selling cars by far. Glad I m gone though because I know we re gonna have so many idiots coming in wanting to test drive the Tesla Also I ve been in the market for a new car but today I learned there is such a thing as too fast. I d crash a Tesla in a heartbeat if I ever owned one. I think I m gonna go with like a hot hatch or something with a small turbo now because I don t need a muscle drag supercharged car. It was seriously scary how fast that thing accelerated. Super fucking cool vehicle though all in all and most epic day of work ever. Thanks for listening to my Ted talk but for real today just absolutely blew my fucking mind.
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I mostly love this story but > on the way to work I m mostly just on autopilot playing on my phone Don t do this. Watch the road. You can almost zone out and passively monitor but you can t actively focus on something else. AP will work perfectly up until the point it doesn t and you need to exercise human control.
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You should try out the Performance 3 or Y. Cheaper than the one you drove and not as violent acceleration.
| 40 | 3 | 7,216 |
hk96ic
| 190 |
Drove a 2019 Tesla S P 100D today for the first time I used to work at a car dealership but just quit. I was picking up some of my things and also meeting my last customer. This was a customer I had been working for like 4 months so although I quit I was going to sell a damn car to this guy Anyways this guys super cool. He s like an old rich hippie but a millionaire. Basically how I wanna be in 20 years. Moral of the story he impulse bought this Tesla without telling his wife now she s pissed because they re having another baby and they don t wanna put the baby in the Tesla. So we re testing a Ford explorer ST. Just shooting the shit on a test drive. Then he brings up his trade. This is my first time hearing about the Tesla too. I m stoked. I tell him I ve never even sat in a Tesla but they re sick. He then asks so you wanna take it for a spin when we get back?! I m like fuck yeah let s go. Then we get back... And he hands me the fucking keys! I thought he meant like he d drive I d just ride. But no. So I m sitting there. My dumbass can t even figure out how to open the door. Like I said never even sat in a Tesla. So I hop in this bitch and start it up. Jesus Christ the leather seats are super comfortable. Idk what they use but they re more comfortable than any leather seats across any other manufacturers. They re soft smooth leather with almost pillow like stuffing. They re mad comfy. I start it up and everything comes to life and it s just so stylish. Everything s white and black and feels so stylish and futuristic. I mean it s a nice ass car. They re not using cheap ass mass produced Chinese plastic trim. I mean EVERYTHING in the car **feels** nice as fuck. It feels like you re sitting in a space ship. Or just walked into an apple store. Or like you re inside if a penguin. Everything s black and white and the lines are so futuristic and smooth and minimalist. It s such a clean sharp looking vehicle inside and out. So I m driving this $130k Tesla down the busiest road in town and he reaches over and puts it in autopilot. He says take your hands off the wheel I m like what the fuck dude....okay and it drives itself. A car swerves in front of us and it adjusted. It keeps itself in the lane. It stops at a stoplight. He says on the way to work I m mostly just on autopilot playing on my phone I m like what the fuck but now I understand. Then he tells me stop driving like a grandma this things got like 800lb ft of torque all available instantaneously . I m like sure dude I ll gun it All you hear is whiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrr the electric motor moaning. My head slams against the headrest. I seriously start to get light headed tunnel vision and my stomach does a flip. I don t know how many Gs this thing pulls but it feels like way more than any roller coaster I ve ever been on... We get 0-60 in what feels like 0 seconds. It s fucking ridiculous. Probably realistically like 2.5ish seconds I think it is. This shits dangerous. Seriously. It was almost uncomfortable. The guy was just laughing at me the whole time and I had a grin ear to ear and was literally just like what the fuck the whole time. We finally got back and I m just grinning the whole time. Customer is super cool he comes in and signs everything right away for the switch to the Explorer ST. He walked out with a $24 000 check. We fucking paid him $24 000 for the ST since he bought his Tesla in cash. Coolest day selling cars by far. Glad I m gone though because I know we re gonna have so many idiots coming in wanting to test drive the Tesla Also I ve been in the market for a new car but today I learned there is such a thing as too fast. I d crash a Tesla in a heartbeat if I ever owned one. I think I m gonna go with like a hot hatch or something with a small turbo now because I don t need a muscle drag supercharged car. It was seriously scary how fast that thing accelerated. Super fucking cool vehicle though all in all and most epic day of work ever. Thanks for listening to my Ted talk but for real today just absolutely blew my fucking mind.
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I mostly love this story but > on the way to work I m mostly just on autopilot playing on my phone Don t do this. Watch the road. You can almost zone out and passively monitor but you can t actively focus on something else. AP will work perfectly up until the point it doesn t and you need to exercise human control.
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> Or like you re inside of a penguin
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hk96ic
| 190 |
Drove a 2019 Tesla S P 100D today for the first time I used to work at a car dealership but just quit. I was picking up some of my things and also meeting my last customer. This was a customer I had been working for like 4 months so although I quit I was going to sell a damn car to this guy Anyways this guys super cool. He s like an old rich hippie but a millionaire. Basically how I wanna be in 20 years. Moral of the story he impulse bought this Tesla without telling his wife now she s pissed because they re having another baby and they don t wanna put the baby in the Tesla. So we re testing a Ford explorer ST. Just shooting the shit on a test drive. Then he brings up his trade. This is my first time hearing about the Tesla too. I m stoked. I tell him I ve never even sat in a Tesla but they re sick. He then asks so you wanna take it for a spin when we get back?! I m like fuck yeah let s go. Then we get back... And he hands me the fucking keys! I thought he meant like he d drive I d just ride. But no. So I m sitting there. My dumbass can t even figure out how to open the door. Like I said never even sat in a Tesla. So I hop in this bitch and start it up. Jesus Christ the leather seats are super comfortable. Idk what they use but they re more comfortable than any leather seats across any other manufacturers. They re soft smooth leather with almost pillow like stuffing. They re mad comfy. I start it up and everything comes to life and it s just so stylish. Everything s white and black and feels so stylish and futuristic. I mean it s a nice ass car. They re not using cheap ass mass produced Chinese plastic trim. I mean EVERYTHING in the car **feels** nice as fuck. It feels like you re sitting in a space ship. Or just walked into an apple store. Or like you re inside if a penguin. Everything s black and white and the lines are so futuristic and smooth and minimalist. It s such a clean sharp looking vehicle inside and out. So I m driving this $130k Tesla down the busiest road in town and he reaches over and puts it in autopilot. He says take your hands off the wheel I m like what the fuck dude....okay and it drives itself. A car swerves in front of us and it adjusted. It keeps itself in the lane. It stops at a stoplight. He says on the way to work I m mostly just on autopilot playing on my phone I m like what the fuck but now I understand. Then he tells me stop driving like a grandma this things got like 800lb ft of torque all available instantaneously . I m like sure dude I ll gun it All you hear is whiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrr the electric motor moaning. My head slams against the headrest. I seriously start to get light headed tunnel vision and my stomach does a flip. I don t know how many Gs this thing pulls but it feels like way more than any roller coaster I ve ever been on... We get 0-60 in what feels like 0 seconds. It s fucking ridiculous. Probably realistically like 2.5ish seconds I think it is. This shits dangerous. Seriously. It was almost uncomfortable. The guy was just laughing at me the whole time and I had a grin ear to ear and was literally just like what the fuck the whole time. We finally got back and I m just grinning the whole time. Customer is super cool he comes in and signs everything right away for the switch to the Explorer ST. He walked out with a $24 000 check. We fucking paid him $24 000 for the ST since he bought his Tesla in cash. Coolest day selling cars by far. Glad I m gone though because I know we re gonna have so many idiots coming in wanting to test drive the Tesla Also I ve been in the market for a new car but today I learned there is such a thing as too fast. I d crash a Tesla in a heartbeat if I ever owned one. I think I m gonna go with like a hot hatch or something with a small turbo now because I don t need a muscle drag supercharged car. It was seriously scary how fast that thing accelerated. Super fucking cool vehicle though all in all and most epic day of work ever. Thanks for listening to my Ted talk but for real today just absolutely blew my fucking mind.
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I mostly love this story but > on the way to work I m mostly just on autopilot playing on my phone Don t do this. Watch the road. You can almost zone out and passively monitor but you can t actively focus on something else. AP will work perfectly up until the point it doesn t and you need to exercise human control.
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This dude should write for penthouse. Lol
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hkuivm
| 236 |
PSA: Check your Carfax even AFTER sale of your CPO vehicle I am normally a huge proponent for Tesla. I was happy to recommend buying CPO from them but am actually in quite a pickle that I have to say now buyer beware. I bought a Model X certified pre-owned (CPO) from Tesla (at Paramus NJ) without one issue on the Carfax report. It turns out that after I received a clear title from the DMV a month after the sale there was an anomalous report of flood damage recorded to the DMV on the vehicle approximately 3 weeks after the issuance of my clean title and I was not aware of it until recently. Because of this report supercharging was turned off. You can imagine my surprise learning this over a hundred miles from home. I was never sent a courtesy call nor email nor letter telling me they had this report on my VIN. No attempt was made to their paying customer to rectify it. I would not have driven it that far had I known and would have taken another vehicle. They effectively kept me stranded and did not even turn on supercharging even temporarily for me to get home. I called roadside service twice out of desperation and the CSR had to tell me no exceptions because of policy--I could tell they said so reluctantly but they know they stranded a family of five. They just turned it off without telling me knowing full well I showed active use of the vehicle on my app and driving it nearly weekly since the day of sale. I was never in a flood or accident. I never went to a shop other than Tesla for anything more than minor repairs or tire change and my insurance is up to date without any claims. I wish I could tell you a happy ending to this. Currently I am actually sitting in a hotel waiting on the trickle charge of 4 miles an hour to get enough miles to get home. The hotel was nice enough to let me charge. I had a starting charge of 60 miles and need 140 miles to get home safely. You do the math to figure out how long we ve been here. I really am at a loss as to how to prevent this even after sale from Tesla but aside from periodically screening Carfax a brand on the title is a scarlet letter that will take serious effort to remedy. I know my experience is a really rare event among the thousands of vehicles they sell but when it happens to a vehicle that you paid significant up front price to get it can hit you hard if you cannot weather it. And it s an even harder hit when the company you trusted treats you now like a pariah. EDIT: Thank you all for the advice and wishing us good luck! Just wanted you to know I made it home with the family safe and sound. I m going to try to make the rest of the weekend as relaxing as possible. Then when business day starts again that s when the hard work will come. Hopefully with a reasonable resolution (after some patience). Please have a great Independence Day for all of you in the States! Enjoy your family and friends as that is what matters most. Remember this is all just material things that don t really matter in the end and I have faith it ll all settle out eventually.
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What. The. Fuck. I d stop at the nearest service center and not leave until they gave me a loaner car with supercharging turned on at the very least. This is beyond fucked up. Selling a CPO then turning of supercharging because they realize there was flood title to it after they sold it without contacting customer first. Sorry OP I like Tesla too but I would be livid. Make them buy the car back or get it replaced with an identical one without flood title. Get a lawyer involved if necessary.
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If it s CPO check your Tesla acct. I have never heard of a CPO not being able to supercharge Tesla is supposed to be certifying the car. Is there an RV park near by or destination charger?
| 179 | 9 | 7,219 |
hkuivm
| 236 |
PSA: Check your Carfax even AFTER sale of your CPO vehicle I am normally a huge proponent for Tesla. I was happy to recommend buying CPO from them but am actually in quite a pickle that I have to say now buyer beware. I bought a Model X certified pre-owned (CPO) from Tesla (at Paramus NJ) without one issue on the Carfax report. It turns out that after I received a clear title from the DMV a month after the sale there was an anomalous report of flood damage recorded to the DMV on the vehicle approximately 3 weeks after the issuance of my clean title and I was not aware of it until recently. Because of this report supercharging was turned off. You can imagine my surprise learning this over a hundred miles from home. I was never sent a courtesy call nor email nor letter telling me they had this report on my VIN. No attempt was made to their paying customer to rectify it. I would not have driven it that far had I known and would have taken another vehicle. They effectively kept me stranded and did not even turn on supercharging even temporarily for me to get home. I called roadside service twice out of desperation and the CSR had to tell me no exceptions because of policy--I could tell they said so reluctantly but they know they stranded a family of five. They just turned it off without telling me knowing full well I showed active use of the vehicle on my app and driving it nearly weekly since the day of sale. I was never in a flood or accident. I never went to a shop other than Tesla for anything more than minor repairs or tire change and my insurance is up to date without any claims. I wish I could tell you a happy ending to this. Currently I am actually sitting in a hotel waiting on the trickle charge of 4 miles an hour to get enough miles to get home. The hotel was nice enough to let me charge. I had a starting charge of 60 miles and need 140 miles to get home safely. You do the math to figure out how long we ve been here. I really am at a loss as to how to prevent this even after sale from Tesla but aside from periodically screening Carfax a brand on the title is a scarlet letter that will take serious effort to remedy. I know my experience is a really rare event among the thousands of vehicles they sell but when it happens to a vehicle that you paid significant up front price to get it can hit you hard if you cannot weather it. And it s an even harder hit when the company you trusted treats you now like a pariah. EDIT: Thank you all for the advice and wishing us good luck! Just wanted you to know I made it home with the family safe and sound. I m going to try to make the rest of the weekend as relaxing as possible. Then when business day starts again that s when the hard work will come. Hopefully with a reasonable resolution (after some patience). Please have a great Independence Day for all of you in the States! Enjoy your family and friends as that is what matters most. Remember this is all just material things that don t really matter in the end and I have faith it ll all settle out eventually.
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What. The. Fuck. I d stop at the nearest service center and not leave until they gave me a loaner car with supercharging turned on at the very least. This is beyond fucked up. Selling a CPO then turning of supercharging because they realize there was flood title to it after they sold it without contacting customer first. Sorry OP I like Tesla too but I would be livid. Make them buy the car back or get it replaced with an identical one without flood title. Get a lawyer involved if necessary.
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Have you reached out to the sales department and not just roadside service. I d be up there everyday until I got an answer on why my CPO car can t supercharger and has flood damage.
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hkuivm
| 236 |
PSA: Check your Carfax even AFTER sale of your CPO vehicle I am normally a huge proponent for Tesla. I was happy to recommend buying CPO from them but am actually in quite a pickle that I have to say now buyer beware. I bought a Model X certified pre-owned (CPO) from Tesla (at Paramus NJ) without one issue on the Carfax report. It turns out that after I received a clear title from the DMV a month after the sale there was an anomalous report of flood damage recorded to the DMV on the vehicle approximately 3 weeks after the issuance of my clean title and I was not aware of it until recently. Because of this report supercharging was turned off. You can imagine my surprise learning this over a hundred miles from home. I was never sent a courtesy call nor email nor letter telling me they had this report on my VIN. No attempt was made to their paying customer to rectify it. I would not have driven it that far had I known and would have taken another vehicle. They effectively kept me stranded and did not even turn on supercharging even temporarily for me to get home. I called roadside service twice out of desperation and the CSR had to tell me no exceptions because of policy--I could tell they said so reluctantly but they know they stranded a family of five. They just turned it off without telling me knowing full well I showed active use of the vehicle on my app and driving it nearly weekly since the day of sale. I was never in a flood or accident. I never went to a shop other than Tesla for anything more than minor repairs or tire change and my insurance is up to date without any claims. I wish I could tell you a happy ending to this. Currently I am actually sitting in a hotel waiting on the trickle charge of 4 miles an hour to get enough miles to get home. The hotel was nice enough to let me charge. I had a starting charge of 60 miles and need 140 miles to get home safely. You do the math to figure out how long we ve been here. I really am at a loss as to how to prevent this even after sale from Tesla but aside from periodically screening Carfax a brand on the title is a scarlet letter that will take serious effort to remedy. I know my experience is a really rare event among the thousands of vehicles they sell but when it happens to a vehicle that you paid significant up front price to get it can hit you hard if you cannot weather it. And it s an even harder hit when the company you trusted treats you now like a pariah. EDIT: Thank you all for the advice and wishing us good luck! Just wanted you to know I made it home with the family safe and sound. I m going to try to make the rest of the weekend as relaxing as possible. Then when business day starts again that s when the hard work will come. Hopefully with a reasonable resolution (after some patience). Please have a great Independence Day for all of you in the States! Enjoy your family and friends as that is what matters most. Remember this is all just material things that don t really matter in the end and I have faith it ll all settle out eventually.
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Honestly you should be looking at returning the car. You paid for a cpo car not one with flood damage. Even if they do turn on supercharging you still wayyy overpaid.
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I just bought a 2017 CPO Model X and it won t charge at home. My wall connector works fine on my Model 3 so it s not the problem - it s the vehicle s on board AC charger that s the problem. Disappointed they would sell me a vehicle that doesn t charge at home! Fortunately it does supercharge...but this will be seriously inconvenient over the next two weeks until my SC appointment.
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hl80c1
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Taking a stand on improving Tesla customer support **Disclaimer:** I may take a hit by posting this but I think it could be good food for thought. **This is not some sort of anti-Tesla rhetoric but a way we as Tesla owners can support each other when there is a clear wrong.** To be upfront I have -not- had any issues with Tesla or customer service in terms of bad experiences (at least not yet). I mean I ve been vocal about FSD and how I think they have been going about it the wrong way in terms of market penetration but that is another topic. **The Perceived Issue** Increasingly over the last several months I ve seen a lot of complaints against the way Tesla handles something or short changes customers. I am ever aware that negative feedback tends to stand out more but here on reddit for example there is a very pro-Tesla crowd so I think it is relatively balanced out. That being said Tesla while they have grown leaps and bounds since the original Roadster is still very much in its formative years and they tend to make some questionable decisions when it comes to supporting their customers (sometimes this is location dependent but also tends to affect the whole when it comes to policy). So I have been thinking aside from posting in the Tesla forums posting here in this subreddit and or trying to ping Elon on twitter and hope he acknowledges and fixes an issue what other avenue do we have? **Proposal** My thought is if Tesla refuses to acknowledge a clear issue and or tries to short-change customers we could protest by hitting them in the technological money-maker: opting out of any opt-in data that helps them improve their AI software and other improvements that rely on this data. **Some Issues or Challenges with this approach** \\- Of course one person isn t going to make a difference. But if we created a customer collective a sizable data protest might be very noticeable to Tesla \\- Who decides what issue warrants a data protest by the collective? This is a very reasonable question and I m not quite sure if I have an answer for it yet. Community voting perhaps? \\- Requires individual commitment as each user would have to disable the opt-in data collection whenever a collective protest is formally launched \\- This can have a reduction software improvements for our vehicles. But I think the short term effects would be offset by the long term gains \\- Would this cause Tesla to change the opt-in data system to required as part of their software update policy or are various regional laws enough to prevent this from happening? **How now brown cow?** What I am hoping to see from this is healthy discussions as to the pros and cons of such an idea and perhaps any other avenues in which Tesla customers can get the support they deserve when Tesla is at fault.
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Better idea: 1. Use lemon law where applicable for problem vehicles. 2. return vehicle when possible 3. complaint to departments of consumer products and state attorney general. 4. shame in detail on social media. Squeaky wheels get the grease.
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While customer service is something they should strive to improve your proposal hurts everyone and delays a feature that could improve safety and save lives. If you want to protest customer service just send angry tweets. Don t try to convince people to stop data collection in order to try to prevent Autopilot FSD improvement.
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hl80c1
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Taking a stand on improving Tesla customer support **Disclaimer:** I may take a hit by posting this but I think it could be good food for thought. **This is not some sort of anti-Tesla rhetoric but a way we as Tesla owners can support each other when there is a clear wrong.** To be upfront I have -not- had any issues with Tesla or customer service in terms of bad experiences (at least not yet). I mean I ve been vocal about FSD and how I think they have been going about it the wrong way in terms of market penetration but that is another topic. **The Perceived Issue** Increasingly over the last several months I ve seen a lot of complaints against the way Tesla handles something or short changes customers. I am ever aware that negative feedback tends to stand out more but here on reddit for example there is a very pro-Tesla crowd so I think it is relatively balanced out. That being said Tesla while they have grown leaps and bounds since the original Roadster is still very much in its formative years and they tend to make some questionable decisions when it comes to supporting their customers (sometimes this is location dependent but also tends to affect the whole when it comes to policy). So I have been thinking aside from posting in the Tesla forums posting here in this subreddit and or trying to ping Elon on twitter and hope he acknowledges and fixes an issue what other avenue do we have? **Proposal** My thought is if Tesla refuses to acknowledge a clear issue and or tries to short-change customers we could protest by hitting them in the technological money-maker: opting out of any opt-in data that helps them improve their AI software and other improvements that rely on this data. **Some Issues or Challenges with this approach** \\- Of course one person isn t going to make a difference. But if we created a customer collective a sizable data protest might be very noticeable to Tesla \\- Who decides what issue warrants a data protest by the collective? This is a very reasonable question and I m not quite sure if I have an answer for it yet. Community voting perhaps? \\- Requires individual commitment as each user would have to disable the opt-in data collection whenever a collective protest is formally launched \\- This can have a reduction software improvements for our vehicles. But I think the short term effects would be offset by the long term gains \\- Would this cause Tesla to change the opt-in data system to required as part of their software update policy or are various regional laws enough to prevent this from happening? **How now brown cow?** What I am hoping to see from this is healthy discussions as to the pros and cons of such an idea and perhaps any other avenues in which Tesla customers can get the support they deserve when Tesla is at fault.
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Better idea: 1. Use lemon law where applicable for problem vehicles. 2. return vehicle when possible 3. complaint to departments of consumer products and state attorney general. 4. shame in detail on social media. Squeaky wheels get the grease.
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How is Tesla going to know why people have turned off data collection? And will they even care? The Tesla fleet is huge and growing every day. This feels like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Nobody wins. Tesla isn t going to be held hostage by protesting users who turn off data collection. And let s face it. With your solution only people with a big enough social media influence would have a chance of getting their petition recognized by the community. And how do we even know the whole story? People lie on the internet all the time to get what they want.
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hl92gj
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Tesla Insurance incorrectly canceled for non-payment I just received an email from Tesla informing me that my insurance policy through Tesla Insurance has been canceled for non-payment. This makes no sense for multiple reasons. I checked the app and I see that my policy was active until May 4th. Yet I paid for May and June (and even received a receipt for May s payment). Here is a timeline of their correspondence and my bank statement line-items. * 3 3 20 - receipt for payment from TI * 3 4 20 - debit for payment on bank statement * *4 3 20 - NO EMAIL RECEIPT* * 4 6 20 - debit for payment on bank statement * 4 13 20 - Tesla Insurance Auto-Renewal Notice ( Your current auto policy... will auto-renew on 05 04 2020 ... No action is required. ) * 5 3 20 - Tesla Insurance Auto-Renewal Notice (Thank you for purchasing Tesla Insurance...) * 5 3 20 - receipt for payment from TI * 5 4 20 - debit for payment on bank statement * *6 3 20 - NO EMAIL RECEIPT* * 6 4 20 - debit for payment on bank statement * 7 3 20 - Formal notice of cancellation for non-payment Annoyingly it s the 4th of July today and I am apparently uninsured and unable to contact anyone due to it being a holiday. The website is also 404 - I m afraid I can t do that when I try to view the link for the insurance page through my Tesla Account. & #x200B Has anyone else had this issue? How did you resolve it? EDIT: 7 5 20 - Email explaining that I need to update my payment information and that I was still insured until 7 14 20. 7 6 20 - Phon call from agent requesting update to my info. Other than the initial email which seems unnecessary I am happy with the service. I don t know why they didn t just send a notice that my payment method needed updating and then make the call to do so.
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This was such a major issue for me with Tesla insurance. There was fraud on my credit card that I was using to pay for my insurance so I cancelled my card and didn t remember that it was attached to insurance. Instead of an email saying update your payment info or your insurance will be cancelled! I was just sent an immediate cancellation notice literally at 5:01pm when I couldn t call them. It freaked the shit out of me because I was on a road trip and could not risk losing my insurance. I called the next day and updated it but only after spending the whole evening being anxious about it. I gave the guy feedback and was like dude why are you guys sending this shit out at 5:01pm and can t you give like a 3 day grace period or something? And he was like yeah yeah he agrees with me and they re working on changing it. That was 4 months ago and I m very sad to hear they haven t changed jack shit!
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This happened to me a few months ago. Just call them up and update your credit card info. It could happen if your credit card expired or if you used Apple Pay to sign up. In my case it was because Apple Pay problem. I told them it would be nice if they could include the ability to update payment info on the website instead of this strongly worded email that your policy is cancelled. They agreed and said they have been having this problem often. Edit: Your insurance is still good for a couple of weeks. At least mine said it would be cancelled by a certain date later than the sent date of the letter.
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hlg94m
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Letting friends drive your Tesla Are you overprotective about who drives your Tesla or do you let your friends test drive it? Personally I enjoy letting friends and family experience the wonders of driving my Tesla while I am being chauffeured around. It is a simple thing and they get very excited about it.
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Hell I ve let *strangers* test drive my Model 3. Back in 2019 a guy came here to the sub to ask if anyone was willing to bring their Tesla to his wedding to have it act like a demo car. That sounded like an interesting idea so I said yes. I had a *fucking* **blast**. Getting to show off the car not only to interested adults but also to all the kids. They absolutely ADORED Beach Buggy Racing 2 (this was just a few weeks after it launched) especially getting to use the real steering wheel and brake pedal as the controls. They played for hours with my supervision while the adults mingled in ways that kids don t care for. And the adults *raved* about both the acceleration and AP. Every test drive included at least one passenger who was was completely blown away. I would not be surprised if I sold at least two Model 3s that day. Even the older gentleman who d been driving Mercedes all his life (he was clearly pretty wealthy) had only positive things to say about the experience.
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I let all my friends drive it. I need them to buy one and drive up the price of $TSLA.
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hlg94m
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Letting friends drive your Tesla Are you overprotective about who drives your Tesla or do you let your friends test drive it? Personally I enjoy letting friends and family experience the wonders of driving my Tesla while I am being chauffeured around. It is a simple thing and they get very excited about it.
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Hell I ve let *strangers* test drive my Model 3. Back in 2019 a guy came here to the sub to ask if anyone was willing to bring their Tesla to his wedding to have it act like a demo car. That sounded like an interesting idea so I said yes. I had a *fucking* **blast**. Getting to show off the car not only to interested adults but also to all the kids. They absolutely ADORED Beach Buggy Racing 2 (this was just a few weeks after it launched) especially getting to use the real steering wheel and brake pedal as the controls. They played for hours with my supervision while the adults mingled in ways that kids don t care for. And the adults *raved* about both the acceleration and AP. Every test drive included at least one passenger who was was completely blown away. I would not be surprised if I sold at least two Model 3s that day. Even the older gentleman who d been driving Mercedes all his life (he was clearly pretty wealthy) had only positive things to say about the experience.
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In pre-covid times I would let total strangers drive if they showed interest. The more Teslas on the road the better.
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hlg94m
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Letting friends drive your Tesla Are you overprotective about who drives your Tesla or do you let your friends test drive it? Personally I enjoy letting friends and family experience the wonders of driving my Tesla while I am being chauffeured around. It is a simple thing and they get very excited about it.
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Hell I ve let *strangers* test drive my Model 3. Back in 2019 a guy came here to the sub to ask if anyone was willing to bring their Tesla to his wedding to have it act like a demo car. That sounded like an interesting idea so I said yes. I had a *fucking* **blast**. Getting to show off the car not only to interested adults but also to all the kids. They absolutely ADORED Beach Buggy Racing 2 (this was just a few weeks after it launched) especially getting to use the real steering wheel and brake pedal as the controls. They played for hours with my supervision while the adults mingled in ways that kids don t care for. And the adults *raved* about both the acceleration and AP. Every test drive included at least one passenger who was was completely blown away. I would not be surprised if I sold at least two Model 3s that day. Even the older gentleman who d been driving Mercedes all his life (he was clearly pretty wealthy) had only positive things to say about the experience.
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My mother asked to drive mine in an empty parking lot just to get used to acceleration at low speed. I m not sure what she was worried about. Now my parents have a 3 and a Y on the way. I also let one of my friends drive the four of us from the bar to a movie theater because he was the only one that was sober and one of the other friends refused to walk. When he tapped the accelerator he let out a WOAH! Something about feeling that instant response is life changing.
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hltdmg
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Control passenger seat movement from touch-screen. If I just have my wife in the car (Model 3) she likes to put the front passenger seat back and lounge. Then if she s not in the car but someone wants to sit in the back I have to get out of the car go round to the passenger side and move the seat forward tilt it forward etc. This is obviously not ideal when it s raining etc. Would make life a lot easier if we could get those controls on the screen if possible. (As an addendum a feature like this on the phone app would be great for moving *both* front seats forward for when you need to put the back seats down.)
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Unfortunately that s not possible for existing vehicles only the driver s seat has a connection to the CAN bus.
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Can it be added to the driver s profile also.
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hltdmg
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Control passenger seat movement from touch-screen. If I just have my wife in the car (Model 3) she likes to put the front passenger seat back and lounge. Then if she s not in the car but someone wants to sit in the back I have to get out of the car go round to the passenger side and move the seat forward tilt it forward etc. This is obviously not ideal when it s raining etc. Would make life a lot easier if we could get those controls on the screen if possible. (As an addendum a feature like this on the phone app would be great for moving *both* front seats forward for when you need to put the back seats down.)
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Unfortunately that s not possible for existing vehicles only the driver s seat has a connection to the CAN bus.
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I m camping this weekend. I agree with you it would be nice to be able to move the passenger seat around.
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hltdmg
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Control passenger seat movement from touch-screen. If I just have my wife in the car (Model 3) she likes to put the front passenger seat back and lounge. Then if she s not in the car but someone wants to sit in the back I have to get out of the car go round to the passenger side and move the seat forward tilt it forward etc. This is obviously not ideal when it s raining etc. Would make life a lot easier if we could get those controls on the screen if possible. (As an addendum a feature like this on the phone app would be great for moving *both* front seats forward for when you need to put the back seats down.)
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Unfortunately that s not possible for existing vehicles only the driver s seat has a connection to the CAN bus.
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I could not agree more.
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hmebv2
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Model 3 AWD 60+ mile lost range I have a 2018 M3 AWD with 19k miles and at 100% charge I have a range of 249 miles. I have tried some calibration suggestions I found online but I m not seeing any improvements. I know batteries are expected to degrade over time but seems extreme and I noticed it has gotten worst over time. A few months ago I was getting 267 miles at 80% which is what I always set it to charge at. I m planning on contacting Tesla but I figure I try here to see if anyone has any advice.
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Assuming your BMS is calibrated you re at almost 20% degradation quite extreme but not bad enough to have a warranty claim yet (the warranty only covers 30% or greater capacity loss). You may have already tried these but a good procedure to get your car to re-estimate itself more accurately would be to do the following in this order: 1. Let your car sit at 90% or greater for 24 hours (or longer if possible). This ll cause the BMS to re-balance the brick voltages which only occurs at or above ~85%. Do this multiple times if necessity dictates you can t keep your car above 90% for a whole day at a time 2. Use your car normally but don t charge it. Let the battery get down to 20% (or whatever you re comfortable with) and leave it parked at that low SoC for at least a few hours 3. Charge the car back up to 80% (or higher) and let it sit for another few hours. This ll cause your BMS to re-estimate your pack s capacity based on the measured amp-hours added during charging 4. Recheck max range by setting your car UI to miles and dragging the charge level slider in the app to 100% (rough estimate) or redo your 100% charge test (but be sure to not let it sit there too long)
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https: youtu.be gIy-3q51dXY
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hmebv2
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Model 3 AWD 60+ mile lost range I have a 2018 M3 AWD with 19k miles and at 100% charge I have a range of 249 miles. I have tried some calibration suggestions I found online but I m not seeing any improvements. I know batteries are expected to degrade over time but seems extreme and I noticed it has gotten worst over time. A few months ago I was getting 267 miles at 80% which is what I always set it to charge at. I m planning on contacting Tesla but I figure I try here to see if anyone has any advice.
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**Someone please help by upvoting this!** & #x200B Many suggest going down to 20%. This is very wrong. You need to go at least to 6-8% and if you can even lower. The reason is not intuitive but neither is it complex. There are voltage sensors that are calibrated to measure the voltage. Cell battery voltage is precisely what tells the car the current S.O.C. It s not linear though. It s more of an horizontal S. Over time these sensors lose calibration to what 0V is. They reset their calibrations when they go to 90%+ and also under 6-8%. They pass these points (determined by BMS coding) and set flags. Once they pass these flags the software calibrates the BMS. This 20% crap is so incredibly wrong. Please help by upvoting so more see this. & #x200B Source: I work in the battery energy field and extensively with BMSs
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https: youtu.be gIy-3q51dXY
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hmebv2
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Model 3 AWD 60+ mile lost range I have a 2018 M3 AWD with 19k miles and at 100% charge I have a range of 249 miles. I have tried some calibration suggestions I found online but I m not seeing any improvements. I know batteries are expected to degrade over time but seems extreme and I noticed it has gotten worst over time. A few months ago I was getting 267 miles at 80% which is what I always set it to charge at. I m planning on contacting Tesla but I figure I try here to see if anyone has any advice.
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Assuming your BMS is calibrated you re at almost 20% degradation quite extreme but not bad enough to have a warranty claim yet (the warranty only covers 30% or greater capacity loss). You may have already tried these but a good procedure to get your car to re-estimate itself more accurately would be to do the following in this order: 1. Let your car sit at 90% or greater for 24 hours (or longer if possible). This ll cause the BMS to re-balance the brick voltages which only occurs at or above ~85%. Do this multiple times if necessity dictates you can t keep your car above 90% for a whole day at a time 2. Use your car normally but don t charge it. Let the battery get down to 20% (or whatever you re comfortable with) and leave it parked at that low SoC for at least a few hours 3. Charge the car back up to 80% (or higher) and let it sit for another few hours. This ll cause your BMS to re-estimate your pack s capacity based on the measured amp-hours added during charging 4. Recheck max range by setting your car UI to miles and dragging the charge level slider in the app to 100% (rough estimate) or redo your 100% charge test (but be sure to not let it sit there too long)
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That is very low. My 2018 LR RWD used to charge to 317 (not while new in August) but has since dropped to 299.
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hn6r0c
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So I did my first Enhanced Summon today. Mild hilarity ensued. I tried enhanced summoning my Model 3 at a parking lot in front of Target today. I parked it way in the back so it wasn t near anything. The results were a hard LOL. First it cut through a bunch of empty parking spaces like an asshole. It then tried to side swipe itself against a barricade before I aborted it. The experiment ended with the car parked perpendicular to two empty parking spots. I ll give it an A for at least getting closer to me but a F- for how it got there! TL DR: Enhanced Summon ain t ready for prime time. EDIT: I ll try this again in a parking lot near my gym and record it to show y all the immense value I m realizing from my $7 000 purchase.
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The should call it Advanced Drunk Grandma Summon.
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nice! Elon said thank you for the money.
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hn6r0c
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So I did my first Enhanced Summon today. Mild hilarity ensued. I tried enhanced summoning my Model 3 at a parking lot in front of Target today. I parked it way in the back so it wasn t near anything. The results were a hard LOL. First it cut through a bunch of empty parking spaces like an asshole. It then tried to side swipe itself against a barricade before I aborted it. The experiment ended with the car parked perpendicular to two empty parking spots. I ll give it an A for at least getting closer to me but a F- for how it got there! TL DR: Enhanced Summon ain t ready for prime time. EDIT: I ll try this again in a parking lot near my gym and record it to show y all the immense value I m realizing from my $7 000 purchase.
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The should call it Advanced Drunk Grandma Summon.
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This echos most peoples experience lately. I feel like it was better several updates back (Q3 last year) not sure what s happened but I rarely try it any more. I ve got confidence it will get better just no idea when.
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hn6r0c
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So I did my first Enhanced Summon today. Mild hilarity ensued. I tried enhanced summoning my Model 3 at a parking lot in front of Target today. I parked it way in the back so it wasn t near anything. The results were a hard LOL. First it cut through a bunch of empty parking spaces like an asshole. It then tried to side swipe itself against a barricade before I aborted it. The experiment ended with the car parked perpendicular to two empty parking spots. I ll give it an A for at least getting closer to me but a F- for how it got there! TL DR: Enhanced Summon ain t ready for prime time. EDIT: I ll try this again in a parking lot near my gym and record it to show y all the immense value I m realizing from my $7 000 purchase.
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Check openstreetmap Tesla uses the parking lot lanes from there. If they don t exist it will just make a direct shot toward you. I added my work parking lot and it started working in the car a couple months later following the lanes properly.
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Shoulda captured it on a video.
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hn79he
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Tesla should allow you to Switch the Trunk Frunk Shortcut I ve always wondered why within the Tesla app the Frunk shortcut was always there instead of the Trunk at the top. I almost never use the Frunk and I assume most others don t either. I wish Tesla would allow you to choose which Trunk shortcut was available. Or have both of them there.
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I always assumed the logic is that you can open the trunk with your phone still in your pocket just by pressing the button under the lid. You can t do that with the front trunk. Having said that I wouldn t necessarily mind having both.
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There is enough space for another one so it would be best to have both.
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hn8l16
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Tesla 3 partial premium interior speakers vs. Long rage premium interior speakers Hey I m stuck between the Tesla 3 standard range plus and the long range. I would like feedback on the audio comparison between the two models to maybe push me in one model or the other. How much better is the sound system subjectively in the premium interior and is it worh the extra money? Side note is it hard expensive to customize the speaker system in the model 3 standard range?
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I think if you do not get the premium sound you will always regret not having it.
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If you have the money get the long range. Sound doesn t matter if you re spending all your time charging.
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hnjk50
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2013 Model S for 20k (a friend recent passed and is offering to car to me for this to get rid of it) and it has 29k miles So Ive done some research and I understand that the 2013 gen was a rough year for Tesla and it doesn t include AP and that the battery is dated as well as the technology behind it. The man who drove the car out 30k on it over 7 years before he passed so he rarely used it and the car is in great shape. Now I can get another used model s that s 2016 for around 35k. I m wondering what your thoughts are on the situation and if that price is cheap enough to snag the model s given that years issues Thanks for your time!
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If you don t buy it I will.
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If your friend needs to sell the $20k one quick buy it and flip it. The 2016 also sounds like a good deal. Buy both?
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hnsnx3
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Munro confirms Tesla can t allow power output via OTA software patch [https: youtu.be 6qM0LpsYb6A](https: youtu.be 6qM0LpsYb6A) So there we have it folks. Unfortunately Tesla won t be able to allow us to plug into our car s charging port and output the power to other cars or our homes with a software update. It will require hardware modifications to the electronics in the cars.
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He s only examining the AC circuits. Outputting via DC is still feasible and that s actually how the existing V2G setup works for the Nissan Leaf. It could be enabled via software update but would require an external inverter on your home or a connection to a Powerwall gateway.
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It was already confirmed in other posts tweets.
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hoaxxs
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2 week old model Y. A C stopped working. Driving home from AZ to Cali Stopped at the supercharger in Quartzsite AZ and we were so excited because it was charging the car over 900mph but about 15 mins in the a c started blowing warm air. We sat there for another 10 mins and finally had to.kove on because we have a fish tank (with fish) two dogs my wife and I all in the car and it s 115 degrees out. I reset everything turned off the a c and turned it on. Drove it about 20 miles and it slightly started cooking but prob about 95 in the car right now. Has anyone had this happen? I m literally driving while typing this (wife is driving) trying to figure it out. I have to keep driving to get the family home but this is crazy... The car is 2 weeks old....
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I suspect that your AC is being used to cool the battery right now because supercharging warmed it up a whole lot plus radiant heating plus the 115 degree day. It may just be overwhelmed trying to cool the motors battery and you at the same time under that kind of assault. It could also be that the Y has a new heat pump and the software for it may not be very mature. I d try to contact Tesla. I d go to the app pick Roadside Assistance and tell them it s 115 degrees outside and the air conditioning doesn t work. They might be able to pull data from the car remotely and tell you what s up.
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I see reports from other people charging at Quartzsite saying the same thing. The car protects the battery instead of the cabin. It takes a while for it to get the battery cool and then the cabin AC should come back.
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hoaxxs
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2 week old model Y. A C stopped working. Driving home from AZ to Cali Stopped at the supercharger in Quartzsite AZ and we were so excited because it was charging the car over 900mph but about 15 mins in the a c started blowing warm air. We sat there for another 10 mins and finally had to.kove on because we have a fish tank (with fish) two dogs my wife and I all in the car and it s 115 degrees out. I reset everything turned off the a c and turned it on. Drove it about 20 miles and it slightly started cooking but prob about 95 in the car right now. Has anyone had this happen? I m literally driving while typing this (wife is driving) trying to figure it out. I have to keep driving to get the family home but this is crazy... The car is 2 weeks old....
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Update Drove about 50 miles now and it s 80 in the cabin. Seems like it s slowly getting cooler but still completely unexplainable. My family was in a car that s over 100 degrees for almost an hour
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I see reports from other people charging at Quartzsite saying the same thing. The car protects the battery instead of the cabin. It takes a while for it to get the battery cool and then the cabin AC should come back.
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hov37w
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To the perspective buyer To the current owner: I don t need to know that Jeff from your local SC hasn t called you back yet. This isn t the Tesla complaints department. I understand you had a poor customer service experience and are frustrated but many have had equally positive experiences that they didn t feel the need to post here. To the perspective buyer: Based on many posts here Tesla has panel gapped cars and useless service staff. That hasn t been my experience and I feel that the positive drowns in the negative on this forum. I m not saying Tesla is perfect and issues should be ignored but there are better outlets to have your issues dealt with. Just an idea to improve the air quality of this subreddit.
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I had to scroll through 20 of this month s top posts before I got to one that was negative about Tesla. I think you re just focusing on the stuff that disagrees with your personal bias. Many of us agree that Tesla has real issues including QC that s lacking and customer service that s unresponsive. That shouldn t be swept under the rug. Prospective buyers should know what *might* go wrong so they re prepared. That s why we have delivery checklists and such in the sidebar. Prospective buyers should know they might struggle with customer service or that they might have cosmetic defects at delivery or that FSD isn t exactly “F”SD or that the cars aren t “zero maintenance” like many of the overly optimistic Tesla fans like to say. If you don t like hearing the negative anecdotes hide them or ignore them. But I wholeheartedly disagree that this sub needs an injection of positivity. There s already a wealth of positivity on this sub.
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I totally agree! I was so scared before getting mine delivered because I kept reading reddit posts trashing the service center. I am very glad I stuck with it. I ve not experienced any issues. It is prospective btw
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hpxh4w
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Buyer beware: avoid the Jeda Hub. The company doesn t honor their warranty and seems to dislike Pixel phones. Hey guys I ordered the Jeda Hub a while back for my Model 3. I choose this particular hub to support a US company and the original designer of the idea. After waiting a month to get the product all seemed well. Unfortunately a few months later my wife tried the USB C ports to charge her Pixel while we were driving to no avail. We tried a few other devices and had the same problem. Reached out to Jeda and they were very responsive at first and seemed to want to remedy the issue. I explained that we had Pixel phones and things got weird. They explained that they have issues with Pixels and asked me to test another device. I let them know that I did and got no response. Sent another email a week later no response. Another email a week later no response. Coincidentally I m now outside of their warranty period. For the price I could have purchased two knock off hubs. Honestly I d recommend you do that since you ll get it faster it ll work and if it is broken you can buy another one and still save money relative to the Jeda Hub.
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Jeda is quite well known to be a dogsh*t company around Tesla subs. I ve certainly seen a number of these posts over the years.
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I bought a knock off on Amazon for half the price. Pixel 3a XL works.
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hpxh4w
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Buyer beware: avoid the Jeda Hub. The company doesn t honor their warranty and seems to dislike Pixel phones. Hey guys I ordered the Jeda Hub a while back for my Model 3. I choose this particular hub to support a US company and the original designer of the idea. After waiting a month to get the product all seemed well. Unfortunately a few months later my wife tried the USB C ports to charge her Pixel while we were driving to no avail. We tried a few other devices and had the same problem. Reached out to Jeda and they were very responsive at first and seemed to want to remedy the issue. I explained that we had Pixel phones and things got weird. They explained that they have issues with Pixels and asked me to test another device. I let them know that I did and got no response. Sent another email a week later no response. Another email a week later no response. Coincidentally I m now outside of their warranty period. For the price I could have purchased two knock off hubs. Honestly I d recommend you do that since you ll get it faster it ll work and if it is broken you can buy another one and still save money relative to the Jeda Hub.
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Jeda is quite well known to be a dogsh*t company around Tesla subs. I ve certainly seen a number of these posts over the years.
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Charge back if you still can and they re not responsive? You contacted them within the warranty period. That s not on you.
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hq2hhy
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How could Tesla make the Mobile App and Tesla Trips better? Every once in a while we make a larger post that is in support of what Tesla can do to enhance the experience of owners because we know they are watching. How would you enhance your personal experience through the Tesla App or through [Tesla Trips](https: www.tesla.com trips)? **Tesla App** - Feature 1 - Feature 2 **Tesla Trips** - Feature 1 - Feature 2 **Make your voice heard!!**
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**Tesla App** - Stream sentry events to mobile app - Siri shortcut Google assistant integration (so I don t have to use a third party app for it) - Apple Watch support especially Bluetooth key functionality - Raise wipers - fold and unfold mirrors - open glovebox - In car trip planner via app (for planning next days travel) - two-factor authentication - scheduled departure control via app - Force GPS update (location unchanged if car is towed) And last but not least: - Show red brake calipers on performance wheels
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I ll start. I just left for vaca yesterday on a 9hr drive. I tried to use ABRP because I have a new roof rack storage and extra weight and I found the car was more efficient than the parameters I set (like my lifetime wh mi). I did end up using the built-in nav but as I started driving the estimated % at my destination did drop 6%. It was still reasonable but if I could customize some of these settings in the car when taking a trip it could be more accurate for example setting what charge you want to have when you arrive at your destination.
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hq2hhy
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How could Tesla make the Mobile App and Tesla Trips better? Every once in a while we make a larger post that is in support of what Tesla can do to enhance the experience of owners because we know they are watching. How would you enhance your personal experience through the Tesla App or through [Tesla Trips](https: www.tesla.com trips)? **Tesla App** - Feature 1 - Feature 2 **Tesla Trips** - Feature 1 - Feature 2 **Make your voice heard!!**
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**Tesla App** - Stream sentry events to mobile app - Siri shortcut Google assistant integration (so I don t have to use a third party app for it) - Apple Watch support especially Bluetooth key functionality - Raise wipers - fold and unfold mirrors - open glovebox - In car trip planner via app (for planning next days travel) - two-factor authentication - scheduled departure control via app - Force GPS update (location unchanged if car is towed) And last but not least: - Show red brake calipers on performance wheels
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Let you set a minimum charge. Also waypoints
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hq2hhy
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How could Tesla make the Mobile App and Tesla Trips better? Every once in a while we make a larger post that is in support of what Tesla can do to enhance the experience of owners because we know they are watching. How would you enhance your personal experience through the Tesla App or through [Tesla Trips](https: www.tesla.com trips)? **Tesla App** - Feature 1 - Feature 2 **Tesla Trips** - Feature 1 - Feature 2 **Make your voice heard!!**
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**Tesla App** - Stream sentry events to mobile app - Siri shortcut Google assistant integration (so I don t have to use a third party app for it) - Apple Watch support especially Bluetooth key functionality - Raise wipers - fold and unfold mirrors - open glovebox - In car trip planner via app (for planning next days travel) - two-factor authentication - scheduled departure control via app - Force GPS update (location unchanged if car is towed) And last but not least: - Show red brake calipers on performance wheels
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Option to type in charge limit percentage rather than just the left-to-right slider that seems to count a percent for every micron of finger movement. Get it to 80% lift thumb off screen and it moves to 82%
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hq33bo
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Elon Musk 2nd performance award within sight? With Tesla s massive rise in share price recently I thought it would be interesting to visit how close he is to his second tranche of compensation. If all of my math is correct it looks like Elon Musk will earn another 1.69 million shares very soon (Next Monday the 20th assuming the share price doesn t go down. Obviously very big IF). Link to his performance award package: [https: www.sec.gov Archives edgar data 1318605 000119312518016650 d500497dex991.htm](https: www.sec.gov Archives edgar data 1318605 000119312518016650 d500497dex991.htm) It is my understanding that he needs 4 things to be true to get another 1.69 million shares. 2 are operational and 2 are market cap. Note: It is really 1 market cap milestone but there is a 6 month calculation AND a 30 day calculation. 1. (Operational): Revenue of 20 Billion. Current trailing 4 quarters is \\~26 Billion. 2. (Operational): Adjusted EBITDA of 1.5 Billion. Current Adjusted EBITDA for the trailing 4 quarters is 3.78 Billion. 3. (market cap): 6 month market cap average of 150 Billion. Current 6 month average is 141 Billion BUT 6 more days assuming the share price market cap stays the same (286B currently) would put him at 151B. 4. (market cap): 30 day trailing average market cap of 150 Billion. Current trailing 30 days is 205 Billion. & #x200B I made a Google Sheet with the closing market cap to show my work. Thoughts? [https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 1MotHvhl4s8azbn9UAYqQ3kqTqCW-ihcnoIfHcUaOiGg edit#gid=0](https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 1MotHvhl4s8azbn9UAYqQ3kqTqCW-ihcnoIfHcUaOiGg edit#gid=0)
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Good for him good for Tesla! I ve seen a lot of rich person hate over his 1st performance award because the media simply said Elon Musk just got paid $$$$$ and a bunch of people went crazy about the Rich CEO Gets Richer argument. Most of the articles failed to point out that Elon is on a 100% compensation structure he makes $0 salary 0 cash bonuses and 0 time-based vested equity. This is extremely uncommon for executive contracts executives want to ensure they get paid no matter what happens to their company. The fact that Elon only makes money when his company makes money is not only a great structure for Tesla it s an awesome way for Elon to show he s in it to win it. I m not trying to start a debate about Tesla wages minimum wages etc just pointing out that it s something that Elon and Tesla did that I respect very much. Here s Tesla s statement: Elon actually earned $0 in total compensation from Tesla in 2018 and any reporting otherwise is incorrect and misleading. Unlike other CEOs Elon receives no salary no cash bonuses and no equity that simply vests by the passage of time. His only compensation is a completely at-risk performance award that was specifically designed with ambitious milestones such as doubling Tesla s current market capitalization from approximately $40 billion to $100 billion. As a result Elon s entire compensation is directly tied to the long-term success of Tesla and its shareholders and none of the equity from his 2018 performance package has vested.
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Would Musk be able to in any way further increase the buying pressure on the stock through this? Serious question.
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hq33bo
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Elon Musk 2nd performance award within sight? With Tesla s massive rise in share price recently I thought it would be interesting to visit how close he is to his second tranche of compensation. If all of my math is correct it looks like Elon Musk will earn another 1.69 million shares very soon (Next Monday the 20th assuming the share price doesn t go down. Obviously very big IF). Link to his performance award package: [https: www.sec.gov Archives edgar data 1318605 000119312518016650 d500497dex991.htm](https: www.sec.gov Archives edgar data 1318605 000119312518016650 d500497dex991.htm) It is my understanding that he needs 4 things to be true to get another 1.69 million shares. 2 are operational and 2 are market cap. Note: It is really 1 market cap milestone but there is a 6 month calculation AND a 30 day calculation. 1. (Operational): Revenue of 20 Billion. Current trailing 4 quarters is \\~26 Billion. 2. (Operational): Adjusted EBITDA of 1.5 Billion. Current Adjusted EBITDA for the trailing 4 quarters is 3.78 Billion. 3. (market cap): 6 month market cap average of 150 Billion. Current 6 month average is 141 Billion BUT 6 more days assuming the share price market cap stays the same (286B currently) would put him at 151B. 4. (market cap): 30 day trailing average market cap of 150 Billion. Current trailing 30 days is 205 Billion. & #x200B I made a Google Sheet with the closing market cap to show my work. Thoughts? [https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 1MotHvhl4s8azbn9UAYqQ3kqTqCW-ihcnoIfHcUaOiGg edit#gid=0](https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 1MotHvhl4s8azbn9UAYqQ3kqTqCW-ihcnoIfHcUaOiGg edit#gid=0)
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Good for him good for Tesla! I ve seen a lot of rich person hate over his 1st performance award because the media simply said Elon Musk just got paid $$$$$ and a bunch of people went crazy about the Rich CEO Gets Richer argument. Most of the articles failed to point out that Elon is on a 100% compensation structure he makes $0 salary 0 cash bonuses and 0 time-based vested equity. This is extremely uncommon for executive contracts executives want to ensure they get paid no matter what happens to their company. The fact that Elon only makes money when his company makes money is not only a great structure for Tesla it s an awesome way for Elon to show he s in it to win it. I m not trying to start a debate about Tesla wages minimum wages etc just pointing out that it s something that Elon and Tesla did that I respect very much. Here s Tesla s statement: Elon actually earned $0 in total compensation from Tesla in 2018 and any reporting otherwise is incorrect and misleading. Unlike other CEOs Elon receives no salary no cash bonuses and no equity that simply vests by the passage of time. His only compensation is a completely at-risk performance award that was specifically designed with ambitious milestones such as doubling Tesla s current market capitalization from approximately $40 billion to $100 billion. As a result Elon s entire compensation is directly tied to the long-term success of Tesla and its shareholders and none of the equity from his 2018 performance package has vested.
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Sounds right.
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hqhn1y
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Side benefit to Tesla cooler garage! I moved in to a new house about 4 years ago. This is my first house with a 2 car garage that I could actually park in. The garage door is insulated but faces directly towards the afternoon sun and it would get blazing hot inside. I thought that the insulated door just wasn t really helping and I was looking around for any solution I could find. It got to the point where I was trying to figure out how I could add an exhaust fan of some sort. I bought my first Tesla in Dec 2019 and this summer I have noticed the garage isn t heating up like it had with my ICE car. I never realized how much heat my ICE car was putting out after driving it around. Turns out the insulated door was doing its job perfectly and was helping to keep all that hot air in. I guess in hindsight it should have been obvious but the difference is amazing. Just another plus to owning a Tesla!
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For a second there I thought you were going to say that you were just blasting the Tesla s AC in the garage with the windows down haha
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*cries in Texan*
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hqhn1y
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Side benefit to Tesla cooler garage! I moved in to a new house about 4 years ago. This is my first house with a 2 car garage that I could actually park in. The garage door is insulated but faces directly towards the afternoon sun and it would get blazing hot inside. I thought that the insulated door just wasn t really helping and I was looking around for any solution I could find. It got to the point where I was trying to figure out how I could add an exhaust fan of some sort. I bought my first Tesla in Dec 2019 and this summer I have noticed the garage isn t heating up like it had with my ICE car. I never realized how much heat my ICE car was putting out after driving it around. Turns out the insulated door was doing its job perfectly and was helping to keep all that hot air in. I guess in hindsight it should have been obvious but the difference is amazing. Just another plus to owning a Tesla!
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For a second there I thought you were going to say that you were just blasting the Tesla s AC in the garage with the windows down haha
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You ll notice that long charges will increase the temp as the cooling fans engage. That heat and energy needs to go somewhere. But yes cooler than ICE.
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hr2aki
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Fat Guy in a Model Y Hi there everyone! I am seriously considering a Model Y for my next car purchase. However since I have not been able to sit in one yet I am concerned as to its comfort for larger people. I am currently 6 2 and am obese at over 400lbs. I ve sat in a Model S a couple of times before and I was totally NOT comfortable. My wife and I currently share a 2020 Toyota Prius though and I am quite comfortable in it with the driver s seat all the way down and back. The only hiccup is sometimes I hit the horn trying to exit the driver s side. Are there any other fellow fat folks here that can speak to the Model Y s comfort on the interior? Everything I ve read watched has suggested the headroom won t be an issue. I am just worried about being able to fit behind the wheel. Thanks so much for any replies in advance. Hope everyone has a wonderful day and stays safe out there!
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Can we make a show by this name?
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You might be better suited for model X seats which I believe are wider with less aggressive bolstering (I could be wrong). If you didn t like the model S seats I m sure you definitely won t like the model 3 or model y seats. I m a very average sized guy (5 10” 175lbs) and I find my model 3 seats to feel a bit “huggy” sometimes.
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hr2aki
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Fat Guy in a Model Y Hi there everyone! I am seriously considering a Model Y for my next car purchase. However since I have not been able to sit in one yet I am concerned as to its comfort for larger people. I am currently 6 2 and am obese at over 400lbs. I ve sat in a Model S a couple of times before and I was totally NOT comfortable. My wife and I currently share a 2020 Toyota Prius though and I am quite comfortable in it with the driver s seat all the way down and back. The only hiccup is sometimes I hit the horn trying to exit the driver s side. Are there any other fellow fat folks here that can speak to the Model Y s comfort on the interior? Everything I ve read watched has suggested the headroom won t be an issue. I am just worried about being able to fit behind the wheel. Thanks so much for any replies in advance. Hope everyone has a wonderful day and stays safe out there!
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Can we make a show by this name?
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I d go try and sit in one before making the purchase. I m 6 4 and my Model 3 has the most uncomfortable seats of any car I ve owned....it s my only complaint with the car.
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hr2aki
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Fat Guy in a Model Y Hi there everyone! I am seriously considering a Model Y for my next car purchase. However since I have not been able to sit in one yet I am concerned as to its comfort for larger people. I am currently 6 2 and am obese at over 400lbs. I ve sat in a Model S a couple of times before and I was totally NOT comfortable. My wife and I currently share a 2020 Toyota Prius though and I am quite comfortable in it with the driver s seat all the way down and back. The only hiccup is sometimes I hit the horn trying to exit the driver s side. Are there any other fellow fat folks here that can speak to the Model Y s comfort on the interior? Everything I ve read watched has suggested the headroom won t be an issue. I am just worried about being able to fit behind the wheel. Thanks so much for any replies in advance. Hope everyone has a wonderful day and stays safe out there!
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Can we make a show by this name?
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My buddy who is 6 3” 360 does fine in his model 3. My other buddy who is similar spent $3k on a new seat though. I d definitely go sit in one first.
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hr4c4p
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German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomous driving For those who dislike Tesla s statements on the current state of Autopilot Germany agrees with you. [https: in.reuters.com article us-tesla-autopilot-germany german-court-bans-tesla-ad-statements-related-to-autonomous-driving-idINKCN24F1T5](https: in.reuters.com article us-tesla-autopilot-germany german-court-bans-tesla-ad-statements-related-to-autonomous-driving-idINKCN24F1T5) & #x200B > FRANKFURT (Reuters) - Germany has banned Tesla from repeating what a court says are misleading advertising statements relating to the capabilities of the firm s driver assistance systems and to autonomous driving a Munich judge ruled on Tuesday. > > Tesla can appeal the ruling. > > The case was brought by Germany s Wettbewerbszentrale an industry sponsored body tasked with policing anti-competitive practices. > > The Munich court agreed with the industry body s assessment and banned Tesla Germany from including “full potential for autonomous driving” and “Autopilot inclusive” in its German advertising materials. > > It said such claims amounted to misleading business practices adding that the average buyer might be given the impression that the car could drive without human intervention and might suggest such a system was now legal on German roads. > > Tesla s autopilot system has drawn criticism from regulators including from the National Transportation Safety Board in the United States saying it lacks safeguards. > > Concerns have grown about assistance systems that can perform driving tasks for extended stretches with little or no human intervention tempting drivers to neglect their obligation to be in control of their vehicles at all times. > > Tesla has said it has informed customers that its automated driver assistance technology did not amount to a fully autonomous driving system. > > A spokeswoman for Tesla Germany was not immediately available to comment on Tuesday s ruling. > > Tesla s Chief Executive Elon Musk said this month the electric car manufacturer was close to making its cars capable of automated driving without any need for driver input so-called Level 5 autonomy. > > Reporting by Alexander Huebner
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> Tesla Autopilot was literally named after the term used in aviation. Also what about Autobahn!? https: mobile.twitter.com elonmusk status 1283111111609339904 Lol. Autobahn literally translates to car track but ok...
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Why is it advertised as full self driving if it really isnt yet?
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hrb0zs
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Model Y let me down on the hottest day of the year... Really bummed out and a little disappointed. Was waiting in line for an iced coffee when the AC fan started surging on Auto - going from 8 to 10 down to 1 back to 8 etc...then it started blowing hot air. After about 10 seconds it cut out completely and [these errors appeared](https: i.imgur.com nJxJWEv.jpg?2). Thankfully I was able to get make the 30-minute drive home in 95+ degree weather. I ve been having intermittent issues with the AC not blowing ice cold but I was told thats how the car works and lived with it. Now this. I get that being on the bleeding edge means that you have to deal with issues but it is still disappointing to be let down by something like this. I m in touch with the Service Center (which is an exercise in futility) as well as roadside assistance. Any tips would be greatly appreciated! ***Edit 7 15*** - Tesla sent a tow truck to get the car and bring it back to the Service Center. This went off without a hitch as scheduled. Interesting note when we popped the tow hook panel on the front bumper the red and black wires were uncomfortably close to one another on the panel. I didn t get a chance to inspect to see if the wires had arced or not but will definitely bring that up when the service center reaches out.
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Shutting down completely while basically idling is unexpected and you should seek service but there was some fruitful discussion [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments hoaxxs 2_week_old_model_y_ac_stopped_working_driving ) about how the HVAC system can get overloaded while supercharging in extreme hot ambient temperatures and start blowing hot air.
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When did you get the car?
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hrb0zs
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Model Y let me down on the hottest day of the year... Really bummed out and a little disappointed. Was waiting in line for an iced coffee when the AC fan started surging on Auto - going from 8 to 10 down to 1 back to 8 etc...then it started blowing hot air. After about 10 seconds it cut out completely and [these errors appeared](https: i.imgur.com nJxJWEv.jpg?2). Thankfully I was able to get make the 30-minute drive home in 95+ degree weather. I ve been having intermittent issues with the AC not blowing ice cold but I was told thats how the car works and lived with it. Now this. I get that being on the bleeding edge means that you have to deal with issues but it is still disappointing to be let down by something like this. I m in touch with the Service Center (which is an exercise in futility) as well as roadside assistance. Any tips would be greatly appreciated! ***Edit 7 15*** - Tesla sent a tow truck to get the car and bring it back to the Service Center. This went off without a hitch as scheduled. Interesting note when we popped the tow hook panel on the front bumper the red and black wires were uncomfortably close to one another on the panel. I didn t get a chance to inspect to see if the wires had arced or not but will definitely bring that up when the service center reaches out.
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When the Model 3 came out there were loads of problems with AC failing due to a software bug (that apparently was related to Bluetooth in the end). It was nearly 100 and I had to drive 5 hours. I called Tesla roadside and they said that was unacceptable and offered to have it transported home and a rental car if I wanted. I m not sure if they re still that generous but at least in my anecdotal evidence Tesla considers a lack of AC in 100 degree weather undrivable .
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When did you get the car?
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hrb0zs
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Model Y let me down on the hottest day of the year... Really bummed out and a little disappointed. Was waiting in line for an iced coffee when the AC fan started surging on Auto - going from 8 to 10 down to 1 back to 8 etc...then it started blowing hot air. After about 10 seconds it cut out completely and [these errors appeared](https: i.imgur.com nJxJWEv.jpg?2). Thankfully I was able to get make the 30-minute drive home in 95+ degree weather. I ve been having intermittent issues with the AC not blowing ice cold but I was told thats how the car works and lived with it. Now this. I get that being on the bleeding edge means that you have to deal with issues but it is still disappointing to be let down by something like this. I m in touch with the Service Center (which is an exercise in futility) as well as roadside assistance. Any tips would be greatly appreciated! ***Edit 7 15*** - Tesla sent a tow truck to get the car and bring it back to the Service Center. This went off without a hitch as scheduled. Interesting note when we popped the tow hook panel on the front bumper the red and black wires were uncomfortably close to one another on the panel. I didn t get a chance to inspect to see if the wires had arced or not but will definitely bring that up when the service center reaches out.
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Yuck sorry to hear this and sorry everybody here is so defensive. There s definitely an AC limitation to these cars. Hopefully this is something they could resolve with a software fix. I d rather have major power limits with mediocre AC than a car with no AC at all especially in Arizona.
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When did you get the car?
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hrf6wv
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2020 Model 3 vs 2020 Model S In approximately three months I ll need to begin driving back and forth on a ~500 mile weekly commute. I m pretty set on purchasing a Tesla but torn between the Model 3 and the Model S. I should add that I m currently driving a 2007 Nissan Altima with the Oil-leaking-ghost-in-the-wires-premium-gas-only-21mpg package. I ve read several forum and reddit posts that compare the 3 and the S but they re all from two or more years back. I m hoping that this group could give me an up-to-date comparison between the two in their current forms. Here are some points for consideration: - Safety is of utmost concern as I imagine many of my commutes will begin on icy roads at 5:00 AM (Point: Tie?) - Range is important as I d like to make the 250 mile one way trip without stopping and I will be traveling in cold climates (Point: Model S?) - I m used to driving a larger car and I definitely noticed the difference between my 2001 Sentra and my 2007 Altima when I switched. Truth be told I d be looking for a GMC Yukon XL if Tesla made one. (Point: Semi?) Basically I m trying to understand if getting the bigger rangier subjectively better looking Model S is worth the $28k I ll need to shell out.
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you aren t going to be able to do a 250 mile trip in cold weather in the 3. You will need a Raven S to do that reliably
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This might be one of the first “new vs new” posts I ve seen which basically boils down to: what can you afford? Most compare a new Model 3 to a used Model S at the same price point which most refer the Model 3. In this instance I d argue you get a lot more for your money with a Performance Model 3 or a Model 3 in general. Unless you need the space or range (between charges) I d save a few bucks and get a Model 3.
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hrf6wv
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2020 Model 3 vs 2020 Model S In approximately three months I ll need to begin driving back and forth on a ~500 mile weekly commute. I m pretty set on purchasing a Tesla but torn between the Model 3 and the Model S. I should add that I m currently driving a 2007 Nissan Altima with the Oil-leaking-ghost-in-the-wires-premium-gas-only-21mpg package. I ve read several forum and reddit posts that compare the 3 and the S but they re all from two or more years back. I m hoping that this group could give me an up-to-date comparison between the two in their current forms. Here are some points for consideration: - Safety is of utmost concern as I imagine many of my commutes will begin on icy roads at 5:00 AM (Point: Tie?) - Range is important as I d like to make the 250 mile one way trip without stopping and I will be traveling in cold climates (Point: Model S?) - I m used to driving a larger car and I definitely noticed the difference between my 2001 Sentra and my 2007 Altima when I switched. Truth be told I d be looking for a GMC Yukon XL if Tesla made one. (Point: Semi?) Basically I m trying to understand if getting the bigger rangier subjectively better looking Model S is worth the $28k I ll need to shell out.
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you aren t going to be able to do a 250 mile trip in cold weather in the 3. You will need a Raven S to do that reliably
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Test drive is the best way to find out. I love my Model 3 but I would ve gone for the S if I had the extra cash.
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hrf6wv
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2020 Model 3 vs 2020 Model S In approximately three months I ll need to begin driving back and forth on a ~500 mile weekly commute. I m pretty set on purchasing a Tesla but torn between the Model 3 and the Model S. I should add that I m currently driving a 2007 Nissan Altima with the Oil-leaking-ghost-in-the-wires-premium-gas-only-21mpg package. I ve read several forum and reddit posts that compare the 3 and the S but they re all from two or more years back. I m hoping that this group could give me an up-to-date comparison between the two in their current forms. Here are some points for consideration: - Safety is of utmost concern as I imagine many of my commutes will begin on icy roads at 5:00 AM (Point: Tie?) - Range is important as I d like to make the 250 mile one way trip without stopping and I will be traveling in cold climates (Point: Model S?) - I m used to driving a larger car and I definitely noticed the difference between my 2001 Sentra and my 2007 Altima when I switched. Truth be told I d be looking for a GMC Yukon XL if Tesla made one. (Point: Semi?) Basically I m trying to understand if getting the bigger rangier subjectively better looking Model S is worth the $28k I ll need to shell out.
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you aren t going to be able to do a 250 mile trip in cold weather in the 3. You will need a Raven S to do that reliably
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As a person who doesnt like the S at all you should get the S.
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hrfmi7
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Newbies take note: Plastic protector still on the B pillar I got my Model 3 about 5 weeks ago and I LOVE IT hands down the best car I ve ever owned and I m very much a car person. So imagine my surprise today when I noticed weird swirls on my b pillar (exterior) all around the camera. I tried to buff it out and I scratched it! I freaked the hell out! Then I realized that the dang plastic protector was still on the b pillar and that was what had swirls scratches. Peeled it off 5 weeks into ownership. It did leave some residue but I m assuming that was from weeks of driving in sun and rain with it on. I m going to clean it off with isopropanol at home. I wonder what else I haven t noticed yet....
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Well don t feel bad I just went and check yep plastic is still there!!! F me I picked up my car 6 months ago :(
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Door sill plates sun visor mirrors center console and touchscreen all have protective plastic too. Pretty sure I got mine off the B pillars but now I have to check!
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hrmb50
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[Discussion] Anti-S X sentiment on this subreddit It seems any time anyone posts about potentially purchasing an S or X the discussion gets immediately brigaded by people pushing for them to buy the 3 Y instead and criticizing the S X. Similarly posts critical of the 3 Y tend to get downvoted to oblivion. Each car meets different needs. Each comes with a different perceived level of luxury cachet. Each handles a little differently and has its own pluses and minuses. I for one would like to see a little more fairness toward peoples opinions and less of the blind downvoting of things simply because they pertain to the car you didn t get. Discuss.
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That happens usually when people are asking if they should buy an older S X because that s all they can afford. Expensive cars require expensive maintenance which is why those people get recommendations to buy a 3 Y instead. Makes sense...
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I own neither but I can see where people are coming from until recently M3 Y had the charge speed advantage better bang for buck and tech compared to a used s x.( which is alot of what I see used S vs M 3 should I buy posts.)If buying new and price isnt a concern then the S X are outstanding vehicles.
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hrmb50
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[Discussion] Anti-S X sentiment on this subreddit It seems any time anyone posts about potentially purchasing an S or X the discussion gets immediately brigaded by people pushing for them to buy the 3 Y instead and criticizing the S X. Similarly posts critical of the 3 Y tend to get downvoted to oblivion. Each car meets different needs. Each comes with a different perceived level of luxury cachet. Each handles a little differently and has its own pluses and minuses. I for one would like to see a little more fairness toward peoples opinions and less of the blind downvoting of things simply because they pertain to the car you didn t get. Discuss.
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Release the truck and let s really get this conversation going.
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I for one would like it very much if people didn t try to control how the internet thinks and behaves. Not only is it *crushingly* futile it pollutes the sub with meta posts.
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hrmb50
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[Discussion] Anti-S X sentiment on this subreddit It seems any time anyone posts about potentially purchasing an S or X the discussion gets immediately brigaded by people pushing for them to buy the 3 Y instead and criticizing the S X. Similarly posts critical of the 3 Y tend to get downvoted to oblivion. Each car meets different needs. Each comes with a different perceived level of luxury cachet. Each handles a little differently and has its own pluses and minuses. I for one would like to see a little more fairness toward peoples opinions and less of the blind downvoting of things simply because they pertain to the car you didn t get. Discuss.
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Release the truck and let s really get this conversation going.
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I own neither but I can see where people are coming from until recently M3 Y had the charge speed advantage better bang for buck and tech compared to a used s x.( which is alot of what I see used S vs M 3 should I buy posts.)If buying new and price isnt a concern then the S X are outstanding vehicles.
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hrvnuo
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Teslas are great when someone has to sit in the car because doctor s offices don t let the patient bring anyone else in Took someone with me. One of us had to sit in the car. I partially insisted we take my car because I had no idea how this was going to go down with a gas car that s going to get stupid hot when it s already 85F outside. Made sure it had plenty of charge to sit. Wound up getting 220 Wh mi in my Model 3 over 36 driven miles (part lighted part highway). Sitting in the car for 1.5 hours with the AC on barely used like 2-3 miles. Kinda felt for the other people in the parking lot with their cars on. No way you could sit with the engine off. My interior got close to 90 within a few minutes with the AC off. Hadn t driven the thing in 4 months but I still love it after almost 2 years and it just keeps showing more practical uses for things you can t easily do with a gas car.
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It s summer in Texas - the car pretty much stays in either drive (full AC) or dog mode (parked). ICE folks likely don t realize the greatness of this simple feature.
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It doesn t exactly take a lot of gas to idle with the AC on.
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hrvnuo
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Teslas are great when someone has to sit in the car because doctor s offices don t let the patient bring anyone else in Took someone with me. One of us had to sit in the car. I partially insisted we take my car because I had no idea how this was going to go down with a gas car that s going to get stupid hot when it s already 85F outside. Made sure it had plenty of charge to sit. Wound up getting 220 Wh mi in my Model 3 over 36 driven miles (part lighted part highway). Sitting in the car for 1.5 hours with the AC on barely used like 2-3 miles. Kinda felt for the other people in the parking lot with their cars on. No way you could sit with the engine off. My interior got close to 90 within a few minutes with the AC off. Hadn t driven the thing in 4 months but I still love it after almost 2 years and it just keeps showing more practical uses for things you can t easily do with a gas car.
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It s summer in Texas - the car pretty much stays in either drive (full AC) or dog mode (parked). ICE folks likely don t realize the greatness of this simple feature.
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Am I missing something? What disadvantage does a gas car have here? If you need the AC just start the engine.
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hrvnuo
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Teslas are great when someone has to sit in the car because doctor s offices don t let the patient bring anyone else in Took someone with me. One of us had to sit in the car. I partially insisted we take my car because I had no idea how this was going to go down with a gas car that s going to get stupid hot when it s already 85F outside. Made sure it had plenty of charge to sit. Wound up getting 220 Wh mi in my Model 3 over 36 driven miles (part lighted part highway). Sitting in the car for 1.5 hours with the AC on barely used like 2-3 miles. Kinda felt for the other people in the parking lot with their cars on. No way you could sit with the engine off. My interior got close to 90 within a few minutes with the AC off. Hadn t driven the thing in 4 months but I still love it after almost 2 years and it just keeps showing more practical uses for things you can t easily do with a gas car.
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Spent two hours in the parking lot of an urgent care last weekend as a friend needed stitches. A little *Hamilton* on the big screen helped pass the time.
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It doesn t exactly take a lot of gas to idle with the AC on.
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hsg0n1
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Windows Opened in the Rain!!! Edit: I m not going to chicken out and delete the post. But I ve been educated on the Vent feature. I never knew that opens windows I thought it blew a fan with external air. Still pissed more at myself. We REALLY need the app to vibrate or flash a red notice at us when a window is down and no one is in the car. ~~This is fucking bullshit! Hey Elon! Maybe this kind of shit is acceptable in Freemont but in South Louisiana it rains every other hour!~~ ~~All four windows mysteriously rolled themselves open over night and I wake up to find my interior soaked. WTF!!!!???~~ & #x200B https: preview.redd.it roz29uj1o9b51.jpg?width=4032& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=885b39cd0ace925655e5d02d1286c76d3e34a927 https: preview.redd.it zujvusyyn9b51.jpg?width=4032& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=a92b601a31b5d829c81e97fda5ad4cc516866473
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> I m not going to chicken out and delete the post. Way to own it. Mad respect.
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Oh - as a comment to your edit... I 10 000% agree that the windows should immediately close if the car is parked and the rain sensor is triggered. I mean hell you could even make it so if weather radar indicates rain within 5 miles of your location... or make it alert on your phone if your windows are open and there s rain in the forecast... There s a ton of ways you could get it to work. I tooooooooootaly agree. I also think I was confused the first time I saw vent . The window Icon with vent was confusing - A vent is for the HVAC system output but the picture was a window. It s not intuitive. It s a confusing word to put on that button. But I also can t think of a better one off the top of my head. And that totally sucks about your interior.
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hsg0n1
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Windows Opened in the Rain!!! Edit: I m not going to chicken out and delete the post. But I ve been educated on the Vent feature. I never knew that opens windows I thought it blew a fan with external air. Still pissed more at myself. We REALLY need the app to vibrate or flash a red notice at us when a window is down and no one is in the car. ~~This is fucking bullshit! Hey Elon! Maybe this kind of shit is acceptable in Freemont but in South Louisiana it rains every other hour!~~ ~~All four windows mysteriously rolled themselves open over night and I wake up to find my interior soaked. WTF!!!!???~~ & #x200B https: preview.redd.it roz29uj1o9b51.jpg?width=4032& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=885b39cd0ace925655e5d02d1286c76d3e34a927 https: preview.redd.it zujvusyyn9b51.jpg?width=4032& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=a92b601a31b5d829c81e97fda5ad4cc516866473
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> I m not going to chicken out and delete the post. Way to own it. Mad respect.
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you may have hit the vent button on your app
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hsg0n1
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Windows Opened in the Rain!!! Edit: I m not going to chicken out and delete the post. But I ve been educated on the Vent feature. I never knew that opens windows I thought it blew a fan with external air. Still pissed more at myself. We REALLY need the app to vibrate or flash a red notice at us when a window is down and no one is in the car. ~~This is fucking bullshit! Hey Elon! Maybe this kind of shit is acceptable in Freemont but in South Louisiana it rains every other hour!~~ ~~All four windows mysteriously rolled themselves open over night and I wake up to find my interior soaked. WTF!!!!???~~ & #x200B https: preview.redd.it roz29uj1o9b51.jpg?width=4032& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=885b39cd0ace925655e5d02d1286c76d3e34a927 https: preview.redd.it zujvusyyn9b51.jpg?width=4032& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=a92b601a31b5d829c81e97fda5ad4cc516866473
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> I m not going to chicken out and delete the post. Way to own it. Mad respect.
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Maybe your kid or even you accidental pushed the vent button? My wife s phone was mysteriously turning off the data connection. Turns out one of our kids has the magical ability to hit just the right buttons to turn it off.
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hsibth
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2020.28.x Software Update Megathread **2020.28.x** has now rolled out to more than 5% of the fleet and working its way out to more vehicles! Learn more about Tesla vehicles updates [here](https: www.tesla.com support software-updates). **[Release Notes Highlights](https: teslascope.com teslapedia software 2020.28.2)**: - Sirius XM Improvements (Model S X) - +5 mph (10 km h) over the speed limit w Traffic Light and Stop Sign Control - 250kW Charging (Model S X) - Range Display Accuracy Increased (Model S X) - Passenger Face Vent (disables if no one detected in seat to increase efficiency. - Suspension Improvements (Model S X) - Polish Language Added - Tesla Arcade removed (Hong Kong) due to regulatory limitations - [Fixes “First Attempt Failure” Summon bug](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments hzr7pp can_anyone_else_quickly_confirm_the_summon_bug ) Track your vehicle stats and see past updates: - [Software Updates Wiki](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates) \\- Past Megathreads + other information. - Teslascope - Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. - TeslaFi - Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. Discover anything specific? Such as new Autopilot capabilities changes in the overall UI or known bugs that have been fixed share your findings here! Keep in mind some features may or may not be available based on your Model Model Year MCU Version Autopilot Hardware Version or Geographic Location. Software versions may not be in order and are deployed in batches.
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> Passenger Face Vent (disables if no one detected in seat to increase efficiency. Could this possibly mean that the passenger vent can be disabled manually? My SO would be so happy...
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non-fsd on 20.17 (
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hsibth
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2020.28.x Software Update Megathread **2020.28.x** has now rolled out to more than 5% of the fleet and working its way out to more vehicles! Learn more about Tesla vehicles updates [here](https: www.tesla.com support software-updates). **[Release Notes Highlights](https: teslascope.com teslapedia software 2020.28.2)**: - Sirius XM Improvements (Model S X) - +5 mph (10 km h) over the speed limit w Traffic Light and Stop Sign Control - 250kW Charging (Model S X) - Range Display Accuracy Increased (Model S X) - Passenger Face Vent (disables if no one detected in seat to increase efficiency. - Suspension Improvements (Model S X) - Polish Language Added - Tesla Arcade removed (Hong Kong) due to regulatory limitations - [Fixes “First Attempt Failure” Summon bug](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments hzr7pp can_anyone_else_quickly_confirm_the_summon_bug ) Track your vehicle stats and see past updates: - [Software Updates Wiki](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates) \\- Past Megathreads + other information. - Teslascope - Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. - TeslaFi - Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. Discover anything specific? Such as new Autopilot capabilities changes in the overall UI or known bugs that have been fixed share your findings here! Keep in mind some features may or may not be available based on your Model Model Year MCU Version Autopilot Hardware Version or Geographic Location. Software versions may not be in order and are deployed in batches.
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The +5 mph on FSD Taffic Lights was sorely needed. Can t wait for +10 and I ll actually enjoy using it more. Very annoying to keep the foot pressed to keep up with traffic.
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non-fsd on 20.17 (
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hsibth
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2020.28.x Software Update Megathread **2020.28.x** has now rolled out to more than 5% of the fleet and working its way out to more vehicles! Learn more about Tesla vehicles updates [here](https: www.tesla.com support software-updates). **[Release Notes Highlights](https: teslascope.com teslapedia software 2020.28.2)**: - Sirius XM Improvements (Model S X) - +5 mph (10 km h) over the speed limit w Traffic Light and Stop Sign Control - 250kW Charging (Model S X) - Range Display Accuracy Increased (Model S X) - Passenger Face Vent (disables if no one detected in seat to increase efficiency. - Suspension Improvements (Model S X) - Polish Language Added - Tesla Arcade removed (Hong Kong) due to regulatory limitations - [Fixes “First Attempt Failure” Summon bug](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments hzr7pp can_anyone_else_quickly_confirm_the_summon_bug ) Track your vehicle stats and see past updates: - [Software Updates Wiki](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates) \\- Past Megathreads + other information. - Teslascope - Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. - TeslaFi - Track Software Trips and Control your vehicle. Discover anything specific? Such as new Autopilot capabilities changes in the overall UI or known bugs that have been fixed share your findings here! Keep in mind some features may or may not be available based on your Model Model Year MCU Version Autopilot Hardware Version or Geographic Location. Software versions may not be in order and are deployed in batches.
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I feel so betrayed only getting 2020.24.6.9 instead of this update when I m on advance updates. :(
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non-fsd on 20.17 (
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hstn2l
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I never should ve factored in gasoline cost savings when making the purchase decision... I did a simple analysis before buying my model 3 and found that I would pay about a third as much for electricity versus what I was spending on gas.... A month later I have realized I m actually spending MORE on electricity than I used to on gas with my ICE car. I failed to factor in that I would be driving the model 3 more than three times as much lol...just such an amazing car that almost daily I ve been going on joy rides for the hell of it.
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I know your post was a bit in jest but have you checked with your electricity provider to see if they have special rates for EVs at night? Mine goes down to $0.014 from 11 pm to 7 am. That s also when I throw my laundry in the (electric) dryer and run the dishwasher. :-)
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FYI - 2-3x is if you are replacing a Prius. It s really more like 5x for most sedans and a bit more for crossovers. If you compare cars in the same performance class it s like 10x savings.
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hstn2l
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I never should ve factored in gasoline cost savings when making the purchase decision... I did a simple analysis before buying my model 3 and found that I would pay about a third as much for electricity versus what I was spending on gas.... A month later I have realized I m actually spending MORE on electricity than I used to on gas with my ICE car. I failed to factor in that I would be driving the model 3 more than three times as much lol...just such an amazing car that almost daily I ve been going on joy rides for the hell of it.
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I know your post was a bit in jest but have you checked with your electricity provider to see if they have special rates for EVs at night? Mine goes down to $0.014 from 11 pm to 7 am. That s also when I throw my laundry in the (electric) dryer and run the dishwasher. :-)
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nice! try calculating it as $ per Mi you would be amazed!
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hstn2l
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I never should ve factored in gasoline cost savings when making the purchase decision... I did a simple analysis before buying my model 3 and found that I would pay about a third as much for electricity versus what I was spending on gas.... A month later I have realized I m actually spending MORE on electricity than I used to on gas with my ICE car. I failed to factor in that I would be driving the model 3 more than three times as much lol...just such an amazing car that almost daily I ve been going on joy rides for the hell of it.
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I agree with the OP s direction - at this particular moment one does not purchase an electric vehicle purely for the cost savings. If all I cared about was the total cost to get from point A to point B then I would have purchased a 2003 Honda Civic hatchback and covered it with liability only insurance. Also agree with OP that these cars are fun to drive. I drive mine (M3P) like I stole it - and that s why I have to look the other way when people post about how long tires last!
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FYI - 2-3x is if you are replacing a Prius. It s really more like 5x for most sedans and a bit more for crossovers. If you compare cars in the same performance class it s like 10x savings.
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ht4qjq
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If your Tesla tire won t stay balanced this could be why Had the tire balanced 4 times finally got it replaced. P.s. Tesla said they wouldn t warranty it and my car only has 19k on it. Called Michelin directly and took it to discount and didn t pay much for the tire whatsoever. http: imgur.com a 3Wow0pG
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I just replaced my stock tires with Bridgestone Quiet Trax. Night and day difference much quieter. Would recommend.
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I dont understand what is that foam?
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ht7kkt
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Updated to 2020.28.2 and Now My Model 3 Won t Charge Updated yesterday afternoon and afterwards my Model 3 Tesla won t charge. I get notifications “Charging Stopped” or “Charging Reduced disconnect and try again”. Tried a neighbor s charge and got same results. Next Service Center appointment is 2 weeks!
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The car needs a complete reboot (not this brake+steering wheel type of restart) or long sleep time as sometimes the software for the charging board can freeze after an update. I had this 7 months ago as well. AC charging was not possible.. my solution was driving to a SuC (tried DC loading there worked) and after getting home the car got the chance to sleep for several hours. After that charging AC worked again.
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Call the service center or email them. They may have you bring that in immediately
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ht7kkt
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Updated to 2020.28.2 and Now My Model 3 Won t Charge Updated yesterday afternoon and afterwards my Model 3 Tesla won t charge. I get notifications “Charging Stopped” or “Charging Reduced disconnect and try again”. Tried a neighbor s charge and got same results. Next Service Center appointment is 2 weeks!
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The car needs a complete reboot (not this brake+steering wheel type of restart) or long sleep time as sometimes the software for the charging board can freeze after an update. I had this 7 months ago as well. AC charging was not possible.. my solution was driving to a SuC (tried DC loading there worked) and after getting home the car got the chance to sleep for several hours. After that charging AC worked again.
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Try making a roadside assistance appointment
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htjfls
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Okay the Model 3 is AWESOME for drive-in movie theaters The car was so much better than I expected for this (niche) use case. The seats are really comfortable. You can move them really far back and low. Movies sound awesome with the premium audio setup. And of course the biggest advantage: you can leave AC running the entire time in whisper silence! And then you can drive home with autopilot (mostly) taking the wheel!
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Yep been there done that! It s AWESOME for sure. Never have to worry about a dead battery....unlike ICE cars.
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Also great for drive-up dining!
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htjfls
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Okay the Model 3 is AWESOME for drive-in movie theaters The car was so much better than I expected for this (niche) use case. The seats are really comfortable. You can move them really far back and low. Movies sound awesome with the premium audio setup. And of course the biggest advantage: you can leave AC running the entire time in whisper silence! And then you can drive home with autopilot (mostly) taking the wheel!
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I get frustrated at the inability to shut the screen off and the need to interact with the car once every 30-45 minutes to avoid it shutting down altogether. There should really be a “drive in” mode added.
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Also great for drive-up dining!
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htlfhm
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For those planning on getting CyberTruck how many are going to wait awhile after release to purchase I m planning on buying one and have already started adjusting my finances so I can pay cash (still undecided if I m going to keep my model 3). So far it seems every new model Tesla comes out with is plagued with problems on release. The cyber truck should n t be an exception to this so I m wondering how many of you are going to wait and see.
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They cybertruck might be far worse considering a lot is different.
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With the reservation backlog (600k-ish?) it will likely be several years of production before my reservation turns into a pre-order. I m not too worried.
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htthw6
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2.8 yrs old and my model S won t super charge any more I had heard about this happening - after some undetermined amount of miles charge-cycles superchargingKWh whoknowswhat.... your Tesla will get it s charge rate capped. Mine no longer will charge faster than 80kW. Most of the time it tops out around 74kW. Today I saw 80kW after driving from 99% down to 15% SOC. For a while I just thought I was having bad luck at SC s getting some old SC s that can t push the juice etc. But this has been happening for about 6 months now I think. I can t tell you how much this sucks. It nearly doubles the charging time. This seriously impacts road trips. Daily driving is no big deal I charge overnight at home most of the time. My car has about 55k miles on it and a fair amount of that (dunno how much but given I get free unlimited SC use it s at least half I would estimate) was supercharged. Anyone else get rate capped on their car yet? At how many miles did this happen? Anyone have high miles on a model S and still able to charge at full speed? Background: Sept. 2017 Model S with HW2.5 2wd 75kWh battery. The highest SC rate I ever saw in this car was last summer: I charged at a Kettleman City CA on I-5 and saw a max of 128kW charging rate. Has anyone heard of Tesla un-doing this charge-rate cap for anyone? I think I d rather sacrifice battery life or range (mine is already down to 220mi from an as-new range of 248mi) in favor of charging speed. Should I complain to Tesla? Or am I (as I suspect) well within expected battery performance?
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Yes. Well known. Same age identical mileage max charge rate 81-82kW 75kW variant. Perfectly normal unfortunately. Essentially you will be permanently throttled on certain pack variants after approximately 25-30K miles of DC fast charging and the pack computer has a counter. This cannot be turned off or reset by Tesla. The SC can and will confirm with enough harassment the reason for your reduced speeds. They did for me. If you get a new pack due to failure this process will begin all over again. Most of us with this issue have the legacy 8yr unlimited warranties. Maybe you ll get lucky. Frustrating indeed but does not double the charging time and many other variants have also now been slowed for a variety of reasons including spontaneous combustion risk battery gate warranty claim reduction ect add to this all the various reasons people experience slower supercharging speeds in general including pack too hot or cold charger too hot or cold charger handle too hot shared stalls faulty charging stalls...and the matter becomes quite complex indeed. Legacy 75 variants are excellent road cars up to about 300 miles. If your regular trips exceed that you may want to consider other options. https: m.youtube.com watch?v=Qbl74bL0zGQ
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60k miles 2015 70d model s. I went to a supercharger by my office since they just installed the new ones and wanted to see what my old car could get for the speed. I saw 90+ but my soc didn t help and was at 40%. I also don t supercharger like ever unless I do road trips.
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htthw6
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2.8 yrs old and my model S won t super charge any more I had heard about this happening - after some undetermined amount of miles charge-cycles superchargingKWh whoknowswhat.... your Tesla will get it s charge rate capped. Mine no longer will charge faster than 80kW. Most of the time it tops out around 74kW. Today I saw 80kW after driving from 99% down to 15% SOC. For a while I just thought I was having bad luck at SC s getting some old SC s that can t push the juice etc. But this has been happening for about 6 months now I think. I can t tell you how much this sucks. It nearly doubles the charging time. This seriously impacts road trips. Daily driving is no big deal I charge overnight at home most of the time. My car has about 55k miles on it and a fair amount of that (dunno how much but given I get free unlimited SC use it s at least half I would estimate) was supercharged. Anyone else get rate capped on their car yet? At how many miles did this happen? Anyone have high miles on a model S and still able to charge at full speed? Background: Sept. 2017 Model S with HW2.5 2wd 75kWh battery. The highest SC rate I ever saw in this car was last summer: I charged at a Kettleman City CA on I-5 and saw a max of 128kW charging rate. Has anyone heard of Tesla un-doing this charge-rate cap for anyone? I think I d rather sacrifice battery life or range (mine is already down to 220mi from an as-new range of 248mi) in favor of charging speed. Should I complain to Tesla? Or am I (as I suspect) well within expected battery performance?
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Yeah this is awful. I have a Model S 75D that I took delivery of that same month and I m now worried about Tesla disabling my supercharging speed and my car randomly shutting down due to the eMMC failure. Not exactly the bright future of ownership I imagined when buying it. It d be one thing if Tesla made potential buyers aware of this limitation before making a purchasing decision and also gave them notice once charging was to be limited. But this happening with zero contact or acknowledgement and people suddenly having their plans affected when they get to the charger is ridiculous. Tesla should do better. They wooed us with the siren song of Free Supercharging for Life! but forgot to mention that they would be slowing it down at some secret date in the future with no notice to you.
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60k miles 2015 70d model s. I went to a supercharger by my office since they just installed the new ones and wanted to see what my old car could get for the speed. I saw 90+ but my soc didn t help and was at 40%. I also don t supercharger like ever unless I do road trips.
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htthw6
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2.8 yrs old and my model S won t super charge any more I had heard about this happening - after some undetermined amount of miles charge-cycles superchargingKWh whoknowswhat.... your Tesla will get it s charge rate capped. Mine no longer will charge faster than 80kW. Most of the time it tops out around 74kW. Today I saw 80kW after driving from 99% down to 15% SOC. For a while I just thought I was having bad luck at SC s getting some old SC s that can t push the juice etc. But this has been happening for about 6 months now I think. I can t tell you how much this sucks. It nearly doubles the charging time. This seriously impacts road trips. Daily driving is no big deal I charge overnight at home most of the time. My car has about 55k miles on it and a fair amount of that (dunno how much but given I get free unlimited SC use it s at least half I would estimate) was supercharged. Anyone else get rate capped on their car yet? At how many miles did this happen? Anyone have high miles on a model S and still able to charge at full speed? Background: Sept. 2017 Model S with HW2.5 2wd 75kWh battery. The highest SC rate I ever saw in this car was last summer: I charged at a Kettleman City CA on I-5 and saw a max of 128kW charging rate. Has anyone heard of Tesla un-doing this charge-rate cap for anyone? I think I d rather sacrifice battery life or range (mine is already down to 220mi from an as-new range of 248mi) in favor of charging speed. Should I complain to Tesla? Or am I (as I suspect) well within expected battery performance?
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Yeah this is awful. I have a Model S 75D that I took delivery of that same month and I m now worried about Tesla disabling my supercharging speed and my car randomly shutting down due to the eMMC failure. Not exactly the bright future of ownership I imagined when buying it. It d be one thing if Tesla made potential buyers aware of this limitation before making a purchasing decision and also gave them notice once charging was to be limited. But this happening with zero contact or acknowledgement and people suddenly having their plans affected when they get to the charger is ridiculous. Tesla should do better. They wooed us with the siren song of Free Supercharging for Life! but forgot to mention that they would be slowing it down at some secret date in the future with no notice to you.
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Damn I thought my 75D has been supercharging slow the past few months... guess now I know why
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hu7zzx
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Home charging during WFH Just got on new model y. Only taking very short trips these days what is a optimal charging strategy and everybody s opinion? should I let the battery get low and then plug it in or should I just plug it in every night? Sorry if this is a weird question but we just got the new car.
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Closer to 50% the better for the battery. HOWEVER anywhere between 30-80% has very little difference. We re talking a low single digit of difference over 10 to 15+ years here. Above 90% and below 10% is where you don t want to be at for an extended (several days or longer at a time) period of time. During road trips feel free to go 0-100% since you won t be in those areas for long. So make your decision based on that.
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So I always charge my Model LR RWD 3 to 90% every night. It s over 2 years old and has 26k miles. The estimated 100% is 306 miles. That being said I also bought Potenza tires at 21k and they lowered my efficiency by 5-10%.
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hu7zzx
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Home charging during WFH Just got on new model y. Only taking very short trips these days what is a optimal charging strategy and everybody s opinion? should I let the battery get low and then plug it in or should I just plug it in every night? Sorry if this is a weird question but we just got the new car.
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Closer to 50% the better for the battery. HOWEVER anywhere between 30-80% has very little difference. We re talking a low single digit of difference over 10 to 15+ years here. Above 90% and below 10% is where you don t want to be at for an extended (several days or longer at a time) period of time. During road trips feel free to go 0-100% since you won t be in those areas for long. So make your decision based on that.
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Charge if less than 60-70% to avoid unnecessary charge cycles Just a general maintenance thing to save your battery s long term life but you should charge every night it can take it.
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hu7zzx
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Home charging during WFH Just got on new model y. Only taking very short trips these days what is a optimal charging strategy and everybody s opinion? should I let the battery get low and then plug it in or should I just plug it in every night? Sorry if this is a weird question but we just got the new car.
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Closer to 50% the better for the battery. HOWEVER anywhere between 30-80% has very little difference. We re talking a low single digit of difference over 10 to 15+ years here. Above 90% and below 10% is where you don t want to be at for an extended (several days or longer at a time) period of time. During road trips feel free to go 0-100% since you won t be in those areas for long. So make your decision based on that.
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A plugged-in Tesla is a happy Tesla. Just plug him in every time you aren t driving. I heard 80% is optimal I tend to keep mine at 75%.
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hubyvi
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Sentry Cam huge design flaw Yesterday my Model 3 was hit while parked at a friend s house by a neighbor backing out. He drove off and didn t leave a note or even get out of his car. When my car was hit the Tesla s alarm when off and i got a notification from my phone. I rushed out within 30seconds to check on vehicle and disable alarm. Didn t notice damage until 2 hours later when I went to put stuff in trunk and leave for home (hit me behind left-rear wheel driver side). Checked Sentry footage and it showed an alarm Red notification dot where the event happened and saw exactly where when my vehicle was hit and saw licence plate of neighbor as well as him driving off. Accident happened at 2:08pm saw footage at 4:30pm. Spoke with neighbor he denied it but told him I had footage. Argued with me until i finally called cops. Cops came at 8pm (non emergency and slower due to covid). After cop left at 9pm I drove home. I started to check my Sentry footage from the model 3. I was blown away it was not saved. It showed footage of my drive home (dashcam) and other Sentry clips of people walking by at random parking lots (for few months out) BUT NO FOOTAGE FROM THE ALARM TRIGGERED EVENT. Since i didn t pull the footage immediately it was overridden. I have a 120gb ssd and shows 70gb free on it. Why does Tesla Sentry cam not save alarm triggered event footage?????? Why does it not fill up the empty drive space and then override the oldest footage that is not saved? It doesn t have footage from over 24hrs ago. Thank God my friend had house cameras which also caught the incident (need to send copy to police). But I m disappointed that Tesla Sentry mode didn t save that accident footage. For anyone reading this make sure to recover your footage asap. For any Tesla engineer reading this please save footage from alarm triggered events on storage drive (teslacam\\saved clips). TLDR my model 3 got hit triggered Sentry alarm event on my phone and car made alarm sounds. Teslacam footage help me identify person who hit me in car but when i got home to check footage off ssd it was gone.
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It is astonishing to me that it doesn t save particular Sentry clips to a saved folder especially if there s plenty of space left. *I know* no other car has this built-in capability but it d sure be nice if Tesla made sure stuff like this worked pretty well before releasing it.
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Have a camera recoding of the recording (with commentary) I made while waiting for police: https: app.box.com s r109lua7h26kmcksnou6u9tqskwmzdgc
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hubyvi
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Sentry Cam huge design flaw Yesterday my Model 3 was hit while parked at a friend s house by a neighbor backing out. He drove off and didn t leave a note or even get out of his car. When my car was hit the Tesla s alarm when off and i got a notification from my phone. I rushed out within 30seconds to check on vehicle and disable alarm. Didn t notice damage until 2 hours later when I went to put stuff in trunk and leave for home (hit me behind left-rear wheel driver side). Checked Sentry footage and it showed an alarm Red notification dot where the event happened and saw exactly where when my vehicle was hit and saw licence plate of neighbor as well as him driving off. Accident happened at 2:08pm saw footage at 4:30pm. Spoke with neighbor he denied it but told him I had footage. Argued with me until i finally called cops. Cops came at 8pm (non emergency and slower due to covid). After cop left at 9pm I drove home. I started to check my Sentry footage from the model 3. I was blown away it was not saved. It showed footage of my drive home (dashcam) and other Sentry clips of people walking by at random parking lots (for few months out) BUT NO FOOTAGE FROM THE ALARM TRIGGERED EVENT. Since i didn t pull the footage immediately it was overridden. I have a 120gb ssd and shows 70gb free on it. Why does Tesla Sentry cam not save alarm triggered event footage?????? Why does it not fill up the empty drive space and then override the oldest footage that is not saved? It doesn t have footage from over 24hrs ago. Thank God my friend had house cameras which also caught the incident (need to send copy to police). But I m disappointed that Tesla Sentry mode didn t save that accident footage. For anyone reading this make sure to recover your footage asap. For any Tesla engineer reading this please save footage from alarm triggered events on storage drive (teslacam\\saved clips). TLDR my model 3 got hit triggered Sentry alarm event on my phone and car made alarm sounds. Teslacam footage help me identify person who hit me in car but when i got home to check footage off ssd it was gone.
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It is astonishing to me that it doesn t save particular Sentry clips to a saved folder especially if there s plenty of space left. *I know* no other car has this built-in capability but it d sure be nice if Tesla made sure stuff like this worked pretty well before releasing it.
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Sentry clips should be saved in the sentry folder. Those won t be deleted until the drive is full.
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hupz2m
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2013 85kwh Model S vs 2020 Model Y Performance We purchased a Model S in 2013. It s been my daily driver for the past 7 years and \\~92 000 miles. We ve been happy enough with it that my wife decided to get a Tesla when it was time for her new car. She could have had an X or S but she picked the Y. We ve had it for a few weeks now and thought I would share some thoughts. **Short version:** No surprise a new Model Y is an overall better car than a 7 year old Model S. Of course you can get a used 2013 Tesla for less than a new Model Y so I guess the market agrees. That said money aside a new Model S is still the best Tesla IMHO. Obviously my wife disagrees. 😊 **Details:** **Buying delivery experience** – Buying our Model S in 2013 was a big deal. Pick up including the whole factory tour and someone patiently going over every detail. Buying the Model Y was the opposite. It was like click click wait 4 weeks go to pick up someone says ‘yep it s over there drive away. In some ways I preferred doing it that way but it s still a bit anti-climactic. **Initial quality** – We had several issues with our Model S to start with. Even some dings when we accepted delivery. Main issues covered by warranty over time but still. Given the quarter end rush and Model Y being new I expected more of the same. I spent at least 30 minutes looking for issues before we even took delivery. However I haven t been able to find a single issue with the Model Y. No problems at all over the last few weeks either functionally or cosmetically. The build quality seems solid all around. I know some folks have been complaining online but we have had zero issues so far (knock on wood). **Exterior design** – I still like my Model S better but honestly the Model Y looks great in person. Much better in person than online. Better than the X or 3 IMHO and my wife thinks it s the best looking Tesla. **Interior design** – Again I prefer the look of the interior of the Model S. The dual screen set up with the larger center screen makes the interior feel more complete and functional. That said the center screen on the Model Y is just fine and is surprisingly natural to drive with the one center console. The seats and seating position on the Model Y are much better. Not only are you physically sitting in a more comfortable position but the seats themselves are more comfortable. I understand newer Model S s have better seats but the 2013 seats are not great. That said easier to stretch out on a Model S given the increased size. I think storage is better in the Model S even though the total cubic feet may be better in the Y. Model Y is taller but Model S is wider and that seems more important for most stuff. There is less wind noise in the Model S but both are great. Visibility is better in the Y. **Driving experience** – Model Y is quicker on paper and NOTICEABLY quicker in person. Super fun to zip around and I would rather be in the Model Y both for long trips and around town. Autopilot is a plus but for me I only want to use it in stop and go traffic or on a long steady stretch of highway. Handling is great with the Y. Main area I would give the nod to the 2013 Model S is on sweeping high speed roads. Again with a new Model S I think the overall equation would change with more range faster speed better seats. **Battery** – The Performance Model Y w the Performance Upgrade Package and my 2013 Model S have almost the same range. When I bought the Model S the range was 266 miles. Since then it went to a top of 290 miles as Tesla pushed out improvements to battery management. Now it maxes around 284 and the Y with PUP is 280. Side note - I love driving by my neighbor every day who told me when I bought the Model S that I would have to buy a new battery pack in 3 years. 😊 **Value for money** – yeah Model Y. No question. **My next car** – So the wife gets the Model Y. Again she preferred it over a new Model S but personally I do not. For me my 2013 is still going strong it s paid off and I am in no hurry. By the time I need to replace it I think it will be between the nextgen Model S or a CyberTruck.
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This many years later and your battery is still at 284? That s tremendously impressive.
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Good write up. Is your 2013 Model S an AWD model? That could explain the performance difference with the Y.
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husp80
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Strangest Delivery Experience I got a call last Thursday from Tesla telling me my Model Y is here at the Ottawa service centre ready for delivery we scheduled to pick up the vehicle at 1 pm today. When I got there this afternoon and opened my app I had full control over everything like AC Window and trunk I honked through the app but heard nothing. Next thing I checked the location the car was sitting in a parking lot in west Chicago...Got someone on the phone from Telsa and he said there were some paperwork that needed to be done and couldn t just give me a free car 😡🤬. Still waiting for a call-back on when it can be delivered. I don t know what kind of chaos goes on at the back end for them to mess up this badly. I still have control over the car through the app though I can do the software update meanwhile I guess🤷♂️
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Can t you use Smart Summon to get the car to drive itself from Chicago to Ottawa? Oh wait the border is closed never mind.
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Ask to be put in touch with management if someone spoke to you like that after a CLEAR miscommunication from them.
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hvbiz2
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Tesla Finance has the worst support.. Ive been trying to early terminate my lease since May 1 to potentially get into a Model S or buy the Performance 3 Y. I reached out to Tesla Finance and they said i d get a quote within in 3 days I received it 10 days later. Once I got the quote and filled in the form to proceed with the turn in Ive not heard back from them in nearly a month. Ive called Tesla Finance almost everyday and the voice prompt says the same thing: “Unable to take your call”. Ive never experienced such poor service in the auto brands I ve owned ranging from Hondas to BMWs. Ive never felt so disregarded as a customer who is trying to stay loyal. Can anyone share tips on how to get in contact with someone
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I mean really this should just be Tesla < insert department here> has the worst support. Great products great when they work. But bonne chance if something goes wrong and particularly something that doesn t fit into their standard automated response.
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Lol wait until you try to repair one!
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hvqc1o
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Got a Job offer to Work at Tesla. I m Torn whether to commit fully. Hello. I m fairly young in my mid 20 s. I live in Michigan. I recently applied for Tesla a couple months back at the Fremont CA location just to see what happens and I ve gotten a email For a zoom interview for Tesla a week ago. I thought it was going to be a Individual zoom meeting but it ended up being a group of 20+ people for the sells pitch for the job and the recruiter answered our questions. It was kinda of red flag to me. They gave the people at the zoom meeting all a job offer pending pre-employment background and drug test. I already done my Drug test so I ve kinda soft committed but I still want to keep my options open. One thing I should mention. Where I currently stay I ve just gotten a job to the Big 3 in Michigan. I work for Ford but I ve only been there for 3 weeks as of today. Ford is considered one of the best jobs to have here in my area. Ford has a Union and the UAW here is very strong. I have a good resume background for Auto manufacturing. By no means I m a engineer. I m basically a production associate. The thing is that I ve always been a passionate about Tesla. I know for a fact I will give my all to Tesla if I work there. The problem is. I will have to relocate there which is I don t mind if I didn t already have a Job and nothing to lose. But me being in Ford makes it complicated. I know in at least 3 years I can make close to over 70K a year at Ford with more upside the more time I get there. They offer in house skill trades and a lot of others opportunities and benefits. Tesla s production starting pay is at 19 a hour which is more than what I make a Ford right now but the cost of living in California evens it out. They offer 6000 dollars towards they stock and Health and Dental day 1. Tesla s is non union which is good and bad. Only thing that s in the air for me is the long term opportunities there do they offer programs like Ford where you can train in house for skill trades or other schooling? This is one of the most toughest decisions in my life. I have nothing in Michigan holding me back like Kids or a girlfriend. Money is not a problem for me to move there. The only thing whether it s the right decision for me long term. I m on 90 day probation at Ford so I m not permanent yet. So it s not like i m leaving the company with years under my belt. I just need non toxic opinions preferably from people that worked at the Fremont plant but all opinions is appreciated. :)
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Coming up on 4 months with them. So far so good. Best job I ve ever had
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Im just trying to keep it real with you strangers on the internet aren t the people to ask for this type of advice. Only you know your circumstances and situation and you need to make that decision on your own. Maybe you could try speaking with friends or family close to you.
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hvqc1o
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Got a Job offer to Work at Tesla. I m Torn whether to commit fully. Hello. I m fairly young in my mid 20 s. I live in Michigan. I recently applied for Tesla a couple months back at the Fremont CA location just to see what happens and I ve gotten a email For a zoom interview for Tesla a week ago. I thought it was going to be a Individual zoom meeting but it ended up being a group of 20+ people for the sells pitch for the job and the recruiter answered our questions. It was kinda of red flag to me. They gave the people at the zoom meeting all a job offer pending pre-employment background and drug test. I already done my Drug test so I ve kinda soft committed but I still want to keep my options open. One thing I should mention. Where I currently stay I ve just gotten a job to the Big 3 in Michigan. I work for Ford but I ve only been there for 3 weeks as of today. Ford is considered one of the best jobs to have here in my area. Ford has a Union and the UAW here is very strong. I have a good resume background for Auto manufacturing. By no means I m a engineer. I m basically a production associate. The thing is that I ve always been a passionate about Tesla. I know for a fact I will give my all to Tesla if I work there. The problem is. I will have to relocate there which is I don t mind if I didn t already have a Job and nothing to lose. But me being in Ford makes it complicated. I know in at least 3 years I can make close to over 70K a year at Ford with more upside the more time I get there. They offer in house skill trades and a lot of others opportunities and benefits. Tesla s production starting pay is at 19 a hour which is more than what I make a Ford right now but the cost of living in California evens it out. They offer 6000 dollars towards they stock and Health and Dental day 1. Tesla s is non union which is good and bad. Only thing that s in the air for me is the long term opportunities there do they offer programs like Ford where you can train in house for skill trades or other schooling? This is one of the most toughest decisions in my life. I have nothing in Michigan holding me back like Kids or a girlfriend. Money is not a problem for me to move there. The only thing whether it s the right decision for me long term. I m on 90 day probation at Ford so I m not permanent yet. So it s not like i m leaving the company with years under my belt. I just need non toxic opinions preferably from people that worked at the Fremont plant but all opinions is appreciated. :)
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You ll have to find roommates or if you have friends in that area split rent with them. Here in Cali it s one of the biggest expenses. 19 hr. is not that big of a deal considering that $15 hr is a minimum wage in lots of counties (LA Bay Area etc). So if you work 40hrs it s 760 week before taxes or 3k mo. Sometimes that s how much rent is here so you have to consider that. Also Cali has state taxes besides federal so I d say your take home will be about 2300 mo. This is not enough to comfortably live in Cali... unless you ll get another part-time job and make it work but then again all you ll do is work to pay bills. Plus I don t think you ll have advancement opportunities there.
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Im just trying to keep it real with you strangers on the internet aren t the people to ask for this type of advice. Only you know your circumstances and situation and you need to make that decision on your own. Maybe you could try speaking with friends or family close to you.
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hw1h82
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Tesla Inc. Q2 2020 Financial Results and Q& A Webcast [Tesla Q2 2020 Financial Results and Webcast](https: ir.tesla.com events event-details tesla-inc-q2-2020-financial-results-and-qa-webcast) [Webcast Link](https: edge.media-server.com mmc p ir94hfm3) - 2:30 PM PDT (5:30PM Eastern) [SAY: Submit Questions for Earnings Call](https: app.saytechnologies.com tesla) **[Q2 2020 Letter Update PDF](https: ir.tesla.com static-files f41f4254-f1cc-4929-a0b6-6623b00475a6)** Edit: Comments sorted by New
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RIP Tulsa. You fought valiantly. We will never forget you.
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It hasnt started yet right? I still got elevator music
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hw1h82
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Tesla Inc. Q2 2020 Financial Results and Q& A Webcast [Tesla Q2 2020 Financial Results and Webcast](https: ir.tesla.com events event-details tesla-inc-q2-2020-financial-results-and-qa-webcast) [Webcast Link](https: edge.media-server.com mmc p ir94hfm3) - 2:30 PM PDT (5:30PM Eastern) [SAY: Submit Questions for Earnings Call](https: app.saytechnologies.com tesla) **[Q2 2020 Letter Update PDF](https: ir.tesla.com static-files f41f4254-f1cc-4929-a0b6-6623b00475a6)** Edit: Comments sorted by New
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RIP Tulsa. You fought valiantly. We will never forget you.
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Does anyone know what the accounts receivable are? You pay for the car at delivery so it s not cars... Who owes Tesla money?
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hw1h82
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Tesla Inc. Q2 2020 Financial Results and Q& A Webcast [Tesla Q2 2020 Financial Results and Webcast](https: ir.tesla.com events event-details tesla-inc-q2-2020-financial-results-and-qa-webcast) [Webcast Link](https: edge.media-server.com mmc p ir94hfm3) - 2:30 PM PDT (5:30PM Eastern) [SAY: Submit Questions for Earnings Call](https: app.saytechnologies.com tesla) **[Q2 2020 Letter Update PDF](https: ir.tesla.com static-files f41f4254-f1cc-4929-a0b6-6623b00475a6)** Edit: Comments sorted by New
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RIP Tulsa. You fought valiantly. We will never forget you.
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Amazing work destroy the legacy manufacturers!
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hw319k
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The Tesla app said I would be able to work with the service rep to get a loaner vehicle when I arrived but when I arrived they said I should have called ahead to receive a loaner and then proceeded to make me pay to rent a car from Enterprise not fix the issue and this was all for a warranty fix. Hey guys. I m just wondering if this is standard practice. When I made the service appointment for a broken temp sensor on my Model 3 Performance I read that I could work with the service representative when I arrive to receive a loaner vehicle. When I arrived at the service center I mentioned that I would need a loaner and in the past this was totally fine and they would get a car for me. This time however the service rep said that I should have called ahead and told them because they don t have any cars available. I had a work meeting to go to within the hour. I told him that and he said that he could call Enterprise but that I would have to pay. I received a vehicle from Enterprise and then made it a little late to my meeting. They said my car would be done by 4 and that they had to order parts. So I paid $50 for a rental for them to tell me 5 hours later that they have to order the sensor and I need to come get the car. When I came to pick up the car there was another service rep there and he was very confused as to why I had paid for the rental seeing that it was a warranty so he asked the other guy and in front of me said “She didn t call ahead so she doesn t get it paid for.” I promise you guys I was super nice and even told them I m not bitching but was just confused by the what the app said and everything. Has anyone else had this happen? Is it standard practice or should I mention it to someone at the dealership? Update!! Hey guys. Thanks to the awesome Reddit community and to the awesome people at Tesla Cleveland. They called and said that what happened shouldn t have happened and they made sure we were taken care of. Like I said we usually have an awesome experience with them so I know that it was probably just a bad day for one guy and not a reflection of the whole place. ❤️
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> This time however the service rep said that I should have called ahead and told them How the fuck are you supposed to call ahead when no one at a service center ever answers the phone?
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Sorry you had this experience. I ve had them give me an enterprise loaner before but they ve never made me pay for it.
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hw319k
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The Tesla app said I would be able to work with the service rep to get a loaner vehicle when I arrived but when I arrived they said I should have called ahead to receive a loaner and then proceeded to make me pay to rent a car from Enterprise not fix the issue and this was all for a warranty fix. Hey guys. I m just wondering if this is standard practice. When I made the service appointment for a broken temp sensor on my Model 3 Performance I read that I could work with the service representative when I arrive to receive a loaner vehicle. When I arrived at the service center I mentioned that I would need a loaner and in the past this was totally fine and they would get a car for me. This time however the service rep said that I should have called ahead and told them because they don t have any cars available. I had a work meeting to go to within the hour. I told him that and he said that he could call Enterprise but that I would have to pay. I received a vehicle from Enterprise and then made it a little late to my meeting. They said my car would be done by 4 and that they had to order parts. So I paid $50 for a rental for them to tell me 5 hours later that they have to order the sensor and I need to come get the car. When I came to pick up the car there was another service rep there and he was very confused as to why I had paid for the rental seeing that it was a warranty so he asked the other guy and in front of me said “She didn t call ahead so she doesn t get it paid for.” I promise you guys I was super nice and even told them I m not bitching but was just confused by the what the app said and everything. Has anyone else had this happen? Is it standard practice or should I mention it to someone at the dealership? Update!! Hey guys. Thanks to the awesome Reddit community and to the awesome people at Tesla Cleveland. They called and said that what happened shouldn t have happened and they made sure we were taken care of. Like I said we usually have an awesome experience with them so I know that it was probably just a bad day for one guy and not a reflection of the whole place. ❤️
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> This time however the service rep said that I should have called ahead and told them How the fuck are you supposed to call ahead when no one at a service center ever answers the phone?
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The loaner thing is typical this is the first I ve heard of the pay for rental. Usually now I just get denied for everything but Uber credits. I live 1.5 hours from the nearest service center.
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hw319k
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The Tesla app said I would be able to work with the service rep to get a loaner vehicle when I arrived but when I arrived they said I should have called ahead to receive a loaner and then proceeded to make me pay to rent a car from Enterprise not fix the issue and this was all for a warranty fix. Hey guys. I m just wondering if this is standard practice. When I made the service appointment for a broken temp sensor on my Model 3 Performance I read that I could work with the service representative when I arrive to receive a loaner vehicle. When I arrived at the service center I mentioned that I would need a loaner and in the past this was totally fine and they would get a car for me. This time however the service rep said that I should have called ahead and told them because they don t have any cars available. I had a work meeting to go to within the hour. I told him that and he said that he could call Enterprise but that I would have to pay. I received a vehicle from Enterprise and then made it a little late to my meeting. They said my car would be done by 4 and that they had to order parts. So I paid $50 for a rental for them to tell me 5 hours later that they have to order the sensor and I need to come get the car. When I came to pick up the car there was another service rep there and he was very confused as to why I had paid for the rental seeing that it was a warranty so he asked the other guy and in front of me said “She didn t call ahead so she doesn t get it paid for.” I promise you guys I was super nice and even told them I m not bitching but was just confused by the what the app said and everything. Has anyone else had this happen? Is it standard practice or should I mention it to someone at the dealership? Update!! Hey guys. Thanks to the awesome Reddit community and to the awesome people at Tesla Cleveland. They called and said that what happened shouldn t have happened and they made sure we were taken care of. Like I said we usually have an awesome experience with them so I know that it was probably just a bad day for one guy and not a reflection of the whole place. ❤️
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> This time however the service rep said that I should have called ahead and told them How the fuck are you supposed to call ahead when no one at a service center ever answers the phone?
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I d walk into the SC and ask for a manager and talk through it as adults. Good luck!
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hw54au
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Elon said on earnings call that a Compact Tesla is likely to happen I m surprised no one mentioned that when asked what new products Tesla had in the pipeline Elon mentioned a it d be reasonable to assume we ll build a compact vehicle. [https: youtu.be txA3-yhMGWA?t=919](https: youtu.be txA3-yhMGWA?t=919) I know many folks are hungry for something like a hot hatch.
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Means 4+ years away.
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S 3 X Y T H 1 N G
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hw54au
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Elon said on earnings call that a Compact Tesla is likely to happen I m surprised no one mentioned that when asked what new products Tesla had in the pipeline Elon mentioned a it d be reasonable to assume we ll build a compact vehicle. [https: youtu.be txA3-yhMGWA?t=919](https: youtu.be txA3-yhMGWA?t=919) I know many folks are hungry for something like a hot hatch.
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Didn t Elon say many moons ago he wants Tesla s in the $20k range? A compact Tesla is the way to do it. Makes sense other manufacturers are leaving the car game and Tesla is there to fill a void with some awesome technology.
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I ll add that he said (paraphrasing) That they will not announce new products (on the call) but it s probably likely that they ll do the common sense products in the future . Compact would be very likely considering that Elon also mentioned on this call that their products aren t affordable enough in his opinion. I believe it was mentioned after the cybertruck unveiling that there aren t any product reveals in the pipeline after CT. I m sure there is enough to work on with the Semi CT Roadster ramp for the time being.
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