Keskustelu:Sveitsin ilmavoimat

message: This Page about the Swiss air Force is incopleted and not up to date. Many informations are missing.
 Not alll aircrafttypes are listed  numbers of aircrafts is  sometimes not correct.

message: i have here a more advanced list of the former aircraft. would be great if someone can translate it. Thanks.
thread_title:  new list of old aircrafts 

message: Kuva          	Nimi                     	Alkuperä        	Tyyppi                           	Versiot             	Lkm                                       	Enteredservice	WFU                                                                                	Huom
              	Aérospatiale Alouette II 	                	observation, rescue & liaison    	II                  	30                                        	1958          	1992                                                                               	10 bought in 1958, and 20 in 1964.
70px          	Aérospatiale Alouette III	                	transport & trainer              	III                 	84                                        	1964          	2010                                                                               	14 lost in accidents. Replaced by EC635.
              	BAe Hawk                 	                	trainer                          	T.66                	19                                        	1987          	2002                                                                               	One lost in 1990. 18 sold to the Finnish Defence Forces in 2008.
              	Beechcraft Expeditor     	                	transport                        	C18S,C-45F          	3                                         	1948          	1969                                                                               	
              	Beechcraft Twin Bonanza  	                	transport                        	E50                 	3                                         	1957          	1989                                                                               	
              	BFW M.18                 	                	transport                        	18C & 18D           	4                                         	1929          	1954                                                                               	1 18C, 3 18D.
              	Bücker Jungmann          	                	trainer                          	Bü 131              	94                                        	1936          	1971                                                                               	Two seat biplane. 10 impressed from aero clubs.
              	Bücker Jungmeister       	                	trainer                          	Bü 133              	52                                        	1937          	1968                                                                               	Acrobatics/air combat training single seat biplane.
              	Comte AC-1               	                	fighter                          	AC-1                	1                                         	1928          	1939                                                                               	
              	Comte AC-4               	                	liaison                          	AC-4                	1                                         	1931          	1938                                                                               	
              	Comte AC-11-V            	                	liaison                          	AC-11-V             	1                                         	1943          	1945                                                                               	
              	Dassault Falcon 50       	                	VIP transport                    	50                  	1                                         	1996          	2013                                                                               	Replaced by Dassault Falcon 900EX.
70px          	Dassault Mirage III      	rowspan=5       	Koelentotoiminta                 	IIIC                	1                                         	1962          	1999                                                                               	
70px          	Dassault Mirage III      	reconnaissance  	IIIRS                            	18                  	1964                                      	2003          	                                                                                   	
70px          	Dassault Mirage III      	fighter         	IIIS                             	36                  	1964                                      	1999          	Swiss IIIC, Upgraded by SF Emmen in 1988.Financial scandal reduced orders from 100.	
70px          	Dassault Mirage III      	advanced trainer	IIIBS                            	4                   	1964                                      	2003          	2 lost in accidents.                                                               	
70px          	Dassault Mirage III      	advanced trainer	IIIDS                            	2                   	1983                                      	2003          	Replaced crashed Mirage IIIBS.                                                     	
              	de Havilland Mosquito    	                	bomber                           	PR.4 & FB.6         	2                                         	1944          	1954                                                                               	1 used by Swissair for pilot training. was engine testbed for EFW N-20.
rowspan=4     	                         	                	                                 	                    	                                          	              	                                                                                   	
fighter-bomber	F.6                      	178             	1949                             	1990                	Includes 3 from spare parts.              	              	                                                                                   	
night fighter 	NF.10                    	1               	1958                             	1961                	Testing only.                             	              	                                                                                   	
trainer       	T.55                     	39              	1953                             	1990                	Two seat trainer, 30 built in Switzerland.	              	                                                                                   	
rowspan=4     	                         	                	                                 	                    	                                          	              	                                                                                   	
reconnaissance	FB.50R                   	24              	1956                             	1975                	                                          	              	                                                                                   	
fighter-bomber	FB.54                    	100             	1956                             	1983                	                                          	              	                                                                                   	
reconnaissance	FB.54R                   	8               	1980                             	1987                	                                          	              	                                                                                   	
              	Dewoitine D.26           	                	Koulukone                        	D.26                	11                                        	1931          	1948                                                                               	
              	Dewoitine D.27           	                	fighter                          	D.27                	66                                        	1928          	1944                                                                               	
70px          	Dornier Do 27            	                	aerial spraying                  	Do 27H2             	7                                         	1958          	2005                                                                               	
70px          	N-20.2 Arbalète          	                	Koelentotoiminta                 	N-20.2              	1                                         	1949          	1952                                                                               	First Swiss designed jet fighter, only 1 test aircraft built.
70px          	N-20.10 Aiguillon        	                	fighter                          	N-20.10             	1                                         	1949          	1952                                                                               	First Swiss designed jet fighter, not in serie produced.
              	EKW C-35                 	                	reconnaissance                   	C-35 & 35-1         	90                                        	1937          	1954                                                                               	8 built from spares.
              	EKW C-36                 	                	reconnaissance                   	C-3603              	160                                       	1942          	1987                                                                               	20 converted to target tugs, 40 re-engined with turboprop.
              	Eurocopter Dauphin 2     	                	VIP transport                    	SA.365N             	1                                         	2005          	2009                                                                               	Used by the state government
              	Fairey Fox               	                	reconnaissance                   	VI.R                	2                                         	1937          	1945                                                                               	
              	FFA P-16                 	                	ground attack                    	P-16.04 & P-16 Mk.II	5                                         	1955          	1960                                                                               	Prototypes. Order for 100 cancelled after  crash. 2 returned to FFA.
              	Fieseler Fi 156          	                	transport, observation& ambulance	C-3 Trop            	5                                         	1940          	1963                                                                               	Number includes 1 impressed.
              	[Focke-Wulf Fw 44        	                	Koulukone                        	Fw 44F              	1                                         	1945          	1953                                                                               	
70px          	Fokker C.V               	                	reconnaissance                   	D & E               	64                                        	1927          	1954                                                                               	
              	Häfeli DH-1              	                	reconnaissance                   	DH-1                	6                                         	1916          	1919                                                                               	
              	Häfeli DH-3              	                	reconnaissance                   	DH-3                	109                                       	1917          	1939                                                                               	
              	Häfeli DH-5              	                	reconnaissance                   	DH-5                	80                                        	1922          	1940                                                                               	
              	Hanriot HD-1             	                	fighter                          	HD-1                	16                                        	1921          	1930                                                                               	
rowspan=3     	                         	                	                                 	                    	                                          	              	                                                                                   	
fighter-bomber	F.58A                    	52              	1971                             	1994                	                                          	              	                                                                                   	
Koulukone     	T.68                     	8               	1974                             	1994                	                                          	              	                                                                                   	
              	Hiller UH-12             	                	battlefield observation          	B                   	3                                         	1952          	1962                                                                               	
70px          	Junkers Ju 52/3m         	                	transport                        	Versions            	3                                         	1939          	1981                                                                               	Since 1983 museum aircraft at Dübendorf.
              	Learjet 35               	                	VIP transport                    	A                   	2                                         	1987          	2006                                                                               	
              	Messerschmitt Bf 108     	                	liaison                          	B                   	18                                        	1938          	1959                                                                               	
rowspan=4     	                         	                	                                 	                    	                                          	              	                                                                                   	
fighter       	E-1 & E-3                	89              	1939                             	1948                	                                          	              	                                                                                   	
fighter       	F-4/Z                    	2               	1942                             	1947                	                                          	              	                                                                                   	
fighter       	G-6 & G-14               	16              	1944                             	1947                	                                          	              	                                                                                   	
              	Morane-Saulnier G        	                	trainer                          	G or H              	1                                         	1914          	1919                                                                               	
              	Morane-Saulnier MS.229   	                	trainer                          	Et2                 	2                                         	1931          	1941                                                                               	
rowspan=5     	                         	                	                                 	                    	                                          	              	                                                                                   	
fighter       	3800                     	82              	1940                             	1954                	                                          	              	                                                                                   	
fighter       	3801                     	224             	1941                             	1959                	                                          	              	                                                                                   	
fighter       	3802                     	13              	1946                             	1956                	                                          	              	                                                                                   	
fighter       	3803                     	1               	1947                             	1956                	                                          	              	                                                                                   	
              	Nardi FN.315             	                	trainer                          	FN.315              	2                                         	1944          	1948                                                                               	
              	Nieuport 23              	                	trainer                          	23 C.1              	5                                         	1917          	1921                                                                               	
              	Nieuport 28              	                	fighter                          	28 C.1              	15                                        	1918          	1930                                                                               	
              	Nord Norécrin            	                	liaison                          	1201                	1                                         	1948          	1952                                                                               	
              	Nord Norvigie            	                	liaison                          	NC.850              	1                                         	1949          	1950                                                                               	Tested and returned to Nord
rowspan=4     	                         	                	                                 	                    	                                          	              	                                                                                   	
fighter       	P-51D                    	113             	1948                             	1957                	                                          	              	                                                                                   	
fighter       	TP-51D                   	2               	1948                             	1957                	                                          	              	                                                                                   	
fighter       	F-6                      	15              	1948                             	1957                	                                          	              	                                                                                   	
70px          	North American Harvard   	                	trainer                          	Mk.IIB              	40                                        	1948          	1968                                                                               	Surplus ex-RCAF (Canadian built).
              	Pilatus P-2              	                	trainer                          	P-2 05 & 06         	55                                        	1945          	1981                                                                               	
              	Pilatus P-3              	                	trainers                         	P-3                 	73                                        	1956          	1995                                                                               	Number includes prototype.
              	Piper Super Cub          	                	observation                      	PA-18-150           	6                                         	1948          	1975                                                                               	
              	Potez 25                 	                	reconnaissance                   	L-25 A.2            	17                                        	1927          	1940                                                                               	
              	Potez 63                 	                	bomber                           	630 & 633           	2                                         	1938          	1944                                                                               	
              	Rockwell Grand Commander 	                	mapping                          	680FL               	1                                         	1976          	1993                                                                               	Civil registered for Federal Office of Topography.
              	Siebel Si 204            	                	transport                        	D-1                 	1                                         	1945          	1955                                                                               	Interned.
              	Stinson Sentinel         	                	liaison                          	L-5                 	1                                         	1944          	1945                                                                               	
              	Sud-Ouest Djinn          	                	trainer                          	S.O.1221            	4                                         	1958          	1964                                                                               	Returned to manufacturer following rotor problems.
              	Weber-Landolf-Münch WLM-1	                	glider                           	WLM-1               	2                                         	1951          	unk                                                                                	
FFA P-16 (keskustelu) 15. syyskuuta 2014 kello 21.11 (EEST)
thread_title:  Previous aircraft

message: Can somebody translate this and add it to the swiss air force page?
===Air policing===
Air policing is one of the main peacetime activities of the Swiss Air Force. The Air Force distinguishes two classes of mission, live mission (observation, Identifiication) and hot mission (intervention).
Year	Live Mission	Hot Mission	Notes
2006	342         	22         	http://www.vtg.admin.ch/internet/vtg/de/home/themen/einsaetze/jahres-einsatzbilanzen/einsatzbilanz0.html
2007	295         	23         	http://www.vtg.admin.ch/internet/vtg/de/home/themen/einsaetze/jahres-einsatzbilanzen/jahresbilanz2007.html
2008	308         	23         	
2009	294         	9          	
2010	246         	22         	
2011	350         	12         	
2012	207         	10         	
2013	202         	9          	
2014	277         	15         	
2015	276         	37         	
http://www.vtg.admin.ch/internet/vtg/de/home/themen/einsaetze/einsatzbilanz2014.htmlhttp://www.vtg.admin.ch/internet/vtg/de/home/themen/einsaetze/jahres-einsatzbilanzen/jahresbilanz2011.htmlhttp://www.vtg.admin.ch/internet/vtg/de/home/themen/einsaetze/jahres-einsatzbilanzen/jahresbilanz2009.html
FFA P-16 (keskustelu) 21. joulukuuta 2015 kello 17.45 (EET)
thread_title:  Air Policing 

message: Air policing is one of the main peacetime activities of the Swiss Air Force. The Air Force distinguishes two classes of mission, live mission (observation, Identifiication) and hot mission (intervention).
Year	Live Mission	Hot Mission	Notes
2006	342         	22         	http://www.vtg.admin.ch/internet/vtg/de/home/themen/einsaetze/jahres-einsatzbilanzen/einsatzbilanz0.html
2007	295         	23         	http://www.vtg.admin.ch/internet/vtg/de/home/themen/einsaetze/jahres-einsatzbilanzen/jahresbilanz2007.html
2008	308         	23         	
2009	294         	9          	
2010	246         	22         	
2011	350         	12         	
2012	207         	10         	
2013	202         	9          	
2014	277         	15         	
2015	276         	37         	
http://www.vtg.admin.ch/internet/vtg/de/home/themen/einsaetze/einsatzbilanz2014.htmlhttp://www.vtg.admin.ch/internet/vtg/de/home/themen/einsaetze/jahres-einsatzbilanzen/jahresbilanz2011.htmlhttp://www.vtg.admin.ch/internet/vtg/de/home/themen/einsaetze/jahres-einsatzbilanzen/jahresbilanz2009.html
FFA P-16 (keskustelu) 21. joulukuuta 2015 kello 17.45 (EET)
thread_title: Air policing