Discusión:Tokumei Sentai Go-Busters

message: Aunque la versión actual del artículo es técnicamente correcta, ya que incluye las tres nomenclaturas, relega a un segundo plano a la nomenclatura oficial, como puede verse en esta captura de pantalla de la serie, y a la nomenclatura ampliamente más popular, en favor de la nomenclatura utilizada en merchandising licenciado aunque producido por terceros.
Así que... ¿qué aporta esta revisión frente a esta otra, para que el usuario User:Ryulong la revierta y pida la protección del artículo? 77.209.76.223 (discusión) 22:39 24 jun 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: (Lo siento, usando inglés) My block at the English Wikipedia has nothing to do with this page. "Buddyroid" is not official. "Buddyloid" is. "Buddy Roid" was only used once on the TV. "Buddyloid" was used here until this.--Ryulong (discusión) 23:25 24 jun 2015 (UTC)

text: Buddyloid, Buddyloid, Buddyloid. Buddy Roid. Never "Buddyroid" except by fans.--Ryulong (discusión) 23:30 24 jun 2015 (UTC)

text: "Buddy Roid" only appeared once in all of the TV show. "Buddyloid" appeared multiple times in Bandai merchandise, which is not a third party. Bandai owns the trademark with Toei. Therefore, Toei only used "Buddy Roid" once and every time after that told others to use "Buddyloid", as its Bandai and Columbia Records using "Buddyloid". Frequency is more important than "this showed up first in the TV show".—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 13:59 25 jun 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The point is that this article is about the TV show and only about the TV show, and merchandising is not the TV show. Terms that appear on toys, movies, music albums and any other merchandising are irrelevant if they do not appear directly on the TV show, and if something appears on both sources and the sources do not match, which is the case, the TV show has preference. The term "Buddyloid" should appear, but only as a footnote saying that it's merchandising where they use that name.--Manbemel (discusión) 15:14 25 jun 2015 (UTC)

text: El punto es que este artículo es sobre la serie de televisión y solo sobre la serie de televisión, y el merchandising no es la serie de televisión. Los términos que aparecen en juguetes, películas, álbumes musicales y cualquier otro merchandising son irrelevantes, porque no aparecen directamente en la serie de televisión, y si algo aparece en ambas fuentes y estas no coinciden, lo que es el caso, la serie de televisión tiene la preferencia. El término "Buddyloid" debe aparecer, pero solo como nota al pie diciendo que es el merchandising donde usan ese nombre.--Manbemel (discusión) 15:14 25 jun 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The merchandising shows what the spellings are. It's all owned by the same company. And it was only one time in the show in the background. Why does that prove anything?—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 21:59 25 jun 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Please, do not change back the article to the form with L. You have already been explained why it should be with "R", and you have no consensus to use the "L" form. If you change the article back to "L", I'm very sorry but I'll have to call the administrators for edit warring. And I wouldn't like doing that.--Manbemel (discusión) 09:45 26 jun 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It's just you and me arguing over it. That's not a consensus in your favor. You even originally wrote it as "Buddyloid".—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 04:59 28 jun 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It's you, me and at least two ip users whose opinion also counts and who are at this moment unable to participate because the article is blocked to anonymous users right now. That makes 3 against 1, so it's clear where the consensus is. You are the only one defending "Buddyloid". As for what I wrote before, as I said first, I simply translated the article from English Wikipedia, and that doesn't mean I support that word.--Manbemel (discusión) 13:08 28 jun 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: This discussion page isn't protected and those IP users are all probably the same person. "Buddyloid" is the correct translation as is obvious from it appearing on everything else. There was only one scene where "Buddy Roid" was seen in the TV program and then it's never seen again but everything else officially licensed by Toei has "BUDDYLOID" on it.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 20:22 28 jun 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right it's not protected (my mistake), but that doesn't change the fact that the ip users tried to introduce the "R" form several times before you reverted them back to "L", it's on the history of the article and anyone can see it, so the consensus is still on the form with "R". And I forgot to count the ip user who introduced the change to "R" back in january and whose opinion also counts. That would make 4 against 1. And I tell you again. One single scene of the show is more valuable than 200 appearances elsewhere, because this article is about the TV show. It's not about the franchise. It's not about the toys. It's only about the TV show. Therefore, it's mandatory that the article discusses only what can be seen on the TV show, and "Buddyloid" does not appear on the TV show. Remember also that all the times that the word is used, it is used in sections discussing the plot and characters, therefore it doesn't make sense to use words that are not explicitly used on the plot of the TV show. Unless you can find a scene from the TV show where the characters names are spelled as "Buddyloid", the only thing which would prove your point, the article must stay as it is, with the "R" form.--Manbemel (discusión) 21:44 28 jun 2015 (UTC)

text: P.S. Asuming good faith is also mandatory in Spanish Wikipedia. You have no proof to say that all the ips are the same person, and without that proof, their opinions have the same value than yours or mine. We are no better or have any more rights than any anonymous user just because we are registered. That's a rule of Wikipedia.--Manbemel (discusión) 21:49 28 jun 2015 (UTC)

text: Besides, even if all the ips were the same person, which I doubt (only 2 ips were on the same ip range, and I already counted them as 1), it would still be 2 (the user and me) against 1 in favour of the form with "R".--Manbemel (discusión) 21:55 28 jun 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Buddyloid/Buddyroid/Buddy Roid